loka 'a pulela'a koaa

[Iki Pope]

Kataki Takamuli mo Light ‘o tuku mai ha fakaikiiki ki he talanoa ko eni kuo ongona mai mei he konitineniti kuo loka mo’oni pe ‘a pulela’aa.  Hangee ko e lea ‘oku takaa ko e lavea ‘a e kupu ‘e taha ‘oku kaungakafo ai pe ‘a e ngaahi kupu kehe ‘o e sino.  Pea ko e makatu’unga ia ‘a e fakahoha’aa.  Neongo ‘oku ‘ikai ke ngalo ‘a Pulela’aa ‘i he ‘etau lotuu ka kou tui ‘oku mahu’inga pe ke tau muimui ofi he me’a ‘oku hokoo. Koma pe.

[hingano pakileata]

iki

 

poupou atu  he 'oku tau ongo'i si'i kafo pea ko e me'a fakaloloma ia kapau ko e mo'oni e.

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Kataki Takamuli mo Light ‘o tuku mai ha fakaikiiki ki he talanoa ko eni kuo ongona mai mei he konitineniti kuo loka mo’oni pe ‘a pulela’aa.  Hangee ko e lea ‘oku takaa ko e lavea ‘a e kupu ‘e taha ‘oku kaungakafo ai pe ‘a e ngaahi kupu kehe ‘o e sino.  Pea ko e makatu’unga ia ‘a e fakahoha’aa.  Neongo ‘oku ‘ikai ke ngalo ‘a Pulela’aa ‘i he ‘etau lotuu ka kou tui ‘oku mahu’inga pe ke tau muimui ofi he me’a ‘oku hokoo. Koma pe.

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[Taniela Moala]

Neu fanongo talanoa he 'emau ki'i motu'a na'e toki folau mai mei 'Aositelelia he'emau ki'i putu, ko e mo'oni 'oku loka ma'u pe 'a Pulela'a ia telia e ngaahi koloa 'oku 'i loto na'a mole. Ko 'ene tuku pe koaa 'enau ma'u'anga kelesi pea 'oku tatapuni leva 'e he setuata fale 'a e falelotu 'o loka telia na'a kaiha'asi tokua 'enau koloa 'oku 'o loto. Kae hei'ilo ..

 

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[Daphne Taukolonga]

Kavauhi 'oku ou 'ofa atu kiate koe, pea ke kataki 'oua 'e toe tuku hono 'omai 'ae vahevahe ki Tasilisili ni. 

 

Kou manatu au he mate 'a e si'isi'i taha 'ihe 'eku ki'i fanau 'i hono ta'u 10, peau pulia aipe mei mamani 'ihe mahina nai 'e 4, 'ikai pe teu toe fie 'asi kiha feitu'u, 'o a'u pe kihe 'eku ngaaue 'ikai tenau toe ongona au.  Na'aku pulia ai pe foki mei hoku lotofale.  Koe fakafehu'i na'aku nofo mo ia 'ihe mahina ko ia 'e 4, why me God? why not others? why do you love me that much to take away my child?  why why why.

 

Na'aku fakatokanga'i leva kuo 'osi fakamo'oni kakato hoku loto mo hoku 'atamai kihe 'ofa'i au 'ehe 'Otua, pea mahino ai kiate au, koe fehu'i hala 'a e 'why'. All I have to do, is to go with the flow. Sometimes, it is appropriate not to ask questions, but to enjoy the Grace and Presence of God deep down in our souls.  Isn't His Presence in our lives every second is enough? how can we see it? how can we believe? 

 

ofa lahi atu kia koe Kavauhi, Mele moe fanau 'ihe fakahoko fatongia ma'ae kainga 'o Pulela'a moe SUTT 'o 'Aositelelia.

 

daphne

koho kaunga fononga pilikimi.    

[Maama Tupa]

Koe mo'oni kuo loka it is a court order execution pe ia...me'apango pe ko 'eku tali 'ae insovelncy in nsw lol pea mo ‘eku tui kihe fkmatala ongo v/admin he koe tu’utu’uni fakafaamu’anga ia..pea koe picked ‘ehe SMH ‘ae case ‘a Pulela’a mei falehopo…
koe me'a na'e hoko na'e voluntary administration 'a Pulela'a hange koe report ne o hake heni...wen an organisation is in voluntary administration...'oku 'uhinga 'oku out of their hands...ka ‘oku ‘i ai pe ngaahi benefit te nau ma’u lolotonga ‘ae process ‘ae ngaaue hange koe not immediately close down ‘ae church etc….kau ai members of a solvent org can appoint an insolvency expert to deal with the orderly wind down of organization assets....
koe me'a na'e ki'i fuoloa ai 'ae case koe proposal koe 'ae v/adminstration na'e 'ikai ke tali ia 'ehe kau creditors pea koe me'a ia na'a nau toe foki ai kihe court....

'oku tu'uaki fakatau he kautaha ko 'ena mou fetu'utaki o piti mai ki ai...na'a ma'u 'e ha kau mosilemi ee.

FOR  SALE
KNIGHT FRANK
offcie:0297611800
email:kinghtfrank.com.au/605737

Richard Garlnd 0412630530

Neu interested pe au heni koe ‘uhi he ne ‘ikai keu tui au ‘e lava ke tanaki ‘ehe kau tonga kotoa ‘i Aust ha $10millions in 5years…talu mei he ‘aho na’e fkava ai mo ‘eku ‘eke pe ‘oku anga fefe ‘ae m’au’anga $$$ ‘ae kakai….ongo’i pe ‘oku totonu ke clarify ke mahino he tau mai a ‘e lava ha toko5 Tonga ‘o li taki $200,000 every yr….thts a huge amount of money for a Tongan family in Aust…Pea ko au pe neu fuofua fehu’ia he internet kau ai ‘eni koe ‘uhi koe ta’emahino ‘ae founga ma'uanga in general $$$ in a very distrustful way etc…

I could b wrong... anyway a BIG Fank U and Malo...

 

[Sitiveni]

'Oku faingofua 'aupito kia kitautolu ke tau talanoa'i e si'i
palopalema 'oku hoko ki Pulela'a, ka e hili ko ia 'oku 'ikai ke 'i ai
ha'ane 'aonga e taha. 'E 'aonga ange ke tau lotua kinautolu.

Nonga 'a e 'Eiki

[Sami Pakofe]

hhhhhhhhhhh , 'Ahau malo mu'a 'etau lava ... Ihe Piliosne oku
Tokolahi atu ekau Faifekau moe si'i kau Taki Lotu oku 'oo ange koe
tokoni mo fakaha kihe kau popula 'ae kei manatua kinautolu ihe ngaahi
Lotu Fakafamili, Fakataautaha moe fakasiasi,,, ka oku hange ia ha
fakaoli kihe huu atu he matapa koee 'ae popula 'o te'eki ke'osi e 'aho
e fiha 'i tu'a'aa kuo toe foki mai...

Oku ikai teu fu'u mahino'i pau 'e au kihe Hufia, ta'e fai hangaue (
fakalao, fakasosiale, faka'ako-faka'atamai, ) koe ngaahi Tokoni koia
kanau ka oo fakataha pea e fai poupoua................. koe meimei
ta'u 'eni e 5, moe uki e lotu hufia ki Pulela'a, oku ikai pe 'aonga,
kapau oku ikai Tokanga mai e kau Taki ia kenau ki'ii Kole
Fakafolomemole kihe kakai pea koe haa ai ha'a tau toe lOtu e
fai,,,,,,,,, koe ola 'etau Lotu kapau oku nau " tali ", pea " liliu
"..

Kataki pe 'Ahau, mahalo koe 'atunga ia e nofo he feitu'uni, ka kuou
siofia e fofonga 'oe 'Eiki ihe 'api ni, he kuo hoko e LOTU KOE
FATONGIA FAKAPULE'ANGA ka oku ikai koha Fatongia FAKAPALOFITA,,, koe
'uhi he oku fai 'ae fatongia lotu 'o hange pe koe ngaahi position
kehe, ihe mu'omu'a ke ma'u ha mei sipi kihe Famili, pea koe mo'oni ia,
ka kiate au, Koha taha kuo ne hoko koe Fakfofonga 'o Kalaisi ke
matu'aki FakaPalofita ( Fakaongo kia Sihova )..

Koia 'ae 'uhinga kuou veivei ua au ia he 'asi mai pe faingata'a , kuo
tau 'uluaki pehee pe , "Tau Hufia " ,KIATE AU TAU 'ULUAKI TOKONI'I
KINAUTOLU , ihe Faka'atamai, faka-palofita, faka'ulungaanga, pea tau
toki hufia aipe ...

Koe faingata'a'ia lahi taha ia kuo 'asi hake he Siasi Uesiliana i Muli
ni,,,,,, koe ikai 'ai eme'a koee oku mu'omu'a mo pau ke fai, kae toki
fai e Lotu hufia.

( si'i mahalo 'e au Veni, na'a kuo hala koaa e fotunga lotu oku tau
fai, na'a koe me'a ia oku ikai 'aonga ai,,, kuo manatu kihe 'emau
lotu 'i Falekalapu, lotu e tokotaha lotu pea fu'u fuoloa, 'a'a hake
kinautolu kuo 'osi e tamaiki ia kitu'a,, pehee mai etama ia e taha
,,koe lOtu ke 'alu hanga tonu ki langi, pea kapau 'oku lolotonga heka
atu ia he pasi ,,,, pea tetau fefee ai... hhhhhhhhhhhh)


koe anga pe vakai masi'i 'Ahau,, meihe feitu'u la'aa ni, kae mahalo
na'a oku nau kehekehe pe .. pea kataki...

sami.

[Sifa Hingano]

Mahalo Sam koho 'uhinga ke fakasi'i'ii e lotu kuikui kae fakalahilahi e
lotu 'a'a mo alaala holo. sh

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Pastor, Genesis UMC
San Jose

[Sitiveni]

Hhheehehe, fkongo mo potu'ihuo koeha kuo mo pehe ai moua, hhhhh, ko e
uki ketau lotua ke mole atu ai hotau taimi pea ke hanga e he lotu ko
ia ko fkmanatu mai ke fksi'isi'i hotau taimi oku tau talanoa'i ai a
si'i pulela'a i faleni katau o atu o fai ha tokoni kiate kinautolu,
hhhhhhhhh. Malo 'aupito e fietokoni ia ka he'ikai lava ha tokoni kapau
ko ee oku tau ki'i lahilahi mo'ua pe ki hono talanoa'i a pulela'a i
faleni. Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Sai e pula'anga ia he oku nau ivi lahi
nautolu ke tokoni, ka kitautolu koetau mea pe lava ko e tangi kia
sihova ke tokoni. Fefe ia? Hehehe

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[Tevita Langi]

Poupou Veni-tau 'alu ai....... tuku aaa totonu mo mo'oni ke 'a e 'Otua ia, kae fai pe ho'otautolu fatongia totonu-ko e lotu.

malo mo e lotu (neongo 'ene kovi)

tlangi

[Fatai Slender]

Mou lotu pe he 'oku ou tui 'e vave ni pe hano toe fakaava 'a Pulela'aa.
 

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Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:30:37 -0800
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Re: loka 'a pulela'a koaa
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Poupou Veni-tau 'alu ai....... tuku aaa totonu mo mo'oni ke 'a e 'Otua ia, kae fai pe ho'otautolu fatongia totonu-ko e lotu.

malo mo e lotu (neongo 'ene kovi)

tlangi

[Sepesi H. Piukala]

Malo Fatai,

 Poupou atu fai pe hotau fatongia totonu, ‘ae lotu,tuku pe ‘Otua ke ne toki fakaai ‘o ka ‘oku finangalo ki ai. Lotua e Faifekau Pule mo e Kaingalotu Uesiliana ke ‘oua na’a to’o ai ‘enau ‘amanaki mei he ‘Eiki ko Sisu Kalaisi, pea ‘oua na’a tuku ai ‘ae muimui mo e mateaki’I hono Huafa. ‘ofa atu. Takamuli

[sisilia tupou-thomas]

Kuo u malie'ia ho'omou feme'aa'aki he kaveinga, pea u pehee ke huu atu
ha ki'i kauitalanoa, he kuo fuoloa e pulia! Fakamalo atu Sitiveni
Faupula he toutou uki e lotu hufia si'otau kainga Uesiliana 'i
Pulela'aa. Malie'ia he fo'i 'aliaki 'a 'Atamai (Sami) 'o haa mahino
mai 'ene ngaahi a'usia 'i he feitu'u la'aa 'oku 'i ai. Pea u toe
malie'ia foki he ki'i brief reflection ''a e faifekau Genesis (Sifa
Hingano). Pea malo mu'a e e fakafehu'i & ngaahi tali kuo tau
fe'inasi'aki ai he paenga ni fekau'aki mo si'otau kainga 'i Pulela'aa.

Kuo u fanongo tonu he polepole 'a e kau faifekau & taki lotu toko
lahi, pea pehee ki he kau tui faka-Kalisitiane 'i hono "tali 'enau
lotu" 'o mo'ui tokua ha ni'ihi ne meimei 'osi e manava (tulou atu)! pe
ko ha case faingata'a pea nau ikuna, 'o pehee tokua ko e tali ia e
ngaaahi lotu! Pea ka 'i ai si'a mahaki (sick) kuo lotua kae tali pe
hono ui ma'oni'oni 'o'ona ia, pea 'ikai tokua ke mo'oni pe sai e lotu
ia 'a e faifekau pe takilotu, famili pe siasi na'e fai hono hufia! Ko
ia 'oku ou fakamalo atu ai heni kia koe Sitiveni he 'oku lahi 'etau
ngaahi himi 'oku uki mai ai ke tau lotu, hange ko e himi ko eni: "Lotu
kainga 'o 'oua e fiu, ko e 'Eiki 'e tali hu, 'oku ofi 'a ''Atonai
ho'omou kole ke fakaai!" Fakamanatu mai leva 'e he Kosipeli, "he 'ikai
ke kole 'e he foha ha ika, pea foaki ange 'e he tamai ha ngata.......
ha ma, pea foaki ange ha maka!" Fakamolemole, 'oku 'ikai 'uhinga eni
ia ki he tu'unga kuo a'u ki ai si'otau kainga Pulela'aa, ko e tali ia
e ngaaahi lotu! Hei'ilo! Ka 'oku fai hotau fakahinohino he
fononga'anga ni mei he Folofola. Tau manatu ki hono holoki e Temipale
'i Selusalema........'a e maka, papa, koloa, etc. And many
Hebrews/Jews would have asked, WHY? Hangee pe ko 'etau puputu'u mo
fehu'i'aki 'oku fai he ngaahi 'aho ni!

Na'a ku fa'a lave atu he kuohili, ki he masivesiva hotau matakali ha
ngaahi resources ke tokoni'i 'etau to'utupu 'oku te'eki ke nau a'u ki
he pilisone, pea mo e fa'ahinga kuo 'i pilisone kae toki 'ataa mai!
Pea hange kiate au ia kuo si'i fa'a taupalasiaa e kau faifekau mo
takillotu, 'o hangee 'oku 'ikai fe'unga e ngaahi nague fakalaumalie
kuo nau fai ke tokonia si'i fa'ahinga ni. Remember, we (faifekau) are
not the only ones to help & support these people! Ko e tahaa, ko 'eku
fehu'i, 'what has the Tongan community done to help ministers & church
leaders, to help/support these people'? Toe fehu'i hono ua, 'does
everyone listen to the prophetic voice of ministers & church leaders?
Fehu'i faka'osi, 'are the voices of ministers & church leaders
prophetic?

Have a peaceful Sunday afternoon everyone.

Sisilia
(Mt White, Ourimbah).

[Sami Pakofe]

Faifekau ( Sisilia) Malo etau lava pea malo e tau mo Central Coast,
pea oku fakafiefia kihe vakai atu oku 'iai e fakamanatu meiate
kimoutolu fekau'aki moe "fakatu'amelie " ihe lotu Hufia..9 Veni,
Fatai, takamuli pea pehe kihe kau Faifekau .............pea mou
fakamolemole pe, kapau kuo te hu'ekina ha tonounou , oku ikai kete
haohaoa, ka koe Fakalanga talanoa pe he tukunga 'oe ngaueue 'oe 'aho
ihe Loto Fale 'oe Sisai, pea kuote sio kihe kakai , kuo hange koee ha
"taungahone kuo mole honau taki ( queen), kuo kamata ke fai u'uu u'uu
e hone ( bee) koe 'uhi pe kuo pulia honau takai ...

ka mou fakamolemole pe, kae tuku pe keu hoko atu 'ae Potalanoa...

Oku 'iai 'eku fehu'ii pe , Kau Faifekau kae 'uma 'aa Moutolu oku mou
taukave'ii ketau lotu Hufia ...

1. Koe ha e Kaveinga 'o 'etau Lotu Hufia ki Pulela'aa...?

2. Ko'etau LOtu HUfia ma'ae Kakai 'oe Siasi pe koe kau Faifekau oku
nau taki he Siasi ni ?

Ko'eku fehu'ii pe,, he na'e hange kiate au, na'e 'iai e "
tonounou-fakakakano mo fakalaumalie " [ ta'e maau ] i Pulela'aa, pea
kapau koiaa, koe ha oku tau lotu ai " ma'ae -Tonounou Faka-kakano
ko'eni".. ? Kuo mou Fakapapau'ii kuo 'osi faito'o, pe kuo 'osi lea mai
e kau taki oku nau fehalaaki , ke tupunga mei ai ha'a tau Lotu ? pe
ko'etau lotu pe 'atutolu , "koe fo'i me'a fakatonga ko'eni koe
Hufia'iiii.....

