Tonganow.......
Siosiua (Josh) Fonua
Ko e me’a lelei ko e tau’ataina, ‘a e tau’ataina kuo foaki mai ‘e he ‘Otua ke fili ‘a e fa’ahinga ‘o e tangata ki he lelei pe ko e kovi. Tau’ataina kuo foaki ‘e he Konisitutone ‘’o e fonua, ke tau lea mo tohi ‘e tau fakakaukau, tau’ataina ki he’;etau lotu, koloa, moeha fua ‘a e me’a ‘oku tau tau’ataina ki ai ‘i Tonga ni. Ko e tau’ataina ia kuo foaki kia Lufe ken e ui ‘a e Tu’i ko e “puppet king”. Ko e tau’ataina ia kuo foaki ia ‘Ungatea, ken e ui e ngaahi tu’utu’uni ‘a e Pule’anga, ko e “idiotic decisions”, pea imply, ‘oku lau kitautolu ‘e he Pule’anga, ko e kau “idiots”. Kapau ko ha pule’anga fakaehaua ‘eni, pea kapau ko ha pule’anga taki ‘e ha kau “idiots”, ‘oku ‘ikai ke tau lava makupusi pe te tau fefe. ‘Oku ou malie’ia pe au ‘i he react ‘a e faifekau (Lufe) pea mo eTokoni Pule Ako QSC (‘Ungatea), fakatou’osi ko e ongo tu’ukimu’a ‘i he SUTT. Mo ‘uta ange ongo me’a, ki he fakakaukau ‘amautolu kainanga ‘o e Siasi, ‘amautolu koee ‘oku fakaongo atu kiate kimoutolu kau tu’ukimu’a ‘i he Siasi. ‘Oku ‘i ai koaa ha konga he folofola ‘oku uki ai efaka’apa’apa ki he kau taki, pe ko ha komiki koaa ‘eni ia ‘oku ou lau au ki ai.
Kapau ‘oku ‘i ai ha fakamanamana ki he pule’anga, ‘o tu’unga ai ‘a e toe fakaloloa ‘o e taimi taaputapui ‘i loto Nuku’alofa, ko e toki pule’anga fakasesele ia kapau ten au fakaha mai ki he kakai ‘oku ‘i ai e ni’ihi ‘oku nau alelea ke toe tutu ‘a Nuku’alofa. ‘E fefe leva ai ‘e nau ngaue ke fakatotolo ‘a e kau perpetrators.
Ko e taha, ko e Tu’i, ko e lau mahina pe ‘eni ‘ene hoko ki he taloni neongo ‘oku te’eki ke hilifaki kalauni. Why not give him a chance? Also, the PM is still trying to have both feet on the ground, lolotonga ‘ene feinga ha tauhei ki he fatongia, kuo tutu hono falekoloa ‘ona. ‘E ‘ikai nai ke lava ke tau tukuange ha faingamalie ma’a e PM mo eKing, tukuange ha ta’u ke fai ai hona fatongia, pea ka toki ‘ikai, then we have every right to crucify them.
Ko e taha, ‘oku uesia fefe fau ‘e tau mo’ui ‘i Tonga ni he me’a kuo hoko? Mo’oni ‘oku ki’i tu’u vahava ‘a e ngaahi falekoloa, pea kei fakataimi e maketi ki Tofoa mo e ngaahi ve’ehala. But so what?
Ko e me’a ‘oku ou manavasi’i au ki ai, ke ‘oua na’a tau feinga fokotu’u ha fa’ahinga me’a ke hiki ki ai e tokanga, ka e tuku e tefito, kohai na’e responsible ki he tutu ‘o Nuku’alofa. ‘E ‘ikai ke tau lava mavahe mei he issue ko ia, ko e uho mo e ‘elito ia ‘o e me’a kotoa pe ‘oku hoko he ‘aho ni.
Ka ‘oku ou kole atu, ki he kau tu’ukimu’a ‘o e SUTT, mou kataki ‘o manatu’i ange kimautolu kainanga ‘o eSiasi, ‘oku mau look up kia kimoutolu, pea mou ‘omi ha me’a temau polepole ai ‘ia moutolu pea mau ongo’i ‘oku justify ‘e mau falala atu.
Malo mo e ‘ofa
Valu
d levi
Ko e me’a lelei ko e tau’ataina, ‘a e tau’ataina kuo foaki mai ‘e he ‘Otua ke fili ‘a e fa’ahinga ‘o e tangata ki he lelei pe ko e kovi. Tau’ataina kuo foaki ‘e he Konisitutone ‘’o e fonua, ke tau lea mo tohi ‘e tau fakakaukau, tau’ataina ki he’;etau lotu, koloa, moeha fua ‘a e me’a ‘oku tau tau’ataina ki ai ‘i Tonga ni. Ko e tau’ataina ia kuo foaki kia Lufe ken e ui ‘a e Tu’i ko e “puppet king”. Ko e tau’ataina ia kuo foaki ia ‘Ungatea, ken e ui e ngaahi tu’utu’uni ‘a e Pule’anga, ko e “idiotic decisions”, pea imply, ‘oku lau kitautolu ‘e he Pule’anga, ko e kau “idiots”. Kapau ko ha pule’anga fakaehaua ‘eni, pea kapau ko ha pule’anga taki ‘e ha kau “idiots”, ‘oku ‘ikai ke tau lava makupusi pe te tau fefe. ‘Oku ou malie’ia pe au ‘i he react ‘a e faifekau (Lufe) pea mo eTokoni Pule Ako QSC (‘Ungatea),
ko e toki pule’anga fakasesele ia kapau ten au fakaha mai ki he kakai ‘oku ‘i ai e ni’ihi ‘oku nau alelea ke toe tutu ‘a Nuku’alofa. ‘E fefe leva ai ‘e nau ngaue ke fakatotolo ‘a e kau perpetrators.
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loke
> Ka 'oku ou kole atu, ki he kau tu'ukimu'a 'o e SUTT, mou kataki 'o manatu'i
> ange kimautolu kainanga 'o eSiasi, 'oku mau look up kia kimoutolu, pea mou
> 'omi ha me'a temau polepole ai 'ia moutolu pea mau ongo'i 'oku justify 'e
> mau falala atu.
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Valu malo e fakatokanga, pea 'oku mau kau ai pe mo kimautolu he lave
'i he fakatokanga ko ia, ko e kole mahu'inga aupito 'aupito, pea 'oku
ou tui 'aupito ki he lelei 'e ma'u mei he kau taki te nau taa sipinga
lelei 'i he lea mo e ngaue mo e mo'ui foki, kae 'ikai ko ha taha pe 'i
he ngaahi me'a ni. 'E ikai kovi ki he ongo tu'ukimu'a ko eni 'o e
SUTT, kia Lufe mo 'Ungatea, ke na kole fakamolemole mai 'i he
fa'ahinga lea fa'iteliha na'a na fai. 'Oku mahu'inga pe ke mo anga
fakatookilalo ka mo kole fakamolemole mai he ko e taa sipinga foki ki
he kainanga 'o e siasi.
malo,
loke
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"Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it."---
Andre Gide (1869 - 1951)
ung...@qsc.to
'E ikai kovi ki he ongo tu'ukimu'a ko eni 'o e
> SUTT, kia Lufe mo 'Ungatea, ke na kole fakamolemole mai 'i he
> fa'ahinga lea fa'iteliha na'a na fai. 'Oku mahu'inga pe ke mo anga
> fakatookilalo ka mo kole fakamolemole mai he ko e taa sipinga foki ki
> he kainanga 'o e siasi.
