Happy Palindrome Day!

DharmaTroll

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Jan 2, 2010, 9:29:56 PM1/2/10

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http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-palindrome2-2010jan02,0,6788304.story
There's something backward about this date: 01-02-2010 can be read the
same way in both directions. One math geek's really got its number.

Some people are into cars. Some people dig the ocean. Aziz Inan, a
professor of electrical engineering at the University of Portland in
Oregon, loves numbers.

"I can relate to them," Inan said. "Each number has its own
personality."

With this adoration in mind, consider today, Jan. 2, 2010. The day is
a palindromic date, meaning the number can be read the same way in
either direction: 01-02-2010.

There will be 12 palindromic days this century, Inan said, and today
is the second. The first was 10-02-2001. (His complete list is here.)

A native of Istanbul, Inan creates math puzzles in his spare time. So
it was a big day when he looked closely at his own name and saw a
pattern. His first and last names are both vowel-consonant-vowel-same
consonant -- and, if you write the names in all caps, switch the
vowels and turn one set of consonants 90 degrees, both names are the
same.

"I jumped in my chair," he said of the day two years ago when the
connection hit him. "My parents had no idea."

Despite Inan's excitement about numbers, he dismisses the notion that
mysticism and magic are connected to such dates.

He doesn't, for example, fear Dec. 21, 2012, the date the Mayan "Long
Count" calendar marks as the end of a 5,126-year era. Some folks think
the date portends a revolution or an apocalypse.

Jan. 2, 2010, and Dec. 21, 2012, he said, just happen to be really
cool dates.

norbu_tragri

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Jan 3, 2010, 5:06:38 AM1/3/10

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On Jan 2, 6:29 pm, DharmaTroll <dharmatr...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-palindrome2-2010ja...

Are we not drawn onward, we few, drawn onward to new era?

T. Eliot, top bard, notes putrid tang emanating, is sad. I'd assign it
a name: 'Gnat dirt upset on drab pot toilet'.

Swap God for a janitor, rot in a jar of dog paws.

Was it a car or a cat I saw?

Flee to me, remote elf.

Go Hang a Salami, I'm a Lasagna Hog!

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and then there's this:

111,111,111 * 111,111,111 = 12345678987654321

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Beerlet Dhiblang

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Jan 3, 2010, 5:52:38 AM1/3/10

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Able was I ere I saw Elba. -- Napolean Bonaparte

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DharmaTroll

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Jan 3, 2010, 5:56:41 AM1/3/10

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On Jan 3, 5:06 am, norbu_tragri <norbu.tra...@gmail.com> wrote:

Cute. But have you heard Weird Al's palindrome song "Bob", the title
of which is not only a tribute to Bob Dylan (Al is imitating Dylan's
voice and style in the song) but also a palindrome itself? It's
hilarious if you haven't heard it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nej4xJe4Tdg

"Bob":
I, man, am regal a German am I
Never odd or even
If I had a hi-fi
Madam, I'm Adam
Too hot to hoot
No lemons, no melon
Too bad I hid a boot
Lisa Bonet ate no basil
Warsaw was raw

Was it a car or a cat I saw?

Rise to vote, sir
Do geese see God?
"Do nine men interpret?" "Nine men," I nod
Rats live on no evil star
Won't lovers revolt now?
Race fast, safe car
Pa's a sap
Ma is as selfless as I am
May a moody baby doom a yam?

Ah Satan sees Natasha
No devil lived on
Lonely Tylenol
Not a banana baton
No "x" in "Nixon"
O, stone, be not so
O Geronimo, no minor ego
"Naomi", I moan
"A Toyota's a Toyota"
A dog, a panic in a pagoda

Oh, no! Don Ho!
Nurse, I spy gypsies -- run!
Senile felines
Now I see bees I won
UFO tofu
We panic in a pew
Oozy rat in a sanitary zoo
God! A red nugget! A fat egg under a dog!
Go hang a salami, I'm a lasagna hog

--DharmaTroll

Charles E Hardwidge

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Jan 3, 2010, 2:18:12 PM1/3/10

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"DharmaTroll" <dharm...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:242ae183-c59f-4a3f...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...

