SUTT vs NZMethodists/UCA/UMC

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penisimani mone

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Jan 21, 2010, 9:40:35 PM1/21/10
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Sifa:
Sisilia,
Malo e ngaue lahi mei hena.Oku hangee pe kiate au oku tatau eta sio,oku tatau pe Metotisi moe SUTT.Ka kuo  fai foki ehe Sutt ae ngaue faka evangelio lelei pea kuo fokotuu a e Sutt moe Vahe fonua i Aust;NZ mo USA i he matafale pe oe Uniting. NZ Metotisi mo UMC USA. Kapau koe foi ngaue fakaevangelio lelei, koe ha nai ha ongoi ae SUTT kapau e fai pehe Uniting,NZ mo UMC o fokotuu i Tonga.?
Ka oku ke ilo ha mea e Silia e ikai teitei tali ehe Uniting.NZM moe UMC ke fokotuu i Tonga he oku iai pe hotau api ai ko SUTT.
 Ofa atu
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Sisilia Thomas

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Jan 21, 2010, 10:43:50 PM1/21/10
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Óku í ai hoó moóni, Sifa. Óku ou tui pehee, he íkai faifai angee pea í ai ha taimi é folau atu ai ha kau tama mei he Uniting í heni ke fokotuú hanau siasi í Tonga, pea pehee pe ki he NZM & UMC. Ko e oo pe ki Tonga í ha fakaafe mai pe ko ha fiemaú tokoni ki he SUTT.
 
Pea mahalo pe naá óku kií siísií ange á e puputuú ia í NZ & US (not sure).  Ko eni (Aust), óku íkai mahino ki he toko lahi ia óku kehe á e SUTT mei he Tonga Parish.  Mahino pe á e mavahe á e UCA, he óku under he National Conference ';a e kau palangi he fonua ni, ka ko e toe mataua mai á e ongo tama ko ee, ó mau matatolu atu leva ! Taimi pe ó e foki atu ai ki he nuúu (Tonga), tau SUTT kotoa pe, pulia leva á e ngaahi áa vahevahe. 
 
Tau kií vakai sií angee ki he structures ó e maahangatolu á Aositelelia: UCA, Tonga Parish & SUTTA.  Óku under e Uniting Church á e kakai Tonga he National Conference á e UCA; under á e SUTTA he National Conference á Tongaa, pehe mo e Tonga Parish, he óku ómai é he SUTT í Tonga á e kau faifekau ki he Tonga Parish, providing the UCA gives the okay (mahalo ko ia).
 
Hangee kiate au ko e power lahi taha te ne lava ó holoki e ngaahi áa vahevahee ko eni, ko e National Conference á e SUTT í Tonga.  They've endorsed the setting up of every worship group under the SUTT here and other countries.  Pea kuo toki moóni ai e lau á e taha he Tasilisili áneafi, taha ia ha foí ngaue fakaévangelioo áonga & vave, ó íkai fai ki he kakai teéki ai te nau ílo á Sisuu, ka óku fai e fangota ia, ísa á e fakaului kakai ia, mei he loto falelotu!  Maalie... Ófa atu & lotu, Sisilia.

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Sepesi H Piukala

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Óku ou tui heíkai kovi ka fokotuú ha Faiángalotu Palangi í Tonga malumalu he UCA pe Metotisi NZ or US, feingaí ke íai mo ha vaá ó ha Siasi Kalisitiane mei Siaina, Fiji mo IndiA í Tonga pea kenau feakoáki mo teke malohi áe moúi Fakakalisitiane. Tetau femamaeáki ka ko e Mosilemi mo e ngaahi Lotu íkai kalisitiane kuo nau kamata , pea ái ai mo e kamata lelei. Ka faifai ó fokotuú ai á Knox pe ko Wesley,makehe pe ia mei he Kolisi ko Tupou , ko e fakamfana atu ó ka feinghaí pe étau kau Nopele kenau ako pe í Tonga ke ía hanau kakai ha áho, í honau toúako. Tenau fetuku atu ki Tonga ai ha kakai mei Tuápuleánga ke ngaue honau ngaahi Siasi , ka é fakakoloa ia ma'a Tonga. Lava foki ke maú ngaue ai moe kau Faifekau í Tonga, ka óku totonu ke Kamata ha Siasi mei Muli é 3 í Tonngayapu, takitaha e ngaahi Motu pea tau vakai ange ki hono founga fakalele ó e ngaahi SIasi ko ia pe é ofi ki he Sutt í Tonga pe ko ha meá kena feakoáki ai.
 
