Ko e tukunga 'oku tau 'iai he taimi ni, kuo tuku pilisone'i 'a Selemaia 'i eh Palasi 'o Setekaia 'i he 'ene Palosisai 'e hamu 'a Selusalema 'e Papilone, pea ko hono hamu ena he 2 Tu.i 25.
Ko e pehe ke fakatau 'e Selemaia 'ae 'api hono first cousin, he koia hono koeli , 'oku 'asi e fakakaukau 'oe Koeli 'ia Livitiko 25... vs26.
Ko e me'a 'oku mahino kiate au, 'oku 'ikai fie ongo 'ae Tu'i ko Setekaia ki he Folofola 'ae 'Otua ha tokoni 'e taha 'ene pilisone'i 'a Selemaia ki honau haveki 'e he Tu'i Papilone.
Ko e fakakaukau 'o e Koeli, mahino 'e toe foki mai pe ki he 'api moe Kolo ne tokonaki 'e Sihova pea palomesi kia 'Epalahame mo e kau peteliake.
Fakapulia ko e 'ene'i atu pe kemou 'aa aa he kuo Monite.
takamuli.
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> Tevita Tuitupou <tevita....@rfb.to> wrote:
>
> Kataki pe kau tasilisili
> Koe Lesoni koe Saame 91:1-6,14-16
> Selemaia 32:1-3,6-15
> 1Timote6:6-19
> Luke16:19-31
> Mou kataki koe ha pe ha Lesoni 'e fai mai ai ha tokoni teu lau pe koe
> tapuaki
>
>
> Malo,
>
>
>
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takamuli.
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> Hunu Hunu <hunu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Malo e fakatalanoa:
> 'E Soakai, 'oku fakaloloma e hoko e ngaahi me'a koia ki he si'i kakai
> koia.
> 'Oku hange pe fakalongolongo ia 'a e Taki ko e fakalongolongo 'a e taha
> 'o e
> kau taki 'i 'Amelika, he ne toki hoko hake pe ia 'o taki ka na'e fou mai
> ia
> he hala koia ia pea ne si'i fihia pe mo ia he me'a tatau.
> Taha 'o e 'uhinga lahi 'o e fakalongo 'a e taki he 'oku 'ikai ngata pe
> he
> maumau faka molale ki he siasi, ka 'oku 'iai e move faka politikale ia
> ai.
> Hili pe hono fakaikai'i 'e he Tu'i tapu e feinga e siasi ke mali e kau
> patele, kuo nau 'ohake leva e ngaahi me'a fakalilifu koia ke teke 'aki
> ha
> fa'ahinga liliu.
> Ko e keisi ko 'eni 'oku toki 'ohake pe ia 'e he kakai kuo nau 'osi ta'u
> 30 -
> 40 tupu, tokua na'e pa'usi'i kinautolu kei si'i. Ko e ha ne nau longo
> fuoloa
> pehee ai. 'Oku longo e Tu'itapu ko e 'uhi he 'oku 'ikai loto ia ke mali
> e
> kau patele.... ko e anga pe faka talanoa...hunuhunu
>
>
> 2010/9/20 Tevita Langi <tlan...@gmail.com>
Hunu
'Oku lau mano 'a e kakai 'oku tafoki 'o Katolika 'ihe ta'u kotoa, kau ai moe kau faifekau Protestants, kau taki lotu lalahi, 'o a'u kihe kau faifekau meihe siasi 'Ingilani. Kuo 'osi tali ke ngaue 'aki 'a e kau faifekau 'Ingilani kihe ngaue fakapatele 'ihe Katolika.
daphne
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Takamuli
Poupou atu, 'oku sai hono raise 'a e 'awareness' kihe ngaahi issues felave 'i moe kau patele ka 'oku 'ikai koe patele kotoa pe 'oku 'child abuse', pea 'oku 'ikai ke haohaoa 'a e faifekau 'protestant' kotoa.
Sami, log on kihe website 'ae Vatican 'oku lolotonga 'acknowledge' 'ehe Katolika 'a e palopalema ko 'ena na'amou lau ki ai. 'Oku mahino foki 'ihe Katolika 'ene hoko ' ae ngaahi palopalema na'amou talanoa ki ai ko 'enau tokolahi ange fau honau kau memipa. 'Oku hoko 'a e palopalema ko ia 'ihe tapa kotoa, 'o a'u pe 'eni kihe kau fakamaau lao (judges) 'oku kei hoko pe ai.
