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On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 at 11:39 PM, Tevita Langi <tlan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Malie lahi e ki'i tama fieme'a, kae toe malie ange hono iku'anga,,,,seukeeee!!!!!!! Kau hu atu au he kau me'a koee ne tomu'a fakaafe'i. Mo'oni pe fieme'a 'a e ki'i tama ne too ki loto ki he katoanga. Ka 'oku toe mahulu ange fieme'a ia 'a e kau me'a koee ne tomu'a fakaafe'i. Pe ke si'i mai pe aa ki he kau talafekauu, pe poaki mai pe aa......hala 'ata'ataa ha me'i toka'i e taha e fakaafee....ngana pe kapau na ko ha fakaafe ha'anau fa'eetangata....ka ko e fu'u Royal Invitation ee.....me'a fakamamahi mo'oni.....pea tuha honau tauteaa mo e fiememe'a.....kae hu ki he katoangaa he matapaa he koia pe 'oku tufa ai 'a e kofu katoanga....ko e ha teu kofu'akii....ta'ata'a pe 'o Sisu.....ngali 'i loto toafa au ee....'ofa atutlangi
2017-10-13 16:12 GMT+13:00 Maafu Palu <maafu...@gmail.com>:
Malie hono fakatokanga'i mai 'e Saia 'ae lea "pongipongi" hono ngaue'aki he talanoa ni. He ko hono lea 'i loto'aa ko e "fakafeta'i" pe. Na'a mo 'etau kau ki he katoanga ka ko e 'ofa 'ata'ataa pe 'ae Tu'i.
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On 12 Oct 2017 10:19 pm, "Siosaia Sisitoutai" <sa...@fwc.to> wrote:
Tulou atu. Ka na'e ta'ofi tu'u au 'e he ki'i toko taha ko eni, 'i he fifili pe na'e anga fefe 'ene hao ki loto? Kae mahino mai ko 'ene 'i he katoanga, he na'e 'i ai 'a e toko taha na'a ne fakaafe'i ia ki ai; pea ko e me'a mahu'inga ia. He taumaiaa ne puli 'i he toko taha na'a ne fai e fakaafee, ko e ki'i motu'a na'a ne fakaafe'i mai, na'e 'ikai pee 'i ai si'ano teunga katoanga ia 'o'ona. Kae he'ilo, mahalo ne 'i ai pee hano teunga kae 'ikai tokanga ia ke tui mai ki he fu'u katoanga ko eni.Hangee kiate au 'oku 'i ai pee 'a e fo'i fakakaukau faka-Tonga ne feinga 'a Molitoni ke fakafelave'i ki ai 'a e talanoa ko eni; pea 'oku 'ata mai 'a e fakakaukau ko ia 'i he "...kuo 'osi teu 'eku pongipongi..." (v.4). Mahino pee ko e katoanga mali faka-Tonga eni 'oku talanoa ki ai 'a Molitoni/Matiu. Pea ko ia ai pee 'oku talanoa ki ai 'a e "'Ei Mā'oni'oni, Tu'i Toputapu, tali 'emau pongipongi 'oku 'atu ee...". 'A ia ko e katoanga mo e Tu'i, pea 'oku 'ikai ko ha me'a si'i.
