a Tamil letter in Windows XP

[N. Ganesan]

Dear list members,

I got some queries on the Unicode Tamil letter, OM designed
as equivalent of Hindi OM there for web use. A Canadian
univ. prof. asked me this: while Windows 7 Latha font
is installed in Vista, it works. But when W7 Latha
font is put in WinXP still only a blank square is obtained.

Is this so? If so, whether Tamil OM letter can be shown
by some means? Tamil Nadu Govt. supports
Tamil Archana in its temples, here I placed
Madurai tamil archana used for decades,
using Tamil OM letter of Unicode.
http://nganesan.blogspot.com/2011/04/meenakshi-tamil-archanai.html

Erudite Tamil poets' Tamil New Year wishes are attached.

N. Ganesan

[Muguntharaj Subramanian]

This OM letter should be removed from the Tamil unicode Block.
why dont we simply write OM as ஓம் .

-Mugunth

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[Sinnathurai Srivas]

Otherwise the Hindi Ohm will litter all of Tamil Nadu. (carefully evaluate this statement.) People want it. It is  a religious symbol. Man made gods likes this symbol!!! It is called Tamil ohm. I know religion is an opium. But once one is addicted, you find other ways to cure it, not banning and drive them into enemies hand!! let's define Scientific Morality SS --- On Mon, 18/4/11, Muguntharaj Subramanian <mug...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[N. Ganesan]

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Sinnathurai Srivas <sisr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
> Otherwise the Hindi Ohm will litter all of Tamil Nadu. (carefully evaluate this statement.)
> People want it. It is  a religious symbol.
> Man made gods likes this symbol!!!
>
> It is called Tamil ohm.
>
> I know religion is an opium. But once one is addicted, you find other ways to cure it, not banning and drive them into enemies hand!!
>
> let's define Scientific Morality
>
> SS
>
>

It will remain as a Tamil letter. A section of people needs it. It's like

if you look into history, Tamil Grantha has been used to

write the holy scriptures both Dravidian and Aryan texts.

N. Ganesan

[கா. சேது | කා. සේතු | K. Sethu]

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:19 AM, N. Ganesan <naa.g...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear list members,
>
> I got some queries on the Unicode Tamil letter, OM designed
> as equivalent of Hindi OM there for web use. A Canadian
> univ. prof. asked me this: while Windows 7 Latha font
> is installed in Vista, it works. But when W7 Latha
> font is put in WinXP still only a blank square is obtained.
>
> Is this so? If so, whether Tamil OM letter can be shown
> by some means?

I have not tried copying Windows 7 Latha to Vista or XP - does the
license terms allow such copying anyway?

However in Win XP (SP3) I have found that other fonts which include Om
glyph for U+0BD0 can be used to render and see it. The ones I tried
are Lohit-Tamil and aAvarangal

Lohit-Tamil is a GNU/GPL licensed font developed and maintained by the
Fedora project of Red Hat. It comprehensively conforms to Unicode
current version. To download the latest Lohit-Tamil:

https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/o/lohit/lohit-tamil-ttf-2.4.5.tar.gz

You can decompress the above tar + gzip package with an archive
manager program such as the free and open "7-zip"
(http://www.7-zip.org/download.html) easily. For Windows, only the
font file Lohit-Tamil.ttf needs to be installed (the rest of the files
in that package are for Linux purposes).

Attached is a screen shot taken in MS Word 2003 of OM rendered with Lohit-Tamil.

To download and use Aavarangal fonts (ava1.ttf, ava2.ttf, avafxd.ttf)
that are maintained by their creator Sinnathurai Srivas go to the
following site:

http://www.araichchi.net/kanini/kanini_Tamil_Fonts_Keyboards.html

His Om symbol can be seen in his page :
http://www.araichchi.net/kanini/unicode/Ohm/Tamil_ohm.html

About the difference between using an older text rendering layout
engine having no definition of the character (example: Uniscribe in
Win XP and/or in Office 2003) with later one including that character
(example: Directwrite of Windows-7) - I guess it could be that in the
later version automatic matching to the font having the glyph for the
character could take place whereas in older versions an user has to
manually choose the font to render the character.

But if with Latha of Windows-7, the character does not get rendered in
Win XP even when user chooses it manually (say in MS Word) then it
implies that that font needs the text layout engine also to be up to
date to include the particular character whereas Lohit-Tamil and
Aavarangal fonts do not need so.

Hope MS Windows expert users would throw in more technically correct
explanations here.

