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stephan Beyer

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Apr 12, 2020, 7:56:02 AM4/12/20
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"You are a threat to our cause because you try to separate the Bab from Baha'u'llah. "

NUR

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Apr 12, 2020, 8:16:01 AM4/12/20
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On Sunday, 12 April 2020 21:56:02 UTC+10, stephan Beyer wrote:
> "You are a threat to our cause because you try to separate the Bab from Baha'u'llah. "

https://www.reddit.com/r/exbahai/comments/fxlfu2/two_different_comments_on_my_blog/

As I have been saying, this jerk is a tool of the BIA. Abookire outright admitted it here, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/talk.religion.bahai/Nke8RNhRL20

There is no difference in Dale's case. He is working on the inside as are the moderators of the so-called reddit exbahai subreddit as well.
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stephan Beyer

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Apr 12, 2020, 8:35:28 AM4/12/20
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SA1701 claims exbahais should stick together but he is the one who insists on being the cause of division.

I am fine making common cause with people who don't have the knowledge and love of The Bab The Primal Point. I hope they will learn to love His light and truth. And to see the power of The Names and Attributes of God and the science of letters.

I will make common cause with all who fight empire corruption and colonialism. I don't need to have them agree with me on what is right and true if they can see what is wrong.
I only find it needful to dissociate from those who insist on devaluing nature gnosis and faith. Over time as my families needs and my means allow I would like to dissociate myself from the American system as a whole for this reason. But I consider the people trapped in the American debt-slavery system to be in part victims and would like to help as many as possible to resist.

But SA1701 insists on trying to divide exbahais. yet outrageously he tries to blame the people of the bayan for the division he creates. Exbahais don't have to agree on 100 percent of their theology and views and never will. (spiritual orientation?!). Yet they could serve a useful purpose to get out truth about the bahai faith. They will not be useful if SA1701 continues to cause division. And this benefits the bahai faith.
SB

NUR

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Apr 12, 2020, 8:43:31 AM4/12/20
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Well said.

"They will not be useful if SA1701 continues to cause division. And this benefits the bahai faith."

And this is precisely what Dale Husband is paid to do online, hence why he must not be ignored but relentlessly confronted in public and exposed silly, together with the fraud moderators of the reddit exbahai subreddit who are on the payroll of the Iranian government aligned to the IRI faction playing footsies with the Baha'is.

The Honorable Skeptic

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Apr 12, 2020, 12:52:52 PM4/12/20
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Of course, idiots like you think that anyone who is not pro-Bayani must automatically be pro-Baha'i, for some strange reason. It reflects your narcissism, the idea that somehow everything must revolve around you in terms of either promoting your agenda or promoting Baha'i agendas. But in reality, most of the peoples of the world couldn't care less what some deranged "Prophet" on some fucked up agenda did in the mid-19th Century. He was gunned down after waging violence against his own government and people, something even Jesus, who was crucified, was not known to do.

You can seek to destroy both the Baha'i Faith AND your stupid Bayani cult because both are a disgrace to humanity. Why don't you cretins just grow up? Your obsession with the Bab reminds me of Mormons and their strange devotion to Joseph Smith, another con artist, pervert, and wacko. At least they number in the millions and dominate the state of Utah. What do you have?

The Honorable Skeptic

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Apr 12, 2020, 1:16:13 PM4/12/20
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Stephan Beyer, if you really gave a damn about fighting colonialism and capitalist abuses, why are you joining up with a religious bowel movement that only ever produces lunatics who make themselves laughingstocks in public? Even Communism in the mid-20th Century wasn't quite that ridiculous.

The Honorable Skeptic

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Apr 12, 2020, 5:05:15 PM4/12/20
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Note that the liar Stephan Beyer took one sentence of mine out of context to misrepresent my argument. Here is the complete statement:

{{{Then you need to start acting like an exBahai and not a Bayani cultist. ExBahais should stick together against their common enemy, the Baha'i Faith, but you Bayanis only care about your own and condemn anyone not like you. You are a threat to our cause because you try to separate the Bab from Baha'u'llah. That is simply nonsense. You just can't get over the truth, that the Bab failed. Therefore, Baha'u'llah deserved to fail too.}}}

{{{ExBahais should stick together against their common enemy, the Baha'i Faith}}}

{{{the Bab failed. Therefore, Baha'u'llah deserved to fail too.}}}

{{{Baha'u'llah deserved to fail}}}

But Wahid ASSHOLE sez:
{{{As I have been saying, this jerk is a tool of the BIA. [Baha'i Internet Agency]..... this is precisely what Dale Husband is paid to do online [paid by who? - D. H.], hence why he must not be ignored but relentlessly confronted in public and exposed silly [Wahid Azal is incapable of exposing anything, but he is the one who comes across as silly, as my blog has shown with clear documentation - D. H.], together with the fraud moderators of the reddit exbahai subreddit [he calls them frauds because they wouldn't kiss up to his false agenda - D. H.] who are on the payroll of the Iranian government [of which he has shown no proof of - D. H.] aligned to the IRI [Islamic Republic of Iran] faction playing footsies with the Baha'is. [the same faction that discriminates against and even has tried to suppress the Baha'i community of Iran - D. H.]

You want to think the whole world is against you. Well, if so, that is YOUR fault, because YOU antagonized people, including me, the exbahai subreddit moderators, Denis Guron, and Nate Abookie, who could have been your staunch allies. Indeed, I WAS your ally for a long time, because I took your opposition to the Baha'i Faith seriously. I had no idea you were in the business of promoting your own stupid cult; you never talked about it at all to me until we did that podcast together. You must have thought I was about to join your cult, but that was never my intention. I thought you were different than you turned out to be and I was so disappointed to be proven wrong about you.

And then this happened:
https://www.reddit.com/r/exbahai/comments/cxhzog/measures_to_restore_civility/

{{{User WahidAzal66 has been given a permanent ban for making personal threats against the moderators. Specifically,

[[It won't change the fact that you, your duplicity and that of Wison's have already been outed publicly, which is why the traffic to this place is daily coming to a grinding halt. Ban me, and, one way or another, I will have this entire subreddit shut down and publicize your real identity, Saman Wilson's as well as MirzaJan's all over the internet for the trouble.

You have been warned, and you should know by now that I am not one to be trifled with.]]
This is absolutely unacceptable behavior.}}}

Indeed it was! Your statement, Azal, what that of a disgusting narcissist, a lunatic constantly demanding everyone else revolve around only YOU and your extremist agenda. You got what you deserved, period!

And when I saw what you had done, I responded:

{{{Thank you for cleaning up the mess. I was worried that the community was about to tear itself apart. And the Baha'is would laugh at us as a result. We can do better.}}}

THAT turned you completely against me and started your absurd crusade against me, Christian ExBahai, and others in the exbahai subreddit. YOU chose to stick the knife in my back after I merely stated the obvious. That makes you an weapons grade moron.

So Stephan Beyer lied outright when he said:

{{{SA1701 claims exbahais should stick together but he is the one who insists on being the cause of division....But SA1701 insists on trying to divide exbahais. yet outrageously he tries to blame the people of the bayan for the division he creates.}}}

The Bayanis' bad behavior is nothing less than a matter of public record for all to see. Blaming ME for YOUR bogus crap will get you nowhere, you bastards!

NUR

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Apr 12, 2020, 6:55:57 PM4/12/20
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On Monday, 13 April 2020 07:05:15 UTC+10, The Honorable Skeptic wrote:
> Note that the liar Stephan Beyer took one sentence of mine out of context

The sentence is the key context of your entire mental defecation, and reveals you to be a BIA shill as we say you are. The documentation here and elsewhere that you are a paid insider (just as your faggot mentor Eric Stetson was) is now fool-proof since your own slips of the keyboard keeps giving us the proof. You are also not as intellectually gifted and sophisticated as your gay meth-head KAPO friend Abookire to write between lines. The greatest LIAR here is you per your own words. Now prepare to be taken out to your afterlife in hell by the coronavirus, Gomer.

DIE!



Why Dale Husband is a racist
https://youtu.be/rlbtJCJHAM8

Dale Husband is a Baha’i Troll Working for the BIA
https://youtu.be/hCkhgmdTmdc

Proof:
If it weren't for Baha'u'llah, no one outside the Middle East would know or care anything for the Bab and his legacy.”
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/talk.religion.bahai/mk_FvMu2Uh4

Dale Husband and the Trolls of TRB: Gifts that keep on giving!
https://youtu.be/hZnop-ZiAXg

Further notes on why Dale Husband is a racist
https://youtu.be/V09sn07-S4U

Dale Husband AGAIN, and the alliance of convenience against the Bab by Haifan Baha’is, WASP “liberal” ex-Bahais and hawzavi anti-Baha’i Muslims
https://youtu.be/pMmLHGqPs2Y

Better to be a Marxist than an a$$hole:
https://youtu.be/IIHJkET3AqM

Dale Husband loses his mind completely!
https://youtu.be/Nq3UE_QenlQ

Dale Husband should hear this (Jane Elliot – All white people are racists)
https://youtu.be/VTL-NcNC9TQ

Online Baha'i Gatekeeping:
https://youtu.be/vgzcGgiNMRg--
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The Honorable Skeptic

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Apr 12, 2020, 7:10:45 PM4/12/20
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{{{The sentence is the key context of your entire mental defecation, and reveals you to be a BIA shill as we say you are.}}}

[[You are a threat to our cause because you try to separate the Bab from Baha'u'llah."]]

Don't you think it a little strange that the Bab would appoint as his successor someone who would later be overthrown by his own brother? I'd think a real prophet of God would have foreseen that and warned the Bayanis from the start never to allow Baha'u'llah in their ranks, you idiot.

The same issue applies to Baha'u'llah, who appointed both Abdu'l-Baha and Mirza Muhammad Ali as leaders of the Faith after him. That they became enemies afterwards shows Baha'u'llah made a blunder, just as the Bab did. Neither of were credible as Prophets.

THERE IS NO GOD AND THERE ARE NO TRUE PROPHETS!

{{{The documentation here and elsewhere that you are a paid insider (just as your faggot mentor Eric Stetson was) is now fool-proof since your own slips of the keyboard keeps giving us the proof.}}}

Gee, I have never seen any such thing, so I dismiss your claim for what it is, baseless libel.

{{{You are also not as intellectually gifted and sophisticated as your gay meth-head KAPO friend Abookire to write between lines. The greatest LIAR here is you per your own words.}}}

Hey, I don't use anti-Semetic slurs like "Kapo" and I have never been known to lie like you have, so where are you coming from?

{{{Now prepare to be taken out to your afterlife in hell by the coronavirus, Gomer.

DIE!}}}

What are you, a Satanist? Oh, excuse me, I shouldn't be insulting Satanists. They are actually better in character than you.

NUR

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Apr 12, 2020, 7:31:15 PM4/12/20
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On Monday, 13 April 2020 09:10:45 UTC+10, The Honorable Skeptic wrote:
> {{{The sentence is the key context of your entire mental defecation, and reveals you to be a BIA shill as we say you are.}}}
>
> [[You are a threat to our cause because you try to separate the Bab from Baha'u'llah."]]
>
> Don't you think it a little strange that the Bab would appoint as his successor someone who would later be overthrown by his own brother?

No, because the Primal Point EXPLICITLY commanded Subh-i-Azal to keep the faith as its Mirror even if NO ONE BELIEVED IN HIM! Furthermore, the Point only ever addressed Husayn Ali Haba' (hot air) as 238 and as an inferior. The stupidity of your argument is typical of the materialist dumbfuckery of a moronic and shallow Amerikkkan duffus whose only dialectical context is between observable "winners" and "losers," as if history is an American football came or a corporate product where a manipulated consensus reality decides its worth, even though the actual fact of history is that Subh-i-Azal scored the real victory by instrumentalizing the Bayani community in the overthrow of the Qajars and sending those monsters into the garbage heap of history -- and then later produced all the academics and literary figures of the modern Iranian state. He also ensured that that the Bayani community, whatever its circumstances, did not sell out to European imperialist powers like the Baha'is did first to Tsarist Russia and then to the British and later to you scum-sucking Yanks and Zionists.

And if Subh-i-Azal lost? Why did He later come back during the tail end of the 20th century and beginning of the 21st and create decisive global headaches for you Baha'is and fellow-travelers? Methinks the Texan pansy doth protest too much where 'winning' and 'losing' is concerned. Besides what the fuck does an illiterate and know-nothing Texan redneck idiot dolt and incel living in his parents house named Dale Husband know either way. He has no access to texts. He has not a sliver of knowledge of languages. He is just a racist, over-opinionated white "American idiot" in a long line.

This song was written about you, Gomer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee_uujKuJMI

Now DIE!

NUR

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Apr 12, 2020, 7:44:36 PM4/12/20
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Furthermore, this Bayani https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Ali_Foroughi was the efficient cause of saving Iran from being cut into 1000 tiny morsels by the British and the Soviet Union in 1941 when he brokered the deal that stopped process dead in its tracks as they invaded Iran.

What have the Baha'is done even close to being analogous to this? They went on to act as real estate agents in Palestine to the invading Zionists of Europe!

NUR

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Apr 12, 2020, 7:46:22 PM4/12/20
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If we take Gomer's dumb argument about winners and losers to its banal conclusion then Donald Trump and MAGA must be the true heirs of Barack Obama!

NUR

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Apr 12, 2020, 7:48:51 PM4/12/20
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And so Barack Obama and Donald Trump must not be separated from on another (not that I disagree with the argument since Obama and Trump are peas and carrots of the same broth which is Amerikkkan Empire). But if Gomer wishes to argue that point this is the logical (and analogously banal) juxtaposition.

The Honorable Skeptic

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Apr 12, 2020, 7:54:57 PM4/12/20
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{{{No, because the Primal Point EXPLICITLY commanded Subh-i-Azal to keep the faith as its Mirror even if NO ONE BELIEVED IN HIM! Furthermore, the Point only ever addressed Husayn Ali Haba' (hot air) as 238 and as an inferior.}}}

Proof for either of these claims?

After all the crap you have thrown at me, I am not going to believe what you claim about the Bab and Subh-i-Azal, just like I don't believe some of the historical narratives that paint Abdu'l-Baha as totally perfect in his behavior and Mirza Muhammad Ali as a monster. Self-serving bullshit made up many years after the fact is what they ALL look like.


{{{The stupidity of your argument is typical of the materialist dumbfuckery of a moronic and shallow Amerikkkan duffus whose only dialectical context is between observable "winners" and "losers," as if history is an American football came or a corporate product where a manipulated consensus reality decides its worth, even though the actual fact of history is that Subh-i-Azal scored the real victory by instrumentalizing the Bayani community in the overthrow of the Qajars and sending those monsters into the garbage heap of history -- and then later produced all the academics and literary figures of the modern Iranian state. He also ensured that that the Bayani community, whatever its circumstances, did not sell out to European imperialist powers like the Baha'is did first to Tsarist Russia and then to the British and later to you scum-sucking Yanks and Zionists.}}}

What a load of rancid word salad! Are you denying that Baha'u'llah won the allegiance of most of the Babis of his time, making them Baha'is? How do you explain the spread of the Baha'i Faith around the world since then, while the Bayani movement that remains only seems to exist with you and a few of your fellow cultists online? That's sad! Also, the events of 1953 and 1979 in Iran prove that the Bayanis didn't do anything to reform Iran as a society and instead it became first an absolute monarchy friendly to the West and then a fundamentalist Islamic state. Nothing about Bayani involvement in those cases, right? So maybe you made that part up?

{{{And if Subh-i-Azal lost? Why did He later come back during the tail end of the 20th century and beginning of the 21st and create decisive global headaches for you Baha'is and fellow-travelers?}}}

He croaked in 1912 after spending decades on Cyprus, so that alone makes your last point utter bullshit. If you are claiming to be the return of Subh-i-Azal, you are yourself the most damning argument why the Bayani movement shouldn't even exist anymore. Fraud is fraud, bigotry is bigotry, stupidity is stupidity and evil is evil. Repackaging them in a new form is pointless.


{{{Methinks the Texan pansy doth protest too much where 'winning' and 'losing' is concerned. Besides what the fuck does an illiterate and know-nothing Texan redneck idiot dolt and incel living in his parents house named Dale Husband know either way. He has no access to texts. He has not a sliver of knowledge of languages. He is just a racist, over-opinionated white "American idiot" in a long line.}}}

And if that's all you have to throw at me in the end, that's nothing.

https://literarydevices.net/ad-hominem/

The Honorable Skeptic

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Apr 12, 2020, 8:11:19 PM4/12/20
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{{{Furthermore, this Bayani https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Ali_Foroughi ...}}}

There is no reference to him being a Bayani in the entry, and it seems odd that you would claim him as such considering that both Bayanis and Baha'is were savagely persecuted by the Muslim authorities in Persia/Iran, so how could a known Bayani have become Iran's Prime Minister? Nope, not buying that.

The British and the Soviets did not "invade" Iran, liar. They made an agreement with the Iranian government to use the land of that country to set up a supply line to send aid to the Soviet Union while it was in a desperate struggle against Germany. And did you forget that prior to 1953, British and American oil companies still owned most of Iran's oil fields? Do NOT try to rewrite history, you fraud; I can use the internet to check your claims and they usually come up painfully short.

What else?

Maybe I should repeat what I said before.

{{{Don't you think it a little strange that the Bab would appoint as his successor someone who would later be overthrown by his own brother? I'd think a real prophet of God would have foreseen that and warned the Bayanis from the start never to allow Baha'u'llah in their ranks, you idiot.}}}

Merely referring to Barack Obama and Donald Trump is what I'd call a red herring. If it's irrelevant, then you only brought that up because you really CAN'T answer me directly about the Bab's inability to foresee what Baha'u'llah would do. FAIL!

NUR

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Apr 12, 2020, 8:23:32 PM4/12/20
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On Monday, 13 April 2020 09:54:57 UTC+10, The Honorable Skeptic wrote:
> {{{No, because the Primal Point EXPLICITLY commanded Subh-i-Azal to keep the faith as its Mirror even if NO ONE BELIEVED IN HIM! Furthermore, the Point only ever addressed Husayn Ali Haba' (hot air) as 238 and as an inferior.}}}
>
> Proof for either of these claims?
1. http://bayanic.com/lib/fwd/must/Must-FWD.html?id=must
2. http://bayanic.com/lib/fwd/some/Some-FWD.html

But you can't read any of this, can you, you illiterate and adamantly stupid and arogant white Amerikkkan a$$hole?


> After all the crap you have thrown at me,

History, texts and facts do not revolve around you or your white fragility, Gomer.


> I am not going to believe what you claim

Neither I nor history or texts give a flying fuck what you think, Gomer. The Truth remains the Truth regardless of who acknowledges it. And no one is trying to convince you specifically of anything. You are a shill for the BIA (just as Eric Stetson was before you) and your own anti-Bayani bigotry and words expose you!


NUR

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Apr 12, 2020, 8:25:54 PM4/12/20
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>The British and the Soviets did not "invade" Iran,

This know-nothing FOOL is truly dumber than a door-knob and a pure reflection of the alternative reality arrogance of Trump (Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Soviet_invasion_of_Iran

stephan Beyer

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Apr 12, 2020, 10:29:04 PM4/12/20
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I love the idea that I am lying about my opinions. like I don't believe them.

Yes I Absolutely believe you caused division right before our eyes and btw your posts still show that. The person who you now claim was a sock puppets probably deleted her account because she saw how toxic your hate speech against all people who support the Bab is and how dysfunctional it makes the exbahai reddit forum.

please stop trolling people who show an interest in the Bab. please stop creating division among exbahis. People hurt by the bahai faith don't need you intimidating them them because they love The Bab.

stephan Beyer

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Apr 12, 2020, 10:38:53 PM4/12/20
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On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 7:11:19 PM UTC-5, The Honorable Skeptic wrote:

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> The British and the Soviets did not "invade" Iran, liar.

wow so much for the "widely published author". . .

The Honorable Skeptic

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Apr 12, 2020, 11:17:47 PM4/12/20
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I always wonder what rhetorical stunts you Bayanis might pull next to wiggle out of the verbal binds I put you in and your never fail to amuse me. But rhetoric alone proves NOTHING!

{{{History, texts and facts do not revolve around you or your white fragility, Gomer.}}}

You sound EXACTLY like DavidBinOwen aka Scott Hakala when you assert your Bayani dogmas and claims as "facts". You might as well be a Baha'i or even a Mormon.

{{{Yes I Absolutely believe you caused division right before our eyes and btw your posts still show that. The person who you now claim was a sock puppets probably deleted her account because she saw how toxic your hate speech against all people who support the Bab is and how dysfunctional it makes the exbahai reddit forum.}}}

It is not hate speech to confront absurdities and debunk them with consistent logic and REAL facts, coward. Ideas in themselves have no rights, only people do. And neither I nor anyone else told that person in question to delete his account or even leave the exBahai subreddit, so you are just bullshitting. As always.

Returning to that thread where Wahid's expulsion was announced.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exbahai/comments/cxhzog/measures_to_restore_civility/

{{{Artmaker52
As a relatively new user and new ex Bahai this sub reddit has been really important, in providing alternative information and support. I am aware that there have been several posters who have been exploring leaving or joining the Bahai Faith and I think what is presented here can be very helpful for people making informed decisions about their spiritual path (or secular journey). But sometimes it feels like a massive 'hate fest' on here. Which I would think is more likely to just drive people back into the arms of the Bahai's.}}}

He was clearly referring to YOU as the hatemongers, not me! Artmaker52 is still with us to this day and is one of our best contributers.

https://www.reddit.com/user/Artmaker52/

I guess you are going to bash him too? Guess who he is an admirer of?

https://www.reddit.com/r/exbahai/comments/felntm/exbahai_blogs_videos_websites/

{{{Artmaker52
Mine was a blog by Eric Stetson. I totally recognised myself in what he was saying about his relationship with the faith.}}}

{{{please stop trolling people who show an interest in the Bab. please stop creating division among exbahis. People hurt by the bahai faith don't need you intimidating them them because they love The Bab.}}}

The Bab is really not the issue, it is that WAHID AZAL (and you) use your allegance to the Bayani cult to attack me and many others who dare to reject and oppose your bogus crap. I have no doubt if I had chosen to leave the exBahai subreddit in protest of Azal being banned from it we would not be having this argument. But I have my principles and will not back down from them no matter who gets pissed off by them. When I see someone as treacherous as you guys, I make sure you get called out for your hate.

So stop playing the victim.....no one admires a crybaby, Stephan.

NUR

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Apr 12, 2020, 11:20:27 PM4/12/20
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On Monday, 13 April 2020 13:17:47 UTC+10, The Honorable Skeptic wrote:
> I always wonder what rhetorical stunts you Bayanis might pull next to wiggle out of the verbal binds I put you in

The verbal binds only exist in the windwmills of your deranged mind, Don Quixote. You are clearly a retarded shill

https://youtu.be/_RxF4TJuP70

https://wahidazal.blogspot.com/2020/04/is-dale-husband-retarded-part-1.html

Podcast Notes

SA 1701 admits common cause with bahai faith.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/talk.religion.bahai/ZzmTJW-x-nc
--

https://www.reddit.com/r/exbahai/comments/fxlfu2/two_different_comments_on_my_blog/
Seeker_Alpha1701

“Then you need to start acting like an exBahai and not a Bayani cultist. ExBahais should stick together against their common enemy, the Baha'i Faith, but you Bayanis only care about your own and condemn anyone not like you. You are a threat to our cause because you try to separate the Bab from Baha'u'llah. That is simply nonsense. You just can't get over the truth, that the Bab failed. Therefore, Baha'u'llah deserved to fail too.”

Screenshot here,

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The Primal Point’s letter to 238 (i.e. Baha’ullah)
http://bayanic.com/showPict.php?id=some&ref=42&err=0&curr=42
(original handwriting)

Transcript cited in ʿIzzīyah Khānūm tanbīh al-nāʾimīn (Exhortation to the Slumberers), (ed.) Siyyid Miqdad Nabavi-Razavi (Tehran: nashr-i-nigāh-i-muʿāṣir, 1394 solar/2015-6 CE), 186-7, and elsewhere.

“…From the element of the Most Splendorous (az ʿunṣur-i-abhāʾ), namely Yaḥyā [i.e. Ṣubḥ-i-Azal], the written tablets (alvāḥ-i-mastūrih), which hath disclosed from the simple substance of ecstatic spiritual attraction, were perused, thanks be the discloser of majesty, majestic and tremendous be he! Exercise a perfect watchfulness over the spirit and vitality (rūḥ va irtivāh) of that considered one [i.e. Ṣubḥ-i-Azal] so that the fierce simoom winds (aryāḥ-i-mushriqa) do not settle upon the heart of that inhabitant; and, in writing and dictation, the means of joy and delight in the acme of perfection should be facilitated for his sake such that he, absolutely, never ever beholds any grief or sorrow, neither secretly nor openly. And take the utmost care of him and his treasured works (āthār-i-makhzūna) until your own time arrives (tā vaqt-i-khud), for God is with the patient!” (my trans.)
--

Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Soviet_invasion_of_Iran

Mohammad-Ali Foroughi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Ali_Foroughi

Dale Husband, friend of Baha'is, White Supremacists, Nazis, Fascists, Rapists, and.....anyone perverted and fucked up like him. Enemy of women and anyone "not white"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/talk.religion.bahai/pydVNFD3l-Y


The Honorable Skeptic

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Apr 12, 2020, 11:38:41 PM4/12/20
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Here we go with the lame spamfests again. So what else is to be expected from someone who can't really deal with the totality of my case against him and his professed beliefs?

NUR

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Apr 13, 2020, 12:14:02 AM4/13/20
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The Honorable Skeptic

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Apr 13, 2020, 12:09:01 PM4/13/20
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Well, I stand corrected. There was indeed an actual invasion of Iran by British and Soviet troops during World War II. I only assumed otherwise because I am so used to Wahid Azal constantly lying about absolutely everything else.

One correct point does not make up for all the bullshit you and Stephan Beyer have vomited at me and other exBahais in the past, however.

eku...@yahoo.com

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Apr 13, 2020, 1:44:30 PM4/13/20
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So, Dale, blaming others for your lack of research and fact checking.

I would call that gas-lighting, ese, but you ain't skilled enough at it.

And the 'all other exbahais'...
Do you have any idea how many exbahais there are on the planet?
Your generalization to your own little online circle shows your narcissism!

daleh...@gmail.com

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Apr 13, 2020, 3:57:36 PM4/13/20
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Stop projecting, you deranged fraud. It's a matter of credibility. Once I catch you lying outright about anything, that naturally causes me to question EVERYTHING you claim. And fact checking has discredited you more than once, on obvious things you should have been truthful about.

I was hesitant to admit I was wrong on one point, because your ego is massive enough as it is. But telling the truth, even before enemies, is more important than protecting my bruised pride.

NUR

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Apr 13, 2020, 6:44:47 PM4/13/20
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On Tuesday, 14 April 2020 02:09:01 UTC+10, The Honorable Skeptic wrote:
> Well, I stand corrected.

You stand corrected on everything, beginning with your waste of an oxygen thieving life. That is the enth time you have been corrected and found to be standing with your tiny penis in your hand pissing in the wind, Gomer.

Is Dale Husband retarded? Part 1
https://youtu.be/_RxF4TJuP70
https://wahidazal.blogspot.com/2020/04/is-dale-husband-retarded-part-1.html

daleh...@gmail.com

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Apr 13, 2020, 10:07:02 PM4/13/20
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See, even when you win at something, you cannot be gracious in your victory. And you wonder why I despise and distrust you so much. The world will be better off without cultists like you in it.

https://wahidazal.blogspot.com/2020/04/a-coronavirus-prayer.html

Hell was made for monsters like you. You don't believe in God any more than I do, unless your God is actually Satan, the supreme enemy of mankind, just as you imagine yourself my enemy. But I'm only a symbol of what you hate, because unlike Stephen Beyer and other brainwashed freaks, I insist on thinking for myself. As long as freethinkers exist, you will be exposed as a fraud everywhere. That's why you tell lies about me and make video after video after video strawmanning, defaming, and insulting me with bullshit. What a pathetic waste of time!

eku...@yahoo.com

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Apr 13, 2020, 10:52:17 PM4/13/20
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Four posts back was me not Wahid, but from your initial reply it looks like you missed that.
Your inability to observe is pathetic; pinche pendejo!

daleh...@gmail.com

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Apr 13, 2020, 11:41:29 PM4/13/20
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On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:52:17 PM UTC-5, eku...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Four posts back was me not Wahid, but from your initial reply it looks like you missed that.
> Your inability to observe is pathetic; pinche pendejo!

Sockpuppetry is one of the many things Wahid is known for. If it looks and sounds like a rat....

It doesn't matter who you are; if you are a supporter of Wahid Azal and his Bayani cult, you are despicable and worthy only of my absolute contempt. You are as guilty as he is of being a fraud. Just like rank and file Mormons are to be despised as much as Joseph Smith, because simple logic and facts discredit Mormonism. Ignoring them is their fault.

I came here to confront Azal one more time, to further prove what an @$$#hole he is. He did not disappoint. And I came away with more damning evidence of his lunacy.....and yours.

NUR

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Apr 14, 2020, 2:05:27 AM4/14/20
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On Tuesday, 14 April 2020 13:41:29 UTC+10, daleh...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:52:17 PM UTC-5, eku...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Four posts back was me not Wahid, but from your initial reply it looks like you missed that.
> > Your inability to observe is pathetic; pinche pendejo!
>
> Sockpuppetry is one of the many things Wahid is known for.

According to sock-puppeteers in the BIA and your two KAPO sock-puppeteer friends. Try again.

You are joke, Gomer.
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stephan Beyer

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Apr 14, 2020, 8:48:15 AM4/14/20
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DH
I realize now you need special help. Perhaps with time and study you can overcome your learning disability.

Blaming iran for becoming a monarchy in 1953 as an American is problematic. Its problematic because Operation Ajax has already been declassified. This could be considered as racist as blaming the Guatemalans for being a right wing government in the 50s. (when united fruit and the cia overthrew their country and turned into a banana plantation. )

I would advise you to better conceal your ethnocentrism xenophobia and intolerance. maybe with time being silent about these biases they will minimize and allow you to be less of threat to your self and others.
SB

daleh...@gmail.com

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Apr 14, 2020, 11:48:24 AM4/14/20
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My point, Stevie, was that any effort of the Bayanis to reform Iran's government came to nothing, because of the events of 1953 and since 1979 which totally destroyed and democracy Iran may have had. I wasn't denying American involvement in the events of 1953, so your strawmanning is laughable.

I need help? I'm not the one who joined a cult led by a toxic lunatic.

NUR

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Apr 14, 2020, 5:10:16 PM4/14/20
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On Wednesday, 15 April 2020 01:48:24 UTC+10, daleh...@gmail.com wrote:
> My point, Stevie, was that any effort of the Bayanis to reform Iran's >government came to nothing,
>because of the events of 1953
>and since 1979 which totally destroyed and democracy Iran may have had.

What a shallow, dumb and chidish reading of history. If you want to walk down that road, one can make the same silly argument and say that you white liberals are losers of American history because by making Killary your candidate you handed your country on a silver platter to Trump who has wreaked permanent damage on it just as you are about to hand it back to Trump by making Biden your candidate. Be that as it may, America was never a democracy to begin with so Trump is a natural outcome of the contradiction that is America. However, as hard as Khomeini tried to make Iran a complete theocratic dictatorship, he couldn't, since even he had to give some level of process and parliamentary democracy to the Islamic Republic -- and that is the legacy of the Constitutional Revolution which is a direct legacy of the Bayanis. In other words, whether secular or religious, the shadow of the Bayan hangs long over Iran on all sides of the spectrum.