Fefee ketau Lotu ma'ae tokotaha koee tene owner oka fakatau, ke
faka-afea hono loto 'o 'oange pe 'ae 'api ko Pulela'aa ma'ae Sutt ? 'e
fefee ia ?

Koe Fakakaukau, ke hange kohono hanga 'e Sihova 'oNgaue'aki 'a
Papilone ke haveki 'a Selusalema( he na'e ta'e maau fakalaumalie ),
pea ne ngaue'aki pe kinautolu kihono langa hake ..

Kae 'oua tetau toe lotu kitautolu " ma'ae " ta'e maau "... he koe
'uhinga ia oku Fakatau ai, koe ngaue 'ae To nounou Fakalaumalie"..

Kau Tasilisili, oku ikai pe ke 'iai ha Loto fie Fakatokilalo hifo 'oe
kau tangata nenau fai e me'a kovi maa' ekakai 'o Pulelala'a, Oku nau
kei tu'u kavekave a'u pe oku nau tonu hia ?.

Oku ou 'ofa moau he kakai Pulela'aa, ka oku ikai teu 'ofa tu'unga au
ke " amo-amo " kinautolu oku nau taki kovi'ii e kakai...

Kuou tui kihe Lotu mohono IVI pea oku kei MAFIMAFI pe 'ae Pule aoniu
'a Sihova, ka 'oka tau fai e Lotu 'o ikai fai iha Tu'unga lelei,, pea
kuou tui leva e hange lotu ia ha va'a mei viviku,,,Oku totonu ketau
Ngaue'aki elOtu ihe me'a oku Totonu, HE KOE LoTU KOE " haohaoa, ma'a
mo Fakanonga, pea ka ikai ketau ngauea'ki lelei, pea mo'oni tetau hee,
ihe fononga'anga..

Oku ikai koe fai 'eni ihe taufehi'a, ka koe koe uki ketau "tala "
kiatekinautolu koe "LOTU MO'ONI " moe LOTU LELEI ". 'ae LOTU NA'E HA'U
MO SISU , kae ikai koe lOtu koee oku fakangalingali Sisu.. he kohono
ola koe holofa moe vakeee..

Pea ka faifaiange kuo ola ho'omou lotu, pea tau fakafeta'i kotoa pe
ai, pea ka hoko koe koto'atunga-lau, tonu ketau toe kofesio
ai....hhhhhhhhhh

Mou kataki, fakamaama mai au he koe 'atunga ia 'eku fakapo'uli ,,,,pea
vakai na'a mou talatuki'ii au kau faifekau, he ko'etau potalanoa pe
'eni, kihe lelei ka oku ikai koha potalanoa kiha kovi..

"tau fakatauange kotoa pe, ketau fevahevahe'aki hotau ngaahi mafasia,
lolotonga oku tau kei nonofo ihe " Malu lelei 'oe Afiona 'Eiki ...

sami.

[Sitiveni]

Hhhhhh, fkongo he ikai talatuki'i koe ia ha'a faifekau koeuhi
tekemtu'umalie koe ai. Hhhhhh. Koe lao foki oku ne tu'tu'uni 'e ia ke
fkmaau'i. Ka ko e kelesi 'a e 'otua oku tangi ia mo kole ke
fkmolemole'i mu'a. Hhhhhhh. Tau lotu pe ke hili kotoa atu 'a e
mafasia, loto mamahi, mo e fehalaaki, mo e tonounou, mo e ngaahi me'a
kotoa 'oku fufu he lilo ki he Kolosi o kalaisi he oku ne mafeia e ia
ke fai ai hotau fkfo'ou pea fkivia ketau laka atu i ha mo'ui 'oku
fo'ou.

Nonga 'a e 'Eiki.

> > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Fatai Slender <fataislen...@hotmail.com>

> > wrote:
> >> Mou lotu pe he 'oku ou tui 'e vave ni pe hano toe fakaava 'a Pulela'aa.
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> >> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:30:37 -0800
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[Sami Pakofe]

Malo Veni,,, ta koe me'a ke Fakangalo'ii 'etautolu 'ae me'a oku hoko,
tukuange pe kihe kau Fakamaau kenau Fakamaau mo Fakama'opo'opo ,,

Katau Lotu tautolu 'o Kolea ha Fakamolemole moha " Feohi " oku mo'oni
mo totonu ee, Veni malo e Potalanoa mai ,,, ka oku ke pehee 'e fefe
nai ha taha ia ,oku ikai pe tene tali 'e ia ha Fakafiemalie meihe
'etau Lotu, ,, tuku ai pe moia ia kiate iaa, ko'ene ta'e tali moe tali
koe me'a ia 'a'ana,,, hhhhhhhhhh

Kamata lelei hotau uike,,," koe tukuange me'a kotoa pe kia Sihova moe
Fakamaau " katau lotu kitautolu eee,,,,,,, "Ahau, vakai na'a lotu
kuitaha ha taha he koe va'inga ia... hhhhh

poupou atu kihe fakamaama oku fai mai....

sami.

[sisilia tupou-thomas]

'Atamai, hangee ko e lau, "ko ho'o vevela na kuo u ongo'i, he kuo u
mo'ua ai foki!" 'Oku mahino ngofua e me'a 'oku ke mamahi'i, he
taumaia 'oku tau loto & fakakaukau tatau mo e kakai he ngaahi siakale
kehekehe. Tahaa foki ko 'etau potalanoa ni na'e 'ikai ke tafe hatau
pupuha pe lo'ifofonga hano feinga'i e pa'anga na'e langa'aki 'a
Pulela'aa, he 'e kehekehe pe 'etau ongo'i mo e ongo'i si'i kainga ne
'osikiavelenga hono feinga'i e fu'u 'api & hono naunau. Kae hangee ko
'eku ki'i akonaki ki he motu'a na'e ha'u ko e fiema'u fale'i he'ene
'ita ha faifekau. Pea u talaange, "'Fefe ke ke 'alu pe koe 'o tokanga
taha ki ho'o lotu, he tahaa ko ho'o lotu ki he faifekau, ko ho'o lotu
'a'au ia kia Sihova! Tukuange 'e koe e faifekau kapau kuo fehalaaki
ha'ane founga/to'onga, he 'oku taliui ia ki he taha kehe!" 'Ikai
'uhinga eni ke fakakuikui'i (tulou) e fehalaaki, kae fou he founga 'o
e alea 'a e siasi taki taha, 'o tala ai hoto loto kapau kuo te mamahi
ha me'a kuo ngali fehalaaki, ke ngali ko e kakai lotu! Pea kapau kuo
'ikai tokanga atu ha taha ki ho'o loto mamahi, ha'u aa ke tau kaungaa
tekina he "vahanoa" (ha!ha!ha!)
'Ofa atu,
Sisilia.


2013/2/17 Sami Pakofe <smpa...@gmail.com>:

[Faka'osi Maama]

'E lava ko e tali eni e lotu hufia e me'a 'oku hoko ?

Niuleka

2013/2/17 sisilia tupou-thomas <sisili...@gmail.com>

[Kalolo Fihaki]

Kuo TALI LOTU 'a e 'Eiki.... Fakafeta'i 'Eiki, kuo ke fakatau'ataina 'a e popula (SUTT, UCA, Metotisi mo e Tonga kotoa pe 'i mamani) You have given a "peace of mind" to all. "Greatness is not achieved by never falling but by rising each time we fall." (Confucius 551-479 BCE).
K Fihaki (Fuakava Ta'engata 'o Kenani, Otahuhu)

[Tevita Finau]

Ko e taha 'ena e founga 'oku fokotu'u mai 'e SKF pea malo ia he 'oku fai pe hono lotua. Ne u fokotu'u atu 'e au ha ki'i founga 'e taha ki mu'a atu ke 'omai e bank account ke tau lotu pe mo fakahu atu kiai ha ki'i tulutaa. 'Oua te tau toe moloki hotau ng kaungafononga 'oku to ki he faingata'a. Ka 'oku matamata 'oku 'ikai fika 'uluaki e mo'ua ia 'i fakafehoanaki mo e 'u me'a 'oku hoko. Fakamolemole ka 'oku saliote maumau e hu atu ia ko eni. tfinau 

2013/2/18 Kalolo Fihaki <Kalolo...@mpia.govt.nz>

[David Ofahengaue]

Poupou atu kiai faifekau. DO --- On Sun, 2/17/13, Tevita Finau <tfi...@gmail.com> wrote:

[afim...@gmail.com]

Malo 'a e lelei 'a e kau memipa ...........

Kaunga poupou atu ki he Kakai Mateaki he Siasi si'o mou taliangi
kakato, 'ukuma mo e naunau kakato e "fakaongo" ......
'ofeina si'omou fanau ....... MALO E KATAKI LAHI !!!!.

'Ofa atu

On Feb 18, 2:16 pm, David Ofahengaue <ofaheng...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Poupou atu kiai faifekau. DO
>
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>
> From: Tevita Finau <tfi...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Re: loka 'a pulela'a koaa
> To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 17, 2013, 1:24 PM
>
> Ko e taha 'ena e founga 'oku fokotu'u mai 'e SKF pea malo ia he 'oku fai pe hono lotua. Ne u fokotu'u atu 'e au ha ki'i founga 'e taha ki mu'a atu ke 'omai e bank account ke tau lotu pe mo fakahu atu kiai ha ki'i tulutaa. 'Oua te tau toe moloki hotau ng kaungafononga 'oku to ki he faingata'a. Ka 'oku matamata 'oku 'ikai fika 'uluaki e mo'ua ia 'i fakafehoanaki mo e 'u me'a 'oku hoko. Fakamolemole ka 'oku saliote maumau e hu atu ia ko eni. tfinau
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> 2013/2/18 Kalolo Fihaki <Kalolo.Fih...@mpia.govt.nz>

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[seni taniela]

Tevita Finau <tfi...@gmail.com

Ko e taha 'ena e founga 'oku fokotu'u mai 'e SKF pea malo ia he 'oku fai pe hono lotua. Ne u fokotu'u atu 'e au ha ki'i founga 'e taha ki mu'a atu ke 'omai e bank account ke tau lotu pe mo fakahu atu kiai ha ki'i tulutaa. 'Oua te tau toe moloki hotau ng kaungafononga 'oku to ki he faingata'a. Ka 'oku matamata 'oku 'ikai fika 'uluaki e mo'ua ia 'i fakafehoanaki mo e 'u me'a 'oku hoko. Fakamolemole ka 'oku saliote maumau e hu atu ia ko eni. tfinau

===================================================

TFinau

Malo e tau mo e le'o mei hena.

I he ta'u kuo hilii lolotonga etau lau ki Pulela'aa na'a ku fokotu'u atu ke fefee ke tau katoa a e Tonga SUTT katoa i mamani ke feinga'i ke tokoni'i e siasi ni mo e fakamaa e sino hotau Fakamo'uii pea telia na'a ai ha ngaahi laumalie etau fanau nofo muli he siasi ni e hoko e mole enau falelotu ko ha me'a ia ke nau tafoki ai mei he 'Otuaa.

Ko e tu'u he taimi nii hangehangee oku ou ngali tui au kia Samii

He kapau e toe foki atu e fu'u falelotu hongofulu milionaa e pehee ni leva e talanoaa.  "Mou sio ki Pulela'aa...tau hoko atu pee langa falelotu milionaa, taa mo'ua ka tau toki hufia'i he oku mana pee a Sihova." 

Na'a kuo folofola mai a Sihova, "Mou lau e article a Dr Puloka he Tohi Fanongonogo o Sanualii...pea oua e lau e mole e milionaa he i Heeku pangikee  oku faingofua tatau pee a e ma'u atu e tola e hongofuluu mo e tola e hongofulu milionaa...tuku ena ke hoko ko e ten million dollar learning experience ke fai mei ha ako.  Ka mou fai e me'a oku tokanga mai a Dr Pulokaa ke fika uluaki ia, kau toki oatu e Au ha fale miliona peau teU fua e Au hono mamafaa ka a kimoutolu hono ma'ama'aa!!"  Neu fanongo anepoo he faikava homau apisiasii oku talanoa'i mai ne toki mole ni falelotu e kaingalotu Tonga UMC kaunga'api o Sifa mo DNiu i Kalefoniaa...mahalo pe ne toonounou enau hufiaa

Mahalo na'a oku tonu ke tau lotu aa ke hoko mai a e Kelesi Faknonga  aia oku ope atu he tatae e atamai e kakai kotoa pee ke ne malu'i e loto e kainga lotu ni 'ia Kalaisi Sisu pea ke 'oua na'a mole ta'e'aonga 'a e fu'u lesoni mahu'inga tola e lauimiliona ko eni kuo tau ako mei he kau taki fakalaumalie e si'i kaingalotu ko enii.

Neongo ne ikai mole ha'ate peni he falelotu ni ka ko e ripple effect etau faikovi'i e lotu SUTT o tatau pee pe ko e fee ha fonua oku tau iai pe i Tonga pee i Afikanisitani  'e tuku mai a Satuna mo Poluto a e a'u ki hono hono nunu'aa pea e laulau toutangata.

[Tevita Finau]

'Io poupou atu Seni. Ko e fakakaukau lelei kotoa pe 'oku 'aonga mo fakamanavahake., pea 'oku talamai foki 'oku 'ikai hatau mo'ua ka ke fai 'ofa pe. Pea 'i he taimi tatau he'ikai fakatonuhia ai 'a e faihala pe ta'efaitotonu 'okapau ne 'iai ha me'a pehee. "Ofa atu, tfinau    

[Tevita Langi]

Ke tau lotu,

'Eiki Lelei, taapuaki mai a Pulela'a mo e kakai kotoa pe 'oku fakakaukau, talanoa, mo 'ofa/ta'e'ofa kiate kianutolu. Ka mau fefua'aki homau ngaahi MAFASIA'ANGA.

                                          'Emeni.

[Tevita Finau]

'Emeni.

2013/2/19 Tevita Langi <tlan...@gmail.com>

Ke tau lotu,

'Eiki Lelei, taapuaki mai a Pulela'a mo e kakai kotoa pe 'oku fakakaukau, talanoa, mo 'ofa/ta'e'ofa kiate kianutolu. Ka mau fefua'aki homau ngaahi MAFASIA'ANGA.

                                          'Emeni.

[Sione M. Veituna]

Malo TFinau mo TiLangi e lotu! Moóni e punake koee, ko e aalonga pe e haa kotoa pe á mui. ofa atu ki he kainga ó e Siasi í Aositeleia katoa!

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From: Tevita Finau <tfi...@gmail.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:28 AM

Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Re: loka 'a pulela'a koaa

[Sione M. Veituna]

Poupou lahi TFinau,

moe lotu
Maánanga

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From: Tevita Finau <tfi...@gmail.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:02 PM

Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Re: loka 'a pulela'a koaa

[Iki Pope]

Ko e lau mo’oni ia veituna pea mo’oni e punake ia; ka ko e fo’i lotu ko eni ‘a e ongo tii ‘e liliu e lau ia ‘a e punake ‘o peehee ko e ‘a’alonga pee kae hoko ia ki he alonga ‘i tonga ‘o toe tuaiange h h h h

[sep...@optusnet.com.au]

Malo Talatala, ko 'etau lotu ke mahino he'ikai mole 'ae faka'amanaki 'i he'enau mo'ui, ko ia 'ae ngafa 'oe fononga pilikimi. 'Oku 'ikai ke u lave'i pe ko e haa kuo 'ita pehe ai e kakai ,'oku 'ikai kenau kau pe memipa,'i Pulela'a ,he ngaue 'a Pulela'a ?

'OFa pe ke tokoni e 'OTua ki he kakai 'oku nau siokovi ki si'i Kainga ni , 'o 'oange ha loto fakamolemole pea kenau tafoki 'o 'ofa mo'oni 'i Pulela'a.

takamuli.

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Re: [tasilisili] Re: loka 'a pulela'a koaa

Malo TFinau mo TiLangi e lotu! Moóni e punake koee, ko e aalonga pe e haa kotoa pe á mui. ofa atu ki he kainga ó e Siasi í Aositeleia katoa!

From: Tevita Finau <tfi...@gmail.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Re: loka 'a pulela'a koaa

'Emeni.

2013/2/19 Tevita Langi <tlan...@gmail.com>

Ke tau lotu,

'Eiki Lelei, taapuaki mai a Pulela'a mo e kakai kotoa pe 'oku fakakaukau, talanoa, mo 'ofa/ta'e'ofa kiate kianutolu. Ka mau fefua'aki homau ngaahi MAFASIA'ANGA

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[kapetimalie]

.........'aia na'e 'ikai pe ai ha fkmatala $ ia 'e tufa pea 'atita'i??? pe na'e ai pe ia kae 'ikai ke siofi fklelei ke tatau e me'a ne lau moe me'a ku 'asi he pepa????....mani fk'ofa tama.....sai pe 'ai pe kalasi kehekehe 'oe lotu na faifai pea ai ha mana he koe ofi atu eni kihe pekia...

 

On Friday, February 15, 2013 10:36:24 AM UTC+13, mulikitonga wrote:

Kataki Takamuli mo Light ‘o tuku mai ha fakaikiiki ki he talanoa ko eni kuo ongona mai mei he konitineniti kuo loka mo’oni pe ‘a pulela’aa.  Hangee ko e lea ‘oku takaa ko e lavea ‘a e kupu ‘e taha ‘oku kaungakafo ai pe ‘a e ngaahi kupu kehe ‘o e sino.  Pea ko e makatu’unga ia ‘a e fakahoha’aa.  Neongo ‘oku ‘ikai ke ngalo ‘a Pulela’aa ‘i he ‘etau lotuu ka kou tui ‘oku mahu’inga pe ke tau muimui ofi he me’a ‘oku hokoo. Koma pe.