Tau sio mai ha potalanoa 'a e ki'i motu'a ko eni mo e toko taha na'a na lue mai he hala, ko e fononga ke katoanga mo e Tu'i.. Pehee atu 'e he tama na'a na lue, "toko, 'ikai te ke ta'ovala mai? he ko 'eta lu e eni ki he katoanga ta'ane...". Tali atu 'e he tama 'ikai teunga katoanga, "Ahh, sai pee he ko e mālō mo kitaua ke tali 'a e fakaafe ko eni. Pea taha, kuo ma'u kotoa 'e he Tu'i ia 'a e ngaahi mafai ne totonu ke vahevahe mai kiate kitautolu. Ne totonu ke nofo pee ia ko e fakalangilangi, kae 'omi e mafai mo'o kitaua. Tuku atu hoku teunga 'a'aku ki ha me'a 'oku lau ai hoku lahi...".Kainga, 'oku 'ikai ha to e lea fe'unga ia mo e natula 'o e tangata ko eni, ka ko e fieme'a pee. Ko e tangata eni 'oku ha'u ki he katoanga mo e fa'ahinga loto 'oku 'ikai lelei. Mālō pee 'a e tali 'a e fakaafe, ka 'oku hanga 'e he'ene fakafotungaa 'o fakahaa'i hono 'ulungaanga fieme'a. 'Ikai ke fai atu 'ene fieme'a ki ha taha kehe, ka ko e fieme'a ki he Tu'i. Kapau kuo a'u ki he Tu'i 'ene fieme'a, pea taa ko e toko taha anga malohi mo kia-kekeva ia. Taa ne'ine'i ke tu'utu'uni 'e he Tu'i ke "...ha'i hono va'e mo hono nima, 'o lii ia ki he po'uli 'o tu'a'aa..."..'Io, ne lava lelei pee e fatongia ia 'a e toko taha na'a ne fai e fakaafe. He na'a ne foli he vao kehekehe (manga'i hala) ko e kumi e laumalie hee (kovi) mo e lelei, pea fakaafe'i kinautolu ki he katoanga ko eni. 'Ikai toe kehe ia mei he ngāue 'a e kau 'Evangelio, 'oku fai pee si'enau ngāue ki he lelei mo e kovi fakatou'osi. Tala ai pe ki he loto fefeka mo e fieme'a mo e afungi; a'u atu ki he politikale mo e temo etc. Ko e tala tavale ai pee ia, he na'e tala ki he "...kakai kotoa pee na'a nau 'ilo ki ai...".. 'Oku 'ikai to e kau e 'Evangelio ia 'i he filifili, he ko e fili ke nofo he katoanga mo e lii ki he po'uli 'o tu'a'aa, ko e me'a pee ia 'a e Tu'i; ko e toko taha ia ha'ana e katoanga.
Fakamolemole atu he fakanafala. Ko e koloa'ia pee he ki'i tama fieme'aaa.
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Kapau te u toe ki'i hokohoko atu pe heni he Kosipeli, 'ia Matiu 22:1-14. Tau hu atu ki he talanoa 'i he tu'unga 'o e tangata na'e ha'u ta'ema'u kofu katoanga:1) Na'a ne ma'u 'a e fakaafe 'a e tu'i ki he katoanga kuo teu, 'o tala ke ha'u ki he katoanga.2) Na'a ne tali 'a e fakaafe 'a e tu'i, 'o ne 'alu atu mo ia foki ki he katoanga.3) Na'e 'ikai te ne 'ai 'a e naunau 'o e hu ki he Katoanga, 'a ia ko e 'ai 'a e kofu katoanga.'Oku mahino 'i he 'a'ahi 'a e Tu'i, na'e tufa ta'etotongi pe mo e kofu katoanga ki he kakai na'e tali 'a e ui. 'Oku tau 'ilo foki na'e 'ikai tufa 'ae kofu katoanga 'e he kau tamaio'eiki nae' fai 'a e fakaafe 'a e Tu'i, he ko kinautolu ko e talaki pe 'o e katoanga. 'Oku mahino leva, ta ko e kofu katoanga na'e ma'u pe ia 'i he matapa ki he katoanga. Ko ia, 'oku pau ko e tangata ni, na'e 'ikai te ne fou he matapa, ke ne ma'u ai 'a e kofu katoanga, 'o hu'aki.
'Oku 'asi mei he talanoa ni, 'a e kehekehe 'o e matamata lotu pe, mo e lotu mo'oni. Ko e tangata ni, 'oku ne fakasipinga kiate kitautolu 'a e matamata lotu pe 'o fai hono me'a kotoa 'oe lotu.. 'Oku lau ki ai 'a e Himi 433 'o pehe, "Ko futu 'eku lotu 'o hu mo punou, lotu tu'asino pe 'o fai hono me'a kotoa, 'ikai 'ilo 'oku toe 'a hono fu'u mata'ikoloa".
