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http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2011/03/29/156421_local-news.html
malo
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Sione M. Veituna
A CHURCH has suspended its reverend 15 months after he defied orders to close a homeless shelter.
The reverend Hedley Fihaki from the Cairns Emmanuel Uniting Church was on Sunday suspended for three months.
But
members from his congregation called the suspension a “bully move” by
the Brisbane head office who disciplined him for challenging directives
and helping the homeless by delaying the eviction.
In December
2009, the church was told to eject the homeless from the Good Samaritan
Ministry Centre in Gatton St due to fire safety and building compliance
concerns.
Just weeks before Christmas the 26 people staying at the shelter faced being left with nowhere to go.
Dr
Fihaki defied the deadlines for eviction until new accommodation was
found at a Sheridan St motel and a promise made for negotiations to
reopen the facility.
But the old shelter remains vacant and now the minister of more than five years is being punished for his stand.
In
a letter by the reverend Bruce Johnson, the moderator of the Queensland
synod, read out on Sunday, the congregation was told there were
“serious concerns” at Dr Fihaki’s actions and he had breached code of
ethics and failed to fulfil part of his sworn ministerial duties.
He was suspended for three months with pay and has to work with a mentor before he can return.
The move has “disgusted” his loyal congregation of about 120 many of whom were in tears on Sunday, Graham Horton said.
“He’s done nothing ethically wrong,” Mr Horton said.
“But because he didn’t follow directions he has been slapped with the ban.”
Brian Stevenson said Dr Fihaki had acted with compassion, understanding and kindness.
“I don’t think the same could be said of the church authorities in this case.”
He could not understand why it took 15 months to suspend him and said the wait would have been punishment enough.
His wife Carol Stevenson said the congregation backed Dr Fihaki who followed “God’s law, not man’s law” during the crisis.
“It was a congregation decision
– so should we all be suspended?” Mrs Stevenson said.
“In my opinion they were being bullies to suspend him. It was a bully move.”
The Good Samaritan program continues to operate in Sheridan St.
pas...@genesischurch.org
Sam Pakofe
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Sepesi H Piukala
Sione M. Veituna
Tau manatu kia Dietrich Bonhoeffer eee.....mo Matini Lutelo eee, he tau mo e sisitamu...
ofa atu Hedley he fefa'uhi 'oku ke lolotonga 'iai,
mo e hufia
Ma'ananga
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To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 10:36:38 PM
Subject: RE: [tasilisili] The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Sitiveni Faupula
Sione M. Veituna
vakai pe na'a 'oku 'omai ha me'a mei tu'a 'o nusi mai he tu'utu'uni ke suspend e faifekau mo si'i-'ene-fie-'ofa ki he kau ta'e-ma'u-ha-'api
Ma'ananga
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Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 11:06:50 PM
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Sepesi H Piukala
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Sione M. Veituna
Kaikehe foki, kapau pe kuo ai ha me'a ia kuo likoliko ai loto 'o e kau taki e siasi, na'a mo 'ete tu'uhake e tala ai pe ia kuo te talangata'a, pea tautea e ki'i me'a ia, kae lakai pe fu'u me'a ia, ikai koe me'a eni oku ui ko e puhi e lango kae folo e kameli....
oku ou me'a 'ia pe au ia he 'enau fakatokanga'i e ta'e fai 'e Hedley ki he tu'utu'uni 'a e siasi as reported on the Cairns news, kae fefe fu'u kakai mo e kau faifekau oku ikai fai ki he akonaki 'a e siasi, .....uee ngalo ange kuo osi ofe'i hake afo ia o kau mai e me'a i na'e ikai ko e me'a 'a e siasi ki loto, kae ngangana hifo he tele'a ia 'a e me'a na'e maheni mo e siasi 'a e fakaafe aunofo mo e fakama'ama'a e kavenga ma'ae masiva...
'ofa pe Hedley oku ke ma'u kelesi ke talia e tu'utu'uni ko eni oku fai kiate koe.. "To be torn unmercifully by external forces, and still to preserve one's inward integrity, is to know the discipline that endures"~V. Raymond Edman~
ifo e lotu hono pehe'i kita....
mo e ofa atu
Ma'ananga
Maafu Palu
Tau manatu ai ki he ta'anga 'a Molitoni: "Ko Tonu 'oku lusa pe,
Kaukaua pe 'a Loi".
Ka ko e anga aipe ia 'etau fua kolosi 'o muimui ki he 'Eiki 'ofa ne
mate ma'a Tonga. Faingofua ke lotu 'oka tokolahi...Ke ke Taniela...
lotu toko taha.
Tau lotu ke fai 'e he 'Eiki hono fakaai e ngaahi fiema'u fakasino 'a e
faifekau mo hono famili, he taimi ko eni 'oku 'ikai ma'u ai ha'ane
ngaue.
Sepesi, vakai na'a 'oku faingamalie ke fai atu ha tokoni 'a e peleti
ki muli hotau fai'angalotu ki he faifekau mo hono famili ke fakaha'aki
pe 'etau tukufakataha mo ia he faingata'a ni.
Si'oto'ofaatu.
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>>Tau manatu kia Dietrich Bonhoeffereee.....mo Matini Lutelo eee, he tau
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Ma'afu Palu
"Love endures all things" Saul of Tarsus d. AD 64.
seni taniela
"Ko e taha e palopalema e feinga tokoni ki he masivaa ko e centralize e mafai(power) mo e founga(strategy) tokonii ke pule'i mo fakalele 'e he pule'angaa pee ko ha kau ma'u mafai ma'olunga ka e 'ikai tuku mai ki he kakai pe local church/local people ke nau fakakaukau'i e founga lelei taha ke nau tokoni'i'aki e palopalema oku fehangahangai mo honau kakaii." Ko e fakaanga'i ia 'e he 'etita 'o e World Magazine ko e tangata Siu Kalisitiane ko Marvin Olasky 'a e founga tokoni a Amelika ki he masiva 'i he'ene tohi ko e The Tragedy of American Compassion. Na'e kau 'a Olasky he kau advisor kia Bush he'ene policy fekau'aki mo e charities 'aia ne kau e tohi ko ena he tufa he kau staff a Bush pea nene influence e policy a Bush ke fai hono tokoni'i faith based charities ke nau fai e ngaue ki he tokoni ki he masivaa.
I he'etau vakai ki he case ko eni a Dr Fihaki oku haa mahino 'a e 'oho fakapo'uli 'a e kau taki lotu he'enau nofo mei he head quarter 'o assume oku nau 'ilo mo taukeiange he local people fakataha mo 'enau faifekau (Hedley) he deal mo e palopalema homeless i Cairns. Kuo hoko e well intended policies (eg. uhila e facilities) ke ne fakapekia e taumu'a ne langa ai e fu'u falee --ke tokoni'i e kau homeless. Hangee ia ha pehee kuo maumau e aircondition tonu ke se'e aa ki hala e kau homeless kae'oua kuo fix enau aircon!!!
Kapau oku ha mahino oku poupou'i e he kainga lotu e faitu'utu'uni a Hedley, taa oku tau tui ta'etoeveiveiua ko e fo'i move fakapolitikale 'a e kau ma'u mafaii....kau ma'u mafai lotuu...ta kuo tekeutua mai e founga fakalele fakakalapu 'a homou kau tamaa Ozie e!!!taimi eni koee kuo hoko ai e siasii ko e kalapuu
Taimi ke ai ha tohi 'o pehee The Joke of Aussie's Church Comapassion. Malie Ozie Ozie Ozie!!!
'ofa atu Hedley |
Suka Etu - Tollgroup
From: tasil...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tasil...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sione M. Veituna
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:25 AM
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Sione M. Veituna
malo mu'a etau lava kihe aho fakakoloa koeni, toesi'i pe ka'anga e mahina... pe na'a kuo ta'emahino ha me'a kia koe fekau'aki mo e suspend o e faifekau, hange ko ho'o fifili....ko e tali kiai ....ta'emahino atu, ha ha ha ha ha, (mhk)
mo'oni ho lau 'oku 'uihinga 'enautolu ke tautea'i kae ma'u ai e vacation mo vahe pe 'a e faifekau ia .. te manatu ai ki he fakatau o Siosifa ki Isipite, 'uhinga enautolu ki he kovi, kae ngaohi ia he 'Eiki ko e koto tapuaki e..... he malieeeeee
Ma'ananga
From: Suka Etu - Tollgroup <Suka...@tollgroup.com>
To: "tasil...@googlegroups.com" <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 6:08:52 AM
Subject: RE: [tasilisili] The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Sione 'Atupuha Koloti
lotu aipe mo e hufia atu tokoua ki he famili!
'oku manatu kihe'eta motu'a tamai Siale! kavekavea'u 'ete tui neongo tete mate ai!
mo e 'ofa
koloti
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penisimani mone
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fakapulia
Suka Etu - Tollgroup
Epeli
On Behalf Of penisimani
mone
...mou kataki, ko e anga pe laulau, he 'oku te'eki ke tau fanongo ki ha
version 'a e Fakatahaa/Siasii...ka 'oku tau kei lotua aipe Siasii mo e si'i
famili na...ke 'ai mo nau ki'i 'eva mai ki Tonga ni ee...
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fakapulia
Fakapulia,
Malo ho’o fkmaama mai mei hena. ‘Uluaki ‘e mahino ange ho’o lau he ko e sio ia mei he tafa’aki mala’e ‘a e kau mamata. Pea ‘oku mo’oni ke tau sio ki he fklukufua ‘o e ngaahi talanoa he ‘oku nau fekau’aki kotoa pe ki he misiona mo e ngaue fkfaifekau ‘I he Siasi. Te tau kei lotu pe ma’a e Faifekau pea mo hono famili pea pehe ki he tu’utu’uni ‘a e siasi pea ko ‘etau fk’apa’apa ia ki he me’a ‘oku hoko neongo ‘oku ‘ikai ongo lelei ki he tokolahi.
Ko e talanoa fklotofale pe ia ‘a e Siasi pea mo ‘ene kau ngaue pea mahalo ‘oku tau ako kotoa mei heni he kehekehe ‘a e ngaahi founga fkhoko ngaue pea mo e ‘ikai muimui ki he founga ‘oku tuku atu.
Fakapulia ka toe ‘eva atu ki Tonga na ‘oku toe kehe ange ha’a moutolu ia taufale!!! Ka ko e ‘atunga ia ‘o kimautolu ko ‘eni na’e ‘ikai ke ‘i he Siaaaa, ‘ikai poto he fkmatapule ‘a e talangata’a!!!! Ka kuo poto foki ‘a Sifa ia ‘i San Jose pea mo Pope ‘I heni – he na’a na ako ‘a e me’a lahi mei he Siaaa, ka koau mo e tokoni’ihi na’e ‘ikai ki he Siaaaa – ‘oku ki’i fkoli he taimi ‘e ni’ihi pea mahalo na’a ko e tapuaki ia!!! Ko e anga pe foki ‘a e fk’uhinga lea Takamuli mo tfinau ki he me’a ‘oku malanga’i ‘e sh ko e ‘ausia. Ka ko e malanga pe mo ‘eni mei he mohenga koia. Kehekehek fk’atakai eee@ Mahalo na’a ko e talanoa ‘eni ke tau sio atu ai ki he Fononga ‘a e lesoni ki he Leniti 4.
