从国内买书

[Shiqi Yang]

joyo UPS运费封顶230RMB/order

我刚试过，两天寄到，可以用信用卡支付，服务还不错。

大家可以考虑团购来分摊运费

酱紫

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Sherman Yang

[Jiqing Tang]

可以直接去数源书店啊

2008/11/9 Shiqi Yang <sherma...@gmail.com>:

[Shiqi Yang]

数源有些书没有卖。。。

2008/11/9 Jiqing Tang <jiqin...@gmail.com>:

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Sherman Yang

[Shiqi Yang]

而且ms很多原价
joyo上ms打折很多。。。

2008/11/9 Shiqi Yang <sherma...@gmail.com>:

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Sherman Yang

[Xinlai Ni]

我回国买了两千多块钱的书，回来准备一个新书架了。

2008/11/9 Shiqi Yang <sherma...@gmail.com>

[Tian Wang]

上次不知道那里听说说书原是黑社会洗钱的？

2008/11/9 Jiqing Tang <jiqin...@gmail.com>

[Shiqi Yang]

e.g.：

追风筝的人 书原： $8.60 joyo: ￥16.8
一本就差了快40RMB，而且这还不算tax
买7,8本书一次UPS运费就差出来了
集体团购的话那运费就更少。。。

2008/11/9 Shiqi Yang <sherma...@gmail.com>:

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Sherman Yang

[Dan Rao]

我也觉得这是个好主意

其实我注意到Google的Beijing 和 Mountain View 两处经常有人来往；由于是商业旅行，
一般行李都较少。If only we can monetize this kind of traffic...

2008/11/9 Shiqi Yang <sherma...@gmail.com>:

[Shiqi Yang]

then?.......this post will go to bayfubai-business?

haha

2008/11/9 Dan Rao <dan.aud...@gmail.com>:

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Sherman Yang

[Ping Wu]

U.S. to CN: Milk powder
CN to U.S.: Cheap books.

both high margin business => win-win

2008/11/9 Dan Rao <dan.aud...@gmail.com>

[Hui Tan (檀慧)]

I bought many books from amazon.cn (joyo) a week earlier, but I used
the slower shipping, which is 107 Yuan. It was shipped from HongKong
and will take 10-20 days. So my package is not here yet.

I asked around for 团购 books but seems that people I asked were not
interested in buying physical books, so didn't successfully convince
any one to buy with me. Maybe had I asked here I would get more
interest, or maybe not, because it seems that people I asked do not
care too much about the shipping.

About google 商业旅行, I am afraid that there are fewer people traveling
these days. Also because books tend to be heavy, it may not worth the
trouble if the books are not in urgent need.

[Dan Rao]

You may ask around in Taotie reading. I am sure there are people
interested in physical books.

I was just kidding about monetizing the airplane-carried business
traffic between Mountain View and Beijing :)

2008/11/10 Hui Tan (檀慧) <tan...@gmail.com>:

[Zhiwei Cen]

So they require the credit card to be "Verified by Visa" or have a
MasterCard "SecureCode"? My Citi master card does not seem to support
that. Any recommendations on good and safe credit cards to use?

Zhiwei

2008/11/10 Hui Tan (檀慧) <tan...@gmail.com>:
>

[Shiqi Yang]

I used AMEX and it went thru.
I've heard AMEX has the best charge back policy so it is very easy to ask money back if there are problems.
Mastercard is pretty good as well, while discover is the worst...
But I never tried any of them personally.

2008/11/10 Zhiwei Cen <cenz...@gmail.com>

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Sherman Yang

[Hui Tan (檀慧)]

I think the "secure code" means the last 3 digits on the back of your
card.
This is something that's used commonly even in the US for security
reasons.

[Shiqi Yang]

neither Mastercard(CITI) nor VISA(Amazon Card from Chase) works for me on joyo
tried couple of times and finally I switched to AMEX, which went thru.

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Sherman Yang

[Hui Tan (檀慧)]

I used visa and it was fine.

The only thing I was not sure about is how FAST it really is.
So did it really take only 2 days to ship to you for the 260Yuan fast
one?

[Shiqi Yang]

depends how fast they prepare the package
their estimation is pretty conservative.
in my case, it shows in my order that the expected shipping date is 10/27 and delivery date is 10/30
and it actually got split into two packages by system (with no extra charge)
one of them shipped 10/20 and delivered 10/22
the other one shipped 10/27 and delivered 10/29

so from my experience I guess the answer to your question is: YES....

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Sherman Yang

[Zhiwei Cen]

2008/11/10 Hui Tan (檀慧) <tan...@gmail.com>:
>

> I think the "secure code" means the last 3 digits on the back of your
> card.
> This is something that's used commonly even in the US for security
> reasons.