Kapau é Fokotuú á knox ia í Houma pea Wesley í Nukuálofa , too atu, pea óu naátau manavasií he ko tautolu Tonga muli pe é fiefia aii kae hakailangitau ai á Tupou mo Houéiki.
 
takamuli
 
 
 
 
 
Sepesi H. Piukala
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Rev. Sisitoutai Taufa

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Sepesi ke fokotu'u 'a Knox College 'i tonga.
Hange ko ho'o fakaangaanga ki he Knox College ke kamata'aki 'a e Siasi
uca 'i Tonga mo e ako,'ave mo e kau ngaue mei heni ke kamata'i,ko e
toki me'a ka malie ange fau,'a ia te fika 'uluaki koe mo Steven he
foki,pea mo e book pe 'e moua mo ho'omo fanau 'a e ako 'o mapuni ee.Ko
e ki'i Sideschool ko ena 'i Maamaloa fully book aupito he ta'u 'e ua
ahead,pea ka toe pehe ko e kau memipa Siasi uca pe ,te mo fefe'i e
kakai?.Kuo u tui 'e fiefia lahi 'a e kau memipa fo'ou,pau pe 'e loto
lelei 'a e SUTT he ko e Siasi tatau pe,tui pe 'e toe fiefia ai pe mo
Uaniva mo Sisilia ke na oo 'o fakataukei 'a e kamata 'a e tamaiki
fefine,kau atu ai mo Maumi 'Ofahengaue kau ai pe mo Bill ko e 'aonga
atu,faifekau pe mo toe tokanga'i 'a e tafa'aki faka physical Ed. etc mo
e 'ofa ai pe Sisi T.

Sepesi H Piukala wrote:
> Óku ou tui heíkai kovi ka fokotuú ha Faiángalotu Palangi í Tonga
> malumalu he UCA pe Metotisi NZ or US, feingaí ke íai mo ha vaá ó ha
> Siasi Kalisitiane mei Siaina, Fiji mo IndiA í Tonga pea kenau feakoáki
> mo teke malohi áe moúi Fakakalisitiane. Tetau femamaeáki ka ko e
> Mosilemi mo e ngaahi Lotu íkai kalisitiane kuo nau kamata , pea ái ai
> mo e kamata lelei. Ka faifai ó fokotuú ai á Knox pe ko Wesley,makehe
> pe ia mei he Kolisi ko Tupou , ko e fakamfana atu ó ka feinghaí pe
> étau kau Nopele kenau ako pe í Tonga ke ía hanau kakai ha áho, í honau
> toúako. Tenau fetuku atu ki Tonga ai ha kakai mei Tuápuleánga ke ngaue
> honau ngaahi Siasi , ka é fakakoloa ia ma'a Tonga. Lava foki ke maú
> ngaue ai moe kau Faifekau í Tonga, ka óku totonu ke Kamata ha Siasi
> mei Muli é 3 í Tonngayapu, takitaha e ngaahi Motu pea tau vakai ange
> ki hono founga fakalele ó e ngaahi SIasi ko ia pe é ofi ki he Sutt í
> Tonga pe ko ha meá kena feakoáki ai.
>
> Kapau é Fokotuú á knox ia í Houma pea Wesley í Nukuálofa , too atu,
> pea óu naátau manavasií he ko tautolu Tonga muli pe é fiefia aii kae
> hakailangitau ai á Tupou mo Houéiki.
>
> takamuli
>
>

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> * Email: sep...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:sep...@optusnet.com.au> *
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> of Abraham, the God of Issac and the God of Jacob."/
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Nau

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> Malo e ngaue lahi mei hena.Oku hangee pe kiate au oku tatau eta sio,oku
> tatau pe Metotisi moe SUTT.Ka kuo  fai foki ehe Sutt ae ngaue faka evangelio
> lelei pea kuo fokotuu a e Sutt moe Vahe fonua i Aust;NZ mo USA i he matafale
> pe oe Uniting. NZ Metotisi mo UMC USA. Kapau koe foi ngaue fakaevangelio
> lelei, koe ha nai ha ongoi ae SUTT kapau e fai pehe Uniting,NZ mo UMC o
> fokotuu i Tonga.?