[maafu...@gmail.com]

Ke tau lotu,
'Eiki Lelei, taapuaki mai a Pulela'a mo e kakai kotoa pe 'oku fakakaukau,
talanoa, mo 'ofa/ta'e'ofa kiate kianutolu. Ka mau fefua'aki homau ngaahi

MAFASIA'ANGA.
Ti, 'Iki, Singa, Kuti, Lone, TFinau mo kimoutolu 'etau kau tasilisili NZ, 'oku ai e konifelenisi ako kihe teu malanga 'oku fai atu ki hena i Epeleli, ke fkhoko atu ki homou kau mlnga, kae toki 'atu hano fkikiiki. Si'oto'ofaatu.

[Tevita Langi]

poupou Ma'afu-toki hooni mai. Fefe hotau 'api 'ofa'anga??

[maafu...@gmail.com]

poupou Ma'afu-toki hooni mai. Fefe hotau 'api 'ofa'anga??

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Ti, fk'ofo'ofa 'aupito pe hotau 'api, tokolahi e ta'u ni, 245.

[kuli fisi'iahi]

Malo Ma'afu, ko e faingamalie hounga ia. 'E fakaongo leva na'a 'i ai ha taha 'e fie afea 'a e faingamalie. Malo.

 

Kuti

2013/2/19 <maafu...@gmail.com>

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[Sami Pakofe]

Teu toki ' oatu ha potalanoa fkfiefia.  ,,,,,kae 'oualeva ke tuku e huomanioke ni.

On Tuesday, February 19, 2013, Tevita Langi <tlan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> poupou Ma'afu-toki hooni mai. Fefe hotau 'api 'ofa'anga??
>

[Sitiveni]

Koeha ko aa kuo pehe ai a Fkongo ia! lolol! Kou kau au ia Fkongo he
fkkaukau ke tuku atu pe mu'a e si'i ngaahi ongoongo ia kuo tau fanongo
ai 'i faleni ki he tafa'aki, koe'uhi 'oku fa'a kau e ngaahi ma'u
ongoongo ho tau faleni ki Pulela'a 'i he fktupu mamahi he taimi lahi.
Tau si'i nofo'i fkmatoato pe mu'a 'ekitautolu ia 'a hono si'i hufia e
faingata'a 'oku lolotonga tofanga ai hotau ngaahi famili, kaunga
pilikimi, kaunga'api, kaunga me'a kotoa pe 'i Pulela'a.

Nonga 'a e 'Eiki

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On Feb 19, 3:06 pm, Sami Pakofe <smpak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Teu toki ' oatu ha potalanoa fkfiefia.  ,,,,,kae 'oualeva ke tuku e
> huomanioke ni.
>

[Sami Pakofe]

hhhhhhhhhh, 'Ahau 'ai e kataki ke lahi, tuku mai aileva 'ena ketau
fanongo kiai, na'e ikai ha'aku talanoa 'a'aku ia koe 'ai pe ke 'oatu
ha'atau ki'i fakaoli he kuo hange kiate au kuo lahilahi e fakatokanga
mai pea kuo 'ikai kemou kataki ka kuo mou lotu mai aipe he Paenga ni,
kae iaki temou kataki o Lotu pe hena,,,

, pea mahalo pe oku mou longoa'a 'ia,, kae tuku aa keu hoko atu e huo
manioke ia, kae hoko atu ho'o mou Tasilsili, na'a kuou maumau 'ii 'e
au e lao 'oe Tasilisili ke tapu lea'ia'ii e Sutt ....

Tuku keu 'oatu eki'i Talanoa Faka'osi ko'eni :: ketau sio kiai, pea
mou toki nofo aa.. ..

Kuo lava 'o 'osi eta'u e 200 tupu lahi talu meihe tu'uta mai 'ae kau
papalangi kihe fonua ni, 'o nau Fakanaunau, Fakalotu'i, fakaako'i pea
nau toe Fakapule'anga'i..

'osi e ta'u e meimeii 100 tupu lahi, kuo fakatokanga'i hake 'ehe kau
Apolisini, oku 'iai e maumau ihonau va moe kau papalangi, koe maumau,
koe "mole 'ae fanau,,( Stolen Generations[ known as Stolen Children]
).. kamata ke hu'uhu'u e kakai Apo, pea nau launga , kae kei kalo pe
Pule'anga, a'u mai koe kau Palemia 'eni e Fiha mo'enau kei Kalo,,
talunga mo Kevin Rudd kene tali kene Tu'u o KOLE FAKAMOLEMOLE KIHE
KAKAI HE MAUMAU NE HOKO,, ko'ene tokinonga ia 'ae kakai..

Kau Tasilisli, oku faka'ofa ekakai 'oe Siasi ko'enau pipiki kihe
KOLOSI, kae ikai pe ke 'oatu ehe kau Faifekau ni, ha KOLE FAKAMOLEMOLE
KUO HALA 'ENAU NGAUE..... koe fehu'ii , Lotu atu kitautolu, kae ikai
pe kenau "FIE KOLE FAKAMOLEMOLE KINAUTOLU KIHE KAKAI he maumau na'e
hoko,,,

Ikai toe kehekehe moe me'a oku hoko he Katolika, pau'usi'i e fanau he
ta'u e uofulutupu , 'eke atu longo pe 'eke atu longo pe,,, fe'unga moe
fu'u lahi 'ae tokotaha ( mamahi) luelue hangatonu atu pe ki 'api
polisi,,,, " Toki hahaka hake pe kau Katinali , kuo 'ikai toe
fielava...kofesio pe moe lotu... but not 'aonga..

ko fee ai e lotu, hufia iaa ,,


KAPAU NE NAU tu'u 'o loto lahi KE NAU LEA KIHE KAKAI, KUO FUOLOA KALIU
ha nonga 'ae kainga lotu..

Komou tolu nemou mamata kihe faka'eke'eke 'oe Faifekau Pule he taimi
koia,,, 'e Setita ( Faiongoongo 'ae TNEWS) Koe ha 'ae tali 'ae
faifekau,, " oku ikai pe ke totonu ke ilo'i 'ehe media ia ha me'a mei
pulela'aa, " PEA KAU AI MOE KAKAI "..

Kau Tasilisili,,, Oku ikai koe STOLEN GENERATIONS 'eni kuo talanoa
atu ai, he kuo 'osi fakalele'i ai,

Ko'eku talanoa atu 'a'aku 'eni he " Reality " me'a oku lolotongahoko,
koe 'ikai ma'u 'ehe kainga 'oe Siasi ha Nonga, kapau oku pehee, koe ha
leva 'etau fakatetu'a kihe kaha'u,, there must be no hope for the
future ,( koe 'ikai ha fakatu'amelie kihe kaha'u pea 'e hoko leva ia
'o hange ha " Painful Generations " ihe to'utangata koia.

Ko'etau LOtu, Ke Fakaola mai, oka 'oku tau loto ke Fakaola mai 'a Langi, ...

" tomu'a kole fakamolemole , pe 'uluaki fakalelei koe Koe moho
kaunga'api kapau na'e 'iai ha maumau b4 lotu mai kiate au , Sihova
said ....


koe ngata e fakalongoa'a atu kitekimoutolu Hou'eiki mo ha'a matapule
, moe kau Faifekau, kae'uma'aa e Kau Lotu Mo'oni ,

'oua pe mu'a temou 'ita.... koe me'a ia oku 'ikai sai kihe sino,
'atamai moe laumalie... tau talanoa lelei pe he koe kainga pe
kitautolu 'e taha...

tuku keu hunuki hee , kau toki fakalanga ha taimi.....

sami.

[Iki Pope]

Masii 'atamai-lelei-he-me'a-lahi mo'oni pee ho'o 'atamai lelei 'au ee..'oua
e hunuki ..tuku pee ke 'au'aufoe pee he kuo toe mapuna hake ha fo'I fkkaukau
lelei pea tuku mai. Mo'oni 'aupito e me'a 'oku ke lave ki ai. Fiema'u ke
kole fakamolemole kuo hala e ngauee. Ko e fo'i hala eni 'e fiha kuo hoko mo
e te'eki pe ke lea mai 'a pulela'aa kuo hala e ngauee. 'Ai aa mo pehee mai
kuo hala kae fakalelei'i ...poupou atu 'atamai ko e me'a ia ke faiii
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[Tevita Langi]

Tau lotu,
'Otua 'oku mau lotu ma'ae kau faifekau 'o Pulela'a moe kau faifekau kotoa pe kuo\'e fai hala ke nau loto lahi 'o kole fkmolemole kihe kakai kuo\te nau fai hala kiai ka nau fiemaalie moe kakai kotoa pe kuo\te nau mamahi kiha faifekau pe kiha kaungaa pilikimi.
                        'Emeni.

[Molisi Mila]

Kau tangata moe kau faifekau mou kataki pe hange oku ongo pau'ulotu pe ongo faka'aluma hono omai e kupukupu'i lotu oku fakataumu'a ki homou fangatokoua faifekau o talaki he ngaluope...kuo ha e fakaloto fale ia., kuo ha e fakatokoua ia? pea ko e ha e aonga e lotu kapau oku fakataumua ke galikovi ai ha taha pe koho tokoua?
Moe hufaki aipe...
Tahifisi...

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[tino tahitu'a]

Ko e Lotu faka'ofo'ofa ia Tevita Langi...ka tau faka'apa'apa'i pe kau faifekau he me'a kotoa pe....Ko e pani kinautolu 'a Sihova.....na'a 'eke ha ngaahi me'a ki hotau 'ulu please.....   Tongan Crusader   --- On Tue, 2/19/13, Tevita Langi <tlan...@gmail.com> wrote:  ' From: Tevita Langi <tlan...@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [tasilisili] loka 'a pulela'a koaa

To: "tasil...@googlegroups.com" <tasil...@googlegroups.com> Date: Tuesday, February 19, 2013, 4:40 PM

Tau lotu, 'Otua 'oku mau lotu ma'ae kau faifekau 'o Pulela'a moe kau faifekau kotoa pe kuo\'e fai hala ke nau loto lahi 'o kole fkmolemole kihe kakai kuo\te nau fai hala kiai ka nau fiemaalie moe kakai kotoa pe kuo\te nau mamahi kiha faifekau pe kiha kaungaa pilikimi.                         'Emeni.

[maafu...@gmail.com]

Tino,
Saipe fk'apa'apa'i kau faifekau, ka koe pani 'ae 'otua ko Sisu tokotaha pe.

[hingano pakileata]

 tulou atu ,

Iki fefe keta lotu mu'a kitaua ke 'i ai ha matapa pe ha faingamalie fakapa'anga mei ha feitu'u pe koha taha mo'umo'ua kene anga'ofa mai 'e ia ha ki'i niti ke tokoni ki he si'i faingata'ani, he kou tui au ko e palopalema ia ko e pa'anga 'o 'ikai ko e toe kole fakamolemole, kohai 'oku tonu ko hai 'oku hala....

ko e fakalokua atu pe mo 'ene kata e.

2013/2/20 <maafu...@gmail.com>

[Tevita Langi]

Ngano-lotu mai aa ko e ki he seniti he kuo 'itengia si'eku lotu 'a'aku ma'a hoku kaungaa faifekau. Tuku pe aa ia ke lau'i/talanoa'i/taalanga'i. He 'oku mo'oni 'a Ma'afu, 'oku 'ikai ko ha fakafieme'a 'i he ngaaue mo e talanoa. Ka ko 'eku 'uhinga kau sulu, tuku aa hono taalanga'i etc ka tau po-lotu pe mo tui lotu ma'a kinautolu 'oku faingata'a'ia.

'ofa atu mo e lotu pe neongo si'ene kovi

tlangi

[Tevita Finau]

Ko au 'eni laulalo atu tlangi. 'Iki 'ofa a he fale'i 'oku fai mai 'e tlangi. 'Ofa atu, tfinau

2013/2/21 Tevita Langi <tlan...@gmail.com>

Ngano-lotu mai aa ko e ki he seniti he kuo 'itengia si'eku lotu 'a'aku ma'a hoku kaungaa faifekau. Tuku pe aa ia ke lau'i/talanoa'i/taalanga'i. He 'oku mo'oni 'a Ma'afu, 'oku 'ikai ko ha fakafieme'a 'i he ngaaue mo e talanoa. Ka ko 'eku 'uhinga kau sulu, tuku aa hono taalanga'i etc ka tau po-lotu pe mo tui lotu ma'a kinautolu 'oku faingata'a'ia.

'ofa atu mo e lotu pe neongo si'ene kovi

tlangi

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[hingano pakileata]

Ti Langi

 

ko e mo'oni ia Ti Langi kuo si'i tapalasia si'o feinga lotu e, ka teu lotu a au ia ki ha ki'i niti na'a afea mai ia he 'Otua mei ha fu'u paipa e, he taumaiaa teu lea au ia ki ha me'a kuo 'osi hoko hhh, tulou atu, ko e tui lotu atu pe Ti ki ho'o lotu e

2013/2/21 Tevita Langi <tlan...@gmail.com>

Ngano-lotu mai aa ko e ki he seniti he kuo 'itengia si'eku lotu 'a'aku ma'a hoku kaungaa faifekau. Tuku pe aa ia ke lau'i/talanoa'i/taalanga'i. He 'oku mo'oni 'a Ma'afu, 'oku 'ikai ko ha fakafieme'a 'i he ngaaue mo e talanoa. Ka ko 'eku 'uhinga kau sulu, tuku aa hono taalanga'i etc ka tau po-lotu pe mo tui lotu ma'a kinautolu 'oku faingata'a'ia.

'ofa atu mo e lotu pe neongo si'ene kovi

tlangi

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[Iki Pope]

Kataki tifinau ‘oku ou tali pe ‘e au e fale’i ‘a tilangi he ko e lotu he’ikai ta’etali ia ‘e ha taha ha ha ha ha ...ka ko e ‘ai ko ee e lotu ke ‘ufi’ufi ai e halaa ‘oku mo’oni ‘a sisu ia ‘uluaki mole koe ‘o fai e fakalelei mo e kainga kae toki ‘ai mai e feilaulau ha ha ha ha ...ko e lotu fakahaa ia ‘a e ‘ai ke fkpulou’i pea iku e kakai ke lotu ‘o momole ‘o lunga pee kae kei faliki pe e fehalaaki ia ‘i lalo.  Ka ko e faofao pe foki. 

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[Sami Pakofe]

Hange kiate au, koe lotu ia 'oku taukave'ii 'ehe kakai Tonga( i muli ni) , Pope, tautau tefito ka hoko ha fakaevaha, kuo ikai kenau 'uluaki sio kihe me'a oku totonu ke 'uluaki fai, ke Fakalelei'ii pea toki oo leva 'o 'ave kia Sihova,,,, tokalalo e me'a na'e totonu ke 'uluaki fai, kae 'ai 'i olunga e fakangalingali, koe '" koe fakalelei "" koe uho ia 'oe Kole fakamolemole,,,

 

Koe me'a 'eni 'oku tau ui koe " fai kovi'ii e LOtu ",

 

koe lotu koee ne fai 'e Rev Tev Langi, koe lotu lelei ia kiate au,, lotu'ii e kaunga-ngaue ke nau 'ilo'ii e me'a totonu kenau fai,,,

 

Kau TASILISILI , pango pe koe 'uhi oku tau feuluulufi heni,,,, koe paenga TNEWS fakailifia 'aupito ia,,,, oku nau ui e kau faifekau kapekape'ii honau hingoa, pea nau kape kihe kau Lotu,,,tautautefito kihe kau faifekau ko'eni ihe Sutt i 'Aositelelia ni.. 

 

Koe ha hono 'uhinga ?

 

oku 'iia nai ha taimi tetau nofo 'o ki'ii hu'uhu'u he anga 'etau fakafeangai oku fai kihotau 'Eiki,,, pe oku pehee pe 'ehe kau faifekau ia Tokolahi koe "tonu ee oku nau fai ?

 

mou ki'ii 'eva atu kihe TNEWS, kamou sio ai kihe 'ata totonu 'oe Sosaiete mo'enau mamahi he sio mai kihe fai kovi'ii pehee e Lotu....

 

koe kakai ko'eni, kiate au,,, koe FANAU , pea hangehange kiate au,,, oku nau mamahi koe ikai fakahaa e mo'oni kihe kakai..

 

mou huu kiai, ka mou sio kiai pea mou LANGA MAI MEI AI , ha tau akonaki .... oua temou hola mei ai neongo 'enau kapekape, ..

 

Kamou sio ai,,, koe LOTU eeee, KUO HANGE HA KAI KAPE FIFISI 'ae Tokolahi,,,

 

koe fifili leva 'a'aku,,,,,,,, koe ha leva 'ae me'a tetau fai, ,,, tau Lotu Hufia ma'a nautolu ? hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

koe teketeke atu pe.....

 

 

tuku keu hunuki hee, kau toki fakalanga...

 

sami.