Kataki 'o 'oua 'e pae noa'ia 'etau responses ki he ngaahi talanga. Ko e
response 'a Lufe mo e response 'a'aku ko e ongo fo'i responses kehekehe ia
'e ua. Ne 'ikai ke ma fa'u ha fo'i response pea ma sign loua ki ai. Ko
ia, treat 'ema responses differently. 'I he'eku response 'a'aku, ko e me'a
pe 'oku tuhu'i mai 'oku ngali "ta'efaka'apa'apa" ko 'eku ngaue'aki 'a e
fo'i lea ko e "idiots" 'a ia na'a ku ngaue'aki kiate au as a member of
Tongan public. Pea ko e fo'i hypothetical question ia. 'Oua 'e
fakamalohi'i e kakai ke kole fakamolemole ta'e'omai ha ngaahi fakamo'oni
pau ki he ngaahi lea 'oku mou fiema'u ke fai ai 'a e kole fakamolemole.
Ko 'etau tui fakapolitikale 'oku kehekehe, 'e 'ikai ke lava ke tau "tatau"
'i he 'isiu ko ia. Ko e paenga ko 'eni 'oku 'uhinga ia ke tau lava 'o
femahino'aki neongo 'etau faikehekehe. 'Oku 'ikai ke 'uhinga ko hoku
lakanga tokoni pule te ne pule'i 'eku "sio" pe vakai fakapolitikale. Ko e
tui fakapolitikale ko e me'a fakafo'ituitui ia. Pea 'oku 'ikai ke hanga 'e
ha taha 'o pule'i pe ko hai 'oku te "look up" ki ai pea ko hai 'oku te
"look down" ki ai. 'Oku tau takitaha 'a e tau'ataina ke fakahoko 'ete
me'a 'oku te tui ki ai, pea kapau 'oku 'ikai fakafiemalie ia ki he kakai
kehe, so be it! Ka hu'i atu 'a e fu'u lakanga ni, 'e kei tatau aipe 'a
'ete tui fakapolitikale!
Tuifua, Talanoa
koe. Ko e kiikii 'a e fanga ki'i veka vao 'oku fe'unga pe ia moe ki'i
'atakai 'oku kiokio ai......koe tala 'o e mala'e fakapolitikale "IF WE
HAD KNOWN THEN WHAT WE KNOW NOW?" The King and the Prime Ministers'
priorities will be to ensure that they have (people, civil services
etc.) all the tools necessary to carry Tongan diplomacy (rules and
regulations) forward in the 21st century. Tea, don't forget the 3R's;
Respect for yourself, Respect for others and Responsibility for all your
actions.
Take care,
Miss Noa
seni taniela
mokomoko pee!! manatu'i better than our action is our
reaction...malanga malie he tu'unga pea 'alu atu ki
'api te'eki moho mai e haka 'a hoa--pea tafulu maloo
pee hao 'a hoa etc...
malo pe malanga malie--but if we can't handle our
empty stomach--then we are hypocrites...
it seems there are already two evils on the
table--(the "pro-kingers" versus "pro-demo-ers")--the
questions are: 1) who is the lesser evil? 2)who
brought them there?--na'a tau 'i fee kitautolu
siasi--after all these years 3)if they(pro-king
vs.pro-demo) are the same, why bother??perhaps there
is a third party/option we may need to create.
ne lahi e kaikaila kimu'a he 16/11 ke liliu e kau taki
politikalee!! mahalo pee kuo taimi ke tau
kaikaila--it's time for the a re-conversion of us
spiritual leaders and the church....
hangee kuo mole falala moe faka'apa'apa 'a e ongo
faha'i fakatou'osi kia kitautolu kau taki
fakalaumalie...--when we reach that stage--two things
had happened, either :1)they are so evil and beyond
redemption or 2)we as "prophets" have lost our "God
anointed aura".....people(including the king etc.)
look at us as another bunch of powerful elites in the
society...
it would be very interesting to conduct a survey pea
fehu'i ki he kakai Tonga-- "when we mention the word
"faifekau" what words/adjectives that come to
mind.??"...it will be very interesting and painful
too...
as followers of Christ, we can be caught up with the
peripheral issues pea ngalo e fundamental issues that
we need to tackle.
tau tokanga 'o feinga ke pro-active 'i hono
fakakaukau'i e solution...na'a tau reactive pee 'o tau
toe hoko koe fakalahi ki he palopalema.
tungi arcade is still speaking: "burn the govt. and
the church will get grilled"--perhaps politics is a
reflection of the level of our spirituality as a
church and as a nation.
manatu'i ke tau fakamoleki hotau taimi ke talanoa mo e
'Otua 'i he lilo.
'ofa atu
seni
ung...@qsc.to
> Fine'eiki, 'ai e kataki ke lahi ke hoa moe fu'u kakala kuo fakakoloa'aki
> koe.
...........
ko e kakala haa koaa 'oku lau?
Tuifua, Talanoa
'e he tika.....'ofa atu.
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Subject: [tasilisili] Re: Tonganow.......
siua fonua
'E maumautaimi ha malanga malie mai ha taha na'a ku ma'u ha'ane
kaiha'a, he'ikai pe teu tui au ki ai. Pea neongo ai ha faiako lelei ha
puleako 'oku ne fa'a ta au, he'ikai pe keu lava 'e au 'o ako ha me'a
mei he'ene faiako!
'Oku 'iai 'ae ngaahi me'a 'oku tau tui ki ai, pea 'oku tau TAU'ATAINA
ke tau fili pe koefe tafa'aki te tau tui ki ai. Ka 'i he taimi tatau,
'oku 'iai hotau lakanga 'i he sosaieti 'oku pau ke tau tauhi mo ia.
Pea ko ia ai, kuopau ke tau feinga ke 'oua na'a uesia ha tafa'aki.
Me'apango koe 'ai hingoa, ka 'okapau te tau vakai ki he Minisita
Polisi malolo ko Neti. Te'eki ke Minisita, campaign 'o poupou ki he
kau fakafofonga 'oe kakai. Ui pe koee ke Minisita, toe pe ke ne hiki
holo 'eia e Tu'i hono 'apu'i he taimi kotoa. Ko 'ene toe to pe koee he
Minisita, 'ikai toe ha mingimingi'i me'a 'ene lau ki ai mo lau kovi ki
he Tu'i.
Lolotonga 'ene Minisita, ko 'ene lea mo 'ene ngaue mo 'ene to'onga
kotoa pe, na'e pau ke tuha moe Minisita 'o e Kalauni! Kou tui koe me'a
tatau pe 'oku 'uhinga ki ai 'a e tepile ni, ke tuha 'etau to'onga mo
'etau lea 'oku fai, moe kau PAIPA he SUTT!
koe kau talanoa atu pe!
ke...@post.com
> ia, treat 'ema responses differently. 'I he'eku response 'a'aku, ko e me'a
> pe 'oku tuhu'i mai 'oku ngali "ta'efaka'apa'apa" ko 'eku ngaue'aki 'a e
> fo'i lea ko e "idiots" 'a ia na'a ku ngaue'aki kiate au as a member of
> Tongan public. Pea ko e fo'i hypothetical question ia. 'Oua 'e
> fakamalohi'i e kakai ke kole fakamolemole ta'e'omai ha ngaahi fakamo'oni
> pau ki he ngaahi lea 'oku mou fiema'u ke fai ai 'a e kole fakamolemole.
