A statement of the Roman Catholic Church re the Baha'i Faith
george.fleming2
certain ex baha'is (views on the Baha'i Faith) on TRB who happen to be
Catholic.
What if I reported Robin to her Parish Priest (inclosing this document)
telling him that this woman has the freedom to join the Catholic Church
after she left the Bahai Faith, but she continues to associate with
anti-Baha'dissidents on the internet attacking the Baha'i-faith.
What would be his response?....................George
A statement of the Roman Catholic Church re the Baha'i Faith
Getting to Know People of Other Faiths No. 8
W H A T I S T H E B A H A ' I F A I T H ?
_Introduction_
In the Vatican II 'Declaration on the relationship of the Church
with Non-Christians' we find that the Church speaks with warmth
and openness and greets People of Faith as partners in a single
great enterprise. These religions contain much that is good and
holy and provide ways of salvation for millions of people all
over the world. Throughout the documents of Vatican II we find
encouragement to respect, accept and meet as friends, those who
profess faiths different from our own. The Baha'i Faith will be
introduced here in this spirit.
_Who are the Baha'is?_
The Baha'i founders sprang from Islamic roots, but are seen by
the Baha'is as founding a religion that fulfils all previous
religions. Today Baha'is are people who formerly had different
religious backgrounds. They have been Christians, Jews, Muslims,
Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Zoroastrians or else they had no
religion at all. They give equal homage to all the past
prophets, but believe that religion progressively evolves, and
that Baha'u'llah is God's spokesman for this age. Although
Baha'is are from different religious, racial, national, economic
and social classes, the Baha'i teachings has given them a higher
loyalty--the loyalty to humanity.
To a Baha'i there is no demarcation between religion and everyday
life. The most important prayer, Baha'is say, is a person's
daily life. Religion, in other words, is an attitude towards God
reflected in life.
Today there are between 5 and 6 million Baha'is in the world,
extending over more than three hundred and forty countries,
territories and island groups. In England there are 6,000
registered Baha'is (1989) with 180 local Assemblies, resident in
over 400 localities. At least 9 people are needed to form a
local assembly. The Scriptures of the Baha'i Faith consist of
the writings of the founders and are translated into over six
hundred languages. The rapid growth they have experienced puts
them in the category of a world religion, the youngest in the
line of the prophetic tradition.
_Origins of the Baha'i Faith_
The Forerunner of the Baha'i Faith was a young Persian merchant
known as the Bab (the Gate), who in 1844 proclaimed Himself to be
a Messenger of God and a herald of One greater than Himself--One
who would inaugurate a new era in religion and civilization.
Like earlier Messengers of God, the Bab was opposed and
denounced. After six years of persecution He was publicly
martyred at the age of 30 in Tabriz.
Its founder was Baha'u'llah (the Glory of God), a Persian
nobleman who in 1863 declared Himself to be the One whose coming
the Bab and all the previous Prophets had foretold. Like His
predecessor, He was bitterly opposed and persecuted. During
nearly forty years of exile and imprisonment He committed to
writing the teachings of His revelation, some of them in letters
to the most important kings and leaders of religion, as well and
teaching and training His followers. His fourth and last place
of banishment, reached in 1865, was the prison city of 'Akka
(Acre), Palestine, where He passed away in 1892 at the age of
seventy-four.
Its authorised interpreter and exemplar was 'Abdu'l-Baha (the
servant of the Glory), eldest son of Baha'u'llah, who was
appointed by his father as the Centre of His Covenant and the one
to whom all must turn for instruction and guidance. 'Abdu'l-Baha
was the close companion and constant helper of his father, whose
sufferings he shared. He remained a prisoner until 1908, when
the old regime in Turkey was overthrown and all religious and
political prisoners were liberated. Afterwards he travelled
widely in Egypt, Europe and America, explaining the principles of
the Faith and inspiring and directing the activities of its
followers throughout the world. He passed away in Haifa in 1921,
mourned by people of all faiths. His life was and continues to
be a shining example to all. In his will and testament,
'Abdu'l-Baha appointed his grandson, Shoghi Effendi, to be the
Guardian of the Faith, and the interpreter of its scripture.
