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Mr Mahdi

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May 21, 2003, 3:31:22 AM5/21/03
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I would like to make it know that I realize after years of posting on TRB that
I am the main trend setter here. For one, I pioneered the lower casing of
bahai names in order to intentionally disrespect bahaism and others followed in
my footsteps. I started to call the so-called "bahai faith" as the more
accurate term of "bahaism" and again, other followed suit. I got into so many
heated debates when TRB was basically boring without me, and TRB now is the
number one bahai newsgroup on the Internet.

I helped cause people to doubt and leave bahaism, I am personally believe that
several regular posters here left the bahaism or at least doubt it after years
of my unrelenting refutation of bahaism.

I see TRB as a fun pasttime of mines which I do not make it my life. But this
fun pasttime became unsuprisingly an interesting achievemet of mines where I
did seek to expose the falsehood of bahaism and show its true side to the
world.

I did a good job over the years. :-)

Mahdi Muhammad

http://brothermahdi.tripod.com/index.html

Paul Hammond

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May 21, 2003, 9:59:20 AM5/21/03
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mrm...@aol.com (Mr Mahdi) wrote in message news:<20030521033122...@mb-m27.aol.com>...

Are you *really* this big an idiot?

CrissCross was likely calling Baha'is "bahaists" long
before you ever came on the scene.

The fact that his willingness to cause deliberate
offence by *not* calling the Baha'i Faith by
its correct name, and not capitalising the name is
as great as yours is is no acheivement of yours,
and nothing to be proud of.

btw, doesn't he call your lot mahometans?

Incidentally, the supposed equivalence of
"refute" and "deny" is a grammar bugbear to a lot
of people.

You have certainly come here denying the Baha'i
Faith many, many times. Never once have you managed
to refute anyone's argument. indeed, if any offer
you serious questions, you retreat like the vile
coward you are.

Paul

Randy Burns

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May 21, 2003, 12:32:08 PM5/21/03
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Yes Mahdi, I think you finally got to old 'Nemo' after awhile. I think you
can pretty much add him as a notch to your belt of Baha'i scalps.

Cheers, Randy

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Randy Burns

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May 21, 2003, 12:40:53 PM5/21/03
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I think Mahdi has a valid point here, Paul. He did start the trend of the
lower case 'baha'i faith' and 'bahaism' and you now see his acolytes take up
the cross...er crescent of lowercase recidivism. Obviously we are seeing an
increasing spate of tag-alongs and camp-followers of Mr. Mahdi here on TRB
with Nemo and Starjo, Errol-mon and Criss-Crap all joining in on the fun.

At this time I am forced to concede that Mahdi is indeed 'the main trend
setter here.'

Cheers, Randy

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> mrm...@aol.com (Mr Mahdi) wrote in message
news:<20030521033122...@mb-m27.aol.com>...
> > I would like to make it know that I realize after years of posting on
TRB that
> > I am the main trend setter here. For one, I pioneered the lower casing
of
> > bahai names in order to intentionally disrespect bahaism and others
followed in
> > my footsteps. I started to call the so-called "bahai faith" as the more
> > accurate term of "bahaism" and again, other followed suit. I got into
so many
> > heated debates when TRB was basically boring without me, and TRB now is
the
> > number one bahai newsgroup on the Internet.
> >
>

QisQos

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May 21, 2003, 6:38:39 PM5/21/03
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"Randy Burns" <randy....@gte.net> wrote in message news:<p_Nya.2846$6_....@nwrddc04.gnilink.net>...

> I think Mahdi has a valid point here, Paul. He did start the trend of the
> lower case 'baha'i faith' and 'bahaism' and you now see his acolytes take up
> the cross...er crescent of lowercase recidivism.

Speaking of crescents, enquiring minds still want to know more about
how the koran scientifically proves that the moon was cleaved into two
parts as it says in seurat 54:1

54.1
Iqtarabati alssaAAatu wainshaqqa alqamaru

The Hour has come closer, and the moon has split

What scientific explanation have the scientific mahometans to explain
this verse? Or do we have to understand this as "spiritual" in the
bahaist sense? Answer wisely mister ma hadi.

