OT; Calibrations by David Hawkins
ej
hey
this was sent to me by an ex EA guy because master teeacher doesn't
rate so good...LOL...don't know if anyone saw, but if you like Urantian
Hierarchy, you'll probably like this
:-)
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Calibrations by David Hawkins
GOD AS TRANSCENDENT
God, The Creator, The Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth, Maker of All
Things Visible and Invisible, The Supreme, Allah, Shiva, Rama, Brahma,
Vishnu, God of Moses and Abraham All calibrate at Infinity
GOD AS IMMANENT
Purusa, Self, Atman Infinity
Archangels 50,000
OTHER DENOTATIONS OF SPIRITUAL REALITY
Buddha Nature
Allness 1000
Void 980
Native American Great Spirit 850+
Yahweh 460
Jehovah 205
CONTRASTING CALIBRATIONS
Elohim 100
God of the Old Testament 100
Greek Gods 90
Scandinavian Gods 90
Gods of war 90
Pagan gods of Rome 100
Name of God as Om or Aum Negative
Mother/Father God Negative
AVATARS
Jesus Christ, Buddha,
Krishna, Zoroaster 1000
Twelve Apostles 980
John, the Baptist 930
Paul 745 (Saul of Tarsus)
Abraham 850
Moses 910
Mohammed at the time he wrote the
Koran 740
Mohammed later in life (35) 130 (Used the Way of the Sword)
John 70 (Author of Revelations)
WORLD RELIGIONS
Buddhism
Mahayana 960 (Enlightenment of all mankind)
Zen 890
Hinayana 890 (Individual Enlightenment)
Lotus Land Buddhism 740 (Like the Christian Heaven)
Tantric 515 (More occult)
Tibetan 490
Won Bulgyo 405 (Recent)
Christianity
1st Century, "The Way" 980
After Council of Nicea (385 AD) 485 (Something serious happened
here)
College of Cardinals 490
Papacy 570
Coptic 475
Born Again 350
Gnostics 290
Modern Protestantism 510
Christian Science 410 (Less than DH thought)
Modern Catholicism 440 (Recent decisions less than 440)
Jesuit Order 440
Amish 375 (Funny ways)
Quakers 505
Unity 540
Pentecostal 310
Puritans 210 (A little "prissy")
Television Evangelists 205
Church of LDS (Mormons) 390 (Book of Mormon about 500)
Hinduism
Ancient 700
Modern 499
Hari Krishna 460
Subud 470
Sikh 420
Tamil 330
Raja Yoga 485
Janism 495
Islam (Ancient) 700
Islam (Modern) 325
Muslims 205
Judaism (Modern) 530
Shintoism 350
Taoism 500
CONTRASTING CALIBRATIONS
7th Day Adventist 190 (Don't know what their problem is)
Jehovah's Witness 195 (Strange OT thing)
Right Wing Fundamentalist 95
Right Wing Televangelist 90
Urantia 150
Wicca 160
Army of God 110 (Blows up abortion clinics)
Full Moon Gatherings 180 (New Age)
New Ageism 185 (Adolescent)
Qi Gong 195
Shiite Muslim 55
Cults 50-160
Unification Church (Moon) 150
Aum Shinrikyon Cult 85
Heaven's Gate Cult 160
Astara 150
Order of the Solar Temple 155
Fighting Monks 190
Raelians (Claude Vorilhon) 130
Sun Myung Moon (Unification Church) 150
Family Federation for World Peace
Unification (Moon) 155
Catholic Position on Pedophilia 90
Old Testament 190
Book of Revelations (Astral) 70
SPIRITUAL TITLES
Master 700
Saint 700
Lord 1000
Sage 700+
Angels 550+
Archangels 50,000
Enlightenment 600
Teacher of Way to Enlightenment 800
Pope 570+
True Guru 540+
Jivanmukta 745+
Swami 660+
Guru (before 1960's) 540+
CONTRASTING CALIBRATIONS
Guru (after 1960's) 190
Title of Baba 190
(Three popes were, despite the title, under 200)
SCRIPTURES AND TRADITIONAL SPIRITUAL WRITINGS
Bhagavad Gita 910
Vedas 910
Zohar (Judaic) 720
Ramayana 810
Mahabaratta 780
Kabbhala 720
Apocrypha (Roman Catholic Bible) 740
Torah 745
Koran 700
Heart Sutra 780
Lotus Sutra 780
Diamond Sutra 700
Dead Sea Scrolls 650
Gospel of St. Thomas 660
Book of Kells 570 (Illuminated Manuscript in Dublin)
Vedanta 595
KJV Bible (from the Greek) 475
Lamsa Bible (from the Aramaic) 495
Genesis (Lamsa) 660
Psalms (Lamsa) 650
Proverbs (Lamsa) 350
New Testament (KJV) 640
New Testament (minus Revelations) 790
Lamsa Bible (minus OT (except for
Gen, Pslms, Pvbs), minus Rev) 880
Tibetan Book of the Dead 575
San Hedron 240 (At the time of Jesus)
Yoga Sutras, Patanjali 630
A Course In Miracles 600
Book of Mormon 510
SPIRITUAL CONCEPTS
"None get to Heaven but by me (J)" 940
Eye of the I 900
I as Divinity 980/998
I as Allness 990
I as Void/Allness 990
I as the Supreme 1000
Buddha Nature 1000
Justice 380
Justice (as in an "eye for an eye") 375
Theology 460
SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCES
Near Death 520
Satori 585
Enlightenment 600+
Christian Communion 700 (Surprise to DH)
Durga Puja Festival 480
Sweat Lodge Ceremony 560 (It's the intention)
Smudging 520 (Fun thing)
TM 220 (Used as a technique)
Sound of Tibetan Buddhist horns 320
Sakya Skeleton Dance 320
Christmas (Spirit) 538
Samadhi 800
THE FOLLOWING EXPERIENCES ARE ALL "POSITIVE" OR "TRUE:"
Chi Energy, Etheric Body, Reincarnation, Karma, Jesus' 33 miracles,
Jesus miraculously feeding the thousands, The Apostles' miracles,
Speaking in Tongues, Pentecostal Flame, John the Baptist and Jesus were
killed for
revealing the truth.
THE FOLLOWING EXPERIENCES ARE ALL "NEGATIVE" OR "FALSE:"
Ghosts, Haunting, Prophesied End Times, St. Matthew's Prophesied End
Time,
Your own death (one cannot experience one's own physical death (you,
the experiencer (Spirit), have already left)).
CONTRASTING CALIBRATIONS
The Inquisition 35
Transmediumship 190
Channeling 190
Tarot Readings 190
Occult 150
Voodoo 45
Satanism 45
Fortune Telling 60
Devil Worship 25
Black Magic 20
Black Witchcraft 5
"Possession" by Negative Energies 5-60
PRAYERS AND MANTRAS
Lord's Prayer 650
Om 740
Aum 210
Om Nama Shivaya 630
Chanti Chanti Chanti 650
Um Mana Padaeme Hum 700
Gregorian Chant 595
Japa 515
Jesus Prayer 525
