'e malu nai 'e fanau mei muli 'oku o 'o 'eva ki tonga
IKI pope
Sione M. Veituna
why shouldn't they? you must be joking! My kids are currently enjoying their two weeks holiday in Tonga, the country of their birth as we speak. Should they fear of visiting? Or why shouldn't they be safe in Tonga?
From: IKI pope <iki....@tonganyouth.org.nz>
To: "tasil...@googlegroups.com" <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:46 AM
Subject: [tasilisili] 'e malu nai 'e fanau mei muli 'oku o 'o 'eva ki tonga
Kataki pee ha'ofanga kae tuku atu e ki'i fifili ko 'enii ke tau lavelave ai. Hili e malooloo pe pekia 'a e polisi Nu'u Sila ni 'i Tongaa, Kali Fungavaka pea mo e hangee ha mata'iheluu 'a hono talanga'i 'e he ngaahi mitia 'i Nu'u Sila ni pea mo tu'apule'anga foki. Ka koe me'a 'oku fakaloloma tahaa pea faka'ohovalee ko e kau ai 'etau fanau to'utupu Tonga 'i muli ni. Kapau temo kii 'eva hifo ki he ngaahi page facebook 'e ni'ihi te mou mamata ai ki he me'a 'oku ou 'uhinga ki aii. 'Oku a'u e fanau ia 'e ni'ihi 'o kape ki he toko 3 ko 'eni matamata na'a nau fai e hia ni, tapu mo kinautolu; pea mocking 'e ni'hi 'i me'a 'a tonga eg.corruption 'a e kau polisi or along that line. Pea iifia e ni'ihi eg. 'oku haa ai mo e lau ko 'enii ....it's scary to visit Tonga .....; na'e fehu'i ange 'e ha foha ta'u 18 nai ki he'ene dad ...'e fakapapau'i nai te mau safe pe he oo ki tongaa. Mou mnatu'i ko 'etau fanau 'i muli ni ko e taimi ko ee 'oku nau oo ki tongaa 'oku 'ikai ke pehee ko ha'a nau fie palangi ka ko e me'a ia 'oku nau fai henii/pe mamata ai i muli ni.... ko ia pee 'oku nau faka'amu ke fakahoko ange kia kinautolu 'i tongaa. eg. 'oku respect pe faka'apa'apa'i 'enau totonu 'o tatau pee pe ko e youth pe tangata'eiki; 'oku nau faka'amu ke fkhaa'i 'a e tau'ataina (freedom of fakamatala/speech) ke lea pe fakahoko honau le'oo 'o ka nau ka ta'efiemalie ki he me'a. 'oku 'ikai ko ha fie palangi ia ka ko e toonga mo'ui ia 'o e ngaahi fonua temokalati pe sivilaise 'oku nau tupu hake aii hangee ko aust, nz, usa, japan pe ko ha toe fonua pe 'i muli ni.ko ia 'oku ou tuku au e fakakaukau ko 'enii ke tau vakai ki ai, na' a ko ha issue eni 'oku totonu ke tokanga ki ai 'a e kau taki lotu 'i tonga pea ko e kau teu'i 'o e ngaue fakafaifekau (ministry development) koe 'uhii he 'oku polepole 'etau fanau tupu 'i muli ni ke 'iloa kinautolu ko e tonga pea nau oo ki tonga pea 'i he taimi tatau pee ke 'oua 'e hoko 'enau oo ki tonga and have good time there ko ha me'a ke mole ai 'enau mo'uii. Kou tui ko e me'a lelei e teu'i hotau ngaahi siasii mo e toutupu ke mo'ui fakalaumalie pea hao mei he ngaahi angahala ka 'oku ou tui 'oku toe mahu'inga ke fakaofiofi mai 'a e ngaahi akonaki fklotu/teu'i 'o e toutupu ki he ngaahi issue 'oku nau fetaulaki fk'aho mo ia he anga e nofo he sosaietii....koma pe pope.