QisQos

Mr Mahdi

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May 21, 2003, 7:55:57 PM5/21/03
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The pope, mary, crosses, statues, 3 god worshipping pagan racist devil QrisCros
wrote:

> Answer wisely mister ma hadi.
>

I will not fall into the trap you laid of changing the topic to avoid your
consistent evading of the questions and arguments I raised. You have yet to
even deal with one thing I asked you, so until you take up my questions, I
won't bother even responding to yours, since you realize that you cannot come
up with a response so you keep changing the topics so I can forget what I asked
you and make me go on the defensive. I got an answer to every single point you
raise, but you don't have answers for mines.

By the way, you need to worry about fellow Christians who regard Catholics as
pagans and heretics and the priests as child molesters and have persecuted
Catholics far worse than Muslims have ever done.

But the truth is always hated by devils, even if the truth gave them more
rights than other beliefs and people.

Mahdi Muhammad

http://brothermahdi.tripod.com/index.html

NEMO418

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May 21, 2003, 8:03:48 PM5/21/03
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More like I took his scalp.

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Randy Burns

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May 21, 2003, 8:53:39 PM5/21/03
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That pedophile thing among Roman Catholic Priests, it's a conspiracy. Makes
you wonder what the Priests confess to their fellow Priests when they
confess (which they do!).

Cheers, Randy

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Pat Kohli

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May 21, 2003, 9:00:29 PM5/21/03
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Paul Hammond wrote:

> mrm...@aol.com (Mr Mahdi) wrote in message news:<20030521033122...@mb-m27.aol.com>...
> > I would like to make it know that I realize after years of posting on TRB that
> > I am the main trend setter here.

Maybe. Clearly you are one of the more insistently and persistently ill-informed folks on usenet.
Though, over time, more and more ill-informed people ahve been coming on usenet, most of them learn to
learn, or quit posting, so, in that respect you are not a trend-setter.

> For one, I pioneered the lower casing of
> > bahai names in order to intentionally disrespect bahaism and others followed in
> > my footsteps.

For one, though you first posted in 1999, that bit of mispelling had been uselessly prototyped
earlier. What you have, BTW, is not simply a lower-case spelling; you also have one w/o an apostrophe
- an apostrophe is that squiggle between the second "a" and the "i" in "Baha'i"


"Besides, soc.religion.bahai is known as a den of totalitarian fascists
bahais especially those censorship-trigger-happy moderators. I have had
past replies censored and will no longer honour those censor moderators
with another article. I will post to alt.religion.bahai and if you and
all bahais agree to leave soc.culture.iranian in peace then you won't
hear from me again. Why don't you discuss this among yourselves. The more
you propagada here the more bahai dirt will be dragged here too and the
more Islamic truth will be presented."
Afshin Afrashteh, posting to alt.religion.bahai, in July 1997
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=869562773.29490%40dejanews.com

Apparently this slick trick which you'd falsely like to claim as your own invention, is employed by
those who fail to grasp the concept of a proper noun. In a nutshell, the capitalization indicates a
proper noun. Likely this means still nothing to you, and perhaps one or two others. If a man went to
a non-Roman Catholic church, in Rome, and, it happend to be the _only_ church in Rome of his
denomination, he might correctly write to his friends and acquaintances that he went to the Roman
church. Note, he uses "Roman" because the church is in Rome, a place, and a place gets a Proper noun,
like "Texas". If I write texas, instead of Texas, I don't disrespect the great state; I disrespect my
parents and teachers who taught me to capitalize a proper noun. Ditto, w/ "Rome", and "Roman" to
indicate a relation to that place of the related proper noun. In the phrase "Roman church", I did not
capitalize the church! Well, the church likely does have a proper name, like, "Saint Paul's United
Methodist Church of Rome", though it may be known as Santo Paulo Unitas Methodisto
Churchorsomethinglikethat. Since I did not spell out the specific name, the proper noun is not used
on the phrase, though spelling rules for proper nouns were employed in the single adjective "Roman".