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Fanongo ki he talanoa ‘o e Ekisoto 32 ki he hake ‘a Mosese ki Sainai ke fakafetaulaki ki he ‘Otua pea ‘ikai kei fa’a tatali ‘a ‘Isileli fakataha mo ‘enau hoha’a mo teteki he hange ‘oku li’aki kinautolu. Nau tafoki hake ‘o fakatenge ‘a ‘Elone ke nau ngaohi ‘a e kafi koula tatau mo ha ‘otua ‘Isipite ke ‘uta ki ai ‘enau nofo pea nau ongo’i malu ai foki he mahino ‘oku ‘iai e ‘otua ‘oku nau takaua. Ongo’i malu he feohi moe ‘otua mate. Moe ‘ikai ha toe manatu ki he seini na’e vete he matani kolo ‘o ‘Isipite pea fakauku hono ngaahi saliote tau he moana loloto, ‘ikai pe. Tukukehe ange ia, kae fefe ‘enau ongo’i manavahe mo teteki lolotonga ‘oku nau ‘apitanga he tafa mo’ungaa, ko e Topuva’e ia ‘o Sihova. Hanga ‘e he ‘ulungaanga ‘o e Ta’e ‘Apasia ‘o fakatekiteki ‘a Ta’e Hounga pea na hifo atu aipe he hifonga ‘o lusa.
Talanoa ko ia ‘ia Matiu 22 ki he tangata na’e hu ta’e teunga ki he katoanga pea fekau ke puke ‘o li ki tu’a ‘aa, teu ala faka’uhinga hono teunga katoanga ‘aki ‘a e ‘uhinga ‘a Molitoni he 418 konga ki mui ‘o e veesi 1; …… “He me’a ia teu kofu’aki, ‘O ka fakamaau ‘a mamani, He toki kofu kuo ma’a, ‘O puli ai ‘a e angahala” ta koe teunga katoanga ‘oku ‘ikai sio ki he kofu (wedding garment) ka ‘oku sio ki he ‘ulungaanga (attitude). ‘Oku toki mo’oni heni e lea Tonga, ko e “Kato mo hono Anga” ‘Oku tala ‘a e mahu’inga ‘o e Kato mei he naunau’ia hono Anga, ‘a e Faka’apa’apa, ‘a e Fiefia mo e Melino, Faka-Malo’ia mo Fakahounga pea ko e toki Katoanga lelei mo’oni ia. Ka ‘oku mahino ko e tangata na’e ‘ai pe hono teunga, ka na’a ne kofu’aki ‘a e ‘ulungaanga hala. Na’e’ ikai ke fiefia pea na’e fakatupu kee pea na’e kapekape pea fakahoha’a foki ki he kau fakaafe kehe. Mahino na’e toutou feinga e kau fakanofonofo ke ta’ota’ofi ia, ka na’a ne ta’e toka’i pea iku fakamaau ia ‘o ‘ilo ‘oku ne tui e Anga-‘uli pea ‘oku ‘ikai fe’unga ia mo Katoanga.
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Fanongo ki he talanoa ‘o e Ekisoto 32 ki he hake ‘a Mosese ki Sainai ke fakafetaulaki ki he ‘Otua pea ‘ikai kei fa’a tatali ‘a ‘Isileli fakataha mo ‘enau hoha’a mo teteki he hange ‘oku li’aki kinautolu. Nau tafoki hake ‘o fakatenge ‘a ‘Elone ke nau ngaohi ‘a e kafi koula tatau mo ha ‘otua ‘Isipite ke ‘uta ki ai ‘enau nofo pea nau ongo’i malu ai foki he mahino ‘oku ‘iai e ‘otua ‘oku nau takaua. Ongo’i malu he feohi moe ‘otua mate.. Moe ‘ikai ha toe manatu ki he seini na’e vete he matani kolo ‘o ‘Isipite pea fakauku hono ngaahi saliote tau he moana loloto, ‘ikai pe. Tukukehe ange ia, kae fefe ‘enau ongo’i manavahe mo teteki lolotonga ‘oku nau ‘apitanga he tafa mo’ungaa, ko e Topuva’e ia ‘o Sihova. Hanga ‘e he ‘ulungaanga ‘o e Ta’e ‘Apasia ‘o fakatekiteki ‘a Ta’e Hounga pea na hifo atu aipe he hifonga ‘o lusa.
'Oku mahino 'i he 'a'ahi 'a e Tu'i, na'e tufa ta'etotongi pe mo e kofu katoanga ki he kakai na'e tali 'a e ui. 'Oku tau 'ilo foki na'e 'ikai tufa 'ae kofu katoanga 'e he kau tamaio'eiki nae' fai 'a e fakaafe 'a e Tu'i, he ko kinautolu ko e talaki pe 'o e katoanga. 'Oku mahino leva, ta ko e kofu katoanga na'e ma'u pe ia 'i he matapa ki he katoanga. Ko ia, 'oku pau ko e tangata ni, na'e 'ikai te ne fou he matapa, ke ne ma'u ai 'a e kofu katoanga, 'o hu'aki..