Malo mu'a kau Taula'eiki e pakipaki ma ke mau lave atu ai mo
kimautolu. Ko e kaveinga malie ena kuo fai ki ai e fakatalanoa, ka kuo
fuoloa e fe'ao 'a e ngaahi siasi 'i muli moe ngaahi pole ko eni. Ki'i
fuoloa e puli hoku tokoua ko Misiteli, ka ke 'ofa mai Misiteli 'o 'asi
mai he te ke tokoni lahi 'aupito he talanoa ko eni.
Na'a ku fanongo pe na'e taukave'i fefeka 'e he Palesiteni maloloo ko
Dr. Sione 'Amanaki Havea, ki he kainga Tonga 'oku movete he ngaahi
fonua muli ke nau oo pe 'o unga ki he malumalu hotau ngaahi siasi
ta'okete 'i muli - NZ Metotisi, US UMC, Uniting etc. Ko e 'aho ni,
'oku kehe ia.
Ko e taimi ko eni 'o Dr. 'Alifeleti Mone, na'e fu'u mahu'inga 'aupito
ki he Palesiteni ia 'a e me'a ko e ngaue faka'evangelioo, he ko hono
mala'e. Ne kamata leva ke toe malohi ange 'a e SUTT 'i he ngaahi fonua
muli with the belessings of the SUTT mei Tonga.
Ko 'eku fehu'i leva eni. Koe ha hono palopalema? 'Oku 'ikai ke puli ko
e me'a kotoa pe 'oku hoko, 'oku 'i ai hono lelei pea toe 'i ai mo hono
faingata'a, ka tau hanga mu'a 'o fuatautau 'a e faingata'a mo e
tapuaki 'o e fokotu'u 'o e SUTT he ngaahi fonua muli. 'Oku ou faka'amu
ke u nofo pe, at least for now, 'i he tafa'aki tapuaki 'o hono
fokotu'u 'a e SUTT he ngaahi fonua muli.
1) 'I he tafa'aki faka-taki, 'oku lahi 'aupito 'a e kakai kuo 'osi
teu'i faka-laumalie mei Tonga pea 'oku fe'unga 'aupito ke nau taki
faka-laumalie 'a e kakai tonga 'i he ngaahi fonua muli. Kapau 'e 'alu
'a e fa'ahinga ko ia ki he ngaahi siasi muli, pea kapau 'oku 'ikai ke
fu'u lelei 'enau fetu'utaki, he 'ikai ke nau toe ma'u 'enautolu 'a e
tu'ungataki ko eni, 'a ia ne 'osi teu'i kinautolu ki ai pea 'oku nau
fu'u fe'unga 'aupito ke nau taki fakalaumalie 'i he siasi. Me'a pango
pe he ko e poini ko eni 'oku 'i ai 'a e ongo fo'i issue 'e 2 ai pea
'oku faingata'a ke fakamavahevahe'i. (Taki lelei vs Fietaki) 'Oku ou
faka'amu pe ke nofo pe 'a e sio 'i he Taki lelei kae tukuange 'a e fie-
taki, ka ko e fo'i pulu faingata'a hono va'inga'i. Ko ia 'oku ou
pehee, tuku aipeke mau 'ai'ai pe he tafa'aki 'o e metotisi moe
uniting, he kuo 'osi teu'i lelei pe 'a e kau taki fe'unga mo hotau
kakai, 'o tatau ai pe pe 'oku nau fetu'utaki lelei pe 'ikai ka kuo
'osi teu'i fakalaumalie kinautolu ke nau taki faka-faifekau, faka-
setuata, faka-tauhisipi.
2) 'Oku 'ikai totonu ke tukuange hotau kakai 'oku ta'efiemalie he
ngaahi siasi lalahi -uniting, umc, metotisi, ke nau hee takai holo. Ko
e tu'u 'a e SUTT 'oku nau tali 'a e si'i kakai 'oku nau faingataa'ia
he foungangaue moe founga taki 'a e ngaahi siasi lalahi. Kapau 'e
'ikai ha SUTT, te nau fakafonu atu kinautolu he siasi katolika, siasi
penitekosi, siasi mamonga, siasi nofo-pe-i-'api, moe siasi kasino.
3) Te u ngata he kau lele 'o fai e ki'i pu'i ko eni ka u toki hoko
atu, ka mou kataki pe 'o laku mai 'a e ngaahi lelei 'o e lele 'a e
SUTT he ngaahi fonua muli ka tau toki hoko atu 'amui ange ki hono
ngaahi pole.

ofa moe lotu,
Nau Koka.

pas...@genesischurch.org

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Malo aupito Nau e pakipaki mahino mo maama.Oku ou tui oku mooni a Fakapulia ke kii tuku kihe tafaaki ae issue koeni ka tau toki lave kiai a mui ange.Hange kiate au oku loto a Fakapulia ke uluaki e fk-vavau aia nae lave kiai i mua pea toki hoko atu.Fakapulia kuo iai hoku ki konga api i Tongatapu pea nae fuoloa eku fokoutua ai. Vakaii a SFaupula oku iai hono apikolo moe apiuta i Vavau koe tama totonu ia pea ka ikai pea ke tali mai.
Fakamolemole atu kihe issue neu ohake.
Sifa.

