RE: Tamil Dictionary Project

[Bala Pillai]

Ranganath,

Do this as a Thamil Innaiya Erumbugal project like the many others we have
succeeded and failed in.

Next steps:

1) Join Erumbugal at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/erumbugal

2) Add London-based Amala Singh to your Yahoo IM. His ID = amala2singh and
engage with him.

3) Skim through the Erumbugal archives for what has been done so far by
others who have attempted this project or projects that share
functions/processes at core, detail or in-between (think layers of an onion
to represent levels of abstraction) levels.


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kasiganesan Ranganath [mailto:ranga...@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2005 6:27 PM
> To: ba...@apic.net
> Subject: Tamil Dictionary Project
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
> Vanakkam.
>
> I need your active cooperation for the Tamil
> Dictionary project titled as " Ulagath Thamizhp
> Peragarathi ".
>
> We need full length discussions before going into the
> design of it. Because the work is very vast.
>
> Tamil has approximately 3,00,000 basic words.
>
> Apart from this there are many "ayarchorkkal" [ word
> came from other languages ]. Ayarchchol Agarathi
> published by Thanjaith Thamizhp Palkalaikkazhagam
> discusses a lot about it.
>
> And also we have to make a sub-part called "Thurai
> thorum thamizl" [ comprises the technical words
> related to various fields e.g, Art, Science, history
> etc, ].
>
> Our primary goal of this project is to carry forward
> the words to the future generation. Maintaining the
> persistency of words. i.e, chorkkalai vazhakkozhindhu
> pogaamal Kaaththal.
>
> Our proposed database have to contain the following
> fields:
>
> Various segrigations of various words like:
>
> 1.Mutharchchol
> 2.Edaiichchol
> 3.Kadaiichchol
>
> 4.Thirisol
> 5.Thisaiichchol
>
> 6.Peyarchchol
> a. Edukurippeyar
> b. Karanappeyar
> 7.Vinaiichchol
>
> 8.Thuraiithoorum Thamizh
> a.Science
> 1.Physics
> 2.Chemistry
> 3.Life Sciences
> 4.Mathematics
> a.Engineering
> 1.Mech
> 2.Elec
> 3.Civil
> 4.C&S
> and a lot to name.
>
> So we need active discussions via mail messages and
> chat etc,.
>
> Be remember. There are a lot of hurdles to overcome.
> There are a lot of rivers and mountains to cross.
>
> I'm placing my first discussion I had with our member
> Mr.Bharathi regarding this:
>
> barathee: Hai.
> barathee: vaNakkam.
> barathee: sorry, I was not in my seat
> ranganath73: Vanakkam Pala
> barathee: pala????
> ranganath73: Pala in Tamil
> ranganath73: many
> barathee: oh okay.
> ranganath73: Actually I like to discuss about "Tamil
> Dictionary Project"
> barathee: what is it? sorry, I was offline from
> araichi group for sometime.
> ranganath73: Why friend? Do you found anything wrong?
> barathee: no not really.
> barathee: i couldnt come to any of the forums due to
> work schedule.
> ranganath73: ok
> barathee: how can i know about the proj. is there any
> disc. on th eforum
> ranganath73: No
> ranganath73: It has been initiated by Srivas
> barathee: oh.okay
> ranganath73: I'm very interested in because it will be
> a good service to the language
> barathee: yes. naturally.
> barathee: tell me how can I get more info about it?
> ranganath73: I live in Delhi.
> ranganath73: Yah
> barathee: Oh. I am in chennai.
> ranganath73: It is just like a Tamil dictionary which
> is printed but has to be in eform
> barathee: okay
> ranganath73: We have to accumulate words meanings and
> comments
> barathee: okay
> ranganath73: commens are the quotes can be from
> Tirukkural or from any Sangappadal
> ranganath73: We can add some interesting stories too
> with each word and meaning
> barathee: oh! but I may not be that specialized to
> quote from kural or any other literary forms!
> ranganath73: ok I will do my level best as I has some
> good accumulation of that.
> barathee: thats great
> ranganath73: But obviously I hope ur a opensource
> expert I can have a good idea on implemetation.
> barathee: I can do my best.
> barathee: what are the various forms of
> implemenatation you have in mind.
> barathee: apart from e-book?
> ranganath73: So here my first request is, when ever