2013/2/21 Iki Pope <iki....@tonganyouth.org.nz>

[Saulisi Mafileo]

Fe'unga pe mo koe 'Atamai ke ke hu atu ki he fu'u loki lea ta'etaau ko 'ena, he 'oku ke toe lava pe 'o hu mai ki tu'a. Kau ka hu atu au ki loki na, teu nofo ai pe au ai. Ko e tapinga ai pe 'ena ia 'o e mamani tu'u malele ni. Fai atu ai pe mei heni 'a e hufia, he ko e me'a pe ia 'oku ala ma'u. 'ofa mo e hufia. sikei --- On Thu, 2/21/13, Sami Pakofe <smpa...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Sami Pakofe <smpa...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: [tasilisili] loka 'a pulela'a koaa To: tasil...@googlegroups.com

[Sione M. Veituna]

Sami,

Kuo osi mahino e issue a Pulelaá, koe ha sio loto tokoua? Ko etau talanga pe, kapau naá ko e faifekau pule ko ho tamai pe taókete, ko ha ááu e fai? Pea tau pehee kapau naá ko Sami naé hoko ai á e faingataá ni? Ko ha ho loto ki ha meá ke mau fai kiate koe? oku ikai ha fakalaloaí é taha é meá ne hoko, ko e sio pe eni he íkai ke mou fiemalie he álunga ó e ngaue kuo fai ki he maumau naé hoko

Hange kiate au kuo mahino ki he tokolahi á e tonounou naé hoko pea oku fai á e feinga ke fakaake hake siasi mei he faingataá ko ia; maybe not in our own term, but in theirs; na koe meá ia oku mou taéfiemalie ai ko e ikai ke fai e fakamaau totonu fakatatau ki homou mahino...

I he tafaáki e taha, ko e ngaahi meá kuo valau ai á NZ he media mo e kau taki lotu; pea pehe ki he futa mai áki e kape á e kau talanga he TNews ki he kau takilotu, kiate au oku hange tofu pe koe lau ki he kape ae fakapaku ki he tikatele, pehe atu e tama koe ki he tama koee, sio mai úliúli, pehe mai e tikatele, sio lelei oku ta likkoliko tatau pe

taimi lahi ko e kakai taéfieauna mo lototangia oku kape taki holo koena oku nau kapeí pe meá oku nau moúa ai... ko e lotomamahi he ngaue hala ka talaéhai oku nau ngaue totonu; koe kalanga he taéófa, ka talaéhai oku nau fai ófa ákinautolu...ko e ita he ngaue hala áki e mafai, ka tala e hai oku óange á e ngaahi meá oku nau malangaí mai ki honau ngaahi mali mo énau fanau..

oku ou tui oku e moóni e palovepi 'a e kau Native Americans pe kau Initia Kula, ko e tama taáki kovi ko e tama fai kovi...

ko u fokotuú atu mo omi ke tau oo ki mamani o ngaohi kakai, oku tokolahi e kakai oku ikai ko e kau Tonga oku kei taémaú Ótua ni tokolahi,  á e Mosilemi, Hindu, mo e lotu Buddha, pea mo e kau palangi tokolahi oku ikai maú Ótua, oku ikai ke ai hanau taimi onautolu ke fakafekiki he siasi he taha oku nau siasi, ko e meá pe oku nau fiemaú ko e ófa á e Ótua....

naá ku i Melipoane he ngaahi mahina atu, tuva e kau Turkish, Lepaneses, Asians and North Africans, pehe mo Sene, leta e kau Middle East people ke fai ha ngaue ki ai, áki hano fakailo atu á Sisu kiate kinautolu; ngali oku moúa pe homou taimi he kee mo e fakatonutonu he ngaahi siasi kau Tonga kae liekina etau tefitoí meá, ko mamani hoku potungaue (the World is my parish, John Wesley)

naá oku lahi e fakatonutonu he Siasi hena ko e ikai ke ai pea mou kii hu mai ki mamani ke tau fai e lau á Himi, foli he vao hena kumi e ngaahi laumalie hee, kae kii tuku atu e kau Tonga ke nau manava; naé koe tuai e moúi á e kafo ko e lahi hono lali hifo kae ikai ke tuku ke kii hu atu ha me'i éa ki he mataí lavea ke moúi

ko e ha haó lau?

ofa atu
Maánanga
  

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From: Sami Pakofe <smpa...@gmail.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [tasilisili] loka 'a pulela'a koaa

[tv]

2013/2/21 Sione M. Veituna <svei...@yahoo.com>

Sami,

Kuo osi mahino e issue a Pulelaá, koe ha sio loto tokoua?

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Faifekau, kataki atu 'oku te'eki mahino e issue 'o Pulela'a ki he tokolahi. Ne 'i ai e issue 'i homau fonua ni (SLC) pea tau fkmalo he 'i heni tonu 'a Rev Sifa Hingano mei he lotofale 'o e UMC 'o tau potalanoa ki ai. Pea haa mai e ngaahi me'a ke fai ai ha tokoni ('i he hufia mo e haafua). 'Oku te'eki pee mahino e issue 'o Pulela'a ki he tokolahi he 'oku 'ikai ke nau fie ha'u ke tau potalanoa he fale ni. Pea 'asinga ai he ko e fale potalanoa eni ia (toki lele ai pee mo e lotu 'a T Langi ....etc).

Pea ka 'oku 'ikai ke nau fie lea mai ke tau potalanoa pea sai pee ka e tuku ai pee ke mau popolave ta'emahino pe mau tolu ai. He ke mahino he 'oku mahino e fa'ahinga issue pehe ni? Ne mahino 'ane fee ha issue fk-siasi? 'E toki mahino ia ha holoholo hifo e ngaahi feinga pa'anga 'oku fai ki muli mei Tonga .... etc

[Sione M. Veituna]

ko fe konga oku kei taémahino Manini naá ku kií ala tokoni atu ai, ha ha ha ha!

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From: tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 5:28 AM

Subject: Re: Re: [tasilisili] loka 'a pulela'a koaa

[tv]

2013/2/21 Sione M. Veituna <svei...@yahoo.com>

ko fe konga oku kei taémahino Manini naá ku kií ala tokoni atu ai, ha ha ha ha!

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From: tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 5:28 AM

Subject: Re: Re: [tasilisili] loka 'a pulela'a koaa

2013/2/21 Sione M. Veituna <svei...@yahoo.com>

Sami,

Kuo osi mahino e issue a Pulelaá, koe ha sio loto tokoua?

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'aaaaa .... ngali sai 'a Pulela'aa he ko ena kuo ke hiki ki ai?

[tv]

2013/2/21 tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>

2013/2/21 Sione M. Veituna <svei...@yahoo.com>

ko fe konga oku kei taémahino Manini naá ku kií ala tokoni atu ai, ha ha ha ha!

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Te ta lava 'o claim the gospel as public truth? If so, ko e haa leva ha'o lau ki he ngaue 'a Pulela'a (in relations to the many questions na'e langa 'e Sami fekau'aki mo e ... creditors & their employees, unpaid liabilities ... etc)
 And so the ultimate authority of the 'gospel' - can we say the Church is not articulating a spiritual or inward truth but a social & political reality? What is the task of the church?

Can I quote this one view mei he misinale ki 'Initia (Lesslie Newbigin) - The task of the church is to live out this confession and commitment (ko e kosipeli ko e mo'oni ta'etoeveiveiua) in the public square as a sign and a foretaste of the consummation of this authority.  An overly spiritualised or individualised form of discipleship and witness does not come from a Biblical frame of thinking.

Ko e me'a eni 'oku te'eki ke fu'u mahino lelei kia au fekau'aki mo e anga e potalanoa ki he faifatongia hotau kupu ko Pulela'aa.

[Sione M. Veituna]

aaaaa Manini, malo pe fai fehikitaki ka oku lahi feúnga pe ngaue heni kiate au. Kou pehee ke mou fai e meá koena oku mou malangaí mai...
 

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From: tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 6:01 AM

Subject: Re: Re: [tasilisili] loka 'a pulela'a koaa

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'aaaaa .... ngali sai 'a Pulela'aa he ko ena kuo ke hiki ki ai?

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[Sami Pakofe]

Sione Vetuna, 'oua toe 'ai ke kau mai homau api Ho'o fktataa talnoa, fktataa talanoa fai he siakale oku  tau talanoa ai, Koe hopo ki tu' a Koe fakai'ilonga ia oe ita , lau lau mamalie etau potalanoa pea amanaki he'i kai tatau kotoa etau fakauhinga kihe me'a na'e hoko. Koe talanoa koee na'aku fai Koe talanoa fkmamani lahi ia, Koe me'a koee oku vivili mai Kiai Koe 'aliaki fktonga pe ia.               Koe anga ia 'ekulau....have a good week end .  

[hingano pakileata]

Tulou atu,

malie 'aupito e talanga ko'eni kiate au he 'oku ma'u ai 'eku koloa lahi, hange eni ia ha'aku fo'i faiva(movie) 'oku 'i ai e action, romance mo e ha fua te'eki pe ke a'u ia ki he horror mo e thriller ...poupou atu ki he talanga mahino ni,,ueh te'eki mahino ni... ofa atu kau paipa..tukumai ke ifo...

2013/2/22 Sami Pakofe <smpa...@gmail.com>

[hingano pakileata]

Sami

Kou pehee 'e au 'e 'eke mai 'e veituna ko e ha ha'o lau peake talaange "ke lau koha fu'u 'akau " hhh tulou atu pe mo pulela'aa ee..

2013/2/22 hingano pakileata <pakileat...@gmail.com>

[Sione M. Veituna]

Sami Pafoke,

1. kataki fakamolemole oku ikai keu íta ó hange ko hoó lau. Oku ou malieía (very interested) how you came to think oku fai ha íta he fofonga óe fehuí ne u fai atu. Kapau te ke fai pe meá ko ena oku ke kole mai keu fai, á e lau mamalie mo fakalelei, pe mo 'eku tohi, te ke tokangaí - ko e fehuí ne u fai atu ó ikai ko ha fakataataa. Ko e ongo meá kehekehe pe ia e 2.

2. Óku ikai ha meá ia i Pulelaá ke fai ai ha ita, pea oku ikai keu ita au hoo fakatalanoa óku fai. Ko e anga éku fehuí atu heéku vakai ki homou talanga hoó mou fuu hohoi pehee (pea kapau te u ngaueáki eku fakalea pe ááku) ke fakamomoa e kau matuá naé hoko ai e meá na, (toki fakatonutonu mai kapau oku hala eku fakauhinga pe fuu ongo vevela e fakalea kuo fai(but mean exposed). Pea ko ia ai ne u pehee pe te ke lava ke katakií ke fakavilivili pehee e kakai kapau naá ko hoó kainga ofi pe kainga tonu naé (pe oku) hoko ai á e faingataá.

3. Oku mahino mei hoó tali i lalo oku ikai te ke lava, hoó taófi mai ke fakatataa ki api. I heéne pehe, fai e meá ke loto ke fai kiate koe ki he kakai kehe foki! But again, I am sorry naá kuo ongo atu kuo fai ha lau ki api, mole ke mamaó! Ko e anga e fehuí?

4. Óku fakalanga kata hoó tala oku ke talanoa fakamamani lahi koe kau áliaki fakatonga au. Ko e toe fehuí mo éni e taha pe ua, (pea ke kataki pe he faá fehuí) ka koe meá ia e fai ai etau femahinoáki) (i) Ko e fe sií meá heéku fakatalanoa, fakalea pe fehuí 'oku ke lau ko e áliaki fakaTonga? (ii) Ko e konga fe hoó talanoa óku fakamamani lahi?

5. He kií maama siísií oku iate au, oku kií fehangahangai hoó toónga talanoa mo e talanoa fakamamani lahi.  Vakai naá koe meá ia oku pehee ai pe hoó fakatalanoa; ko hoó tala oku ke fakamamani lahi koe ka u (mau)fakaTonga au(kimautolu)

6. E lelei (i) ke mo fokotuú mai mo Vaikona ha pokolama pe founga (etc) e ala fai ke faitoó aki e faingataá kuo tau mataa (witness) kotoa ne hoko ki Pulelaá. (ii) É fefe hano filioí ke lava é he kau taki pe kakai ko eni oku i Pulelaá o tali ha tokoni pehee! He ko ena kuo fakahoko mai meia Maáfu ne fakahoko ange he kau Pulelaá ia ki h e Konifelenisi oku ikai ke nau feimaú ha tokoni ko e lotu pe! kuo tau ílo ia oku ikai ke nau fiemaú ha tokoni mei he Konifelenisi. Óku teéki ke tau ilo pe oku ikai ke nau fiemaú ha tokoni meiate kitautolu.

7. Kapau oku mou ilo ha meá e lelei ai e ngaue, fokotuku hake pea ke tau ngaueí ke lava o fakaáonga heílo naá tokoni ke faitoó e kafo. Ko e nofo pe ke taátaáki e kovi hili ko ia kuo osi mahino, te ne fakasiísií ai e faingamalie ke áonga ha tokoni oku iate (kita) kitautolu ke óatu.

8. Fakaósi, oku mole ke mamaó haáku langomi e fakahoko fatongia á e kau Pulelaá; pe ko ha matavaivai áha taki, o tatau ai pe pe ko e faifekau pe lay persons. Mahalo é au ko e meá oku ou tokanga atu kiai, pe oku aonga ko aa e tau ngaahi polau oku fai pe kuo taimi ke tau fai ha meá more strategically ke tokoni, ki he kainga pea mo kitautolu he anga ó e fua fatongia.

Ko ia pe sióku taókete, pea ke kataki fakamolemole naá kuo taku kuo fai ha hala lotoápi atu ho loto fale pe famili. Mole ke mamaó! Pea kapau kuo ongo pehee atu, kou fakamolemole lahi atu.

mo e ofa
Maánanga

[tv]

E lelei (i) ke mo fokotuú mai mo Vaikona ha pokolama pe founga (etc) e ala fai ke faitoó aki e faingataá kuo tau mataa (witness) kotoa ne hoko ki Pulelaá.

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Faifekau, 'oku 'ikai fu'u mahino pe te ta pau ki fe. Hangee 'oku ke aafe ke malu'i si'i matu'a Faifekau (mo e kau taki) mei Pulela'a he tu'unga fk-famili fk-e-nofo (kapau na'e hoko ki si'ato kainga/famili tonu ...); ka e hili ko ia ko e talanoa (tasilisili) 'oku fai ni 'i he'etau felaalaave'i he loto-fale fk-siasi. 'Ikai ko e ainga ia 'oku 'uhinga ai 'etau tasilisili ... ko eme'a kehe ia kapau na'a ko 'eta talanoa eni 'iha ha'ofanga kehe.

Ko e fee me'a ke malu'i, koe fee me'a ke fk'ataa ke tau talanoa ki ai (in the context of Tasilisili) ko e 'uhi ko 'etau mamahi'i 'etau ngaue. 'Oua te ke filifili talanoa foki he hangee ia 'oku tau malua loi. Ko 'etau 'ofa eni hotau fanga tokoua ngaue 'i Pulela'aa. Kapau ne fai ha kape kia kinautolu pea kole fkmolemole atu.

Ne ke uki ke tau oo 'o ngahi tangata (fk-'evangelioo). Ko e haa ha'aku tali hano 'eke mai 'e he kakai Aussie e me'a 'oku hoko 'i Pulela'aa? Ko e haa e exuse I'll make up to tell the people you want us to go and tell them about our christian faith, when they will ask about Pulela'a? Pea ke kinikini mai ke mahino 'aupito 'a e founga ngaohi kakai 'i Sene (pe ko Melipoane?)

Ko e kole 'a hotau kupu mei Pulela'aa ke tau lotua ange kinautolu. Ke lotua ke ha? Ke toe ha'u ha 'Initia? Ke ma'u ha seniti ki he fktau tuki? Ke fksi'isi'i hifo aa e ngaahi folau feinga $ mei Tonga 'oku nau fuesia fk'aho? Ko e haa e me'a ke tau hufia mo tala kihe 'Otua?

Na'a ku fk'amu au Veituna ke tau comfortable he talanoa'i hotau ngaahi lotofale mo hotau ngaahi mafasia mo e ngaahi me'a kehekehe 'oku tau fekuki mo ia mo e fkoli e uki ngaohi/kakai. Ke tau oo 'o loi ki he kakai koaa? When we read about the church history (pre Constantine), people recognised the church by how different the community of believers live - not by 'that building' around the corner. Kapau ko e akenga fo'ou eni 'a e  mo'ua fk& 'a e siasi pea 'oku sai ke mau si'i lave'i atu ki ai 'a kimautolu 'oku teu fokotu'u siasi ....

[hingano pakileata]

Ti langi

 

ko e taimi eni ke hu ai ho'o fanga ki'i 'anitema 'oku fa'a 'ai...malie talanoa fakakoloa..

2013/2/23 tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>

[seni taniela]

Nae ikai mole haaku peni e taha i Pulela'aa pea neongo kuo hangee eni oku tonu ke oua e toe fai ha talanoa ki ai ka tau lotu pee he tau mai aa oku tau kau ai... E feefee ke pehee mo e issue e mali gay...tau tuku atu aa mo ia ke oua e toe fai ha talanoa ki ai ka tau lotu pee he tau mai aa oku tau kau ai??

 

Mautolu ko eni oku mau against e mali fakaSotomaa oku mau longoa'a mo kai kape fifisi he issue gay kae a'u mai kihe issue ko e langafalelotu koula lauimiliona e kaingalotu Tonga tupu mei he tataki a e kau taki fakalaumalie oku ikai ke nau tui ki he fakaSotomaa pea tau ta'ota'ofi ke oua e fai ha lea ki ai katau lotu pee?? Somehow, I feel we are a little bit hypocritical here. Ko hai oku tau kalusefaii pea ko hai oku tau fai honau 'apu'apu'ii?