'Oku 'ikai koha me'a ia ke tau sio kovi ai kihe Katolika he ko 'etau tukuhifo ai pe 'e kitautolu 'a e 'christianity'. Ko hono 'neglect' 'ehe kau faifekau/patele honau fatongia koe kovi fakafo'ituitui, taumaiaa na'e teke kinautolu 'ehe Pope kihe ngaahi kovi ko ia, pea 'e kau atu ai pe moe toonounou 'ae 'training'. 'Oku totonu ketau mahino'i 'oku 'iai 'a e ngaahi 'cases' 'i 'Amelika kuo 'osi fakatotolo'i 'o 'ilo, ta koe fiema'u pa'anga 'a e fa'ahinga ko ia. Kaikehe, ko 'eku tui koe ki'i peseti pe 'e 1 pe si'isi'i hifo ai 'o e kau patele na'anau ngaue hala 'aki honau fatongia 'oku lolotonga fakatotolo'i 'a e ni'ihi.
'Oku sai ke fakakauatu hono ngaue 'aki 'a e ivi ki hono taukapo'i 'a e kovi 'o e 'child labor' moe 'child abuse' 'ihe Islam 'i hono fakamali'i 'a e fanau 'oku nau kei ta'u hongofulu tupu si'i, kau atu ai mo hono abuse 'ae kakai fefine. Fefe 'a Tonga, toe fakalilifu ange 'a e 'child abuse'.
Kapau leva kuo kovi 'a e Katolika, 'oku totonu ke 'oua na'a toe hanga 'eha 'apiako tohitapu 'o ngaue 'aki 'a e kau patele 'oku Katolika ki hono faiako'i 'a e teolosia kihe kau faifekau 'a e protestant. Kapau leva 'oku sai pe 'a e Katolika ka koe kovi fakafo'ituitui pea malo ia.
daphne
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Ko e keisi ko 'eni 'oku toki 'ohake pe ia 'e he kakai kuo nau 'osi ta'u 30 - 40 tupu, tokua na'e pa'usi'i kinautolu kei si'i. Ko e ha ne nau longo fuoloa pehee ai. 'Oku longo e Tu'itapu ko e 'uhi he 'oku 'ikai loto ia ke mali e kau patele.... ko e anga pe faka talanoa...hunuhunu
Sami, ‘oku ai pe mo e kau patele kuo fakamaloloo’i mei he ngaue koe’uhi ko ha’anau fakavalevale pe ko ha’anau malanga’i ha tokateline hala (ex-communicate kinautolu koe’uhi ko ‘enau heletiko/heretical). Pea ai mo e kau patele kuo nau “fakafisi melino” pe honau lakanga, ka nau foki ‘o hoko ko e “lay person” ‘i he siasi. ‘oku ai homau kaunga ngaue ne kau he fakafisi melino, pea kuo ma’u family ia he taimi ni
Ko e fehu’i lelei kuo ke fokotu’u, ka ko e taimi tatau ‘oku totonu ke tau fakatokanga’i e ngaahi tafatafa’aki
Ka ke kataki, ‘oku ‘ikai ala ma’u atu ha fakatalanoa fakafiemalie, ko e kauitalanoa atu pe mei he Kau Fanongo!