> > I started to call the so-called "bahai faith" as the more
> > accurate term of "bahaism" and again, other followed suit.

You certainly did not coin the word "bahaism". That you would try to dupe _anyone_ into thinking you
have, is, for you, quite typical.

"The baha'is then try to distort the picture by saying they
allow buddhists to post. The fact is only ISLAM is a
serious threat to bahaism and this is FACT"
Afshin Afrashteh, posting to alt.religion.bahai, in December 1998
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=75a3h1%24sc3%241%40nnrp1.dejanews.com

BTW, Afshin would preface his remarks w/ "Peace be upon those that receive true guidance".
He doe not try to credit himself w/ coining the phrase because he has his mind open to the fact that
his ears heard it before his mouth said it.


> > I got into so many
> > heated debates when TRB was basically boring without me,

When were you in a debate? I can recall a few slaggings, and flamings, but I don't recall you posting
more evidence that a propaganda flyer, nor showing any more reasoning than a trickle of dog water.
Likely you could not recognize a debate if you were channel surfing on the tube when you saw one.

> > and TRB now is the
> > number one bahai newsgroup on the Internet.
> >

We definitely haven't see enough of your hijinks in the past year.

>
> > I helped cause people to doubt and leave bahaism,

Names?

> > I am personally believe that
> > several regular posters here left the bahaism or at least doubt it after years
> > of my unrelenting refutation of bahaism.

Am you really? Please, some names? I can think of one person you may have chased back into the
faith, and I'd suspect you probably pushed a few lurkers into signing their declaration cards.

Any lurkers out there, who'd like to personally thank MrMahdi for bringing you into the Baha'i
Community?

I'd like to thank you for helping, even if none of them are still reading TRB.

>
> >
> > I see TRB as a fun pasttime of mines which I do not make it my life.

So, how are you going to pass the time?

> > But this
> > fun pasttime became unsuprisingly an interesting achievemet of mines where I
> > did seek to expose the falsehood of bahaism and show its true side to the
> > world.
> >

Can't fault a guy for trying, can you?

>
> > I did a good job over the years. :-)
> >

You certainly have! Please, don't relax for very long, again.

> Are you *really* this big an idiot?
>

Ahemmm. If he were, he'd never know, now could he?

>
> CrissCross was likely calling Baha'is "bahaists" long
> before you ever came on the scene.
>

Maybe MrMahdi will pick up on it, and maybe he won't.

>
> The fact that his willingness to cause deliberate
> offence by *not* calling the Baha'i Faith by
> its correct name, and not capitalising the name is
> as great as yours is is no acheivement of yours,
> and nothing to be proud of.
>

The Q may be agitating for the Free Mason, gnostic POV, at the expense of the LDS, and a certain other
sect which will remain nameless. One never knows what cwiss-cwoss might weawy impwy.

>
> btw, doesn't he call your lot mahometans?
>

I suspect he was one of 'them', too.

>
> Incidentally, the supposed equivalence of
> "refute" and "deny" is a grammar bugbear to a lot
> of people.
>

Woooosh. I think he will be able to grasp that tidbit just like proper nouns!

>
> You have certainly come here denying the Baha'i
> Faith many, many times. Never once have you managed
> to refute anyone's argument. indeed, if any offer
> you serious questions, you retreat like the vile
> coward you are.

You hit him right on the nose, ... and, ...
he ignores your response to reply to QisQos.

Clearly he sees that you've laid a mine field for him, but he lacks the confidence that he'll see his
mines.