 

Pe ma'u mai pe mole e fu'u apini hala'ataa haaku tokanga aku ki ai.  Ko e me'a oku fai ki ai e tokangaa ke hoko e fu'u langa falelotu koenii ko classical example o e ta'efaka'Otua 'etau femo'uekina e hoko e langa falee ko e main mission e kau takilotu tokolahi kae fikafaatolu mai e  make disciple mo e fakamo'ui laumalie oku kalanga mai kiai a Dr Pulokaa

 

Moutolu ne mou siohe Schindler's List 'ae a'u ki he fakaosinga e faivaa...teu ke mavae a Schindler mo e kau popula Siu na'a ne fakahaofii pea ne nau me'aofaange 'a e foi mama oku tohi'i ai he lea fakaHepeluu "He who saves one life, saves the world"  pea osi pee hono foakiange foimamaa pe mo hono fakamatala'iange e uhinga e lea he foimama ne hangee oku fakafoa a Schindler heene tangi mo tuhu ki heene motokaa o ne pehee...ko e tokohongofulu e...nene paki'i hifo e foi fakama'u koula hono kotee o ne pehee ko e tokoua/tolu ia...ne ne tangi mo pehee Icould have done more.I could have saved more...Oiau ee e tau fakamole laui milionaa he munaa!!  Ko fee e ikai kei fai pee lotu i Selusalemaa???  Ne mei feefee ke fai pe langa fakafe'ungaa??

 

Tokofiha ne mei ului o tali a Kalaisi ko honau Eiki mo Fakamo'ui i Initia kapau ne 'ave ha $1 miliona o fund aki e apie kauhomeless pe ke ave aki ha kau misinale Tonga ki Burma?? kae langa pee ha falelotu fakafeungamo e ivii? 

 

Te tau fehuia leva is it biblically or morally justified ke ngaueaki e huafa e Otuaa mo hotau lakanga fakalotu ke uki e kakai e Eikii ki ha building project oku ope atu he langilauu etc pea tau lau ia as a step of faith etc...o hangee ko Pulela'aa...fakaamuange ki he toenga e toutangata hoko hakee, aia te nau faifekauu ke tau ako aa mei hena....tau foki aa  o lau pea fai e me'a oku kalanga mai ki ai a Dr Puloka...he oku ikai langilangi'ia e Eikii he langafale hono hingoaa o tala ko hono fale kae taufetongi a mamani he feinga pee ko hai tene ma'uu....he kapau na'e i fale 'a e 'Otuaa he osi hono langaa, heikai a'u ia ki he tu'unga ko 'enaa....Sai pee ena kuo ui ko hono fale kae mahalo oku  femo'uekina atu a Sisu ia he ma'ulotu he falelotu e kaingalotu Kilia i Calcutta oku langaaki pee ia e umea ne talanoa kiai a Philip Yancey heene aahi ki ai...ka e toki vakai pee e toe a'u hifo ki Pulela'aa kaeoua kuo tau fakatomala mei he takitaha langa hono pule'angaa.

 

Sio ki he fakaoli etau lotuu...ne lotu  a Sisu ke oua na'a mole si'a ngaahi laumalie...tautolu eni te tau mole taimi he lotu ke oua na'a mole ha fuu falelotu.  Nae ikai pekia a Sisu ki ha falelotu. Nae pekia ki he kakai.  Mafasia a Sisu he fua e hia e fu'u kakai...mafasia si'i kaingalotu ni he taa e mo'ua enau fu'u falelotu koeuhii pee ko e takihee a e kau takilotuu. E 'afee te tau mafasia he lotua e ngaahi laumalie oku teeki ke nau fanongo ia Sisuu

 

   

[Sifa Hingano]

Mahalo 'oku kehekehe pe 'a Pulela'a mo e falelotu LMM, mahalo ne lava lelei pe 'ae falelotu LMM ia hono taa. Kakuo hanga 'ehe hopo koloa ia 'o kaiha'ahi 'etau tokanga, kae ngalo e tefito'i 'uhinga 'oe palopalema koe fanau na'e sexually abuse hhf. Pea koe ngaahi fu'u mata kafo he sino,loto moe laumalie 'oe fanau ko'eni 'oku uhu pea 'oku fiema'u ketau lotu ma'ae kafo. Koe koloa ia ko'ena  ka malohi e Metotisi 'e kei pule pe mo ngaue'aki 'ehe kakai Tonga 'o hangee pe koia na'a nau maheni kiai 'i mu'a. Koe ki'i news pe 'eni Seni 'oku 'ikai ha falelotu Metotisi ia homau feitu'uni 'e mole koe ta'e lava hono taa, mahalo koe ki'i usu fakafaikava pe.

Sifa Higano,
Pastor, Genesis UMC

[hingano pakileata]

Seni

 

poupou atu ki he ngaahi poini kuo tuku hake. Neongo ko e palopalema kuo 'osi ka 'oku tau lea pe ki ai he ko e palakipoe ia kia kitautolu kau muiaki..ke 'ai pe fe'unga hange ko e kole poto 'a Solomone " ke 'omi pe hono 'inasi 'o fakafuofua mai pe" 'isa ko e fakafele'au pe talanoa malie kuo 'asi hake. Kou fa'a fehu'i he taimi lahi ki he ngaahi fu'u langa lalahi pehe ni pe 'oku tokoni nai ia ki he fakamo'ui laumalie, kai kehe ko e sio pe 'a kai lalo hakalo, tulou atu pe mo e kau rev....malie lahi fakatalanoa ia mo e 'fa ai pe..

2013/2/24 Sifa Hingano <pas...@genesischurch.org>

[Sione M. Veituna]

Ti Vaikona,

my point was simple. ko e nofoí ke lauí kovi kae ikai ke fai ha meá ke fakaleleiáki e palopolema, oku ikai ke u tui koe founga lelei taha pe effective one; pea kapau oku ikai ke ke fai pehee pea ke taúataina, koe úmaáki hoó óho mai,

kataki óku ikai keu áofi ha faifekau pe ko ha taha oku fai hala, pe taófi ha lea ki Pulelaá; ko e ne u tokanga kiai, ko e nofo ke lau e kovi kae ikai ke lukuluku mai ha alternative ke fai mo faitoó aki e kovi ka tau hoko atu, oku uhinga kiai eku talanoa; pea ko e uhinga ia eku kole ka oku mo ilo mo Sami ha lelei, fokotuu mai, oku ikai ko ha maluí ia o ha taha  í Pulelaá! Pea kataki Vaikona, oku ikai keu tokanga atu au pe ko hai oku i Pulelaá etc; 'oku ikai ke u taófi foki haó lea, ka oku ke fie lea ki Pulelaá pea ke lea koe ke ke fiemalie, ka ko e meá moóni óku ou tokanga atu au ki ai he po talanoa naá ma fai mo Sami, aia oku tupu mei ai e hoko atu he talanga ko eni....a ia ko ha kakai oku nofo pe ke taáki kovi, taé fai ha meá ke tokoni ke faitoó e fuú kovi naé hoko is no better that those oku hoko ai e faingataá, that's all!

Kuo hange eni ia kuo ke lotomamahi he'eku uki e ngaohi kakai, kataki atu, ka ko eku faakaahua naé fai kia Sami, pea oku úhinga ia, naá ko e meá ia óku lahi ai e kee mo e fe-fakatonutonu-áki he Siasi (as in Aositelelia and in the case of Pulelaáa) ko e liáki e meá oku Siasi ai e Siasi,... oku  ou tui oku ikai ke faá mamaó ia mei he moóni; he ko ene afe pe á e Siasi mei hono tefitoí fatongia te tau witness leva á e meá ko eni oku fai ai e laulea. hange kiate au ko e meá tatau pe ia mo ena oku ke mate taukave... ka koe ha koaa ke oho pe hee mai ai...

ofa mai ó fakaátaáta homou loto pea talanoa mai he poini. Ka oku ke fie taáki ha faifekau fai hala, pe ha taha fai hala, ofa mai o fai pe ia oku ikai ke u maumau ai, ko e úhinga pe eku talanoa ko kinautolu oku fai pehee, pe te mou lava ka lau atu ha taha kia koe pe ko hai pe kapau ko e tokotaha oku hoko ai e meá ko ia ko ho kainga ia ofi hange ko e fehuí naé fai...., oku ikai ke tatau ia mo e fakauhinga koeni oku mou fai mai kuo taofi pe aofi e fakafamili koaa pe koe haa, ai foki Ti ke ngali nae lelei ange hoó ako ia kimautolu koeni ne ikai osi mei he kolisi.

naá ké lave kimuá o pehee, ko e ái he oku nau (kau Pulelaá) omi ki heni ke tau talanoa, tamasii, Vaikona, oku ke ámanaki é omi e kau taki o Pulelaá ki he tasilisili ke talanoa mo koe; you must be kidding or confused...ko e foi too oku ke maú , he ilo pe é fiefanongo atu ha taha ia naé fehalaaki, he oku takataka aloof pe...and mind you, it is one  thing to know what is the right thing to do, it is another to see if those people whom you want to help like or need your help. therefore oku fiemaú ke tau kumi ha founga ange ke áutaki e tokoni ki he potu oku fiemaú e tokoni; talu e lele e tasilisili he meá á Pulelaá ko e tauáki fakamatala ai pe e fehalaaki, ko loto ke ai ha taha e fokotuú mai ha asenita/polokalama/founga e ala effective feúnga ke feau aki e faingataá ni; pe kou fifili pe oku mou loto koaa ke faitoó e kafo, pe oku ma'u pe hoó mou ifo pe malie he talanoa fakapoto;

Nae sii fai e feinga á e Sekelitali Paánga mo e Palesiteni moe niíhi, ke áuhi e faingataá ni, pea kuo lava e talatalanoa ko ia, oku ikai pe ke fiemalie homou niihi, ofa mai ka oku mou maú ha poto feúnga ke faitoó aki e fuú kafo na kuo hoko hotau siasi, hange ko hoó fakalea, ko e mamahi ai pe hotau siasi, pea ohake... kae oua muá te mou itengia au heéku tala atu, ko e nofo ke lau fehalaaki pe mo kape ki he kakai oku hoko ai e fehalaaki oku lahi ange éne anga maumau he éne anga áonga, o tala kuo feinga ke áofi ha taha!

ko e fehuí oku ke fai, pe ko e ha haó tali ka fehuí atu he kakai o Aostelelia ki he meá óku hoko i Pulelaá, ... very simple Ti, tell them oku sií haó ilo kiai, ngata pe he ngaahi kovi ko eni oku faá ohake he tasilsili, pea ke kataki oku ikai ke fiemaú ia ke u kinikini atu e founga ngaohi kakai i Sene mo Melipoane he tahaa oku ke interest ai, ke interest pe koe hono fakatonutonu o Pulelaá...

ko hoó toe fehuí ke lotu ke ha? another simple answer ki ai....ke lotu ke nau maú ha maama ke auhi áki e faingata'a oku nau lolotonga i ai; pe ke maú ha loto fakatokilalo ke tali e fehalaaki pea liliu mei ai, etc; kuo ke tala koe ai ke toe haú ha fuu intia etc etc, oku ikai pe ke tuku hoó lototangia ákoe, mo e fakamaítoá.

oku ai foki hoo mooni, fekauáki mo e lahi ae ngaahi feinga paánga naé oo atu ki Aositelelia, ka oku ikai keu tui koe tefitoí palopolema ia ne to lalo ai á Pulelaá, ka mahalo oku sai ke ke toki fokotuu mai ha tepile kehe ki hano fakasiisii e ngaahi folau kumi paánga, he kuo fenunusi e ngaahi kaveinga...

anyway, malo e fakatalanoa mai, ka mou hoko atu sióno fakatonutonu ó Pulelaá, he kou tui I have made my point clear!!, pea kapau oku kei taémahino pe ti, pea ke kataki, oku ikai keu toe ilo pe teu toe fakamatala fefe atu, pea ka fokotuú ho siasi koena oku lau pea ke toki omi haáku tohi fakaafe...

ofa ne mou maú ha Sapate lelei
ofa atu
Maánanga

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From: tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 12:44 AM

Subject: Re: [tasilisili] loka 'a pulela'a koaa

[hingano pakileata]

Veituna

 

na'e 'i ai ha kai lelei he 'aho ni pe na'ake fa'u 'ata'ata pe koe hh malo fai fatongia tulou atu mo e 'ofa

2013/2/24 Sione M. Veituna <svei...@yahoo.com>

[tv]

Rev Veituna .... haven't a clue what you are on about! Fu'u loloa ho'o nafu pee fo'i poini 'e taha .... pea mo'oni e fkhaua 'a e faiako 'akapulu ki he ki'i leka Tongoleleka - masi'i ... ko e anga e me'aa ko 'ete va'inga ke avangi e timi 'e taha ... ko koe 'oku ke saiti'i pe 'e koe ava 'o mapuni ia. But I hope ne lava lelei e Sapate mo hono ngaahi fatongia.

Pulela'a could have been any Siasi (SUTT). Mau siasi 'i motu; pehee atu ki he ongomatu'a .. ki'i tola ena ke mo kilisimasi, pehee mai naua ... sai ai leva ke tautauhi kihe ngaahi fatongia fksiasi he ko 'emau talasiti eni kuo mau si'i lele kulokula! Kole atu ke to'o ho'o fkkaukau mei he pehee ko si'i Pulela'a 'oku tau tapale ... noooooo .....ka toe (vale) siasi 'o ui taua ki ha potu siasi, pea sai ke ta 'alu mo 'eta fiepoto ko eni ki he issue 'o 'Pulela'a" 'o fkkoloa'aki si'i ngaahi laumalie .... 'o fiemalie pee he langa fale ki hevani ...etc

- lotua 'a Pulela'a
(I agree with Seni's last post)

- talanoa'i e kovi 'a Pulela'a
(ko eni 'oku ou huke hake pe neu pu'aki atu ha kovi 'a Pulela'a 'e taha apart from suggesting ... /oua toe ongo mai ha malanga fklotu mei ai, ka e 'omai ha business plan na'a 'aonga ange ia ke tau ako mei ai). Hangee 'oku ke hot Faifekau 'o toe mapuni pee ava ho'o saiti'i.

- ko e simple answers ko ena ki he ngaue fk-'evangelio 'oku ke fokotu'u mai ...
(really?)

Kapau he'ikai fie ha'u 'a Pule'aa ke tau talanoa mo'oni mo totonu hotau lotofale (or tell some truths because it suppose to anyway), pea tuku ai pee ke mau talanoa ta'emahino ka e 'oua teke make accusations mo ho'o toki hangee ai ia ha faifekau mo'oni ... lol. paaaaaaleeeese .... 'oua leva teke ta'ota'ofi mai 'emau talanoa ta'emahino .... kapau na'a ke 'i Pulela'a neu meimei ului atu ... ka ko 'eku vakai 'oku ofi ange 'a Sami 'ia taua looua.

'Ofa  atu Veituna pea moe kole fkmolemole moe 'ofa ki Pulela'a ka e ta'ota'ofi aa e talanoa ta'emahino ni (pe koe lau'i kovi'i?)

[Sione M. Veituna]

Ti Vaikona,

1. I reckon ko e tama akolelei koe, ko ia oku ikai keu sio pe ko e konga fee i he eku kii fakatalanoa oku ikai ke mahino... ko e meá pe é ua, either oku ou fuú dumb aupito pe au o ikai keu lava ke ai ke mahino atu e meá kou tokanga kiai, pe oku ke fuú taéloto moóni pe koe ki he meá kuo u fokotuú atu...

2. kataki naá mo eku kií fokotuú vaivai a ia oku ke tala oku ke fiu feinga ke mahinoí, é kei apply tatau pe ki ha siasi pe pe ngaueánga kehee, ...

3. ku ou malie ía au hoó peehee, 'ko hoo (eku?) toki faifekau moóni eee pleeassseeeee,' ha ha ha ... Vita please únu hake ki he level oku ke iai o nofo maú ai, pea tukú hoó mataí siolalo mo e fakaoli....,

4. ne ikai te ke lau i he eku tali fakamuimui atu ki hóó tohi eku pehee pea ka oku ikai ke ke fai pehee pea ke fiemalie, ko e úmaáki hoó óho mai... I originally made reference to the general public and not specifically to you, kataki toko!

5. kuo foi mooni hoo kei tala kuo u taófi koe , ofa mai tokoua fai atu hoó mou talanoa, .. he ko e meá matuáki kehe aupito pe ia ne u uhinga atu au kiai, pea koe kakai kehe pe ia ne u úhinga kiai heéma potatala mo Atamai, kae mahalo naé ikai uhinga atu ia kia koe, sorry about that!

6. At this point, I think we must leave it there and agree to disagree, until a better time or until we better understand each other's perspective, pe ke ilo pe, oku 'afu á e éa heni; ka oku ikai ke mau hot..(LOL) Te u toki lau fakalelei e tohi a Seni pea ka toki faingamalie fai atu ha lave ai, until then be cool!

ofa atu,
Maánanga

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From: tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:47 PM

Subject: Re: [tasilisili] loka 'a pulela'a koaa

[Sione M. Veituna]

Ngano,

ko e laipele sipi pe naé áve áki e kií toenga e foi úfi (kahokaho) ne omi mo e kau folau mei Tonga, LOL

ofa atu tokoua
Maánanga

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From: hingano pakileata <pakileat...@gmail.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:13 PM

Subject: Re: [tasilisili] loka 'a pulela'a koaa

[tv]

How am I suppose to read/interpret ho'o fo'i 'aliaki ko eni Veituna? Ko ho'o uki ko aa ke tau ha heni Faifekau? Ko ho'o faitu'utu'uni ki he tasilisili? Pe ko ho'o fokotu'u?

Ki'i taimitaimi atu foki ho'o attack au ka ke talanoa mai pee 'i Pulela'a. Pea kapau 'oku 'ikai te ke toe fie talanoa koe ki Pulela'a pea ke mokomoko pee koe 'o lotu hufia pee mo parparking he tafa'aki .... 'oua leva ho'o faitu'utu'u ni mai ki he issue ko ia he 'oku ou pehee atu 'oku te'eki mahino ia kiate au ... (sai'ia au he fkfehu'i 'a Sami, mo e fa'a tali fehu'i 'a Maama Tupa). Ko 'etau feinga malu'i he kohotau siasi? Koe fu'u siasi eni 'o Sihova pea ko ia pee ia 'oku tonu ke ne malu'i .... pe 'oku hala koaa 'eku lau folofola?

