Astrology FAQ
Edmond Wollmann
Over the years the same questions about astrology, astrologers and
related issues arise fairly consistently. This Frequently Asked
Questions form answers many of these questions from this astrologers
work over the years. Comments and suggestions are welcome.
Table of Contents
How do I choose an astrologer?
Where can I find astrologers that are qualified?
What can astrology do for me?
Who is right, the sidereal astrologers or tropical astrologers?
What information is a real astrological consultation based on?
When is astrology useful and valid?
How do I choose an astrologer?
This question is primarily a subjective one, once the client
understands the purpose of astrology and the astrologer they can then
make a decision based on what they perceive will serve them best. An
astrologer can serve in many ways because astrology is the tool that
delineates life experiences and life events. It is my view that
astrology best serves the client if it offers alternatives that
improve the client's life experiences. Because of my conviction that
our reality is utterly created by our beliefs and definitions, it is
these that I believe need addressing in any consultation.
Where can I find astrologers that are qualified?
There are organizations that test astrologers listed at my links page
that can recommend astrologers in your area. There are also qualified
astrologers listed at American Federation of Astrologers. Even though
they are qualified there are questions you must always ask to satisfy
yourself that the astrologer you seek is at your level and has your
quality of life enhancement as their first priority. Guru following or
advising is a strong clue that the astrologer has not had sufficient
training in counsel. It is my recommendation that astrologers be
trained at least in undergraduate psychology or counsel to the 300-400
level. Although this is no indication of intent or ability
astrologically, it is some indication of the counselor's seriousness
about their work. The astrologer must have the ability to refer
clients to other professionals (such as clinical psychologists,
therapists, business consultants, etc.) because of the high
probability of receiving clients with difficulties that require the
services of these other professionals.
What can astrology do for me?
Astrology allows us insight into our own personality, motivations,
beliefs, and early environmental factors we have internalized that
affect our decision making. Astrology can provide insight into how
these factors may unfold in probable fashion through future planetary
aspects and progressed measurements. It can give us insight into
others and therefore increase understanding and depth in our
relationships. Please see my astrological definitions FAQ.
Who is right, the sidereal astrologers or tropical astrologers?
These are just two different ways of viewing the same thing in my
view. The relative positions of the astronomical bodies really do not
change and the Zodiacs can carry meaning for the observer. Astrology
is not a hard science and offers many ways to understanding. The key
is how the astrologer serves and is able to bring to the client the
awareness necessary to aid in their fulfillment and growth. Soon we
will require a galactic astrology and that will change the view of
astrology completely. Heliocentric astrology is also a valid
application of astrology and offers us insight in yet another way.
What information is a real astrological consultation based on?
A real complete astrological consultation is based on time, date and
place of birth. Sunsign astrology is an incomplete "popular" notion
that generalizes the qualities to such an extent as to make them
nebulous and likely to fit anyone. Astrology is NOT what is generally
accepted and spun by newspapers and the media etc. based only on
Sunsigns, anymore than "Ask Ann Landers" or some newspaper advice
column is depth psychology, counseling or professional therapy. Would
you base important life decisions on that?
To make sweeping generalizations with sun signs is simplistic and
irresponsible. The study of astrology is complex and must be learned
like any other discipline. It must be treated with the respect it
deserves as a powerful tool of understanding. Tools are always
dependent upon the astuteness of the craftsman and their application
abilities.
There is one way that sun signs can be used in a positive way. That is
by having the horoscope done properly and accurately and then placing
the sun on the ascendant with its degree and sign as the ascendant.
This is the solar chart. The solar chart can then be read just like a
natal and is very revealing as far as implications and
interpretations. In this way the solar chart can be used in
conjunction with the natal house arrangement and adds powerful
information as far as transits etc. as well once an accurate horoscope
has been obtained.
There are as many different vibrations as people and even more
astrological possibilities. Even twins can express different levels of
the same chart, so there is no fixed pattern of anything that makes
anyone set as a such and such.