> He doesn't, for example, fear Dec. 21, 2012, the date the Mayan "Long
> Count" calendar marks as the end of a 5,126-year era. Some folks think
> the date portends a revolution or an apocalypse.

I read some crap that said the 2012 date had been calculated wrong, or the
Mayan's saw it as a cycle, or something. EPIC FAIL for the nutjobs.

--
Charles E Hardwidge

Wally Chapman

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Jan 3, 2010, 6:53:17 PM1/3/10

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Well, in light of the exhausting research that you struggled through, I
will certainly take your views into consideration.

Wally

zenworm

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:49:04 PM1/3/10

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On Jan 3, 6:53 pm, Wally Chapman <shelsh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Charles E Hardwidge wrote:

> > "DharmaTroll" <dharmatr...@my-deja.com> wrote in message

and failing that?

^worm

Wilson

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Jan 3, 2010, 10:33:20 PM1/3/10

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"zenworm" <zens...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Anyone who listened to the music of Rush in the 1970s knows that the
real action doesn't start until 2112.

--
Wilson
http://puddinheadwilson.tumblr.com/

zenworm

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Jan 3, 2010, 11:03:18 PM1/3/10

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On Jan 3, 10:33 pm, "Wilson" <Wil...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> "zenworm" <zensp...@gmail.com> wrote in message

for those about to rock...

are those rocks peopling?

^worm

norbu_tragri

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:20:42 AM1/4/10

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Thnx. :)

Palindromes can be made of whole words as well, or ideas, etc.
They Might Be Giants took that avenue in their song "I Palindrome I"
("I" being very brief palindrome)...

it seems to have started off as a whole word palindrome:

"Son I am able," she said "though you scare me."
"Watch," said I
"Beloved," I said "watch me scare you though." said she,
"Able am I, Son."

and then they built up the story of birth and death from that
with the Ouroboros thrown in...:

Someday mother will die and I'll get the money
Mom leans down and says, "My sentiments exactly,
You son of a bitch"
I palindrome I (I palindrome I)
I palindrome I (I palindrome I)
And I am a snake head eating (snake head)
The head on the opposite side (snake head)
I palindrome I (manonam)
I palindrome I (manonam)

See that bulletproof dress hanging from the clothesline
See the medical chart with the random zig-zag
Now I'll help it decide
I palindrome I (I palindrome I)
I palindrome I (I palindrome I)
And I am a snake head eating (snake head)
The head on the opposite side (snake head)
I palindrome I (manonam)
I palindrome I (manonam)
I palindrome I (manonam)
I palindrome I (manonam)

"Son I am able," she said "though you scare me."
"Watch," said I
"Beloved," I said "watch me scare you though." said she,
"Able am I, Son."

See the spring of the grandfather clock unwinding
(Egad, a base tone denotes a bad age)
See the hands of my offspring making windmills
(Egad, a base tone denotes a bad age)
Dad palindrome Dad
I palindrome I (I palindrome I)
I palindrome I (I palindrome I)
And I am a snake head eating (snake head)
The head on the opposite side (snake head)
I palindrome I (manonam)
I palindrome I (manonam)
I palindrome I (manonam)
I palindrome I (manonam)

(various versions on youtube, this simple one is cool:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB4bnDKPSX8

a palindrome i found recently is rather haunting (ties in w the
Ouroboros):

Dr Awkward

- n.

DT

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Jan 4, 2010, 10:48:23 AM1/4/10

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Dude, if you can't trust somebody you've never met who read some crap
some where some time, who *can* you trust?

Dan Piraro?

http://i46.tinypic.com/25k26xd.gif

DT
(It's what I've been saying all along. I mean, what if a Mayan had got
ahold of *my* calendar last year, and went "OMFG, time ends on Dec. 31!"?)

DT

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Jan 4, 2010, 10:55:06 AM1/4/10

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I still want to know why the word "palindrome" isn't a palindrome.

And don't get me started on "monosyllabic"...

DT

norbu_tragri

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Jan 5, 2010, 3:16:22 AM1/5/10

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"Why" is easy:

palindrome
"a line that reads the same backward and forward," c.1629, from
Gk. palindromos "a recurrence," lit. "a running back," from palin
"again, back" (from PIE base *kwel- "move round," with notion of
"revolving; see cycle) + dromos "a running."

On the other paw - (a conceptual palindrome) the middle of a word is
the divider, and a word that mirrors at the divider is a "redivider" -
and "redivider" is the longest single word palindrome in English.
(ignore that "re-divider" spelling....)

>
> And don't get me started on "monosyllabic"...

The concept of "one" only exists in dependence on the concept of "two,
three, etc"...

And while two wrongs may not make a right, three affirmation make a
negation:

Teacher: (disagreeing with the above) Three affirmations do not make a
negation!

Student: (waves bored hand) Yeah, yeah, yeah ....

>
> DT

liaM

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Jan 5, 2010, 5:22:28 AM1/5/10

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CEREP SEGROEG

Trace l'inï¿½gal palindrome. Neige. Bagatelle, dira Hercule. Le brut
repentir, cet ï¿½crit nï¿½ Perec. L'arc lu pï¿½se trop, lis ï¿½ vice-versa.
Perte. Cerise d'une vï¿½ritï¿½ banale, le Malstrom, Alep, mort ï¿½dulcorï¿½,
crï¿½pe portï¿½ de ce dï¿½sir brisï¿½ d'un iota. Livre si aboli, tes sacres ont
ï¿½reintï¿½, cor cruel, nos albatros. ï¿½tre las, autel bï¿½ti, miette
vice-versa du jeu que fit, nacrï¿½, mï¿½dical, le sï¿½lï¿½nite relaps, ellipsoï¿½dal.
Ivre il bat, la turbine bat, l'isolï¿½ me ravale : le verre si obï¿½i du
Pernod -- eh, port su ! -- obsï¿½dante sonate teintï¿½e d'ivresse.
Ce rï¿½ve se mit -- peste ! -- ï¿½ blaguer. Beh ! L'art sec n'a si peu
qu'algï¿½bre s'ï¿½labore de l'or ï¿½valuï¿½. Idiome ï¿½tirï¿½, hï¿½site, bï¿½tard
repliï¿½, l'os nu. Si, ï¿½ la gï¿½ne secrï¿½te verbe nul ï¿½ l'instar de cinq
occis--, rets amincis, drailles inï¿½gales, il, avatar espacï¿½, caresse ce
noir Belzebuth, ï¿½ il offensï¿½, tire !
L'ï¿½cho fit (ï¿½ dï¿½sert) : Salut, sang, robe et ï¿½tï¿½.
Fiï¿½vres.
Adam, rauque; il ï¿½crit : Abrupt ogre, eh, cercueil, l'avenir tu, effilï¿½,
gï¿½nial ï¿½ la rue (murmure sud eu ne tire vaseline sï¿½parï¿½e; l'ï¿½peire gelï¿½e
rode : Hep, mortel ?) lia ta balafre native.
Litige. Regagner (et ne m'ï¿½).
Ressac. Il frï¿½mit, se sape, na ! Eh, cavale! Timide, il nia ce sursaut.

Hasard repu, tel, le magicien ï¿½ morte me lit. Un ignare le rapsode, lacs
ï¿½mu, mixa, mï¿½la :
Hep, Oceano Nox, ï¿½, bï¿½chamel azur ! ï¿½jaculer ! Topaze !
Le cï¿½dre, malabar faible, Arsinoï¿½ le macule, mante ivre, glauque, pis,
l'air atone (sic). Art sournois : si, mï¿½dicinale, l'autre glace (Melba
?) l'un ? N'alertai ni pollen (retï¿½ter : gercï¿½, repu, dentï¿½) ni tobacco.
Tu, dï¿½sir, brio rimï¿½, eh, prolixe nï¿½crophore, tu ferres l'avenir velu,
ocre, cromant-nï¿½ ?
Rage, l'ara. Veuglaire. Sedan, tes elzï¿½virs t'obsï¿½dent. Romain ? Exact.
Et Nemrod selle ses Samson !
Et nier tï¿½ocalli ?
Cave canem (car ce nu trop minois -- rembuscade d'ï¿½ruptives ï¿½ babil --
admonesta, fil accru, Tï¿½tebleu ! qu'Ariane ï¿½vitï¿½t net.
Attention, ï¿½bï¿½nier factice, ressorti du rï¿½el. Ci-gï¿½t. Alpaga, gnï¿½me, le
hï¿½ros se lamente, trompï¿½, chocolat : ce laid totem, ord, nil aplati,
rituel biscornu; ce sacrï¿½ bï¿½deau (quel bï¿½t ce Jï¿½sus!). Palace piï¿½gï¿½,
Torpï¿½do drue si ï¿½ fellah tï¿½t ne peut ni le Big ï¿½ ruer bezef.
L'eugï¿½niste en rut consuma d'art son ï¿½pi d'ï¿½olienne ici rot (ehï¿½ rut ?).
Toi, d'idem gin, ï¿½lï¿½vera, ï¿½lu, bifocal, l'ithos et notre pathos ï¿½ la
hauteur de sec salamalec ?
ï¿½lucider. Ion ï¿½clatï¿½ : Elle ? Tenu. Etna but (item mal famï¿½), degrï¿½
vide, julep : macï¿½doine d'axiomes, sac semï¿½ d'ï¿½cole, vï¿½niel, ah, le
verbe enivrï¿½ (ne sucer ni arrï¿½ter, eh ï¿½a jamais !) lu n'abolira le hasard ?
Nu, ottoman ï¿½ ï¿½cho, l'art su, oh, tara zï¿½ro, belle Deborah, ï¿½, sacre !
Pute, vertubleu, qualitï¿½ si vertu ï¿½ la part tarifï¿½ (dï¿½calitres ?) et nul
n'a lu trop s'il sï¿½ria de ce basilic Iseut.

Il a priï¿½ bonzes, Samaritain, Tora, vilains monstres (idolï¿½tre DNA en
sus) rï¿½vï¿½s, ï¿½vaporï¿½s :
Arbalï¿½te (bï¿½tes) en noce du Tell ivre-mort, ï¿½meri tu : O, trapu ï¿½ elfe,
il lie l'os, il lia jï¿½rï¿½miade lucide. Petard! Rate ta reinette, bigleur
cruel, non ï¿½ ce lot ! Si, farcis-toi dito le coeur !
Lied ï¿½ monstre velu, ange ni bï¿½te, sec ï¿½ pseudo dï¿½lire : Tsarine
(sellï¿½e, lï¿½), Cid, Arï¿½tin, abruti de Ninive, Dï¿½janire..
Le Phenix, eve de sables, ï¿½cartï¿½, ne peut ï¿½garer racines radiales en
mana : l'Oubli, fï¿½tiche en argile.
Foudre.
Prix : Ile de la Gorgone en roc, et, ï¿½, Licorne ï¿½cartelï¿½e,
Sirï¿½ne, rumb ï¿½ bannir ï¿½ ma (Red n'osa) niï¿½re de mimosa :
Paysage d'Ourcq ocre sous ive d'ï¿½cale;
Volcan. Roc : tarot cï¿½lï¿½ du Pï¿½re.
Livres.
Silï¿½ne bavard, repliï¿½ sur sa nullitï¿½ (nu ï¿½ je) belge : ipsï¿½itï¿½ banale.
L' (eh, ï¿½a !) hydromel ï¿½ ri, psaltï¿½rion. Errï¿½e Loreleiï¿½
Fi ! Marmelade dï¿½virï¿½ d'Aladine. D'or, Noï¿½l : crï¿½che (l'an ici taverne
gelï¿½e dï¿½s bolï¿½) ï¿½ santon givrï¿½, fi !, culï¿½ de l'ï¿½ne vairon.
Lapalisse ï¿½lu, gnoses sans orgueil (ï¿½cru, sale, sec). Saluts : angiome.
T'es si crï¿½neur !