Saame 23 – veesi fk’osi “Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life and I shall dwell in the house of the LORD my whole life long.”
Ko e ki’i matavai mo’ui ia Fkpulia – ‘Oku ‘iai ‘a hoku ongo kaume’a falengamamahi – ko goodness mo mercy – na muimui holo pe ‘iate au mo takaua neongo pe ko e ha? He ‘oku na ‘ave au ki he mo’ui nonga keu nofo ‘i he fale (famili tapu ‘o kaunga’ea mo Kalaisi) ‘o Sihova ‘i he ‘aho (taimi/hisitolia) ‘eku mo’ui. Ko Leleli mo ‘Alo’ofa ongo kaume’a lelei!!! Ki he fononga’anga ‘o Leniti. Tuha mo hotau vaivai pea fe’unga pea mo hotau malohi/vaivai.
Ma’u.
Sitiveni Faupula
Sitiveni Faupula
vakai pe na'a 'oku 'omai ha me'a mei tu'a 'o nusi mai he tu'utu'uni ke suspend e faifekau mo si'i-'ene-fie-'ofa ki he kau ta'e-ma'u-ha-'api
Ma'ananga
From: Sitiveni Faupula <ven...@optusnet.com.au>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 11:06:50 PM
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Tau manatu kia Dietrich Bonhoeffer eee.....mo Matini Lutelo eee, he tau mo e sisitamu...
ofa atu Hedley he fefa'uhi 'oku ke lolotonga 'iai,
mo e hufia
Ma'ananga
Sione M. Veituna
malo e tau mo Tonga na pea malo lahi e fakamaama, koe mooni lahi ho'o lau, ...ka ko ha me'a oku ala fai pea fai mo nimasi, ....ka oku ou tui oku lōlōlahi pe 'a e 'ume'a, ka koe me'a lelei pe ho'o fakamanatu hake pea ke fai ki ai ha talanoa..
mou kataki pe kau tasilisili, oku ikai ke u loto ke ongo pehee oku fai ha poupou ki he fakafepaki ki he siasi, (not that I care ko e ha 'e fai 'eha taha kiate au) ka koe taimi lahi, 'oku ikai ke tau fakatokanga'i 'oku nau fiema'u 'etau support 'a ia oku fihia he politics 'a e sisitemi. ( I am with Boenhoffer and others here), I don't have to agree with Dr Hedley's theology or polity, I think the church needs to rethink their actions... Like Sifa Hingano, I just want to voice my support ki he faifekau he me'a ni.... ko e tu'utu'uni ke defy e Hedley a e order hono siasi, me'a ia 'a Hedley, ko e poupou atu koee ki he faifekau he mamafa o e tautea kuo hilifaki kiai, kuo u loto ke kau atu kiai eku poupou
At the same time, I am not ready to call Dr Fihaki a rebel pe ko ha faifekau talangata'a... it seems to me that the congregation was defying the order too... by the admission a e ni'ihi 'o kinautolu.... Kuo lau hifo e si'i lau ' a e kaingalotu - oku ikai ko e kau Tonga eni ka ko e kau palangi, oku nau peehee kapau oku suspend enau faifekau pea suspend mo kinautolu foki he ko e tu'utut'uni 'a e siasi ke kei tuku pe ke nofo ai e sii kau homeless, toe eni pe oku fuu fakatu'utamaki fefe 'a e fale - na'a 'oku political pe me'a -
Ka kapau ko au 'a Hedley, te u 'ai e au e fale'i 'a Suka Etu.....turn suspension into vacation.......
moe hufia
Ma'ananga
From: penisimani mone <peni...@gmail.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 9:10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Nau Taitusi 'Ahosivi
----- Original Message -----From: Sione M. VeitunaSent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:57 AMSubject: Re: [tasilisili] The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
penisimani mone
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Touhuni Hala Puopua
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
malo e tau mo Tonga na pea malo lahi e fakamaama, koe mooni lahi ho'o lau, ...ka ko ha me'a oku ala fai pea fai mo nimasi, ....ka oku ou tui oku līŋŊlīŋŊlahi pe 'a e 'ume'a, ka koe me'a lelei pe ho'o fakamanatu hake pea ke fai ki ai ha talanoa..
sisilia tupou-thomas
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Nau Taitusi 'Ahosivi
----- Original Message -----From: Touhuni Hala Puopua
Kitione Tuitupou
(i) 'Oku taau nai hono tautea suspension 'o e faifekau he'enau fai e ngaue 'ofa to the homeless? (ii) As church, ko e ha nai ha founga ke tokoni'i 'a e faifekau ke 'oua mole 'a 'ene 'ofa & fietokoni ki he faka'ofa 'o kei fit it pe he ngaahi ethics & principles (or policies) 'a e Siasi.
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Kau atu he lotu mo e 'ofa ma'a si'i faifekau ni mo hono famili he fononga 'oku nau faii.
Sisilia, 'oku ou fakakaukau na'a 'oku feinga e Siasi ke toe fakamahino mai kiate kitautolu 'oku 'ikai ko ha 'ofa ki he masiva 'a hono 'ave kinautolu ki he facility 'oku 'ikai safe he ko e tamate tangata ia! Ko e fakatokanga lelei telia na'a a'u ki he tu'unga koia ka kuo tomui.
Mahalo na ko ha tokoni 'e ala fai 'e he kainga lotu 'o Hedley ko ha'anau takitaha atu ha ki'i homeless ki honau 'api 'oku safe he ko ena 'oku nau mafana mai, kae 'oleva ke fakakakato e safety rules 'o e facility! Tukukehe kapau kuo tomui eni ia pea na'a ko e tokoni eni ia na'e totonu kenau tomu'a kamata'aki.
Kaikehe hange ko ho'o lau 'oku 'ikai ke tau 'ilo kanokato 'a e mo'oni ka 'oku fai 'a e 'ofa atu ki he faifekau.
Tevita Finau
Sione M. Veituna
ko e me'a eni 'oku ui ko e Douple Displacement - 'ai ai e tukuhausia mo e toe ngaohi kovia - 'oku mahu'inga pe ke akonaki'i 'a e li'ekina ke fai ha me'a ke fakasi'isi'i ai 'ene li'ekina, ka 'oku ikai faingofua as much as we want these people to grow out of their situation and be responsible, 'oku ikai ke 'aho taha pehee pe kuo nau lava, he kapau oku ikai ke lava he kakai 'oku nofo lelei mo ma'u e me'a honau nima 'o be responsible pea si'i fefe ai 'a e kakai 'oku displaced pehee ni, 'ikai ko e hanga atu ai pe 'ehe tau ngaahi fai tu'utu'uni hange ko ho'o fakamatala i lalo, o toe double'i atu 'enau displaced, pea mo'oni e hua 'a e kau kava tonga, vakai kuo lailai kae taa pe...
As much as the Synod wanted Dr Fihaki to adhere or abide mo 'enau tu'utu'uni, 'ai lelei na'a 'oku nau toe laiki ai 'enautolu e masiva mo e tu'utamaki.... mo'oni lahi ho'o lau -fie lau e oo e ni'ihi ia 'o fai hia ke oo ai ki pilisone he oku sai a pilisone ia oku kai he taimi pea mohe mafana mo sio tv ta'etotongi etc.... toe ma'u ki'i seniti he fanga ki'i ngaue 'oku nau fai...
ofa pe 'e ikai tuku ke fuoloa ta'e fai ha ngaue ki he me'a na
mo e ofa
Ma'ananga
From: Tevita Finau <tfi...@gmail.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 1:32:58 PM
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
stan palu
Kole fakamolemole atu ki he kau tauhi 'api...koe fakalanga mai 'eni 'ae feme'a'aki 'ae ongo faifekau ni ki he ki'i malumalu ko 'eni he 'oku ne fakalanga mai 'ae mafana mavahe kiate au..'ae fakamanatu 'oe faha'ita'u 'oe Leniti...'oku 'ikai foki ke tau fu'u maheni moe ngaahi vahevahe ko 'eni ka 'oku maniho ia ki he Katolika moe siasi Faka'Ingilani....ka teu tuku 'ae tafa'aki 'o e hisitolia kia kinautolu 'oku taukei ange kae lave atu au 'i he mafana 'oe faha'i ta'u pea moe fononga 'o e leniti.....koe taimi 'oe lava kei sio hifo au kiate au 'ae anga 'oe to'onga mo'ui mo e fakafeangai ki he 'otua...'oku te ongo'i 'ae tonounou moe faka'amu ke fai ha feinga ke foua 'ae halafononga ko ia na'e fononga ai 'a sisu 'i he taimi 'oe fakamamahi moe teu ki he 'ene pekia...'oku lave mafana mai 'ae talanoa 'ae ongo faifekau he koe taimi foki 'eni 'ae feinga ke ofi ange moe folofola/tohitapu..pea fai e vakavakai'i ai 'ae mo'ui...'oku ongo malohi mai kiate au 'ae lea 'ae... punake... mo'oni ko e kovi au...pea 'i he tu'unga ko ia ..'ikai ke kei lava ke fufuu'i...ka 'oku fai pe puke ki he 'ene folofola ...ka tete puke atu pe neongo 'ete ta'e taau....fai pe puke 'i he loto 'amanaki moe tui....'e fai pe hoto fakakoloa 'e he 'Otua.....hangee koe fakamanatu..kuo na 'omi neongo e fai e fononga 'o a'u ki he tele'a 'oku fenga'itaki ai 'ae nifo...manatu'i 'ae ongo fe'ao 'a 'alo'ofa mo meesi....hoko mai e faingata'a 'oku nonga pe...fakafeta'i
penisimani mone
fakapulia
Sitiveni Faupula
Sitiveni Faupula
Sam Pakofe
Sepesi H Piukala
Sepesi H Piukala
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Sent: Wednesday, 30 March 2011 11:44 AM
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Sepesi H Piukala
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, 30 March 2011 11:54 AM
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Fatai Slender
Mou kataki ka mou lotua mu'a 'a e kau fai tu'utu'uni 'o e Synod 'a Queensland. He ko 'eku tui 'oku lahi e ng. me'a 'oku 'ikai te nau fiemalie ai 'ia Hedley ka ko e toki faingamalie eni ke fakae'a ai honau mafai. Pea koe lea atu ko'eni he kuo ki'i fuoloa 'ete nofo honau malumalu he na'e fokotu'u 'e Uniting Church he 1977 kuou 'osi 'i heni 'o mau fononga mai ai he ng. founga fai tu'utu'uni 'a e kau ma'u mafai 'o tatau pe 'a e Assembly, Synods moe ngaahi Presbytery. Tau lotu ma'a nautolu ke nau ngaue totonu 'aki honau mafai pea nau 'ofa mo'oni ki he 'Eiki 'o fakatatau ki he mo'oni 'o 'Ene folofola.
From: sep...@optusnet.com.au
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tasilisili] The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:34:57 +1100
Epeli
Stan mo Fkpulia
Malo mu’a ‘a hono kei tanumaki mai ‘a e hala ‘o leniti – he ko hono mo’oni ko e konga hala faingata’a he fononga pilikimi ‘oku tau fai koe’uhiaa ko ‘etau TUI pea ‘oku tau muimui he hala fononga ko e sipinga kiate kitautolu na’e pau ke fononga ai ‘a Sisu ‘o e hisitolia ke hoko ia ko e mata’ikoloa ‘o tukufkholo he ngaahi to’utaangata ‘o fktatau ki he lotu ‘a Mosese “Ei, ko koe homau nofo’anga mei he to’utangata ki he to’utangata.”
