ALLBELIEFS controlled by Bahai Internet Agency - BEWARE
NUR
NUR
wrote:
> On Jan 25, 12:39 am, NUR <wahidaza...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://bahaicultfaq.blogspot.com/
>
> Funny how a spam link of yours doesn't actually correlate with your
> title of this post
>
> "ALLBELIEFS controlled by Bahai Internet Agency"
Even funnier is how you grace these boards to reply. Yes, Allbeliefs
is controlled by the BAHAI INTERNET AGENCY, bought and paid for all
the way!
NUR
wrote:
> > > "ALLBELIEFS controlled by Bahai Internet Agency"
>
> > Even funnier is how you grace these boards to reply. Yes, Allbeliefs
> > is controlled by the BAHAI INTERNET AGENCY, bought and paid for all
> > the way!
>
>
> No, All Beliefs isn't paid for by any imaginary BIA, that is
> laughable, and
> very conspiracy theorist of you to think that.
>
> As soon as you have proof, then people other then yourself might
> actually
> start to take your seriously, but until then, your a few crayons short
> of the box.
NUR
wrote:
You.
> Like I stated before, your internet harassment
> tricks aren't
> going to get you anywhere but trouble.
Let's rock, babe. You found trouble with a capital 'T'!
beckysoup61
contacted the lady who's myspace
page you keep posting and will be contacting Google on terms of
harassment by yourself.
NUR
wrote:
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/19abb1f4b05d2476#
beckysoup61
What you are doing is harassment. Trying to "follow" someone around
the web
and produce things that have nothing to do with what is at hand and
trying to scare
the other person. I have simply documented the pages on Google Groups,
you are
harassing.
NUR
wrote:
Posting information on a public domain that is already in the public
domain is not harrassment. Sorry!
abrahamreyes9
But it sure is annoying!!! :) NUR are you from australia? :)
NUR
We aim to please :) Are you from Ur-anus?
abrahamreyes9
No I'm from new zealand... I'm actually quite curious where you're
from Wahid
NUR
A Kiwi. Hah!
"I come from Eran-Vej. My mother is Spendarmat, the Archangel of the
Earth; and my father is Ohrmazd, the Lord of Wisdom" - Ahunvar
abrahamreyes9
Yes I'm a kiwi. Here serving Bahaullah spreading the word of god
teaching the faith for this age.
Getting in amongst the people. Teaching my friends what virtues by
example. What are you doing?
Spreading hate on the internet on behalf of your covenant breaking
ancestors?
NUR
In my kneck of the woods that would be "wanka".
>Here serving Bahaullah spreading the word of god
> teaching the faith for this age.
Prosletyzing a cult and leading innocent individuals astray from the
Truth, in other words.
> Getting in amongst the people. Teaching my friends what virtues by
> example. What are you doing?
Taking on wanka's such as yourself for the benefit of the Truth and
its elect.
> Spreading hate on the internet on behalf of your covenant breaking
> ancestors?
The covenant breake's and hate spreaders here are you Haifan Bahaim,
and your own personal ancestors, wanka.
NUR
Your specific ancestors were responsible for betraying the last Inca
emperor to his enemies who then overwhelmed Peru and the rest of South
America and who have remained there like a cancerous disease ever
since ravaging and devastating the global eco-system. This is why you
cannot see straight. You your eyes are not your own.
You claim a foreign man's god and adopt his brujeria (sorcery) as
yours forsaking the Ways of your own ancestors who have more to teach
you specifically about the Ways of the Pure Spirit than some Stalinist
bureaucracy (which has nothing anymore to do with its own core
teachings) ever could. You leave your own soil when you don't need to
in order to help your own people who need you there rather than a
bunch of Kiwis who don't.
It is you, not I, who needs to repent before the Almighty Godhead for
being misled into the ways of diablo!
abrahamreyes9
LOL this is hilarious you google my name and you get a bit of
background info on me. Thats awesome _b
All i'm asking you is this.. why do you go out of your way to slander
and insult the Bahai faith?
NUR
Actually, I have others googling such information for me.
>
> All i'm asking you is this.. why do you go out of your way to slander
> and insult the Bahai faith?
Because your cult stands on the darkside and with the global
counterpowers of darkness. And the issue is the Haifan cult you belong
to.
abrahamreyes9
This is what your poisoned spirit cannot recognize... bluffer
charlatan. Well, you became a Azali because nobody crowned you as the
supreme leader of the liberal Baha'is. Nevertheless, you could neither
practice the traditional Azalism that you adopted. You tried in vain
to
reform the dying Azalism due to that your aspirations were too
heretical and narcissistic. Your pathetic cult does not exist and you
have not obtained who any Bayani group comes to the light in America,
Europe or Australia.