Ko e “Koeli” ‘e tatau nai mo ‘etau fakakaukau fakaTonga ki he “Leuleumafana” ... ko ha taha ‘oku hoko mai ke hamusi kita mei he li’ekina na’a te ‘i ai kimu’a. Ko e talanoa ‘o Lute, ne au e Koeli ka na’a ne tukuange hono fatongia ‘o fai ia ‘e Poasi. Pea hanga leva ‘e Poasi ‘o hamusi ‘a Lute ... pea kau mai ai mo Neomai
Ko e Koeli, ‘a e taha ‘oku ha’u ke veteange ha taha kuo popula pe pule-kehea, pea ‘e lava ke pehe ‘oku nau tokolahi pe: ko Mosese ki he kau Isileli ‘i Isipite, ko Sefita mo Samisoni ‘i hona taimi (neongo ko e ongo tama ne na fita’a), ko Poasi ... ko ha taha ‘oku ngaue ke veteange ‘a e ha’isia
Ko e kauitalanoa ai pe, jh
Ko e “Koeli” ‘e tatau nai mo ‘etau fakakaukau fakaTonga ki he “Leuleumafana” ... ko ha taha ‘oku hoko mai ke hamusi kita mei he li’ekina na’a te ‘i ai kimu’a. Ko e talanoa ‘o Lute, ne au e Koeli ka na’a ne tukuange hono fatongia ‘o fai ia ‘e Poasi. Pea hanga leva ‘e Poasi ‘o hamusi ‘a Lute ... pea kau mai ai mo Neomai
Ko e Koeli, ‘a e taha ‘oku ha’u ke veteange ha taha kuo popula pe pule-kehea, pea ‘e lava ke pehe ‘oku nau tokolahi pe: ko Mosese ki he kau Isileli ‘i Isipite, ko Sefita mo Samisoni ‘i hona taimi (neongo ko e ongo tama ne na fita’a), ko Poasi ... ko ha taha ‘oku ngaue ke veteange ‘a e ha’isia
Ko e kauitalanoa ai pe, jh
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Malo mu’a e kei fkmou’i mai ‘e kavinga mahu’inga ni ‘oku lolotonga ninimo ai ‘a e siasi Katolika ‘i mamani. ‘Oku ‘i ai pe ‘a e norms/directions pe fkhinohino kuo ‘osi tufaki fkmamani ki he kakai ‘oe siasi kau ai ‘a e kau taki foki. Na’e tufaki ‘eni he 2001 he pastoral letter ‘a John Paul II. ‘Oku ngaue ‘aki ‘eni ‘e he ngaahi diocese kotoa pe ‘i mamani. ‘Oku toe ‘i ai pe mo e fktonutonu, fklelei pe monomono ki he ngaahi norms/directions ko ‘eni na’e tufaki he 2004. Toki hoko atu he kuo kamata ke momoko e ‘otu mounga ‘o Argentina. Akuila
Malo mu’a e kei fkmou’i mai ‘e kavinga mahu’inga ni ‘oku lolotonga ninimo ai ‘a e siasi Katolika ‘i mamani. ‘Oku ‘i ai pe ‘a e norms/directions pe fkhinohino kuo ‘osi tufaki fkmamani ki he kakai ‘oe siasi kau ai ‘a e kau taki foki. Na’e tufaki ‘eni he 2001 he pastoral letter ‘a John Paul II. ‘Oku ngaue ‘aki ‘eni ‘e he ngaahi diocese kotoa pe ‘i mamani. ‘Oku toe ‘i ai pe mo e fktonutonu, fklelei pe monomono ki he ngaahi norms/directions ko ‘eni na’e tufaki he 2004. Toki hoko atu he kuo kamata ke momoko e ‘otu mounga ‘o Argentina. Akuila
-----Original Message-----
From: tasil...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tasil...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Akuila Talia'uli
Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2010 9:17 PM
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tasilisili] Koe ha leva 'e me'a tetau Fai ?
Sami,Malo mu’a e kei fkmou’i mai ‘e kavinga mahu’inga ni ‘oku lolotonga ninimo ai ‘a e siasi Katolika ‘i mamani. ‘Oku ‘i ai pe ‘a e norms/directions pe fkhinohino kuo ‘osi tufaki fkmamani ki he kakai ‘oe siasi kau ai ‘a e kau taki foki. Na’e tufaki ‘eni he 2001 he pastoral letter ‘a John Paul II. ‘Oku ngaue ‘aki ‘eni ‘e he ngaahi diocese kotoa pe ‘i mamani. ‘Oku toe ‘i ai pe mo e fktonutonu, fklelei pe monomono ki he ngaahi norms/directions ko ‘eni na’e tufaki he 2004. Toki hoko atu he kuo kamata ke momoko e ‘otu mounga ‘o Argentina. Akuila
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Na'a tokoni atu pe mo ena ki ho'o malanga 'i he Sapate. 'Oku ou
hufekina atu ho'o malanga. Kataki 'ikai ke fakatokanga'i ho'o kole
kimu'a he ne fuoloa pe 'osi 'a e fakamatala na. Kae mahalo na'a sai
ena ia ki he devotionals pe ka ke toki fakaloloto'aki atu pe ho'o
poto'iva'inga ki he malaga.
'ofa atu.
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Ma'afu Palu
"Love endures all things" Saul of Tarsus d. AD 64.