PEA tali ‘e Sīsū, ‘o ne toe lea kiate kinautolu ‘i ha ngaahi fakatātā, ‘o pehē, 2Kuo tatau ‘a e Pule‘anga ‘o Hēvani pea mo ha tangata, ko e tu‘i, ‘a ia na‘a ne fai ‘a e ta‘ane ‘o hono ‘alo; 3pea ne fekau atu ‘ene kau tamaio‘eiki ke ui ‘a e kakai kuo tala ki ai ‘a e kātoanga, ka na‘e ‘ikai te nau fie ha‘u. 4Pea ne toe fekau atu ha kau tamaio‘eiki kehe, ‘o ne pehē, Fakahā kiate kinautolu na‘e tala, Ko eni, kuo u ‘osi teu ‘eku pongipongi: Kuo tāmate‘i ‘eku fanga pulu, mo ‘eku fanga manu tali ‘eiki, pea kuo napangapangamālie kotoa pē. Mou omi ki he ta‘ane. 5Kā ka fakava‘iva‘inga ‘aki ia ‘ekinautolu, ‘o nau ‘alu, ko e taha ki he‘ene ngoue, ko e taha ki he‘ene fai fakatau; 6pea ko e toe, na‘a nau puke ‘ene kau tamaio‘eiki, ‘o nau pā‘usi‘i mo tāmate‘i. 7Pea houhau ai ‘a e Tu‘i, ‘o ne fekau atu ‘ene ngaahi kongakau, ‘o ne faka‘auha ‘a e kau fakapō ko iā, ‘o tutu ‘enau kolo.. 8Pea toki folofola ia ki he‘ene kau tamaio‘eiki, Ko e ta‘ane kuo teu, ka ko kinautolu na‘e tala ki ai, tā na‘e ‘ikai te nau taau. 9Ko ia, mou ō ki he ngaahi manga‘i hala, pea ‘ilonga ha kakai te mou ‘ilo ai, tala ke nau ha‘u ki he kātoanga. 10Pea ‘alu atu ‘a e kau tamaio‘eiki ko iā ki he ngaahi hala, ‘o nau tānaki ‘a e kakai kotoa pē na‘a nau ‘ilo ki ai, ‘a e kovi mo e lelei fakatou‘osi, pea na‘e ma‘opo ‘a e kātoanga.
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Vakaia ‘a ‘Ekisoto pe koeha ‘a e pehe tene fakaholo mai hono Fotunga ke ‘alu mo hono kakai, ka tene toki to‘o hono nimá, pea te tau mamata ki hoku tu‘á: Ka ko hoku matá, ʻe ‘ikai te tau sio ki ai” Koeha e pehe ke tau ‘alu mo hono Fotunga neongo ‘e ‘ikai lava ke tau sio ki ai?
Ko e kamata’anga eni ‘o e ‘iloa ‘a Sihova ko e “Fakatavanuku” He’ikai ke tau mamata ki hoo fotunga ka ‘oku fakamatala mai ‘e hono Takafalu ‘a e Toho’anga Lika ‘oku ‘uta ki ai ‘etau folau. Kuo ne situ’a mei he kovi kotoa ‘a hono kakai pea ke tau muimui atu hono tu’aa ka ne tofikulu atu e faingata’a, ka tau ma’u malolo ai.
Me’apango na’e ‘ikai ke mo’ui fuoloa ‘a Mosese ke sio tonu he taimi ne fakahake atu ai ‘etau folau he Taulanga ‘o Kalevale, ko e Tama ena kuo tafoki ‘o hanga mai, ‘oku ne tu’u o tali ke no’o e maea hotau vaka. Pea kuo tau mamata kotoa ki he Fotunga ne fufuu he ‘aneafi, ko ena kuo foekina ‘e he ngaahi mata ‘o e tao moe fa’o. Na’a ne fai hotau fakahekeheka pea ko eni kuo ne fakatu’uta ‘etau folau pea kuo lea mai, kuo ‘osi. Ka koeha leva e hoko atu?