NUR
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/
"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel,
Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite,
Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully,
Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence,
Harass... etc., etc.... CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
1. As far as possible they hold back from responding
2. Then they claim no knowledge of the given issue by feigning
ignorance
3. After the exposer has exposed they will try to divert to secondary
and totally peripheral and irrelevent side-issues
4. The exposer is then painted as someone with an axe to grind,
biased, deluded (while they, the bahaim, still have not responded to
the main issue exposed)
5. Next they relate mental instability and insanity to the exposer,
i.e. shoot the messenger
6. Then, the last tactic, is to wheel out several dubious personas on
the scene who claim to be neutral non-bahai observers who then begin
attacking the exposer as well as the issue exposed while supporting
the bahais and their issues as so-called non-bahais
Quote
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/technique.htm
Professor Juan Cole, University of Michigan, June 12, 1998:
"Let me ask you why in the world you think that I would risk my
professional reputation by publicly stating falsehoods? ...The very
technique of the more glaze-eyed among these people is to unbearably
bully a Baha'i whom they don't like, use unjustified threats of
declaring him or her a CB [Covenant Breaker (heretic)] to silence the
individual, and if the person will not be silenced, then to depend
upon the gullibility of the Baha'is in refusing to listen to any
victim's story because, of course, the Baha'i institutions are
infallible and divinely guided and could never do anything wrong. It
is a perfect racket. Of course, this technique of making liberals go
away has been enormously successful, and ex-Baha'i liberals have no
credibility with the remaining Baha'is nor do most of them have any
energy to continue to make a case, either to the Baha'is or the
outside world, for the incredible abuses that go on inside this
organization ostensibly committed to tolerance!"
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Cole10.htm
Professor Juan Cole, February 23, 1999:
"There is nothing to be puzzled by. Right wing Baha'is only like to
hear the sound of their own voices (which are the only voices they
will admit to being "Baha'i" at all). Obviously, the world is so
constructed that they cannot in fact only hear their own voices. They
are forced to hear other voices that differ from theirs. This most
disturbs them when the voices come from enrolled Baha'is or when the
voices speak of the Baha'i faith. The way they sometimes deal with the
enrolled Baha'is is to summon them to a heresy inquiry and threaten
them with being shunned if they do not fall silent. With non-Baha'is
or with ex-Baha'is, they deal with their speech about the faith by
backbiting, slandering and libelling the speaker. You will note that
since I've been on this list I have been accused of long-term heresy,
of "claiming authority," of out and out lying (though that was
retracted, twice), of misrepresentation, of 'playing fast and loose
with the facts,' and even of being 'delusional.' I have been accused
of all these falsehoods by *Baha'is*, by prominent Baha'is. I have
been backbitten by them. This shows that all the talk about the danger
a sharp tongue can do, all the talk about the need for harmony, for
returning poison with honey, for a sin-covering eye, is just *talk*
among right wing Baha'is. No one fights dirtier than they when they
discover a voice they cannot silence and cannot refute....
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Cole71.htm
BAHAI TACTICS according to Henry Tad
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/0c1210a627cdaae3
abrahamreyes9
This is a reference to Mirza Yahya, known as Subh-i-Azal
(Morning of Eternity), a younger half-brother of Bahá'u'lláh,
who arose against Him and opposed His Cause. Mirza
Yahya was nominated by the Báb to serve as a figure-head
for the Bábí community pending the imminent manifestation
of the Promised One. At the instigation of Siyyid
Muhammad-i-Isfahani (see note 192), Mirza Yahya betrayed
the trust of the Báb, claimed to be His successor, and
intrigued against Bahá'u'lláh, even attempting to have Him
murdered. When Bahá'u'lláh formally declared His Mission
to him in Adrianople, Mirza Yahya responded by going to
the length of putting forward his own claim to be the
recipient of an independent Revelation. His pretensions
were eventually rejected by all but a few, who became
known as Azalis (see note 177). He is described by Shoghi 249
Effendi as the "Arch-Breaker of the Covenant of the Bab"
(see God Passes By, chapter X)
NUR
In
Ma'idih-i-Asmani, vol. 4, page 355
http://reference.bahai.org/fa/t/b/MAS4/mas4-355.html
Translation by Wahid Azal (Jan. 7, 2009)
QUOTE
Chapter 11
The Critics of the Cause of God (munkirin-i-amru'llah)
The Ancient Beauty in the Tablet of Habib from Maragha, which begins
with "H B hear the call of God from the direction of the throne by the
protective signs/verses (bi-ayati muhayyimin)..etc." they [i.e. Husayn
'Ali Nuri] enunciate the command (mi-farmayand) [i.e. state],
By God, the Truth, whomsoever criticizes it [i.e. Baha'ism], [which
is] possessed of the manifest, the brilliant, the high and the
perspicuous excellence, it behoveth him to ask his mother [yanbaghi
lahu bi-an yas'al min ummihi] about his origins [or 'state',
i.e.'hal', meaning he should inquire his mother about his legitimate
conception – trans.], for he shall return to the nethermost hell
[asfal al-jahim]"…
In Promulgation of Universal Peace p. 322 the following is quoted by
'Abbas Effendi from a prayer by his father, cf. THE BAHA'I FAITH AND
ISLAM (ed.) Heshmat Moayyad (The Association for Baha'i Studies:
Ottawa, 1990), p.23
Quote
O God! Whomsoever violates My Covenant, O God, humiliate him. Verily
whosoever violates My Covenant, erase and efface him.