In the same way that a doctor would not make such irresponsible
diagnoses based on a persons hair color-so in the same way astrology
demands full and cogent renderings based on complete information, and
the counselor must be astute and perceptive enough to allow the client
to evidence how they have manifested their particular chart.
At least with a solar chart we can still take the natal positions in
consideration for a more complete view of the person in question. The
astrologer must be diverse and open to viewing the subject in many
ways. If astrology is to be treated as a serious subject and valuable
paradigm, it must presented and applied it in a coherent and
comprehensive way.
When is astrology useful and valid?
Astrology mirrors life. We delineate the life of the individual,
subject, issue or event. Whatever is "born" at any moment is really a
part of an overall unfoldment called life. Therefore there really are
no special times for insight or understanding-which is astrology's
best use and benefit. Astrology cannot replace critical thinking,
strategic planning, required efforts, or the development of necessary
skills to succeed in this world. It will not "give" anyone magic
powers, special abilities, "luck" or any other quality that is the
product of effort, application of the self or just plain required
learning. But it will enhance understanding in what we may need or
prefer to create in our lives that brings meaning and purpose to our
existence. From that view, it is priceless. When I leave this world
all that I may possibly take with me is what's on my mind and in my
heart. Astrology can allow us to develop these attributes in a
qualitative way-which may very well be the primary purpose for living
to begin with.
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
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> Over the years the same questions about astrology, astrologers and
> related issues arise fairly consistently.
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>Over the years the same questions about astrology, astrologers and
>related issues arise fairly consistently.
Such as:
What are Dan Kettler's psychic powers and why does he have a dead cat
on his head?
How far will Wollmann's POS book sink in sales figures this week?
How can Ed look at himself in the mirror?
How strong is the Kook vacuum in alt.astrology and who will be the
next victim?
Has the SDSU psych department been doing a study on the role of the
village idiot in society for six year or is Ed really that stupid?
What day of February is this?
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> Over the years the same questions about astrology, astrologers and
> related issues arise fairly consistently. This Frequently Asked
> Questions form answers many of these questions from this astrologers
> work over the years. Comments and suggestions are welcome.
1. Why is Ed Wollmann an asshole, kook, child killer and deadbeat?
A. Because he created that reality.
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the ideas I have proposed of the idea of reality being created not only
individually, but collectively as well. The horoscope defines our
definitions about reality and must be read against the backdrop of the
collectivity and their beliefs. This is a must. It therefore behooves
each astrologer to acquaint themselves with much that is offered in the
way of understanding different realities-here again I offer current
academia in reinforcement of the nature of reality. Hopefully the
readers have learned to discern that the reality that we once thought so
fixed and impermeable is rapidly being discerned as the flexible clay
that it is. These posts are offered in the spirit of the recognition
that you have the power to create the life you prefer. The horoscope
helps us understand our definitions in a more expanded way-what we do
with this awareness is reflected in our understanding of selves, our
fellow man/woman and our actions-the conviction of belief. Physicality
always reflects symbolically the beliefs of its creator-you (us).
Astrology is just one way to read this writing on the 360 degree screen
around us called reality.
"Despite the, belief by some that science provides a windowpane of clear
glass that gives an undistorted view of nature as it really is, there is
a growing awareness that the values and beliefs of the scientists'
culture can shape their own perceptions (Gergen, 1985; Gusfield, 1976;
Sampson, 1977).
The values and beliefs of any culture are subsumed under a larger social
construction called an ideology. An ideology is a set of beliefs and
values held by the members of a social group, which explains its culture
both to itself and to other groups. These beliefs and values produce a
psychological reality that promotes a particular way of life within the
culture (Giddens, 1981; Hogan & Emler, 1978; Mannheim, 1936). Put more
simply, an ideology is the theory that a social group has about itself.
Thus, just as individuals have a theory about themselves (self-concept)
that guides their behavior, so too does a society (ideology).
Although homogeneous societies have only one ideology, societies
containing diverse subcultures contain multiple ideologies. In Canada,
for example, there is the dominant culture of the English-speaking
provinces, as well as the subcultures of French-speaking Quebec and the
Native American tribes. Although the dominant ideology within a
multicultural society will be that of the most powerful social group (in
Canada's case, it is that of the English speaking culture), the other
subcultures' views of reality will also significantly influence social
life within the society. In the United States, social psychologist
Joseph Baldwin (1986) has investigated how African-American and European
American ideologies differ. Yet despite the influence that a subordinate
group's view of reality may have on its members, the dominant ideology
of the society will ultimately impose the greatest structure on social
behavior.
Ideologies within any given society, especially the dominant ideology,
will help to provide a shape and a focus to people's perceptions of
their world. This ideology, which is internalized by individuals at a
very young age, becomes so much a part of their perspective on reality
that people think of the beliefs and values making up the ideology as
natural, universal, and unchanging. Immersed within this particular
world view, it becomes difficult for one to entertain an alternative
perspective. Employing an analogy, if you are a fish you probably do not
realize you're wet. Wet is all you know. There is no alternative state
that you could possibly consider yourself to be in. If a cat asked you
what it's like to be wet all the time, you would likely tell your fellow
fish about this strange creature who asked you an equally strange
question. It would be the very rare fish indeed who could comprehend
what the cat was asking. Perhaps a flying fish who has briefly
experienced an alternative reality could entertain the dual realities of
wet and dry. Perhaps. But most likely a cat would have to teach the fish
about the dry world view." Social Psychology, Stephen L. Franzoi,
Marquette University, 1996.
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really not capable of being "ruled" by ANY body in our solar system.
Like the light that is focused through a camera, the energies OUTSIDE of
our solar system are simply FOCUSSED through the planet(oids) and bodies
of our system. It is actually the SIGNS that rule (supersede in
consciousness terms) the planets.
The sign's archetypal reference is BEST distilled by certain bodies
over other bodies in our system that more closely ALIGN with the
energies of the constellation. Conscious mind functions and the aspects
of persona are CLOSER in to the conscious mind source or PHYSICALITY
source, the Sun. Therefore the further out we go in orbital path
(consistent orbital path) the deeper into aspects of the unconscious we
go-hence Chiron-the planetoid of TRANSITION cannot "rule" (or distill)
conscious mind functions as well as it can reflect the transition from
physical conscious FOCUS (Saturn) to higher mind and unconscious
recognitions (Uranus)since its orbit falls between them. The lens of the
camera, best focuses light sources that its DISTANCE from the projection
point was designed to focus.
The "light" of the universe is distilled and brought into our awareness
and consciousness through the "lenses" of the planetary archetypal
references (the bodies therein)-the planets, based on MAJOR ORBITAL
positioning. This light is then colored, filtered, or in other ways
altered with nuance through the lesser lenses of planetoid and asteroid
bodies.
When the student is ready the planetary position and body is experienced
MORE consciously-as the consciousness of self expands to MEET the orbit
of the planetary consciousness that acts as the lens there. Upon
incarnation the consciousness BEGINS to focus in its journey to REBIRTH
at Pluto-as it moves toward the light center-after incarnation
consciousness expands back to meet its source.
It is upon our awakening from the focused DREAM of physicality that
Chiron-the planetoid that assists in this awakening through the
TRANSITION of perspective from wounded (Saturn) to healed (Uranus) by
the simple CHANGE OF MIND, then makes its true nature known and
experienced.
These external symbols are the externalized versions of the universal
premise of consciousness workings within-the better those are
understood-the more the external in known and understood. Because it is
THE MIRROR OF MIND IN MATTER.
The understanding of ALL of the "lenses" in THIS system is known as the
Christ consciousness-wherein you realize that you are the SYSTEM you
previously BELIEVED you existed within. Then these "systems (solar group
together in like consciousness around the star Arcturus to form the
light of lights-then around.....until it is seen that you ARE the
Multiverse and "All That Is" that you THOUGHT existed outside of you.