Kaa. Sethu

[Va.Mu.Se. Kavi Arasan]

Thx for the information about the free font Sethu.   Non-availability of designer fonts in Unicode is always an issue for the publishing industry.   Is there a collection freely distributable designer fonts available for Unicode?   anbudan .kavi.   --- On Wed, 4/20/11, கா. சேது | කා. සේතු | K. Sethu <skh...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: கா. சேது | කා. සේතු | K. Sethu <skh...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: a Tamil letter in Windows XP To: infitt_tami...@googlegroups.com

[K. Kalyanasundaram]

Dear Kavi:

> Is there a collection freely distributable designer fonts available for Unicode?

Following webpage of azaghi.com gives links to Govt of India and Govt. of Tamilnadu sites to download over 100+ Tamil  unicode fonts: http://www.azhagi.com/freefonts.html Many of the fonts of Cadgraf (of A Elangovan) available free as part of GoI distribution are used extensively by printing industry in Tamilnadu. Kalyan --- On Thu, 4/21/11, Va.Mu.Se. Kavi Arasan <kavia...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Thava]

I think Conference Software CDs have collection of these fonts too

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[elango ae]

TN Govt (TVU)is planning to release free Tamil Unicode and TACE16 fonts as per the TN Govt standard in the near future for Windows, mac and linux.
Key board drivers for Unicode and Tace16 with Tamil99 and typewriter for Win, mac and Linux also will be made available free shortly.

 

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To: infitt_tami...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, 21 April, 2011 18:16:23

[Va.Mu.Se. Kavi Arasan]

Thanks Thava / Elango / Kalyan   Are we in a position to say there enough designer fonts available as freeware that the Tamil publishing industry should be able to use Unicode free designer fonts for all its publishing needs?   anbudan .kavi. --- On Thu, 4/21/11, elango ae <elan...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

[elango ae]

The fact is that plenty of free Tamil Unicode and TACE16 fonts are available. These are more than sufficient for any personal or educational purpose.
The definition of "Designer Fonts" is subjective  and will vary depending on the need. Professional or commercial users may require specific design for their publishing or web or mobile or tablet design. There are people creating very good designer fonts, but may be available for a price. Commercial users may not be looking for free fonts but good designs to suit their specific need. The fact is sufficient no. of good designer fonts are available for Tamil, may not all of them yet in Unicode or TACE16. 
Finally publishing industry people are fully aware about the free as well as priced fonts and they have been using them for long time. It is the general public and students who need to be aware about the availability of free Tamil fonts and tools and need encouragement to use them.

 

Thanks and Regards
A.Elangovan

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From: Va.Mu.Se. Kavi Arasan <kavia...@yahoo.com>

To: infitt_tami...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, 22 April, 2011 4:16:58

[Va.Mu.Se. Kavi Arasan]

Dear Elango   Abolutely right,  Designer fonts is a relative concept, and needs are individual specific.   Glad to know plenty of Unicode fonts are available in the free domain, which may help the publihsers who are looking for cheaper solutions by using designer fonts in freeware domain and want to user unicode instead of legacy encodings.   However I am not sure how all these "free unicode fonts"  are keeping up to the revisions of Unicode and to the revisions of Operating Systems.   One such example is the Tamil Ohm symbol, pointed out by Ganesan.   I am not sure how many of the "free fonts updated" for this symbol.   or when we add the tamil fractions, who takes ownership and update the fonts in the "freeware" world.   anbudan .kavi.

[A Elangovan]

Free Fonts - No body can be held responsible for updating regularly. It is upto the user to select the right choice for his need.
Standardisation and Certified Fonts and Drivers by TVU is a good step in the right direction. Fonts from CDAC also certified to some extend. I am not sure how often these Govts will update these free fonts in future.
IPublishers may not be looking for free fonts but quality fonts. Quality fonts development is time consuming and lot of effort and cost. If all are going to expect free fonts, most of the font designers may stop developing new quality fonts. It is not sustainable in the long run.
Regards
Elango

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From: "Va.Mu.Se. Kavi Arasan" <kavia...@yahoo.com>

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Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 05:53:54 -0700 (PDT)

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[Va.Mu.Se. Kavi Arasan]

Good thoughts Elangovan.   While "FREE FONTS"  do satisfy the immediate needs of the community.   A sustainable effort to update and certify the free fonts is essential in my opinion.   Hope fully sustainable Unicode fonts which accomodate the changes of Unicode org in one hand and satisfy the user community needs on the other hand, evolves.   anbudan .kavi. --- On Sun, 4/24/11, A Elangovan <elan...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: