Latest news on the Indian NSA
PaulHammond
trb yet:
There's more on the embezzlement story from New Delhi:
HC stays arrest of Lotus temple trustees
http://news.webindia123.com/news/articles/India/20060818/425696.html
High Court stays arrest of Lotus temple trustees
http://www.hindu.com/2006/08/19/stories/2006081914800400.htm
There are variations in the two reports and it's worthwhile reading
both.
Apparently Counsellor Payam Shoghi has been arrested, and the
investigation
hasn't stopped there.
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Links to the original stories:
Original story:
Bahai trustees accused of embezzling funds
http://www.bahaisonline.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=365&Itemid=2
and follow-up:
Letters to Editor: Baseless Report
http://bahaisonline.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=382&Itemid=2
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Just FYI
John MacLeod
"PaulHammond" <paha...@onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
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> This was posted today - the news doesn't seem to have reached
> trb yet:
>
> There's more on the embezzlement story from New Delhi:
>
I'm still finding it hard to follow. Is it an embezzlement story or an
espionage story or both? Is there anyone who understands Indian court
procedures who can tell us what it all means. Does it mean that the police
will arrest the alleged perpetrators at an agreed time unless the hearing
finds a different conclusion? It still seems a strange way to handle a case
in which people are alleged to have sold defence secrets.
I see it now appears to be the Temple Management committee rather than the
NSA per se involved though I would imagine thats pretty much a
technicality - though it does explain how a councillor is involved I guess.
888
it.
All Bad
888 wrote:
> Paul Hammond posting these updates has DAMAGE CONTROL written all over
> it.
>
When you post what he posted, after he posted it, it has "Chickenhead
Parrot" written all over it.
- All Bad
AyahuascaGnostic
elsewhere ;-)
DEATH TO BAHA'ISM! LONG LIVE THE NEW DELHI POLICE!
W
Has...@aol.com
> espionage story or both?
It's sounds like these disgruntled employees tried to throw in anything
and everything. And there is probably just enough truth to part of it
to lend a false credibility to the more outrageous charges. The
specific charge against Payam Shoghi seems to revolve around passports
obtained decades ago. During the eighties Iranian Baha'is were
desperate for passports. It is plausible that some used illegal means
to get them. I doubt if there is much truth to the rest of the
allegations; certainly not to the espionage charges.
PaulHammond
Steve posted it to Irfan9 first.
So much for "ears to the ground" and "internal sources".
You
were still whining to people who weren't Steve to remind you
of the date on the original article last week!
Steve Marshall
>I'm still finding it hard to follow. Is it an embezzlement story or an
>espionage story or both? Is there anyone who understands Indian court
>procedures who can tell us what it all means.
Hi John,
I'm struggling to understand how the system works, too. Lots of new
words and acronyms to learn - hawala, FIR, HC etc.
Wikipedia has been my friend
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Information_Report
or go straight to the source document:
http://www.humanrightsinitiative.org/publications/police/fir.pdf
>I see it now appears to be the Temple Management committee rather than the
>NSA per se involved though I would imagine thats pretty much a
>technicality - though it does explain how a councillor is involved I guess.
The initial news report certainly mentioned the "Trustees of the
National Spiritual Assembly of Bahais of India", but I agree that not
too much should be read into that. I don't think the reporters (or
perhaps the court) have figured out the hierarchy yet. After all, in
the same report, one of the accused was described as being the
"general manager of finance with the spiritual organisation" and then
Payam Shoghi, a Counsellor, was described as a "trustee with the
society"
http://www.bahaisonline.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=365&Itemid=2
It's certainly a story to watch, but it could go either way.
ka kite
Steve
For me, a flag that I’m NOT allowed to burn is a symbol that the
government is too intrusive in my life. And it’s an insult to anyone
who died to defend freedom. But that’s just me. You might prefer your
symbols of freedom to have as many restrictions as possible.
http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2006/06/burning_flags.html
AyahuascaGnostic
PaulHammond wrote:
> AyahuascaGnostic wrote:
> > But he only posted to TRB. I've crossposted it all over USENET and
> > elsewhere ;-)
> >
> > DEATH TO BAHA'ISM! LONG LIVE THE NEW DELHI POLICE!
> >
> > W
>
> Steve posted it to Irfan9 first.
>
> So much for "ears to the ground" and "internal sources".
Yep, which is why I told you in your Viv incarnation about a pending
development days before the articles were even printed or Comrade
Marshall even sent anything to your stupid list ;-)
AyahuascaGnostic
Really? Then why would Payam Shoghi feel the need to flee to Colombia
and get himself arrested at Indira Ghandhi airport.
John MacLeod
"Steve Marshall" <asm...@es.co.nz> wrote in message
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>
> Wikipedia has been my friend
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Information_Report
>
> or go straight to the source document:
> http://www.humanrightsinitiative.org/publications/police/fir.pdf
>
>
the Hindustani Times didn't report it. Is he still in custody or out on
bail or what?
All Bad
AyahuascaGnostic wrote:
Why would anyone but you expect an Iranian national to stay in India
indefinitely?
- All Bad
888
All Bad wrote:
> Why would anyone but you expect an Iranian national to stay in India
> indefinitely?
Because, like you admitted, he was the Counsellor for Asia (now
arrested, held in custody, for trying to flee law enforcement in
India.).
W
Finnegan's Wake
"John MacLeod" <jrma...@consultant.com> wrote in message
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Short answer is in the affirmative ... he is still in custody or out on bail
... can't help you with the "or what" bit as that might involve a touch of
the old invasion of privacy thing!
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