Saying the Rosary 515
Prayer of Jabez 310
CONTRASTING CALIBRATIONS
Cursing (Lord's name in vain) 45 (Not swearing)
Damning others to hell 15
Ankh (symbol, occult) 160
Shaktipat Energy 160
OTHER TEACHINGS, SCHOOLS AND SPIRITUAL TRADITIONS
Druids 450
Theosophy 365
Free Masonry 510
Metaphysics 420
Intellectualism 405
Science of Mind 405
I Ching 430
Keys of Enoch 265
Eckankar 230
Fundamentalism 200
Astrology 210
Crystals 210
Numerology 225
Tai Chi 310 (Exercise)
Hatha Yoga 260
Kung Fu 410
Rebirthing 250
Occult 201
White Magik 203
Biofeedback 202
Holographic Breathing 202
EST 400
Shamanism 210-230
Carlos Casteneda 220
Krya Yoga 330
Universalist Church 320
Ethical Culture 350
Qi Gong 240
Wui Den 275
Sedona Releasing Method 490
Soul Midwifery 240
Huna 260
Falum Gong 205
Bashido (Japanese) 200
White Brotherhood 560
Philadelphia Church of God 415 (Publisher of "The Trumpet")
Seth Books 470 (Jane Roberts)
Rosicrucians 405
Knights Templar 435
Reiki 285
Avatar Workshops 245
Bodywork 205 (Physicality is integrous)
Rolfing 205
Sexuality 200+ (Whew! says DH)
CONTRASTING CALIBRATIONS
Scientology 195
Atheism 195
Branch Dividians 195
Devigita (World Mother) 165 (Lots of "mothers")
World Church of the Creator 85 (White supremacists)
Order of the Golden Dawn 60 (Alistair Crowley)
SPIRITUAL TEACHERS, WRITERS AND LEADERS
Plotinus 590
White Brotherhood 560
Mechtild von Magdeburg (13th C.) 640 (German)
Johann Tauber (14th C.) 640 (German)
Huang Po (Zen) 960
Zen Masters 700+
Mahatma Gandhi 760 (Defeated the British Empire)
Mother Theresa 710
Meister Eckhardt 700
Chief Detroit 650
Karmapa 630
Muktananda 750
Vivekenanda 610
Ramakrishna 620
Rabbi Moses de Leon (14th C.) 720 (Of Grenada)
Nisargadatta Maharaj 720
Ramana Maharshi 720
Ramesh Balsekar 760
Confucius 590
St. Patrick 590
Wallace Black Elk (Lakota) 499
John Calvin 580
John Wesley 360
Martin Luther 580
Dalai Lama 570 (Current)
Maharishi (TM) 410
Swami Ramdas 570
Robert Powell 525
Joel Goldsmith 455
Poonja, HWL 370 (Papaji)
Charles Fillmore 485
Padmasambhava (Babuji) 595 (Founder of Tibetan Buddhism)
Swami Satchidananda 605
Maher Baba 240
OT Prophets 202 (Bit of a surprise)
Alice Bailey (Intermediary) 445 (For the White Brotherhood)
Vernon Howard 455
Patanjali 660
Peter Ouspensky 335
Robert Schuller 405
Mother Meera 240
Nostradamus 220 (Had a "talent")
Martin Buber 405
St. Thomas Aquinas 435
Tertullian 385
St. Bonaventure 385
Thich Naht Hanh 460
Yogananda 540
Lao Tzu 520
Alan Watts 485
John Blofeld 465 (On Taoism)
Poonja-Ji 520 (Nothing Happened)
Thubten Yeshe 465 (Silent Mind)
Bernadette Roberts 445 (Experience of No-Self)
Trungpa Chogyam 499
Ram Dass 425
CW Leadbeater 485
John Bradshaw 460 (Books on "recovery")
Scott Peck 475
Gangaji 475
Joseph Smith 510 (Founder of Mormonism.)
Emmet Fox 470 (Sermon on the Mount)
Thomas Merton 510 (New Seeds of Contemplation)
Rudolf Steiner 365/475 (At different times)
Robert Monroe 510 (Journeys Out of the Body)
Father Pio 585 (Bilocator)
Richard M. Bucke, MD 505 (Cosmic Consciousness)
Raymond Moody 425 (Life After Life)
Nathaniel Brandon 420 (Breaking Free)
Ayn Rand 400+
CS Lewis 390
"Lightworkers" 215
Bunch of Eastern guys 200-300
Joseph Campbell 410
Christianmind.org 220 (Website)
Ashram of Enlightenment 205 (Guruji Grace Love)
Bernie Glassman Roshi 455
Krishnamurti, J. 480 (The Meditative Mind)
The Carnegie Endowment for Peace 355
CONTRASTING CALIBRATIONS
New Age Shamanism 195
Fatalism 110
Secularism 195
Accidentalism 125
Mechanistic Reductionism 170
Atheism 185
Agnosticism 195
Dianetics 195
Madeline Murray 95 (Got prayer out of public schools)
*Self-proclaimed Master Teacher 165 (of A Course In Miracles)
MUFON 155 (Mutual UFO Network)
OSHO (formerly Rajneesh) 90
Colonics 195
Anti-US Corporation Movement 195
Telephone Psychics 95
New Age Shamanism 195
PLACES OF SPIRITUAL INTEREST
Westminster Abbey 790
Chartres Cathedral 790
Cathedral of Notre Dame 790
Great Buddha of Kyoto 780
Taj Mahal 750
El Hambra 720
Basilica of St. Peter (Rome) 710
Chapel of the Holy Cross (Sedona) 565
Ganges River 560
Stonehenge 599
The Vatican 570
Pieta 590
Anghor Watt 550
Lourdes 510
Pyramids of Egypt 520
The Sphinx 520
Great Buddha 555 (Blown up in Afghanistan)
St. Patrick's Cathedral (NYC) 530
Cathedral of St. John the Divine(NYC) 530
Washington National Cathedral 530
Aranachula 500 (Ramana Maharshi)
Macchu Pichu 510
The Great Temple at Karnak 415
Crystal Cathedral (LA) 410
Llasa (Tibet) 320
Mecca 205
Medina 225
Mt. Everest 460
Relics of the Christian Saints 750
Shinto Shrine 650
Tibetan Buddhist Stupa (Sedona) 640
Relics of Buddha 905
Relics of St. Peter 910 (Basilica in Rome)
CONTRASTING CALIBRATIONS
Shroud of Turin is true No
Crop circles due to extraterrestrials No
Crop circles are human product Yes
Area 51 in Nevada 201
Easter Island 70
Bethlehem 70 (Current)
Jerusalem 100 ( " )
The Holy Lands 70 ( " )
Israel 190 ( " )
Palestine 185 ( " )
Playground in Central Park (NYC) 400
US Court ruling "Under God" violates
1st Amendment No (185)
This last bit was on the tape. I couldn't quite figure out where to
put it (from my notes) but I wanted to be sure to include it.
-- Name and form are one
-- Wait three days before burial or cremation of the body after
physical death
-- A human can actually live on prana energy
-- There is a saint who lived in Germany strictly on prana energy
-- The consciousness level of a person is already set at birth
-- The exact time of "death," leaving the physical body, is
karmically set at
birth
Richard A. Thayer
ej wrote:
> hey
> this was sent to me by an ex EA guy because master teeacher doesn't
> rate so good...LOL...don't know if anyone saw, but if you like Urantian
> Hierarchy, you'll probably like this
Did you cut and paste, or type that
out stroke by stroke? The glib philosopher! LOL
I've got a nice blue book , Biblical type
paper quality, with a pretty gold
bookmark here.. I can touch and feel it. mmmm. ;-)
I like the idea of the Heirarchy, nevertheless..
Baffling and mind boggling but also indicative
of the Urantia idea that eternity contains
constant expansion and progression.
After all,
whoever really is satisfied with the first
dinky level that mankind has come up with
of H E A V E N? Some of us have never fallen
for "just that"..
Out of context,ej, this lays an egg.
These kind of numeric explanations
don't move me.. even in context, anyway.
But I do vibe WITH the many other word
elements
of the Unrantian Heirarchy..
and so "they" speak to me in a totally different
way .
Sound vibration , numbers, calibrations
under headings of known human words, are
still but frames.. as is the Urantia book.
All of us are limited by
language.. to translate what we "feel"
and "grasp".. of the far grander Universe
The usefulness of this?
For a certain kind of autistic mind,
numbers such as this might be 10 times
more zingy than 3 pretty words.
God embraces variety..
LINDA T
Martin Weber-C.
Did Hawkins channel the figures?
What is the scale? 0=?, 1000=?
Did he use a pendulum?
Why didn't he list the anti-christ
or satanism or paganism?
thanks, maz
"ej" <ejs22...@yahoo.com.au> schreef in bericht
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ej
don't move me..
lol did the post write itself then
;-)
ej
yes/no test or an above/below a number. He has a whole scale of levels
of consciousness which these numbers are from.
