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Sayfullahus yahoo.com
Jan 12, 2012, 3:30:17 AM1/12/12
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That is really true. My former "Sufi shaykh" Taner Vargonen alias
Taner Ansari, recently visited us in Bosnia. He was our "shaykh"
for
many years, claiming to have good Sufi tradition originated from
Ayni
Ali Baba tekke in Istanbul. He also has a web page. But, when he
come
here, after all these years, he caused a great confusion. He was
teaching that humans are created by aliens, which altered their
genes
in primitive humans gens. He was teaching that Qur'an is created
(Mutezili aqidah). He was teaching that meleks, Jibril a.s. for
example, are just portals, wormholes... He was teaching that Jesus
spent his life in Tibet, then go to UK through Bosnia, and that UK
royal family originates from Jesus (Isa a.s.). He was teaching
that
people can reincarnate in other lives. He said, for example if 12
years old kid die, "Allah would be not injustice not to give him
another chance"... The list of blasphemies was long, so we decided
and
left this person. After that we found a link on his web page where
it
is stated that Baha'i, Husein Neuzil, "a sufi shaykh", imoprted
him
into USA "to organize Islamic Sufi order of Qadiri-Rifa'i Tariqa".
From that point we become interested in his Baha'i background,
especially since while he was here he never did namaz, salat, what
was
expected from him as "sufi Shaykh". His words have been, "Allah
will
clean tariqa with us"... He claimed there are no true shaykhs in
Bosnia, and that he wanted "to raise a modern shaykhs here"...
Than we
saw a person which he calls "shaykha" receives greetings for
Hanuka, a
Jewish celebrity. Off course, I am not against anybody celebrates
its
holly days, but how can anybody call non-Muslim person an Islamic
shaykh? He also praised Masons, for them he says to be good
people.
These people misuse a knowledge about Islam. In this case he
constructed a story from true fragments. Yes, there was shaykh
Muhyiddin Ensari baba k.s., and Ayni Ali Baba tekke exist in
Istanbul,
but this particular man, Taner, was never his halifa, as he
claims.
Why I say this? Because, there was background story which you can
partially check, and from that conclude it is true. But, no of his
blasphemies have been, and they are still not declared on his web
page. This Baha'i use his web page, under false flag of Sufism, to
ketch people. There is no single word about "aliens created
humans" on
the web page. There you will find many stories about Abdul Qadir
Jilani and Sayyid Ahmad Rifa'i, and some noble shaykhs. These are
spies methods, and I agree that Muslim people need to be
especially
cautious of accepting people claiming "to be so opened for all
religious", but in fundamental they negate all religions. Islam is
religion of peace, but also it has a right to stay authentic
without
intervention and imports. That is why I am against all subversive
and
munafeeq methods like these ones.
Taner Ansari, recently visited us in Bosnia. He was our "shaykh"
for
many years, claiming to have good Sufi tradition originated from
Ayni
Ali Baba tekke in Istanbul. He also has a web page. But, when he
come
here, after all these years, he caused a great confusion. He was
teaching that humans are created by aliens, which altered their
genes
in primitive humans gens. He was teaching that Qur'an is created
(Mutezili aqidah). He was teaching that meleks, Jibril a.s. for
example, are just portals, wormholes... He was teaching that Jesus
spent his life in Tibet, then go to UK through Bosnia, and that UK
royal family originates from Jesus (Isa a.s.). He was teaching
that
people can reincarnate in other lives. He said, for example if 12
years old kid die, "Allah would be not injustice not to give him
another chance"... The list of blasphemies was long, so we decided
and
left this person. After that we found a link on his web page where
it
is stated that Baha'i, Husein Neuzil, "a sufi shaykh", imoprted
him
into USA "to organize Islamic Sufi order of Qadiri-Rifa'i Tariqa".
From that point we become interested in his Baha'i background,
especially since while he was here he never did namaz, salat, what
was
expected from him as "sufi Shaykh". His words have been, "Allah
will
clean tariqa with us"... He claimed there are no true shaykhs in
Bosnia, and that he wanted "to raise a modern shaykhs here"...
Than we
saw a person which he calls "shaykha" receives greetings for
Hanuka, a
Jewish celebrity. Off course, I am not against anybody celebrates
its
holly days, but how can anybody call non-Muslim person an Islamic
shaykh? He also praised Masons, for them he says to be good
people.
These people misuse a knowledge about Islam. In this case he
constructed a story from true fragments. Yes, there was shaykh
Muhyiddin Ensari baba k.s., and Ayni Ali Baba tekke exist in
Istanbul,
but this particular man, Taner, was never his halifa, as he
claims.
Why I say this? Because, there was background story which you can
partially check, and from that conclude it is true. But, no of his
blasphemies have been, and they are still not declared on his web
page. This Baha'i use his web page, under false flag of Sufism, to
ketch people. There is no single word about "aliens created
humans" on
the web page. There you will find many stories about Abdul Qadir
Jilani and Sayyid Ahmad Rifa'i, and some noble shaykhs. These are
spies methods, and I agree that Muslim people need to be
especially
cautious of accepting people claiming "to be so opened for all
religious", but in fundamental they negate all religions. Islam is
religion of peace, but also it has a right to stay authentic
without
intervention and imports. That is why I am against all subversive
and
munafeeq methods like these ones.
Sayfullahus yahoo.com
Jan 12, 2012, 3:52:16 AM1/12/12
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On Jan 12, 9:30 am, "Sayfullahus yahoo.com" <sayfulla...@gmail.com>
wrote:
http://sufiart.blogspot.com/
Born in Chicago in 1932, Husayn Neuzil studied Toltec, Zapotec and
Mayan art in Mexico under the influence of muralist David Alfaro
Siqueiros. He entered Layton School of Art in Milwaukee and became a
private student of Karl Priebe. He later moved to Seattle where his
work was influenced by Mark Tobey, Morris Graves and the Northwest
school of painters. Converting to the Ba’hai Faith in the 1950, Neuzil
traveled extensively in the Middle-East including Iran, Israel and
Turkey. His work shows the influence of Islamic design and
illumination. As art director of the Baha'i magazine World Order he
was a well known Baha'i teacher for many years. In the early 1990s, he
met Sufi Master Shaykh Taner Ansari of the Qadiri-Rifa’i Sufi Order in
Istanbul, Turkey. He was instrumental in bringing Shaykh Taner to the
US and establishing the Sufi Order here. He died in 2001 and is buried
in Napa, California. He has exhibited at the Baha'i National Center
and Fairweather-Hardin Gallery in Chicago, Otto Seligman and Gorden
Woodside Gallery in Seattle, the Image Gallery, Portland and the
Gallerie de Tours, Hourian and Vorpal Galleries in San Francisco
So would anybody try to convince me that Bahais helps Muslims to
establish "Islamic Tariqa". That is why I believe they are "citizens
dangerous intentions" group, which use subversive methods in order to
infiltrate peoples' intimate religious feelings. If you do not declare
your real beliefs, and you present opposite then you are, and you
publicly claim you are different, and attract people, and slowly start
to change their beliefs through the time, and one day you declare
something what is completely opposite to the official teachings of
that group (like "aliens altered human DNA"), and then you put a link
where it is told Bahai man imported you in that country, how to
qualify that then subversive methods? Don't play me James Bond, if
that religion is good and transparent, be fair and declare and invite
anybody who wants to come.
wrote:
Born in Chicago in 1932, Husayn Neuzil studied Toltec, Zapotec and
Mayan art in Mexico under the influence of muralist David Alfaro
Siqueiros. He entered Layton School of Art in Milwaukee and became a
private student of Karl Priebe. He later moved to Seattle where his
work was influenced by Mark Tobey, Morris Graves and the Northwest
school of painters. Converting to the Ba’hai Faith in the 1950, Neuzil
traveled extensively in the Middle-East including Iran, Israel and
Turkey. His work shows the influence of Islamic design and
illumination. As art director of the Baha'i magazine World Order he
was a well known Baha'i teacher for many years. In the early 1990s, he
met Sufi Master Shaykh Taner Ansari of the Qadiri-Rifa’i Sufi Order in
Istanbul, Turkey. He was instrumental in bringing Shaykh Taner to the
US and establishing the Sufi Order here. He died in 2001 and is buried
in Napa, California. He has exhibited at the Baha'i National Center
and Fairweather-Hardin Gallery in Chicago, Otto Seligman and Gorden
Woodside Gallery in Seattle, the Image Gallery, Portland and the
Gallerie de Tours, Hourian and Vorpal Galleries in San Francisco
So would anybody try to convince me that Bahais helps Muslims to
establish "Islamic Tariqa". That is why I believe they are "citizens
dangerous intentions" group, which use subversive methods in order to
infiltrate peoples' intimate religious feelings. If you do not declare
your real beliefs, and you present opposite then you are, and you
publicly claim you are different, and attract people, and slowly start
to change their beliefs through the time, and one day you declare
something what is completely opposite to the official teachings of
that group (like "aliens altered human DNA"), and then you put a link
where it is told Bahai man imported you in that country, how to
qualify that then subversive methods? Don't play me James Bond, if
that religion is good and transparent, be fair and declare and invite
anybody who wants to come.
NUR
Jan 12, 2012, 5:34:24 AM1/12/12
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Hu dost!
Until you brought it up, I was unaware of the fact that Shaykh Taner's
Qadiri-Rifa'i tariqa was setup in America with Bahai assistance. It
saddens me to hear this (since the information checks out) because the
murids of Shaykh Taner al-Ansari are genuine people and the principled
position that Shaykh Taner himself has taken against the abuses of the
Naqshbandi Haqqani Foundation (which is a bona fide cult with ties to
the American Neo-Conservative establishment) is to be highly
commended. However I can confirm that I have heard this UFO gibberish
from the mouths of Shaykh Taner's murids. I have also heard it from
certain American shaykhs and renegades from the Helveti-Jerrahi tariqa
of North America. My view is that this is a phenomenon generally
amongst a group of Turkish Sufi leaders in North America who are
attempting to attract Western disciples by appealing to a popular New
Age narrative.
That said, it has been a policy of the Bahai establishment to
infiltrate the Sufi Orders for a very long time. The reason this is
being done is for the purposes of enlisting "soft Islamic forces" in
assorted campaigns represented by the Haifan Bahai organization but
sponsored by the Israeli and Anglo-European establishments. One of the
reasons why the Iranian authorities in recent years have been heavy
headed with the Sufi Orders over there has been precisely because of
Bahai attempts to co-opt and infiltrate them. Generally this has
backfired but the Iranian government has nevertheless used it as an
excuse to clamp down on the Iranian Sufi community as a whole. One day
Baha'i authorities in Iran will have to answer for this because it has
placed many innocent people in harms way.
You may wish to note that much of the current attempts by the Bahai
establishment in the West to infiltrate and co-opt Sufi Orders is
being undertaken (or 'led') by an individual with dubious political
connections known as Andrew Carter (this may not be his real name). I
have reason to believe this individual and the outfits he represents
online may be fronts for the US intelligence establishment. In other
words, the outfits "Andrew Carter" represents are coordinated false-
flag operations conducted jointly by the Israel based UHJ and the US/
Israeli intelligence communities. In 2007 an article interviewing Mr
Carter was published by the highly dubious Bahais Online website which
is run by NZ Bahai Steve Marshall (a notorious Bahai Islamophobe and
racist): http://bahaisonline.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1339&Itemid=2.
Last year I came upon the following blog http://rose-sufi-crescent.blogspot.com/
which is yet another one of Andrew Carter's false-flags.
Albanian, Bosnian and Turkish Bektashis have informed me that the
Baha'is have attempted various things with them as well. In these
times, and given that the Baha'is solely serve the Anglo-American/
Israeli imperialist agenda and its plutocracy, I would say that the
Sufi Muslim community everywhere must be especially vigilant against
the machinations of these cultists. However if Sufi Muslims know of
cases where the Bahais have already done this, it is a duty for them
to expose it wherever they can, and of course you or other concerned
Sufi Muslims are always welcome to contact me personally about such
cases wherever they may occur or that you may otherwise have knowledge
about.
Thank you for posting. Wassalam, Ya NUR
On Jan 12, 6:52 pm, "Sayfullahus yahoo.com" <sayfulla...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Until you brought it up, I was unaware of the fact that Shaykh Taner's
Qadiri-Rifa'i tariqa was setup in America with Bahai assistance. It
saddens me to hear this (since the information checks out) because the
murids of Shaykh Taner al-Ansari are genuine people and the principled
position that Shaykh Taner himself has taken against the abuses of the
Naqshbandi Haqqani Foundation (which is a bona fide cult with ties to
the American Neo-Conservative establishment) is to be highly
commended. However I can confirm that I have heard this UFO gibberish
from the mouths of Shaykh Taner's murids. I have also heard it from
certain American shaykhs and renegades from the Helveti-Jerrahi tariqa
of North America. My view is that this is a phenomenon generally
amongst a group of Turkish Sufi leaders in North America who are
attempting to attract Western disciples by appealing to a popular New
Age narrative.