It is Chiron that assists in reflecting to us the necessary transition
of mind that is needed to wake up and re-member the unconscious
forgotten knowledge at Uranus-when that occurs, very little is a
"shock".
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The positive path is the integral path. The only "one truth" is that THE
truth is the composite of all truths. There is no "one truth" or one
reality. If there were only one truth there would only be one person,
place, thing. Look around you. All beings are all the ways that "All
That Is" has of expressing itself (these truths) within the creation
that it is. It is the disbelief in one's own power that creates
negativity, and the belief in the need to attack ideas that the negative
ego fears will invalidate identity.
Self-Empowered- Is the recognition that we have everything we need at
any given moment to be the fullest we can be. It embraces the idea that
we know we create our reality 100% by what we believe and/or have been
taught to believe to be "true." The empowered individual recognizes that
their reality is created from all levels of psychic material, i.e.,
unconscious, conscious, collective unconscious, superconscious, and that
although they may be at a loss in the present to understand how the
reality they have created fits, it still must fit, and that sooner or
later they will understand why they have createrd what they have
created. They understand that the physical world is the EFFECT of the
non-physical spiritual template archetypally, and that all springs from
the inner self which is connected firmly to "All Tha Is". This
archetypal template is reflected through the Zodiac and galactic and
planetary relationships.
Empowerment comes from within. Knowing we are as connected to the ALL as
we will ever be, we can trust that we lack nothing, we have all the
tools and all the abilities that we require at any given moment to be
anything we are willing and bold enough to believe we can define
ourselves to be. We are always in control 100% even when we use 90% to
create the illusion that we have only the other 10%. No one can make us
feel inferior, thwart our inspirations, or derail what we know to be
true for ourselves without our agreement and consent. The self-empowerd
being recognizes that the universe has no built-in meaning asnd this
view is the unbiased and discerning view. Taking responsibility (not
guilt) for our reality BECAUSE we know it is our creation, is the
self-empowered approach. Many confuse aknowledging one's creations with
believing we must be punished or shamed for them (guilt, the opposite of
love). This is from judging the creation and hence ourselves, not taking
responsibility for it.
Integrity= Functioning as an integrated whole self, without placing
power outside of the self, because nothing is truly outside of the self.
Integrity consists of the recognition that we are as powerful as we need
to be to create whatever we desire to create in our reality, without
having to hurt or MALIGN ourselves or anyone else in order to create it
(power-LESS behavior). We are always a part of the problem or of the
solution. Our position on the on this scale is therefore defined by our
actions. Action is the evidence of the convictions, intentions and
beliefs held. Intention can only be conveyed by the creator of the
intention. If it is true for them, then integrity will follow and only
the positive can result from integral intentions.
Because we create our reality utterly, we are not responsible FOR
anyone only responsible TO them by being as much as we can be in
integrity by following our bliss and excitement and discerning our OWN
intention. The All is vibration, and the vibration you are within this
all will BE the reality you experience EVERYWHERE-ALL THE TIME. No
matter WHAT OTHER reality may be in existence at any given moment. It
always works this way, and no-one is exempt.
Negative beliefs do not have any more power than positive. Ridicule is
negative and tells us of the perpetrator, not the ridiculed. These ideas
are choices, so they are not necessarily "unfortunate", for every being
creates their reality utterly as the product of what they believe or
have been taught to believe is true. The truth is composed of all truths
within any given system of reference containing its own reinforcing
logic.
Individuals can choose act in positive ways or in negative ways.
A) Positive is simply integrative, unifying, expansive,
inclusive-INTEGRAL.
B) Negative is separative, segregative, limited, conflicted functions in
PARTS.
But the positive individual, by the light by which they shine, will
simply show the negative individual(s) that they are;
A) Untouchable and unthwarted by anything that is not of a similar
vibration. And that;
B) They offer back to the negative individual(s) an offering of a
choice, a choice to also be positive. If the other(s) do not choose to
be positive then they can simply go their own way, for that which is
negative cannot exist within the blinding light of that which is
positive, it is simple mechanics-PHYSICS. Even if they are sitting next
to you. That is all. Even if the negativity is intentional, the positive
person will still extract a positive effect and RESOLVE developmental
tension to harness positive benefit.
Action is the manifested evidence of conviction and belief, because life
happens through you not to you.
No one can interpret a life or vibrational level at which they
themselves have not, or are not capable of functioning, because all is
vibration.
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
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Eleanor Roosevelt
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Wisdom-Through The Gospel of John
Edmond Wollmann
November 29, 1996
The Gospel of John reflects the expression of the logos (or word of "All
That Is"). It is the apex of the expression of the gospels, and reflects
in my opinion the wisdom of the idea that our reality and experiences
are one with ourself.
"Behold I have given you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and
over all the power of the enemy; and nothing shall hurt you." The Christ
After having read quite a bit on the philosophical notion of wisdom,
as well as the notion put forth in the old testament in Proverbs (where
this discussion must begin), it is my firm opinion that the gospels were
written with the escalation of consciousness and awareness in mind. I
believe that these were meant to culminate as the ultimate expression of
wisdom in the Gospel of John that spawns revelation.
According to most philosophical perspectives, wisdom is achieved
through questioning-through critical thinking is what is implied.
Wisdom then from this perspective is questioning everything, so that we
are lead to wisdom through this questioning. It is this questioning or
action of the seeking of wisdom which has been replaced where once, as
it is represented in the Judaic tradition, wisdom is seen as existing as
an archetypal "thing". However, most students of philosophy would agree
that the searching for the wisdom is not the same as the practice of it.
In other words either way it is implied that wisdom is a state of being
wherein questioning perhaps, coherency of thought perhaps, or an insight
from the two has now lead to this state of being. It is this state of
being, this evolutionary awareness, that is the Christ consciousness.
In Proverbs 8, the existence of wisdom as an archetype is laid down;
Does not wisdom call, and does not understanding raise her voice? 2 On
the heights, beside the way, at the crossroads she takes a stand...
6 Hear for I will speak noble things, and from my lips will come what
is right; 7 for my mouth will utter truth; wickedness is an abomination
to my lips. 8 All the words of my mouth are righteous; there is nothing
twisted or crooked in them.
12 I wisdom, live with prudence, and I attain knowledge and
discretion.
14 I have good advice and sound wisdom; I have insight I have
strength.
It is important that we remember these passages well-not only because
they are reflective of the perspective of the times, but because they
are powerfully reflected in manifestation in John's gospel. It goes on
in the following passages to reiterate that wisdom was laid down and
created at the beginning of creation. Curiously it is knowledge and
discretion that are "attained" through wisdom! Although these aspects
are attained, wisdom still seems to be already there, and that these
other characteristics are then the product of this state of being in
"wisdom".
Whether we view wisdom as the product of knowledge and discretion, or
knowledge and discretion as being the product of wisdom, it still exists
as a state of being and receives or exists in the feminine archetypal
reference. Meaning that it is more of an archetypal reference that
attracts the being to the state, whereas, the expression of spirit is
the masculine force that expresses it. The driving force or motivational
force of God expressed as masculine that expresses the wisdom of God.
This is expressed in Wisdom of Solomon clearly and is even addressed as
a female in verse 6:12;
Wisdom is radiant and unfading, and she is easily discerned by those
who love her, and is found by those who seek her. She hastens to make
herself known to those who desire her.
And again in Corinthians 1:24-30
24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power
of God and the wisdom of God....30 He is the source of your life in
Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God, and righteousness and
sanctification and redemption,
Here it is seen that Christ was embodying wisdom. In essence that he was
the most effective teacher at bringing wisdom, the wisdom that exists
eternally, into the world. He evidently was the master at the
explanation of and expression of this "idea" that exists called wisdom.
That wisdom is the feminine expressed with power as the masculine
expression, and is seen again in the Gospel of Matthew 13:54;
He came to his hometown and began to teach the people in their
synagogue, so that they were astounded and said, "Where did this man get
this wisdom and these deeds of power?"
This wisdom it seems has been expressed over and over as the power that
emanates from another world. That it was the will of a creator from
another world that was the true will of what "should" be.
yet not what I will but what you will.. Mark 14:36.
And is expressed in the synoptic gospels as the transfiguration Matthew
17:2-5;
And he was transfigured before them, and his face shone like the sun,
and his garments became white as light. And behold there appeared to
them Moses and Elijah, talking with him...when lo, a bright cloud
overshadowed them, and a voice from the cloud said, "This is my beloved
son, with whom I am well pleased; listen to him.
It is this "otherworldliness" that characterized his mission as the
Christ. It is this otherworldly orientation that seems to allow him
access to the archetype of wisdom as we shall see in John.
So before John, we have;
1) The establishment of wisdom as a feminine archetype, that is acted
upon through the power of expression.
2) It is expressed as the word, the messenger, the messiah. These are
the masculine expressions of the wisdom of God.
3) That from Mark through John we have increasingly mystical expressions
or levels of the expression of this idea. In essence the Christ becomes
more and more metaphoric and esoteric as we move through the gospels to
John and revelations.
I have been studying the significance of the 3's and 4's in all
philosophic and actually biological structures as well, and I believe
that these choices of 4 gospels and 12 disciples is anything but random.
The fact that John is last is no random choice (or manifestation we
could say) either in my opinion. The gospel of John synthesizes and acts
as the apex of expression of not only the previous gospels but of the
bible in general.
About "Revelation" it is said; "Closer examination shows that each of
the series of 7 is somehow marked by the author so that it consists of
subsets of four and three. In the seals, for example, there were four
horsemen and three heavenly signs. Here the four seem to relate to the
earth and three to the spiritual world." (New Testament Story, David L.
Barr). Please see my article entitled "The Great Pyramids, DNA, And The
Elements". This is the universal premise and the theory of unified
fields will be based on this.
However, as the expression of wisdom I believe the gospels to be
written at these different levels for several reasons which are levels
in themselves. The first being to resonate with all "types" of
individuals in these four categories.
It is apparent that the gospel of Matthew speaks of the birth of Christ
with the Magi and the star as a way to establish the identity of Christ
in the world (Fire). In Mark all references such as being in the desert
with the wild beasts in the desert, establishes Christ and his awakening
in the physical or Earthly domain (Earth). In Luke it begins with the
establishment of relationships connected to the Christ (John the Baptist
and his birth etc.) and the concepts instilled by angelic beings of what
the idea of the Christ was to be (Air).
When we get to John however, we see that he begins with the idea that
strongly parallels the wisdom and feminine function and its expression
we have been discussing as beingness eternally John 1;
In the beginning was the Word, and the word was with God, and the word
was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being
through him, and without him not one thing came into being. What came
into being in him was life, and the life was the light of all people.
The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not overcome it.
Now it appears in John that the empathic knowingness of all that has
come before is blended in this gospel in a coherent manner (Water). What
do I mean by coherent? It is explained rather well through coherence
theory in philosophy and is stated thus that;
"An empirical belief is true if and only if it coheres with a system of
other beliefs, which together form a comprehensive account of reality."
Now of course it can be argued whether the overall thrust of Biblical
reference could be considered a comprehensive account of reality, but if
we look at the definition closely it is empirical belief that we are
discussing. Every system of belief has its own reinforcing logic.
Therefore within each system of belief THE truth is the effect of this
system of beliefs and their coherency. It is coherency that the Gospel
of John seems to be about. The coherency of blending other world
awareness, vision, wisdom and insight in dealing with this world.