It takes two people to do a calibration and both must calibrate above
200 to get a valid reading. One person stands with one arm held firmly
straight out to the side parallel to the floor, the other asks a
question and tries to push down on the arm. if the statement is true
the arm can't be pushed down, if it's false the arm can't be held firm.
he says that doing it this way eliminates thinking as a factor.
I think that these are answers to peoples particlar questions in a
session, and not a definitve all encompasing statement on the hstory of
religion.
ej
Richard A. Thayer
Give that guy a point and be fair-er
to all. ( and personally
note that the being called ej will not
be one-upped too handily ) LOL
OK.
EJ's copy/paste
postings of the numeric explanations of
Hawkins focus, somehow related to the
book called Urantia Book,
became my temporary focus when I also
energized my pre-decision to write something
today about that same Urantia book..on Monday,
June 27 2005.
LINDA T
>
ej
postings of the numeric explanations of
Hawkins focus, somehow related to the
book called Urantia Book,
became my temporary focus when I also
energized my pre-decision to write something
today about that same Urantia book..on Monday,
June 27 2005.
I wondered why i was posting it
;-)
Richard A. Thayer
Me too, until I grabbed it. &-)
First rule in the handbook of
Universal Flyers:
expect falling space
debris when "out there" :-)
also
Paraphrased by Perry Como ,
singer popular in the US in
1950-- in a catchy ditty called
"Catch a Falling Star"
Swissssssh!
LINDA T
>
Nancy
Hawkins. Could you give a little background info, please?
Are they from a book?
Nancy
Naggin'
answers. It's his contention that the mind/body
knows the truth, & the strength of the resistence
during muscle testing determines what level it
calibrates with. The scale is 0 to 1,000. It's an
intesting read "Power Vs. Force", but I don't
think his stuff stands up. Bright guy, though.
ej
I read the last book first. His stuff stands up in parts, like anything
else that comes from a "true" enlightenment expreince and then gets
formulated into some kind of established "truth". I don't think the
calibration/kinesiology stands up. His concepts and exercises of
recontextualization is good stuff though.
anyway the point of my friend sending it to me was to show me that the
old man at EA got beat ot by colonics 190 to 165. The course stands at
600, the exect point between unenlightened and enlightend. And he
equates Christian "Heaven' to the Buddhist Lotus or Pure Land
Over 200 is in the positive range, 400 unconditional love(which
interstingly is what he rates AA as a group), 600 is enlightened, over
a 1000 is outside of human possibility. jesus buddha krishna and
zoroaster all top out euqaly at 1000
cheers guys
Martin Weber-C.
"Naggin'" <k...@wired.net> schreef in bericht
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> The dude uses kinesiology to muscle test for the
> answers. It's his contention that the mind/body
> knows the truth, & the strength of the resistence
> during muscle testing determines what level it
> calibrates with. The scale is 0 to 1,000. It's an
> intesting read "Power Vs. Force", but I don't
> think his stuff stands up. Bright guy, though.
>
Well, kinesiology only makes sense to me if the
body is totally left to the Holy Spirit's interpretation and use.
So its not mind/body knowing, it is HS functioning through it.
(to me)
I have been training kinesiology in the form of giving my
body parts (head/arm) away, so to speak, as pendulum. I really do not
control the movements, and it is a perfect way to communicate
with the Holy Spirit, joined with inspiration.
It is true, though, that one can bypass the ego with this.
But it needs training and vigilance at some point to work
in service of others as well.
We should all play with this more! :-)
oneLove, maz
A
> yeah Allen
> I read the last book first. His stuff stands up in parts, like anything
> else that comes from a "true" enlightenment expreince and then gets
> formulated into some kind of established "truth". I don't think the
> calibration/kinesiology stands up. His concepts and exercises of
> recontextualization is good stuff though.
I've got all three books, but I've only
read "Power Vs Force" all the way. Your
take is pretty much the same as mine. I
think the guy's got something, but like
you said, it's "formulating truth" that
seems to mess guys up most of the time.
> anyway the point of my friend sending it to me was to show me that the
> old man at EA got beat ot by colonics 190 to 165.
LOL! I would think they would be equal.
> The course stands at
> 600, the exect point between unenlightened and enlightend.
