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Jason E Pierce

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Jan 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/6/98
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John Paul Fullerton (j-ful...@tamu.edu) sez:
=> "As long as there has been a state-funded institution of higher
=> education in Texas, there's been The Texas A&M University System.

Ahh, interesting double meaning here.

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John Paul Fullerton

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Jan 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/6/98
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cme...@philebus.tamu.edu (Chris Menzel) wrote:

John Paul Fullerton (j-ful...@tamu.edu) wrote:
: Good question. After searching A&M's site for a while, I couldn't find
: the full name (or the history of the University).

> Let's see, you say you *couldn't* find the full name?

Yes, on www.tamu.edu, I didn't find what the A and M meant. When
prompted in dialogue, I'd consider the acknowledgement of "Texas A&M
University" as the "full name" to be forthcoming :)

> BTW, I believe the university followed NCR's lead a few years back and
> declared that "A&M" no longer officially stands for anything

Yes. There is certainly a benefit in making the present state of
things evident (and I had not done so).

> (which isn't to say that A&M doesn't stand for anything -- let's not
> confuse use and mention here), as the original meaning is now no
> longer accurate.

Yes (I agree) here as well. I thought, after writing the note, that
while my answer covered the A and M, it didn't say much (except
insofar as Agricultural and Mechanical is still relevant) about the
(possible) implied question of what kind of University is it and what
is the academic emphasis?

To go even one farther, still in keeping with the direction of your
note, and with a nod to another note about possible double meanings,
my "Good question" sounded to me after posting it as partly
condescending. --> Dumb A&M site, doesn't even say what A&M means.
That, of course, is not true at all. Dumb doesn't apply. And
(possible) oversight is apparently a fact of human focus and
perception. Nevertheless, it did seem of benefit for the A&M site to
provide the University's history more prominently, and I hoped that
another at the appropriate level could make use of the notion.

Have a nice day
John Paul Fullerton
j-ful...@tamu.edu

Marilyn Hughbanks

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Jan 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/6/98
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John Paul Fullerton wrote:

>
> j-ful...@tamu.edu (John Paul Fullerton) wrote:
>
> cme...@philebus.tamu.edu (Chris Menzel) wrote:
>
> John Paul Fullerton (j-ful...@tamu.edu) wrote:
> : Good question. After searching A&M's site for a while, I couldn't find
> : the full name (or the history of the University).
>
> > Let's see, you say you *couldn't* find the full name?
>
> Hmm. Maybe the emphasis on 'couldn't' has to do with "couldn't find"
> instead of my first take "couldn't find the full name" and the
> contradiction of me having found what I said I couldn't find. Maybe I
> should add the following. (Added at the last of my note - maybe your
> note was quite evident in meaning and, because I was thinking of the
> A&M does not now = "Agricultural and Mechanical" part, I took the
> meaning to have to do with that, so that I took the negative in
> couldn't as having to do with "Agricultural and Mechanical" not really
> being the full name. That's so 'reasonable' (to me - the observation
> and explanation of my error) that it prompts fear. What other calm
> words could so easily be misunderstood? Wow (really). Yesterday, I was
> marvelling at how 16 days away from work seemed to make my day-to-day
> work protocols inactive. From that I thought about taken-for-granted
> protocols like "my appearance at the work desk near my time of service
> means that I am there for that purpose" - minimal handshake protocols
> - only one exact indicator is necessary - computer programs must each
> share exact information about what the protocol is - people use
> protocols that we form in response to experience or have been taught -
> the analogy of precise computer protocols and human interaction should
> not be thought to hold. A film example, the Minbari approach with gun
> turrets open showing who they are and not hiding from the other, a
> kind of humility, maybe; others could easily take open gun turrets as
> an hostile action. None of the above excuses my not understanding what
> you meant. I hope that I DO understand what "couldn't find" means now
> :)
>
> First I checked the likely Table of Contents listings of www.tamu.edu
> looking for an introduction to Texas A&M University.
> Not finding that, I searched www.tamu.edu for tamc, assuming that tamc
> -> "Texas A&M College" --> historical info about Texas A&M.
> Only found Texas A&M Motorcycle info.
> Then I tried some WWW search sites. AltaVista was taking extra time,
> so I tried InfoSeek and HotBot. I didn't know how those sites treat
> such things as "&", so I didn't know how to interpret the results of
> my quick search.
> Eventually, I found the A&M System site document through a search for
> "m university" and "m college". Don't know whether I included tamc or
> texas in the search. (I've had 'success' before in keyword searching
> for m university on NOTIS in order to find Texas A&M publications; 'a'
> is not keyword searchable on the local NOTIS catalog.)
>
> Therefore
>
> "I couldn't find the full name" with its context = (in part)
>
> I couldn't find the full name (through a service or link of the
> www.tamu.edu site), so it doesn't appear to me to be an easy thing to
> do through the A&M site.

>
> Have a nice day
> John Paul Fullerton
> j-ful...@tamu.edu


I have to say that you are the most incredible talker I've seen on this
thing. You can explain the hell out of just about anything can't you?
Well, nobody can say that you don't try to back up your replies can
they? :)

John Paul Fullerton

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