And the word became flesh and lived among us, and we have seen his
glory as of a fathers only son, full of grace and truth. John 1:14
That this gospel expresses the apex of expression with this empathic
theme is shown in the first sign in verse 2:10 in turning the water to
wine;
"Everyone serves the good wine first, and then the inferior wine after
the guests have become drunk. But you have kept the good wine until now.
This not only reflects the emotional thematic blending but, the
placement and level of the gospel itself! John establishes his level of
coherency in the presentation of the gospel and refers to himself
throughout as "the disciple that Jesus loved" to accentuate this
emotion. That Christ is married to wisdom is reflected in the statement
during the Baptizing (another water reference) in 3:22-28 when in verse
29 he has John the baptist saying of Christ;
"He who has the bride is the bridegroom. The friend of the bridegroom
(meaning himself), who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly at the
bridegroom's voice.
Other water references include; Christ baptizing "more" people than
John the Baptist, the Samaritan woman drawing water from the well and
his explanation of "living water" that he gives, the washing of the
blind man's eyes in the pool, the royal official who heard of his
changing the water into wine's son being healed as the second sign-so
that the momentum of each event flows through John's gospel into the
next with vision through foresight.
In John's gospel it is made clear that wisdom is made manifest through
the life of Christ and that there was not indecision or procrastination
in his discernment of it. He also makes clear that everything happens
for a reason and the disciples see this-which is not so clearly
expressed in the other gospels. He allows us to become aware of the fact
that at least from his perspective Christ knew exactly what he was doing
all along and was quite aware of the significance of every event and its
meaning and that relaxing judgment and acknowledging the "real" world as
actually the other world and this world as the illusion. Is this just
great literary ability on the part of John in his expression of the
gospel? Was he really there in this interaction and this is the most
coherent of the gospels because of his own understanding and wisdom? Or
is it as I believe all of the above and the primary reason why he was
the "disciple that he loved"?
In any case the writing in itself is a superb expression of the wisdom
of the probability of other world resource, and its most coherent
explanation of healthy application-metaphoric as opposed to historic as
it may be. It is a mechanistic truth, albeit denied by many, that "The
father and I are one." John 10:30
References
Kolak/Martin, The Experience of Philosophy.
Wadsworth Publishing, 1993
Holy Bible, New Revised Standard Edition.
Oxford University Press, 1989
Barr, David L., The New Testament Story.
Wadsworth Publishing, 1995
Fischer, Mary Pat, Living Religions.
Prentice/Hall, 1994
Bruder/Moore, Philosophy, The Power of Ideas.
Mayfield Publishing, 1993
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© 2002 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
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> http://www.astrocons.com/whine.htm
>
> The positive path is the
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<Arctu...@spamcop.net> painted a red bull's eye on his forehead,
ascended the altar of Fluffy and shouted:
>I have posted many times about the nature of reality.
But you have yet to get it right.
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Carl Wilson
>I have posted many times about the nature of reality.
[...]
But still remain out of touch with it....
Carl Wilson
<Arctu...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>The constellations (which are groups of stars and configurations) are
>really not capable of being "ruled" by ANY body in our solar system.
But do you still claim that they are "millions of light years away"
Edmo? I would have thought that someone so "knowledgeable" of
astronomy as you claim to be would know that they are all within our
own galaxy....
"Why would we place the human experience in a constellation millions
of light years away?" - Edmond H. Wollmann
http://www.kook-watch.net/archives/Edmond_Wollmann-6.html
Mr. XXXX
indigocoatl
>Edmond Wollmann <e...@astroconsulting.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/faqs.htm
>>
>> Over the years the same questions about astrology, astrologers and
>> related issues arise fairly consistently. This Frequently Asked
>> Questions form answers many of these questions from this astrologers
>> work over the years. Comments and suggestions are welcome.
>>
>> Table of Contents
>> How do I choose an astrologer?
>
>Ask him his name. If he replies with something other than "Wollmann,"
>"Augusts" or "Min," you're probably in pretty good shape.