1. What is our theological stand ki he me'a ko e mo'ua (SUTT)? And are we following it? In what way?

2. Ko e haa e teolosia 'oku tau tu'u ai he  fakatautuki?

3. Anyway, 'oku SUTT ko aa 'a Pulela'aa pe 'oku SUTT in words & minds, but legally it isn't? Either way, 'oku totonu e 'pastoral care' mei Tonga, pe 'oku totonu ke fai 'e Tonga e me'a (totonu) fklao before we go on to teaching the Bible ..?? Is there a lesson from this kia kimautolu ko eni SUTT 'i USA?

'Oku relevant nai 'etau ako'i e Tohitapu 'o kapau ko eni ia 'oku 'ikai manifest in how the church is functioning? 'oku ou malie'ia he starting/standpoint 'a Seni, he 'oku ou mahamahalo 'oku 'i ai pee 'alo'ofa 'a 'e 'Eiki ki he'etau tootooivi he ngaue 'o hangee ko ia 'oku fai 'ehe fangatokoua 'i Pulela'aa. Seni (in my interpretation) suggest we are (as a SUTT church) going down the route of doing church buildings and neglect 'a e ministry totonu ko e build disciples. I tend to agree, but I think 'oku fk'ofo'ofa hono teuteu'i e temipale 'oe 'Otua ke ma'a masani pea mahino ... this is a form of our worship to our creator.

I have argued with my (parents) for years about hono fai pehe'i e lotu ... feinga'i e teuteu fale-lotu ia ke 'oua toe 'i ai hano ua, pea langa homau fu'u fale-lotu 'i motu .. pea toe teu eni ke toe feinga'i ke langa ...etc. Slowly I have to appreciate this kind of worhsip .... (ie, ko e temipale 'o e 'Otua ke 'oange ki ai e tokanga makehe)

Now the question is how far we go in this kind of manifestation of our worhsip to God who gives us life and its fullness!



13/2/21 Sione M. Veituna <svei...@yahoo.com>

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 Malo 'etau lava, he tamasi'i ta'enofo noa mo'oni kiate au ko Koe, ko e 'ai e ke lii atu e va'a palalafa piko ke fai ha fakamokomoko kuo ke toe uingaki mai kitautolu ki he tepili ni.

'Oku ou tui ko e ongo me'a ko eni kuo fai ai e talanoa mo e feta'ofi'aki, 'e ngali lahi hona faitatau pea toe lanhi mo hono kehekehe, ka e tuku ke lave'i pe ha ki'i me'a 'e taha.
Fakasotoma, Hia 'ilo'ilo pau.
Ko e 'uhinga 'oku tau lea ai he Fakasotoma, he kuo 'osi 'iai 'enau(Gaysles) ngahi teolosia, 'o faka'io 'ae me'a 'oku 'ikai ke tonu, 'ae me'a 'oku hala , 'oku tonu pe ia, kaekehe kuo tau lave'i ia he ngahi Siasi he 'aho ni, Ko 'ene pipihi leva he 'oku kau atu ai mo e kakai normal pe poupou pea nau tu'u nautolu 'o ta'ofi mai kitautolu " kulokula vave " he issue ko ia, taimi tatau, ko e issue ia 'e toki fakatolonga ka faifai ange 'enau fakatohitapu'i pea tali 'e he Siasi, taau pe ketau lea ai , hange ko au, kuo tali 'e faka'ulu'ulu'i tuhu 'e he UCA, lava ke Faifekau ekau nonofo, toe  eni ke fai aa ha mali.. ko ia 'ae me'a 'oku kei fai ai 'ae longolongoa'a.

Ko e ta'etokanga ki he founga ngaue.
Ko e toonounou kuo hoko 'i Pulela'a mo ha ngahi feitu'u kehe pe he Siasi, fakatatau ki he'eku fanongo talanoa, na'e 'ikai kenau lave'i 'e iku mai ki he tukunga ko eni tupu mahalo mei hani fakavave'i 'a e  langa, mahalo pe, pea na'amau fiefia ai, he koe fo'i ngaue lelei ia kiate kinautolu , pea 'oku 'osi mea'i 'ehe  tokotaha kotoa hono 'aonga ki he kakai 'o Tonga, kehe ia mei he Fakasotoma.

Ko e fu'u 'api ne fiefia ai e tokolahi  ne fou mai ha'ane feinga ki Pulela'a, ko e Fakasotoma ko e ongome'a pe ko ee 'oku fakahoko 'ena faka'amu 'oku na ma'u 'ae fa'ahinga fiefia 'o e nofo ko iaa...

Ko 'eku lau leva 'a'aku ke fakalotolahi'i kinautolu 'oku pehe ni, 'ia Sione vahe 14:2. 'I he 'api 'o 'eku Tamai, 'oku lahi 'ae ngahi nofo'anga: ka ne 'ikai, pehe kuo tala kiate kimoutolu he ko'eku 'alu 'eni ke teuteu ha potu mo'o kimoutolu.

Fai'aki m'ua eni hano hufia 'aki kinautolu, pea 'oku te'eki ke tapuni 'ae lotu 'o hufia ha faingata'a kuo hoko hotau mamani 'o kau ai e Fakasotoma, hange ko ia kuo fa'a fakatahataha atu ai 'a e kakai Kalisitaine 'o lotu hufia ' i he Great Hall 'i he Falealea 'i Canberra

Ka toki ma'u ha ongoongo taau pea fekau'aki mo Pulela'a , 'e toki 'oatu, .

takamuli

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Tv malo e lohu mei homou feitu'u la'a na.

Hange kiate au ko e taimi lelei eni ke fai leva ha ngaue ki he ngahi me'a 'oku ke fehu'i ki ai, ngahi me'a lelei ia ketau tokanga ki ai. taimi tatau 'oku 'osi tohi'i pe 'i he ngahi Siasi 'ae founga ki ha langa, ko e teuteu ke maau pea toki langa...

Na'a ku lele atu ki Tonga he ta'u kuo hili fe'unga mo e Konifelenisi, tau he Tusite kae mu'a atu e ongoongo he Monite  hono loka e ngahi Koloa 'ae Sutt fakaongoongo ki Tonga 'o 'OZ ni. Ne 'eke mai 'e ha Kainga 'oe Siasi 'o Houma Tt he mama kava, pe 'oku ou lave'i ha me'a fekau'aki moe ongoongo nenau ma'u, kuo loka 'a Pulela'a ? Kuo u talaange 'ikai ke u lave'i, he neu toki 'ohovale pe he'enau talanoa maii, ko ia 'oku faingofua pe ka 'eke mai 'e ha taha ha me'a fekau'aki mo Pulela'a ka 'oku 'ikai ke te lave'i pea te talaange pe 'oku 'ikai.

Ka 'eke mai pe ko e ha ha'aku lau ki ha fa'ahinga langa  pehe, 'o 'ikai lava hano taa fakafoki e noo, te u fale'i kinautolu 'aki eni. Ka fai ha'o noo, feinga'i ke ke 'uluaki ma'u 'ae vahefa'etolu( 3/4)e butget 'o e langa , pea ke toki noo, ka ko e sai taha foki kapau 'oku ma'u kotoa pe iaa...

'Oku tau tui kotao 'oku taau ke fakapotopoto e ngaue , pea ko hano fale'i e kakai 'oe Siasi ko e me'a matu'aki mahu'inga ia he ko nautolu 'e fakamole...

Ko e lotu hufia 'e TV hange ko ia kuo lave ki ai, ko e fatongai totonu pe ia pea  ko  e me'a lelei  , he'ikai ko ha angahala ia kiate kitautolu ketau kole ha nonga mo ha fiemalie ma'ae si'i kakai na, pehe ki he kau taki...

Kaekehe faifai pea ongo ki Mala'elahi 'emau kekee, kae kei fehu'i pe.

takamuli

 

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Re: Re: [tasilisili] loka 'a pulela'a koaa

How am I suppose to read/interpret ho'o fo'i 'aliaki ko eni Veituna? Ko ho'o uki ko aa ke tau ha heni Faifekau? Ko ho'o faitu'utu'uni ki he tasilisili? Pe ko ho'o fokotu'u?

Ki'i taimitaimi atu foki ho'o attack au ka ke talanoa mai pee 'i Pulela'a. Pea kapau 'oku 'ikai te ke toe fie talanoa koe ki Pulela'a pea ke mokomoko pee koe 'o lotu hufia pee mo parparking he tafa'aki .... 'oua leva ho'o faitu'utu'u ni mai ki he issue ko ia he 'oku ou pehee atu 'oku te'eki mahino ia kiate au ... (sai'ia au he fkfehu'i 'a Sami, mo e fa'a tali fehu'i 'a Maama Tupa). Ko 'etau feinga malu'i he kohotau siasi? Koe fu'u siasi eni 'o Sihova pea ko ia pee ia 'oku tonu ke ne malu'i .... pe 'oku hala koaa 'eku lau folofola?

1. What is our theological stand ki he me'a ko e mo'ua (SUTT)? And are we following it? In what way?

2. Ko e haa e teolosia 'oku tau tu'u ai he  fakatautuki?

3. Anyway, 'oku SUTT ko aa 'a Pulela'aa pe 'oku SUTT in words & minds, but legally it isn't? Either way, 'oku totonu e 'pastoral care' mei Tonga, pe 'oku totonu ke fai 'e Tonga e me'a (totonu) fklao before we go on to teaching the Bible ..?? Is there a lesson from this kia kimautolu ko eni SUTT 'i USA?

'Oku relevant nai 'etau ako'i e Tohitapu 'o kapau ko eni ia 'oku 'ikai manifest in how the church is functioning? 'oku ou malie'ia he starting/standpoint 'a Seni, he 'oku ou mahamahalo 'oku 'i ai pee 'alo'ofa 'a 'e 'Eiki ki he'etau tootooivi he ngaue 'o hangee ko ia 'oku fai 'ehe fangatokoua 'i Pulela'aa. Seni (in my interpretation) suggest we are (as a SUTT church) going down the route of doing church buildings and neglect 'a e ministry totonu ko e build disciples. I tend to agree, but I think 'oku fk'ofo'ofa hono teuteu'i e temipale 'oe 'Otua ke ma'a masani pea mahino ... this is a form of our worship to our creator.

I have argued with my (parents) for years about hono fai pehe'i e lotu ... feinga'i e teuteu fale-lotu ia ke 'oua toe 'i ai hano ua, pea langa homau fu'u fale-lotu 'i motu .. pea toe teu eni ke toe feinga'i ke langa ...etc Slowly I have to appreciate this kind of worhsip .... (ie, ko e temipale 'o e 'Otua ke 'oange ki ai e tokanga makehe)

Now the question is how far we go in this kind of manifestation of our worhsip to God who gives us life and its fullness!



13/2/21 Sione M. Veituna <svei...@yahoo.com>

Sami,

Kuo osi mahino e issue a Pulelaá, koe ha sio loto tokoua? Ko etau talanga pe, kapau naá ko e faifekau pule ko ho tamai pe taókete, ko ha ááu e fai? Pea tau pehee kapau naá ko Sami naé hoko ai á e faingataá ni? Ko ha ho loto ki ha meá ke mau fai kiate koe? oku ikai ha fakalaloaí é taha é meá ne hoko, ko e sio pe eni he íkai ke mou fiemalie he álunga ó e ngaue kuo fai ki he maumau naé hoko

Hange kiate au kuo mahino ki he tokolahi á e tonounou naé hoko pea oku fai á e feinga ke fakaake hake siasi mei he faingataá ko ia; maybe not in our own term, but in theirs; na koe meá ia oku mou taéfiemalie ai ko e ikai ke fai e fakamaau totonu fakatatau ki homou mahino...

I he tafaáki e taha, ko e ngaahi meá kuo valau ai á NZ he media mo e kau taki lotu; pea pehe ki he futa mai áki e kape á e kau talanga he TNews ki he kau takilotu, kiate au oku hange tofu pe koe lau ki he kape ae fakapaku ki he tikatele, pehe atu e tama koe ki he tama koee, sio mai úliúli, pehe mai e tikatele, sio lelei oku ta likkoliko tatau pe

taimi lahi ko e kakai taéfieauna mo lototangia oku kape taki holo koena oku nau kapeí pe meá oku nau moúa ai.. ko e lotomamahi he ngaue hala ka talaéhai oku nau ngaue totonu; koe kalanga he taéófa, ka talaéhai oku nau fai ófa ákinautolu...ko e ita he ngaue hala áki e mafai, ka tala e hai oku óange á e ngaahi meá oku nau malangaí mai ki honau ngaahi mali mo énau fanau..

oku ou tui oku e moóni e palovepi 'a e kau Native Americans pe kau Initia Kula, ko e tama taáki kovi ko e tama fai kovi...

ko u fokotuú atu mo omi ke tau oo ki mamani o ngaohi kakai, oku tokolahi e kakai oku ikai ko e kau Tonga oku kei taémaú Ótua ni tokolahi,  á e Mosilemi, Hindu, mo e lotu Buddha, pea mo e kau palangi tokolahi oku ikai maú Ótua, oku ikai ke ai hanau taimi onautolu ke fakafekiki he siasi he taha oku nau siasi, ko e meá pe oku nau fiemaú ko e ófa á e Ótua....

naá ku i Melipoane he ngaahi mahina atu, tuva e kau Turkish, Lepaneses, Asians and North Africans, pehe mo Sene, leta e kau Middle East people ke fai ha ngaue ki ai, áki hano fakailo atu á Sisu kiate kinautolu; ngali oku moúa pe homou taimi he kee mo e fakatonutonu he ngaahi siasi kau Tonga kae liekina etau tefitoí meá, ko mamani hoku potungaue (the World is my parish, John Wesley)

naá oku lahi e fakatonutonu he Siasi hena ko e ikai ke ai pea mou kii hu mai ki mamani ke tau fai e lau á Himi, foli he vao hena kumi e ngaahi laumalie hee, kae kii tuku atu e kau Tonga ke nau manava; naé koe tuai e moúi á e kafo ko e lahi hono lali hifo kae ikai ke tuku ke kii hu atu ha me'i éa ki he mataí lavea ke moúi

ko e ha haó lau?

ofa atu
Maánanga
  

From: Sami Pakofe <smpa...@gmail.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [tasilisili] loka 'a pulela'a koaa

Hange kiate au, koe lotu ia 'oku taukave'ii 'ehe kakai Tonga( i muli ni) , Pope, tautau tefito ka hoko ha fakaevaha, kuo ikai kenau 'uluaki sio kihe me'a oku totonu ke 'uluaki fai, ke Fakalelei'ii pea toki oo leva 'o 'ave kia Sihova,,,, tokalalo e me'a na'e totonu ke 'uluaki fai, kae 'ai 'i olunga e fakangalingali, koe '" koe fakalelei "" koe uho ia 'oe Kole fakamolemole,,,

 

Koe me'a 'eni 'oku tau ui koe " fai kovi'ii e LOtu ",

 

koe lotu koee ne fai 'e Rev Tev Langi, koe lotu lelei ia kiate au,, lotu'ii e kaunga-ngaue ke nau 'ilo'ii e me'a totonu kenau fai,,,

 

Kau TASILISILI , pango pe koe 'uhi oku tau feuluulufi heni,,,, koe paenga TNEWS fakailifia 'aupito ia,,,, oku nau ui e kau faifekau kapekape'ii honau hingoa, pea nau kape kihe kau Lotu,,,tautautefito kihe kau faifekau ko'eni ihe Sutt i 'Aositelelia ni. 

 

Koe ha hono 'uhinga ?

 

oku 'iia nai ha taimi tetau nofo 'o ki'ii hu'uhu'u he anga 'etau fakafeangai oku fai kihotau 'Eiki,,, pe oku pehee pe 'ehe kau faifekau ia Tokolahi koe "tonu ee oku nau fai ?

 

mou ki'ii 'eva atu kihe TNEWS, kamou sio ai kihe 'ata totonu 'oe Sosaiete mo'enau mamahi he sio mai kihe fai kovi'ii pehee e Lotu...

 

[Iki Pope]

Seni wrote,

 

Moutolu ne mou siohe Schindler's List 'ae a'u ki he fakaosinga e faivaa...teu ke mavae a Schindler mo e kau popula Siu na'a ne fakahaofii pea ne nau me'aofaange 'a e foi mama oku tohi'i ai he lea fakaHepeluu "He who saves one life, saves the world"  pea osi pee hono foakiange foimamaa pe mo hono fakamatala'iange e uhinga e lea he foimama ne hangee oku fakafoa a Schindler heene tangi mo tuhu ki heene motokaa o ne pehee...ko e tokohongofulu e...nene paki'i hifo e foi fakama'u koula hono kotee o ne pehee ko e tokoua/tolu ia...ne ne tangi mo pehee Icould have done more.I could have saved more...Oiau ee e tau fakamole laui milionaa he munaa!!  Ko fee e ikai kei fai pee lotu i Selusalemaa???  Ne mei feefee ke fai pe langa fakafe'ungaa??

