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Aug 8, 2008, 5:50:05 PM8/8/08
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For those posting thru google groups, talk.us.rhode-island is now
available..

~Z~

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Aug 8, 2008, 6:03:52 PM8/8/08
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P wrote:
> For those posting thru google groups, talk.us.rhode-island is now
> available..

This means *you*, CC!

CalC

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Aug 9, 2008, 7:56:38 AM8/9/08
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Yes I see...and unfortuntely even posted before I read this, but even
had they not I would have come off the lazy mans newsreader to respond
to silliness..

Steve Bonine

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Aug 9, 2008, 9:07:08 AM8/9/08
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CalC wrote:

> Yes I see...and unfortuntely even posted before I read this, but even
> had they not I would have come off the lazy mans newsreader to respond
> to silliness..

It occurs to me that one of the advantages of posting from Google is
that your words won't be seen by all the idiots who are convinced that
the future of Usenet depends on religiously not reading anything that
comes from Google.

Aratzio

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Aug 9, 2008, 10:12:12 AM8/9/08
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 08:07:08 -0500, in the land of
talk.us.rhode-island, Steve Bonine <s...@pobox.com> got double secret
probation for writing:

Could you suck just a little harder, Steve?


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Accept No Substitute

Art Deco

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Aug 9, 2008, 11:59:15 AM8/9/08
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Aratzio <a6ah...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

As he is a devoted bambie, I'm certain the answer is "yes".

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"Classic erroneous presupposition."
-- David Tholen

Peter J Ross

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Aug 9, 2008, 3:11:23 PM8/9/08
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In news.groups on Sat, 09 Aug 2008 07:12:12 -0700, Aratzio
<a6ah...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

<boggle>

Here we see Steve The Rottweiler attacking third parties (such as
Blinky, maintainer of <http://improve-usenet.org/>, for some reason
known only to himself.

Blinky is a net.friend of mine, which might explain Steve's hostility.
(I don't, however, endorse the wholesale plonking of Google Gropers.
In the civilised newsgroups where Blinky and I both post, such
disagreements don't escalate into the kind of idiotic flaming that
Steve is attempting here.)

[I'll forward Steve's post to Blinky, but I'll also suggest that
defending oneself against kooky flames is a waste of time.]

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PJR :-)

Newsgroup name validator (beta release, use with caution)
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clams_casino

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Aug 9, 2008, 5:07:34 PM8/9/08
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Steve Bonine wrote:


If you haven't noticed, the growing number of newsgroup readers who
filter google group postings do so to avoid all the spam. With some
99% of all google group posting being spam, it's worth ignoring a few
legit postings to rid the spam.

Steve Bonine

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Aug 9, 2008, 5:29:08 PM8/9/08
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I understand your point, but I disagree.

For the newsgroups that I read, the amount of spam coming from Google is
negligible and the bother that it causes is not worth the danger of
missing something insightful that happens to have been authored by
someone who was using Google. That's my perspective, of course, and
depends as much on the low volume of spam as my desire not to miss
useful information.

Most of the people that I've seen who killfile Google say they do it
because anyone who posts from Google is automatically an idiot. After
all, the only True Usenet Users are the ones who use a Real Newsreader.
This is the same mentality that dictated that all AOL users were
useless, and so on. I'm just not that big into stereotypes.

As an illustration of the above attitude, this text is on the
improve-usenet.org website: "Most of the people who post to Usenet via
the clunky Google Groups web interface are lusers or lamers. Because of
their use of a clunky Usenet web interface (and all Usenet web
interfaces suck - Usenet wasn't designed for webification and does not
need webification), they have no idea what Usenet is, how it works, or
how to use it properly. And, generally, they don't want to learn."

The way to guarantee that they don't learn is to employ the above attitude.

Aratzio

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Aug 9, 2008, 5:52:08 PM8/9/08
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:11:23 +0100, in the land of alt.rhode_island,
Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> got double secret probation for
writing:

Pretty sure that was your basic chickenshit swipe at Balderstone and
his .sig

I'd like to know which of Balderstone's direct posts to Chihuahua (no
way he is a rotty) caused such damage.

Blinky the Shark

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Aug 9, 2008, 8:46:09 PM8/9/08
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Steve Bonine wrote:

> As an illustration of the above attitude, this text is on the
> improve-usenet.org website: "Most of the people who post to Usenet via
> the clunky Google Groups web interface are lusers or lamers. Because of
> their use of a clunky Usenet web interface (and all Usenet web
> interfaces suck - Usenet wasn't designed for webification and does not
> need webification), they have no idea what Usenet is, how it works, or
> how to use it properly. And, generally, they don't want to learn."
>
> The way to guarantee that they don't learn is to employ the above attitude.