> you have time please dream of a good model and tell
> me whenever possible.
> ranganath73: right now I have an idea for "Ulagath
> thamizl Peragarathi" using jsp front end and compatibl
> rdbms
> barathee: No problem. Before that, may I know what you
> have in mind.
> barathee: wow. thats nice.
> ranganath73: as the forum is working towords "ezhuthu"
> barathee: is there any documentation available with
> you?
> barathee: regarding this proj.
> ranganath73: But I skipped from ezhuthu and moved
> towards "Tamil history" especially history of Tamil
> People.
> barathee: oh. basically are you a tamil scholar?
> ranganath73: hope so
> ranganath73: do u visited our group recently
> barathee: thats nice.
> barathee: not, almost I dint come there atleast for
> the past 6 months.
> ranganath73: ok not bad
> barathee: no it is bad :(
> ranganath73: go to the file section and download the
> last file called "Thagaduur.pdf" and enjoy it.
> barathee: oh. I see.
> barathee: let me try this evening be4 leaving.
> ranganath73: ok
> barathee: before I forget, is there any documentations
> available about the project
> ranganath73: pl. wait.
> barathee: ok
> ranganath73: u can find in the file section of the
> Tamil_araichi and the first and second folders and the
> third file give you some initial idea and don't forget
> to install ekalappai for the Tamil fonts
> ranganath73: You will get only little info but don't
> worry it is a work which requires the lifetime
> attention.
> barathee: hope there wont be any problem for the fonts
> over here. I am using tamil-linux!
> ranganath73: That's nice
> barathee: yes.
> barathee: just a minute. let me locate the file first
> barathee: are you telling about aharathi.pdf
> ranganath73: yea that will give you a less info but a
> beginning
> barathee: ok. i will have a look at the file.
> ranganath73: As I will enter through araichi.net I am
> going to implement the one which I mentioned u before
> barathee: you mean teh 'peragaraathi'?
> ranganath73: and also go through chirmai project
> ranganath73: yes
> barathee: yes, Ihave gone thro ezhuthu-seermai project
> already. I couldnt understand it completely. so I left
> it as such!
> ranganath73: Yea it is a tough work. It is very tough
> work for me too. But it will become e Backbone of our
> mother tounge. Thanks to Srivas.
> barathee: yes. I can feel it is good for the language.
> may be I can understand, If I could pay more
> attention. let me give a try onceagain
> ranganath73: can I send a file to you?
> barathee: for reference, can you pl. send it to
> bara...@gmail.com ?
> ranganath73: ok I will send the plan I made for the
> directory project and you send ur own ideas in feature
> many issues may come up as database grows like speed
> etc.
> barathee: you are right
> ranganath73: So our ideas will break the bootle neck
> barathee: lets hope for the best. but pl. know that I
> am not a DBA.
> ranganath73: It's ok we will get a network of people
> to seggrigate tasks.
> barathee: yes.
> barathee: for IT related tasks, many people are there
> to help us.
> ranganath73: yes.
> barathee: once you sent the file, give me some time. I
> will get back to you once I get some idea. is it okay
> for you?
> ranganath73: Take ur own time. I am not a person of
> cutting the duk which is going to give golden eggs.
> barathee: hah! lets see, whether this duck yields you
> golden egg, something else..!
> ranganath73: I believe on humans.
> barathee: dont take it seriously. I tried to crack a
> joke!
> ranganath73: Tell me ur full name I have to add in my
> address book.
> ranganath73: It's ok.
> barathee: Murugapandian
> barathee: and urs plz.
> ranganath73: Kasiganesan Ranganathan.
> ranganath73: I'm a open book.
> barathee: Thanks.
> ranganath73: u may find my details everywhere
> ranganath73: I'v added ur info
> barathee: great.
> ranganath73: Ok Bharathi. I'll probably be
> communicative by tomorrow.
> barathee: send me if you receive any updates in the
> future.
> barathee: sure.
> ranganath73: sure
> ranganath73: Vazhga Valamudan
> barathee: thanks a lot.
> ranganath73: Thank you
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Kasiganesan Ranganathan.
>
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