I thought 500's the exact point between
between the two? At any rate, bullshit.
> And he
> equates Christian "Heaven' to the Buddhist Lotus or Pure Land
> Over 200 is in the positive range, 400 unconditional love(which
> interstingly is what he rates AA as a group), 600 is enlightened, over
> a 1000 is outside of human possibility. jesus buddha krishna and
> zoroaster all top out euqaly at 1000
> cheers guys
Like many things interesting stuff, but
best mainly taken with a grain of salt.
A
> "Naggin'" <k...@wired.net> schreef in bericht
> news:vcidnVB8EPS...@adelphia.com...
>
>>The dude uses kinesiology to muscle test for the
>>answers. It's his contention that the mind/body
>>knows the truth, & the strength of the resistence
>>during muscle testing determines what level it
>>calibrates with. The scale is 0 to 1,000. It's an
>>intesting read "Power Vs. Force", but I don't
>>think his stuff stands up. Bright guy, though.
>
> Well, kinesiology only makes sense to me if the
> body is totally left to the Holy Spirit's interpretation and use.
>
> So its not mind/body knowing, it is HS functioning through it.
> (to me)
>
> I have been training kinesiology in the form of giving my
> body parts (head/arm) away, so to speak, as pendulum. I really do not
> control the movements, and it is a perfect way to communicate
> with the Holy Spirit, joined with inspiration.
>
> It is true, though, that one can bypass the ego with this.
> But it needs training and vigilance at some point to work
> in service of others as well.
>
> We should all play with this more! :-)
Yeah, I think kinesiology has merit, I just
wouldn't trust it for discerning absolute
truth. The problem is the vessel. A person
being muscle tested, as well as the one who
does the testing, has preconceived notions
about various topics. I don't know that one
can keep human error out of the equation.
[snip]
Martin Weber-C.
"A" <a...@knowspam.net> schreef in bericht
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Motivation is key-note here, I guess. :-)
We can try a little test! You focus on an issue
or topic of relevance for you. Keep it for you.
My only motivation is solely being of help,
being the messenger of a passage of the Course
that corresponds with this. I will use kinesiology
to receive HS's suggestion and send you the results.
OK? The only error that can occur is in your mind
when connecting the dots. On my side error is impossible.
LOL!
"No-one can see THROUGH a wall, but I can step around it. "
oneLove, maz
Jl2...@netzero.com
something about raging against the dying of light. Dylan Thomas had
some of that too.
starchil...@hotmail.com
or not.
But it also could be the power of suggestion.
Wayne Dyer tells about doing it with his teenage son, having him hold
an apple (or some fruit) which is positive and then holding a heavy
metal CD the kid was listening to- which is (he proved) negative
energy.
Seems like it would be whatever anyone believed it to be.
~ Carrie
Richard A. Thayer
starch...@yahoo.com wrote:
The single most lead weight theory is the last line
of your post.. LOL
By now it's become a tiresome
T H U D
But, back to your small offering..
In the categories of good and bad, of course
belief rules.
In the categories of the energy movement
expressed or not expressed
that opens up a wider base of actual
experience.. more diverse measurements.
You've only read of it then?
Not experienced anything like it anywhere
else, any where? In no time in your life?
I bet!
LINDA T
Richard A. Thayer
Jl2...@netzero.com wrote:
> Gee, Linda. Did you see the high rating for John the Baptist?
Did you doubt?
On the Hawkins chart?
No I didn't look at them all.
He (john the b) still gets decent press, then.
Imagine that.
I should post you some from the Urantia book ..
john the b rates his own chapter with 12
subheadings in detail.
Must be
> something about raging against the dying of light.
(that brought a chuckle)
nowadays it might be called
fanning flames in case fire dies
Dylan Thomas had
> some of that too.
As in.............?
Come on, a little chunk ' o the literature
offered, too, would be fun..
,,,,,,,,,..........................
LINDA T
Martin Weber-C.
can keep human error out of the equation.
U *want* to know?
sonja....@gmail.com
Mohammed later in life (35) 130 (Used the Way of the Sword)
