Comments on the movie "PASSION OF CHRIST
Baldrick
in article 77dd8f00.04022...@posting.google.com, alivine at
avicenn...@yahoo.com wrote on 1/3/04 6:52 am:
> THANK YOU FOR answers from KOSS KESH KOHLI.
> By responding, he-she ---koss kesh kohli-- agrees to be named WHORE .
> A>E>
Sorry for my ignorance Alivine. but when you say Koss Kesh Kohli
agrees to be named WHORE. What does kosh Kesh mean?
Im a wee bit mixed up who is supposed to be a whore and who isnt. As
an old sailor who knows what the golden rivet is for, Hawkeye-kohli
wouldnt be my idea for a night out playing dodge the bollards down by
the waterfront even if he says "Hi guys I'mn a captain". My granny
always taught me never trust those Airborne Yanks. They have a habit
of slipping you a strip of gum, that is a mikey finn and before you
can say Jack Robinson you end up with an MP batton up the kyber pass.
Baldrick
>
alivine
KOSS KESH- if the memory is correct- means in the land of the
IRANIANS-"vagina lover".
PERHAPS, Baha'i KOHLI- AKA BAD JUDGEMENT- IS either KOSS KESH or
considering the history of Iranian Baha'is- polygamist or incestuous
or rapist or homosexual.
ALL TRUE MALES SHOULD REFUSE to pass BY KOHLI-- the KYBER PASS.
A>E>
baldri...@yahoo.co.uk (Baldrick) wrote in message news:<9b91a665.04030...@posting.google.com>...
Paul Hammond
>
> in article 77dd8f00.04022...@posting.google.com, alivine at
> avicenn...@yahoo.com wrote on 1/3/04 6:52 am:
>
> > THANK YOU FOR answers from KOSS KESH KOHLI.
> > By responding, he-she ---koss kesh kohli-- agrees to be named WHORE .
> > A>E>
>
> Sorry for my ignorance Alivine. but when you say Koss Kesh Kohli
> agrees to be named WHORE. What does kosh Kesh mean?
>
It's an Iranian swearword, Grave-pisser Burke.
> Im a wee bit mixed up who is supposed to be a whore and who isnt.
Why, are you jealous because *you're* not being called a whore?
> As
> an old sailor who knows what the golden rivet is for, Hawkeye-kohli
> wouldnt be my idea for a night out playing dodge the bollards down by
> the waterfront even if he says "Hi guys I'mn a captain".
Now, what does *that* mean? And you're worried for *my* nut???
My granny
> always taught me never trust those Airborne Yanks. They have a habit
> of slipping you a strip of gum, that is a mikey finn and before you
> can say Jack Robinson you end up with an MP batton up the kyber pass.
>
Are you another victim of Baha'i sexual abuse?
Or is it just that all the nice boys love a sailor?
Paul
Freethought110
>
> in article 77dd8f00.04022...@posting.google.com, alivine at
> avicenn...@yahoo.com wrote on 1/3/04 6:52 am:
>
> > THANK YOU FOR answers from KOSS KESH KOHLI.
> > By responding, he-she ---koss kesh kohli-- agrees to be named WHORE .
> > A>E>
>
> Sorry for my ignorance Alivine. but when you say Koss Kesh Kohli
> agrees to be named WHORE. What does kosh Kesh mean?
It's Persian Tehrani slang meaning pimp (lit. someone who peddles the
private parts of women)!
Dermod Ryder
"Baldrick" <baldri...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:9b91a665.04030...@posting.google.com...
> Im a wee bit mixed up who is supposed to be a whore and who isnt.
No point in your hanging around the Albert Clock then!
> As
> an old sailor who knows what the golden rivet is for,
Stirring your tea?
> Hawkeye-kohli
> wouldnt be my idea for a night out
I think he might reciprocate that sentiment.
> playing dodge the bollards down by
> the waterfront even if he says "Hi guys I'mn a captain".
Beats a Leading Stoker on a pig boat any day. All the girls love a
Captain - he's got a nicer uniform and a bigger pay cheque.
> My granny
> always taught me never trust those Airborne Yanks. They have a habit
> of slipping you a strip of gum, that is a mikey finn
And she had a lot of experience on which to base this advice? BTW that's a
"Mickey Finn!"
> and before you
> can say Jack Robinson you end up with an MP batton up the kyber pass.
Sounds like you enjoyed the experience! BTW that's "baton" and "Khyber!"
>
> Baldrick
>
>
> >
Baldrick
Freethought110 at freetho...@yahoo.com wrote on 2/3/04 12:27 am:
> baldri...@yahoo.co.uk (Baldrick) wrote in message
> news:<9b91a665.04030...@posting.google.com>...
>> Comments on the movie "PASSION OF CHRIST"
>>
>> in article 77dd8f00.04022...@posting.google.com, alivine
at
>> avicenn...@yahoo.com wrote on 1/3/04 6:52 am:
>>
>>> THANK YOU FOR answers from KOSS KESH KOHLI.
>>> By responding, he-she ---koss kesh kohli-- agrees to be named
WHORE .
>>> A>E>
>>
>> Sorry for my ignorance Alivine. but when you say Koss Kesh Kohli
>> agrees to be named WHORE. What does kosh Kesh mean?
>
> It's Persian Tehrani slang meaning pimp (lit. someone who peddles the
> private parts of women)!
Fasinating, ill have to keep that word for future reference. Surely a
Bahai ex-Captain in the Airborne div wouldn't stoop that low?
American paratroopers prefer kissing boys instead. HmmmmMmmm"
Baldrick
>
>>
>> Im a wee bit mixed up who is supposed to be a whore and who isnt.
As
>> an old sailor who knows what the golden rivet is for,
Hawkeye-kohli
>> wouldnt be my idea for a night out playing dodge the bollards down
by
>> the waterfront even if he says "Hi guys I'mn a captain". My granny
>> always taught me never trust those Airborne Yanks. They have a
habit
>> of slipping you a strip of gum, that is a mikey finn and before
you
>> can say Jack Robinson you end up with an MP batton up the kyber
>> pass.
>>
>> Baldrick
>>
>>
>>>
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Baldrick
at m...@privacy.net wrote on 2/3/04 12:37 am:
>
> Sounds like you enjoyed the experience! BTW that's "baton" and "Khyber!"
Is this why you never got a decent job in all your life Yuk Yuk? You
were too busy correcting typo's in other people's posts.
I supopose you are still suffering from resentment and jealousy
because a dunderhead from East Belfast who cant spell to save his
life, yet he wrote a book., amazing ain't it?
Sounds like you have a strong dose of inferiority complex poor poor
guy.
Baldrick
Baldrick
>
>> Sounds like you enjoyed the experience! BTW that's "baton" and
"Khyber!"
his life, yet he made millions writing books why should it hold me up?
"And now, thanks to Mr Cohen, we can start. The recipe for swift
riches and instant success, it seems, is to learn to truly loathe
grammar and spelling, and choose the wrong words wherever possible."
In the beginning there was an edtior...rediot...idreot
Special report: Jeffrey Archer
http://www.guardian.co.uk/archer/article/0,2763,542696,00.html
Maybe I suffer from a disability called agraphia. It is a learning
disorder that affects ones ability to spell and write. Or maybe I am
just too lazy to use the spell check. Anyway I am not losing any sleep
over it, I will just let you Yuk Yuk, MoHamHead and Hawkeye do all the
worrying and get annoyed about Baldrick's bad spelling, I am away to
bed.
Baldrick
alivine
Here is the recap: " My granny always taught me never trust those
Airborne Yanks. They have a habit of slipping you a strip of gum,
that is a mikey finn and before you can say Jack Robinson you end up
with an MP batton up the kyber pass."
IT BEHOVES ANY INFIDEL TO end up with the stick to match the KYBER
PASS- THE PENT-UP ENERGY can only be found in two possible MALE
individuals Paul Hammond and Snoopy DOG KOHLI-Mr.BadJudgement.