*
* *

Rue. Narcisse ! Tï¿½moignas-tu ! l'ascï¿½se, lï¿½, sur ce lieu gros, nasses
ongulï¿½esï¿½
S'il a pal, noria vï¿½nale de Lucifer, vignot nasal (obsï¿½dï¿½e, le genre
vaticinal), eh, Cercle, on rode, nid ï¿½ la dï¿½rive, Dï¿½dale (M.. !) ramifiï¿½ ?
Le rï¿½le erre, noir, et la spirale mord, y hache l'ï¿½lan abï¿½ti : Espiï¿½gle
(bï¿½jaune) Till : un as rusï¿½.
Il perdra. Va bene.
Lis, servile repu d'ï¿½lectorat, cornac, Lovelace. De visu, oser ?
Coq cru, ï¿½, Degas, y'a pas, ï¿½ mime, de rein ï¿½ sonder : ï¿½ marin nabab,
murï¿½ne risï¿½e.
Le trace en roc, ilote cornï¿½en.
O, grog, ale d'elixir perdu, ï¿½, feligrane! Eh, citï¿½, fil bu !
ï¿½ ! l'anamnï¿½se, lai d'arsenic, arrï¿½rage tuï¿½, pï¿½nï¿½tra ce sel-base de
Vexin. Eh, pï¿½lerin ï¿½ (Je : devin inï¿½dit) urbanitï¿½ radicale (elle s'en
iraï¿½), stï¿½rile, dodu.
Espaces (ï¿½tï¿½ binï¿½ ? gnaule ?) verts.
Nomade, il rue, ocelot. Idiot-sic rafistolï¿½ : canon ! Leur cruel gibet
te niera, tï¿½tard ratï¿½, pï¿½dicule d'aimï¿½ rejailli.
Soleil lie, flï¿½au, partout ire (Mï¿½tro, Mer, Villeï¿½) tu dï¿½connes. ï¿½tï¿½ :
bï¿½tel ï¿½ brasero. Pavese versus Neandertal ! O, diserts noms ni ï¿½ Livarot
ni ï¿½ Tir ! Amassez.
N'obï¿½ir.
Pali, tu es ici : lis abï¿½cï¿½daires, lis portulan : l'un te sert-il ? ï¿½ ce
dï¿½fi rattrapa l'autre ? Vise-t-il auquel but rï¿½vï¿½ tu perï¿½as ?
Oh, arobe d'ellï¿½bore, Zarathoustra! L'ohcï¿½an ï¿½ mot (Toundra ? Sahel ?) ï¿½
ri : Lob ï¿½ nul si ï¿½ ma jachï¿½re, terrain rï¿½cusï¿½, nervi, nï¿½e brï¿½ve
l'haleine vï¿½loce de mes casse-moix ï¿½ (Dï¿½ni, ï¿½ !) dï¿½campï¿½.
Lu, je diverge de ma flamme titubante : une telle (ï¿½tal, ce noir ï¿½dicule
cela mal) ascï¿½se drue tua, ha, l'As.
Oh, taper ! Tontes ! Oh, tillac, ï¿½, fibule ï¿½ rï¿½ve l'ï¿½nigme (d'idiot tu)
rhï¿½toricienne.
Il, Oedipe, Nostradamus nocturne et, si nï¿½ Guelfe, zï¿½breur ï¿½ Gibelin tuï¿½
(pentothal ?), le faiseur d'ode protï¿½ge.
Ipï¿½caï¿½ : lapsus.
Eject ï¿½ bleu qu'aï¿½de berï¿½a sec. Un roc si bleu ! Tir. ital. : palindrome
tï¿½t dialectal. Oc ? Oh, cep mort et nï¿½, mal essorï¿½, hï¿½lï¿½. Mon gag aplati
gicle. ï¿½rudit rosse-rï¿½cit, ï¿½a freine, benoit, net.
Ta tentative en air auquel bï¿½te, turc, califat se (nom d'Ali-Baba !)
sï¿½vit, pure de -- d'ac ? -- submersion importune, crac, menace, vacilla,
co-ï¿½treinteï¿½