Best wishes!
- Pat
kohli at ameritel.net

Pat Kohli

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May 21, 2003, 10:01:27 PM5/21/03
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Mr Mahdi wrote:

> (trickle snipped)

Paul Hammond

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May 22, 2003, 5:53:07 AM5/22/03
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mrm...@aol.com (Mr Mahdi) wrote in message news:<20030521195557...@mb-m19.aol.com>...

> The pope, mary, crosses, statues, 3 god worshipping pagan racist devil QrisCros
> wrote:
>
> > Answer wisely mister ma hadi.
> >
>
> I will not fall into the trap you laid of changing the topic to avoid your
> consistent evading of the questions and arguments I raised. You have yet to
> even deal with one thing I asked you, so until you take up my questions, I
> won't bother even responding to yours, since you realize that you cannot come
> up with a response so you keep changing the topics so I can forget what I asked
> you and make me go on the defensive.

That sounds like a trick you patented, too Mahdi.

I remember when a person here made the effort to make
a long, detailed and interesting answer to one of your
posts, asking you a number of hard questions. And you
effectively said "I answered these already on my website".

This person then took the time out to carefully read
your website, and discovered that not only were
there no answers to his points therein, but that reading
your website prompted further questions and points
needing clarification from him.

You ignored this person's cogent posts, despite me pointing
you in the direction of his unanswered questions a couple
of times, thus proving my point. Whenever anyone
offers you substantial argument you ignore them,
then later pretend they were never here.

Seems like your disciple learns well!

I got an answer to every single point you
> raise, but you don't have answers for mines.
>
> By the way, you need to worry about fellow Christians who regard Catholics as
> pagans and heretics and the priests as child molesters and have persecuted
> Catholics far worse than Muslims have ever done.
>

Indeed, for all that I disagree with his views, I'd rather
have a thousand QisQos's here than one of you. Deliberately
insulting he may be, but he does also have the advantage
of knowing how to string an *argument* together, rather
than merely ranting and pointing to a website of badly
digested second hand points from muslim polemical
leaflets.


> But the truth is always hated by devils, even if the truth gave them more
> rights than other beliefs and people.
>

Indeed. ANd you hate the truth so much one must suspect you
of being one of those devils.

Paul

Cal E. Rollins

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May 22, 2003, 1:48:34 PM5/22/03
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Mahdi,

I certainly don't see you as the number one trend setter on TRB. It's
pretty obvious that Nima and Susan Maneck are the trend setters. You're
certainly are one of the participants who, as you say, is nasty and
anti-Baha'i, but that doesn't make you a trend-setter. Maybe you should
get the title of the Ayatollah of TRB, since, as the article Errol9
posted from Israel says, the Ayatollahs love to harass Baha'is and
consider us heretics of Islam. So I fondly hail you as the Ayatollah
Mahdi of TRB. Maybe the appellation will stick. --Cal

Cal E. Rollins

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May 22, 2003, 1:42:01 PM5/22/03
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Randy, Mahdi,

How on earth could any Muslim point the finger at Catholics or anybody
else in regard to child molesting when the Prophet married a child of
six and had sex with her? Didn't this set the trend for all Muslims to
practice what we in the West accept as pedophilia and consider it
abhorrent as well as one aspect of the social death of a society? Of
course, slavery, condoned and practiced by Muhammad, was the other
aspect of social death. --Cal

QisQos

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May 22, 2003, 3:58:30 PM5/22/03
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mrm...@aol.com (Mr Mahdi) wrote in message news:<20030521195557...@mb-m19.aol.com>...


> Mahdi Muhammad
>
> http://brothermahdi.tripod.com/index.html

But Mister Mahadi:

I only asked you one single little question.

What is the scientific explanation of the splitting of the moon as
stated in the koran?

Now, by way of extension, since you are a stickler for historical
accuracy, when did this happen and how is this recorded historically?

Either way, you have a nice day and I will pray for you.

QisQos

NEMO418

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May 22, 2003, 9:25:12 PM5/22/03
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Fred started the lower case "baha'i" and "baha'i faith" on TRB not Mahdi.


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