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Iki Pope
Ha ha ha ke u loto lelei he ko ha taha
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Pope,
why shouldn't they? you must be joking! My kids are currently enjoying their two weeks holiday in Tonga, the country of their birth as we speak. Should they fear of visiting? Or why shouldn't they be safe in Tonga?
naé tonu ke pehee ho fehuí, kapau e maú kavamalohi éte fanau i Tonga pea puke he kau polisi; te nau malu nai?
Of course Tonga Police force has some history of brutality, but so as LAPD, NYPD, and those sophiticated Police departments in the world...Should my children fear of visiting USA?
If one digs up Police history in both NZ and Aust, we would be not be surprised that NZPD and AustPD aren't spotless. Should my chidlren fear of making a trip to Sydney or Auckland? Why shouldnt they be safe there?
what had happened in Tonga is so sad and unfortunate, thus our hearts go out to the victim and the family, but one must be taken into account all the other factors in this matter.
Most definitely Tonga has a history of police brutality, but so as the use (or abuse) of alcohol. With respect to all fb comments and media remarks, much of what being said are opinions and expressions of emotion with no clear judgment on the matter. ko ia kou pehee é lelei ke ngaohi e kaveinga ke fakapatonu, ka tau toki talanga, naá tau toe fakalahi e palopolema ki he meá kuo ósi íai!
kataki pe tokoua hange pe oku ifo eku kohikohi atu kiate koe ko hoó faá loto lelei, mhk!
Maánanga
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Kataki pee ha'ofanga kae tuku atu e ki'i fifili ko 'enii ke tau lavelave ai. Hili e malooloo pe pekia 'a e polisi Nu'u Sila ni 'i Tongaa, Kali Fungavaka pea mo e hangee ha mata'iheluu 'a hono talanga'i 'e he ngaahi mitia 'i Nu'u Sila ni pea mo tu'apule'anga foki. Ka koe me'a 'oku fakaloloma tahaa pea faka'ohovalee ko e kau ai 'etau fanau to'utupu Tonga 'i muli ni. Kapau temo kii 'eva hifo ki he ngaahi page facebook 'e ni'ihi te mou mamata ai ki he me'a 'oku ou 'uhinga ki aii. 'Oku a'u e fanau ia 'e ni'ihi 'o kape ki he toko 3 ko 'eni matamata na'a nau fai e hia ni, tapu mo kinautolu; pea mocking 'e ni'hi 'i me'a 'a tonga eg.corruption 'a e kau polisi or along that line. Pea iifia e ni'ihi eg. 'oku haa ai mo e lau ko 'enii ....it's scary to visit Tonga .....; na'e fehu'i ange 'e ha foha ta'u 18 nai ki he'ene dad ...'e fakapapau'i nai te mau safe pe he oo ki tongaa. Mou mnatu'i ko 'etau fanau 'i muli ni ko e taimi ko ee 'oku nau oo ki tongaa 'oku 'ikai ke pehee ko ha'a nau fie palangi ka ko e me'a ia 'oku nau fai henii/pe mamata ai i muli ni.... ko ia pee 'oku nau faka'amu ke fakahoko ange kia kinautolu 'i tongaa. eg. 'oku respect pe faka'apa'apa'i 'enau totonu 'o tatau pee pe ko e youth pe tangata'eiki; 'oku nau faka'amu ke fkhaa'i 'a e tau'ataina (freedom of fakamatala/speech) ke lea pe fakahoko honau le'oo 'o ka nau ka ta'efiemalie ki he me'a. 'oku 'ikai ko ha fie palangi ia ka ko e toonga mo'ui ia 'o e ngaahi fonua temokalati pe sivilaise 'oku nau tupu hake aii hangee ko aust, nz, usa, japan pe ko ha toe fonua pe 'i muli ni.