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Hehehe Malo Kuti,Ne u ki'i longo pe mo 'eku ta'emahino, kae fakafeta'i he fakamaama kuo fai.Ma'afu PaluLoving husband of but one wife Elizabeth; Father of Tevita, Freddie and Pate
"Looking to Jesus" - Anonymous 1st Century Preacher (aka "Hebrews")2017-10-18 12:33 GMT+11:00 Kulimoe'anga <fisi...@gmail.com>:Hehe malo Takamuli!Mau lele atu ki Vava'u he Konifelenisi he 1994. Folau ne houtamaki hono peau mo hono matangi. Po Lotu fakaava ko 'eku toki fanongo ia he fakatavanuku he Lotu 'a e Tangata'eiki Palesiteni Mālōlō he 'aho ko ia. Mau foki ki homau nofo'anga ta koee 'oku to'o ange 'e Faivaola ia e fakatavanuku 'o 'alu ange mo ia ke tali 'aki e ngaahi ha'unga ne 'ofa ange ki he Kolisi Sia'atoutai hhhh.Mau foki ki Tonga pea mau toki lele atu ki he Palesiteni malolo ki Sopu ke fakakakato 'emau Talanga he kau palofita, pea ne kau a Faivaola he'emau alu, langa homau kete he 'aho ko iaa hhh he fakatavanuku a Faivaola hhhh.Kaekehe, fakatavanuku" ne 'osi lau ki ai 'a jh heni ko hano tulia ha kaveinga folau pe 'e taha, vave pea pau, 'o 'ikai toe ua pe lahi hake na'a tau mahaia. Ko e hoa tatau ia 'o e pehe 'e Molitoni he veesi 2 'oe 622, "Tama folau ke hanga mai, Ko e kaveinga au ki langi, 'Oua e 'uli ha me'a kehe, Ngaahi kaveinga fakahē.'Ofa atu--
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Malo Kuti, “Kato mo hono Anga”(Katoanga)
‘Oku tala ‘a e mahu’inga ‘o e Kato mei he naunau’ia hono Anga, ‘a e Faka’apa’apa, ‘a e Fiefia mo e Melino, Faka-Malo’ia mo Fakahounga pea ko e toki Katoanga lelei mo’oni ia.
Malo 'aupito hono huluhuluni e ng pakii 'aki 'etau lea Tonga.
'Ofa atu.
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Hehe malo Takamuli!Mau lele atu ki Vava'u he Konifelenisi he 1994. Folau ne houtamaki hono peau mo hono matangi. Po Lotu fakaava ko 'eku toki fanongo ia he fakatavanuku he Lotu 'a e Tangata'eiki Palesiteni Mālōlō he 'aho ko ia. Mau foki ki homau nofo'anga ta koee 'oku to'o ange 'e Faivaola ia e fakatavanuku 'o 'alu ange mo ia ke tali 'aki e ngaahi ha'unga ne 'ofa ange ki he Kolisi Sia'atoutai hhhh.Mau foki ki Tonga pea mau toki lele atu ki he Palesiteni malolo ki Sopu ke fakakakato 'emau Talanga he kau palofita, pea ne kau a Faivaola he'emau alu, langa homau kete he 'aho ko iaa hhh he fakatavanuku a Faivaola hhhh.Kaekehe, fakatavanuku" ne 'osi lau ki ai 'a jh heni ko hano tulia ha kaveinga folau pe 'e taha, vave pea pau, 'o 'ikai toe ua pe lahi hake na'a tau mahaia. Ko e hoa tatau ia 'o e pehe 'e Molitoni he veesi 2 'oe 622, "Tama folau ke hanga mai, Ko e kaveinga au ki langi, 'Oua e 'uli ha me'a kehe, Ngaahi kaveinga fakahē.'Ofa atu--
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Malo Sione,Ngali na'e fakahekeheka vakatahi e folau 'e taha, kae folau vakapuna e fakahekeheka folau ia, na'a 'oku 'ikai lava ia 'o folau vakatahi he loloa mo lua, kae vave ai ia. Pe na'e anga fefe nai 'a e tu'u 'a e lea ni he taimi 'o e folau kalia. Mahalo ko e fakahekeheka folau he popao kae toki folau atu e kalia ia 'o tau, 'o toki taa holo ke kumi e kau ha'u popao he kuo ma'u ia he matangi. Malie 'aupito 'a e anga 'ene tu'u.Si'oto'ofaatu
Ma'afu PaluLoving husband of but one wife Elizabeth; Father of Tevita, Freddie and Pate
"Looking to Jesus" - Anonymous 1st Century Preacher (aka "Hebrews")
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