Ko e ki’i hiva mo e le’o (tone) ‘o e Saame ni ‘oku ongo fkfiemalie – he ‘oku ne talanoa’i ‘a e ‘ausia (experience) ‘o e MO’UI pea mo e poto (wisdom) ‘o e MO’UI. ‘Aia ko hono fklea mo’oni;
Ka ko e konga he ‘Otua
‘oku ‘ilonga ai
Ko e ‘Eiki poto ‘oku ha
Ko e ‘Eiki Mafimafi.
KO e ‘ausia ee ‘oku polo’uto mo’oni – Ko e ‘Otua ‘i hono tu’unga ko e ‘Eiki – ‘oku ne tauhi ‘a hono kakai!
Me’akai lelei – inu melie kene fkfiemalie ‘etau fieinua – tauhi hotau laumalie pea tataki he hala ‘oku mo’oni pea mo’ui.
Ka ko e hala – ‘ikai ha faingata’a ia ai – ko e tepile ‘e kei fkfonu ‘aho mo e po.
‘Oiaue kita kuo tafe ‘a e lolo ‘o ‘itaniti ke fai ‘aki ‘a hoku pani – fai’aki ‘a hoku ui – fai’aki ‘a hoku fklotolahi – fai’aki hoku fekau’i – fai’aki ‘a hoku fklelei!
Na’e pau ha taha ke pekia
‘A e Lao pe koau
Kae to’o ‘e Sisu ‘eku hia
‘O mate pe ma’aku!
Ko e hala ‘o leniti he’ikai pe teke sio koe he masiva ai! Ko e hala ia ‘o e kau Fkmo’oni
Mataa ‘e langi me’afo’ou
Ta’e’alo ke ‘iloa
Si’ene tu’u pe ‘a e Totonu
Kae tu’u pe mo e ‘Ofa,
Goodness and Mercy!
Were you there when Goodness and Mercy anoint my head with oil
Were you there when Goodness and Mercy anoint my head with oil
O sometimes it causes me to tremble, tremble, tremble.
Were you there when Goodness and Mercy anoint my head with oil.
Fkhaka mai ‘ena sh!!!
Ma’u.
sisilia tupou-thomas
Sitiveni Faupula
sisilia tupou-thomas
sisilia tupou-thomas
Sione M. Veituna
oku ikai te u tui oku fe'unga ke toho e fakatauhoa 'ia Hedley, McNab mo Sisū...oku ou kole ke oua mu'a e fakatatau 'a e sesele ko ena ko McNab kia Sisu (mhk) he oku hala ha'a na vavatatau, ....poor McNab with hi bad theology could not comprehend the divinity of Christ, Jesus understood it perfectly, he ko e ha'u tonu mo e tupu tonu..,
ko e me'a malie ne hoko he Univesity o e Pasifiki Saute he ngaahi ta'u sii kuo mahili atu, ko e tama na'e pule (VC) koe loea Saute Afilika (white guy|), koe'uhi ko e loea ia, lava 'e ia 'o ilo e loop hole he bylaws ae USP, va'inga ia he ki'i seniti 'a e 'univesiti, becasue he knows how not to get caught...o tei mate e ako'anga pea toki tuku ki tu'a ... , .... ko e siana ko ene ne na contest ki he VC ne ne osi malanga ki he fakatu'utamaki e loea ni ka ikai ha taha e fanogo,....toki 'aa hake kakai kuo mei ta'e'aonga e apiako o toki toe fakafoki mai leva e palofesa ko ee ne lotomamahi mo launga he anga o e afilika, i he'ene protest ne ikai ke fanogno ha taha pe amavahe leva ia o 'unu mai leva e kakai ne poupou ki ai o nau fokotu'u 'a e University of Fiji, so there is UniFiji, USP and Fiji National University now in Fiji. But na ne fekuki e masii ko ia moe sisitemi pea sii iku o alu he oku fa'a malohi pe sisitamu ia he fefa'uhi mo e fakafoituitui.....ka kuo ha 'eni... ko eni ko ia oku foki mai o VC he USP he taimi ni, ...toe hanga hake kau poupou o e former VC kuo mei temenio e lepa ia 'a e university, ka ne osi lea kae ta'etoka'i pee..
so McNab can qoose step the UCA polity/decrees - does not make it right at all... and Hedley to use Epeli's word, does not know how to fakamolumalu e talangata'a hange ko e fai e he kau siaatoutai,....is being charged...
e faifai pea te tau toho ha application, oku sai pe fai kovi koloa pe ke oua e ma'u,... kataki silia ko e lea tule mohe atu pe eni ia
moe ofa
Ma'ananga
From: sisilia tupou-thomas <sisili...@gmail.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 11:57:24 PM
Epeli
Ma’ananga ‘oku ke kei ‘aaa pe. Pe kuo fuoloa ho’o kuikui he kuo fuoloa e po’uli tangata tutuku Siaaaa ko koeee! Mohe aa tukuaa e fkmolumalu e kohuu! Ka ‘oku ma’u ai ‘emau fiefia he fu’u taimi faingata’a ko ‘eni ‘o Leniti.
Ma’u.
2011/3/30 Sitiveni Faupula <ven...@optusnet.com.au>
Na'e "talangata'a" 'a Fihaki kihe tu'utu'uni 'ae Siasi .. koe palopalema ia ...
Koe Code of Conduct moe Ethical Practice , 'Oku maumau ai e Fihaki 'ae ongo me'a koia kihe Tu'utu'uni 'ae Siasi ...
Sefili Fahamokioa
VEITUNA.... ma'a lahi atu.... (mhk) 'ofa atu.... hahahha
kataki kuo mohe kakai 'oe faleni, kake fai mai ha ki'i lotu, kau toki folau ki he vahefonua 'a nai, pea tuku 'ae kohu, hahahhaha SFMKioa --- On Wed, 3/30/11, Sione M. Veituna <svei...@yahoo.com> wrote: |
Sione M. Veituna
he ko Pope au mo SH he he he he, ke u poto he fkpoto'i e 'ita....'e Ma'u ke 'ilo kapau na'a ku ma'u faingamalie hange ko Iki mo Sifa, toe fifisi ange eku fakamolumalu'i e fakapangopngo he he he he, tuku ho'o faka'aki'aki mui he 'oku malie ange pe ho'o fakamolumalu'i e koe 'a si'ono tukulalo'i 'o Fakapulia mo e kau Sia..mate he kata...Te u mohe leva he fo'i 'aki ko ia neongo oku kei efiafi pe...
ofa atu
Ma'ananga
vahaope
From: Epeli <epeli.ta...@xtra.co.nz>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 12:45:31 AM
Subject: RE: [tasilisili] The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Sione M. Veituna
e faifai pe taa'i taua he pule falemohe (Ma'u) he toe va'inga he taa 'a e mohe,.... kapau oku ma'a lahi, saute'i,........ 'eee te ke 'alu ki he vahefonua........ ofa atu pea 'ai ha me'a 'aonga ke mou talanoa ai na'a fai ai pe pole tau ki he Metotisi, ha ha ha ha ha
pea ke ma'u ha folau lelei... uee oleva ke fai atu e kii lotu ne ke kole mai... Eiki tokoni ange mu'a ki he fakavahefonua 'a e SUTT Amelika mo Hawaii ke tuku aa e fa'a kee, hihihihiiiiiiiiii mohea aa na'a ke tomui ki he vaka, talaange kia Sione Manu, babysitter ae faifekau ke oua fa'a lea noa'ia he fakataha.... mo e loloa,.......ha ha ha aha ha
ofa atu
Ma'ananga
From: Sefili Fahamokioa <fse...@yahoo.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 12:54:46 AM
Sefili Fahamokioa
| maloo .... pea kou 'ilo'i he 'ikai tuku ho'o maliee hahhaa 'ofa atu...Faifekau, 'oku 'ongo mai hihihi.... SFMKioa. |
sisilia tupou-thomas
Sione M. Veituna
ko au ia oku lea mohe, oku tonu pe ho'o lau 'a'au, ko e fakafekake'i fakamatalili pe eni ia kia Ma'u...(mhk)
ofa atu
Ma'ananga
sisilia tupou-thomas
fihaki@cairns
Thank-you all for your prayers. It is much appreicated at this time.
I am humbled he mou fakamoleki'i ho'o mou taimi ke discuss my
situation and offer prayer support for myself and family, and also for
the wider church as a whole. Malo e 'ofa.
Just a couple of quick comments to help further guide these
discussions:
Re:building compliance/laws of the land. Cairns Post said in
2009/2010: "To say the move has been brought on by fire safety and
building regulations - which apparently render the building
uninsurable - is simplisitc to the point of being insenistive".
Re: Prayer: our congregation has always made it very clear that we
have simply been following God's directions regarding this matter.
Please know that the decisions that we have made as the Emmanuel
Uniting Church, a Confessing Congregation, were done after much
prayerful consideration and we responded to God's Voice. We do not
make decisison lightly, nor in a spirit of rebellion, but in a spirit
of humility to Jesus Christ who is Lord of the Church.
'ofa atu
Hedley
Nau Taitusi 'Ahosivi
'Ofa atu ki he hoa, fanau mo e kaingalotu.
Nau, Moana &kids
Concord Uniting
----- Original Message -----
From: "fihaki@cairns" <fih...@msn.com>
To: "Tasilisili-he-ngaluope" <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:31 AM
Subject: [tasilisili] Re: The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3
months
Maile Molitika
faingata'a kuo hoko.
Ko e ki'i fie'ilo pe eni, 'Oku mahino 'aupito ho'o muimui ki he Tataki 'a e
Laumalie Ma'oni'oni he case ko 'eni and I really admired you for doing that.
My doubt is this:
Kuo hoko ho'omou talangofua ki he Laumalie Ma'oni'oni ke mou talangata'a ai
ki he guidelines & Regulations 'a e Siasi. Me'a ni na'e 'ikai ke mou
consider ke mou talangofua ki he Laumalie ma'oni'oni pea mou to e talangofua
ki he tu'utu'uni 'a e Siasi? In doing so, you may easily find some places
for those homeless?? Kataki ko e ki'i fie'ilo atu pe.
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From: "fihaki@cairns" <fih...@msn.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:31 AM
To: "Tasilisili-he-ngaluope" <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [tasilisili] Re: The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3
months
> Greetings all,
> --
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Lauleti Tu'inauvai
Lauleti Tu'inauvai
'Ofa lahi atu kiate ko e mo e famili pea mo e vaa'ihala 'oku mou lolotonga
fononga'ia.
Malo 'a e lototo'a mo e muimui ki he tataki 'a e Laumalie.
'Oku mau lotu atu mei he mui-leleu ni neongo 'ene kihi ka 'oku fai 'a e lotu
ki he fu'u Mafi.
Na kuo taimi ha'amou ki'i holiday mai ki homau feitu'u ni ketau 'ahi'ahi ha
fo'i temata.
Remember that you said you will visit me on your next visit to Melbourne.
'Ofa lahi atu tokoua.
'I he 'ofa mo e lotu.