Mai kotoa pe ki heni Ma'afau, he 'oku ou kei Ako Malanga pe au meiate kimoutolu ko ena 'oku mou malanga'i e Kosipeli Fakamo'ui.
Ko e si'i kole malanga mei hotau tokoua pe 'i 'api ni, ka 'oku te ma'u koloa ai pe , fakakoloa ha taimi kuo mou ma'u taimi ke 'omai ai hatau akonaki.
'ofa atu.
sepesi.
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> Maafu Palu <maafu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sepesi,
>
> Na'a tokoni atu pe mo ena ki ho'o malanga 'i he Sapate. 'Oku ou
> hufekina atu ho'o malanga. Kataki 'ikai ke fakatokanga'i ho'o kole
> kimu'a he ne fuoloa pe 'osi 'a e fakamatala na. Kae mahalo na'a sai
> ena ia ki he devotionals pe ka ke toki fakaloloto'aki atu pe ho'o
> poto'iva'inga ki he malaga.
>
> 'ofa atu.
>
> On 9/23/10, Sepesi H Piukala <sep...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > Malo muá e sií tokoni ki he sií kau teu malanga , ófa ke tokoni ai pe
> foki
> > kiate kimauotlu ko eni óku teu malanga atu pe ki he Sapate.
> >
> > Ko e toki akoako taipe eni , kei fokoutua pe í ápi teéki foki ki he
> ngaue,
> > talamai é he Hoa ko e fua eni óe inu kava , kuo u talaange tuku éne
> maú hala
> > he naáku toki foki mai mei he Gym he Poo Monite ó puke ai ko enii ha
> ha ha,
> > tapu áupito ia ke toe tukuakií e inu kava ee , malo pe muá siénau kei
> ófa
> > Épeli mo Sifa ee.
> >
> > takamuli.
> >
> >
> > Sepesi H. Piukala
> > Ph: +61401 590 917
> > Email: sep...@optusnet.com.au
> >
> > Exodus 2:6 Then he said, "I am the God of your Father, the God of
> Abraham,
> > the God of Issac and the God of Jacob."
> >
> *************************************************************************
> ***
> > *************************************************************
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tasil...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tasil...@googlegroups.com]
> On
> > --
> > 'Oku tufa atu e email ni koe'uhi 'oku kau ho tu'asila he memipa 'i he
> > "Tasilisili-he-ngaluope"
> > Ko e tu'asila ke 'ave ki ai ha'o email ki he Tasilisili ko e
> > tasil...@googlegroups.com
> > Ke to'o ho tu'asila mei he memipa ki he Tasilisili, email ki he
> > tasilisili-...@googlegroups.com
> > Pea ko e website 'a e Tasilisili ko e
> > http://groups.google.com/group/tasilisili
>
>
> --
> Ma'afu Palu
>
> "Love endures all things" Saul of Tarsus d. AD 64.
>
takamuli.
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> > **
> > **
> > *Sepesi H. Piukala*
> > *Ph: +61401 590 917*
> > *Email: sep...@optusnet.com.au*
> > **
> > *Exodus 2:6 Then he said, "I am the God of your Father, the God
> > of Abraham, the God of Issac and the God of Jacob."*
> > *
> >
> *************************************************************************
> ****************************************************************
> > *
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* tasil...@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:tasil...@googlegroups.com] *On
> > Behalf Of *'Akuila Talia'uli
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 September 2010 9:17 PM
> > *To:* tasil...@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* RE: [tasilisili] Koe ha leva 'e me'a tetau Fai ?
> >
> > Sami,
> >
> > Malo mu’a e kei fkmou’i mai ‘e kavinga mahu’inga ni ‘oku lolotonga
> ninimo
> > ai ‘a e siasi Katolika ‘i mamani. ‘Oku ‘i ai pe ‘a e norms/directions
> pe
> > fkhinohino kuo ‘osi tufaki fkmamani ki he kakai ‘oe siasi kau ai ‘a e
> kau
> > taki foki. Na’e tufaki ‘eni he 2001 he pastoral letter ‘a John Paul
> II. ‘Oku
> > ngaue ‘aki ‘eni ‘e he ngaahi diocese kotoa pe ‘i mamani. ‘Oku toe ‘i
> ai pe
> > mo e fktonutonu, fklelei pe monomono ki he ngaahi norms/directions ko
> ‘eni
> > na’e tufaki he 2004. Toki hoko atu he kuo kamata ke momoko e ‘otu
> mounga ‘o
> > Argentina. Akuila
> >
Hahahahaha Takamuli ‘admit’ kuo ke popo!!!