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Nau Koka:
 
> 2) 'Oku 'ikai totonu ke tukuange hotau kakai 'oku ta'efiemalie he
> ngaahi siasi lalahi -uniting, umc, metotisi, ke nau hee takai holo. Ko
> e tu'u 'a e SUTT 'oku nau tali 'a e si'i kakai 'oku nau faingataa'ia
> he foungangaue moe founga taki 'a e ngaahi siasi lalahi. Kapau 'e
> 'ikai ha SUTT, te nau fakafonu atu kinautolu he siasi katolika, siasi
> penitekosi, siasi mamonga, siasi nofo-pe-i-'api, moe siasi kasino.

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Malo e fakakohukohu Nau. Ko e poini eni 'oku malie ka tokanga ki ai, he ko hono tafa'aki 'e taha 'oku totonu ai ke toe 'ai mo ha siasi 'e taha ke nau teuteu mai ki hono tali e ni'ihi ko eni 'oku faingata'a'ia he founga taki 'a e SUTT 'i muli. Pea 'i he tu'a 'o e siasi ko ia pea toe 'ai mo ha siasi ai 'e taha ke teuteu pe, pea hili ia pea 'oua pe 'e tuku hono talanoa'i hono fokotu'u mo ha siasi 'e taha ke tali e ni'ihi 'e ta'efiemalie mo hee 'o pehe pehe ai pe. Ko e fakalanga atu pe he 'oku 'ikai ke lava 'e he SUTT 'o tanaki e kakai 'oku hee mo faingata'a'ia 'aki 'enau founga fakangaue. Ko e fakatalanoa, fefe ke 'ai 'o loolahi'i e siasi? Pea lau pe 'a e SUTT ko e taha pe ia 'o e ngaahi tangai (in terms of 'tali' 'fakafonu' 'oku ke ngaue'aki). Ka "fakafonu" ha ngaahi fo'i vasuva ha milemila pe 'e taha pea mahino pe 'e tuaiekemo 'ene mahae (tulou). Pea ka loofitu'i e milemila pea 'e pau ange 'ene lava ke "tali" 'i he lootaha. Ka ko e me'a 'oku 'ikai ke 'ilo pe ko e fe 'a e tangai 'e fie taupotu ki loto mo ia 'e hoko ai mo e hoko atu ai 'o a'u ai pe ki he tu'a.
 
ko e sio fakamilemila pe,
loke
 
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Rev. Sisitoutai Taufa

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Loke
Malo 'etau toe lava mai ki he fo'u ta'u fo'ou ko eni,malie e
fakatalanoa,ka 'oku te manatu ki he sivi 'eikivaka 'a e motu'a
Vava'u,tala ange 'e he fai sivi,ka to mai ha ki'i matangi,ko e ha ho'o
me'a 'e fai? Teu lii e taula ,fefe ka toe to mai mo ha matangi,ko e tali
tatau 'a e toe lii pe mo e taula,pea toe hokohoko mai pe 'a e matangi mo
e lii taula ai pe ,pea ko e fehu'i leva,Na'e 'ikai ha toe me'a kehe ia
ho vaka ?ko e taula pe, Ne ke ma'u kotoa 'e koe 'a e 'u matangi.? Loke
malo e tokoni ki he tanaki 'oe tangai milemila,ta 'oku 'aonga pe ha ha
ha. mo e 'ofa atu ki he fai 'etau ako Sisi T.

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> "Be faithful in small things because it is in them that our strength
> lies." --Mother Teresa

sfaupula

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Jan 22, 2010, 9:14:38 PM1/22/10
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hahahah! faifekau malo mu'a ngaue lahi mei hena. fkfiefia mo'oni e felongoaki he faleni pea 'ofa atu ki he famili. kae kataki pe faifekau, ko hoku 'api tukuhau 'oku tu'u pe ia 'i hornsby, 'asitelelia. kapau ko ha 'ai 'api 'uta, 'oku ke mo'oni 'oku tu'u ia 'i vava'u. hahaha! ka ko hotau 'api ma'u 'oku hala koula ia 'o fktatau ki he lau 'a e tohi matolu...hahaha! 'o4lahia2
 


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hahahah! malo loke pea 'oku ke mo'oni. kapau 'e toe fokotu'u moha ngaahi siasi hange ko e us ucm, nz meto, moe uca 'i tonga 'e faingofua ange ai hono tokanga'i fklaumalie e kakai uesiliana 'i tonga. ko e tu'u he taimi ni 'oku fu'u tokolahi kae 'ikai lava lelei hono tauhi fklaumalie kinautolu... ko e fanongo talanoa pe foki... malie lahi hono fktataa e siasi ki he vasuva... hahahah! malo

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Veni,
 
Kataki mu'a kae 'ekeange kia Maniate 'a e fika telefoni 'a Linda. Fiema'u ke faka'eke'eke e me'a fekau'aki mo e sikolasipi ki'i leka ako mei Vaotu'u.
 
Malo..Lote

2010/1/22 sfaupula <sk...@optusnet.com.au>

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Nau, ko e ha 'oku fai ai 'a e hikihiki kau 'a?
Ko e fatongia lahi ena pea mo e visone taumama'o ki he SUTT ke
fakakakato. 'Oku ou faka'apa'apa ke lave ki he fatongia ngaue 'a e SUTT
ka 'oku mahu'inga ketau manatu 'oku 'ikai ko e Siasi pe 'a e SUTT. "oku 'i
ai 'a e Katolika, Ingilani, SUTT, Tonga Tau'ataina, Tonga Hou'eiki,
Konisitutone, Tokaikolo etc.

Hange kiate au 'oku mahu'inga ange ke pole'i 'a e kakai ki he tali 'o Kalaisi
pea mo'ui 'i he feinga fakama'oppo'opo ki he SUTT

mo e 'ofa mei he Nursingh Chapel.

hausia

Sepesi H Piukala

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Faifekau,

Óku ou fakakaukau pehe pe koéku sio ki he lelei hono langa óe Sutt í OZ ni,
pea óku ou pehe kuo hoko ko e tapuaki étau tokolahi Siasi Tonga í Oz ni, ka
toe áu atu mo e ngaahi Siasi Fakakalisitiane kehe í Muli ni ki Tonga é kehe
hono fiefia.

Áve ki ai mo e Pymble ladies College, ke na uoua mai mo Kuini Salote ko e
teuí fefine maá Tongaa. Fakalele fakapalangi áupito ia pea í he tukufakaholo
Fakapalangi, he ko Tonga High óku nau pehe ka heíkai Kovi ka aú atu e ngaahi
Siasi óku tau fakakaunga tamaki ai í Muli ó fokotuú í Tonga, he ko Siaosi
Tupou v pe é úluaki mokoi ki ai pea ko e Sea ia ó e Sutt.

Faifekau poleí ha taha kehe, heé úluaki taaí pe au í Malaé Vakapuna heni óku
teéki ke u aú mo e UCA ki Tonga ha ha ha.


Sepesi.

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the God of Issac and the God of Jacob."

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Na'ate lele 'o fai eki'i pu'i 'a Mom ki he potu hahake pea koe toki a'u mai 'eni....  'oku ki'i lahai lahi lahi e felauaki he SUTT .. ka 'oku hange koe lau 'ae tokotaha .. koe kakai 'oku mahu'inga he siasi ka 'oku 'ikai koe structures, moe lao, pea moe perception 'ae ni'ihi...  he saving souls  'ae taumu'a ma'olunga taha 'o hono fokotu'u ha siasi, pea toki hokohoko atu ai e ngaahi mo'oni kehe... 

Kapau 'oku hanga 'ehe SUTT 'o provide e fiema'u 'ae fa'ahinga koe kuo marginalized 'ehe toe 'oe ngaahi main line Tongan Christian churches koe malo ia 'enau ngaue faka-kalaisi 'oku fai...  ko 'etau mafuli 'o tokanga ki he tafa'aki faka tanaki pa'anga moe ma'u mafaii, te tau palopalema...  nofo pe 'e tau fakakaukau he "saving souls" he ka fakataha ha tokoua pe tolu 'ia kalaisi 'e 'afio ia HONAU LOTOLOTONGA...!!


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Subject: [tasilisili] Re: SUTT vs NZMethodists/UCA/UMC

mohetaulanga kupu

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Ki'i kau noa he talanoa 1975 na'e fou mai 'ae tangataeiki Palesiteni A/Havea na'e nofo he api John Schaumkel i Grey lynn auckland mau lele atu ki ai mo Kilifi Heimuli , moe matu'a  haafekasi ne nau i Auck NZ mahalo ki he 6ngofulutupu si'i.Koe Talanoa malie ae Palesiteni felave'i moe aluange ae kau tea ki tonga moe Lotu, Pea kuo tangata 'ae lotu i he fo'i piliote,pea 'oku kamata ke hikifonua e kakai  Tonga ki Aust, New Zealand, Usa. Ko'etau hanga ia o fakafoki mai'ae Lotu ki he kau Palangi.Pea koe  kau 'ae tonga he Metotisi i Muli  'oku ne fakakake ae fika 'oe Metotisi tokolahi he 'oku 'osi ilo ia 'oku  kamata ke holo ae tokolahi 'oe metotisi pea ngaongao e ngaahi falelotu e ni'ihi, Koia na'a pehe mou nofo pe he malumalu 'oe kau Palangi. Koe ave oe Metotisi ki Tonga  mahuinga pe ke tau tiotio lelei na'a kuo lahi e lotu i Tonga. 'ofa moe lotu. General


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Subject: [tasilisili] SUTT vs NZMethodists/UCA/UMC
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Malo ongo faifekau e fakatalanoa, pea ko e kaveinga malie ena mo 'aonga ki he kaha'u 'etau fonongaa, pea 'oku ou 'amanaki 'e tokolahi ha kau fie lave ki ai, ka ko eni ku ou taha'i mai pe ki hee ke tau 'ataa mai mei he moto 'o e fonuaa, kae hoko atu pee e lavee, ko hai te ne 'ilo na'a hoko mai, malie.....
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Jan 24, 2010, 7:58:27 PM1/24/10
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Malie Misiteli. ko e me'a ia na'a ku ui tokoni ai. Ko e tonu pasika
atu ho'o fo'i lii ko ena. Na'e 'ikai te u 'amanaki te ke vave mai.
Tala ki he hoa ke tuku hifo ha f'oi pu'i 'e 10, 'ai pe ha fo'i pu'i 'e
9 he ko e me'a ia 'oku ke fa'a puli ai ko e lahi e pu'i. 'Io, 'oku ke
mo'oni 'aupito, lahi e tokanga ki he structures, kae li'aki e
mission.
Ka 'oku pe 'a e ki'i me'a ko eni 'oku ou fakatokanga'i - kapau 'oku te
'i loto 'i he structure, pea 'oku 'ikai ke te fu'u lava 'o
fakamavahevahe'i 'a e structure pea mo e mission. Kapau 'oku te 'i
tu'a kite mei he structure, pea 'oku hange leva he'ikai ke te fu'u
mahu'inga'ia kita 'i he structure, mo'unofoa pe kita 'i he mission.
Hangehange te u toe foki ki he Siasi Fakahangatonu eeh?

Ofa moe lotu,
Nau Koka.

Nau

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> Malo e fakakohukohu Nau. Ko e poini eni 'oku malie ka tokanga ki ai, he ko hono tafa'aki 'e taha 'oku totonu ai ke toe 'ai mo ha siasi 'e taha ke nau teuteu mai ki hono tali e ni'ihi ko eni 'oku faingata'a'ia he founga taki 'a e SUTT 'i muli. Pea 'i he tu'a 'o e siasi ko ia pea toe 'ai mo ha siasi ai 'e taha ke teuteu pe, pea hili ia pea 'oua pe 'e tuku hono talanoa'i hono fokotu'u mo ha siasi 'e taha ke tali e ni'ihi 'e ta'efiemalie mo hee 'o pehe pehe ai pe. Ko e fakalanga atu pe he 'oku 'ikai ke lava 'e he SUTT 'o tanaki e kakai 'oku hee mo faingata'a'ia 'aki 'enau founga fakangaue.

Loke,
Maloo e kohu. Kuo ha e fakakohukohu ia kuo ke kohu ai koee? Mo'oni e
lau 'a e faifekau, 'ko ho'o milemila fua 'au mei fee? Na'a ku pehee 'e
au kuo 'osi e milemila hono ngaue mai 'aki 'e he fa'ahinga ko ena he
mu'aki siasi. Talu e kamata e lotu faka-kalisitaine moe fakamilemila,
pea na'e kamata mai pe ia 'e he kau haua ko ena na'a nau muimui holo
he vale haua ko ena ko Sisuu (you know what I'm sayin). Tala atu 'e
Pita na'e topuva'e taha mo Sisuu ko e siasi ee, talamai 'e Semisi ia,
'ikai ko e siasi eni. 'I he a'u hake 'a e siasi ki Tonga kuo 'osi e
milemila ia. Hoko mai mo e fa'ahinga ne nau fakatokanga'i 'a e
maumau'i 'e he milemila 'a e 'aatakai 'o nau ta'ofi 'enautolu ke 'oua
na'a toe ngaue'aki e milemila. Tau hoko atu ki he paperbag. Ko ene
tu'u he taimi ni 'ikai toe fiema'u ha bag ia. 'Ai ke m'oni e lea ko ee
ko e maka-fetoli'aki. toli mai kimoutolu ka mau toli atu kimautolu.
Mo'oni leva e lea 'a e motu'a malanga, 'mou fefua'aki homou ngaahi
mafasia'anga'. Tuku pe ke mau liilii pe he tafa'aki 'o tali e kau
mafasia mei ho'omou tafa'aki. Pea ka 'i ai ha kau mafasia mei he'emau
tafa'aki, kataki 'o talamai he vavetaha ke 'oange ha'anau mafasia ke
lahi ke nau o atu mo ia ke mou mafasia lahi 'aupito ai. Maloo e ngaue,
faifekau.