Lauleti
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From: "fihaki@cairns" <fih...@msn.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:31 AM
To: "Tasilisili-he-ngaluope" <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [tasilisili] Re: The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3
months
> Greetings all,
Sam Pakofe
Subject: [tasilisili] Re: The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
sisilia tupou-thomas
Sam Pakofe
From: Sitiveni Faupula <ven...@optusnet.com.au>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, 30 March, 2011 10:42:01 PM
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Sione M. Veituna
'ai pe na'a koe feitu'u na 'oku si'i fie ma'u ha mohe, .... oku ou olioli'ia pe eni ho'o tala 'oku ou fie'otua, mo fie-toketa 'avanga.... .....hangē oku ki'i hā ha fakapo'uli 'iate koe Tongi......... ko si'ete fie'ilo pe pe ko e ha si'a kovi 'ae Fungafonua kihe feitu'una 'oku fai ai e ngutu melie ki he motu......(mhk)..... feinga'i koe ke tu'u ho'o mata'i sio lalo eee, ha ha ha ha ha.....ko eni te te vale he kata.........
ofa atu faifekau...
Ma'ananga
From: Lauleti Tu'inauvai <lau...@bigpond.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 4:12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months...........
sisilia tupou-thomas
--
fihaki@cairns
Fakamolemole, 'oku ou tui 'oku teeki keke mahino'i "aupito ho'o muimui
ki he tataki 'ae Laumalie Ma'oni'oini" he 'oku ke kei 'doubt' pe 'oku
malava nai ke ngaue 'a e Laumalie Ma'oni'oni "outside" the 'rules and
regulations of the church and even the secular society we live.
'Oku 'ikai keu ilo pe 'oku ke 'osi lau 'a e Codes of Ethics 'ae kau
faifekau UCA he section fekau'aki mo e "Relationship to the Law", ka,
'oku ha ai 'oku 'iai ai taaimi (exception) ke talangata'a ki he lao.
Im' sure you can find many examples in the bible where Jesus spoke
strongly aginst the Pharisee's, the law makers of their day, for the
many rules they made up.
But, I must stress as I said in my previous comments, it must NOT be
done in a spirit of rebellion, but only after much prayeful
discernment and in a spirit of humility to Jesus Christ who alone is
the Lord of the Church and the World.
'ofa atu
Hedley
Lauleti Tu'inauvai
Lauleti Tu'inauvai
'ai pe na'a koe feitu'u na 'oku si'i fie ma'u ha mohe, .... oku ou olioli'ia pe eni ho'o tala 'oku ou fie'otua, mo fie-toketa 'avanga.... .....hangē oku ki'i hā ha fakapo'uli 'iate koe Tongi......... ko si'ete fie'ilo pe pe ko e ha si'a kovi 'ae Fungafonua kihe feitu'una 'oku fai ai e ngutu melie ki he motu......(mhk)..... feinga'i koe ke tu'u ho'o mata'i sio lalo eee, ha ha ha ha ha.....ko eni te te vale he kata.........
ofa atu faifekau...
Ma'ananga
From: Lauleti Tu'inauvai <lau...@bigpond.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 4:12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months...........
seni taniela
Nofo pe a Carol Porter i Houston pea langa hono fatu he 'ofa ki he fanau homeless mo e kau fiekaia o Houston pea ne pehee te ne fafanga e kau fiekaia. Na'a ne kamata'i e charity 'o ui ko e Kid Care pea fele 'a e kau volunteer local i Houston ne nau volunteer o nau serve e peleti me'akai e meimei 20,000 he 'aho 'o nau fafanga e fanau homeless honau community.
'Ohovale pee kuo step in e pule'angaa 'o tala te nau tokoni ki he fakalele e Kid Care pea pehee e Porter ko e fehalaaki ko ene tali e tokoni mei he pule'angaa. Toe ha'u ai mo e tu'utu'uni kuo pau ke tufa ki he leka homeless kotoa pee a e katuni hu'akau e taha he uike tatau ai pee pee 'e inu 'ehe lekaa pe 'ikai. Pehe 'e Porter ne nau kamata ke sio ki he puha hu'akau 'e 60 ki he 70 kuo 'alu ki he veve he 'aho takitaha. Toe fakalahilahi mai mo e fakataputapui kehe a e pule'angaa. Ne iku fo'i ai pee a Porter o tuku atu e charity ko 'eni.
Me'a tatau ne hoko i Delancey Stree i San Francisco. Kamata e he fefine ko Meme Silbert. A'u ki he kau drug addict mo e kau homeless e 13,000 tupu kuo nau graduate mei he senitaa ko eni o hoko e ni'ihi ko e kau pisinisi he ola e recovery program a e fefine ni. Ko e fakaoli ko ene kau faiako mo ene kau counselors ko e kau volunteer ta'eprofessionally trained mei he ngaahi univesitii etc. They are just local people who were willing to help. Kaikehe ne step in e pule'angaa mo e kau palofesinalee o feinga kuo pau ke hire e Silbert ha kau certified counselors, professional psychologists and psychiatrists etc mo e ngaahi policy kehe. Me'amalie ne tau'i e Silbert ene totonu pea oku kei lele pee senitaa ko enii. Pea ne pehee, "Kapau e ha'u a Sisu he aho ni pea ne faka'amu ke kamata'i e lotu fakakalisitiane he'ikai lava koe'uhiii 'e tu'utu'uni atu ehe pule'angaa kuo
pau ke 'iai ha'ane ongo toketaa ki he 'atamaivaivai e ua mo ha'a ne ongo social worker e ua pea mo ha taha ke sign e ngaahi pepaa e pule'angaa."
I he ta'u e hongofulu kuo 'osi kuo tapuni e ngaahi senita e katolika i NY ki he kau homeless koe'uhii pee ko e demand e pule'angaa kuo too kitu'a.
Ko e poini oku feinga ke fakamahinoo kapau oku pehee e he sinotii oku lakaange enau tokanga'i e kau homeless he kakai local 'o Cairns, oku nau fai e fehalaaki lahi.
Fehu'i leva, me'a nii ne 'ikai ilo e Rev. FIhaki mo hono kainga lotuu e me'a oku tokanga ki ai e sinotii? Mahino kapau oku 'ikai 100 % e facility ka oku 'ilo 'e he kainga lotu fakataha mo Fihaki fakataha mo e kau homeless, they can still use it, me'a nii he'ikai lava e he sinotii 'o falala ki he discernment mo e fakapotopoto e kakai lalahi (adults) ko 'enii ke nau faitu'utu'uni ki he founga ke tokanga'i e kau homeless ko 'enii?
Kaikehe, kuo fai tu'utu'uni e kau professional mei he head quarter. They know better and they love the people more!
In our search for perfection, we create a greater evil. That's when the church leaders become another powerful bureaucratic government-like body.
Mamafaange ki he kau takii Sinotii na'a mole $ (na'a fk'ilo ehe pule'angaa--kapau ko e 'uhingaa ia), he mole 'a e laumalie a e kakai e siasii he akonaki a Mekinepii. Malie mu'a kau taki!!!Ozie Ozie Ozie!!!Tau kalofi aa e langoo(talangata'a a Fihaki mo ene siasi) kau tau folokopuu a e kalokatailee(Mekinepi)..veni e!!
Dr Fihaki, keep on keeping on.
|
Sepesi H Piukala
ikuna ni áe fakapuepue homou feotuú laá na. Talu énau lama Koe ha meá
laulaunoa ke ke maumauí koénau toki maú ee.
Heíkai kenau taketi ki ha taha óku hange hono mahuínga ha potupotuí Siakleti
hange ko Au, ka tenau taketií Koe.
1. Óku ke taki he Kulupu óku ou kau ai mo au koe ACC hono tala óku hinga
hotau Siasi UCA.
2. Óku ke lea taéufi ki he Siasi énau fakaótuamate hono tali ke faifekau áe
kakai moúi fakasotoma.
3. Naáke Debate moe Sekelitali Seniale óe Siasi UCA .
4. Ko e lanu Koe kuo ke fakafepakií énau feinga ketau hoko e kakai óe
Pasifiki koe éntertainer ''ae UCA.
5. Óku ke manako hono discipline e kau Faifekau hange ko ia kuo nau fai atu
kiate Koe,meápango !meápango ápee ko énai Konisenisi matee.
6. Óku lava ke alea í ha fáahinga level pee, fekauáki moe meá óku tui ki ai.
7. Naáke taófi ke malanga atu e Palesiteni óe UCA , he ko ia naáne
fakamaópoópo e pea proposal óe faifekau fakasotoma pea tali é he UCA.
7. 'öku íkai eke fakalai ki he system fakaetangata óku tauhi áki e UCA.
Óku lahi e meá keu lea ki ai, ka koe taéóli taha koe maau hoómou fakataha áe
meá ke fai kuo nau hamusi áe mafai óe faiángalotu mo énau faifekau , neongo
éne ha nenefu he 'oku fakaetangata pe énau tuútuúni.
Ko e fanga kií lao ko eni óku fakamata atu heíkai kenau mavivi énautolu ha
meá he koe tau mo e fefaúhi fakalaumalie, koe Ótua óku ne áfioí e meá óku ke
fai pea óku íkai ko ha toki tangata Koe ke fai pehe talu hono fakahinohinoi
kitauolu éhe Tohitapu áki e kau Tangata ne fakatoái é he Ótua ke fai éne
ngaue ha feituú Óku pakukaa fakalaumalie hange ko ia óku tau íai he áho ni.
Tangata óku ou sio atu pe heni hoó malimali he meá kuo fai é he Siasi ki hoó
moúii. Kapaua naáke fakatooki ha sosa honau peito é kei suspend pe Koe
Ko ena kuo tokoni mo popou atu ho ngahi taókete Faifekau ,pea óku ou tui óku
nau kei ófa pe íate Koe ka í he feituú faingofua pe teke foua , ko e aú atu
ki he feituú ko ena óku ke íai, ko e Éiki pe kemo takaua.
Ko e meá óku ou ako mei he UCA heni, óku nau feinga ke fakamahino ki he ACC
tenau ala tuli mo huí hoómou ngahi ngaue he UCA ko hoómou fakafepaki ki he
system hinga óku nau álofi áki hotau Siasi.
Malo moe ófa atu ki ho fofonga he faingata'a kuo tukuakií kiate Koe.
Sepesi H Piukala.
Sitiveni Faupula
From: Sitiveni Faupula <ven...@optusnet.com.au>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, 30 March, 2011 10:42:01 PM
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Tevita Langi
Maile Molitika
congregation was the only option. There may be another way around in this
issue where both parties agreed to. And that is what I am coming from...
Me'ani, na'e 'ikai ke toe 'iai ha option kehe ki he case ko 'eni??? Pea
kapau ko e option pe ena fakamolemole atu!! Kataki pe I am just assuming
things without knowing the full extent of the issue. Anyway thanks mate and
have a good holyday!!! Ki'i 'eva ki Tonga ka e sio Fakapulia ia ki he
nofonofo pe he tofunanga...
'Ofa atu. maile
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From: "fihaki@cairns" <fih...@msn.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:00 PM
To: "Tasilisili-he-ngaluope" <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [tasilisili] Re: The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3
months
> Maile, malo e fehu'i.