Actually, ny hat is off to those who choose to educate the Gropers, even
though I am not in that impossibly optimistic camp. When the last one has
learned something about Usenet and how to use it, and shown this by
moving to a real news client, please announce that your Education Plan
has been completed, in news.software.readers. Thank you.


--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Need a new news feed? http://blinkynet.net/comp/newfeed.html

Thomas Reynolds

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Aug 8, 2008, 6:44:48 PM8/8/08
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"~Z~" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Funny thing is CC has Verizon, she apparently prefers Google Groups.


P

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Aug 10, 2008, 4:02:51 AM8/10/08
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> Blinky is a net.friend of mine, which might explain Steve's hostility.
> (I don't, however, endorse the wholesale plonking of Google Gropers.
> In the civilised newsgroups where Blinky and I both post, such
> disagreements don't escalate into the kind of idiotic flaming that
> Steve is attempting here.)
>
> [I'll forward Steve's post to Blinky, but I'll also suggest that
> defending oneself against kooky flames is a waste of time.]
>
> --
> PJR :-)

Besides the spam, could(or would) someone explain the reasons someone would
wholesale ignore posting/s thru google groups?

C.C.

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Aug 12, 2008, 10:20:21 AM8/12/08
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> This means *you*, CC!

Tom Reynolds writes:
Funny thing is CC has Verizon, she apparently prefers Google Groups.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
In RI, I have Cox. And a really slow old imac which has to ponder
each command for about 15 seconds before it responds. So I read Tom
R. via google.groups.
Google groups is slow and I notice that my postings don't show up for
several hours, when I try to see if they've been posted.
In MA I have Verizon, but haven't figured out how to access my 2-3
favorite newsgroups on it. I think I'll have to dig out my original
papers which give me my billing information.
Besides, if I do sign on to a newsgroup provider (must be free), do I
still just click on a newsgroup name in my internet window top, or
does this other way actually feed all postings to my email? That
would be too much! -- how to stop the flow?

C.C.

Thomas Reynolds

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Aug 12, 2008, 10:52:12 AM8/12/08
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"C.C." <carol...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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CC, you need to open Outlook Express to the news groups area (it probably
says "news.verizon.net"). Then click the "newsgroups" box near the top,
then in the large box which opens, on the right side. click on "reset list"
and after the list resets (may take several tries), use the search function
at the top of that box to type in the names of the groups you want and then
subscribe when you find them by highlighting and clicking "subscribe". But
you need to reset the list first as it is resides on your machine and is out
of date at this point. Talk.us.rhode-island is not on it because it didn't
exist when you first downloaded the NG list some time back.


ctowers

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Aug 12, 2008, 11:48:02 AM8/12/08
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C.C. wrote:

> In MA I have Verizon, but haven't figured out how to access my 2-3
> favorite newsgroups on it. I think I'll have to dig out my original
> papers which give me my billing information.
> Besides, if I do sign on to a newsgroup provider (must be free), do I
> still just click on a newsgroup name in my internet window top, or
> does this other way actually feed all postings to my email? That
> would be too much! -- how to stop the flow?
>

Did you not see my post made several days ago?

If you go here - http://www.dslreports.com/faq/5825 it will explain how you
setup OE to work with Verizon. If you do not use OE, the same basic
instructions will still apply to other programs.

And no, your email and newsgroup accounts should not blend together if you
use the same program to access both, they will be kept seperate and
distinct.

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_ct_


Thomas Reynolds

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Aug 12, 2008, 1:29:39 PM8/12/08
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"ctowers" <zcto...@zgmailz.com> wrote in message
news:g7sbc4$1a0$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
Good stuff there if the OE has not been previously set up for Verizon.


Stumblingblock

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Aug 12, 2008, 1:51:14 PM8/12/08
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"C.C." <carol...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9eff4bb7-7fb6-443c...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
Also, somthing I do that most don't: contact Earthlink for highspeed, they
(due to court order) are available most places even tho you wouldn't know,
they provide free newsgroup servers, and have been a great provider for me.


P

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Aug 12, 2008, 7:06:17 PM8/12/08
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"Thomas Reynolds" <tom.re...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:wshok.660$EL2.98@trnddc01...

Does she have a PC or Mac?

ctowers

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Aug 12, 2008, 8:50:01 PM8/12/08
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Thomas Reynolds wrote:
> "ctowers" <zcto...@zgmailz.com> wrote in message
>>
>> If you go here - http://www.dslreports.com/faq/5825 it will explain
>> how you
>> setup OE to work with Verizon. If you do not use OE, the same basic
>> instructions will still apply to other programs.
>>
>> And no, your email and newsgroup accounts should not blend together
>> if you use the same program to access both, they will be kept
>> seperate and distinct.
>>
>>
> Good stuff there if the OE has not been previously set up for Verizon.

The - http://www.dslreports.com/faq/5825 - link is good for *all* Verizon
DSL customers.
--
_ct_


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