ko ia 'oku ou tuku au e fakakaukau ko 'enii ke tau vakai ki ai, na' a ko ha issue eni 'oku totonu ke tokanga ki ai 'a e kau taki lotu 'i tonga pea ko e kau teu'i 'o e ngaue fakafaifekau (ministry development) koe 'uhii he 'oku polepole 'etau fanau tupu 'i muli ni ke 'iloa kinautolu ko e tonga pea nau oo ki tonga pea 'i he taimi tatau pee ke 'oua 'e hoko 'enau oo ki tonga and have good time there ko ha me'a ke mole ai 'enau mo'uii. Kou tui ko e me'a lelei e teu'i hotau ngaahi siasii mo e toutupu ke mo'ui fakalaumalie pea hao mei he ngaahi angahala ka 'oku ou tui 'oku toe mahu'inga ke fakaofiofi mai 'a e ngaahi akonaki fklotu/teu'i 'o e toutupu ki he ngaahi issue 'oku nau fetaulaki fk'aho mo ia he anga e nofo he sosaietii....koma pe pope.
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Iki Pope
Ha ha ha ...ko e ‘ai ke u loto lelei he ko ha taha angaanganoa-‘ia au h h h ......malie lahi e fakatalanoa masi’i bainimarama ngalo ange foki nake tupu tonu koe he NYPD e, h h ha. Mo’oni ‘aupito e fakatalanoa ‘oku ke faii ka ko e anga pe eni fifili ia hangee ko e lauu ko e fakatupu pee ‘e he loto vela mafana ha ha . Na’e ‘ikai keu ‘amanaki au ‘oku lahi pehee ‘a e involve ‘a e new Zealand born pee ko e fanau ‘i muli ni ‘i he hoha’a hangee ko ia ‘oku haa he ngaahi facebook page . Pea hangee ko hoo lauu ‘oku ke mo’onii but the end of the day ko e keisi ko e konaa; kaekehe ko e anga eni ia ‘o e talanoa ‘’oku mau ma’u henii. Kapau ko e konaa pea ha’u ki tu’a ‘o tali ‘ene lift ko e konaa ia ko e konga ia e culture e to’utupuu. Pea kapau ‘oku oo atu e fanau i muli ni pea mo e fa’ahinga fakakaukau he’ikai ke taa’i pehe’i kinautolu kou tui ko e ma’u hala lahngi ia. Mahalo na’a fe’unga pe ia mo ‘amelika he lau lanu ‘a e kau ‘uli’uli mo e kau hineha..heiilo ko e fklanga talanoa pee ia masi’i maananga....
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Pope,
why shouldn't they? you must be joking! My kids are currently enjoying their two weeks holiday in Tonga, the country of their birth as we speak. Should they fear of visiting? Or why shouldn't they be safe in Tonga?
naé tonu ke pehee ho fehuí, kapau e maú kavamalohi éte fanau i Tonga pea puke he kau polisi; te nau malu nai?
Of course Tonga Police force has some history of brutality, but so as LAPD, NYPD, and those sophiticated Police departments in the world...Should my children fear of visiting USA?
If one digs up Police history in both NZ and Aust, we would be not be surprised that NZPD and AustPD aren't spotless. Should my chidlren fear of making a trip to Sydney or Auckland? Why shouldnt they be safe there?
what had happened in Tonga is so sad and unfortunate, thus our hearts go out to the victim and the family, but one must be taken into account all the other factors in this matter.
Most definitely Tonga has a history of police brutality, but so as the use (or abuse) of alcohol. With respect to all fb comments and media remarks, much of what being said are opinions and expressions of emotion with no clear judgment on the matter. ko ia kou pehee é lelei ke ngaohi e kaveinga ke fakapatonu, ka tau toki talanga, naá tau toe fakalahi e palopolema ki he meá kuo ósi íai!
kataki pe tokoua hange pe oku ifo eku kohikohi atu kiate koe ko hoó faá loto lelei, mhk!