PAUL Hammond does REFLECT about HIS FANTASIES- based on his own
recognition of "And you're worried for *my* nut???", it becomes clear
AS MILK AND HONEY THAT PAUL is becoming an asexual
*l----------------------;***
Let see, prior pictures of PAUL revealed 2 NUTS, now PAUL is
discussing a SINGLE NUT -"my nut- in his words". It is impossible to
surmise as to why PAUL lost his left NUT. Perhaps, GOD PUNISHED HIM
for using WITH SATISFACTION HIS LEFT HAND.
let Paul - THE MISSING LEFT NUT man with a penchant for BATTON UP THE
KYBER PASS- answer.
A>E>
paha...@onetel.net.uk (Paul Hammond) wrote in message news:<c977f97b.04030...@posting.google.com>...
Paul Hammond
avicenn...@yahoo.com (alivine) wrote in message news:<77dd8f00.04030...@posting.google.com>...
> A LAUGH IS WORTH ITS WEIGHT IN GOLD.
>
> Here is the recap: " My granny always taught me never trust those
> Airborne Yanks. They have a habit of slipping you a strip of gum,
> that is a mikey finn and before you can say Jack Robinson you end up
> with an MP batton up the kyber pass."
>
> IT BEHOVES ANY INFIDEL TO end up with the stick to match the KYBER
> PASS- THE PENT-UP ENERGY can only be found in two possible MALE
> individuals Paul Hammond and Snoopy DOG KOHLI-Mr.BadJudgement.
>
> PAUL Hammond does REFLECT about HIS FANTASIES- based on his own
> recognition of "And you're worried for *my* nut???", it becomes clear
> AS MILK AND HONEY THAT PAUL is becoming an asexual
> *l----------------------;***
>
> Let see, prior pictures of PAUL revealed 2 NUTS, now PAUL is
> discussing a SINGLE NUT -"my nut- in his words". It is impossible to
> surmise as to why PAUL lost his left NUT. Perhaps, GOD PUNISHED HIM
> for using WITH SATISFACTION HIS LEFT HAND.
>
Look here, Tad - the word "nut", as well as being a synonym
for scrota, is a synonym for "head" - as in "he was doing
his nut" (which means he was getting very angry about something).
"Nuts" therefore, means mad. Although in a different context
"Nuts!" (as in "Nuts to that") means "balls".
The fact that your thoughts invariably stray below the belt
is something that is coming from your nut, and not an admission
that like Hitler, I only had one ball.
Tad, I say NUTS to YOU, you loon.
Paul Hammond
Or maybe you are just dumb!
Baldrick
at m...@privacy.net wrote on 2/3/04 12:37 am:
> Beats a Leading Stoker on a pig boat any day. All the girls love a
> Captain - he's got a nicer uniform and a bigger pay cheque.
Nonsense. I will explain: All the nice girls love saliors and their
sky blue clean cut uniforms. A salior dosnt need a big pay cheque to
find a nice girl. Only naughty girls are attracted by Captain
Koss-Kesh-Kohli's uniform. Its the diarrhea brown color of the US
Army uniform which attracts naughty girls who hang around US Army
barracks like flies around a big turd. The color was caused by the
release of intestine gases by one million GI's eating beans in WW2
All sing together now:
The Navy get the gravy
and the poor Army get
the beans BEANS
beans BEANS beans
Baldrick
Baldrick
Hammond at paha...@onetel.net.uk wrote on 2/3/04 2:49 pm:
>
> Or maybe you are just dumb!
Sure I am so dumb I just love setting little missssssssssssspellling
traps for you and Yuk Yuk and Hawkeye Capt Kohli to fall headlong
into.
Watch this space
Baldrick
--
Dermod Ryder
> at m...@privacy.net wrote on 2/3/04 12:37 am:
>
> > Beats a Leading Stoker on a pig boat any day. All the girls love a
> > Captain - he's got a nicer uniform and a bigger pay cheque.
>
> Nonsense. I will explain: All the nice girls love saliors and their
> sky blue clean cut uniforms.
"Sky blue?" Surely that's the Air force? "saliors" wear navy blue.
> A salior dosnt need a big pay cheque to
> find a nice girl.
So what does he need? It's obvious you didn't or don't have what is needed.
Dermod Ryder
> in article c20l2t$1melj9$1...@ID-84503.news.uni-berlin.de, Dermod Ryder
> at m...@privacy.net wrote on 2/3/04 12:37 am:
>
> >
> > Sounds like you enjoyed the experience! BTW that's "baton" and
"Khyber!"
>
> Is this why you never got a decent job in all your life Yuk Yuk? You
> were too busy correcting typo's in other people's posts.
We all bow before your superior knowledge Baldie! You are truly the Saviour
of mankind.
> I supopose you are still suffering from resentment and jealousy
> because a dunderhead from East Belfast who cant spell to save his
> life, yet he wrote a book., amazing ain't it?
I have little doubt that you produced a manuscript but I would venture that
it was a good editor who turned it into a book, albeit one of limited
interest and circulation. 'Tis yourself who described yourself as a
"dunderhead" and, for sure, 'tis yourself knows yourself better than any of
us could. But, at least and, you can draw consolation from this, there's
nary a one here would disagree with your self assessment.
> Sounds like you have a strong dose of inferiority complex poor poor
> guy.
Only slightly, Baldie! How can one compete with you - one whose assorted
scribblings and musings have only been used on occasion to influence courts,
tribunals, banks, financial institutions and one or two government
departments. And I can't even prove it as I'm bound by professional
confidentiality.
Jeremiah
Oh no! The reaper's sending henchmen for your scalp...but then you are
already blad-rick and have lost your hair...so it's not Delilah - hang
in there.
>
> Baldrick
>
> --
Baldrick
at m...@privacy.net wrote on 3/3/04 12:17 am:
in article 20040302230031...@mb-m10.aol.com, Susan Maneck
at sma...@aol.com wrote on 3/3/04 4:00 am:
>>
>> "All those times from Zuhur" is something the pixies told you Cal.
>
> As I said, he is disingenious.
Dermod Ryder
Even the No I Ass-professor on TRB makes typos or gets her spelling
**disingenuous** wrong now and again. But to nitpick her over it is
the last thing I would (usually) think of doing. There are many
others whose composition, sentence structure, grammar, spelling etc
etc is not AI on TRB. Or is it just yours Hammond & Kohli's continous
inferiority complexes that keeps popping up all the time when you
three nitpick me as if you were appointed TRB's moderating English
instructors?
With regards mentioning my book, I only use it as an example when my
reading and writing skills are attacked on TRB to show that success
can be achieved by those who may not be a Dickens or a professional
historian if they get off their butts, get their pens out, and stop
condemning others.
One of the reasons my book was published by History Ireland was
because there is a huge movement going in this country supported by
professional writers & Historians to get people from both backgrounds
to write about working class modern history covering the past 100
years
It was professional historians John Gray and Tony Canavan who
incouraged me to write a modern historical biography exposing a
political and religious sectarian wrongdoing in my home City of
Belfast. I only have a visual art degree not a History degree.
Likewise numerous people from the art, history and literature world
have congratulated me on writing my book. You, Kohli and Hammond seem
to be the only ones who because of prejudiced hatred, spite, &
jealousy have castigated both my art work and my book.
Pat Kohli the Bahai fundamentalist is the most devious one out of all
three of you. His underhand remarks over my education, and writing
show Bahaism up for all its disgraceful and under the belt
hypocrisy.. In this Bahai magazine
http://www.bahai.org.uk/uk_review/prev_iss/2/p4.htm my art work and
writing is praised no end, yet once I resign in 2002 all of a sudden
fundamentalist Bahai like Pat Kohli call it illiterate rubbish.
I intend to stand up and defend my art work and my writing.
Baldrick
Dermod Ryder
> It was professional historians John Gray
I thought he was a librarian. Does he know his career has been changed?
> and Tony Canavan who
> incouraged me to write a modern historical biography exposing a
> political and religious sectarian wrongdoing in my home City of
> Belfast. I only have a visual art degree not a History degree.
> Likewise numerous people from the art, history and literature world
> have congratulated me on writing my book. You, Kohli and Hammond seem
> to be the only ones who because of prejudiced hatred, spite, &
> jealousy have castigated both my art work and my book.
It's a free world, Baldie! We are free to criticise your work should we
wish to do so. I don't care how many people you claim have heaped praise
upon it - I wasn't and am not impressed by your book or your art. But
that's my opinion, to which I am entitled. It has nothing to do with
prejudice, hatred spite or jealousy and all to do with the crap you have
spewed on this forum ever since you came here. Frankly I do not see how a
book, of any merit, can come from one whose disjointed ramblings here are a
byword for confusion, hatred, irrationality and illiteracy. We could live
with all of that if it were not for the arrogant pomposity with which they
have been inflicted on us.
I do wonder what all these people would make of your comments here. Perhaps
they should be told.
And BTW one book doth not an author make! The great test is the second
volume. When shall we expect this event?
> Pat Kohli the Bahai fundamentalist is the most devious one out of all
> three of you. His underhand remarks over my education, and writing
> show Bahaism up for all its disgraceful and under the belt
> hypocrisy.. In this Bahai magazine
> http://www.bahai.org.uk/uk_review/prev_iss/2/p4.htm my art work and
> writing is praised no end, yet once I resign in 2002 all of a sudden
> fundamentalist Bahai like Pat Kohli call it illiterate rubbish.
I didn't realise that Pat had authored this article.
Didn't you realise that BIGS praise all work from fellow BIGS even though it
be the most appalling effluent? It's a part of the culture.
> I intend to stand up and defend my art work and my writing.
You do that dreary! But don't expect cheques in the post from us to
purchase your inanities!
Baldrick
at m...@privacy.net wrote on 3/3/04 9:52 am:
Your spite and resentment is really a mirror image against your own
failures in life. Baldrick
--
Dermod Ryder
> failures in life. Baldrick
> --
What failures, Baldie? Failure to be a nasty illiterate sectarian bigot
like you? Failure to have a book published or splash some paint on a canvas
and call it art?
Hah Baldie - I like what I'm doing and can't tell you about !
BTW No point in asking the old biddy network about it - no knowledge there
of what's going on .... not that there ever was!
Baldrick
at m...@privacy.net wrote on 3/3/04 4:50 pm:
> Hah Baldie - I like what I'm doing and can't tell you about !
Thats because Yuk Yuk the drop out ain't doing much except chain
smoking himself into an early grave.
Baldrick
Dermod Ryder
Wowee! You forgot the alcoholism - I take an odd drink or three!
Mr. Bad Judgement
I'd thought you were sheilding yourself behind your book about the time
that Dermod was expounding on the relative strengths and employment
scnearios between the Avro Lancasters and the B-17 Flying Forts. You
shushed him as simply spouting pub opinions. I checked Dermod's facts,
and psoted my findings, and then you denounced him as a plagiarist, w/o
pausing to recant your previous attack in the other direction.
> One of the reasons my book was published by History Ireland was
> because there is a huge movement going in this country supported by
> professional writers & Historians to get people from both backgrounds
> to write about working class modern history covering the past 100
> years
So, at the time, which were you, a professional writer, or a
professional historian? Either way, you don't seem to be an amatuer
writer or an amateur historian, at this time, so, what was the point of
bringing it up?
> It was professional historians John Gray and Tony Canavan who
> incouraged me to write a modern historical biography exposing a
> political and religious sectarian wrongdoing in my home City of
> Belfast. I only have a visual art degree not a History degree.
> Likewise numerous people from the art, history and literature world
> have congratulated me on writing my book. You, Kohli and Hammond seem
> to be the only ones who because of prejudiced hatred, spite, &
> jealousy have castigated both my art work and my book.
If you judge me to be prejudiced, hateful, spiteful, and jealous, then
that must be so. OTOH, I don't recall commenting on your visual
artwork, and on your book, the only thing I recall writing here was
speculation that you might have used a vanity press, which is not a
condemnation on the book, it is just a way to get it published. Even
so, I was willing to be corrected when you said it was not so, until you
said you had expenses associated with the book. Likewise, your threats
to reposses your paintings from Bridget are what cast them as children's
toys, recalled during a playground tantrum.
Please do show me where I've castigated the book itself, or your
paintings as artwork.
> Pat Kohli the Bahai fundamentalist is the most devious one out of all
> three of you. His underhand remarks over my education, and writing
> show Bahaism up for all its disgraceful and under the belt
> hypocrisy.. In this Bahai magazine
> http://www.bahai.org.uk/uk_review/prev_iss/2/p4.htm my art work and
> writing is praised no end, yet once I resign in 2002 all of a sudden
> fundamentalist Bahai like Pat Kohli call it illiterate rubbish.
I don't recall calling your book illiterate rubbish. I gather your
'categorizations' of me are not something you will substantiate.
> I intend to stand up and defend my art work and my writing.
>
Great. Would you be so kind as to show what attacks you are defending
your artwork and writing from? My remarks about your writing on _this_
forum stand where I've placed them. If I've said anything about the
writing in your book, I'll withdraw it as soon as you post it.
- Mr. Bad
Paul Hammond
Hmm. Ponder this, Balders. Didn't our corrections of your
speeling mishtakes become pertinant shortly after you
decided that the real issue wasn't whether Dermod knew
what he was talking about with regards to the bombing
of Dresden, but how many qualifications you had got,
how many books you had written, and how competent at
English composition you were.
You made this the issue. We didn't.
Someone who makes speeling mishtakes in a spelling
flame is opens themselves up to well deserved ridicule.
Bit defensive on this, aren't you? Maybe you're insecure
on this point?
> With regards mentioning my book, I only use it as an example when my
> reading and writing skills are attacked
Who attacked your reading and writing skills? The attack that
was made was you calling Dermod a pub drunk because he hadn't
just posted a googled URL, but had actually spent time
studying an issue. It was you that brought up sodding
Magennis.
> You, Kohli and Hammond seem
> to be the only ones who because of prejudiced hatred, spite, &
> jealousy have castigated both my art work and my book.
>
That's not the reason, Splasher. Try again.
Paul
Baldrick
Judgement at kohliCUT...@ameritel.net wrote on 3/3/04 11:57 pm:
> Please do show me where I've castigated the book itself, or your
> paintings as artwork.
You stated cynically that I should seek a refund for my education at
university. When in itself is an insult to all artwork I have done
since leaving University. As an ex Cap't of the US airborne (which we
have only your word for) you never ever attended University yourself,
which I find most unusual for an ex-Officer in the US Army. Maybe you
are one of those guys who left the Military and think the world owes
you a living.
Because You Pat Kohli are the biggest jerk of an arsehole 2nd to pig
Queen Maneck herself. A mixer and an evil schemer who uses other
peoples arguments to manipulate yourself onto a selfrigheous pedestal.
If this is the way you acted whilst in the US Army then I feel sorry
for those guys who served in your regiment. You must have been one
bastard.
Your sleaked and devious record on TRB is well recorded by many
Bahai's and ex-Bahai's alike.
The only reason Yuk Yuk licks your butt is because he is at the same
game as you only in reverse. What seems to have slipped his mind Is I
am not a BIGS anymore. My resigination effed up all his devious little
plans at using me as a platform to attack the local minor BIGS
personalites here.which he has had an ongoing vendetta for 25 years.
Fred, Nima, Rod and many others can see right through Pat Kohli's
gutless yellow backbone. Need I say more
Baldrick
Baldrick
Judgement at kohliCUT...@ameritel.net wrote on 3/3/04 11:57 pm:
> Likewise, your threats to reposses your paintings from Bridget are what cast them as children's toys, recalled during a playground tantrum.
This is an example of your fundamentalist sleaked BIGs dirty trick
mentality Kohli of trying to mix it again between Brid and Myself.
TRB is your playground, well this kid ain't playing your game anymore.
Baldrick
Baldrick
Dermod Ryder
> in article c25qt2$1pkr4l$1...@ID-75487.news.uni-berlin.de, Mr. Bad
> Judgement at kohliCUT...@ameritel.net wrote on 3/3/04 11:57 pm:
>
> > Please do show me where I've castigated the book itself, or your
> > paintings as artwork.
>
> You stated cynically that I should seek a refund for my education at
> university. When in itself is an insult to all artwork I have done
> since leaving University. As an ex Cap't of the US airborne (which we
> have only your word for)
We have only your word that you were a Leading Stoker in the Navy!
> you never ever attended University yourself,
?????????????????????????
> which I find most unusual for an ex-Officer in the US Army.
You know a lot of them?
> Maybe you
> are one of those guys who left the Military and think the world owes
> you a living.
Not at all like you Baldie!
> Because You Pat Kohli are the biggest jerk of an arsehole 2nd to pig
> Queen Maneck herself. A mixer and an evil schemer who uses other
> peoples arguments to manipulate yourself onto a selfrigheous pedestal.
> If this is the way you acted whilst in the US Army then I feel sorry
> for those guys who served in your regiment. You must have been one
> bastard.
A Captain normally commands a company, not a regiment.
> Your sleaked and devious record on TRB is well recorded by many
> Bahai's and ex-Bahai's alike.
As is yours!
> The only reason Yuk Yuk licks your butt is because he is at the same
> game as you only in reverse. What seems to have slipped his mind Is I
> am not a BIGS anymore.
How could that have happened? Especially considering how often you proclaim
it?
> My resigination effed up all his devious little
> plans at using me as a platform to attack the local minor BIGS
> personalites here.which he has had an ongoing vendetta for 25 years.
Use you as a platform? I don't think so, Baldie!
Let's face facts - I had the local BIGS terrorised long before you ever
turned up on the scene as St George With the Broken Lance trying to muscle
in on my glory!
> Fred, Nima, Rod and many others can see right through Pat Kohli's
> gutless yellow backbone. Need I say more
And just as many can discern your cheap, sad, dirty, little, transparent and
vacuous mind!
Dermod Ryder
You're off then? Byeeeee!
>
> Baldrick
Baldrick
at m...@privacy.net wrote on 4/3/04 10:16 am:
>
> A Captain normally commands a company, not a regiment.
How come we dont have a peep from Kohli telling us about his US Army
(Airborne) experience? He could have been private medic Pat Kohli
acting the part of Capt. Benjamin Franklin 'Hawkeye' Pierce in the
christmas pantomine called "MASH" in his base in Germany.
> Let's face facts - I had the local BIGS terrorised long before you ever
> turned up on the scene
Well its good to get you admit you enjoyed "TERRORISING" other
Bahai's I wonder what your buddy Ex Capt Kohli (US Airborne) has to
say about that?
>> Fred, Nima, Rod and many others can see right through Pat Kohli's
>> gutless yellow backbone. Need I say more
>
> And just as many can discern your cheap, sad, dirty, little, transparent and
> vacuous mind!
AHHHHHHHHHH! Yuk Yuk the vermin dont like it when the rat catcher
Baldrick starts to get him cornered, he starts spitting, hissing and
screaming like the coward that he is. Baldrick
Dermod Ryder
> (Airborne) experience? He could have been private medic Pat Kohli
> acting the part of Capt. Benjamin Franklin 'Hawkeye' Pierce in the
> christmas pantomine called "MASH" in his base in Germany.
How come we don't get a peep from Leading Stoker Baldie telling us about his
pig boat experiences, roaming the North Cape seeking civilian targets to
sink? Or mebbe he wasn't a Leading Stoker and more of a Galley Swab
weighting the trash before dumping it?
> > Let's face facts - I had the local BIGS terrorised long before you ever
> > turned up on the scene
>
> Well its good to get you admit you enjoyed "TERRORISING" other
> Bahai's I wonder what your buddy Ex Capt Kohli (US Airborne) has to
> say about that?
It's even better to know you know that I had them terrorised without your
dubious assistance.
> >> Fred, Nima, Rod and many others can see right through Pat Kohli's
> >> gutless yellow backbone. Need I say more
> >
> > And just as many can discern your cheap, sad, dirty, little, transparent
and
> > vacuous mind!
>
> AHHHHHHHHHH! Yuk Yuk the vermin dont like it when the rat catcher
> Baldrick starts to get him cornered, he starts spitting, hissing and
> screaming like the coward that he is. Baldrick
That's precisely what you are Baldie - a rat catcher .... but not a very
good one. You can't tell the difference between the cats and the rats. You
should have gone to Specsavers!
Baldrick
at m...@privacy.net wrote on 4/3/04 2:21 pm:
> "Baldrick" <baldri...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:9b91a665.04030...@posting.google.com...
>> How come we dont have a peep from Kohli telling us about his US
Army
>> (Airborne) experience? He could have been private medic Pat Kohli
>> acting the part of Capt. Benjamin Franklin 'Hawkeye' Pierce in the
>> christmas pantomine called "MASH" in his base in Germany.
>
> How come we don't get a peep from Leading Stoker Baldie telling us about his
> pig boat experiences, roaming the North Cape seeking civilian targets to
> sink? Or mebbe he wasn't a Leading Stoker and more of a Galley Swab
> weighting the trash before dumping it?
I joined the RN in 1957 as a Boy entrant (ME2) Mechanical Engineer 2nd
class and when I left the Navy 22 years later I had the rank of 2nd
Engineer. I have all my naval papers, officers discharge book etc with
all the boats/ships, dates and times I served on for anyone to see if
they wish. I have nothing to hide.
>
>>> Let's face facts - I had the local BIGS terrorised long before you
ever
>>> turned up on the scene
>>
>> Well its good to get you admit you enjoyed "TERRORISING" other
>> Bahai's I wonder what your buddy Ex Capt Kohli (US Airborne) has
to
>> say about that?
>
> It's even better to know you know that I had them terrorised without your
> dubious assistance.
You would never have my assistance because it is not my business to
run around "terrorising" anyone, be they Baha'i or Non-Baha'i.
>
>>>> Fred, Nima, Rod and many others can see right through Pat Kohli's
>>>> gutless yellow backbone. Need I say more
>>>
>>> And just as many can discern your cheap, sad, dirty, little,
transparent
> and
>>> vacuous mind!
>>
>> AHHHHHHHHHH! Yuk Yuk the vermin dont like it when the rat catcher
>> Baldrick starts to get him cornered, he starts spitting, hissing
and
>> screaming like the coward that he is.
Baldrick
>
> That's precisely what you are Baldie - a rat catcher .... but not a very
> good one. You can't tell the difference between the cats and the rats. You
> should have gone to Specsavers!
I know what you are, a bully boy rat, and an effing gutless coward.
you have already admitted how you enjoyed terrorising, certain members
of the Baha'is of Northern Ireland.
Baldrick
Paul Hammond
Oh really?
Whatever happened to 'Umble George:
"All they can do
is vent their spleen , full of malice and spite at lille ole Baldrick
here who is trying to live a humble life and do something creative"
It couldn't possibly be that this hard done by martyr to the
malice of other people, who he hasn't done *anything* to
offend, could be a total figment of Splasher's imagination,
could it?
Say it ain't so!
Paul
Paul Hammond
> Judgement at kohliCUT...@ameritel.net wrote on 3/3/04 11:57 pm:
>
> > Please do show me where I've castigated the book itself, or your
> > paintings as artwork.
>
> You stated cynically that I should seek a refund for my education at
> university.
Try again. Pat's question was "Please do show where I've castigated
the book itself, or your paintings as artwork".
How much *did* your education cost, Splasher?
If you need any more help understanding the question, you
only need to ask.
Cheers!
Paul
Paul Hammond
>
> > which I find most unusual for an ex-Officer in the US Army.
>
> You know a lot of them?
>
They are his favourite bed companions.
Paul
Baldrick
Hammond at paha...@onetel.net.uk wrote on 4/3/04 3:43 pm:
> baldri...@yahoo.co.uk (Baldrick) wrote in message
> news:<9b91a665.04030...@posting.google.com>...
So what do you think about your buddy Dermod terrorising the baha'is
of Northern Ireland.
Does the great Bahai protector AO mole MoHamHead support him?
We should all be told
Baldrick
>
> Paul
Baldrick
Hammond at paha...@onetel.net.uk wrote on 4/3/04 3:47 pm:
> How much *did* your education cost, Splasher?
In fact when I was at University for 5 years I made money, because I
won a lot of scholarships and was successful in applying for
sponsorships, which covered fees and living expenses etc etc. Its all
about knowing how to work the system, applying for sponsors and if
your work is good enought you are recommended for ongoing
scholarships. The answer is hard work pays and you reap the benifits,
instead of wasting your time in the student's union drinking and
smoking dope like a lot of dropouts do
Baldrick
--
Paul Hammond
> at m...@privacy.net wrote on 4/3/04 2:21 pm:
>
> > "Baldrick" <baldri...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:9b91a665.04030...@posting.google.com...
> >> How come we dont have a peep from Kohli telling us about his US
> Army
> >> (Airborne) experience? He could have been private medic Pat Kohli
> >> acting the part of Capt. Benjamin Franklin 'Hawkeye' Pierce in the
> >> christmas pantomine called "MASH" in his base in Germany.
> >
> > How come we don't get a peep from Leading Stoker Baldie telling us about his
> > pig boat experiences, roaming the North Cape seeking civilian targets to
> > sink? Or mebbe he wasn't a Leading Stoker and more of a Galley Swab
> > weighting the trash before dumping it?
>
> I joined the RN in 1957 as a Boy entrant (ME2) Mechanical Engineer 2nd
> class and when I left the Navy 22 years later I had the rank of 2nd
> Engineer. I have all my naval papers, officers discharge book etc with
> all the boats/ships, dates and times I served on for anyone to see if
> they wish. I have nothing to hide.
Yawn. You are a grave-pissing sectarian bigot, and I don't
need to "see your papers" to work that out.
> >
> >>> Let's face facts - I had the local BIGS terrorised long before you
> ever
> >>> turned up on the scene
> >>
> >> Well its good to get you admit you enjoyed "TERRORISING" other
> >> Bahai's I wonder what your buddy Ex Capt Kohli (US Airborne) has
> to
> >> say about that?
> >
> > It's even better to know you know that I had them terrorised without your
> > dubious assistance.
>
> You would never have my assistance because it is not my business to
> run around "terrorising" anyone, be they Baha'i or Non-Baha'i.
>
This is a bit of a red herring, isn't it? Dermod neither
wants nor needs your assisstance. he'd be in a piss-poor
way if he did.
>
> I know what you are, a bully boy rat, and an effing gutless coward.
> you have already admitted how you enjoyed terrorising, certain members
> of the Baha'is of Northern Ireland.
>
Oh, I think we are back with 'umble George, the poor hard
done by martyr, who never spammed a soul in his life
because the aliens did it really. Shame he's just a
figment of Splasher's imagination, huh?
And, 'Umble George has spoken:
"All they can do
is vent their spleen , full of malice and spite at lille ole Baldrick
here who is trying to live a humble life and do something creative"
Poor lille ole Baldie!
Paul
Paul Hammond
You conned a load of people into paying for you? When are
you going to refund the money they wasted?
PSST - you still haven't answered the question Pat
asked you.
There's one about Saddam of mine you are still avoiding
too.
Any answers?
Paul
Mr. Bad Judgement
Baldrick wrote:
I'm glad to read you made a lot of money at school. You never know when
money will be needed to cover the expenses of getting a book published.
I'm also glad to read that the environment in Northern Ireland is
supportive of retired sailors, and willing to give such men scholarships
to pursue visual arts. I wish the US were so generous.
- Mr. Bad
Mr. Bad Judgement
Baldrick wrote:
> in article c26vo7$1qb3i3$1...@ID-84503.news.uni-berlin.de, Dermod Ryder
> at m...@privacy.net wrote on 4/3/04 10:16 am:
>
>
>>A Captain normally commands a company, not a regiment.
>
>
> How come we dont have a peep from Kohli telling us about his US Army
> (Airborne) experience?
I believe I already posted about that.
"Thanks, but I think the fact that I had sappers overshadows my airborne
qualifications."
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl3056463359d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=c977f97b.0403010808.1e8c492c%40posting.google.com
Have you anteed up on your publishing expenses?
> He could have been private medic Pat Kohli
> acting the part of Capt. Benjamin Franklin 'Hawkeye' Pierce in the
> christmas pantomine called "MASH" in his base in Germany.
>
George, you can be so imaginative when you care to be.
>
>>Let's face facts - I had the local BIGS terrorised long before you ever
>>turned up on the scene
>
>
> Well its good to get you admit you enjoyed "TERRORISING" other
> Bahai's I wonder what your buddy Ex Capt Kohli (US Airborne) has to
> say about that?
>
Sounds like Dermod is in touch w/ what he is about. I'm not sure that
terrorizing is a good vocation, though. Don't you wish that you could
say why you are here?
>
>>>Fred, Nima, Rod and many others can see right through Pat Kohli's
>>>gutless yellow backbone. Need I say more
>>
Ew, my feelings!
>>
>>And just as many can discern your cheap, sad, dirty, little, transparent and
>>vacuous mind!
>
>
> AHHHHHHHHHH! Yuk Yuk the vermin dont like it when the rat catcher
> Baldrick starts to get him cornered, he starts spitting, hissing and
> screaming like the coward that he is. Baldrick
Cripes! George, you don't have to fast any more. Have a biscuit. It
will help your bloodsugar.
- Mr. Bad
Mr. Bad Judgement
Baldrick wrote:
> in article c25qt2$1pkr4l$1...@ID-75487.news.uni-berlin.de, Mr. Bad
> Judgement at kohliCUT...@ameritel.net wrote on 3/3/04 11:57 pm:
>
>
>>Likewise, your threats to reposses your paintings from Bridget are what cast them as children's toys, recalled during a playground tantrum.
>
>
> This is an example of your fundamentalist sleaked BIGs dirty trick
Nope, it's your dirty trick; I'm just trying to contextualize any
remarks I _may_ have made about your paintings.
In addressing Dermod, you had alleged that,
>>> You, Kohli and Hammond seem to be the only
>>> ones who because of prejudiced hatred, spite,
>>> & jealousy have castigated both my art work and my book.
Remember?
You seemed to pluck me out of nowhere, and interject me in your
disagreement with Dermod. You brought in the paintings and me in
addressing Dermod. Now it seems you wave this red herring because you
don't care to substantiate your allegation. It's _your_ dirty trick.
> mentality Kohli of trying to mix it again between Brid and Myself.
I have not seen Brid in a while. Last time I saw her, the two of you
were getting along like you were not getting along so well. If you are
getting along better now, great, and if you are not, don't blame me,
_you_ were the one who told her off, falsely accusing her,
"So I was right all along you did have a nice little backbiting gossip
with DR about Errol all along, and you are angry because I caught you
out."
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1772737727d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=a38fb763.0311171330.3e8b0a4%40posting.google.com
> TRB is your playground, well this kid ain't playing your game anymore.
>
Whatever you say, George.
- Mr. Bad
Susan Maneck
>supportive of retired sailors, and willing to give such men scholarships
>to pursue visual arts. I wish the US were so generous.
There is always the GI Bill.
http://bahaistudies.net/susanmaneck/
Baha'i Studies is available through the following:
http://list.jccc.net/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=bahai-st
Baldrick
at sma...@aol.com wrote on 5/3/04 1:19 am:
>> I'm also glad to read that the environment in Northern Ireland is
>> supportive of retired sailors, and willing to give such men
scholarships
>> to pursue visual arts. I wish the US were so generous.
>
> There is always the GI Bill.
Its all here Mr Kohli, the UK military does not have such a Bill like
this.
http://www.gibill.va.gov/
http://www.gibill.va.gov/education/benefits.htm
http://www.gibillexpress.com/?loc=LN
>
> http://bahaistudies.net/susanmaneck/
> Baha'i Studies is available through the following:
> http://list.jccc.net/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=bahai-st
>
>
--
Baldrick
Judgement at kohliCUT...@ameritel.net wrote on 4/3/04 11:39 pm:
>
> Baldrick wrote:
>
>> in article c977f97b.04030...@posting.google.com, Paul
>> Hammond at paha...@onetel.net.uk wrote on 4/3/04 3:47 pm:
>>
>>
>>> How much *did* your education cost, Splasher?
>>
>>
>> In fact when I was at University for 5 years I made money, because
I
>> won a lot of scholarships and was successful in applying for
>> sponsorships, which covered fees and living expenses etc etc. Its
all
>> about knowing how to work the system, applying for sponsors and if
>> your work is good enought you are recommended for ongoing
>> scholarships. The answer is hard work pays and you reap the
benifits,
>> instead of wasting your time in the student's union drinking and
>> smoking dope like a lot of dropouts do
>>
> I'm glad to read you made a lot of money at school. You never know when
> money will be needed to cover the expenses of getting a book published.
Why dont you tell the truth Kohli? Why would you, Yuk Yuk or MoHamHead
be glad or pleased of any positive success I ever had in my life. You
three dispise my guts.
> I'm also glad to read that the environment in Northern Ireland is
> supportive of retired sailors, and willing to give such men scholarships
> to pursue visual arts.
Since when does one retire when they are in their early 40's? There
was no empoloyment for Marine engineers when I came ashore so I had to
seek out something new, and I chose to study art and go to University
for five years.
> I wish the US were so generous.
The US is generous, its knowing were to look you qualify for the GI
Bill
thats if you served for five years. The Brit military dont have this.
http://www.gibill.va.gov/
http://www.gibill.va.gov/education/benefits.htm
http://www.gibillexpress.com/?loc=LN
>
There were an American girl in my post grad year who was awarded an
art scholarship and sponsorship to cover fees and living expenses to
come to Europe and study for two years. Its having the right work and
knowing were to apply in the art world. Numerous companies supply
sponsorship. During that year my whole class were sponsored to go to
Istanbul for 10 days to study byzantine art free. In fact the sponsors
give us all pocket money as well.
Baldwick
>
Mr. Bad Judgement
Were you thinking of the expenses in his book, or the examples of me
castigating his paintings, or something from three days ago?
Clearly he won't be getting a refund on his University Education.
- Mr. Bad
Baldrick
Judgement at kohliCUT...@ameritel.net wrote on 5/3/04 2:21 am:
Its all here ex-Capt Kohli in the GI bill if you want to study and go
to University. So dont say your country has not given you support. In
fact the US is the best country for anyone wanting to go to University
and has not got the bucks to pay for it. Join the military for five
years.
http://www.gibill.va.gov/
http://www.gibill.va.gov/education/benefits.htm
http://www.gibillexpress.com/?loc=LN
Baldrick
Mr. Bad Judgement
Susan Maneck wrote:
>>I'm also glad to read that the environment in Northern Ireland is
>>supportive of retired sailors, and willing to give such men scholarships
>>to pursue visual arts. I wish the US were so generous.
>
>
> There is always the GI Bill.
>
It certainly is not what it used to be. I had to pay in, during my time
in service, to collect anything.
- Mr. Bad
Mr. Bad Judgement
Baldrick wrote:
> in article c25qt2$1pkr4l$1...@ID-75487.news.uni-berlin.de, Mr. Bad
> Judgement at kohliCUT...@ameritel.net wrote on 3/3/04 11:57 pm:
>
>
>>Please do show me where I've castigated the book itself, or your
>>paintings as artwork.
>
>
> You stated cynically that I should seek a refund for my education at
> university.
I do recall suggesting to you that you pursue a refund on your college
education. I suffered from the assumption, that, like mine, it was of
some value. Mine was probably worth $40,000, plus labor, back in the
late 1970s. I figured you might find the money useful, but you
straightened me out on that one, eh?
> When in itself is an insult to all artwork I have done
> since leaving University.
How do you figure? It seemed to me to be a tip that might be worth
50,000 pounds, or so, to you.
> As an ex Cap't of the US airborne (which we
> have only your word for) you never ever attended University yourself,
How do you figure that? You've already asked me about that, and I
answered.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl2044596527d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=bugrnu%24hd0pa%241%40ID-75487.news.uni-berlin.de&rnum=44
You recalled the recreational marijuana use in the 1970s, but now you
forgot my education?
> which I find most unusual for an ex-Officer in the US Army.
Excuse me? I'd thought you'd just deduced I had no education, as I had
been an airbonre qualified officer. It seems you don't know if these
guys do, or do not have educations.
> Maybe you
> are one of those guys who left the Military and think the world owes
> you a living.
Maybe you are a cyberstalker, and, while looking for my current employer
(as you did with Susan Maneck), you'd already determined I had some
involvement in Avionics?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl4235441173d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=BA65F264.F566%25george.fleming2%40ntlworld.com
Thus, it is late on your part to suggest that I am a layabout. You say
that about _all_ the guys, doncha?
> Because You Pat Kohli are the biggest jerk of an arsehole 2nd to pig
> Queen Maneck herself.
Of course! You say I've castigated your paintings, and I have the
temerity to question that allegation, dduhhhhhh!
> A mixer and an evil schemer who uses other
> peoples arguments to manipulate yourself onto a selfrigheous pedestal.
I'm sure you are not the only one, even if you are the most obvious one
on TRB.
> If this is the way you acted whilst in the US Army then I feel sorry
> for those guys who served in your regiment. You must have been one
> bastard.
As it happens, I went to Officer Candidate School, so, at least
initially, my parents were married.
> Your sleaked and devious record on TRB is well recorded by many
> Bahai's and ex-Bahai's alike.
>
> The only reason Yuk Yuk licks your butt is because he is at the same
> game as you only in reverse. What seems to have slipped his mind Is I
> am not a BIGS anymore. My resigination effed up all his devious little
> plans at using me as a platform to attack the local minor BIGS
> personalites here.which he has had an ongoing vendetta for 25 years.
You attack Baha'is in good standing, and Dermod does. You can't seem to
keep your story straight on squat, and Dermod can. No one questions
your right to be jealous, George, no one.
> Fred, Nima, Rod and many others can see right through Pat Kohli's
> gutless yellow backbone. Need I say more
Your a fine one to call me gutless. When I stood up to your bullying
and accepted your challange to contact your NSA advising them of your
conduct, you were the one who complained. You even tried to blackmail
my NSA, in retaliation, not just advising them of what I was doing, but
demanding that they order me off of TRB, or suffer your continued
spamming. When you write, "gutless yellow backbone" I think your TRB
readers will read you as an authority.
- Mr. Bad
Paul Hammond
> >
> >
> > Oh really?
> >
> > Whatever happened to 'Umble George:
> >
> > "All they can do
> > is vent their spleen , full of malice and spite at lille ole Baldrick
> > here who is trying to live a humble life and do something creative"
> >
> > http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=g:thl1230488975d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe
> > =UTF-8&selm=9b91a665.0403010623.19988a3f%40posting.google.com
> >
> > It couldn't possibly be that this hard done by martyr to the
> > malice of other people, who he hasn't done *anything* to
> > offend, could be a total figment of Splasher's imagination,
> > could it?
> >
> > Say it ain't so!
>
> So what do you think about your buddy Dermod terrorising the baha'is
> of Northern Ireland.
>
> Does the great Bahai protector AO mole MoHamHead support him?
>
> We should all be told
>
> Baldrick
Of course. Always. In everything he does.
Might wanna revise that crap...er conspiracy theory there
Bald farts.
Now then, any answers?
Baldrick
Judgement at kohliCUT...@ameritel.net wrote on 5/3/04 2:55 am:
>> Fred, Nima, Rod and many others can see right through Pat Kohli's
>> gutless yellow backbone. Need I say more
>
> Your a fine one to call me gutless. When I stood up to your bullying
> and accepted your challange to contact your NSA advising them of your
> conduct, you were the one who complained.
Who do you think you are Capt-Bahai-Hawkeye Kohli? Did you not know
you breached Bahai law for a start. In the Bahai faith if you have any
complaint about another Bahai you are supposed to go through your own
NSA did you not know that? Just like your Pretentious President who
thinks he can go to war with any country he wishes and then order them
how to run their government all without UN approval. You and the Pig
Queen think you have the right to to do likewise to other world NSA's
about how they should control their Baha'is without the approval of
your own NSA. Did you not learn anything about protocol at that
officers school you attended?
Like wise if you think someone is committing net abuse on TRB (which
in fact every one does because they dont abide 100% by the charter)
its their ISP's you are supposed to go through not their NSA..
Then both you and Susan Maneck start screaming foul when I in turn
retaliate and report you both back to your NSA. What a pair of
hypocrites the both of you are.
Here go and read below what another Baha'i you and Maneck (helped exit
Bahaism) thinks of you. Baldrick
Newsgroups: <talk.religion.bahai>
Subject: Pat K, A joke
From: Rod <kas...@tpg.com.au>
Newsgroups: <talk.religion.bahai>
Date: TuesdayJanuary 661020042002 5:28 pm
Subject: Pat K, A joke...
Your entire argument has already been refuted and exposed
Pont by bloody point-
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=g:thl1743303796d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&
selm=8ccded73.0309140328.3d2ad143%40posting.google.com&rnum=45
You ignore all points of refutation....fail to respond to the
post...and
months later attempt to run the same line of crap AS IF it had not
already been debunked.
Bottom line confirmation of your backflip bullshit here-
> I understood I was being associated with anti faith faction- Randy
> understood this, Cal understood this, Karen understood this, Dermod
> understood this, Susan understood this and you understood this.
>
> So what's changed Pat?
>
"You have been hounding her, for months, just as Dusty hounded you.
That is
what has changed" PK
Wipe your lying arse with your own words again Koli. You do not deny
what all recognised at the time...you simply claim that because I
chased her
for her false categorisation this somehow "changes" it. Your
irrational argument is bizarre...She attempts to steal from me, I cry
"stop thief! explain yourself!" you cry "Just like the thieves at
Beliefnet, not nice"....then when I pursue her you claim the pursuit
negates the crime.
For the record....Dusty did not hound me, I hounded him. For exactly
the
same reason I persuade Susan...neither would stand and explain their
vitriol and accusations, none in the Baha'i apologist gallery would
object to their abhorrent behaviour....and....in the end... having had
all attempts to discuss/resolve the issue thrown back in my face....it
was the hounding, and the hounding alone, that created an environment
in which they dared not
do it again. Despite the open and tacit support received by the limp
wristed
such as yourself.
.> you'll be writing me from the killfile.
So what bloody difference will that make? You don't respond to the
core
points made, you flee from issues and repeatedly ignore entire posts,
you recycle old arguments long answered and debunked, you say "Ta Ta,
I won't be responding to you" then you pop up with the same tired
shite. I'll stand to rebuke your blatantly hypocritical bullshit point
by laborious point every time you put it up (see below) you go right
ahead and crawl under your killfile rock with Susan. It is the surest
confirmation of the complete defeat of your intelectual inadequacy and
ethical deficiency..
> The one sided flaming began when she addressed you as 'you guys'. I've
> pointed that out to you before.
The "one sided flaming began" with Susans "Jackass", "paranoid",
"nasty"
flames which you, in your desperate spin doctor revision subsequently
ignore/dismiss as "All good clean fun so far"
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=8ccded73.030914
0328.3d2ad143%40posting.google.com&rnum=5&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DEnemies%2Bof%2B
Faith%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D8ccded73.0309140328.3d2ad143%2
540posting.google.com%26rnum%3D5
> Though "you guys" may have been inappropriate, even
discourteous,
"Now you're associating him w/ a faction w/ a resignee, and a
crackpot, and that is not nice. Do we do this with others? This is
what happened at Beliefnet. It is not good" Pat K, recognising and
articulating the repetition of the enemy of faith allegations on
Bnet... before the obfuscation, backflip, historical revision spin
doctor hypocrisy sets in on top of his ethical crisis..
>your subsequent unrelenting snipings and libelings of her are in
> another league from an intemperate remark.
An opinion based on tribal bias, certainly not on the post record.
I did not level any accusation of anti faith alignment at Susan. I did
not begin a personalised flame war with Susan. I did not precede these
events with post after post of blatant misrepresentation. I did not
refuse to discuss, explain, substantiate any stated position nor
resort to glib, trite and evasive avoidance of the issue nor follow
with killfile. I consistently sought ('Why you should Susan') to
ascertain the origin and rationale behind her allegation, flame and
personalised attack and received naught but further allegation/abuse.
I did not respond in kind until I had exhausted all avenues of
resolution through dialogue and flagged my intent to embrace 'Susans
rules' well before ever stooping to do so.
You have subsequently evaded, ignored and distorted the reality of
what
transpired up to the point of accusing me of "starting fights" (while
I am
in the midst of attempting to defend against another
basless/unprovoked
EofF allegation which you steadfastly choose to ignore).
"libelings of " Susan? When someone attempts to steal from me I shout
"stop thief" and pursue them when they flee. You stand in the gutter
moaning- "Thief is a libellous charge" and "You pursue the alleged too
vigorously".
"Do we do this with others"?PK
Time after time after time.
"It is not good"PK It sucks
> Here is a quote from September 2003,
Great...you quote your own analysis of what transpired as further
screen
to any examination of actually transpired. What's more you quote from
the *One* post of yours on this issue that I did not respond to....The
reason I neglected to respond to the post you cite is because I could
not decide between-"Beneath contempt Pat" and "Fuck off Pat". It was,
and remains, the saddest lamest contribution you have made on any
issue and the fact that you would choose to link to it now (as
evidence of anything other than total blind bias) simply stuns me.
>when I was looking at the origins of your flamings of Susan Maneck,
Your own language reveals and betrays you...You went looking for the
origins of my flaming Susan and turned a blind eye to every occasion
she employed unprovoked ad hom.
> "Susan had referred to you as 'you guys' in a previous message,
Snip
I have covered this ground, responded to and debunked your analysis of
what transpired. You ignore/cut the counter argument, fail to respond
to the post and subsequently return to repeat the nonsense.
> and excused her mistake with a categorisation on your logic,
Bullshit. She confirmed the categorisation as EofF.
> Though your discourse may have been poor before Susan called you "you
> guys",
Poor? She misrepresented what I said at every turn. Go back and count
the number of times I was obliged to say- "I didn't say that Susan"
and factor that into your biased misrepresentation.
> you were not yet demanding that she substantiate
> various allegations which you would make up.
The allegation I made up and you challenged Susan over?
> I don't make it up as a go along, and then ask other to substantiate
> allegations which I made up for them,
No, you see it, call it out for what it is then turn around and say it
never
happened because I pursued her over it.
>AND, when confronted about making up the allegations myself, just
attribute
it right
> back to their intentions.
Her intention and meaning was clear, you recognised and objected to
it,
she declined all opportunity to clarify or deny the intent and
provided
further confirmation. (see prior linked post that you refused to
respond to)
> >
> > > I'd thought you'd made an ass of yourself with her when you decided
that she > was calling you an enemy of the faith ...
> >
> > No, you thought she was behaving just like those on Bnut and you said
> > so at the time.
>
> There was a variety of behaviour being exhibited on B-net.
>What you've done with Susan over the past year, is to exhibit the
> worst of the behaviour which you were subjected to.
An 'opinion that can be neither confirmed by review of post history
nor (even IF half true) serves as no excuse to NOW pretend that Susans
original unprovoked slander did not occur or is in any way "changed"
by my subsequent pursuit of her. Your argument is inane, insane and
morally bankrupt.