You forgot 'Huge", "Peat", "Jeffcoat", "Stapleton"...
>> Where can I find astrologers that are qualified?
>
>Qualified for what?
>
>> What can astrology do for me?
>
>Well, if you're Edmond Wollmann, you think that it can provide you
>access to the pocketbooks of "rich bitches." But you'd be wrong.
>
>> Who is right, the sidereal astrologers or tropical astrologers?
>
>The rational astrologers.
>
>> What information is a real astrological consultation based on?
>
>Birth data.
>
>> When is astrology useful and valid?
>
>Tuesdays.
Uh uh!
With the above "astrologers", the answer is NEVER.
With someone like Richard Nolle or Ken Kizer, try EVERY TIME.
HTH!!! :D
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"The best place to bury a good dog
is in the heart of his master."
Los Diablos Tejanos
Isn't that where you accumulate stuff your sister has said and spew it
back out again, misspelled while claiming it as your own?
ash
['Hrmm. Maybe that should be the Collective UNconsciousness.']
--
"Another bloody country gone West."
_________________________________________________________________
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can hunt some Liberty down. Or you can eat lead. Get off my wave.
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>Christ as The Manifestation of
> Wisdom-Through The Gospel of John
> Edmond Wollmann
> November 29, 1996
>The Gospel of John reflects the expression of the logos (or word of "All
>That Is"). It is the apex of the expression of the gospels, and reflects
>in my opinion the wisdom of the idea that our reality and experiences
>are one with ourself.
> References
>Kolak/Martin, The Experience of Philosophy.
>Wadsworth Publishing, 1993
>
>Holy Bible, New Revised Standard Edition.
>Oxford University Press, 1989
>
>Barr, David L., The New Testament Story.
>Wadsworth Publishing, 1995
>
>Fischer, Mary Pat, Living Religions.
>Prentice/Hall, 1994
>
>Bruder/Moore, Philosophy, The Power of Ideas.
>Mayfield Publishing, 1993
I bet they appreciated being plagarized, fucknuts!
ash
['Maybe we should write and tell them, so they'll be all enthused!']
indigocoatl
>indigocoatl <indig...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:03:39 -0400, d0...@petitm0rte.net (jfred) wrote:
>>
>> >Edmond Wollmann <e...@astroconsulting.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/faqs.htm
>> >>
>> >> Over the years the same questions about astrology, astrologers and
>> >> related issues arise fairly consistently. This Frequently Asked
>> >> Questions form answers many of these questions from this astrologers
>> >> work over the years. Comments and suggestions are welcome.
>> >>
>> >> Table of Contents How do I choose an astrologer?
>> >
>> >Ask him his name. If he replies with something other than "Wollmann,"
>> >"Augusts" or "Min," you're probably in pretty good shape.
>>
>> You forgot 'Huge", "Peat", "Jeffcoat", "Stapleton"...
>
>Ooops!!!!!!
LOL
>> >> Where can I find astrologers that are qualified?
>> >
>> >Qualified for what?
>> >
>> >> What can astrology do for me?
>> >
>> >Well, if you're Edmond Wollmann, you think that it can provide you
>> >access to the pocketbooks of "rich bitches." But you'd be wrong.
>> >
>> >> Who is right, the sidereal astrologers or tropical astrologers?
>> >
>> >The rational astrologers.
>> >
>> >> What information is a real astrological consultation based on?
>> >
>> >Birth data.
>> >
>> >> When is astrology useful and valid?
>> >
>> >Tuesdays.
>>
>> Uh uh!
>> With the above "astrologers", the answer is NEVER.
>>
>> With someone like Richard Nolle or Ken Kizer, try EVERY TIME.
>>
>> HTH!!! :D
>
>Definately! Great info for the faq!
:)
So, where's the faq?
>Also, go to http://www.angelfire.com/ego2/edmowollmann/ !!
>
>I just checked it out, and was LMAO!!!!!
I know... it's a work of art! :D