Pe'i sai pe aa taonganui, 'ikai ke u lave'i 'ko hono talanoa mei ho Tongan public. Ne u si'i talanoa atu au ki ho'o tu'unga tu'ukimu'a 'i he SUTT 'a ia 'oku sio hake ki ai e kainanga 'o e siasi ko ia ne lau 'e Valu. Hange nai 'i he politikale ko e kole fakamolemole ko e fakahaa'i ia 'o e fo'i? Ka 'oku 'ikai foki taonganui ko ha 'ulungaanga kovi pe hia e kole fakamolemole ia 'i he lotu. Ka te kole fakamolemole 'uhinga pe 'ikai 'uhinga 'e kei vinaka pe ia 'i he lotu. 'Oku fiema'u kimoua mo Lufe ke mo kole fakamolemole ki he kainanga 'o e siasi he ko e sipinga ia ke mo taa he ko kimoua ko e tu'ukimu'a 'i he SUTT. Ko e anga fakatokilalo ia. Vakai na'a mo mate 'i he kole atu 'a e kalekale ke mo kole fakamolemole.
mo nofo hena,
loke
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> mokomoko pee!! manatu'i better than our action is our
> reaction...malanga malie he tu'unga pea 'alu atu ki
> 'api te'eki moho mai e haka 'a hoa--pea tafulu maloo
> pee hao 'a hoa etc...
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ko e mo'oni lahi seni. mou 'ofa mai 'o ma'u ha me'atokoni pea mou toki oo mai 'o tasilisili. Pea fakalelei mo e ngaahi hoa pea toki oo mai 'o tasilisili, 'oku 'i ai e ngaahi tasilisili 'oku te tala atu pe 'a e felongologoi mo e ngaahi hoa. pea mou toki ha'u kimoutolu 'o too mai homou mamahi kiate kimautolu. Pea ko 'emau ki'i fakahua atu ia kuo lele homou suka ki he hiva miliona, faifai pea si'i malolo ha taha, pea ko e ongoongo atu ko e lele e suka he lau e tasilisili.
vune mai kau vune atu,
Maile
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To: <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:58 AM
Subject: [tasilisili] Re: Tonganow.......
> 'Ungatea wrote:
>! Ka hu'i atu 'a e fu'u lakanga ni, 'e kei tatau aipe 'a
> 'ete tui fakapolitikale!
> -------------------------------------------------------> 'Ungatea, e fefe
> kapau 'e 'ohovale pe kuo hu'i atu e fu'u lakanga na ka e to e 'oatu ha
> fu'u lakanga faufaua 'o hange ko e Minisita Ako ( 'Oku malava pe he ko e
> minisita ako ko e faifekau) 'E kei tatau ai pe ho'o tui fakapolitikale?
>
>
>
>
> >
>
tv
hangee ko ia mei a Lufe & 'Ungatea, my respect for you guys goes up
immensley. Malo ia, pea 'oku ou tui au he'ikai fekau mai mei he
matapaa 'o hevani ia ke mo foki mai 'o ako lea ka mo toki foki ange.
ko 'emau fanongo atu pee ki he ngaahi lea ko ena pea 'oku ou manatu au
ki he tama hiva ko Bono (of U2). A strong christian ka ko 'ene ngaahi
lea he taimi 'e ni'ihi 'oku faka'ulia atu. Ka ko 'ene ngaue (esp in
Africa) 'oku 'ikai hano tatau (and his music change a lot of heart).
'Oku oli 'etau feinga he ngaahi tepile 'e ni'ihi ke tau tala e mo'oni
(be authentic about our faith), ka tau hanga mai ki he ngaahi tepile
'e ni'ihi 'oku tau femou'ekina he faka'alinga lelei (fall into some
kind of niceness that cloud genuine christian love). Pea tala ke tuku
e fai fakamaau and in correcting others we may be guilty in doing so
ourselves. Tuku hotau palepale ke lilingi ai hotau ngahai loto
(whatever it's in it), ka e 'oua 'e vave kole fakamolemole mo e
fakatupu fakalongolongo.
siua fonua
> Tuku hotau palepale ke lilingi ai hotau ngahai loto
> (whatever it's in it), ka e 'oua 'e vave kole fakamolemole mo e
> fakatupu fakalongolongo.
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'oku 'iai 'a e lao 'oe lab 'a e kau saianisi. Ka faifaiange pea hu'i
'e ha taha ha kemikale 'o hala, pea 'oku TAPU ke hua'i ki tu'a, not
even 'i he sink, koe'uhi he 'e kona ai pea fakatu'utamaki ki he
'atakai. Ka 'oku pau leva ke nau toe hu'i hifo ha kemikale ke ne
fakavaivai'i hifo e ivi 'oe kemikale, pea toki hua'i, pea 'oku pehe
tokua he'ikai uesia ai pe palopalema'ia ai 'ae 'atakai!
koe me'a tatau pe moe fakalanga talanoa 'oku ke fai manini. 'Oua 'e
omai 'o hua'i mai homou ngaahi loto heni he'e uesia ai, pea 'e kovi ia
ki he mo'ui 'a e kakai kehe pea 'e iku ai ki he fefakalongolongo'aki
moe fe'ite'ita ni. Kae hu'i atu ki loto 'aki 'a e FOLOFOLA MO'UI ke
fakavaivai hifo e ngaahi loto kuo hako, pea mou toki omai leva 'o
hua'i mai kae lava ha tokoni atu ke solova e ngaahi palopalema ko ia.
Koe me'a koee ki he ma'ali hake pe ki'i me'a kuo lele homou suka ki
'olunga pea mou omai 'o blah blah mai heni, 'oku fakatu'utamaki
'aupito ia he 'e konaa ai e kaungafononga ia ...
koe kau talanoa atu pe!
sfonua
tv
lava ka 'oku 'i ai e me'a malie 'oku 'asi mai he tepile ni. "ko e
fa'ahinga 'imisi 'o mamani 'oku fatu'aki kitautolu". 'Oku tau tupu
hake mo hono tuki-mo-nonof kitautolu he ngaahi mo'oni "faka-tonga" ('o
nusi fakataha e fakalotu mo e faka-tukufakaholo), pea ko e fetaulaki
moe tamaiki Tonga kuo movete 'i' mamani 'oku te fakatokanga'i 'a 'enau
fetaulaki mo ha mamani that demand a different kind of person off us!
Ko 'ema polave mo Loke he tepile ko ee 'oku fekau'aki mo e
fakafo'ituitui 'i hono nofo'anga 'i he faka-tokolahi. Pea 'oku hangee
kiate au 'oku 'i ai e ongo community 'oku na fekolosi'aki he tepile
ni. Ko e haa e ngaahi lea 'oku fe'unga mo Tonga pea ko e haa e ngaahi
lea 'oku fe'unga mo e lotu. (pe 'oku hala nai 'eku ma'u? - na'a ko e
tepile ia 'oku fekau'aki mo e 'ikai lea e lotu ki he politikale? &
vice versa?). Kapau nai na'e toe fakalea "fakamatapule" 'e Lufe &
'Ungatea 'ena fakakaukau, 'e kehe nai 'etau response ki ai?
Ko e anga ia 'eku vakai ki he ngaahi lea na'a na ngaue'aki. Ko e me'a
'e taha 'a e anga justification ki he ngali kuo na tukuaki'i nai. Pe
'oku hala pe 'ikai 'ena ma'uu ('a e ongo tu'ukimu'a SUTT), ka 'oku ou
fiefia au he 'oku ngali ia 'oku nau kei human being. He ko e taimi 'e
ni'ihi kuo hangee kau ngaue Siasi ia ha kau 'angelo. We don't allow
them to make a mistake. 'Oku ou tui ko e faka'apa'apa fakalotu 'oku
fefusiaki mo e faka'apa'apa fakatonga he taimi 'e ni'ihi. Pea 'oku toe
lahi ange 'a e faka'apa'apa fk-lotu when one lives an honest life -
even if you make a mistake. Faka'apa'apa faka-tonga 'oku ki'i taka
fakatuta he taimi 'e ni'ihi. He 'oku mo'oni e punake - 'Eiki ko e 'ofa
'a'au ko e fu'u moana loloto ('oku 'ikai ko ha lab ke vela ngofua).
