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More on Katie Marilyn Dean and Ted Vollmer, 12 yrs in Lazaris cult!

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J.

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Jan 16, 2005, 2:58:35 PM1/16/05
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The site, cosmicfool.com, was started in September 2000 by Katie Dean
and Ted Vollmer. For 12 years they considered Lazaris a "loving,
good-humored entity giving logical, common-sense information" and
traveled to seminars and bought Lazaris audio- and videotapes. But they
started questioning their relationship with Lazaris after witnessing
Peny North's backbiting of some followers on the Lazaris Web message
board, Vollmer said. They thought she should have been above that
because of her close relationship with Lazaris.

The Orlando Sentinel, Jan. 6, 2004
Amy C. Rippel


12 years in the Lazarius cult! Are these Cosmic Fool trolls dumb or what?

Marilynvollmer

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Jan 16, 2005, 8:22:23 PM1/16/05
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Questions for Katie, Master Katie, Marilyn, Mistress Marilyn, Katie Dean, Katie
Vollmer, Katie Cohen, Marilyn Cohen and, of course, Marilyn Vollmer:

Why did you change your name? I mean, I could see changing your last name when
you married but that would be to your husband's name and besides, you didn't
just change your last name but your first name too. I only ask cuz I lovingly
want to get to know this great mystery, this Marilyn Katie Noggin Guess Who
Vollmer Dean Cohen ( what fun you must be at the DMV!).
Please answer politely.And remember, sometimes its not 'ant, its 'ent'--you
seem to have trouble retaining what you've learned, I've noticed.

PS BTW Sheryl, Deborah and others---might I suggest that if you want Katie
(etc.) to block you and not bother you anymore, you might want to start
replying to my posts (even with just one word or whatever) even if you don't
like them or have nothing to say.That way, she'd either have to block you or
risk the pain she (etc.) aparently experiences when reading my posts. She DOES
have me blocked, dontcha know.....

J.

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Jan 16, 2005, 8:54:43 PM1/16/05
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Marilynvollmer wrote:
> Questions for Katie, Master Katie, Marilyn, Mistress Marilyn, Katie Dean, Katie
> Vollmer, Katie Cohen, Marilyn Cohen and, of course, Marilyn Vollmer:
>
> Why did you change your name? I mean, I could see changing your last name when
> you married but that would be to your husband's name and besides, you didn't
> just change your last name but your first name too. I only ask cuz I lovingly
> want to get to know this great mystery, this Marilyn Katie Noggin Guess Who
> Vollmer Dean Cohen ( what fun you must be at the DMV!).
> Please answer politely.And remember, sometimes its not 'ant, its 'ent'--you
> seem to have trouble retaining what you've learned, I've noticed.


If you want the scoop on Katie Marilyn Vollmer, aka "Katie Dean" do a
google on Steve Brooks and Lazaris. Katie is a well know nut case and
Internet psycho. He seems to know Katie Dean all too well. Brooks
appeared to have threatened legal action against Katie Dean for
harrasement. Katie Dean says Brooks threatened to shoot her. Katie Dean
somehow always manages to bring out the best in a person.

Katie Dean claims Steve Brooks threatened to shoot her.

http://aboutlazarisleaving.tripod.com/id80.html

"So far the only person who doesn't seem bothered in the least is Steve
Brooks, but then, as you told Ali, you don't really have any facts about
him, everything you've heard is just a rumor, so his input is just as
welcomed by you as anyone's.

Even though I told you that Brooks threatened to shoot me. Among other
things I've told you about threats against my personal safety that you
clearly either think I just make up for the fun of it, or that you don't
give a flying fuck about.

Now, most friends would take that in itself as good enough reason to not
stir up some old shit, but it's becoming quite evident Pete, that you
aren't interested in the thoughts or feelings of your friends. . . ."

mirac...@gmail.com

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Jan 16, 2005, 9:02:34 PM1/16/05
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Marilynvollmer wrote:

Another John Clone - WOW... You are getting around these days John-boy!
LOLOLOL

BWHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--
Robin
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Richard

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Jan 16, 2005, 9:02:39 PM1/16/05
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>If you want the scoop on Katie Marilyn Vollmer, aka "Katie Dean" do a
>google on Steve Brooks

I believe Steve has posted here before and, if my memory serves me
correctly, he didn't seem to be any more stable than Marilyn. I don't
know that I'd put too much stock in anything either of them says.

Richard

J.

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Jan 16, 2005, 9:12:54 PM1/16/05
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ROTFLMAO. I guess if Katie says he's threatening to shoot her and Steve
Brooks says she's lying, one might come to the conclusion they are both
a bit unstable. Nevertheless, Steve Brooks seems to know where the
bodies are buried by Katie Dean. Most likely he'll be willing to spill
his guts.

Marilynvollmer

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Jan 16, 2005, 9:45:07 PM1/16/05
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I wrote:

>Questions for Katie, Master Katie, Marilyn, Mistress Marilyn, Katie Dean,
>Katie
>Vollmer, Katie Cohen, Marilyn Cohen and, of course, Marilyn Vollme

Sorry, in all the excitement I left out "Marilyn Dean".

Richard

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Jan 16, 2005, 9:53:33 PM1/16/05
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>Sorry, in all the excitement I left out "Marilyn Dean".

Any relation to Jimmy or James?

Richard

Sandman

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Jan 16, 2005, 10:16:19 PM1/16/05
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Richard wrote:

>>Sorry, in all the excitement I left out "Marilyn Dean".
>
> Any relation to Jimmy or James?

Maybe James. She is a treble without a cause.

Marilynvollmer

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Jan 16, 2005, 10:26:30 PM1/16/05
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Richard wrote:>>Sorry, in all the excitement I left out "Marilyn Dean".

>
>Any relation to Jimmy or James?
>
>Richard

A search of the Katie Kronicles indicates there was a "Jimmy", but he was an
uncle with the last name Durante.

mirac...@gmail.com

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Jan 16, 2005, 10:33:15 PM1/16/05
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Marilynvollmer wrote:

There is nothing at all exciting about you believe me! Drab, conceited
and a complete asshole describes you well but exciting - I think not!

--
Robin
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Sheryl Valentine

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Jan 17, 2005, 1:31:20 PM1/17/05
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too funny!

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Sheryl Valentine

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Jan 17, 2005, 1:35:03 PM1/17/05
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I've listened to lazaris's tapes and read his books off and on since my
early 20s. Some of his stuff borders on "magic" as the Course would say,
but his spiritual commentaries on certain issues and his meditations are
fantastic. I've had several life-changing experiences from his
meditations -- even to that of finally picking up and staying with ACIM.
Lazaris is no more a cult than this newsgroup is. Now of course I didn't
follow the guy around like katie/marilyn evidently did -- I simply ordered
his tapes. The way I heard it is that either katie or her husband did
something within the group and was criticized for it --- since then they are
on a vendetta - last year John wrote up something about how to know if a
'teacher" is a true teacher -- or something like that, he was posting it
about wayne of eots fame -- anyway, even katie admitted on the ng at the
time that lazaris fit the description of a true teacher where his followers
did not. Anyway, I think katie/ted got busted on something and so keep
shooting the messenger. Sheryl


J.

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Jan 17, 2005, 1:45:07 PM1/17/05
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Yeah, the cover story does not make much sense. Katie and Ted get
disenchanted with 12 years invested in Lazaris because Penny was
blasting people on a newsgroup? Give me a break! Does Katie/Marilyn
seem like the kind of person who would somehow be offended because
someone blasted people on a newsgroup? Too freakn' funny! That's kindda
like Hannable Lector complaining someone was eating a hamburger.

Power struggle in the Lazaris organization after Penny and her husband's
death. Katie/Marilyn lost. Motive revenge, not disenchantment with
cults. Somehow the Lazarisites have isolated her. So she's here
criticizing what she doesn't understand, out of sheer rage.


>
>

Sheryl Valentine

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Jan 17, 2005, 2:46:55 PM1/17/05
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John wrote: Power struggle in the Lazaris organization after Penny and her

husband's
> death. Katie/Marilyn lost. Motive revenge, not disenchantment with cults.
> Somehow the Lazarisites have isolated her. So she's here criticizing what
> she doesn't understand, out of sheer rage.

sv- I think it was something like that too. Sheryl


J.

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Jan 17, 2005, 3:15:16 PM1/17/05
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Katie Dean signed one of her post, "Katie Dean, AAFF" which is the
French Language Teacher's Association. Steve Brooks indicated he knew
her from California and the Bay Area and described her as a
"Berkley-educated feminist wacko," or something to that effect. As
unlikely as it sounds, this Katie Dean might well be the Katie Dean who
writes for Wired Magazine. The Durham, NC. address might just be Ted
Vollmer's home.


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Sheryl Valentine

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Jan 17, 2005, 3:18:55 PM1/17/05
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JOhn: As


> unlikely as it sounds, this Katie Dean might well be the Katie Dean who
> writes for Wired Magazine. The Durham, NC. address might just be Ted
> Vollmer's home.

sv: I just don't know. I can't imagine katie having a credible job and
behaving the way she does on the internet. I can't imagine that *anyone*
friends, family or co-workers could possibly condone her actions toward
people on the internet. She does not in any way shape or form act like a
professional in any profession. Shery.


J.

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Jan 17, 2005, 3:32:34 PM1/17/05
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Yes, that is very true. On the other hand, Internet journalism most
likely, is not that vulnerable. Some like Steve Brooks has the scoop. If
its the same Katie Dean, I would imagine there would be many people who
would want to log a complaint with Wired Magazine. But then again the
homework would have to be done, so the charge could not be easily dismissed.


>
>

Sheryl Valentine

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Jan 17, 2005, 3:33:55 PM1/17/05
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sv: my guess is that she *wants* to be *that* katie dean. Didn't that one
write an article about cults, or cyberstalking or something? She's probably
katie's alter ego. sheryl

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Sheryl Valentine

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Jan 17, 2005, 3:35:30 PM1/17/05
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sv: to say the least -- the *real* katie dean might be pissed that someone
is using her name and behaving the way katie/marilyn does. Sheryl

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