That said, it has been a policy of the Bahai establishment to
infiltrate the Sufi Orders for a very long time. The reason this is
being done is for the purposes of enlisting "soft Islamic forces" in
assorted campaigns represented by the Haifan Bahai organization but
sponsored by the Israeli and Anglo-European establishments. One of the
reasons why the Iranian authorities in recent years have been heavy
headed with the Sufi Orders over there has been precisely because of
Bahai attempts to co-opt and infiltrate them. Generally this has
backfired but the Iranian government has nevertheless used it as an
excuse to clamp down on the Iranian Sufi community as a whole. One day
Baha'i authorities in Iran will have to answer for this because it has
placed many innocent people in harms way.
You may wish to note that much of the current attempts by the Bahai
establishment in the West to infiltrate and co-opt Sufi Orders is
being undertaken (or 'led') by an individual with dubious political
connections known as Andrew Carter (this may not be his real name). I
have reason to believe this individual and the outfits he represents
online may be fronts for the US intelligence establishment. In other
words, the outfits "Andrew Carter" represents are coordinated false-
flag operations conducted jointly by the Israel based UHJ and the US/
Israeli intelligence communities. In 2007 an article interviewing Mr
Carter was published by the highly dubious Bahais Online website which
is run by NZ Bahai Steve Marshall (a notorious Bahai Islamophobe and
racist): http://bahaisonline.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1339&Itemid=2.
Last year I came upon the following blog http://rose-sufi-crescent.blogspot.com/
which is yet another one of Andrew Carter's false-flags.
Albanian, Bosnian and Turkish Bektashis have informed me that the
Baha'is have attempted various things with them as well. In these
times, and given that the Baha'is solely serve the Anglo-American/
Israeli imperialist agenda and its plutocracy, I would say that the
Sufi Muslim community everywhere must be especially vigilant against
the machinations of these cultists. However if Sufi Muslims know of
cases where the Bahais have already done this, it is a duty for them
to expose it wherever they can, and of course you or other concerned
Sufi Muslims are always welcome to contact me personally about such
cases wherever they may occur or that you may otherwise have knowledge
about.
Thank you for posting. Wassalam, Ya NUR
On Jan 12, 6:52 pm, "Sayfullahus yahoo.com" <sayfulla...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Sayfullahus yahoo.com
Jan 12, 2012, 9:29:28 AM1/12/12
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> Last year I came upon the following bloghttp://rose-sufi-crescent.blogspot.com/
to be direct and to get direct answer. This was my question:
"I would like to ask you to clarify us the attitude of QRT tariqa
toward Qur’an, Sunna, Sheriyat, namaz-salat, and fundamental
postulates of Islam and Muslim community. Is anything changed in basic
postulates? Did kaafirs stopp to be kaafirs? Will Allah s.w.t.a.
destroy gays as He did once before? Who is our creator? What is bigger
and what is true – Qur’an which come in a way it come, before enormous
number of witness and with all mujiza shown, or Zecharia Sitchin and
his book of speculations about something which he knows nothing about,
or books which speculates about Jesus in Tibet, which are widely
refused in the west since the author was caught in a lie (Nicolas
Notovitch (1894). Subsequently several other authors have written on
the subject, including the religious leader Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
(founder of Ahmadiyya movement) (1899), Levi H. Dowling (1908), Swami
Abhedananda (1922),[2] Nicholas Roerich (1923–1928),[1] Mathilde
Ludendorff (1930), Elizabeth Clare Prophet (founder of Ascended Master
Teachings New Age group) (1956)[3] and more recently Holger Kersten[4]
in his book Jesus Lived in India (1981).)"
and this was a part of answer:
"For example, I did not say aliens created human beings, I definitely
did not say they created human soul. I merely said that they altered
their DNAs to bring them into modern humans. And I said Allah did this
change through them. Somewhere in the Quran Allah says, "as I created
you from some other nation, I am able to create some other nations in
place of you. When I recite Quran, of course I cannot say the exact
words from Quran because I am saying it from the memory. But the
general meaning is there that I am trying to point."
So "modern man", including Muhammed s.a.w.s., is a product of
genetically manipulation of aliens, who "altered their DNAs to bring
us into modern humans"...
I found this as a teaching of Raelism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism
. I could never find anything similar in any Islamic book, but he said
also:
"I have told the TRUTH about Allah that Allah is energy whether
people who are listening to me are Muslim, Christians or Jewish. I
have not softened or changed Islam to make easier to Americans, we
have students all over the world, the smallest group being in America.
Our full legal name is Islamic Sufi Order ...., does this sound like
we are hiding islam?"
Yes, seems Islam is deeply hidden in this teaching, in so scale that
you cannot even find anything of Islam in it. So Raelians teach that
aliens altered their DNA into primitive human DNA in order to make
them their slaves, and by doing that in rash, they made some mistakes
which scientists can discover today. And they did that because of
making a slave race, a human slave race. So, for being "modern" we
should thanks to aliens, and Muhammed AbduHU should means that
Muhammed s.a.w.s. is a slave of aliens, and not Allah s.w.t.a., and
Jibrili Emin, which appeared to sahaba and Prophet s.a.w.s in a
feature of a man in clean white cloth, was just "a wormhole" or
"portal". An energy. And you do this diversion gradually, starting a
speech about grand Sufis, without a single word on these beliefs, and
when people start loves you, you misuse that love, and more and more
such stupidities becomes acceptable, to the point that you clearly
separated from Islam.
Alhamdulillah, a simple meytef (maqtab) level of our education
prevented this plan to realize here in Bosnia, but I know persons
abroad which really passed that line, and they think that they belong
to Islam, but in fact they do not belong to anything.
But, I think a misuse of Jalaluddin Rumi is the most spreed one, his
words are misinterpreted in a way to divert people.
It is very hard to speak with these people who fall into sect net. On
this particular issue I spoke with one of them many times, and I could
not convince her anything until I made a list of 20 blasphemies and
misinterpretations and wrong thinks of this particular man, and I
asked her that she judge in accordance to that list, and she never
contacted me after that.
NUR
Jan 12, 2012, 9:56:32 AM1/12/12
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I am sorry to hear all this, brother. You are correct. The idea that
aliens manipulated human DNA is not an Islamic 'aqeedah at all. There
are of course akhbar (Shi'a hadith) by the Holy Imams of the Ahl al-
Bayt (as) which speak of multiple worlds and multiple races Allah
(SWT) has created through many aeons of time. But this DNA
manipulation business is completely a modern fabrication, and as you
correctly point out, it is a Raelian doctrine and not an Islamic one.
Hujwiri once said that Sufism is a name without a reality when once it
was a reality without a name. My suggestion is that you follow the
Qur'an, the Sunna, do dhikr on your own and listen to your own
conscience. Let Allah (swt) guide you to the Truth, and if your heart
is pure and sincere He assuredly will. Unfortunately in these times
there are many, many, many false teachers - and not just in Islam -
and many good teachers in these times also go astray. It is a very
difficult age we are living in.
My prayers go with you and your community in Bosnia. Fi amana'Llah! Ya
NUR
aliens manipulated human DNA is not an Islamic 'aqeedah at all. There
are of course akhbar (Shi'a hadith) by the Holy Imams of the Ahl al-
Bayt (as) which speak of multiple worlds and multiple races Allah
(SWT) has created through many aeons of time. But this DNA
manipulation business is completely a modern fabrication, and as you
correctly point out, it is a Raelian doctrine and not an Islamic one.
Hujwiri once said that Sufism is a name without a reality when once it
was a reality without a name. My suggestion is that you follow the
Qur'an, the Sunna, do dhikr on your own and listen to your own
conscience. Let Allah (swt) guide you to the Truth, and if your heart
is pure and sincere He assuredly will. Unfortunately in these times
there are many, many, many false teachers - and not just in Islam -
and many good teachers in these times also go astray. It is a very
difficult age we are living in.
My prayers go with you and your community in Bosnia. Fi amana'Llah! Ya
NUR
Sayfullahus yahoo.com
Jan 12, 2012, 9:54:11 AM1/12/12
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On Jan 12, 3:29 pm, "Sayfullahus yahoo.com" <sayfulla...@gmail.com>
> I found this as a teaching of Raelismhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism
Look, this teaching was presented as "Sufi Islam"???!!! See the
wording, it is completely the same, "altered"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBtsaYMGeiE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDHp5Bdqh0c&feature=related
Not to mention "reincarnation", his belief that people can reincarnate
and live another lives. I asked on this "issue" does this mean that we
will have more then one destiny, more then one mother? What would be a
value of mother in that case? Paradise lies under the mother's feet
(Jannat tahta aqdam alumahat)!
