Kinetic Material

[Anais Wachowski]

Hasanyone noticed that after latest upgrade you can not return material to stock from job if run qty meets completed qty. It now says that there are no qty on wip. Usuly we have been returning paint powder when we had powder savings during part grouping on painting line.

I allso rised question to epicor if any logic has changed, still no answer. We are using backfslush but in case if we had savings we return materials back. But from this morning I get complains from users that they can not return it back any more

Response from Epicor - Ok, this is what is happening, in 2022.2.3 a new feature was added called WIP PCID, and this feature affects the also regular WIP, this is happening because you completed the operation linked to the material, so that material is no longer available, it has been consumed, so there is nothing else left to return

That sounds like a nonsence. So if I need mtl for job like 100pcs, but just in case I will issue 120pcs before production if some of mtl would be damaged or in some reason some additional would be needed, and lets say production actuay used 105pcs, excess of 15pcs would be consumed also even if they were not.

correct. Once the operation is complete it is clearing WIP (which it had prior to the upgrade but still allowed a return) and assumes all material was consumed. We have only used Epicor since 2020 but this has always worked for us prior to this upgrade.

I am placing this case under the status of Suggested Resolution, pending its verification. This status will give you 4 weeks to test and confirm that everything is correct.

If all good, please do not hesitate to close this case. If you encounter any issue or if you have any questions, feel free to place a comment in this case, so it will get re-activated.

In this case, it will not be fixed as is it not considered a bug but an intended change. It was a change in functionality that took place with the new update, meaning this is how the application now works.

I cannot see it yet as must not be accepted but will keep an eye on it. Joshua, does Job Receipt to Salvage remove the quantity and cost from your job? I am told it does, but I am not experiencing that. For now I am using Quantity Adjust and Job Adjustment. Thank you.

While there is no response to this ticket I did investigation, and seems some other companies has the same. Found ref ticket CS0003332256. So this is related with PCID enhancement which affects all wip. As from this ref CS0003332256 I understand that epicor dont want to accept this as bug, but from my side I would stand for it as a bug, let me simulate few situations.

If you are producing 100pcs of goods and in best scenario you need 1pcs spacer for calibration for each good, but when we speak about calibration than you can not say that it is a fixed qty, because in some cases you will be needed 2 or even 3 spacers per one good. So what you do, in that case you issue like 150pcs spacers before production and when production finished and you have the fact of usage, you return what left unused back to the stock, like 23pcs of spacers.

Lets say you use an oil paste from a bucket, you can never be such precise to predict how much of paste will be used, so you issue hole bucket, and after production place the bucket on scale and you return to stock weight which is displayed on the scale.

I do not know if salvage would be useful in this case, I think salvage has to be set on on BOM level, or you can return without that? As for me now Return Material function are useless. What if someone made a mistake by manually issuing mtl or I just need to return them back as excess.

I have an issue that I thought someone else may have came across prior to creating a ticket with Epicor.

I have a user who regularly issues material on the smart client MES shop floor.

We are trying to move to using the web browser and he can log his activity fine but can NOT issue material. He keeps getting access denied.

No idea why he is allowed on smart client and denined on web?

Anyone have this issue?

Assembly item. Has sub assemblies, each with a part (which is an assembly with a raw material part, quantity and method). When I generate suggestions and new PO suggestions all I get are top level items. No raw material from any of the sub assembly items. Why? Extremely complicated and frustrating just to create a bom to order materials lol. I have yet another job that is now already late because I cannot order material.

The top level parts for the assembly that are not manufactured such as hardware etc all show up on the po suggestions report, none of the raw material items above in the sub assembly weldments show up.

throw the dates up for the job, like the job start date, the operation start date for whcih the materials will be used and then throw up your Generate PO suggestions criteria that you are running it with.

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I am trying to figure out why the big gap between the operations. If I reschedule the job and check mark the override material constraints then the job finishes on July 6 and there are no gaps between the stencil operations.

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Material Constraint means that the scheduling engine will not schedule the operation to start until all material is available (or projected to be available). Something is causing the system to think that the stencil is not available until the 23rd. Do you have a lead time on the Part Class?

The Quantity Bearing checkbox (selected by default) means that Epicor is keeping track of inventory quantity. Uncheck the checkbox and Epicor does NOT keep track of inventory quantity (after any transaction, the on-hand value is reset to zero).

The Non Stock checkbox (unselected by default) means that Epicor assumes you want to consume existing inventory before buying/making more. Check the checkbox and Epicor will create buy/make suggestions on every demand for the part, regardless of existing inventory.

This problem is not just a one time issue for us. We have parts that the company would like to have on hand but not inventory. An example of these parts would be tooling or stencils (just like discussed above). In order to stop these parts from being inventoried we have use two approaches. One approach is to mark them not quantity bearing. They always have a 0 quantity and therefore do not get inventoried. We have also marked them as non-stock and only inventory stock items. But I now know that marking them non-stock will result in a Purchase Direct, add lead time to the parts, and push out the schedule.

The best way to handle tooling and stencils is to create them as Resources. When you are building your MOM, you can add it as a resource on the operation. If you schedule, you will also know when they are being used and can handle conflicts.

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Hi, I was wondering if anyone has any experience returning material back to stock that was issued to the job using the Purchase Direct method. The job is still open. The Invoice for the material has been paid.

Thank you

Silvia

We are looking for a way to capture the Missing material within Epicor (UD Table/Form), but I want the data entry to be validated by the user being able to lookup the Assembly and related JobNum, then lookup the PartNum, automatically populate the primary warehouse and bin as the From WarehouseCode and FromBinNum. Ideally, the result is a table which is 90% DMT ready.

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