Maánanga
Kataki pee ha'ofanga kae tuku atu e ki'i fifili ko 'enii ke tau lavelave ai. Hili e malooloo pe pekia 'a e polisi Nu'u Sila ni 'i Tongaa, Kali Fungavaka pea mo e hangee ha mata'iheluu 'a hono talanga'i 'e he ngaahi mitia 'i Nu'u Sila ni pea mo tu'apule'anga foki. Ka koe me'a 'oku fakaloloma tahaa pea faka'ohovalee ko e kau ai 'etau fanau to'utupu Tonga 'i muli ni. Kapau temo kii 'eva hifo ki he ngaahi page facebook 'e ni'ihi te mou mamata ai ki he me'a 'oku ou 'uhinga ki aii. 'Oku a'u e fanau ia 'e ni'ihi 'o kape ki he toko 3 ko 'eni matamata na'a nau fai e hia ni, tapu mo kinautolu; pea mocking 'e ni'hi 'i me'a 'a tonga eg.corruption 'a e kau polisi or along that line. Pea iifia e ni'ihi eg. 'oku haa ai mo e lau ko 'enii ....it's scary to visit Tonga .....; na'e fehu'i ange 'e ha foha ta'u 18 nai ki he'ene dad ...'e fakapapau'i nai te mau safe pe he oo ki tongaa. Mou mnatu'i ko 'etau fanau 'i muli ni ko e taimi ko ee 'oku nau oo ki tongaa 'oku 'ikai ke pehee ko ha'a nau fie palangi ka ko e me'a ia 'oku nau fai henii/pe mamata ai i muli ni.... ko ia pee 'oku nau faka'amu ke fakahoko ange kia kinautolu 'i tongaa. eg. 'oku respect pe faka'apa'apa'i 'enau totonu 'o tatau pee pe ko e youth pe tangata'eiki; 'oku nau faka'amu ke fkhaa'i 'a e tau'ataina (freedom of fakamatala/speech) ke lea pe fakahoko honau le'oo 'o ka nau ka ta'efiemalie ki he me'a. 'oku 'ikai ko ha fie palangi ia ka ko e toonga mo'ui ia 'o e ngaahi fonua temokalati pe sivilaise 'oku nau tupu hake aii hangee ko aust, nz, usa, japan pe ko ha toe fonua pe 'i muli ni.
ko ia 'oku ou tuku au e fakakaukau ko 'enii ke tau vakai ki ai, na' a ko ha issue eni 'oku totonu ke tokanga ki ai 'a e kau taki lotu 'i tonga pea ko e kau teu'i 'o e ngaue fakafaifekau (ministry development) koe 'uhii he 'oku polepole 'etau fanau tupu 'i muli ni ke 'iloa kinautolu ko e tonga pea nau oo ki tonga pea 'i he taimi tatau pee ke 'oua 'e hoko 'enau oo ki tonga and have good time there ko ha me'a ke mole ai 'enau mo'uii. Kou tui ko e me'a lelei e teu'i hotau ngaahi siasii mo e toutupu ke mo'ui fakalaumalie pea hao mei he ngaahi angahala ka 'oku ou tui 'oku toe mahu'inga ke fakaofiofi mai 'a e ngaahi akonaki fklotu/teu'i 'o e toutupu ki he ngaahi issue 'oku nau fetaulaki fk'aho mo ia he anga e nofo he sosaietii....koma pe pope.
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Sione M. Veituna
katakií ange au, ikai koaa oku ou talanoa atu pe au pehee eni pe é au ko e fuú Eua koe, ta koaa oku sii hala éku maú, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
ofa atu toko!
Maánanga
From: Iki Pope <iki....@tonganyouth.org.nz>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:05 PM
Subject: RE: [tasilisili] 'e malu nai 'e fanau mei muli 'oku o 'o 'eva ki tonga
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