Under his guiding hand, the faith spread rapidly. He passed away
in London in 1957. Since 1963, the Faith has been under the
guidance of the Universal House of Justice.
_The Baha'i Faith_
Proclaims: The Oneness of God, the Oneness of Religion and of
Mankind, and the equality of men and women. It encourages the
elimination of prejudice of all kinds, universal education,
elimination of extremes of wealth and poverty, the protection of
cultural diversity. It also advocates individual search after
truth, the harmony of science and religion, use of an auxiliary
universal language and world government.
_The Baha'i House of Worship_
A Baha'i house of worship is open to people of all nations,
races, classes and creeds. It is a place of prayer and
meditation for all, a gift from the Baha'is and a demonstration
of their faith in the oneness of God, the oneness of His Prophets
and the oneness of mankind.
There is one major Baha'i House of Worship in each continent.
For local regular gatherings the Baha'is hold meetings in their
homes or in hired halls. The community has neither a priesthood
nor rituals. The Baha'is see their teachings as a ringing call
to action. They see them as offering hope, courage and vision,
in a world beset with universal problems.
_Baha'i Administration
Consultation is the keynote of all Baha'i administration.
There is no clergy and no ritual.
The Scripture is in written form, preserved and authentic.
Administrative bodies are called Spiritual Assemblies; they are
local, national, and international. All Assemblies meet in a
spirit of prayer.
These spiritual Assemblies are elected by the people, but their
responsibility is trust from God to whom alone they are
answerable.
There is no seeking for votes, no candidates, no platform
promises, no parties.
The Nineteen Day Feast is a community occasion, for the reading
of prayers, discussions of affairs with the Local Spiritual
Assembly, and material refreshment together.
The Universal House of Justice--an elected International body
constituted by Baha'u'llah as the supreme legislative and
governing body of the Faith--carries out its duties at the Baha'i
World Centre in Haifa Israel.
Only members of the Baha'i Faith may contribute to the Baha'i
Fund.
_Questions for discussion_
1. Baha'is clearly place great emphasis on social teaching and
the community of humankind. How do we as Christians respond
to the social teaching of the Church?
2. In what areas would cooperation with people of [the] Baha'i
Faith be most fruitful and possible?
_Suggested further reading_
'The Baha'i Faith' Leaflet published by the Baha'i publishing
Trust, 2 South Street, Oakham, Leicestershire.
'The Baha'i Faith' Booklet Ibid.
'Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah" by Baha'u'llah.
'Paris Talks' by 'Abdu'l-Baha.
'Guidelines for Today and Tomorrow' by Shoghi Effendi.
'Baha'u'llah and the New Era' by Dr. J. E. Esslemont. A complete
catalogue of Baha'i literature can be obtained by writing to :
The Baha'i Publishing Trust, 2 South Street, Oakham,
Leicerstershire LE15 6HY. [In the US, call the Baha'i
Distribution Service toll-free at 1-800-999-9019 for a free
catalog.]
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community by the Committee for Other Faiths. Understanding and
friendly relations with those who believe in God and live their
lives with religious principles and purpose contribute to the
harmony of society and the happiness of all. The series offers
useful information to those who want to overcome the obstacles of
ignorance and promote through dialogue, prayer and action the
Catholic Church's teaching of respect and love for all peoples.
The Committee is grateful to its member Sr. Elizabeth West rscj
for this contribution.
+Charles Henderson
Chairman
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george.fleming2 <george....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> What if I reported Robin to her Parish Priest (inclosing this document)
Pat Kohli
"george.fleming2" wrote:
>
> What if I reported Robin to her Parish Priest (inclosing this document)
> telling him that this woman has the freedom to join the Catholic Church
> after she left the Bahai Faith, but she continues to associate with
> anti-Baha'dissidents on the internet attacking the Baha'i-faith.
George, you've posted this ten times in the past six weeks. What if you
tell her Parish Priest that you are a spammer and have succeeded in
outdoing Fred Glaysher, that your greatest aspiration is to submerge below
the depths of the worst on TRB, and, to do it all in what has been the good
name of the Baha'i Faith? Wouldn't that be a confession?