> --
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> "Tasilisili-he-ngaluope"
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> tasil...@googlegroups.com
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penisimani mone
fakapulia
David Ofahengaue
Faifekau Fihaki,
Malo mu'a 'a 'etau ma'u kihe 'aho ni pea malo moe ngaue. Koe palopalema lahi 'eni kihe kakai tokolahi 'o au kihe kau faifekau tokolahi. Koe taimi pe kuo pehe 'eha taha, na'e talamai 'ehe laumalie pe taki 'ehe laumalie pe talamai 'ehe 'Eiki, kuo kamata leva ke nau fehu'i pe na'e anga fefe 'a 'ene hoko. 'oku lahi 'a hono uhinga kiai, koe pehe pe 'e nautolu 'oku ta'emalava 'ae me'a koia. Koe fa'ahinga pehe 'oku 'ikai kenau tukuange kihe laumalie kene taki 'ae ngaue pe fa'a fe'ohi moe laumalie. Koe taimi koee, na'a tau fa'a taukae'i 'a e Penitekosi, Assembly of God, etc 'ihe 'enau fa'a pehe kuo lea mai 'ae laumalie pe taki 'ehe laumalie. Ka ko hono mooni kuo tupu 'ae ngahi siasi ia koia he 'oku nau lea'aki ta'eilifia 'ae malohi 'oe laumalie ma'oni'oni. Kae faii hifo 'ae ngaahi siasi ia koee ke
mate....kataki ngali fu'u loloa. kamou lau hifo kihe konga 'o 'emau Bible study kihe Sapate ko'eni....
Dear Sisters and Brothers, A just-released study predicts that religion is headed for near extinction in nine nations. While there are several commentators who say that a mathematical study cannot predict human behavior, this news does give us an opportunity to discuss the future of Christianity in general and the future of your own congregation in particular, and seek some biblical perspective on the concern. So that will be the topic for this Sunday
May God bless you this week.
Rev David Ofahengaue
TEHACHAPI VALLEY UMC SUNDAY ADULT BIBLE STUDY April 3, 2011
In the News
Religion is on its way to extinction in Australia, Austria, Canada, the Czech Republic, Finland, Ireland, the Netherlands, New Zealand and Switzerland. That's the conclusion of a just-released study by researchers from Northwest University and the University of Arizona.
The study, reported at the American Physical Society meeting in Dallas, Texas, is based on mathematical analysis of census data reaching as far back as a century. In those nine countries, the census queried religious affiliation. Using an analysis technique called nonlinear dynamics and a model of human interaction that posits that social groups that have more members are more attractive to join, the researchers concluded that religion was on the way out in the nine countries studied.
Dr. Richard Wiener, one of the researchers, explained, "In a large number of modern secular democracies, there's been a trend that folk are identifying themselves as non-affiliated with religion; in the Netherlands the number was 40 percent, and the highest we saw was in the Czech Republic, where the number was 60 percent." The idea is that as the non-affiliated group grows, it becomes the more attractive group for others to join for social and utilitarian reasons.
Even with the presentation of the findings, however, Wiener said the research team recognized that the network structure used for the study is not fully representative of the one at work in the world. "Obviously we don't really believe this is the network structure of a modern society, where each person is influenced equally by all the other people in society," he said.
Nonetheless, Wiener indicated that the study is at least "suggestive" of the conclusion about religion's extinction. (The study seems to define "religion" as "affiliation with a religious organization" rather than religious belief.)
While this study is new and applies to religions of all stripes, previous research has concluded that young adults are leaving the church today at a higher rate than in previous years. A 2009 study from the American Religious Identification Survey found that the percentage of Americans claiming "no religion" almost doubled in about two decades, climbing from 8.1 percent in 1990 to 15 percent in 2008.
Some observers point out that Christianity's appeal has always gone through cycles of decline and revival. And others argue that models based on statistical probabilities are not nearly as reliable when applied to human systems where conditions cannot be controlled.
Still others mention that while Christianity may be declining in some parts of the world, it is experiencing great growth in places like Africa and Asia.
Yet for many of us, Christianity's vigor elsewhere in the world is not a comfort if our own congregation is in decline or if our loved ones raised in the church have chosen to leave it.
More on this story can be found at these links:
Religion May Become Extinct in Nine Nations, Study Says. BBC A Mathematical Model of Social Group Competition with Application to the Growth of Religious Non-Affiliation. Cornell University Library (the study can be downloaded from this site) The Leavers: Young Doubters Exit the Church. Christianity Today Mathematical Models Cannot Predict the Extinction of Religion. EChurch Blog Reliability of Studies and the End of Religion. Christopher's Apologies
The Big Questions
1. Whether or not you place confidence in statistical studies, is it wise to dismiss them out of hand? Why or why not? State in one sentence what you think the study demonstrates.
2. What does your own experience of Christianity in the United States lead you to conclude about its future here? What does your own experience of Christianity's acceptance or rejection among members of your extended family lead you to conclude about its future here? How does that affect your feelings about your faith?
3. What are the main reasons that many of today's young adults decide religion is not for them? What are the reasons that some young adults remain within religion or embrace it for the first time?
4. How does the church address the concerns of people who won't even engage in conversations about faith?
5. To be non-affiliated with religion does not necessarily mean that a person does not believe in God or in Christ. But can Christianity survive without communal religious practice? Why or why not?
Confronting the News with Scripture Here are some Bible verses to guide your discussion:
In ancient Israel, God told the people to love him with all their heart, soul and might. And more, they were to teach their children the same command, and even talk about it in, and beyond, the home.
None of this, of course, guaranteed that their children would grow up to value and follow the command, and very likely, some of them did not.
Questions: What is the best way to live/model the Deuteronomy text consistent with the treadmill many families find themselves running on? Would even texting and sharing a daily Scripture verse/lesson be an improvement? When we've done our best to present our Christian faith to members of the next generation, and some do not stay with it, how should we feel? What should we do? Luke 18:8
The context of this verse tells of Jesus' parable of the widow and the unjust judge. The widow had a legitimate legal claim of some sort, but the judge, perhaps waiting for a bribe, wouldn't schedule a hearing for her. She only got her day in court by continually pestering the judge. He finally heard her case only because, as he said to himself, "so that she may not wear me out by continually coming."
At the end of the parable, Jesus points out that God will grant justice to those who cry out to him "day and night." He then makes the comment above, about finding faith on earth. The point is that by her persistence, the widow became a model of faithfulness on earth, like those who persist in prayer. Jesus' question is a rhetorical one, asking whether when he returns, he will find much faith as strong as hers.
Questions: What trends or forces seem to work against faith on earth? How can we counter them? Can transforming faith be in short supply even in churches that are well attended?
Luke 24:11
In context, these words describe the reaction of the apostles on Easter morning to the news from the women who'd gone to Jesus' tomb that the tomb was open and that two angels had told them that he'd risen. But detached from their context, they might also describe the reaction of some to the Christian message today.
Question: What causes some people who've grown up with the Christian story to eventually regard it as an idle tale?
Acts 17:22
In Athens, Paul addressed some of the leading thinkers of his time. They weren't Christians, but neither were they nonreligious, as Paul notes in the words above. So even though not many in that public place were persuaded by Paul's Christian message, they nonetheless were sympathetic to the idea of religion in general. Paul was able to use their religious bent as an opening to present his message (see v. 23).
Today, Christian witnesses often find themselves speaking to people who are at least skeptical about religion, and often even convinced that religion has no value at all.
Question: Many people today who reject religion are not ignorant about it; some understand it quite well, but have decided that it is not for them. Do we do any good by trying to persuade them otherwise?
In the letter-writing conventions of Paul's day, it was customary to include words of thanksgiving, and Paul did so in most of his letters to churches that we have in the New Testament. In each case, Paul does not address his thanks directly to the letter recipients, but to God for the faith of the recipients. It might seem like an odd practice to us until we remember that we live in an age when faith is not a given. In our workplace, school or the world in general, we are often among people who may not have faith.
Questions: What blessings come your way because you are part of a community of faith? Are there blessings you experience that you do not observe in others? And vice versa?
2 Kings 19:30-31 "The surviving remnant of the house of Judah shall again take root downward, and bear fruit upward; for from Jerusalem a remnant shall go out, and from Mount Zion a band of survivors. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will do this." (For context, read 19:14-34.) Isaiah 40:8 "The grass withers, the flower fades; but the word of our God will stand forever." (For context, read 40:6-11.)
An important consideration in any discussion of the extinction of Christianity is the biblical theme that God will always preserve a remnant. (In addition to the verses from 2 Kings above, see also Genesis 45:7; Ezra 9:8, 13; Isaiah 10:20-22; Jeremiah 23:3; Micah 5:7-8.) The remnant idea is that sometimes the chaff needs to be burned off so that the remnant is purified and able to carry on where the larger body could not. That remnant may not be statistically significant but it is significant in terms of the vitality of the church.
Another important consideration is the biblical promise that God's word will stand forever. (In addition to the verse above from Isaiah, see also Mark 13:31.) This indicates that though everything else may pass away, God's word is eternal.
Questions: Mark Twain, reported to have died before he actually did so, commented, "The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated." Might that also be true about this pronouncement of the extinction of religion? Why? What assurance (or challenge) does the eternal quality of God's word present regarding the dwindling numbers who take traditional faith seriously?
For Further Discussion
1. Respond to this: Bob Dylan memorably sang "You gotta serve somebody; it may be the devil, or it may be the Lord ..." In other words, we all have a religion, whether it's a recognized faith community or not. Dictionary.com, for instance, defines "religion" broadly enough to encompass people's ultimate beliefs about the origin, meaning and purpose of life. Some people's religion, then, is (essentially) capitalism, or some other non-deity-focused belief system. Thus the suggestion that religion becomes extinct is assuming a narrower definition of "religion" than is warranted.
2. Respond to this, from a TWW team member: "The survival of the church (of which I remain confident) does not necessitate the survival of the expressions of church life that have characterized religious practice for the last many hundreds of years. This is a time of enormous upheaval. I think we're entering a time when all these places and practices associated with Christianity (and other faiths) are in flux. What 'church' will look like over the next 50 years will be very different -- not so much the organs and cathedrals and potlucks and third-grade Bibles that we have known. But the church will remain; worship will continue; faith will be handed on in important ways.
3. Writing in Christianity Today, Drew Dyck said, "Christians often have one of two opposite and equally harmful reactions when they talk with someone who has left the faith: They go on the offensive, delivering a homespun, judgmental sermon, or they freeze in a defensive crouch and fail to engage at all." What is the alternative?
4. What convinces you that you belong in the Christian faith? What is a good way to share that testimony with those who've left the faith? What is a good way to share it with those who've never been part of the faith community?
5. What do you make of the argument that social groups that have more members are more attractive to join?
6. What political or social involvements of Christians have led some observers to think less of Christianity, rather than more? What actions of Christians have given our faith a bad name?
Closing Prayer
O God, thank you for the salvation and new life that comes by faith. Help us to know how to think about and respond to news about changing perspectives on religion in our world today. Make us faithful and warm in sharing our faith at appropriate times. In Jesus' name. Amen. |
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Lauleti Tu'inauvai wrote:
'oku 'i ai 'ena kovinanite fefakapapau'aki mo e SUTT)
plz verify????????
'ofa atu Hedley pea ki ho famili mo e siasi
'ofa mo e lotu
tlangi
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ke verify he ko ha fakataha'anga 'eatu tepile fevahevahe'aki,feako'aki. usuusu
etc.