> I'm not the one who joined a cult led by a toxic lunatic.

Yeah, you did. You joined the baha'i faith and continue to bat for them, Gomer: the baha'i faith founded and led by a toxic lunatic named Mirza Husayn Ali Nuri. Now go run along now and into the loving embrace of Michael Zargarov.





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NUR

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Apr 14, 2020, 8:11:06 PM4/14/20
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Correction: a toxic, murderous and meglomaniacal lunatic named Mirza Husayn Ali Nuri!

Additionally, without Ali Shariati there would have been no Islamic Revolution in Iran since Shariati and his father Mohammad-Taqi were both Bayanis, and were consistently accused as such by the mullahs. The speeches and writings of Ali Shariati galvanized an entire generation and mobilized them for direct confrontation with the Shah's western propped comprador dictatorship. It is the legacy of Shariati's democratic socialist Shi'i Islam (which is in fact a not too carefully camouflaged Bayan to those who know how to read between the lines) that prevented Khomeini and the Islamic Republic from sliding into a totalatarian theocratic dystopia. Given this, the democratic and socialist elements to the Islamic Republic of Iran today is indeed a legacy of Ali Shariati and so by implication a legacy of the Bab. This means that not only have we won, but until the time that the mullahs finally sold out to Mammon and became more concerned in lining their own pockets and maintaining their power rather than revolutionary principles (which is also when they started to jump into bed with the Baha'is), we managed to defeat the Baha'is and their malevolent influence and keep them from taking outright power in Iran. And since this is the case, you may wish to reasses your ignorant and delusional pseudo-analysis of contemporary Iranian history and events, Gomer.

stephan Beyer

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Apr 15, 2020, 7:12:03 AM4/15/20
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DH
You know very little about Irans history and you don't seem to care much to learn.

However if you keep blaming people conquered by the usa for being conquered you will have a harder time concealing your racial views.
SB

stephan Beyer

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Apr 15, 2020, 7:41:11 AM4/15/20
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DH
I am not a member of the Fatimiya sufi order.

Are you referring to all followers of the Bab and Bayan as a cult led by a toxic lunatic?

SB

eku...@yahoo.com

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Apr 15, 2020, 1:03:05 PM4/15/20
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Dale you fucking puto!
Chinga tu madre!!!

All your proving is what a piece of shit you are.

Let me give you a fucking lesson on human nature.

When you look for someone to be an asshole, they're gonna be one to you, and so will their friends, which it seems you don't really have any of... gee... wonder fuckin why....

You try to justify having piss poor attention skills (and... shit... I even gave you a huge motherfucker of a clue, calling you ese) by blaming other people, which shows you have the mindset of a toddler, whining how everything can't be exactly as you like it.

You rage and whine because you're a weak man without the discipline to observe for even a little while what you're actually seeing and what is the story playing in your head.

You made yourself look like a cunt the first time and you're doing it again.

Go smoke a joint, or get laid, or hit a punching bag for a while, or something to that effect, because if you don't learn to chill the fuck out over the world not meeting your narcissistic expectations, you'll soon pop a blood vessel in self-righteous indignation.

NUR

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Apr 15, 2020, 5:24:59 PM4/15/20
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Interesting that his two Kapo friends have left him to his fate and won't even come here anymore to defend him.

NUR

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Apr 15, 2020, 5:39:13 PM4/15/20
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On Thursday, 16 April 2020 03:03:05 UTC+10, eku...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Dale you fucking puto!
> Chinga tu madre!!!
>
> All your proving is what a piece of shit you are.
>
> Let me give you a fucking lesson on human nature.
>
> When you look for someone to be an asshole, they're gonna be one to you, and so will their friends, which it seems you don't really have any of... gee... wonder fuckin why....
>
> You try to justify having piss poor attention skills (and... shit... I even gave you a huge motherfucker of a clue, calling you ese) by blaming other people, which shows you have the mindset of a toddler, whining how everything can't be exactly as you like it.
>
> You rage and whine because you're a weak man without the discipline to observe for even a little while what you're actually seeing and what is the story playing in your head.
>
> You made yourself look like a cunt the first time and you're doing it again.
>
> Go smoke a joint, or get laid,

On that note, take Michael Zargarov on his offer, Gomer. It'll do you a world of good.

NUR

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