Pea ko e haa nai 'oku tau manavahee ai he mole hotau Tonga? me'aa pea
fai hano toe vakai'i e "jesus & culture, jesus above culture, jesus as
culture ...etc". ka koe anga pe foki e faka'aa'aa atu
Ikani Tolu
Malo 'etau lava pea malo mo e lelei 'ae kau Tasilisili
'Oku ou tui ko e response na'e fai 'e Valu 'o Tafulu'i
si'i 'Ungatea ke saalapu 'oua 'e lea kovi he
should'nt do it here ka na'e tonu ia ke ne fakakaukau
koeha e 'uhinga kuo ngaue'aki ai 'e 'Ungatea e lea
na'a ne ngaue 'aki. There must be a reason na'e
filifili lea ai e Tokonni pule'ako 'o QSC 'o ne toki
fiemalie ki he lea na'a ne ngaue 'aki pea ne toki
ngaue'aki. 'Oku fifili e kakai 'oe fonua ni WHY on
earth kuo toe fakaloloa ai 'e he pule'anga 'a 'enau
fakataputapui.
'Oku unpridictable e me'a lahi 'i Tonga ni even before
16/11 ko hai na'e tuui 'e hoko e me'a na'e hoko. Talu
e 'alu hake 'ae Dr. Feleti Sevele 'o Palemia mo 'ene
hanga 'o twist e me'a lahi pea ko hono iku'anga pe
'ena ko e tomu'a vela 'a Molisi pango ko e toe afuhia
ai e ngaahi pisinisi kehe. Pea kuo talu 'etau fononga
mai mei he ta'u kuo'osi me'a ni 'oku te'eki te nau
ma'u nai e message mei he kakai? 'Oku hange 'eni ia
'oku 'ikai ko ha me'a lahi e vela ia 'a Nuku'alofa pea
ko e 'aho ni hange koee 'oku 'ikai te nau pehe mai 'e
kinautolu koeha si'i kakai 'oe fonua pea nau nofonofo
mo manavasi'i na'a toe hoko ha me'a. 'Oku 'ikai te tau
faka'amu ke toe hoko ha me'a hotau fonua ni ka kou tui
'e ala hoko ha me'a he fa'ahinga hikifononga ko'eni
'oku tau fai ,;... teu toki hoko atu e?
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omai 'o hua'i mai homou ngaahi loto heni he'e uesia ai, pea 'e kovi ia
ki he mo'ui 'a e kakai kehe pea 'e iku ai ki he fefakalongolongo'aki
moe fe'ite'ita ni. Kae hu'i atu ki loto 'aki 'a e FOLOFOLA MO'UI ke
fakavaivai hifo e ngaahi loto kuo hako, pea mou toki omai leva 'o
hua'i mai kae lava ha tokoni atu ke solova e ngaahi palopalema ko ia.
Koe me'a koee ki he ma'ali hake pe ki'i me'a kuo lele homou suka ki
'olunga pea mou omai 'o blah blah mai heni, 'oku fakatu'utamaki
'aupito ia he 'e konaa ai e kaungafononga ia ...
koe kau talanoa atu pe!
sfonua
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kataki atu SFonua 'oku 'ikai tatau ho'o fo'i analogy mo 'eku foktu'u
talanoa. Fefee kapau ko e hu'i eni ki loto e Folofola? Ne u pehee 'e
au ko e public forum pehe ni ke tau nofo pee he kaveinga 'o e talanoa,
ka e 'oua te tau put words into peoples' mouth. ko e haa koaa hono
kovi ka fakalea ko e "puppet king"? 'oku ne uesia hotau Tonga? hotau
'ulungaanga fk-tonga? ko e haa ko aa 'oku ke manavahee ai hono holoki
pe mole hifo 'ete Tonga? Scared of loosing your tonganess? souke, ko e
tahi ia 'oku hu'a mai. ka ta teuteu taua keta poto he kakau 'oku pau!
Poasi Tei
tv <mani...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
talanoa. Fefee kapau ko e hu'i eni ki loto e Folofola? Ne u pehee 'e
au ko e public forum pehe ni ke tau nofo pee he kaveinga 'o e talanoa,
ka e 'oua te tau put words into peoples' mouth. ko e haa koaa hono
kovi ka fakalea ko e "puppet king"? 'oku ne uesia hotau Tonga? hotau
'ulungaanga fk-tonga? ko e haa ko aa 'oku ke manavahee ai hono holoki
pe mole hifo 'ete Tonga? Scared of loosing your tonganess? souke, ko e
tahi ia 'oku hu'a mai. ka ta teuteu taua keta poto he kakau 'oku pau!
Tei Ak
Koe ‘oho no ape.
You all seem to be straying from your original discussion and are all tangled up in the political correctness of speech according to our Tongan ‘ulungaanga.
I am surprised some of you are questioning what is our Tonganess, if you don’t know then it is sad at this age you are still confused about that, however, that is your own baggage to carry.
Poasi you suggest we change with the time? What has time got to do with polite articulate conversation. That is something time cannot force its change.
The western world apparently changes with the time, however, this means such vulgar words are expected to be acceptable in normal conversation. Such words I will not use in this forum or any polite society for civilized people. Is this the change you require? My apologies to you but such behaviour will never be acceptable to me or to many others whether you are or you are not pro monarchy or democratic or what ever. Such changes you require results in behaviour such as the burning we have witness in our kingdom of late(but that’s another story). Be careful of the changes you demand because it all has its own hangers on.
On the other hand converse properly on your topic and you won’t be sidetracked.
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:14:58 -0700
From: poas...@yahoo.com
Subject: [tasilisili] Re: Tonganow.......
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Lauleti Tu'inauvai
Mo u hokohoko atu pe fefakakoloa'aki kae fokotu'u atu 'a e ki'i tepile ko
'eni ke fakamokomoko mai ki ai 'a kinautolu 'oku 'afu'ia.
'Oku mahino foki 'oku takitaha pe fonua mo e matakali he'enau fa'ahinga
faka'apa'apa. 'Oku kehe fa'ahinga faka'apa'apa faka-Tonga ('o kau ai 'a e
pau ke faka'apa'apa 'a laauvale kia tu'i mo hou'eiki) mei he fa'ahinga
faka'apa'apa 'a e kakai Papalangi 'i 'Aositelelia ('o kau ai "mind your own
business" mo e "individual rights"), pehe pe ki he kau 'Apo (kau ai 'a e
fefaka'apa'apa'aki "as bros and sis only to the same clan/race") mo e ngaahi
matakali kehe.
Ka 'oku ou to'oa au he fa'ahinga faka'apa'apa ne tala 'e Sisu 'o ui 'e he
kau Kalisitiane ko e Lao Koula (Matiu 7:12) "Fai ki he tokotaha kehe 'a e
me'a 'oku ke loto ke fai kiate koe!"
Hange kiate au eni ka lea lelei mo fakamatapule mai ha taha kiate au pea ko
hoku lelei taha te u lea fakamatapule'aki kiate ia (tukukehe 'a e hua
felaafoaki ia). Ka kapekape mai ha taha, mahalo 'e mo'oni e lau 'a e kau
kavatonga "'Oku totonu pe ke mamahi e ngutu" (HFFT) tukukehe ka fulihi atu
'a e kou'ahe 'e taha mo vete atu mo e falani loto.
'Oku kei tokalingolingo ko aa 'a e faka'apa'apa mo e fefaka'apa'apa'aki he
nofo-'a-kainga faka-Tonga (Kalisitiane)?
'I he faka'apa'apa lahi ki he ma'olunga mo e ma'ulalo.