'oku tau fononga fakataha pe mo hotau kaunga tohopalau he fa'ahita'u 'o Leniti.
mo e ofa
hausia
Epeli
Dear Sisters and Brothers,
A just-released study predicts that religion is headed for near extinction in nine nations. While there are several commentators who say that a mathematical study cannot predict human behavior, this news does give us an opportunity to discuss the future of Christianity in general and the future of your own congregation in particular, and seek some biblical perspective on the concern. So that will be the topic for this Sunday
May God bless you this week.
Rev David Ofahengaue
Masi’i Ma’u ‘i Talafaite – ne ‘au ‘a e founga fktotolo ‘a e kau faifika ko ‘ena ki he faifika fkmolitonga pe ‘ikai! Hangehange kiate au ‘oku nau fika’i fkholomui ‘a e me’a ni. ‘Osi ‘ilo ‘enautolu ‘a e fo’i tafe ko ‘eni pea ‘oku nau feinga leva ke tanaki ‘a e ngaahi fkmatala ke ne poupou ‘aki ‘enau fo’i mo’oni. Fktotolo me’a fksaienisi ‘aia ko e founga fkmamani lahi pe ia kuo tau maheni ai talu ‘eku ako hake he GPS Ha’asini pea mo ‘emau fktotolo fkholomui ke ma’u ‘a e mo’oni!!! Ko e to ‘o e kumala kuopau ke te situ’a ki he hopo’anga ‘o e la’a pea peluki ki ai ‘a e la’i kumala he ‘oku hanga ‘e he la’a ‘o ‘omi e mafana pea kamata leva ke aka ‘o ‘mo’ui. (Kataki ko e lahi ia ‘a e ako ‘i Nausori - takamuli)
Ko ‘eku ‘uhinga atu ki he founga fkmolitonga – ne ngalo he kau researchs ko ‘ena ‘oku toe takai atu ‘a e ki’i falunga kakai mei he ‘Out Motu Anga’ofa kau ai koe pea mo Au pea mo e tokolahi he paenga ni ‘o fai ‘a e fo’i ngaue fk’evangelio ‘i he ngaahi fonua ko ‘ena ‘oku nau fklau. Ka ko e ola koia ‘etau fkpaea he ngaahi fonua muli he ko e ui ‘a e Laumalie Ma’oni’oni ke tau fai fatongia ai – Me’a ni ‘e kei holo ai pe lotu ‘i Oz, NZ, Canada mo e ngaahi fonua ‘oku ‘iai ‘a e Tonga?
Kataki Ma’u ki Talafaite fai mo ke ngaue’aki ha fo’i ‘ekuasi fktonga hena ka ke sio koe ki ai!!! ‘Eke kia Fkpulia mo Ma’ananga mo Mapuhoi ‘a Tevolo mo Seni he fanga ki’i founga ‘oku ‘ikai mei he Uesite ka ko e founga fkpolinisia ‘e lava ‘o ngaue’aki hena ka ‘oku kei tika pe ia. Me’apango pe foki ‘oku mou ‘i he fonua ‘o e ‘ikale pea ‘oku ‘ikai ke mou tui kimoutolu ki he founga fkmolitonga he ‘oku motu’a – kapau te ke ‘eke kia Niuleka pe koeha ‘oku kei hao holo ai – te ne ‘oatu e tali he ko ho’o mo talanoa fkhalatahi! ‘Ouaaaa.
Ma’u Kakala.
David Ofahengaue
Tokoua,
'Oku mou fefe hake? Kuo lotu koaa 'ae fanga tevolo mei pulotu pe 'ikai? ha ha. Koe ki'i me'a mooni 'eni ia. Koe pekia 'ae Tu'i Pelehake(Tu'i Faleua) pea lolotonga 'ae nofo hota kainga 'i vangavanga kuo tufa mai 'ae Tohitapu 'e Siukilikutapu kihe fangatevolo (kau ma'u). Pea kuo ongo atu kihe Tama Tu'i kuo 'osi unga fonua, koe kau ma'u 'eni kuo nau lau tohitapu. Pea koe to folofola mai 'eni 'ae Tama, "Ta kuo sai 'a Tongani, he kuo lotu mo lau Tohitapu 'ae fanga tevolo.. ha ha mhk!
Masi'i Ma'u, 'e sai 'ae fika kotoa, koe me'a kia Mapuhoi.....koe faka langa lea lahi 'ae motu'a hotau tokoua koia.. ha ha. Koe fu'u fo'i fika fakapolinisia 'eni tokoua, koe fakapiko atu hano feingai hotau kakai ke kau he tohi kakai, 'ihe fonua pe koe siasi. Koe ki'i ako tohitapu ko'eni, koe ki'i fakalotolahi pe ia. Pe koe ki'i fakatokanga 'oku iai 'ae ngaunu 'ae tokolahi 'ae mainline church ki lalo kau aipe mo kimautolu. Ko kimautolu na'e 14 miliona kuo holo kihe 13 miliona, a 'ia koe UMC 'i Amelika ni 'oku 8 miliona.
Mooni 'a ho'o lau 'ae fakaohovale 'ae fakaau ke mate 'ae siasi 'i NZ, kae kole atu kihe ngaahi siasi tonga ke lesisita pea fakafonu 'ae form 'oe tokolahi, pea ka fai ha tohi kakai pea tohi'i 'ae siasi 'oku te kau kiai ho'i...fai aipe 'ae fkpolinisia ha ha. Ko Aussie kuopau pe 'a 'ene faka'a'au ke holo. He ko'ena kuo fire 'ae kau faifekau kei tamaiki ia.
Tokoua, tonu pe ke toe fai hano hunuaki 'ae ngaue ngaohi kakai, ke tokolahi 'ae puleanga 'oe 'Otua. Koe visone 'eni 'ae umc - "Rethink Church"
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fihaki@cairns
sorry, yes, there was no other option, hence, why we we had to make
the stand we did with the homeless.
We could not allow the remaining residents back on the streets.
Sorry, I didn't want to come across rude in the last post, but that
was the "most important point" regarding 'how' we, as a "congregation"
came to make a decision.
I believe it is importnat to remember, that we cannot separate our
spirituality from the practical things that we do. That is, we cannot
separate our faith in Jesus, our understanding of the bible and our
theology from our 'practice' of ministry, as some are suggesting in
other posts.
'ofa atu
Hedley
Tevita Langi
('oku 'i ai 'ena kovinanite fefakapapau'aki mo e SUTT)
etc.
Maile Molitika
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> Maile,
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Sam Pakofe
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Mamafaange ki he kau takii Sinotii na'a mole $ (na'a fk'ilo ehe pule'angaa--kapau ko e 'uhingaa ia), he mole 'a e laumalie a e kakai e siasii he akonaki a Mekinepii. Malie mu'a kau taki!!!Ozie Ozie Ozie!!!Tau kalofi aa e langoo(talangata'a a Fihaki mo ene siasi) kau tau folokopuu a e kalokatailee(Mekinepi)..veni e!!
Dr Fihaki, keep on keeping on.
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Malo Seni e kuku mai mei 'Amelika lahi na,,, Ka kuou Fkalaotolahi kai Fihaki ,,, Kataki ,Ke Fakamokomoko , 'he Oku kie leleiange pe 'ae fai talangofua ihe Talangata'a ... Ko'ete talangata'a koee kihoto TAKI pea kohai tete toe talangofua kiai ..
He oku 'ikai ko "fihaki' oku 'o'ona 'ae Laumalie oe kau homeless, Ka koe talangofua moe fai e tu'utu'uni 'ae Siasi moe kau Taki , kokinautolu tenau " fakaola " ke fakalelei 'e tu;unga 'oe kau homeless..
Koe me'a koee 'a MCNAB , koe me'a kehekeh pe ia meihe me'a 'a Fihaki..
Kuou faka'amu, ke lea mai e kau Faifekau 'i mulini , mo nau 'omai e " tukunga 'oe ' tukupa " kihe Faifatongia ........
Koe Fatongia moe tu'utu'uni "koe me'a kotoa ne fa'u 'ehe Tangata "ke " Fakam'uma'uluta 'aki 'e Takanga moe Sosaiete 'oku ne tauhi pe tokanga'i..
Pea kapau kuo te ta'e toka'i ia,,,,,,,, 'e anga fefee ha'a tau fakafehoanaki 'ete tauhi Faka'apa'apa kihe " Lao moe tu'utu'uni 'aha Siasi pe kautaha
oku ne unga ngaue kiai..
" Osi fakahinohino kitautolu 'ehe Tohitapu ,,,,'uluaki fakalelei mohokaunga'api "" ko fee 'ai hoto kaunga'api ...... " KO KINAUTOLU OKU TE FAKAONGOOGNO KIAI .. koe ha leva e fakalelei , koefakalelei koe "tangofua ' oua e talangata'a ..
Koe kakano'i kalokataile koe hau he ifo , kano lelei pea 'iaki huihuia..
koe fakalea pe ..kae 'oua na'a mou 'ita ,,
sami.
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Sepesi H Piukala
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Fatai Slender
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Malo Takamuli e fakalotolahi,,,,,, ka 'oku hange kiate au... Oku 'iai ha me'a oku ke/mou mamahi ai he Uniting moho nau kau Taki?Kuou 'Ofeina e feinga na'a mou fai moe ACC, ka kiate au..... ne lahi 'aupito e ngaahi alternative kiai .Hiki kita kihe Siasi 'Ahofitu, pe koe Mamonga , hahahaaa.Koe uhi, he ko ho'omou mamahi koee he ikai tali ho'o Kole 'ehe Siasi, pea koe me'a 'ena 'e Hoko koho'o mou tala "KUO " kovi pe 'ikai taau e Ngaue 'ae Siasi..koe anga pe fakalea faka" 'faka'Epeleli"..moe 'ofa lahi atu ...sami.
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To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, 31 March, 2011 8:17:31 PM
Subject: RE: [tasilisili] Re: The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Malo e mosi īŋŊe Tangata o īŋŊlohimi, kuo ke fai īŋŊe tau lelei pea kuo ke toki
ikuna ni īŋŊe fakapuepue homou feotus laīŋŊ na. Talu īŋŊnau lama Koe ha meīŋŊ
laulaunoa ke ke maumauīŋŊ koīŋŊnau toki mas ee.
HeīŋŊkai kenau taketi ki ha taha oku hange hono mahuīŋŊnga ha potupotuīŋŊ Siakleti
hange ko Au, ka tenau taketiīŋŊ Koe.
1. Oku ke taki he Kulupu oku ou kau ai mo au koe ACC hono tala oku hinga
hotau Siasi UCA.
2. Oku ke lea taīŋŊufi ki he Siasi īŋŊnau fakaotuamate hono tali ke faifekau īŋŊe
kakai mosi fakasotoma.
3. NaīŋŊke Debate moe Sekelitali Seniale oe Siasi UCA .
4. Ko e lanu Koe kuo ke fakafepakiīŋŊ īŋŊnau feinga ketau hoko e kakai oe
Pasifiki koe īŋŊntertainer ''ae UCA.
5. Oku ke manako hono discipline e kau Faifekau hange ko ia kuo nau fai atu
kiate Koe,meīŋŊpango !meīŋŊpango īŋŊpee ko īŋŊnai Konisenisi matee.
6. Oku lava ke alea īŋŊ ha fīŋŊahinga level pee, fekauīŋŊki moe meīŋŊ oku tui ki ai.
7. NaīŋŊke taofi ke malanga atu e Palesiteni oe UCA , he ko ia naīŋŊne
fakamaopoopo e pea proposal oe faifekau fakasotoma pea tali īŋŊ he UCA.