abrahamreyes9
NUR
1. Baha'i Faith
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith
2. Baha'i Internet Agency
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%E2%80%99i_Internet_Agency
3. An Episcopalian view of Baha'ism
http://www.episcopalcafe.com/daily/interfaith/lessons_for_christians_in_the.php
4. Then see,
SECTS OF BAHAIS: A Taxonomy of Baha'i Sects, http://www.sectsofbahais.com/
&
5. Documentary film by independent Israeli film maker Naama Pyritz:
BAHA'IS IN MY BACKYARD
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2877478116441126906&hl=en-AU
6. LAWSUIT
Comment: Larger Haifan Baha'i organization sues smaller Orthodox
Baha'i faith for trademark infringement on the name Baha'i and loses.
US NSA vs OBF (Orthodox Baha'i Faith)
Regarding the court victory by the Orthodox Baha'is, and the suit
brought by the Haifan Bahai organization against them:
http://trueseeker.typepad.com/true_seeker/court_case.html
Judge's decision
http://www.truebahai.info/court/139-opinion.pdf
**Appellate hearing (Feb 2009)***
http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/LF1FFZY0.mp3
Comment: This is an interesting listen.
Chicago Tribune Article
Monday, May 18, 2009
Baha’i rift: Baha’is upset with Orthodox Baha’i Faith
Mainstream group doesn’t want the name Baha’i by any other group
http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2009/may/18/local/chi-bahai-18-may18
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7. BAHAI Tactics & Techniques
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/
Quote
8: THEORY OF BAHA’I LYING & EQUIVOCATION
See Susan Stiles Maneck,
http://bahai-library.com/bsr/bsr06/62_maneck_hikmat.htm
WISDOM AND DISSIMULATION IN THE BAHA’I WRITINGS: The Use and meaning
of Hikmat in the Baha’i Writings
QUOTE
"In many cases hikmat calls for the apparent suspension of a Bahá'í
principle in order to ensure the protection of the Faith."
Comment: In other words Baha'is may lie under any circumstance to
ensure the protection of their organizational cohesiveness.
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9: BAHA'I ADMINISTRATIVE STALINISM
See Critique of Baha'i Administration (defunct as of 2006)
http://bahaiadmin.blogspot.com/
QUOTE
"We don't want to be like those people who want to see God with their
own eyes, or hear His melody with their own ears, because we have been
given the gift of being able to see through the eyes of the House of
Justice and listen through the ears of the House of Justice." - Bahai
Counselor Rebeque Murphy
To hear this section of her talk go to:
http://media1.bahai.us/tab/Highlights/Sunday/30_Counselor_Murphy_Rema...
(Link now defunct)
http://bahai-library.com/published.uhj/counsellors.html
THE INSTITUTION OF THE COUNSELLORS
A Document Prepared by the Universal House of Justice
January 29 2001
Quote
Protection of the Cause (pp. 15-16)
Although deepening the friends' understanding of the Covenant and
increasing their love and loyalty to it are of paramount importance,
the duties of the Auxiliary Board members for Protection do not end
here. The Board members must remain ever vigilant, monitoring the
actions of those who, driven by the promptings of ego, seek to sow the
seeds of doubt in the minds of the friends and undermine the Faith. In
general, whenever believers become aware of such problems, they should
immediately contact whatever institution they feel moved to turn to,
whether it be a Counsellor, an Auxiliary Board member, the National
Spiritual Assembly or their own Local Assembly. It then becomes the
duty of that institution to ensure that the report is fed into the
correct channels and that all the other institutions affected are
promptly informed. Not infrequently, the responsibility will fall on
an Auxiliary Board member, in coordination with the Assembly
concerned, to take some form of action in response to the situation.