Lauleti
> >
>
ung...@qsc.to
>> kapau 'e 'ohovale pe kuo hu'i atu e fu'u lakanga na ka e to e 'oatu ha
>> fu'u lakanga faufaua 'o hange ko e Minisita Ako ( 'Oku malava pe he ko e
>> minisita ako ko e faifekau) 'E kei tatau ai pe ho'o tui fakapolitikale?
..........
Te'eki koaa ke mou ako ha me'a mei he fili Minisita 'o Feleti Sevele, mo
Peauafi Haukinima? Na'e lolotonga 'a e fa'u 'o e lipooti 'a e Tu'i
Pelehake kuo unga fonua, na'e approach 'a e fefine Tonga ki he lakanga ko
e "Minisita Ako", lolotonga pe ia 'oku kei 'i ai lelei 'a e Minisita Ako
lolotonga, pea na'a ne talange, "no, thank you", 'i he'ene tui ko e
fa'ahinga system 'oku 'i ai 'a Tonga ni, 'e 'ikai ke ne lava 'o fakahoko
'a hono fatongia ki he lelei taha ma'a e fonua. Fielau he ko e fefine!
(pea kapau na'e "io, ko e ha nai e si'i me'a na'e mei feinga'i ke 'ave ki
ai 'a e Minisita Ako lolotonga?").
Tau manatu ki he tu'unga matu'a na'e ui 'e Tupou I ki Palasi 'o ne fekau'i
ke nau omai ki hono siasi fo'ou mo Baker, pea longo fuoloa e tangata'eiki
pea ne tali atu, "tuku pe keu tangutu 'i he siasi ko 'eni, na'a mole 'a e
me'a 'oku ke faka'ofo'ofa'ia ai 'iate au". Ke pehee 'etau mateaki'i 'a e
mo'oni mo e totonu 'i he ngaahi feitu'u 'oku tau fetangutu'i ai!
ung...@qsc.to
> Ka 'oku ou to'oa au he fa'ahinga faka'apa'apa ne tala 'e Sisu 'o ui 'e he
> kau Kalisitiane ko e Lao Koula (Matiu 7:12) "Fai ki he tokotaha kehe 'a e
> me'a 'oku ke loto ke fai kiate koe!"
> Hange kiate au eni ka lea lelei mo fakamatapule mai ha taha kiate au pea
> ko
> hoku lelei taha te u lea fakamatapule'aki kiate ia (tukukehe 'a e hua
> felaafoaki ia).
Malo, Lauleti, e fakamaama mai ki he kau leipipolo!
Maile
sio atu ki he liliu lanu 'oku hoko 'i he tepile 'a e Pule'anga. Ko 'ene
fakakahoa pe ha taha kuo ha mai hono lanu totonu!
Pea kapau te tau tu'u ma'u he me'a 'oku tau tui ki ai 'o tatau ai pe, pea ko
e 'ofa fonua mo'oni ia. Hange ko e lea, "Tu'u ma'u SOT" pea "Tu'u me matu'u
ma'a Sisu ee" 'Ofa atu ki he famili.
Maile.
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From: <ung...@qsc.to>
To: <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
Sitiveni K Faupula
>From: "loke" <ke...@post.com>
>Reply-To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
>To: "Tasilisili-he-ngaluope" <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
>Subject: [tasilisili] Re: Tonganow.......
>Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:49:21 -0700
>Valu malo e fakatokanga, pea 'oku mau kau ai pe mo kimautolu he lave
>'i he fakatokanga ko ia, ko e kole mahu'inga aupito 'aupito, pea 'oku
>ou tui 'aupito ki he lelei 'e ma'u mei he kau taki te nau taa sipinga
>lelei 'i he lea mo e ngaue mo e mo'ui foki, kae 'ikai ko ha taha pe 'i
>he ngaahi me'a ni. 'E ikai kovi ki he ongo tu'ukimu'a ko eni 'o e
>SUTT, kia Lufe mo 'Ungatea, ke na kole fakamolemole mai 'i he
>fa'ahinga lea fa'iteliha na'a na fai. 'Oku mahu'inga pe ke mo anga
>fakatookilalo ka mo kole fakamolemole mai he ko e taa sipinga foki ki
>he kainanga 'o e siasi.
>
>malo,
>loke
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ke na kole fk-molemole he na'a na fai mai ha kovi!!! ko e anga ia 'etau
me'a. kapau 'oku 'ikai ke tali 'e he kau paipa 'ete lauu. fei mo 'ano avangi
'aki honau telinga ha ki'i fo'i kakala.
kou fanongo ne ki'i fk-kakala pe 'e sisu ia 'a e kau falesi 'aki e ngaahi
kakala ko e "ngatafekai, kau malualoi, kau lingitoto, etc". ko e ngaahi
kakala eni ia ne ongo kovi 'aupito ia 'i he fk-kaukau 'a e kakai na'a nau
fanongo ki ai. ka ko e anga foki ia 'etau me'a!!! hei'ilo!!!
skf
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ke...@post.com
> ke na kole fk-molemole he na'a na fai mai ha kovi!!! ko e anga ia 'etau
> me'a. kapau 'oku 'ikai ke tali 'e he kau paipa 'ete lauu. fei mo 'ano avangi
> 'aki honau telinga ha ki'i fo'i kakala.
>
> kou fanongo ne ki'i fk-kakala pe 'e sisu ia 'a e kau falesi 'aki e ngaahi
> kakala ko e "ngatafekai, kau malualoi, kau lingitoto, etc". ko e ngaahi
> kakala eni ia ne ongo kovi 'aupito ia 'i he fk-kaukau 'a e kakai na'a nau
> fanongo ki ai. ka ko e anga foki ia 'etau me'a!!! hei'ilo!!!
talaatu 'e hai ko 'etau me'a ia ke toki faikovi pe pea kole fakamolemole? ka tau ka fakahoha'asi ha taha 'oku tau kole fakamolemole, 'ine? ka tau ka toka'i ha molumalu ha taha 'oku tau kole fakamolemole, 'ikai ko ia? pea ka ko ha'atau faka'apa'apa'i ha taha pea 'oku tau kole fakamolemole, ue? Ko e fakahoha'asi, toka'i mo e faka'ap'apa'i ko ha kovi?
Ma'a lahi hono 'omai 'a Sisu 'o fakahoa ki he fakatalanoa ni, ka ko e fe 'a Sisu 'i he context 'o e talanoa ko eni? Ko Lufe mo 'Ungatea? ko hai 'a e falesi? Ko e tu'i mo e palemia?
ko ho'o mafai fakamaau leva mei fe?
ikilifi pope
skf:
> ke na kole fk-molemole he na'a na fai mai ha kovi!!! ko e anga ia 'etau
> me'a. kapau 'oku 'ikai ke tali 'e he kau paipa 'ete lauu. fei mo 'ano
> avangi
> 'aki honau telinga ha ki'i fo'i kakala.
>
> kou fanongo ne ki'i fk-kakala pe 'e sisu ia 'a e kau falesi 'aki e ngaahi
> kakala ko e "ngatafekai, kau malualoi, kau lingitoto, etc". ko e ngaahi
> kakala eni ia ne ongo kovi 'aupito ia 'i he fk-kaukau 'a e kakai na'a nau
> fanongo ki ai. ka ko e anga foki ia 'etau me'a!!! hei'ilo!!!
---
talaatu 'e hai ko 'etau me'a ia ke toki faikovi pe pea kole fakamolemole? ka
tau ka fakahoha'asi ha taha 'oku tau kole fakamolemole, 'ine? ka tau ka
toka'i ha molumalu ha taha 'oku tau kole fakamolemole, 'ikai ko ia? pea ka
ko ha'atau faka'apa'apa'i ha taha pea 'oku tau kole fakamolemole, ue? Ko e
fakahoha'asi, toka'i mo e faka'ap'apa'i ko ha kovi?