Malo mu’a hono tokongaekina ‘e kaveinga mahu’inga ni pea ‘oku totonu pe ke fai ha tokanga lahi ki ai ‘a e siasi both as an institution pea mo hono kau memipa pea moe taha kotoa. Kataki pe Sami kae tuku pe ke fai atu ha tokoni pea ‘ikai pea ‘inu’i pe ha fu’u ipu fonu ke fai mo ke ninimo. Kuo ‘osi fai pe ‘a e kole fkmolemole ‘a e Pope on behalf of the universal church he’ene ngaahi ‘a’ahi taki holo. Na’e fai ‘eni ‘i he’ene ‘uluaki misa he’ene ‘a’ahi ki USA pea pehe foki lolotonga ‘ene ‘i hena ‘i Aust he world youth day 2008 pea ‘i he ngaahi ‘aho kuo maliuatu ‘i Pilitania. Kuo ‘i ai pe foki mo e ngaahi directions (Norms) pe fkhinohino kuo tufaki fkmamani lahi fekau’aki mo e ngaahi founga ngaue ke fkhoko mo fkkakato ki he fktotolo internal pea moe fklao (external) ke fkpapau’i ‘a e malu’i ‘a e totonu ‘a e tokotaha ‘oku launga’i pea mo e tokotaha launga. Koe ngaahi directions/norms ko ‘eni na’e tufaki ia he 2001 he tohi fktuitapu (pastrol letter a John Paul II – “Norms concerning the most serious crimes”) ki he kotoa e kau taki pea mo e kakai ‘oe siasi. ‘Oku ‘i he fkhinohino ko eni ‘ae tutu’uni kapau kuo halaia ha patele ‘i he hia fkmala’ia ni (sexual abuse of minor) pea kuopau ke to’o kakato ‘a e mafai (faculty) ke ne fkhoko ‘a e ngaahi sakalameta (misa, kofesio, papi etc...) ‘a e siasi. Pea kuopau ke fkhoko ha ngaue kiate ia (councelling etc...) pea fkpapau'i ai mo e ngaahi ngaue pe tokoni ki he victim(s). Kuo ‘osi fkpapau’i ko e ngaahi keisi ko ‘eni ‘oku fkfo’i tuitui pe ka koe fehu’i, na’e hanga nai ‘e he system as a whole ‘o tokoni’i pe fkaiai ke fktupulekina ‘a e ngaahi hia fkmala’ia ni? Kuo ‘i ai ‘a e ngaahi fórum lahi kuo nau talanoa pe fekumi ki ha tali ki he fehu’i ni. Lahi e ngaahi palopalema he system kuo ‘ohake kau ai ‘a e issue of power, formation program ‘o e kau candidates ki he patele, administration of diocese/parish, etc... Ko e kamata atu pe kae kole kia Akuila kene toki fkkakato mai kae mahalo ‘oku lolotonga mo’ua atu ia he ‘otu mo’unga ‘o Argentina. |
Malo Semi ‘a e ma’u ongoongo pea ‘oku feinga ma’u pe ‘a e kau taki ‘o e Siasi ki he lelei fakalukufua. Ko e palopalema ‘oku ‘i he feitu’u kotoa pe. Ko e feinga ke fklelei ‘aki ha founga fakatauhisipi lelei. Ka ‘oku tau tui ‘oku ‘omi pe ‘ehe ‘Otua ha mahino pea fkfou mai ‘i he’ene kelesi ha nonga ke fkhoko’aki ‘a e ngaahi fklelei ni. Ko e pastoral care ‘oku mahu’inga. Malo e ngaue.
‘epeli
From: tasil...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tasil...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Semi
Sent: Wednesday, September 22,
2010 2:09 AM
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Koe ha
leva 'e me'a tetau Fai ?
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Malo mu’a hono tokongaekina ‘e kaveinga mahu’inga ni pea ‘oku totonu pe ke fai ha tokanga lahi ki ai ‘a e siasi both as an institution pea mo hono kau memipa pea moe taha kotoa. Kataki pe Sami kae tuku pe ke fai atu ha tokoni pea ‘ikai pea ‘inu’i pe ha fu’u ipu fonu ke fai mo ke ninimo. |
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