This involvement will include counselling the believer in question;
warning him, if necessary, of the consequences of his actions; and
bringing to the attention of the Counsellors the gravity of the
situation, which may call for their intervention. Naturally, the Board
member has to exert every effort to counteract the schemes and arrest
the spread of the influence of those few who, despite attempts to
guide them, eventually break the Covenant.
The need to protect the Faith from the attacks of its enemies may not
be generally appreciated by the friends, particularly in places where
attacks have been infrequent. However, it is certain that such
opposition will increase, become concerted, and eventually universal.
The writings clearly foreshadow not only an intensification of the
machinations of internal enemies, but a rise in the hostility and
opposition of its external enemies, whether religious or secular, as
the Cause pursues its onward march towards ultimate victory.
Therefore, in the light of the warnings of the Guardian, the Auxiliary
Boards for Protection should keep "constantly" a "watchful eye" on
those "who are known to be enemies, or to have been put out of the
Faith", discreetly investigate their activities, alert intelligently
the friends to the opposition inevitably to come, explain how each
crisis in God's Faith has always proved to be a blessing in disguise,
and prepare them for the "dire contest which is destined to range the
Army of Light against the forces of darkness".
--
Letter of US NSA to Dann May & Phyllis Bernard and their response
(2006)
http://usnsadannmayresponse.blogspot.com/2010/02/correspondence-of-us-nsa-dann-may-2006.html
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10: BAHA’I CONTROL ON THEIR ELECTORAL SYSTEM – EXPOSED (Structural
features of Bahai Stalinism) (2009)
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/636c4cedf90dea5b
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11: BAHAI NOTIONS of FREEDOM of CONSCIENCE according to EX-UHJ member
DOUGLAS MARTIN -- Monday, September 23, 2001
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/DMartin.htm
Quote
"We have inherited a dangerous delusion from Christianity that our
individual conscience is supreme. This is not a Baha'i belief. In the
end, in the context of both our role in the community and our role in
the greater world, we must be prepared to sacrifice our personal
convictions or opinions. The belief that individual conscience is
supreme is equivalent to "taking partners with God" which is abhorrent
to the Teachings of the Faith."
http://www.bahai-library.org/talks/martin.watson.html
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12: NOTE especially, S.G. Wilson,
BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS ASSASSINATION The Muslim World vol. 4, issue 4,
1914.
&
BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS DECEPTION The Muslim World, Volume 5, Issue
2,1914-1915.
at,
http://wahidazal66.googlepages.com/babidocuments%28westernsources%29
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13: BAHA'I SCAM-ARTISTRY & FRAUD IN THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES: A Multi-
Milliard Rial Scam By A Baha’i Company in Dubai
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/0c8df7dca08d52ce#
(2009)
14: FBI raids office of Baha’i at Univ. Florida (2009)
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/97aed7a172da675/1b8eb9f1758c241b?lnk=gst&q=FBI+%2B+Bahai#1b8eb9f1758c241b
15: BAHAI BUSINESS PRACTICES IN THE USA (2004)
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/de706298e9a9cd6f#
16: BAHAI INCEST CASE IN PERU (2003-2004)
http://gaybahai.yuku.com/forum/viewtopic/id/423
&
BAHAI INCEST CASE IN IRAN (2009)
http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-37272920090103
17: BAHAI SPY RING IN INDIA BUSTED
http://bahaispyringnusted.blogspot.com/
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Note
18: Baha'u'llah (the Baha'i founder) On the Critics of the Cause
QUOTE
Chapter 11
Quote
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19: Note Dr Sa'eed Khan on the Baha'is he knew
From Mission Problems in New Persia, 1926, p. 83, 87 & 89 quoted by
William McElwee Miller in The Baha'i Faith: It's History and
Teachings, 1973, p. 289.
Quote
"...There is no conscience with them [ i.e. the Baha'is], they keep to
no principle, they tell you what is untrue, ignoring or denying
undoubted historical facts, and this is the character of both the
leader and the led...As to morality and honesty, the whole system has
proved disappointing...I have been in contact with many Baha'is, and
have had dealings with many and have tested many, and unfortunately I
have met not a single one who could be called honest or faithful in
the full sense of these words..."
Dr Sa'eed Khan [was] a highly-respected physician...who had as a
doctor treated the second widow of the Bab, and had for a lifetime
known intimately both Babis [i.e. Bayanis] and Baha'is in Tehran and
Hamadan.