'Ofa moe lotu,
Nau Koka.

mohetaulanga kupu

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Jan 24, 2010, 9:02:21 PM1/24/10
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Ki'i fehu'i fai mei he funga a koe a papa pe hei kai fai ha lavea ia ai.Kapau e fokotu'u i Tonga ae Metotisi NZ  pe Uniting ,UMC te tau lava o hu ai ki Langi, koe tio pe na'a tau moua he fetukutuku holo pea hoko mai ae  Ui 'oku tau kei hiki holo pe. 'Ofa atu moe lotu.
General


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Subject: [tasilisili] SUTT vs NZMethodists/UCA/UMC

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Malo ongo faifekau e fakatalanoa, pea ko e kaveinga malie ena mo 'aonga ki he kaha'u 'etau fonongaa, pea 'oku ou 'amanaki 'e tokolahi ha kau fie lave ki ai, ka ko eni ku ou taha'i mai pe ki hee ke tau 'ataa mai mei he moto 'o e fonuaa, kae hoko atu pee e lavee, ko hai te ne 'ilo na'a hoko mai, malie.....
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Nau

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On Jan 24, 6:02 pm, mohetaulanga kupu <seniale...@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
> Ki'i fehu'i fai mei he funga a koe a papa pe hei kai fai ha lavea ia ai.Kapau e fokotu'u i Tonga ae Metotisi NZ  pe Uniting ,UMC te tau lava o hu ai ki Langi, koe tio pe na'a tau moua he fetukutuku holo pea hoko mai ae  Ui 'oku tau kei hiki holo pe. 'Ofa atu moe lotu.
> General

Seniale, maloo e fakakohukohu. Ko e fehu'i malie 'oku ke faii. 'Oku ou
tui ko e me'a lelei ke fokotu'u 'a e Metotisi NZ, UCA moe UMC 'i
Tonga, 'okapau 'oku 'i ai hano kakai. Tatau tofu pe moe fokotu'u SUTT
'i muli. 'Oku fokotu'uu ko e 'i ai hono kakai. Pea 'oku 'ikai ke
totonu ke fakafaingataa'ia'i hano kamata 'o ha siasi 'i ha feitu'u,
tatau pe 'i he ngaahi fonua muli pea mo Tonga. Ko e 'ai pe loto ia ke
hangee ha tangai suka pea faingofua pe 'a e ngaahi me'a ia 'oku haa
ngali faingata'a. Ko e lii faka-saisihangatonu pe.

hamilto...@paradise.net.nz

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Na'e 'osi fokotu'u 'i Tonga 'a e kainga lotu Tonga 'o fakaongoongo mai ki
honau 'ulu'i 'ofisi 'oku 'i Auck.

Sisilia Thomas

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Mahalo ki he Ótu Langi í Lapaha (ha!ha!)  Mo e ófa ai pe ki he fetukutuku holoo.  (Sisilia)

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From: mohetaulanga kupu <senia...@yahoo.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] SUTT vs NZMethodists/UCA/UMC

Ben Mysterymann

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'Ikai koe kamata pe ha mission ia 'oku 'otomatiki pe 'ae langa ai moe structure fo'ou ia.  Kapau 'oku te fienofo pe kita he structure motu'a 'oku sai pe ia he 'oku 'i ai moe mission ia ai.  Koe 'uhinga 'eku lau'aku ia ki he mahu'inga 'oe ngaahi laumalie kuo nau kina he structure motu'a pea nau ta'utu he lotu..  kapau SUTT te ne 'omi e ngaahi laumalie ko 'eni kia Sisuu pea koe lelei taha ia... he koe kamata pe 'ae Siasi ia ko ia moe structure fo'ou mission fo'ou.. ko hona tatau moe structure motu'a he 'oku na ngaue pe ki he tama 'e taha ko Sisuu... 
 
koe lotu hangatonu koe issue kehe ia..  koe kautama pe ia 'oku nau fu'u fakapikopiko pe kinautolu ia he fua kavenga ma'ae 'eiki...  'oku hange ia ha talatoo!!