Nos masses, elles dorment ? Etcï¿½ Axï¿½ ni ï¿½ mort-nï¿½ des bots. Rivez ! Les
Etna de Serial-Guevara l'ï¿½garent. N'amorcer coulevrine.
Valser. Refuter.
Oh, porc en exil (Orphï¿½e), miroir brisï¿½ du toc cabotin et nï¿½ du Perec :
Regret ï¿½ternel. L'opiniï¿½tre. L'annulable.
Mec, Alger tua l'ï¿½lan ici dï¿½mission. Ru ostracisï¿½, notarial, si peu
qu'Alger, Viet-Nam (ï¿½lu camï¿½lï¿½on !), Israï¿½l, Biafra, bal ï¿½ merde :
celez, apï¿½tre Luc ï¿½ Jï¿½ruzalem, ah ce boxon! On ï¿½ ï¿½copï¿½, ha, le maximum !

Escale d'os, pare le rang inutile. Mï¿½tromane ici gamelle, tu perdras.
Ah, tu as rusï¿½! Cain! Lied imitï¿½ la vache (ï¿½ ne pas estimer) (flic
assermentï¿½, rengagï¿½) rï¿½git.
Il ï¿½vita, nerf ï¿½ la bataille trompï¿½.
Hï¿½, dorï¿½e, l'ï¿½gï¿½rie pelï¿½e rape, sï¿½nile, sa vï¿½ritï¿½ nue du sï¿½rum : rumeur
ï¿½ la laine, gel, if, feutrine, val, lieu-crï¿½che, ergot, pur, Bï¿½tir ce
lieu qu'Armada serve : if ï¿½tï¿½tï¿½, ï¿½borgnas-tu l'astre sï¿½datif ?
Oh, cï¿½lï¿½ritï¿½s ! Nef ! Folie ! Oh, tubez ! Le brio ne cessera, ce cap
sera ta valise; l'ï¿½ge : ni sel-liard (sic) ni master-(sic)-coq, ni
cï¿½drats, ni la lune brï¿½ve. Tercï¿½, sï¿½nï¿½galais, un soleil perdra ta bï¿½tise
hï¿½ritï¿½e (Moi-Dieu, la vï¿½role!)

Dï¿½roba le serbe glauque, pis, ancestral, hï¿½breu (Galba et
Septime-Sï¿½vï¿½re). Cesser, vidï¿½ et niï¿½. Tetanos. Etna dï¿½s boustrophï¿½don
rï¿½pudiï¿½. Boiser. Rï¿½vï¿½le l'avare mï¿½lo, s'il t'a bï¿½ni, brutal tablier vil.
Adios. Pilles, pale rï¿½tine, le sel, l'acide mercanti. Feu que Judas
rï¿½ve, civette imitable, tu as alertï¿½, sort ï¿½ blason, leur croc. Et nier
et n'oser. Casse-t-il, ï¿½, baiser vil ? ï¿½ toi, nu dï¿½sir brisï¿½, dï¿½cï¿½dï¿½,
trope percï¿½, roc lu. Dï¿½trompe la. Morts : l'Ame, l'ï¿½lan abï¿½ti, revenu.
Dï¿½sire ce trï¿½pas rï¿½vï¿½ : Ci va ! S'il porte, sï¿½pulcral, ce repentir, cet
ï¿½crit ne perturbe le lucre : Haridelle, ta gabegie ne mord ni la plage
ni l'ï¿½cart.

Georges Perec
Au Moulin d'Andï¿½, 1969