Ma'a lahi hono 'omai 'a Sisu 'o fakahoa ki he fakatalanoa ni, ka ko e fe 'a
Sisu 'i he context 'o e talanoa ko eni? Ko Lufe mo 'Ungatea? ko hai 'a e
falesi? Ko e tu'i mo e palemia?
ko ho'o mafai fakamaau leva mei fe?
loke
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loke kuo ki'i mahino e lahi e nofo fofo'anga 'a veni he kuo fk'au ke poto he
kaakaa...'isa he inu kavaa...kou manava si'i na'a 'ohovale pe kuo
lo'ilo'imata'ia mai 'a 'ungatea mo ha'ane fu'u fo'i fktaputapu...ha'ane kole
fkmolemole pee he 'ata'ataa loa...ha ha ...ko e faofao pee..
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seni taniela
ne'ine'i ke talamai "guard your heart..."
Ko e me'a fakatu'utamaki ko e mo'oni ta'e'iai ha
kelesi...pea toe fakatu'utamaki ke kelesi ta'e'iai ha
mo'oni...
vakai na'a tau hanga atu o tautolo pelepela--he te tau
pelepela kotoa pe ai.
fakatauange ke tau malu'i hotau taimi moe 'Eiki ko
hotau fatongia fika 'uluaki.
sami
fakatauange ke tau malu'i hotau taimi moe 'Eiki ko
hotau fatongia fika 'uluaki.
fefe nai 'emau ngaahi ngaue, koia 'oku ma'u mei ai 'e fo'i maa 'ae famili ?
koe fakalea atu , malo etau mo Feinga mei hena..
'ofa atu ,
sami.
Ikani Tolu
Malo e lelei, ko e ki'i fehu'i na'e 'iai nai mo ha
Tu'i na'e fakahingoa ko e fokisi?
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'ofa atu ,
sami.
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'oku 'iai e malie lahi he fehu'ii sami pea hangee ko e fkpo'uli 'a pita 'ia
sisu he toutou fehu'i ke fafanga 'ene fanga lami.....hangee kiate au 'oku mo
e fatongia ko ia sami he fika uluaki...pope
ke...@post.com
> io eee, to atu ho'o fu'u taufale 'au ee, he he he he he. 'e
> malie ha response 'a e kau tasilisili, 'oku ou laulaukonga
> fakalongolongo atu pe heni mo e malie'ia lahi he felafoaki. ka koe
> message faka'osi koe, pea u pehe ke u ki'i say hello atu...
faifekau malo e tau mo e ngaue. malo e fakalea mai. 'oku ou toe ki'i tu'u ke u toe ki'i sio lelei atu kia koe faifekau pe 'oku ke malimali hili ho'o ngaahi setesi 'i 'olunga, he 'oku hange 'oku lanu'i tukulalo...eh! Ko koe mo pope 'oku tokaange ha lilifa 'e too ki ai e kau fakapaheke 'i ho'omo ngaue eeee...eh!
malo pe ho'omou kei kataki faifekau, pea mou kataki pe ke lahi
ke...@post.com
> Veni
> Malo e lelei, ko e ki'i fehu'i na'e 'iai nai mo ha
> Tu'i na'e fakahingoa ko e fokisi?
---
Lufe kimu'a pea tau hiki mei he tepile ko eni, 'oleva ke fokotu'ut'u lelei e 'u sea pea tau toki hiki. na'e 'IKAI ha tu'i 'e "fakahingoa" pe ui ko ha fokisi.
malo e kataki
Sitiveni K Faupula
kuo 'ata homou poloka ki tu'a kae tuku aa e fa'a kaka 'aa.
'ofa moe lotu.
skf
>From: Ikani Tolu <ikani...@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
>To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [tasilisili] Re: Tonganow.......
>Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:06:42 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>Veni
>Malo e lelei, ko e ki'i fehu'i na'e 'iai nai mo ha
>Tu'i na'e fakahingoa ko e fokisi?
>
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kuo nau fk-papau ke muimui kia kalaisi pea mo kinautolu ko ia 'oku 'ikai
hoko 'a kalaisi ko e taki 'i he 'enau mo'ui ki he pule'anga tonga. 'ikai ko
ia pe, ka kuo nau ala atu eni 'o fk-ha 'enau ta'efiemalie ki he ngaue 'a e
pule'anga 'aki 'a e angatu'u.
'oku malie 'a e me'a ni he 'oku 'ikai ke 'i ai ha konga 'e taha 'i he
folofola 'e akonaki fk-patonu mai - tautefito ki he issue 'oe relationship
'a e kakai mo honau pule'anga - ki he kakai kuo nau tali 'a kalaisi kenau
tu'u hake 'o fk-ha honau loto, koe'uhi ko e kovi 'o ha pule'anga, 'aki 'a e
angatu'u. Ko e me'a pe 'oku akonaki fk-hangatonu mai ko e kataki. 'o tatau
ai pe pe 'oku ngaohi kovia kita 'e ha taha 'oku ma'olunga hake - including
the government - 'ia kita, .(vakai kia 1 pita 2 mo loma vahe 13 nai). ko
hono 'uhinga, he te tau HANGE ai ko kalaisi 'o 'ukuma pe. pea ko e taha,
'oku toki tala 'etau kataki he hoko mai 'a e kovi. 'oku 'ikai tala pea ha 'a
kataki ia he taimi ko ee 'oku 'alomalie ai e vaha fononga 'o e mo'ui.
ko e anga pe lau...
skf
Sisilia Thomas
Sisilia Thomas
Lufe:
> Veni
> Malo e lelei, ko e ki'i fehu'i na'e 'iai nai mo ha
> Tu'i na'e fakahingoa ko e fokisi?
---
Loke:
>Lufe kimu'a pea tau hiki mei he tepile ko eni, 'oleva >ke fokotu'ut'u lelei e 'u sea pea tau toki hiki. na'e >'IKAI ha tu'i 'e "fakahingoa" pe ui ko ha fokisi.
----Lufe & Loke, hangee kiate au na'e ui 'e Sisu 'a Helota ko e fokisi [Luke 13:32]; pea 'i ai mo e lau 'a 'Isikeli kau ki he kau palofita na'a nau hangee ha fanga fokisi! ['Isikeli 13:4]. Ka 'oku ou tui 'e toe kehe ange foki 'a e ngaue'aki e fo'i lea ni ["fokisi'] 'i homou context, Lufe. Ko e anga pe 'o e kauitalanoa mei he lelue [Sisilia].
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> Lufe & Loke, hangee kiate au na'e ui 'e Sisu 'a Helota ko e
> fokisi [Luke 13:32]; pea 'i ai mo e lau 'a 'Isikeli kau ki he kau
> palofita na'a nau hangee ha fanga fokisi! ['Isikeli 13:4]. Ka 'oku
> ou tui 'e toe kehe ange foki 'a e ngaue'aki e fo'i lea ni
> ["fokisi'] 'i homou context, Lufe. Ko e anga pe 'o e kauitalanoa
> mei he lelue [Sisilia].
---
mahalo pe na'a ofi ange ha'atau pehe ko e helota ko ia ko e real "puppet" ia, 'ikai ko ha "puppet" king ka ko e "puppet prince" (tetrarch--nopele ma'u tofi'a nai 'i hono fakahoa ki Tonga pe ko ha toe fakalea ange)
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--- ikilifi pope <iki....@tonganyouth.org.nz> wrote:
'oku 'iai e malie lahi he fehu'ii sami pea hangee ko
> e fkpo'uli 'a pita 'ia
> sisu he toutou fehu'i ke fafanga 'ene fanga
> lami.....hangee kiate au 'oku mo
> e fatongia ko ia sami he fika uluaki...pope
> -----------------------------------------------
> fefe nai 'emau ngaahi ngaue, koia 'oku ma'u mei ai
> 'e fo'i maa 'ae famili ?