SecureCode (one word) is a password in addition to the CSC code, which
is only supported by some MasterCards. My Citi one does not support
that. It seems PayEase starts to support cards without that code? In
Visa the same thing is called "verified by Visa", which is a password
in addition to the card number and the CSC code. When you paid by
Visa, did they ask you for such a password?

[Hui Tan (檀慧)]

I see, so it's from get shipped to get delivered, not from placing
order to get delivered.

[Hui Tan (檀慧)]

On Nov 10, 3:50 pm, "Zhiwei Cen" <cenzhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2008/11/10 Hui Tan (檀慧) <tan...@gmail.com>:
>
> > I think the "secure code" means the last 3 digits on the back of your
> > card.
> > This is something that's used commonly even in the US for security
> > reasons.
>
> SecureCode (one word) is a password in addition to the CSC code, which
> is only supported by some MasterCards. My Citi one does not support
> that. It seems PayEase starts to support cards without that code? In
> Visa the same thing is called "verified by Visa", which is a password
> in addition to the card number and the CSC code. When you paid by
> Visa, did they ask you for such a password?

No. I didn't notice any unusual.

[Shiqi Yang]

exactly, and I think it is the case here in US as well.
and that's why they give you the estimation...

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Sherman Yang

[Tian Wang]

Rules of thumb while shopping online in China:
1. Use AmericanExpress
2. Use IE

2008/11/10 Shiqi Yang <sherma...@gmail.com>

[Dan Rao]

I found out you can not shop in Taobao or pay with CCBC debit card without IE

2008/11/10 Tian Wang <wangt...@gmail.com>:

[Shiqi Yang]

Taobao sucks, use ebay then :))

2008/11/10 Dan Rao <dan.aud...@gmail.com>

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Sherman Yang

[Dan Rao]

Ebay has a bug, I lost my bid even I got up 8 AM in the morning :(((

On Nov 10, 5:18 pm, "Shiqi Yang" <sherman.y...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Taobao sucks, use ebay then :))
>

> 2008/11/10 Dan Rao <dan.audrey....@gmail.com>

>
>
>
> > I found out you can not shop in Taobao or pay with CCBC debit card without
> > IE
>

> > 2008/11/10 Tian Wang <wangtian...@gmail.com>:

> > > Rules of thumb while shopping online in China:
> > > 1. Use AmericanExpress
> > > 2. Use IE
>

> > > 2008/11/10 Shiqi Yang <sherman.y...@gmail.com>

[Dan Rao]

Amazon.cn has the same, may be 260RMB top per order?

Let's make a reading list for 2009 and combine the shipping
together :)

[Shiqi Yang]

amazon.cn == joyo......

2008/11/30 Dan Rao <dan.aud...@gmail.com>

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Sherman Yang

[Shiqi Yang]

it is not a bug, it is a feature...

2008/11/30 Dan Rao <dan.aud...@gmail.com>

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Sherman Yang

[Zhimin He]

use proxy bidding and you don't need to get up early.
zhimin

2008/11/30 Dan Rao <dan.aud...@gmail.com>:

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Best

Zhimin He
Software Engineer
(650) 214-2799

[Shiqi Yang]

reading list进行如何？
我有书要加入。。。

2008/11/30 Dan Rao <dan.aud...@gmail.com>

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Sherman Yang

[Dan Rao]

好啊，加吧！

我的还正在酝酿之中！

2008/12/7 Shiqi Yang <sherma...@gmail.com>:

[Dan Rao]

我近期要在卓越买一批书运过来，如果有人想买书的话，可以一起下单，团购分摊运费。我查过了，卓越每一单1200人民币封顶。

On Dec 7 2008, 11:13 pm, "Dan Rao" <dan.audrey....@gmail.com> wrote:
> 好啊，加吧！
>
> 我的还正在酝酿之中！
>

> 2008/12/7 Shiqi Yang <sherman.y...@gmail.com>:
>
> > reading list进行如何？
> > 我有书要加入。。。
>
> > 2008/11/30 Dan Rao <dan.audrey....@gmail.com>

[Zhimin He]

运费封顶还是书价封顶？
Zhimin

2009/1/29 Dan Rao <dan.aud...@gmail.com>:

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[Dan Rao]

原来是我说错了，呵呵，1200书价封顶；每一单空运美国230元，要是海运大概一半的样子吧，150不到。

我现在已经看好了大约800元的书，再磨蹭一段时间，就不需要团购了，卡卡

2009/1/29 Zhimin He <zhim...@gmail.com>: