For the most part Chucky has re-invented the English language and this
along with his flowery descriptiveness make following his lines of
logic difficult at best. His inner-circle attribute awesome powers to
these video teachings, as Glad, (The Administrator of Endeavor Academy
(EA)) once said to me very seriously, "Watching the Master's videos as
a group with the Master Teacher himself present, imbues them (the
videos) with Light." Also when one questions the logic of what Chucky
actually says on these tapes one is told that, "It is not what he is
saying that is important it is the experience of being in his
presence."
I met Chucky about 7 or 8 years ago, I had recently returned home to
Byron Bay Australia, after traveling in Asia where I had been
re-inspired by A Course in Miracles. In India at my then teacher
Osho's Ashram though still open and functioning it was not really
doing it for me. Osho had left his body and his Ashram did not reflect
his teachings as I has expected that it would so I has set out to
travel and enjoy the experience of Asia. Even then I loved the Course
and it in no way conflicted with the teachings of Master Osho so I had
been reading it and talking with my friends and traveling companions
about it. Arriving home in Australia I attended an ACIM event, there
I saw Chucky for the first time. He blew my mind, he was talking about
concepts that I was reading about in the Course, he obviously
understood the teaching and though I found it difficult to follow
everything he was saying, I was hooked.
I traveled to the United States to Endeavor Academy to spend more time
with this teacher, it paid off, I really did find my true Self during
the time I spent with him. I've never quite been sure whether he
intentionally showed me or whether it was simply the result of
spending so many years attempting to understand him; when I say that
I'm talking literally, Chucky is not a very complex bloke, it wasn't
that, I just couldn't understand what the hell he was talking about a
lot of the time. I could not believe (as many of his devotees implied)
that there was anything that mystical about him or for that matter in
what he said, I'm sure I would have latched onto it if it had been
that I've read most of the great spiritual texts and as mystical as
they get I can grasp most of them. This article continues here:
http://www.originalwebsites.com/mexico/endeavor_academy.htm
God Bless you ALL!
Bodhi
May you continue to know the love you
are and grow in a deeper awareness of
how much God loves you.
Kay
They may have been given new names when they joined.
I know someone who had friends go there (when it was God's Country Place)
and never heard from them again. She later learned they had different names
and weren't associating with the outside world anymore.
~ Carrie
How many of them are there, anyway?
> and that he will, when he leaves this world, take his inner-circle
> with him. That is what members of his inner-circle say about him, they
> are totally convinced that it is true and they are daily preparing
> themselves for the time when he will ascend into heaven taking them
> with him.
David Koresh. Jim Jones. David Koresh. Jim Jones. David
Koresh. Jim Jones. He may certainly take them him with alright,
straight to Davy Jones locker.
To this end the devotees of Chucky sit daily (7 days a week)
> in a most uncomfortable room (without air conditioning) with him and
> watch an endless stream of videos that portray Chucky himself teaching
> from various texts, The Bible, A Course in Miracles (ACIM,) and
> certain scientific journals that inspire him.
>
> For the most part Chucky has re-invented the English language and this
> along with his flowery descriptiveness make following his lines of
> logic difficult at best. His inner-circle attribute awesome powers to
> these video teachings, as Glad, (The Administrator of Endeavor Academy
> (EA)) once said to me very seriously, "Watching the Master's videos as
> a group with the Master Teacher
Sixties book 'If you Meet the Buddha On the Road Kill Him'
himself present, imbues them (the
> videos) with Light." Also when one questions the logic of what Chucky
> actually says on these tapes one is told that, "It is not what he is
> saying that is important it is the experience of being in his
> presence."
>
> I met Chucky about 7 or 8 years ago, I had recently returned home to
> Byron Bay Australia, after traveling in Asia where I had been
> re-inspired by A Course in Miracles. In India at my then teacher
> Osho's Ashram though still open and functioning it was not really
> doing it for me. Osho had left his body
He died.
I am glad you got out of there. Hopefully you can help others do
the same thing.
Does Raj know this?
He claims to be Jesus, too.
Since we are all One (in Truth) seems like we'd all be Jesus.
~ Carrie
Bodhi
We are, and that's exactly why there can't be such a thing a 'master
teacher'. I know for sure, Jesus would never call himself a 'master teacher'
whilst on earth.
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> Bodhi
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uh huh!!! you're proposing the same thing Master Teacher did:
external guidance....!!!!!!!!
humans HAVE NOT learned from the Jim Jones' and Koresh's experiences.
What does it make you believe Bodhi's will teach the lesson about not
depending on EXTERNAL guidance...???????????
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Yes Paul thats the reason for the site, people are reading it now
which is great! Thank you for your good wishes.
Bodhi
I'm sorry Kay I don't know those people though I was in the Cult for 7
or 8 years, as Carrie says Chucky often changes peoples names and I
never realized just why he did that before but this makes it clearer.
If you want to keep your victims, change their names, it will be
harder for friends and relatives to track them...
You have no idea what extraordinary lengths Chucky goes to, to A.)
Stop anyone advancing beyond him, and B.) Keep his disciples inside
the cult.
I'm starting to wake up to the whole ugly mess now!
I will be writing much more about this on my web-site at:
http://www.originalwebsites.com/mexico/1.htm
Thank you for your kind words Kay..
Bodhi
Did you know someone named "Seth"?
He used to write on marianne.com and sign it "I am Seth, what can I do for
you?"
He said he had walked in and MT said to him "you are Seth" (which hadn't
been his name). So, from then on he was.
I once emailed him and said "what you can do for me is to be yourself,
whatever and however you are and not try and play spiritual and like E.A. is
something special and not of this world" (something like that). I never saw
him post again.
I think changing a name creates a new identity, and the person is supposed
to forget about their old worldly one.
Do you know why Marianne closed the boards? There were rumors going
around, then a year later I read that it was because of E.A. people taking
over the ACIM topic, and harrassing her at her talks (and then joking about
it on her boards). I usually stayed on GEN DIS so hadn't seen that. There
was also the story that her being a minister (at that time) of the Unity
Church in MI she didn't want to be associated with what was considered a
cult.
I know you used to post on the board so thought you might know. Like if
people tried to harrass her and get the boards closed for some reason.
Speaking of Marianne, I've been listening to the tape set of her book
EVERYDAY GRACE which is very good. I think I'm going to listen to it over
and over and over. Maybe till it sinks in. It's ACIM but also involves how
to "live it" in the world.
Like saying that even if we don't have an actual job, we are still working
for God. Shining light and illuminating the world.
No matter what seems to be going on in our lives, to stay connected.
~ Carrie
Just a hope, Yasha. Just a hope.
Did Marianne give up misistry at that MI Unity? I was to her church to
attend a workshop of Neale Walsch.
~Deborah
About a year ago (maybe longer, time goes by so fast now) there were
articles in the paper (someone I know who lives in Traverse City MI knows I
know MW and sent me one from the Detroit Free Press, and there were others)
about how she was being "let go" as a Minister there. Even though attendance
at the church had gone way up. Some of the old timers (at the church)
thought she was way to new age-radical or something. Though Unity seems to
be pretty open and flexible compared to a lot.
She may still be doing workshops there, and last I knew she has a home
there (also CA). Her daughter must be a teenager by now. At the time she
took the job, she didn't want to raise her in L.A. (or so I heard). But, she
has been going to a private school.
I've been listening to MW's tapes of EVERYDAY GRACE and it's wonderful.
She has a way of combining spiritual with "in the world" which is really
what we have to do, since we're (apparently) choosing to be here (LOL)
~ Carrie
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> ~Deborah
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But, it's like drugs and drug sellers, supply and demand.
If people didn't want and feel need of leaders and Master Teachers,
none would be created.
And maybe these teachers, overall, are teaching people they don't NEED
external teachers?
~ Carrie
Do you remember Marianne's boards?
And what happened that they closed?
I know, it's past and over and done, there were just so many stories about
it, I've always wondered just what did happen, and why.
It wasn't that they were rough and people said what they wanted, because
(I was told) that's the way they'd been for the years before I came along.
I still think of those boards, and the people on them in a kind of sad,
bittersweet way. It was like family.
I remember some of the E.A. people, too (besides you). I think one later
died of AIDs. Willem?
Charles was another (not Chuck) Willem used to follow people around
saying "there is no world!" (so why was he in it following people around?).
I still have a box of old floppies, some work, some done. With posts I
saved from there. Most of them ones I wanted to remember, well written,
making good points, etc.
"The wisdom of marianne.com".
Remember Anubis? He was such a good writer. He's now earning a good
living with writing (off boards).
One post he wrote about being on those boards, about how it was rough
and people got mad and called each other names, etc.etc. He had his heart
broke there. But every now and then some connected,. and that's what kept
everyone coming there. And made it all worthwhile.
Could be said about this ng, too.
~ Carrie
That's because everything here is upside down. And so a term such as
"Master Teacher" really means - "Master Learner."
LOL ~ Happydreamin
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yeah very yeah, it's why I said: gurus will screw their followers up until
their followers learn to hear from the Inner Teacher....!!!!
Ped
good point....!!!!!!!!!!!!! although Joe will get upset cuz he believes Ken
is the Most Great Course Teacher.
LOLOOLOLOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!
Ped
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> > And maybe these teachers, overall, are teaching people they don't
NEED
> >external teachers?
> > ~ Carrie
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> yeah very yeah, it's why I said: gurus will screw their followers up until
> their followers learn to hear from the Inner Teacher....!!!!
>
> Ped'
I think there are teachers who steer the student in that direction.
Like the goal being to no longer need the (outer) teacher.
~ Carrie
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It's my experience that I set endeavor academy and the people who
attended and the heirarchy, MT, inner circle etc... those who know/those
who don't know/ awakened ones/sleeping ones, inferior/superior ones,
loving ones/unloving ones, helpful ones/unhelpful ones up as an idol and
an intense reflection of what I've always done in my world using the
dualistic egoic thought system I've been utilising. And there was such
intense conflict going on in my mind because there was such a strong
call to love and attraction to that occuring while my fear of love and
guilt about anything I could come up with was equally intensified.
Basically it was an intense model of the world I've always made up with
an authority figure I've set up as the one who knows and everything else
heading towards that and me looking towards 'it' for the love,
recognition, attention, happiness and wholeness I craved and felt
deprived of. It and many of it's players and really all of it as it was
a representation of the world in which I have sought to get love, failed
me once again.
In a round about way it has served it's purpose in helping me find my
way home by forcing me to look within and have my painful misperceptions
be undone. What I saw 'out there' in many of EA students and teachers
or what I imagined they had and I didn't, I wanted for myself - I wanted
the freedom of mind to remember who I was - I wanted a mind so trained
it could hear nothing but the voice for God - I wanted the purity of joy
and happiness I saw in many radiant faces and I wanted the knowledge and
sight that was unlimited and free that I saw in some of the guys there
- I wanted to have and be as dedicated and devoted that I would give
anything and everything I was asked for freely that I saw in the guys
there. I wanted the buoancy of spirit and certainty that came with
knowing God and knowing I was one with Him that I saw many demonstrating
there. I wanted the certainty of knowing I am as God created me and I'm
not what I think I am. EA as I see it is still part of the world I made
and my appreciation and gratitude for the part it has played in my
transformation will flood my mind with peace and joy as I relinquish the
grievance I've held about it and it's players for failing to deliver
what I thought it should.
I'm pretty sure that's all they were teaching me. Whether I heard it or
not because of my own poor perceptions held about myself or wanted to
let go of my idols is another matter.
That's so true and that has nothing to do with the 'guru' but the
follower - me - being afraid to claim my own inheritance and divinity -
saying yes I want it with one hand and pushing it away with the next.
That's a great way of looking at it!!!!