>
> koe fakalea atu , malo etau mo Feinga mei hena..
>
> 'ofa atu ,
> sami.
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Malo Sami mo Pope
Manatu'i na'e 'ikai pehee atu 'a Sisu..Pita teke
fafanga 'eku fangalami?? Na'a ne pehee atu: 'Oku ke
'ofa 'iate au?
Malava pe ke te fafanga lami mo 'ofa he fanga lamii
lahi ange 'ia Sisu..mo 'afunngi'aki ko e tama fafanga
lami kita a Sisu ta'e'ofa 'ia Sisu ...me'a ia 'oku
fa'a lo'oa ai e fanga lamii.......ka 'oku ta'emalava
ke te 'ofa 'ia Sisu ta'efafanga 'ene fanga lamii.
Ko hotau taimi fakafo'ituitui mo e 'Otua ko e taimi
mahu'inga taha ia kuopau ke tau malu'i. Kapau 'oku
tau lava 'aa houa 3 he kumete kava...lava nai ke tau
foaki houa e taha ki he lotu lilo pea mo e folofola.
'ikai ko e teu malanga pe tasilisili..etc Kapau 'oku
tau lotu miniti 10 mo fakakupukupu he'etau malanga
sapate...'oku tau lotu miniti 20 nai mo fakakupukupu
he'etau tokotahaa?
Tau fanongo ki he hanu he'ikai ke fanongo e kau taki
politikale ki he le'ofakapalofita 'a e siasii. Na'a
'oku tau hoha'a ki he le'o fakapalofita kae 'ikai ke
tau tokanga ki he mo'ui fakapalofita.
'oku tau'ita nai ko e 'ikai ke nau(kau taki politiki)
fiefanongo ki he 'Otua pe ko 'etau 'ita he'ikai ke nau
fanongo ki hotau le'oo mo enau moloki hotau
kitaa(ego)?
ko netane ne 'ikai hangatonu pee 'o valoki 'a
tevita--he used stories...he was tactful...before he
"shot" King David. There was a complete humility and
yet he was bold as a lion. Pea ko 'ene mo'ui--his
prophetic life sealed his prophetic voice--So many
spiritual leaders talked down the political
leaders...pea 'ange'ange 'afungi 'aee 'i hee...
Ko e taimi fakafo'ituitui mo e 'Otua koe feohi fika
'uluaki ia...toki fika ua mai 'a hoa..sami e!!fika
tolu mai 'a fofo'anga pea toki faa mai e ngauee!!lol!
If we are too busy for God...or think we know Him
enough then something wrong with our heart's
condition.
have blessed weekend
'ofa atu
seni
sami
Seni::
Ko e taimi fakafo'ituitui mo e 'Otua koe feohi fika
'uluaki ia...toki fika ua mai 'a hoa..sami e!!fika
tolu mai 'a fofo'anga pea toki faa mai e ngauee!!lol!
maalo Seni e fakamaama mai, he koho'o talanoa kihe "LOTU" mo'eku tauhi 'ae
"LOTU' 'oku fetomokaki, pea 'oku hange ai pe foki 'oku Fika 1 'ae Ngaue ia
," KOE 'AA PE KOEE HE PONGIPONGI 'O " TEUTEU PEA LELE 'OSI KIHE NGAUE ", ka
ko ho'o lave koee kihe "tuku-hato-taimi-kete Lotu", koe mo'oni e mo'oni 'ae
Fetomokaki ai..
'OKU toki fa'a manatu'I pe foki e loTu ia , he taimi Fakatu'utamaki, kae
'ikai kete " ako'i-kita-kete tauhi mo fai kiai" [lotu]..
Ka 'oku ke 'ilo Seni, koe me'a malie ia, he 'oku ou toki Fakatokanga'I hake
pe 'e au, ia, Ko au pe ia 'oku fika 1, 'aki 'e Ngaue... Kohoku Hoa 'oku ia
'oku ne fika 1 'aki 'e ia AU, ( oua teke kata koe Pope, he KOE Konga pe ia
'oe fuakava ) , pea koe Fofo'anga ia ko'ena fika 1 , KOE LOTU ..
Kae kehe malo e potalanoa,,,,,,,,
'ofa atu kihe teu 'oe faka'osinga 'oe Uike..
Sami.
loke
> Tau fanongo ki he hanu he'ikai ke fanongo e kau taki
> politikale ki he le'ofakapalofita 'a e siasii. Na'a
> 'oku tau hoha'a ki he le'o fakapalofita kae 'ikai ke
> tau tokanga ki he mo'ui fakapalofita.
> 'oku tau'ita nai ko e 'ikai ke nau(kau taki politiki)
> fiefanongo ki he 'Otua pe ko 'etau 'ita he'ikai ke nau
> fanongo ki hotau le'oo mo enau moloki hotau
> kitaa(ego)?
---
tokoni lahi 'aupito ki he fakaefuefu 'oku fai seni.
malo
loke
> 'oku malie 'a e me'a ni he 'oku 'ikai ke 'i ai ha konga 'e taha 'i he
> folofola 'e akonaki fk-patonu mai - tautefito ki he issue 'oe relationship
> 'a e kakai mo honau pule'anga - ki he kakai kuo nau tali 'a kalaisi kenau
> tu'u hake 'o fk-ha honau loto, koe'uhi ko e kovi 'o ha pule'anga, 'aki 'a e
> angatu'u. Ko e me'a pe 'oku akonaki fk-hangatonu mai ko e kataki. 'o tatau
> ai pe pe 'oku ngaohi kovia kita 'e ha taha 'oku ma'olunga hake - including
> the government - 'ia kita,
---
malo e fakalotolahi veni
Sitiveni K Faupula
fk-tokanga'i ko e ngaahi confrontation 'a sisu ia moe kau paipa ne
makatu'unga ia 'i he 'enau reject ia ko e kalaisi, pe misaia.
what we must also consider is that although christ came in a time that roman
power oppressed jews left and right, he never encouraged any political
uprise what so ever. god in his own good time took down the roman empire. ko
e me'a ko ee 'oku ako'i kitautolu ki ai ketau sio fk-mama'o ki he pale 'oku
tali mai mo hotau 'eiki. pea 'oku fai e fou atu ki ai 'i he mamahi lahi moe
kataki.
mahalo ko e taimi ko ee 'oku taau ai ketau angatu'u ki he pule'anga ko e
taimi ko ee 'oku nau fk-tangata'i ai e lotu. but passively.
ko e lau pe foki... .
>From: Lousiale Uasike <ikunam...@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
>To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [tasilisili] Re: Tonganow.......
>Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:07:04 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Faka'ofo'ofa 'a e anga ho'o lau Sitiveni pea ko e fakalotolahi ai pe ki he
>muimui 'oku tau fai - 'uma'a hono tokanga'i e natula 'o e hala fononga 'oku
>fai ai 'a e muimui pea mo e anga 'o e fononga'ia e hala fononga ko ia. Pea
>neongo 'a e kataki mo 'ukuma si'otau Takimu'a he ngaahi ngaohikovia
>kehekehe - ka na'e 'ikai tuku ai 'ene fakamangamanga e kau taki 'aki 'ene
>ngaahi faiako mo akonaki. Tukukehe ange hono fakamangamanga 'e he kau
>tutututu 'a e mo'ui e kakai e fonua pea mo hono kau taki - pea 'oku 'ikai
>te tau tali 'a e founga ko ia - ka 'e tokoni ai pe foki hano vakai'i 'a e
>tu'unga kuo ongo'i ai 'e he kakai 'oku ngaohikovia kinautolu - 'uma'a foki
>hano ue'i kitautolu ke tokanga'i e ngaahi fekau'aki kehekehe 'oku fakalahi
>ki he ngaohikovia - pe ko e mo'ui mo e ngaue pe ia 'a e kakai 'oku tu'unga
>mei ai 'a e ngaohikovia - ko e kau'italanoa ai pe foki ki ho'o lau. mo e
>lotu, lou.
>
>
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Sitiveni K Faupula
>Reply-To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
>To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [tasilisili] Re: Tonganow.......
>Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:07:04 -0700 (PDT)
>
'oku ngaohikovia kinautolu -'uma'a foki hano ue'i kitautolu ke tokanga'i e
ngaahi fekau'aki kehekehe 'oku fakalahi ki he ngaohikovia - pe ko e mo'ui mo
e ngaue pe ia 'a e kakai 'oku tu'unga mei ai 'a e ngaohikovia - ko e
kau'italanoa ai pe foki ki ho'o lau. mo e lotu, lou.
malo lou pea 'oku ou poupou atu ki ho lave 'i 'olunga.
skf
>
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--- d levi <batn...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> Koe taha foki, 'oku mahino lelei mai meihe toe
> fakaloolooa atu 'a e tapu 'a e 'message' 'a e
> pule'anga that they are under control and the
> country is led by their decisions, regardless.....We
> are not led by 'Akilisi Pohiva and his troop....
==================================================
Poupou atu pe!!
'Oku 'ikai foki totonu ke tataki kitautolu 'e he
pule'anga(D. To'a and his army). Pea 'oku 'ikai
ha'atau(church) totonu ke tau fakafakafekake'i ki he
pule'anga as an enemy...pe tu'u 'i 'olunga he
pule'angaa 'o hangee 'oku tau 'i 'olunga 'iate
kinautolu. Pea 'oku 'ikai ha totonu 'a e pule'anga ke
ne moloki e Siasias if the church is a property of the
govt. They are "two-fold rule" of God and they should
dance together. Ka 'oku hangee ko e tau'olunga
salsa...'oku ai pee taimi ke na takitaha 'alu 'i hono
hala pea ai pe taimi ke na merge.
We(church) serve and represent a greater King and a
greater Kingdom but we are not the Kingdom. So we have
to becareful of playing as if we are the Kingdom by
trying to force our way in to politics. Let "Ceasar"
decides how to run his business. Let God's
representatives mind their own business. But how can
we influence ceasar?
Our first service is to be models of God's Kingdom.
'Oku mahu'iga kimu'a ke tau lea fakapalofita ki he
pule'anga 'oku 'ata atu mei hotau "pule'anga"(siasi)
'ae justice, integrity and democracy etc that we
claim to represent. We can influence "ceasar" by
modelling, persuasion, and logical presentation of the
transcendal truths we are called to uphold. But we are
never called to force our "truths" down the throats of
the govt.
Ko e sio koee 'a e motu'a politiki ki he siasi oku ne
matamata lelei'ia nai he founga taki 'a e taki
fakalaumaliee? Feefee liliu tangata 'a e Siasi ki
hono kau memipaa? Feefee 'a e temokalati 'i he
Siasi?? Na'a 'oku tau temo pee he superficial level
ka koe fakalele faka'aho e Siasii 'oku monarchial or
dictatorial. No wonder Jesus seems to so indifferent
to the politics of his day. He knows that should the
church be given the power to run the govt. both will
perish...history testifies to that.
we have to becareful when we try to follow Akilisi's
definition of democracy cos democracy needs some
boundaries where secularism and religion can dance
together. 'Oku fele 'a e ngaahi fonua temo..'oku take
over 'e he secularism pea ni'ihi take over 'e ha
fa'ahinga tui fakalotu pea ko hono ola ko e fakaoli.
Temo Isipite pe Pakisitani..is there freedom of
religion?? feefee temo amelika--they reckon that the
church has allowed secularism to take over and as a
result--there is no freedom for Christianity in the
public square except for atheism which is another
religion with self as its god. pea ko hono ola 'oku
faka'ataa 'ehe secularism 'a e hinituu (yoga) ke huu
mai ki he educational institutions kae 'aka e lotu
kalisitiane.
ngataa a hee 'ofa atu
Piukala
-----Original Message-----
From: tasil...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tasil...@googlegroups.com]
On
Tuku hotau palepale ke lilingi ai hotau ngahai loto
(whatever it's in it), ka e 'oua 'e vave kole fakamolemole mo e
fakatupu fakalongolongo.
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Ko e lau fakatupu fakakaukau ia kiate au , pea 'oku ngali mo'oni,
Ka 'oku fe'unga pe ke kei fai akonaki 'a Tau'atevalu, 'i hono fatongia
Faka-tamai pe kiate kitautolu he paenga ni.
Mei he palepale lingiloto ai pe.
Sepesi.
sio...@sbcglobal.net
Valu malo e fakatokanga, pea 'oku mau kau ai pe mo kimautolu he lave
'i he fakatokanga ko ia, ko e kole mahu'inga aupito 'aupito, pea 'oku
ou tui 'aupito ki he lelei 'e ma'u mei he kau taki te nau taa sipinga
lelei 'i he lea mo e ngaue mo e mo'ui foki, kae 'ikai ko ha taha pe 'i
he ngaahi me'a ni. 'E ikai kovi ki he ongo tu'ukimu'a ko eni 'o e
SUTT, kia Lufe mo 'Ungatea, ke na kole fakamolemole mai 'i he
fa'ahinga lea fa'iteliha na'a na fai. 'Oku mahu'inga pe ke mo anga
fakatookilalo ka mo kole fakamolemole mai he ko e taa sipinga foki ki
he kainanga 'o e siasi.
malo,
loke
sio...@sbcglobal.net
From: "Tuifua, Talanoa" <Talanoa...@CityofPaloAlto.org>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 3:43:14 PM
Subject: [tasilisili] Re: Tonganow.......
'e he tika.....'ofa atu.
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Tuifua, Talanoa
Na’e ‘ikai te u ‘ilo ‘e au ‘a e Kuka……..koe valu maka pe na’e ‘omai ki homau ‘api……
From: tasil...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tasil...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sio...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 2:08
AM
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [tasilisili] Re:
Tonganow.......
----- Original Message ----
Kolopeaua Tonga
>Na'e ikai te u ilo e au a e Kuka.....koe valu maka pe na'e 'omai ki homau
>'api......
............................................................................................
Tuifua,
Tokanga'i na'a hu ha fo'i niumotu'u ki he valu maka kae change 'o valu vai.
Tuku ho'o lau kuka na'a fihia ai ha ni'ihi ho tau palepale. ko e ki'i
fakaninimo atu pe.
'Ofa atu,
kolo
>
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> Mou kataki kau tangata takitaha lea pe ho'omou
> me'akai ifo atu eeee ...... na'a 'oku 'iai ha
> kautama mei Puke mo Fatai heni he koe kuka 'oku ma'u
> atu pe honau feitu'u.
>
>
>
> Kolopeaua Tonga <kolope...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> >Na'e ikai te u ilo e au a e Kuka.....koe valu maka
> pe na'e 'omai ki homau
> >'api......
>
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> Tuifua,
>
> Tokanga'i na'a hu ha fo'i niumotu'u ki he valu maka
> kae change 'o valu vai.
> Tuku ho'o lau kuka na'a fihia ai ha ni'ihi ho tau
> palepale. ko e ki'i
> fakaninimo atu pe.
>
> 'Ofa atu,
> kolo
> >
>
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