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20: BAHAISM AND THE BRITISH Government
http://bahaisandbritannia.googlepages.com/home
1. (Top Secret) British Government Foreign Countries Report (no.56)
16th November 1921
2. APPRECIATION OF THE ATTACHED EASTERN REPORT NO. LXX (May 1918)
Then see,
HOSTAGE TO KHOMEINI by Robert Dreyfuss (New Benjamin Franklin House:
New York, 1980) pp.117-118 (Pdf pages 73-74)
http://www.wlym.com/pdf/iclc/hostage.pdf
&
http://www.archive.org/details/HostageToKhomeini
...Today the Bahai cult is hated in Iran, and is considered correctly
to be an arm of the British Crown. During the destabilization of the
Shah in 1978, it was widely reported that in several instances the
Bahai cult secretly funded the Khomeini Shi’ite movement. In part, the
money would have flowed through the cult’s links to the same
international ‘human rights’ organizations, such as Amnesty
International, that originally sponsored the anti-Shah movement in
Iran. These movements also derive from the “one world” currents
associated with the Bahais since the early 1900s. (If any Iranians
have been misled on the question of the Bahais by the supposed
antipathy of Khomeini’s clique to the Bahais, it should be noted that
the Bahai cultists often deliberately encouraged anti-Bahai activities
as camouflage)...
Also see pp. 115-116 (Pdf page 72)
Note as well,
http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=RvttAAAAMAAJ&dq=%22The+Handboo...
Reference:
PALESTINE
EDITED BY : HARRY CHARLES LUKE, B.Lr1r., M.A.
ASSISTANT GOVERNOR OF JERUSALEM AND EDWARD KEITH-ROACH ASSISTANT CHIEF
SECRETARY TO THE GOVERNMENT OF PALESTINE
WITH AN INTRODUCTION BY
The Right Hon. SIR HERBERT SAMUEL, P.C., G.B.E.
HIGH COMMISSIONER FOR PALESTINE
Issued under the Authority of the Government of Palestine
MACMILLAN AND CO., LIMITED
ST. MARTIN'S STREET, LONDON
1922
Quote
"...Sir 'Abbas Effendi 'Abdu'l Baha had travelled extensively in
Europe and America to expound his doctrines, and on the 4th December,
1919, was created by King George V. a K.B.E. for valuable services
rendered to the British Government in the early days of the
Occupation....."
See,
Wellesley Tudor Pole
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellesley_Tudor_Pole
&
http://gothicimage.co.uk/leymap.html
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21: Online Books to look at
William McElwee Miller THE BAHA'I FAITH: It's History and Teachings
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/archives/Baha'i%20faith%20and%20Its%20Teachings%20by%20William%20McElwee%20Miller.htm
Mirza Ahmad Sohrab, BROKEN SILENCE
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/archives/SohrabBrokenSilence.pdf
Vance Salisbury, AN EXAMINATION OF SUPPRESSION AND DISTORTION IN 20th-
CENTURY BAHA'I LITERATURE
http://bahai-library.org/unpubl.articles/suppression.html
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22: Washington based US Baha'i Lobbyists
From Government's end: why Washington stopped working by Jonathan
Rauch, 1999, pg 41-42.
Quote
"A sign of the times was the opening of the Baha'i religion's
Washington lobbying office in July 1987, complete with a staff of four
and a budget of $400,000 - a telling moment, because the Baha'i faith
requires its members to abstain from politics. When I peaked through
the Baha'is window one day, the only remarkable feature of their
Washington office was that it looked exactly like every other
Washington office."
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23: THE TAHERI FILES
http://taherifiles.blogspot.com/
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24: Naser Emtesali's SCRIBD controversial Baha'i documents page
http://www.scribd.com/NaserEmtesali
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25: Interesting conversation with a Muslim convert regarding Bahaism
(early 2010)
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/470629758d76627a#
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26: The Haifan Baha'i Agenda for Iran spelled out
http://haifanbahaiagendairan.blogspot.com/
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27: Draconian Ugandan Law supported by Fundamentalist Christians,
Fundamentalist Muslims and BAHA'IS (2009)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/sep/17/ugandangaysdemandfreedom
&
http://www.iranian.com/main/blog/nur-i-azal/draconian-anti-gay-ugandan-law-supported-american-evangelicals-muslims-bahais?page=3
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28: Bayanic.Com
http://www.bayanic.com [CLICK tab BAHAISM]
& http://theprimalpoint.com (mirror site)
==CAUTION NON-BAHAIS==