I won't wish you good luck in that effort,
- Pat
ko...@ameritel.net
Robin Peters
>tell her Parish Priest that you are a spammer and have succeeded in
>outdoing Fred Glaysher,
I'm surprised that your ISP hasn't pulled your account by now, Flaming.
Robin Peters
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Leonard McCoy, MD, ship's surgeon, USS Enterprise
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Paul Hammond
"george.fleming2" <george....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> certain ex baha'is (views on the Baha'i Faith) on TRB who happen to be
> Catholic.
>
> What if I reported Robin to her Parish Priest (inclosing this document)
> telling him that this woman has the freedom to join the Catholic Church
> after she left the Bahai Faith, but she continues to associate with
> anti-Baha'dissidents on the internet attacking the Baha'i-faith.
>
> What would be his response?....................George
>
>
I'd think that you'd find that the Catholic church does not have the
same Stalinist pretensions to absolute control over the thoughts
and lives of their believers as the image of the Baha'i Faith
that you are pushing here.
The Catholic Church doesn't seem to have the same requirements
for ABM's for protection, or the equivalent that the supposedly
"liberal" and "tolerant" Baha'i Faith has.
Thanks for showing up that whole idea of a tolerant Baha'i
Faith as the pipe-dream which some of us thought it was,
George.
Keep up the good work!
Paul
Robin Peters
>for ABM's for protection, or the equivalent that the supposedly
>"liberal" and "tolerant" Baha'i Faith has.
But we *do* have the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith - what
used to be known as the Inquisition, boys and girls.
Need I say more? (Remember - this is a Catholic talking.)
(It must also be said, however, that unlike the Baha'i faith, we have come
around to seeing Protestants as separated brothers and sisters in Christ. We
even accept Protestant baptism as valid, as long as the denomination in
question baptizes in the name of the Trinity and has very similar baptismal
doctrines to ours. Note that I said "similar" rather than "identical." On the
other hand, the Baha'i faith doesn't recognize other Baha'i denominations at
all, except to state that their membership is Covenant-breaking, if they are
found to have been members of the Haifa branch.)
Robin Peters
>telling him that this woman has the freedom to join the Catholic Church
>after she left the Bahai Faith, but she continues to associate with
>anti-Baha'dissidents on the internet attacking the Baha'i-faith.
The reply would likely be that this is not a sin. I'm not going around
associating with the Catholic equivalent of CBers. The only concern at this
point would be whether or not I'm committing a mortal sin. Since I wouldn't be,
I don't see why you put this remark in, except to continue your anti-Catholic
bigotry.
SkorSiezak
>other hand, the Baha'i faith doesn't recognize other Baha'i denominations at
>all, except to state that their membership is Covenant-breaking, if they are
>found to have been members of the Haifa branch.)
Dear Robin,
That's because we don't want to see the Baha'i Faith fragment into a million
pieces like Christianity has.
Susan Maneck
>>telling him that this woman has the freedom to join the Catholic Church
>>after she left the Bahai Faith, but she continues to associate with
>>anti-Baha'dissidents on the internet attacking the Baha'i-faith.
>
Well, George, it would be a very good way to embarrass the Faith once again if
that is what you are out to do.
warmest, Susan
Susan Maneck
Associate Professor of History
Jackson State University
Susan Maneck
>But we *do* have the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith - what
>used to be known as the Inquisition, boys and girls.
>
Run by no less than Cardinal Ratzinger who does his best to make his
predecessors in that office proud.
Not intended as a slam against the Catholic Church, Robin, it is just that I
would like to see another Pope John in the Vatican and I think instead
Ratzinger will be next in line. I think once you get him, the House of Justice
members will all look like flaming liberals.
Robin Peters
>if
>that is what you are out to do.
And that is precisely what he would do. As I have stated, it is certainly not a
matter to be brought up in the confessional, as it is not considered a sin in
the Catholic Church to do what I do - provided, of course, I don't do something
in the process which is itself a mortal sin.
george.fleming2
sma...@aol.com wrote on 29/9/02 10:10 pm:
>>> What if I reported Robin to her Parish Priest (inclosing this document)
>>> telling him that this woman has the freedom to join the Catholic Church
>>> after she left the Bahai Faith, but she continues to associate with
>>> anti-Baha'dissidents on the internet attacking the Baha'i-faith.
>>
> Well, George, it would be a very good way to embarrass the Faith once again if
> that is what you are out to do.
> warmest, Susan
Another instance when Dr Maneck misses the point altogether. All is in her
tiny head is someone she dissaproves of embarrassing her idea of her
religion. The Baha'i faith is the only religion were an ex member can report
a member to its institution for sending e/mails to the internet he/she does
not approve of.
Had I carried out the above act, the Priest would tell me to go and see a
shrink...........................................George
Paul Hammond
"Robin Peters" <snoop...@aol.comspamness> wrote in message
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> >What if I reported Robin to her Parish Priest (inclosing this document)
> >telling him that this woman has the freedom to join the Catholic Church
> >after she left the Bahai Faith, but she continues to associate with
> >anti-Baha'dissidents on the internet attacking the Baha'i-faith.
>
> The reply would likely be that this is not a sin. I'm not going around
> associating with the Catholic equivalent of CBers. The only concern at
this
> point would be whether or not I'm committing a mortal sin. Since I
wouldn't be,
> I don't see why you put this remark in, except to continue your
anti-Catholic
> bigotry.
>
Well, I didn't actually understand what georgie dear was getting at at all
here, anyway.
Because, what I read of that long article he quoted in its entirety
appeared to be a fairly objective and uncontroverisial paper on
the Baha'is, from, of course, a Christian perspective, aimed
at someone who doesn't know anything about the Baha'i
Faith - and it's main thrust appeared to be to help
people to understand where Baha'is were coming from,
even if only as a prelude to conversion.
So, surely, if someone wrote to him about you, his response
might likely be "good for you, trying to get those Baha'is to
understand Jesus better".
Nowhere in that article did I see any mention that a catholic
ought to "keep away from those nasty Baha'is".
Paul
Robin Peters
>ought to "keep away from those nasty Baha'is".
>
Well, knowing George's behavior pattern on this NG, my hunch is that he was
using a relatively neutral thing - going to my parish priest and talking about
associating with people here on TRB that George considers dissidents - and
trying to besmirch either my reputation or that of the Church with it. As in,
"isn't it a mortal sin to associate with Baha'i and ex-Baha'i dissidents?" At
least that was what I read in his posts.
Paul Hammond
> >Nowhere in that article did I see any mention that a catholic
> >ought to "keep away from those nasty Baha'is".
> >
>
> Well, knowing George's behavior pattern on this NG, my hunch is that he was
> using a relatively neutral thing - going to my parish priest and talking about
> associating with people here on TRB that George considers dissidents - and
> trying to besmirch either my reputation or that of the Church with it. As in,
> "isn't it a mortal sin to associate with Baha'i and ex-Baha'i dissidents?" At
> least that was what I read in his posts.
>
> Robin Peters
Me too.
But, I didn't see any indication that this attitude was shared
by the author of the long article about the Baha'is that
he quoted.
Since he was talking about reporting you to that person, that's
why I thought that didn't make any sense - his "evidence" seemed
rather to undermine his position than support it.
Paul
george.fleming2
No 1. Dermod is a secular Catholic who reported a George member of the
Baha'i Faith to a Baha'i Auxilary Board Member and tell him one of his
members is on TRB making inflamatory statements about the Catholic Church.
No 2 George is a Baha'i who reports Robin a member of the Catholic Church to
her local Priest and tells him one of his parishioners is on TRB making
inflamatory startements about the Bahai Faith.
Do you think the Priest would act the same as the ABM did in this case.
George
in article c977f97b.02093...@posting.google.com, Paul Hammond at
paha...@onetel.net.uk wrote on 30/9/02 10:28 pm:
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Dermod Ryder
"george.fleming2" <george....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> No 1. Dermod is a secular Catholic who reported a George member of
the
> Baha'i Faith to a Baha'i Auxilary Board Member and tell him one of
his
> members is on TRB making inflamatory statements about the Catholic
Church.
>
> No 2 George is a Baha'i who reports Robin a member of the Catholic
Church to
> her local Priest and tells him one of his parishioners is on TRB
making
> inflamatory startements about the Bahai Faith.
>
> Do you think the Priest would act the same as the ABM did in this
case.
I would like to think that he would.
Robin Peters
Especially since the ABM in your (Dermod's) instance got into a hissy fit when
asked to take real live action, rather than seeing the merit in your charges
and acting accordingly, at least to investigate the truth of your statements.
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Robin Peters <snoop...@aol.comspamness> wrote in message
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> Especially since the ABM in your (Dermod's) instance got into a hissy fit
when
> asked to take real live action, rather than seeing the merit in your
charges
> and acting accordingly, at least to investigate the truth of your
statements.
>
> http://www.epinions.com/content_22796003460/stf_~1
Dermod Ryder
"Robin Peters" <snoop...@aol.comspamness> wrote in message
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>
> Especially since the ABM in your (Dermod's) instance got into a
hissy fit when
> asked to take real live action, rather than seeing the merit in your
charges
> and acting accordingly, at least to investigate the truth of your
statements.
Since you, Robin, are more au fait with matters Catholic, being a
fully enrolled, paid up member who has complied with membership
requirements with regards to the Easter duty etc., could you please
enlighten me/us as to what a "secular Catholic" is? Indeed is such a
term in current usage?
Dermod.
Robin Peters
Maybe. All I remember is the Grim Reaper mentioning that he had talked to the
local ABM - I believe the one for protection - and the ABM gave him some big
song and dance about how s/he was only there to offer "guidance."
Dermod seemed to think that was a load of manure. (Smelly manure at that.)
Susan Maneck
>song and dance about how s/he was only there to offer "guidance."
>
>Dermod seemed to think that was a load of manure.
No, that is precisely correct. Board Members and Counselors can only advice,
they cannot order Baha'is to do this or that. Only the institutions of the
rulers can do that.
Robin Peters
>they cannot order Baha'is to do this or that.
OK. I thought it was a case of what Dr. McCoy calls the bureaucratic mentality,
the sole constant in the universe. (He says that at the end of the fourth Star
Trek movie, when the gang is getting a new Enterprise.)
Robin Peters
I'll do my best to define the term, with the understanding that I'm giving my
own definition and not something out of the dictionary.
When I use the term, I mean someone who might have been baptized Catholic, and
may even have made all his Sacraments of Initiation (baptism, First Communion,
and confirmation) on time for his particular area, but is living in such a
fashion as to make observers believe something else about his religious
beliefs. In particular, observers might be - I emphasize, they *might* be - led
to believe that the person being observed does not have any religious belief at
all, which is why the term "secular" comes into play. I think of "secular"
society as being a society with no mention of religion or belief in God.
Dermod Ryder
"Susan Maneck " <sma...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > the ABM gave him some big
> >song and dance about how s/he was only there to offer "guidance."
> >
> >Dermod seemed to think that was a load of manure.
>
> No, that is precisely correct. Board Members and Counselors can only
advice,
> they cannot order Baha'is to do this or that. Only the institutions
of the
> rulers can do that.
On receiving instructions from the ABMs ad Counsellors to do this or
that otherwise they'll be in naughty doo-doos with the Grumpies.
Robin Peters
>that otherwise they'll be in naughty doo-doos with the Grumpies.
Dermod, I'm going to take the risk of sounding totally stupid here. I gather
that was your precise point - to get the ABMs and Counsellors to take your
complaints up what is best called the chain of command (no matter what else the
BIGS might call the AO, it's still a chain of command) and, therefore, to get
said chain of command to do something about George's spamming TRB.
Rabia1844
>On receiving instructions from the ABMs ad Counsellors to do this or
>that otherwise they'll be in naughty doo-doos with the Grumpies.
>
The Learned do what the Rulers tell them, not vis a versa.
Dermod Ryder
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I'm starting to like you! You do have a sense of humour!
>
Dermod Ryder
"Robin Peters" <snoop...@aol.comspamness> wrote in message
> >On receiving instructions from the ABMs ad Counsellors to do this
or
> >that otherwise they'll be in naughty doo-doos with the Grumpies.
>
> Dermod, I'm going to take the risk of sounding totally stupid here.
I gather
> that was your precise point - to get the ABMs and Counsellors to
take your
> complaints up what is best called the chain of command (no matter
what else the
> BIGS might call the AO, it's still a chain of command) and,
therefore, to get
> said chain of command to do something about George's spamming TRB.
There's a slight but important error in this take on the situation,
Robin.
I actually never complained to the AO - ABMs or whatever. During the
preparatory spam fest, I did inform the ABM that a certain person had
made what I took to be a threat against me and suggested that it would
be in the best interests of the ABM, that certain person and the AF
that the former took such steps as he deemed appropriate to avoid my
taking certain steps that I deemed appropriate. And I did that at the
request of a BIGS.
When the anti-Catholic remarks were made, at the request of a BIGS, I
advised the Secretary of the RBC (who I have known for many years) of
their existence but made no complaint. Why should I? They were
making my case for me. And when the remarks were made that were, IMO,
libellous of me, I again made no complaint to the AO. At the request
of a BIGS, who officially did complain and has received no response
thereto of any kind whatsoever, I did forward certain posts to the LSA
concerned but I made no complaint concerning them.
These people are absolutely incompetent prats who couldn't deal a hand
of cards never mind deal with a complaint. WTF do you think I would
waste my time complaining to them? But knowing that they knew what
was going on and knowing how much twittering would result, I got my
laughs out of it.
The dish is still warm and revenge is a dish best eaten cold!
Dermod.
Pat Kohli
Dermod Ryder wrote:
>
> The dish is still warm and revenge is a dish best eaten cold!
Given that certian parties have been absent, and abruptly not heard from
in the past two days, I'd say the dish is cool and still cooling. Since,
I like it that way, I suppose I've no more to say on the matter.
Blessings!
- Pat
ko...@ameritel.net
Robin Peters
You must know some Klingons, then. (Or is it Romulans? I'll have to watch Star
Trek II: The Wrath of Khan to jog my memory.)
Dermod Ryder
"Robin Peters" <snoop...@aol.comspamness> wrote in message
> >revenge is a dish best eaten cold!
>
> You must know some Klingons, then. (Or is it Romulans? I'll have to
watch Star
> Trek II: The Wrath of Khan to jog my memory.)
Klingons? Yes! All the Grumpies qualify - cling on like grim death
to power as the ship founders! And the Wrath of Khan fizzles on those
who call them for what they are!
Dermod.
Dermod Ryder
"Pat Kohli" <kohliCUT...@ameritel.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Dermod Ryder wrote:
>
> >
> > The dish is still warm and revenge is a dish best eaten cold!
>
> Given that certian parties have been absent, and abruptly not heard
from
> in the past two days, I'd say the dish is cool and still cooling.
Since,
> I like it that way, I suppose I've no more to say on the matter.
Ah yes, Pat! The Guardian, The DST, Son of DST aka Score Sleaze and
Rabid of 1844 are no longer with us. Bless their cotton socks!
Long may that happy state continue!
It reminded me somewhat of those westerns of yesteryear - you
remember - Randolph Scott (bow and adore!) and his faithful sidekick,
George "Gabby" Hayes, riding into town and shooting three shades of
doo doo out of all and sundry whilst many small boys in the cinema
egged them on relentlessly and enthusiastically. Sadly there the
similarity ended! For the DST is no Randolph Scott (bow and adore!).
He, being the epitome of the all action hero, had no gaffer whereas
she has and he admitted defeat early on in the gunfight, advising the
DST to hightail it out of town. Poor old Gabby was left all adrift,
standing alone and forlorn when all guns were turned on him, even
those of his erstwhile companion, which was indeed her only means of
egress, all the while shouting that she was only an innocent
bystander.
But the day of atonement is nigh!
Beannacht De leat,
Diarmuid.
Robin Peters
>to power as the ship founders!
<g> Do they have those funny ridges on their foreheads?
>And the Wrath of Khan fizzles on those
>who call them for what they are!
I can just hear Khan saying now, "For hate's sake I spit my last breath at
thee."
Robin Peters
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