7. 'īŋŊku īŋŊkai eke fakalai ki he system fakaetangata oku tauhi īŋŊki e UCA.
Oku lahi e meīŋŊ keu lea ki ai, ka koe taīŋŊoli taha koe maau hoomou fakataha īŋŊe
meīŋŊ ke fai kuo nau hamusi īŋŊe mafai oe faiīŋŊngalotu mo īŋŊnau faifekau , neongo
īŋŊne ha nenefu he 'oku fakaetangata pe īŋŊnau tustusni.
Ko e fanga kiīŋŊ lao ko eni oku fakamata atu heīŋŊkai kenau mavivi īŋŊnautolu ha
meīŋŊ he koe tau mo e fefashi fakalaumalie, koe Otua oku ne īŋŊfioīŋŊ e meīŋŊ oku ke
fai pea oku īŋŊkai ko ha toki tangata Koe ke fai pehe talu hono fakahinohinoi
kitauolu īŋŊhe Tohitapu īŋŊki e kau Tangata ne fakatoīŋŊi īŋŊ he Otua ke fai īŋŊne
ngaue ha feitus Oku pakukaa fakalaumalie hange ko ia oku tau īŋŊai he īŋŊho ni.
Tangata oku ou sio atu pe heni hoo malimali he meīŋŊ kuo fai īŋŊ he Siasi ki hoo
mosii. Kapaua naīŋŊke fakatooki ha sosa honau peito īŋŊ kei suspend pe Koe
Ko ena kuo tokoni mo popou atu ho ngahi taokete Faifekau ,pea oku ou tui oku
nau kei ofa pe īŋŊate Koe ka īŋŊ he feitus faingofua pe teke foua , ko e as atu
ki he feitus ko ena oku ke īŋŊai, ko e īŋŊiki pe kemo takaua.
Ko e meīŋŊ oku ou ako mei he UCA heni, oku nau feinga ke fakamahino ki he ACC
tenau ala tuli mo huīŋŊ hoomou ngahi ngaue he UCA ko hoomou fakafepaki ki he
system hinga oku nau īŋŊlofi īŋŊki hotau Siasi.
Malo moe ofa atu ki ho fofonga he faingata'a kuo tukuakiīŋŊ kiate Koe.
Sepesi H Piukala.
Sepesi H. Piukala
Ph: +61401 590 917
Email: sep...@optusnet.com.au
Exodus 2:6 Then he said, "I am the God of your Father, the God of Abraham,
the God of Issac and the God of Jacob."
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Maú mo Maú , tau vakai pe kia Fakapulia he ko ia óku tonu taha éne maú ki ha foí vaitonga ki he nague óku tau fai í Muli ni,ío kei vaínga pe mo ua mo Fakapulia ee ha ha ha, tulou atu.
Óku fakalanga kata pe talanoa ngoue ia moe foí fakataataaa e too Kumala 'eee.
Malo e kei lotu mai ki homou tehina faifekau ni, pea óku íkai kovi ha fakalea ia ka óku fai mei ha loto óku ófa ..
Malo hoómou kei fofonga malimali holo hotau ápi ni.
Hahahahahahahaaa Takamuli sai ange pe to kumala ia he funga fonuaaa – ko e foha atu pea sai ki hono fkmaketi ‘i 42. Ko e manatu pe ia ki he to kumala he ‘oku fai ngofua hono too, fu’u faingata’a ‘a e to talo he ‘oku fefeka ‘a e kelekele he tu’aliku!!!! Tukukehe ‘a oloolo ‘oku laku noa’ia pe ia pea ‘e tupu!!! Mei he vai masima ‘o tahi. ‘Atunga ia ‘etau ‘au mai ki ‘Epeleli!!! Fele ‘a Fk-‘Epeleli ‘a e sio mo e fanongo!!
Ma’u
Sepesi H Piukala
-----Original Message-----Sepesi, Ai pea ke taki mai 'a Sami ke tau o mo Sisilia 'o feinga'i hano lou'ulu na'a ko e me'a ia 'oku pehe ai si'ene ng. lavelave. hahahahah 'oua e 'ita. Fatai
From: tasil...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tasil...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fatai Slender
Sent: Friday, 1 April 2011 7:40 PM
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tasilisili] Re: The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
From: sep...@optusnet.com.au
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tasilisili] Re: The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 19:31:45 +1100
Malo Sami étau mas e įho ni malo e tau moe ngaue mei he muķifonua na.Oku ķkai ko ha kiķ mamahi,, koe mamahi atu ka oku ķkai ko e mamahi kotoa pe ke mavahe mo mavae, ka oku iai pe mamahi ke fakaalaala pe he anga e nofo naį fetooaki.Ko e mavahe ia oku tali peau pee , heé ķai pe foķ peau ķ he taimi totonu pea mahino ko ha peau Fakalaumalie pee naį hua eni haįte tafia noaķa he anga hoto loto fakaetangataa.Oku ou tokangaķ hifo kuo ke tukuakiķ į Hedley ki he talangataį, lea lahi ia įu mo makaka Sami(pe ko ia koaa ?) he oku teéki ke ke fanongo lelei mo fakakaukau ki he meį ne talanoa ki ai į Hedley, ķkai ngata ai ko e Taki o e Siasi ko Sisu Kalaisi.
ofa atu .Sami.Sepesi H. PiukalaPh: +61401 590 917Email: sep...@optusnet.com.auExodus 2:6 Then he said, "I am the God of your Father, the God of Abraham, the God of Issac and the God of Jacob."*****************************************************************************************************************************************
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From: tasil...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tasil...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sam Pakofe
Sent: Friday, 1 April 2011 5:36 PM
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Re: The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Malo Takamuli e fakalotolahi,,,,,, ka 'oku hange kiate au... Oku 'iai ha me'a oku ke/mou mamahi ai he Uniting moho nau kau Taki?Kuou 'Ofeina e feinga na'a mou fai moe ACC, ka kiate au..... ne lahi 'aupito e ngaahi alternative kiai .Hiki kita kihe Siasi 'Ahofitu, pe koe Mamonga , hahahaaa.Koe uhi, he ko ho'omou mamahi koee he ikai tali ho'o Kole 'ehe Siasi, pea koe me'a 'ena 'e Hoko koho'o mou tala "KUO " kovi pe 'ikai taau e Ngaue 'ae Siasi..koe anga pe fakalea faka" 'faka'Epeleli"..moe 'ofa lahi atu ...sami.
From: Sepesi H Piukala <sep...@optusnet.com.au>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, 31 March, 2011 8:17:31 PM
Subject: RE: [tasilisili] Re: The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Malo e mosi įe Tangata o Élohimi, kuo ke fai įe tau lelei pea kuo ke toki
ikuna ni įe fakapuepue homou feotus laį na. Talu énau lama Koe ha meį
laulaunoa ke ke maumauķ koénau toki mas ee.
Heķkai kenau taketi ki ha taha oku hange hono mahuķnga ha potupotuķ Siakleti
hange ko Au, ka tenau taketiķ Koe.
1. Oku ke taki he Kulupu oku ou kau ai mo au koe ACC hono tala oku hinga
hotau Siasi UCA.
2. Oku ke lea taéufi ki he Siasi énau fakaotuamate hono tali ke faifekau įe
kakai mosi fakasotoma.
3. Naįke Debate moe Sekelitali Seniale oe Siasi UCA .
4. Ko e lanu Koe kuo ke fakafepakiķ énau feinga ketau hoko e kakai oe
Pasifiki koe éntertainer ''ae UCA.
5. Oku ke manako hono discipline e kau Faifekau hange ko ia kuo nau fai atu
kiate Koe,meįpango !meįpango įpee ko énai Konisenisi matee.
6. Oku lava ke alea ķ ha fįahinga level pee, fekauįki moe meį oku tui ki ai.
7. Naįke taofi ke malanga atu e Palesiteni oe UCA , he ko ia naįne
fakamaopoopo e pea proposal oe faifekau fakasotoma pea tali é he UCA.
7. 'öku ķkai eke fakalai ki he system fakaetangata oku tauhi įki e UCA.
Oku lahi e meį keu lea ki ai, ka koe taéoli taha koe maau hoomou fakataha įe
meį ke fai kuo nau hamusi įe mafai oe faiįngalotu mo énau faifekau , neongo
éne ha nenefu he 'oku fakaetangata pe énau tustusni.
Ko e fanga kiķ lao ko eni oku fakamata atu heķkai kenau mavivi énautolu ha
meį he koe tau mo e fefashi fakalaumalie, koe Otua oku ne įfioķ e meį oku ke
fai pea oku ķkai ko ha toki tangata Koe ke fai pehe talu hono fakahinohinoi
kitauolu éhe Tohitapu įki e kau Tangata ne fakatoįi é he Otua ke fai éne
ngaue ha feitus Oku pakukaa fakalaumalie hange ko ia oku tau ķai he įho ni.
Tangata oku ou sio atu pe heni hoo malimali he meį kuo fai é he Siasi ki hoo
mosii. Kapaua naįke fakatooki ha sosa honau peito é kei suspend pe Koe
Ko ena kuo tokoni mo popou atu ho ngahi taokete Faifekau ,pea oku ou tui oku
nau kei ofa pe ķate Koe ka ķ he feitus faingofua pe teke foua , ko e as atu
ki he feitus ko ena oku ke ķai, ko e Éiki pe kemo takaua.
Ko e meį oku ou ako mei he UCA heni, oku nau feinga ke fakamahino ki he ACC
tenau ala tuli mo huķ hoomou ngahi ngaue he UCA ko hoomou fakafepaki ki he
system hinga oku nau įlofi įki hotau Siasi.
Malo moe ofa atu ki ho fofonga he faingata'a kuo tukuakiķ kiate Koe.