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Subject: [tasilisili] Re: SUTT vs NZMethodists/UCA/UMC

Nau

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>  
> koe lotu hangatonu koe issue kehe ia..  koe kautama pe ia 'oku nau fu'u fakapikopiko pe kinautolu ia he fua kavenga ma'ae 'eiki...  'oku hange ia ha talatoo!!
>

Maloo e poupou ia ki he fakakaukau Misiteli, ka ke kataki 'oua te ke
lea mai koe ki homau siasi he 'oku 'ikai ke u lea atu au ki homou
siasi. Ko e faufaua atu 'emau kavenga ka 'oku 'ikai ke ke mea'i 'e
koe. Ko 'emau misiona ke mau taloa hangatonu pe ki he 'Eiki, 'ikai toe
fai ha afeafe holo. Lahi e ngaahi me'akai 'a e ngaahi siasi 'o
fakakavenga'aki e kakai. Ka ne taumafa puaka 'a e 'Eiki kuo fuoloa
ha'a ne stroke ho'omou fafanga'aki ho'omou ngaahi kaipola faka-
kavenga. Mou tukutuku mai ke tau 'alu hangatonu. Ko e me'a 'oku
fiema'u ia 'e he 'Otua ko e loto lavea mo mafesifesi, 'oku 'ikai ko e
puaka 'e 5 he pola. Ko e ki'i tu'uaki atu pe 'emau misiona fo'ou.

ofa atu

Fatai Slender

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from: Fatai
26/1/2010
 
Ko e kau'italanoa atu pe ho'omou felafoaki. Ko homau siasi 'oku nau morning tea he Sapate kotoape. Pea 'oku 'ikai ko e la'i biscuit pe ko e ki'i sandwich ka ko e toe fu'u kai atu. Pea ko e a'u ki he pekia mo e toetu'u pea fai e malanga fakatahataha pea toe hulu ange ia. Na'e lea mai e faifekau papalangi kia au 'o ne pehe mai we love your feasting and singing. 'E fefee nai kapau 'e 'ai pe mo fetongi  e feasting 'aki 'a e fasting and singing. Mole ke mama'o ha pehe ke tuku 'e kaipola kae fakafuofua pe. 
 
Na'e 'eke ange 'e he ongo akonga kia Sisu. Koeha 'oku 'ikai ai ke mau lava 'o kapusi tevolo pea folofola ange 'a Sisu 'Mou lotu mo 'aukai'. 
 
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 08:13:55 -0800

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Hunu Hunu

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Jan 25, 2010, 8:07:48 PM1/25/10
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Fatai:
Malo e fakakohukohu mei hena. Manatu ki he fakatonulea 'a e palangi misinale hono fakafehu'i 'i Aust. pe ko e ha 'oku kaipola lalahi ai e kau Tonga, 'osi 'oku 'ikai tenau kai e me'akai ke 'osi. Talaange 'e he misinale, na'a mau o atu ki Tonga 'oku kau e me'akai ia he ngaahi 'Otua 'o Tonga. Pea mau fekau ai kinautolu ke nau kai honau fanga-'Otua ki he lahi taha, ke faifai pea nau 'osi. Fatai, kapau he'ikai te tau kai kinautolu, te nau siosio mai pea 'e fakatupu 'ita he te nau takaiholo kinautolu.....................hunuhunu

2010/1/25 Fatai Slender <fatais...@hotmail.com>

Fatai Slender

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Jan 26, 2010, 6:13:15 AM1/26/10
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Hunuhunu,
 
Malo e fakatalanoa mei he fu'u fonua lahi na. Vakai foki na'a ko ha palangi misinale ena ia mei Haiti ka ke tala 'e koe  ko e Oz. haha he he. 'Ofa atu ki he famili. Fatai
 

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:07:48 -0800
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Sell your old one fast! Time for a new car?

Ben Mysterymann

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Jan 26, 2010, 1:56:18 AM1/26/10
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nau hange kiateau kuo ke lau au koe kehe!! kuo ke lau au kuo ou siasi kehe!!!  ho'o last post... 'e hange ai pe ia koe kehe au he'eku ongo'i... ne'ine'i ke fokotu'u siasi kehe e kakai ia mei he kamata'anga...  luckily   he'ikai ke lava 'ehe kau taki ia 'oe ngaahi siasi 'o talaange ki he 'otua koe ha e me'a ke nau fai...   koe kau  hangatonu... 'oku 'ikai koe palopalema ia'o nau tolu koe palopalema ia 'oe kau tauhisipi...


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Nau

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Maloo 'aupito Misiteli e fakakohukohu. Kole fakamolemole atu na'a 'oku
ngali kuo u lau ko e kehe koe. Mole ke mama'o. Na'a ku pehee 'e au ko
koe na'a ke lau ko e kehe au. Ka neongo ia ko e anga pe 'o e
fakakohukohu ka 'oku tau taha pe. Ko hai 'a SUTT, ko hai 'a UMC, UCA,
NZ Metotisi, Ko hai 'a Fakahangatonu? Neongo 'oku lahi 'a e ngaahi
me'a'ofa ka 'oku taha pe 'a e Laumalie. Ko e felaafoaki 'oku tau fai
ni ko e penepena kupenga pe mo tali momo, he'ilo na'a too mai ha momo
mei he ngaahi vahevahe 'oku mou fai ke mau lave noa ai.

ofa moe lotu,
Nau Koka.

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