Which one mother in that case???
So Allah s.w.t.a. did not created us, that was alien work ("Allah told
them to do that", to make us alien slaves???) (Raelians)
Jesus went to Tibet. Why would a person directly taught by Allah
s.w.t.a., who spoke to people being small baby, need to go to Tibet,
then to UK? (I do not know to which sect this belongs)
People reincarnates... (Buddhism)
Meleks are just portals...
Allah s.w.t.a. is energy....
"i personally talk to all the angels' prophets.and pirs
they help me in my assignment
the n i share these with my students." ???
So angels' prophets and pirs told him to say that aliens manipulated
human DNA?
After that we found this about Baha'i. A member of movement, which
left Islam and converted to Baha'i, helped "a sufi shaykh" to
establish "Islamic Sufi Order"??? And I was told, he was almost to die
from cancer, but miraculously he lived 10 years, together with this
about which we are talking. Now we see a product, a Troyan Horse.
wording, it is completely the same, "altered"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBtsaYMGeiE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDHp5Bdqh0c&feature=related
Not to mention "reincarnation", his belief that people can reincarnate
and live another lives. I asked on this "issue" does this mean that we
will have more then one destiny, more then one mother? What would be a
value of mother in that case? Paradise lies under the mother's feet
(Jannat tahta aqdam alumahat)!
Which one mother in that case???
So Allah s.w.t.a. did not created us, that was alien work ("Allah told
them to do that", to make us alien slaves???) (Raelians)
Jesus went to Tibet. Why would a person directly taught by Allah
s.w.t.a., who spoke to people being small baby, need to go to Tibet,
then to UK? (I do not know to which sect this belongs)
People reincarnates... (Buddhism)
Meleks are just portals...
Allah s.w.t.a. is energy....
"i personally talk to all the angels' prophets.and pirs
they help me in my assignment
the n i share these with my students." ???
So angels' prophets and pirs told him to say that aliens manipulated
human DNA?
After that we found this about Baha'i. A member of movement, which
left Islam and converted to Baha'i, helped "a sufi shaykh" to
establish "Islamic Sufi Order"??? And I was told, he was almost to die
from cancer, but miraculously he lived 10 years, together with this
about which we are talking. Now we see a product, a Troyan Horse.
Sayfullahus yahoo.com
Jan 12, 2012, 9:59:34 AM1/12/12
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can you tell me something more about you, on sayfu...@yahoo.com
izmr...@gmail.com
Nov 17, 2015, 3:00:27 AM11/17/15
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Are you practicing something or learning from an authentic master? I am kind of confused because i was about contacting a sheykh that his akeykh is Taner ansari. I am searching for some athentic tariqa, for some authentic teacher and i know that is not easy. I understand that as Shams says, there are more fake masters than stars all over the sky, but i want to find a transparent heart, a real master to walk with me on the road that i've decided to walk, and the destiny is my life esence; the esence of God. That one that make us one because we are alle made with this grace that we ignore almost all the time because of distractions of the illusion of life and the tricks of the ego. I don't want to be just a character, a person. I want to be a real Human, the manifestation, the instrument of Allah, just of him, to honor His love and His magnifiscense. If God want it. Just if He want it. Blessings, Light and Love for all.
nassi...@gmail.com
Dec 3, 2017, 2:45:02 PM12/3/17
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Hi sheik taner is using the refia soofi order as a front for propagation mirza qadiany beliefs
NUR
Dec 8, 2017, 7:21:31 AM12/8/17
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On Sunday, 3 December 2017 20:45:02 UTC+1, nassi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi sheik taner is using the refia soofi order as a front for propagation mirza qadiany beliefs
Wow, really? Do you have evidence?
> Hi sheik taner is using the refia soofi order as a front for propagation mirza qadiany beliefs
nassi...@gmail.com
Dec 9, 2017, 10:36:45 AM12/9/17
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Slmz i heard him saying all what mirza qadiany said about issa a.s. (jesus) life and death in kashmir
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Please contact me on nassi...@gmail.com @NUR
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