Daphne Taukolonga
| Takamuli mo Sami mo Hedley. Malo 'etau kei makalo mai 'o a'usia 'a e faka'osinga 'o e uike ni kau tangata. Na'e kamata 'a e tepile ni mo 'eku lau 'a e ngaahi fetalanoa'aki. Na'aku tu'u malohi 'aupito 'ihe poupou kihe taukapo 'a Uani mo Sami kihe mahu'inga 'o e muimui kihe lao. Na'aku nofo mai foki mo 'eku fakakaukau loto mo fakafehu'i pe koe haa nai 'oku fu'u 'extreme' ai ha taha kene a'u kihe tu'unga koe talangata'a kihe laoo. Na'e toe hanga pe 'e Hedley 'o fakaa'u 'eku fifilii. Koe ako lahi 'a'aku meihe me'a 'oku mateaki'i, kuo iku 'o suspend koe 'uhi ko 'ene kavekave a'u 'ihe 'ene fakahoko 'a e tui moe ngaue faka'evangelioo 'oku malanga'i 'ehe kosipeli. 'Oku ou tui fakapapau na'e 'osi haa mahino kia Hedley 'a e choices, ko 'ene fili ke muimui kihe lao moe tu'utu'uni 'a e 'superiors' kane tukuange 'a e si'i kakai 'oku 'homeless', pe ko 'ene fili kene hanga 'o fua kinautolu 'o hange koe talanoa kihe tauhi sipi lelei, 'o kaungaa mokosia mo fiekaia fakataha mo kinautolu. Na'e 'osi haa hake 'ihe ngaahi fakamatala 'ihe tepile ni kuo holo ki lalo 'o e tokolahi 'o e kakai 'oku nau kau kihe christianity 'i mamani, kau ai mo 'Aositelelia ni. 'Ihe lolotonga koee 'a e holo ki lalo 'a e tokolahii kuo 'asi hake 'a e tokotaha kuo 'suspend' koe 'uhi ko 'ene mateaki'i 'a e 'homeless'. Wow! Hedley, you are a brave man! I do salute to you! Koe 'ofeinaa 'a koe 'oku ke taukapo'i 'a e 'homeless' 'o a'u ki hono liiaki koe ki tu'a. Koe si'i kakai 'ena ia 'oku 'ikai kenau 'contribute' kinautolu kihe siasi moe fonua 'ihe lau 'ae kakai tokolahi. Na'e anga fefe ho'o ma'u 'a e fa'ahinga loto 'ofa pehe na!!! It must be tough, but great on you! Koe lotu lelei ia 'oku pehee, 'ai pea 'ai ke mahino 'oku 'identify' fakataha kita moe kakai na'e malanga'i 'e Sisu ketau 'ofa aii. 'Oku sai pe hono tautea'i 'o 'ona koee he na'ake foaki ho'o mo'ui ma'ae 'Otua, koe message 'oku mahino maii. 'Oku ke taukapoi' 'a e 'homeless', Hedley, keke 'alu atu 'a e fu'u toketaa ko koe 'o taukapo'i kinautolu he 'oku ma'u ha'o koloa meia kinautolu? Wow! Koe Nonga moe Melino 'oku nofo'ia koe, puke nima ki ai, pea 'oku ou fakamalo atu ho'o fili ke kalusefai ho'o mo'ui moho ki'i famili kae toe fakaongo le'olahi ange 'a e mahu'inga ketau fai 'a e 'ofa kihe ngata'anga moe lahi tahaa. Fakatauange ke tu'u aipe ho'o falala 'ihe 'Otua he 'oku 'ikai hala ha'ane founga 'a'ana, neongo 'e hala kihe lao. Kapau leva 'oku te fili 'ihe founga Ta'e'iloaa, pea 'oku totonu kete tali moe ngaahi tautea 'o e fili kihe Ta'e'iloaa. 'Oku 'ikai teke fononga tokotaha, I am one of those who walk with you also! ofa atu daphne |
Sam Pakofe
Sam Pakofe
From: Fatai Slender <fatais...@hotmail.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, 1 April, 2011 7:40:21 PM
Subject: RE: [tasilisili] Re: The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Sepesi, Ai pea ke taki mai 'a Sami ke tau o mo Sisilia 'o feinga'i hano lou'ulu na'a ko e me'a ia 'oku pehe ai si'ene ng. lavelave. hahahahah 'oua e 'ita. Fatai
From: sep...@optusnet.com.au
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tasilisili] Re: The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 19:31:45 +1100
-----Original Message-----
From: tasil...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tasil...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sam Pakofe
Sent: Friday, 1 April 2011 5:36 PM
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Re: The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Malo Takamuli e fakalotolahi,,,,,, ka 'oku hange kiate au... Oku 'iai ha me'a oku ke/mou mamahi ai he Uniting moho nau kau Taki?Kuou 'Ofeina e feinga na'a mou fai moe ACC, ka kiate au..... ne lahi 'aupito e ngaahi alternative kiai .Hiki kita kihe Siasi 'Ahofitu, pe koe Mamonga , hahahaaa.Koe uhi, he ko ho'omou mamahi koee he ikai tali ho'o Kole 'ehe Siasi, pea koe me'a 'ena 'e Hoko koho'o mou tala "KUO " kovi pe 'ikai taau e Ngaue 'ae Siasi..koe anga pe fakalea faka" 'faka'Epeleli"..moe 'ofa lahi atu ...sami.
From: Sepesi H Piukala <sep...@optusnet.com.au>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, 31 March, 2011 8:17:31 PM
Subject: RE: [tasilisili] Re: The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Malo e mosi įe Tangata o Élohimi, kuo ke fai įe tau lelei pea kuo ke toki
ikuna ni įe fakapuepue homou feotus laį na. Talu énau lama Koe ha meį
laulaunoa ke ke maumauķ koénau toki mas ee.
Heķkai kenau taketi ki ha taha oku hange hono mahuķnga ha potupotuķ Siakleti
hange ko Au, ka tenau taketiķ Koe.
1. Oku ke taki he Kulupu oku ou kau ai mo au koe ACC hono tala oku hinga
hotau Siasi UCA.
2. Oku ke lea taéufi ki he Siasi énau fakaotuamate hono tali ke faifekau įe
kakai mosi fakasotoma.
3. Naįke Debate moe Sekelitali Seniale oe Siasi UCA .
4. Ko e lanu Koe kuo ke fakafepakiķ énau feinga ketau hoko e kakai oe
Pasifiki koe éntertainer ''ae UCA.
5. Oku ke manako hono discipline e kau Faifekau hange ko ia kuo nau fai atu
kiate Koe,meįpango !meįpango įpee ko énai Konisenisi matee.
6. Oku lava ke alea ķ ha fįahinga level pee, fekauįki moe meį oku tui ki ai.
7. Naįke taofi ke malanga atu e Palesiteni oe UCA , he ko ia naįne
fakamaopoopo e pea proposal oe faifekau fakasotoma pea tali é he UCA.
7. 'öku ķkai eke fakalai ki he system fakaetangata oku tauhi įki e UCA.
Oku lahi e meį keu lea ki ai, ka koe taéoli taha koe maau hoomou fakataha įe
meį ke fai kuo nau hamusi įe mafai oe faiįngalotu mo énau faifekau , neongo
éne ha nenefu he 'oku fakaetangata pe énau tustusni.
Ko e fanga kiķ lao ko eni oku fakamata atu heķkai kenau mavivi énautolu ha
meį he koe tau mo e fefashi fakalaumalie, koe Otua oku ne įfioķ e meį oku ke
fai pea oku ķkai ko ha toki tangata Koe ke fai pehe talu hono fakahinohinoi
kitauolu éhe Tohitapu įki e kau Tangata ne fakatoįi é he Otua ke fai éne
ngaue ha feitus Oku pakukaa fakalaumalie hange ko ia oku tau ķai he įho ni.
Tangata oku ou sio atu pe heni hoo malimali he meį kuo fai é he Siasi ki hoo
mosii. Kapaua naįke fakatooki ha sosa honau peito é kei suspend pe Koe
Ko ena kuo tokoni mo popou atu ho ngahi taokete Faifekau ,pea oku ou tui oku
nau kei ofa pe ķate Koe ka ķ he feitus faingofua pe teke foua , ko e as atu
ki he feitus ko ena oku ke ķai, ko e Éiki pe kemo takaua.
Ko e meį oku ou ako mei he UCA heni, oku nau feinga ke fakamahino ki he ACC
tenau ala tuli mo huķ hoomou ngahi ngaue he UCA ko hoomou fakafepaki ki he
system hinga oku nau įlofi įki hotau Siasi.
Malo moe ofa atu ki ho fofonga he faingata'a kuo tukuakiķ kiate Koe.
Sam Pakofe
Subject: RE: [tasilisili] Re: The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
sisilia tupou-thomas
Sepesi H Piukala
Fatai Slender
'Oua te mo si'i pehe'i si'i Sami na'a faifai peau fekau 'a Sami ke tautea kimoua. Sami, kapau 'oku ke 'i Long Bay pea ke telefoni mai he 'oku ou ofi atu kiai keu lele atu 'o sio atu pea 'oku ki'i tokolahi ai e fanau Tonga 'oku ou fa'a 'a'ahi kiai. Fatai
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 12:12:07 +1100
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Re: The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 months
Sepesi H Piukala
Sepesi H Piukala
Sam Pakofe
Swing low, sweet chariot
Coming for to carry me home,
Swing low, sweet chariot,
Coming for to carry me home.
'ofa atu ..kihe tele'a ..
sami.
From: sisilia tupou-thomas <sisili...@gmail.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, 2 April, 2011 12:12:07 PM
Sam Pakofe
Sitiveni Faupula
Veni malo , ka 'oku hange ia kiate au,,,, koe ongo me'a kehekehe pe ......1.ka kuou tui pe koe me'a ne hoko kia Hedley ia, ne hoko ia ihe Policy/ system, 'ae Siasi kihe Management ( Duty & Care) .'aia KUO 'OSI HOKO , kuo mo'ui pea kuo paa 'o hoko e maumau ia.. pea 'e malava leva ke hilifaki hano tautea'ii pe fakamalolo'ii. 'o fakatatau kihe lahi moe ivi 'oe me'a ne hoko ..2.Koe me'a foki koee 'a MCnab ia, he'ikai tene hanga 'e ia 'o maumau'ii ai e Policy/system 'ae Siasi.. he oku te'eki ke " Activate " oku kei fai hono review pea fai ai hano faakaukau'i pe 'e malava ke " mo'ui'o- Ngaue ".. Ka koe fili fakataautaha pe foki ia Veni , he'ikai ke pehee kene fakamalohi'i ai au, kiai pe ko koe kiai,,, kae 'oualeva kuo ta hanga 'o Fakamo'ui ( activate ) ke mo'ui 'aki ha'ata tali..Koe me'a 'a MCnab 'e hange pe ia koha ki'i telefoni ...... pea koia pe tene tali pea 'e 'aonga kiai 'oku 'ikai fakamalohi'ii ,, he koe kau telinga tuli foki ai 'e mahino pe 'enau ta'e tali ia.......( fakamolemole atu kihe Ongo Faifekau mo mou tolu kau Faifekau he pa'enga ni, he ngali kuote kauuitalanoa atu mo ngututamulea kihomou mala'e, kae hufanga atu pe he Lotu)Ka koe anga pe masi'i 'Ahau e fakatalanoa, he 'oku tau monu'ia ko'etau Fononga moe kau Faifekau- 'oku mohu Kataki pea nau toe lotu lelei foki..lelue aipe...sami.To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, 30 March, 2011 10:42:01 PM
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] The Church suspended Rev Dr Hedley Fihaki for 3 monthsmo’oni ‘aupito ia fkongo pea ko ‘etau fk’amu ke fai tatau e tu’utu’uni e siasi ki he kau maumau lao (lao ‘a hai?).ko e ‘uluaki pe foki ‘oku ‘ikai ke suspend ‘e he siasi ia ‘a Mcnab lolotonga ko ia ‘oku ne maumau’i ‘e ia e folofola ‘a e ‘otua ‘aki ‘ene deny e ‘otua ‘o sisu. ‘ai pe mu’a ke fair play uca ‘etau me’a. Fefe ‘a hono fk’ata ‘e he UCA ‘a e gay and les ke faifekau hili ko ia ‘oku ta’ofi ‘e he folofola ke ‘ulungaanga pehe ha taha ‘o e pule’anga ‘o e ‘otua.please do not get things mixed up! ko e tu’u koeni ‘oku maumau’i pe hedley ia e tu’utu’u ni ‘a e tangata, pea suspend ia. ka ki hono maumau’u ‘e he kau faifekau ko ee ‘oku nau tali e me’a ‘oku teke ‘e he kau kei mo mcnab e folofola ‘a e ‘otua! come now, let us reason together.tapuaki ‘ia kalaisi
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