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Seni mo’oni ‘aupito ho’o lave ko ‘enii pea ko e kau ia ‘i he me’a ‘oku mamahi ai pea mahu’inga ‘a e taki ‘oku nofo muli kene ‘ilo’i ‘ ae mafasia mo e faingata’a ‘o e nofo mulii.  Ko e talanoa ko ee na’e ongona mai he kamata ‘a e langa ko e langa eni ko e ua ia ‘o Saione ‘i Tonga kuo ‘osi kovi ia kia au.  Ko hono ‘uhingaa ko e fa’ahinga taukei ‘oku tau ma’u he nofo muli ni ‘oku pau ke pa’anga e me’a kotoa.  Kuo taimi ke hiki ‘a e tu’unga ‘o e ngaue fakalotu mo e tokanga’i ‘o e siasi ‘o focus he tokanga’i e mo’ui ‘a e kakai ‘isa ‘ e mo’ui lotolu.  Hangee ko ho’o lau ke tau fakahaofi ‘a e kakai kaekehe ‘oku kau foki he fkhaofi mo e toka’i ‘o e kakaiii ‘a e me’a na’e lave ki ai ‘a sami ki he kole fkmolemole.  Kaekehe kapau tetau tokanga ki he mo’ui ‘a e kaikaii ‘e fuu matu’aki mahu’inga ia ki he ngaue ‘a e saiasii.

 

 

[Iki Pope]

Rev Veituna .... haven't a clue what you are on about! Fu'u loloa ho'o nafu pee fo'i poini 'e taha .... pea mo'oni e fkhaua 'a e faiako 'akapulu ki he ki'i leka Tongoleleka - masi'i ... ko e anga e me'aa ko 'ete va'inga ke avangi e timi 'e taha ... ko koe 'oku ke saiti'i pe 'e koe ava 'o mapuni ia. But I hope ne lava lelei e Sapate mo hono ngaahi fatongia.

Pulela'a could have been any Siasi (SUTT). Mau siasi 'i motu; pehee atu ki he ongomatu'a .. ki'i tola ena ke mo kilisimasi, pehee mai naua ... sai ai leva ke tautauhi kihe ngaahi fatongia fksiasi he ko 'emau talasiti eni kuo mau si'i lele kulokula! Kole atu ke to'o ho'o fkkaukau mei he pehee ko si'i Pulela'a 'oku tau tapale ... noooooo .....ka toe (vale) siasi 'o ui taua ki ha potu siasi, pea sai ke ta 'alu mo 'eta fiepoto ko eni ki he issue 'o 'Pulela'a" 'o fkkoloa'aki si'i ngaahi laumalie .... 'o fiemalie pee he langa fale ki hevani ...etc

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Tv ‘oku hange kiate au ko ha leka ‘uiha pee he na’e nofo tongoleleka pee ia ko ‘ene nofo he fanga e kau ‘uihaa h h h .  kae ko e saiti’i e ava ke mapuni ‘e fe’unga pe ia mo veituna he ko e masi’i va’inga volipolo ia ha ha ha ha...

[Tevita Langi]

Malo malo e pootatala. Kae fai atu ha'atau lotu ka tau toki hoko atu, he 'oku ou tui 'oku 'aonga pe lotu ha potu pe, po talanoa, taalanga,polau, totalo, faikava etc

'Eiki, 'omi mahino ki homau 'atamai ke mau mahino'i ange 'a e fiema'u tokoni homau kaungaamo'ui, mei he fakatooli'a e mahino homau 'atamai. 'Ai ke mau tomu'a tui atu pe ki he 'Afiona, kae toki fofoa'i ai 'emau mahino. 'Ia Kalaisi Sisu ko ho 'Alo, ka ko homau fakamo'ui.

                                                                                                                                                                                             'Emeni.

Kau tangata, malo e fakatalanoa/fakafekiki/fakamaama etc. Ka 'oku ou 'amanaki atu mo e fehu'i kuo fai 'e Veituna-Ko e ha e 'aonga e ngaahi fakakohukohu ni ki he palopalema 'o Pulela'a? or myself? or my ministry? or anybody?  or pe ko 'etau fe'auhi faka'ali'ali pe 'oku tau lava o potalanoa fakamamani lahi mo fakatonga pe fakafolofola pe faka-KK?? 

Kaikehe, ko 'eku lotu pe ke tau fetokoni'aki 'o fefua'aki hotau ngaahi mafasia'anga koe'uhi ko e ngaue 'a e 'Eiki 'oku tau fakakaungataamaki ai.

'ofa mo e lotu

tlangi

[Sami Pakofe]

Malo 'aupito Faifekau ( Tev Langi ) ,, kau tali atu e fehu'ii kapau
oku mo fiema'u .

KOE MATU'AKI FAKAHAA E TOTONU KIHE KAKAI , pea FOUA E TU'UTU'UNI 'AE
FAIR TRADING , Fakahaa kihe Kakai 'ae MO'ONI moe TOTONU ..

'Oku ikai ke 'iai ha me'a 'e Lahi kihe Kakai , Ka ke Fakaha ange koe
ha koaa e me'a Kuo Hoko,,,,,,,," Te'eki pe ke lea ange 'ae Kau
Faifekau ni ",, kei talitali pe kakai kiha taimi tenau lea ange ai..

ka lava pe me'a 'i Olunga kuou lave atu kiai , koe lava ia 'ae me'a
kotoa pe,, he 'e ala leva 'ae kakai kotoa pe,,,,, Oku ikai fie ala e
kakai Tokolahi,, " KOE 'UHI HE OKU TE'EKI KE FAKAHA MAI IA 'EHE KAU
TAKI NI , OKU 'IAI HA ME'A 'E HOKO... hoiiiiiiii....

malo,

sami.

[hingano pakileata]

Sami ko e mo'oni ia e palopalema ni, kapau kuo fkaha mai 'ehe kau taki e palopalema mahalo pe na'a fkanima maka e kakai ki hano alasi e mo'ua..ko'eku ki'i fifili pe ,,"kapau 'e fakaha mai na'e kai 'eha taha e pa'anga e Siasi(tulou atu)'o tupunga ai e tonounou ni, 'e hoko nai ia koha ivi malohi ki ha'ate ala 'o tokoni ki he palopalema 'o Pulela'aa? pe 'e toe hoko e fakaha mai e tupu'anga ia palopalema ko ha me'a ia 'e toe lahi ange ai ha longoa'a?

 

kae hei'ilo pe ..

2013/2/25 Sami Pakofe <smpa...@gmail.com>

[Tevita Finau]

'Emeni.Malo tlangi. tfinau

2013/2/25 Tevita Langi <tlan...@gmail.com>

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['Epeli Taungapeau]

Faifekau ko e tali lotu lelei pe masi’I  ko e fo’I kumala mo e fo’I kanahe. ‘Emeni!

 

From: tasil...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tasil...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tevita Langi
Sent: Monday, 25 February 2013 5:49 p.m.
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] loka 'a pulela'a koaa

 

Malo malo e pootatala. Kae fai atu ha'atau lotu ka tau toki hoko atu, he 'oku ou tui 'oku 'aonga pe lotu ha potu pe, po talanoa, taalanga,polau, totalo, faikava etc

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[Sami Pakofe]

Hingano, Malo hono faofao mai ePotalanoa kihe mahino,, kau ki'i lave
atu pe kiai...
Kuo 'osi a'u e ngaahi Pisinisi moe ngaahi Siasi heni kihe Tumutumu
'enau Fononga Fakataha moe Lao ( Fair Trading ) pea kohono fakakoloa
ko'enau mahino'ii e me'a totonu koee ke Fai, o Fakatatau kihe
tu'utu'uni 'ae Lao kiha Fakalele 'oha Kautaha, Kulupu, Ngaue'anga kau
ai moe Siasi..

Oku tu'u tatali e kakai kenau Tokoni, pea pehee kihe ngaahi Kulupu,
taautaha, ka oku nau kei Tatali , he Oku te'eki ke pehee mai 'ehe Kau
Taki 'o Pulela'aa oku nau Faingatamaki ...

Hili Koia kuo 'osi ihe Media 'ae Fakaevaha kuo hoko, pea ko'ena ne
'osi Fakaha 'ehe Konifelenisi kenau Tokoni, pea Fakahaaange 'ehe kau
Taki " koe LOtu pe "..

Hingano, Koe talanoa ihe taimi ni, oku ikai koha talanao "LOTU", ka
koe " MO'UA KE TOTONGI".. pea kohono totongi heikai lahi ia kihe
kakai, KA OKA FAKAHAA MAI 'EHE KAU TAKI , " ko'eni kuo fehalaki ".,,
KOE Fakaha mai kihe kakai "ko'enau HIFO KI LALO meihe Manangement ,
Kae Hopo hake ha kakai Fo'ou....

Kuou tui ta'e veiveiua, ka Fakaha mai 'ehe kau Taki 'ae Tukunga 'o
Pulela'a 'aki emo'oni kihe Kakai, pea kuou tui ta'e veiveiua, heikai
hano taimi kuo ala atu e kakai 'o Tokoni...tatau aipe ia pe na'e kai
'eha taha pe koha toe tukunga 'oe mole 'ae silini ,,, Koe tali 'ae
kakai ke Fakahaa mai 'ehe kau taki 'ae me'a kuo hoko,, pea ka ikai
ko'enau fai fononga aipe moe veiveiua ...

Hingano, fakamalo atu he kei fietalanoa lelei , mai,,, he kuou ongo'ii
hono tala kuou " siokovi peau lau kovi ki Pulela'aa, kae hili koia
Kohoku loto oku ikai ilo'ii 'ehe taha, 'eku kau he tu'uketaukave'ii e
'apini, he na'e hoko koe Hufanga'anga 'oe kakai Tonga,,, pea neongo ia
ka he'ikai ke tuku ai 'etau feinga ke tala emo'oni moe totonu kihe
kakai..

Kuou 'Ofeina, e Ngaahi fofonga 'oe kau Setuata moe Fangatokoua oku nau
ihe Malumalu 'o Pulela'aa, he kohoku ngaahi kaungame'a, pea oku nau
'ilo'ii pe 'ae mo'oni,,,, ka oku nau kei tatali kiha taimi 'e Ofongi
ai kinautolu 'ehe kau taki ni...'aki ha Fakaha mai e Mo'oni...

koe fakatalanoa pe ;;

sami.

[hingano pakileata]

Sami

 

poupou atu ki he fakatalanoa, he ko e mo'oni ka 'o ka femahino'aki e taki mo e me'a 'oku ne taki pea 'e ngaholo e faifatongia. Pea hange ko ho'o lave ko e me'a fakaniti 'oku fai ki ai e hoha'a. Sami 'oku ou kau au he tui( mahalo ko au pe ia) ko 'ete totongi ha'ate mo'ua ki ha taha ko e Lotu ia 'e taha, ko e 'uhi he na'a te ngaue'aki e ivi e toko taha koia kete mo'ui ai . pea kapau tete hola mei ai pea mo'oni e lea 'a e motu'a mei he funga fonua " koe lotu pe kae loi pe" :):) tulou atu mo ha'a lotu...

2013/2/25 Sami Pakofe <smpa...@gmail.com>

[Molisi Mila]

Ongo Faifekau malie lahi ho'omo felakuaki pehe 'ehe toko taha kuo 'osi mahino ..kae pehe 'ehe toko taha 'oku te'eki ke mahino ia....ko e me'a 'oku ou fie fehu'i atu kapau kuo mahino ko e ha hano 'aonga ke tau toe va lau ki ai? .... pea kapau 'oku te'eki mahino ko e 'uhi 'oku 'ikai lea mai ha taha mei Pulela'a ...ko e fehu'i leva ko e ha hano 'aonga 'etau valau he me'a 'oku 'ikai ha'atau teitei 'ilo ki ai?.. pea kapau 'oku mo loto pe ke tau hoko atu ki he fo'i TA'E MAHINO KOIA ko e me'a pe te tau fai ko e lau'i kovi'i ha taha ...pe te tau lea ta'e 'ofa ki ha taha...pe te tau lea ta'e 'ilo kiha me'a ...pe te tau fakamahamahalo ki ha me'a/..pea ko hono fakakatoa ko e koto veve pe mo e Lapisi te tau pu'aki mai ...ko 'eku kole atu ko e ifo 'ete lea ki ha taha ka 'oku lea mai pea ka 'oku te 'ai'ai toko taha pe kita.'oku kakato ai 'a e sio lalo ...fiepoto...fie ma'oni'oni...fie'ilo'ilo..PEA 'E A'U LEVA SI'I KAINGA LOTU IA KE HANGE HA FO'I PULU 'A PEPE \o folahi pea molu...malie e?Ka 'oku 'ikai ke tau 'ilo ha faito'o 'o e lavea pea te faito'o a 'e kita e lavea hoto ngutu ..malie e?....   Mo e hufaki aipe ... Tahifisi... --- On Thu, 21/2/13, tv <ti.va...@gmail.com> wrote: From: tv <ti.va...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: [tasilisili] loka 'a pulela'a koaa To: tasil...@googlegroups.com Received: Thursday, 21 February, 2013, 5:28 PM 2013/2/21 Sione M. Veituna <svei...@yahoo.com>

Sami, Kuo osi mahino e issue a Pulelaá, koe ha sio loto tokoua?

----------------- Faifekau, kataki atu 'oku te'eki mahino e issue 'o Pulela'a ki he tokolahi. Ne 'i ai e issue 'i homau fonua ni (SLC) pea tau fkmalo he 'i heni tonu 'a Rev Sifa Hingano mei he lotofale 'o e UMC 'o tau potalanoa ki ai. Pea haa mai e ngaahi me'a ke fai ai ha tokoni ('i he hufia mo e haafua). 'Oku te'eki pee mahino e issue 'o Pulela'a ki he tokolahi he 'oku 'ikai ke nau fie ha'u ke tau potalanoa he fale ni. Pea 'asinga ai he ko e fale potalanoa eni ia (toki lele ai pee mo e lotu 'a T Langi ....etc). Pea ka 'oku 'ikai ke nau fie lea mai ke tau potalanoa pea sai pee ka e tuku ai pee ke mau popolave ta'emahino pe mau tolu ai. He ke mahino he 'oku mahino e fa'ahinga issue pehe ni? Ne mahino 'ane fee ha issue fk-siasi? 'E toki mahino ia ha holoholo hifo e ngaahi feinga pa'anga 'oku fai ki muli mei Tonga .... etc

[hingano pakileata]

Mila

 

ko e poini mahu'inga ena ia , kou kole atu sami tuku a si'i ngaahi e kainga lotu he 'oku 'ai ai ha'o ta'e fai ha ki'i tokoni mo ho'o fa'a lea ..hhh. poupou atu

2013/2/25 Molisi Mila <molis...@yahoo.co.nz>

[Tevita Langi]

tamasi'i talauhuhu'i mo'oni ko e hingano hahahahaha mhk ne 'ai ke fai 'etau lotu kae ki'i taimi ke tuku 'eku kata he kaakaa 'a Hingano kae toki fai atu 'etau lotu eeeee

[tv]

Ko e haa koaa 'oku 'uli ai homou laumalie he'emau talanoa ta'emahino? Mou 'ofa mai moutolu 'o hiki atu ki ha tepile 'e taha ka e tuku mai 'emau ki'i ta'emahino he ko mautolu pee 'e tu'u he 'aho 'o e fkmaau ..... mou fkmokomoko kaungaa pilikimi. He 'e faai atu pee pea 'e fua kotoa 'e Hingano e hia ko 'ene 'eke me'a mahino ki he kau ta'emahino.

'Oua 'e 'uli homou laumalie hono fkmaau'i 'etau tasilisili moe mole pongipongia ai ho'omou me'i kelesi mei 'aho tapu. Mou sio kuo 'ikai toe lotu 'a Tlangii, kuo kata pee ...

2013/2/25 Molisi Mila <molis...@yahoo.co.nz>

[tv]

'Ikai koaa masi'i Faifekau kuo ou 'ohovale he tausino 'a e timi 'Eua ...hanga mai ia 'o fkmatala'i e anga 'eku lea, 'eku aloof, mo 'eku too ki 'olunga mo too ki fee, mo 'eku haa mo e haa ka e 'ikai ke keep your eyes on the ball ...lol. Mahalo ko 'ene feinga mai ke ma lau ako pea mo'oni e lau 'a e motu'a Setuata ki he toua'aa '... toua'a .. ko ho'o sio pehee mai he te ke kaataki'i ke ta ngalivale ...'

Pope, kou malie'ia eni he hifo 'a e Tu'itapu homau siasi. Ko e toki hoko eni ha me'a pehee ni foki he hisitolia 'o esiasi ni. Tukukehe ange ngaahi me'akehekehe ia 'oku lau fekau'aki mo e fo'i 'ai ko eni 'a e Tu'itapu, ka ko e lau 'oku ou malie'ia taha ai ko e pehee - the Pope makes us realise that after all, he is only human! By resigning and saying it's because of his health, it makes him human.

Hangee 'oku hot hot 'etau lave ki hotau fangatokoua 'i Pulela'aa, ka ko e me'a tatau pe eni ia ne hoko he tasilisili ne fai he ngaahi ta'u mai ko ee fekau'aki mo e 'eke pe 'oku 'i ai nai ha faingata'a. They need to know we all are human, and they aren't the only one 'oku hoko ai e me'a ni. Ko homau fu'u fale lotu talaaa eni ko Crystal Cathedral 'oku pehee pe mo ia ... mo fee fua. 'Oku saisai ange honau faingata'a'ia he ngaahi faingata'a'ia fkloto ia 'e ni'ihi ..... hahhh

(tuku aa na'a toe faai atu e saisaitii ia 'o toe mapuni pee fo'i ava ee ...

2013/2/25 Iki Pope <iki....@tonganyouth.org.nz>

 

Rev Veituna .... haven't a clue what you are on about! Fu'u loloa ho'o nafu pee fo'i poini 'e taha .... pea mo'oni e fkhaua 'a e faiako 'akapulu ki he ki'i leka Tongoleleka - masi'i ... ko e anga e me'aa ko 'ete va'inga ke avangi e timi 'e taha ... ko koe 'oku ke saiti'i pe 'e koe ava 'o mapuni ia. But I hope ne lava lelei e Sapate mo hono ngaahi fatongia.

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Tv ‘oku hange kiate au ko ha leka ‘uiha pee he na’e nofo tongoleleka pee ia ko ‘ene nofo he fanga e kau ‘uihaa h h h .  kae ko e saiti’i e ava ke mapuni ‘e fe’unga pe ia mo veituna he ko e masi’i va’inga volipolo ia ha ha ha ha...

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[Tevita Langi]

Masi'i Angakehe, ko e toki tuku eni 'eku kata he kaakaa 'a Hingano, kae fai atu 'etau lotu kae toki hoko atu 'etau taalanga ta'emahino eee.

'Eiki lelei, tapuaki mai 'a e Tu'i Tapu mo e kau taki lotu kotoa pe he ko e tangata pe kimautolu. Ka kuo ke hoko mai 'i he tatau 'o e tangata ke ta e sipinga. He ta 'oku malava pe ke mau ma'u 'a e haohaoa fakakalisitiane 'i mamani 'o toki fakakakato atu ki 'Itaniti. Pea taapuaki mai 'a e ngaahi faingata'aia kotoa pe 'oku hoko he ngaahi siasi, pea mo honau kau muimui. Ke mau tui aipe kiate ko e hangee ko e lau 'a e punake, tui mo e fa'a kaataki ko e mahafu ia. Kau fua kolosi pe ke a'u, 'enau kalauni kuo pau, 'oiau 'a e fiefia.

                                                                                                                                                                'Emeni

Hoko atu Angakehe 'a e taalanga. Manatu pe 'oku 'ikai tapu ke lea ki he kau takilotu etc, tuku kehe pe 'a Sisu eeee

[Molisi Mila]

Kau tangata ae Eiki oku toe alu ke koe kaupo'uli ange etau lavelave he neongo NAE TE'EKI ke ngofua e fakaniupapua ha lotokolo koeku toki sio eni kiai koe uhimga ia eku ohovale knha tangata ako lao oku ikai uhinga ki ai e Lao.. Knha tangata ako Tohitapu oku ikai uhinga kiai e Folofola...pe knha tama ako naa ne liaki a api kae alu o paea mo fekumi ki he maama oku kei fkniupapua pe he loto kolo koe ha fau ia?

Tahifisi...

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To: <tasil...@googlegroups.com>

> --- On *Thu, 21/2/13, tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>* wrote:
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> From: tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: [tasilisili] loka 'a pulela'a koaa
> To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
> Received: Thursday, 21 February, 2013, 5:28 PM
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> 2013/2/21 Sione M. Veituna <svei...@yahoo.com<http://nz.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=svei...@yahoo.com>

[Sami Pakofe]

Ta'u 'aki 'eni e hongofulumataha 'oe paenga ni, te'eki keu sio he me'a Koe heu talanoa, kae ikai omai ha 'uhinga..Koe paenga ni,oku ikai tapu e talanoa ai, ka oku ke fie lea pea ke lea .Oku ngata pe hoto lotofale tete ngofua kete pule mo ta'ata'ofi talanoa ai.  Koia fklele'ii homou loto, he taumaiaa oku tautalanoa ha me'a loi..

[hingano pakileata]

Amen

 

Tv mo Ti Langi kou kokle fakamolemole atu he 'eku kaunoa holo he talanga mahu'inga mo ma'a lahi..Ti Langi keu kuikui au he lotu kake kata koe , ko e ha hano oli 'eku 'apsia ,hhhhh tulou atu ..

2013/2/26 Tevita Langi <tlan...@gmail.com>

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Mou fiemalie aa ko Pulela'a kuo mole, talanoa ia kuo a'u mai he taimi ni.

"Ofa pe 'oku 'ikai ko e mo'oni eni.

takamuli

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Re: Re: Re: [tasilisili] loka 'a pulela'a koaa

>> fale potalanoa eni ia (toki lele ai pee mo e lotu 'a T Langi ...etc).

>>
>> Pea ka 'oku 'ikai ke nau fie lea mai ke tau potalanoa pea sai pee ka e
>> tuku ai pee ke mau popolave ta'emahino pe mau tolu ai. He ke mahino he 'oku
>> mahino e fa'ahinga issue pehe ni? Ne mahino 'ane fee ha issue fk-siasi? 'E
>> toki mahino ia ha holoholo hifo e ngaahi feinga pa'anga 'oku fai ki muli
>> mei Tonga .... etc
>> --
>> --
>> Ko e tu'asila ke 'ave ki ai ha'o tasilisili ko e
>> tasil...@googlegroups.com
>> Ke to'o ho tu'asila mei he memipa he Tasilisili, email ki he
>> tasilisili-...@googlegroups.com
>> Ko e website 'a e Tasilisili ko e

>> http://groups.googlecom/group/tasilisili

[hingano pakileata]

'Oi au e fakapo me'a fakamamahi ia mo faka'ofa kapau ko e mo'oni 'ena Takamuli...

2013/2/26 <sep...@optusnet.com.au>

[Molisi Mila]

TANGATA.... Kapau koha talanoa pe pea faka'ofo'ofa pea kapau oku kau ai moha tauhukevala pea puke kei taimi na'a lavea ai moha taha he kaunga'api. KOE 'UHINGA IA.. KOE TA'OFI E FAKANIUPAPUA kapau oku ikai a'u kiai ho'o kumi 'uhinga pea teu sipela atu, Koe taimi oku ke fakaniupapua ai ha hoosi (hufanga atu)ko koe pe ia oku ke oli'ia ai kae taumaiaa keke lavelave 'iloa ae mamahi oku fekuki moe manu ni...hooii 'asili ene hela ho'o ta'emahino pea mo ho'o toe fakakata,aki he kakai masi'i kataki neongo knhoo mou hoosi ka oku tapu 'aupito keke fkmamahi'i pehe alright.

>> fale potalanoa eni ia (toki lele ai pee mo e lotu 'a T Langi ....etc).

>>
>> Pea ka 'oku 'ikai ke nau fie lea mai ke tau potalanoa pea sai pee ka e
>> tuku ai pee ke mau popolave ta'emahino pe mau tolu ai. He ke mahino he
'oku
>> mahino e fa'ahinga issue pehe ni? Ne mahino 'ane fee ha issue fk-siasi?
'E
>> toki mahino ia ha holoholo hifo e ngaahi feinga pa'anga 'oku fai ki muli
>> mei Tonga .... etc
>> --
>> --
>> Ko e tu'asila ke 'ave ki ai ha'o tasilisili ko e
>> tasil...@googlegroups.com
>> Ke to'o ho tu'asila mei he memipa he Tasilisili, email ki he
>> tasilisili-...@googlegroups.com
>> Ko e website 'a e Tasilisili ko e

[tv]

Ko e haa ho mamahi matapule? Fakamolemole atu he na'e fktupu mai e fanga monumanu (hufanga atu) ke tau pule ki ai. Ko e toki fkotu'u lao pee ke piti mo fkniupapua 'e kitautolu tangata ko 'etau fie fk'aonga'i hotau ki'i poto fo'u maea .. pea fie piti e piti, pea fie fkniupapua e fkniupapua. Ka na'e' ikai tetei 'ilo 'e he fanga monumanu ia 'e 'i ai e 'aho 'e pehe'i kinautolu ... 'o fkpiti mo fkniupapua .. fk'ofa pee si'i fktupu

Mou fiemalie pee ke tau tasilisili ka e tuku e tuki below the belt foki...toe si'i pea tuku e me'aa ka e 'ai e me'a ia 'oku ke loto koe ki ai ... he TLangi ee ... 'a e haa koaaa .... hhhhahah

2013/2/26 Molisi Mila <molis...@yahoo.co.nz>

[Faka'osi Maama]

Talanoa mo Richard Garland mei he kautaha na'a nau fakahoko e fakatau tuki 'o Pulela'aa, kuo ma'u 'e he kautaha lotu ka 'oku 'ikai ko ha lotu kalisitiane 'a Pulela'a.

mo e 'ofa lahi ki he kainga kotoa pe

Niuleka

2013/2/26 hingano pakileata <pakileat...@gmail.com>

[Touhuni Hala Puopua]

Ne 'osi mahino p锟斤拷 mei fuoloa e mole 'a Pulela'aa锟斤拷 kae kei vilitaki p锟斤拷 ni'ihi 'e 'osi p锟斤拷 hono t锟斤拷.  Ne u 'osi kole mei he kamata'anga锟斤拷 ke tau ng锟斤拷ue'aki e 'atamai lelei kuo fakakoloa 'aki kitautolu 'e he 'Eiki锟斤拷.  Ne talu hono p锟斤拷 lohiaki'i 'e he kau taki lotu 'o Pule'a'aa锟斤拷 e k锟斤拷inga lotu锟斤拷, 'o tala 'oku 'ikai ha toe mo'ua 'o Pulela'锟斤拷 kuo 'osi hono totongi talu p锟斤拷 mei he 'aho ne huufi ai 'a Pulela'aa锟斤拷.  Ne tau hoko atu 'o 'omai e 'Initia, talamai 'e he ni'ihi heni kau ai e kau faifekau, ko e mana eni 'a e 'Eiki锟斤拷.  Ka ne u kei taukave'i p锟斤拷 'e kei laka ange p锟斤拷 'etau fakakaukau lelei 'aki e 'atamai ne 'omai 'e he 'Otua锟斤拷 he ne hili'锟斤拷ngongo mai p锟斤拷 e loi锟斤拷 ia. Ne 'ikai mahino kiate au pe koe h锟斤拷 ne toe fakangalingali lelei ai e tokolahi heni, hili i锟斤拷 kuo nau 'osi 'ilo'i he'ikai lava 'e he k锟斤拷inga Tonga锟斤拷 'o totongi e fu'u laui miliona ko eni锟斤拷.  'Ikai ngata ai锟斤拷 ne 'osi 'omai e ngaahi fakamatala 'a e pangik锟斤拷 mo e mafai fakalao锟斤拷 kae kei ta'emahino p锟斤拷 e vaa'ihala ia 'o e lao锟斤拷 ki he tokolahi.  Ko e faka'ofa taha锟斤拷 e k锟斤拷inga lotu锟斤拷 he na'e lohiaki'i p锟斤拷 'o a'u ki he ngata'anga, 'enau 'ohovale he 锟斤拷 atu kuo fakapo'uli mai e falelotu锟斤拷 pea ko e tangata le'o锟斤拷 (security guard) p锟斤拷 'oku tu'u mai锟斤拷. 
 
K锟斤拷taki 'oua 'e ta'ofi e p锟斤拷talanoa he me'a锟斤拷 ni pea 'oua 'e ta'ofi ha talanoa ki Pulela'锟斤拷. 'Oku lahi e ngaahi fehu'i 'oku fiema'u ke tali.  Kuo tau talanoa ki he puna vava锟斤拷 'a e tangata锟斤拷, ki he t锟斤拷nounou 'a e kau taki fonua tokolahi pea fakafisi atu e ni'ihi, t锟斤拷nounou 'a e kau pule kautaha 'e ni'ihi pea fakanofo atu mo kinautolu, pea tau talanoa ki he 'ikai potupotu tatau e tufaki 'o e faingam锟斤拷lie锟斤拷 mo hono t锟斤拷palasia mo hono p锟斤拷'usi'i e kakai tokolahi he tafa'aki kehekehe 'o e mo'ui锟斤拷.  'Oku 'ikai ui ia ko e talanoa ta'e'ofa pea 'oku 'ikai ui ia ko e fie m锟斤拷'oni'oni ka 'oku tau talanoa mahino ki he ngaahi faingata'a ko ia锟斤拷.  Ko e h锟斤拷 hake leva ai 'a Pulela'锟斤拷 mo e ng锟斤拷ue pango ko eni kuo nau fai 'o t锟斤拷palasia e mo'ui 'a e k锟斤拷inga lotu锟斤拷 hono monga'i, 'isa malanga'i kinautolu 'aki e fa'ahinga tok锟斤拷teline ke nau laku 'enau mo'ui锟斤拷 ke 'osi ki he fu'u nge'esi fale ko eni ke 'uma'aki?  'Osi ko ia锟斤拷 'oku 'ikai lava 'a 'api, fusimo'omo e f锟斤拷nau锟斤拷, 'ikai lato 'enau fiema'u fakaako mo e fiema'u fakas锟斤拷siale pea 'oku 'osi 'ilo'i 'e he tokolahi heni.  Hoko atu e f锟斤拷nau 'e ni'ihi 'o fai hia 'o nau iku ki pil锟斤拷sone.  Mole e fale ne nofo totongi ai e ni'ihi he Siasi锟斤拷 he na'e 'ikai lava e totongi fakauike锟斤拷, mole mo e ngaahi 'api e ni'ihi ko e 'ikai lava ke t锟斤拷 fakafoki he ne 'osi kotoa 'enau pa'anga锟斤拷 hono laku ki he fu'u nge'esi fale ko eni ne tala ko e polepole pea h锟斤拷kisia ai e tokolahi - hala hano 'aonga, f锟斤拷ngota fai ki he kato ava.  Faka'ofa taha p锟斤拷 e k锟斤拷inga lotu锟斤拷 mo e kakai Tonga 'o e fonua锟斤拷 ni. 
 
Ko e ngaahi fehu'i eni 'oku fiema'u ke tali:
1. Ko e h锟斤拷 nai ha kaveinga ng锟斤拷ue 'a e SUTT 'e fokotu'u ke lava ai 'o t锟斤拷ngata'i 'oua 'e toe hoko ha palopalema peheni he kaha'u?
'Uluaki 'oua 'e toe langa ha fu'u fale lahi peh锟斤拷 ta'e fai ha tokonaki. Ua 'oua 'e toe lohiaki'i mo faka'uto'i e kakai锟斤拷 'aki e tok锟斤拷teline hala ke nau laku 'enau mo'ui锟斤拷 ka nau faka'ofa kinautolu mo honau ngaahi f锟斤拷mili锟斤拷.
2. Ko e h锟斤拷 'oku kei faifekau ai 'a Viliami Tu'akoi mo e kau taki lotu 'o Pulela'aa锟斤拷?  Kuo 'osi totonu ke to'o honau tu'unga锟斤拷 pea fakahifo he kuo nau fakahee'i e laum锟斤拷lie e lauiafe pea nau p锟斤拷'usi'i e falala mo e 'amanaki 'a e kakai he loto'i Siasi?  Ka ko ena kuo fakapale'i 'a Viliami ia 'o 'ave ke faifekau pule 'i Vava'u. 
3. Ko e h锟斤拷 e poa 'a e SUTT he'enau fai e fehikitaki ko eni e kau Faifekau 'i 'Aositel锟斤拷lia锟斤拷 ni?  Ngalingali kuo kaung锟斤拷hia e SUTT 'i Tonga锟斤拷 'i he tafa'aki ko eni锟斤拷.  Kei kei folau mai p锟斤拷 e Palesiteni 'o e Siasi锟斤拷 'o a'u ki he fu'u k锟斤拷toanga fakalusa ko ena ne nau hiki puha fuakava ai锟斤拷, lolotonga ia ne 'osi 'ilo p锟斤拷 ko e koto loi.
 
Kuo hoko e lotu锟斤拷 ia ko e vaa'ihala ke lavaki'i ai 'e he kau takilotu锟斤拷 e fanga sipi锟斤拷.  Anga f锟斤拷f锟斤拷 'enau kei hoko atu honau ngaahi lakanga?
 
Uani.
 

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Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:39:42 +1300

Subject: Re: Re: Re: [tasilisili] loka 'a pulela'a koaa

From: pakileat...@gmail.com
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com

2013/2/26 <sep...@optusnet.com.au>

>> Kuo osi mahino e issue a Pulela锟斤拷, koe ha sio loto tokoua?

[hingano pakileata]

'ei ongo tama mo kataki ke mo lele he leini ko'ena kae fefe kimautolu si'i kau tufi momo..mo me'a mai a ki he fu'u 'api 'oku tau talanoa ki ai kuo ongo na hake hangehange kuo mole ia... ki'i hu mai ange Ti Langi ha ki'i lotu? ko e ola e ho'o fa'a lotu masi'i ko e mole 'api ia..fakamafana atu

2013/2/26 tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>

[Sifa Hingano]

Na'e fai 'emau ki'i faikava e kau kolisi tutuku meihe Sia 'anepo pea a'u mai 'emau talanoa ki he'etau tasilisili,peau peheange 'oku ou sai'ia au he'etau tasilisili he felafoaki fefeka 'etau ngaahi fakakaukau, ho kohono mo'oni koe kee 'ae fakakaukau kaa 'oku tau fa'u famili fo'ou mo fakatupu maheni he tasilisili. 'Oku ou kau au he fa'ahinga 'oku 'ikai ke sai'ia hono feinga ke tu'usi vave ha veipa tokua 'oku tau kee. 'Oku 'ikai mo'oni ia ki he'eku sio ,koia 'oku ou fakamalo atu he loto'aki e fe'enasi'aki,toe pe ke 'iai ha'atau reunion ketau fesiofaki mata peau sio atu kihomou fanga ki'i mata talahu'i.

Sifa Higano,
Pastor, Genesis UMC

[hingano pakileata]

Uani

 

Kataki pe he fiematamu'a e fehu'i ni he 'oku fu'u tomui 'aupito au ki he ngaahi ongoongo fekau'aki mo ha me'a ne hoko 'i Pulela'a..ko e fehu'i fakatatau ki ho'o lave " ko e ha e hiki puha fuakava 'oku ke lave ki ai? tulou pe mo ha'a lotu..

2013/2/26 Sifa Hingano <pas...@genesischurch.org>