> > You subsequently did a back flip and changed your tune
> > completely
> > when (having exhausted all polite requests for Susan to substantiate)
> > I embraced her no rules/anything goes policy.
> >
>
> Oh. Let me give you a reality check, Rod. First off, don't put words in
> my mouth.
Your words- "Now you're associating him w/ a faction w/ a resignee,
and a
crackpot, and that is not nice. Do we do this with others? This is
what happened at Beliefnet. It is not good" Pat K From your big mouth.
Reality from post record checked and confirmed.
> Speak for yourself. If you think I said
> something, go ahead and look it up!
Just did, see above, provided for umpteenth time, ignoring it will not
make it cease to exist.
> As to last year, at the time, I thought Susan's use of "you guys" was
> inappropriate. I believe I did say it reminded me of
> Bnet.
We all "believe you did say it" Pat because its right there in the
reality
check. Since then you have made every effort to pretend that
recognised
reality has somehow "changed" because I pursued Susan over what we all
saw.
> However, back in Jan 03, I also said regarding _your_ behaviour in
>the matter:
> "My recollection was that Rod was less of a jackass over a year ago on
> B-Net,
So you joined with Susan in lame "jackass" ad hom? SO WHAT!? Neither
of you provided any explanation as to WHAT the alleged jackass insult
was supposed to be provoked by. Despite repeated requests (to Susan)
it remained (as did yours) just one of a string of ad homs devoid of
any justification/explanation.
So you called me a jackass without saying why....so what?
Most of your snide attacks and all of Susans remain unexplained.
> That was Jan 03. I found it a sad thing to be saying you were a
> hypocrite:
Now you are putting words (retrospectively) in your own mouth.
I saw no reference to you saying any such thing at the time.
> But, you decide that _I've_ done the backflip. Ha ha.
Yea.....a 2.3 Pike, Backflip and Bellywhacker
Here is part of the replay-
> I understood I was being associated with anti faith faction- Randy
> understood this, Cal understood this, Karen understood this, Dermod
> understood this, Susan understood this and you understood this.
>
> So what's changed Pat?
>
"You have been hounding her, for months, just as Dusty hounded you.
That is
what has changed" PK
> I won't bother waiting for a substantiation or a retraction,
The substantiation you have in spades....can you read it through your
cowards killfile? A retraction is demonstrably unwarranted.
>you just make it up, and excuse yourself when your
> fabrications are pointed out to you.
Koli...These boards are littered with posts/issues and resounding
rebuttals
that you must resort to killfile to avoid. I have knocked down your
every point and every equivocation at every turn....you have not even
responded to the points raised in my last post and your sounding
retreat clearly indicates you cannot/willnot respond to this one.
> You are a waste of time to read, and you'll be writing me from the
killfile.
So you keep telling me....then coming back to get the crap kicked out
of your equivocating arse once more.
> > You have subsequently attempted several spin doctor historical
> > revisions
> > of what transpired and fled when challenged on each occasion.
> >
>
> Bwa ha ha! I pointed out the relevant facts, Rod. You have accused Susan
> of making allegations against you, and she did not make those allegations.
Are you still hanging round toilet blocks with those child molesting
Priests
Pat?
Now I didn't just associate you with paedophiles did I Pat? I made or
inferred no direct allegation did I Pat? What I said was just a little
bit "inappropriate" wasn't it Pat?
No.........It was a fucking foul false slander....just like the one
you saw
Susan make.
> When you acknowledge that she did not make the
>allegation,
I have never made such "acknowledgment" you spin doctoring quack.
> you weasel back and renew your
> allegation. In February you started a thread, accusing her of accusing
>you of
??????????What Pat? Lost the thread as well as the plot? Can't
complete a coherent sentence?
I do thank you though for providing but a portion of my protracted
efforts to entice Susan to some clarification, resolution or (for her)
experimental ethical conduct-
> "Because it is the only moral option.
> Because it is the only ethical option.
> Because it is the only fair option.
> Because it is the only just option.
> Because it is the only intellectually credible option.
> Because it is the only peace option.
> Because it is the only healing option.
> Because it is the only truthful option
> Because it is the only principled option.
>
> Because Baha'u'llah was imprisoned on the basis of false allegations.
> Because Abdul Baha condemned lying.
>
> Because it is the only Baha'i option.
>
> Because you are entitled/welcome to engage in any ad hom and
> slander bar that which misrepresents and falsifies my relationship
> to my faith.
> Because when you transgress into the realm of an individuals relationship
> to their God and His Cause then you commit a trespass on sacred ground.
>
> Now, are there any arguments you would care to put forward as to why
> you should not explain and substantiate the public allegation that a
>member of the Baha'i Faith is a member of an anti faith faction?"
> Rod, in the "Why should I thread" Feb 2003
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=8ccded73.0302132249.
48dd619a%40posting.google.com
Yup....that's the heartfelt and sincere appeal I made towards enticing
resolution....here comes the spin doctor.
> Susan denies she ever made the allegation you accuse her of:
No she doesn't dipstik...she denies using the specify term
'anti-faith.'
SEE-
> "I never used the term 'anti-faith.' Have you been reading my mind?"
She never used the term 'anti faith'...she did not have to...her
meaning was
clear...seen and commented upon by several including YOU...never
subsequently refuted by Susan and in fact supported by further
innuendo.
Do you join the Fathers in wearing the frock when instructing Altar
Boys
Pat? Never used the term paedophile did I Pat?
> and you decide that was not necessary, as you could not only read it in
>her intention to do so, but, you allege that I could see it as well!
"Now you're associating him w/ a faction w/ a resignee, and a
crackpot, and that is not nice. Do we do this with others? This is
what happened at Beliefnet. It is not good" Pat K
THE *FACTION* YOU *SAW* ME BEING *ASSOCIATED*
WITH WAS THE ANTI BAHA'I FAITH FACTION....
you backflipping bastard.
> Despite acknowledging that this charge of "anti-faith"ness, is your
> inference,
Lie. Unsupported by anything in the post record
> In late August, you ask me if it is just your imagination that you were
> accused of bing an Enemy of the Faith on TRB. I'd
> assumed you were referring to Susan, w/o checking the details.
Pat lining up for the triple back flip and "I didn't check the
details"
Snip
> "Ah now Pat, Susan is an accademic and a professional, far too astute
> to come right out and blurt "EofF"...she simply lumped me into the
> anti faith faction, one of "them", and refused to
> explain/substantiate/justify."
> Rod, 4 September 2003
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1743303796d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&se
lm=8ccded73.0309040335.42669bd%40posting.google.com
>
> You see, Rod? You had already tried this "anti-faith" allegation, and it
> had already been found wanting.
What I see is you quoting what I have said all along. What are you
"wanting"? Concession that Susan never used the words "Enemy of the
Faith"? Done. Already. Thrice over. Irrelevant.
> This is not at all what Susan says about you; this is what you say
> that she says about you.
I say the police have your toilet block under survelience. I could say
that there is no clear allegation of association with a paedophile
faction therein......but that would be equivocating semantic bullshit.
Wouldn't it Pat?
>You've been repeating lies, and when you are
> confronted on the matter, you just make up another lie, in this case, one
> which was already exposed as simply your own inference.
And the commonly understood clear inference *changes* (in your eyes)
in accord with the length of the subsequent pursuit-
>I understood I was being associated with anti faith faction- Randy
> understood this, Cal understood this, Karen understood this, Dermod
> understood this, Susan understood this and you understood this.
>
> So what's changed Pat?
>
"You have been hounding her, for months, just as Dusty hounded you.
That is what has changed" PK
Until you backfip it to what YOU saw and challenged becomes 'my'
supposed "lie".
> > If you are not prepared to stand and defend your current opinion of
> > convenience from the harsh light of the reality of the post record...
> > why bother?
> >
>
> Why bother? I've told you this several times, and pointed out the
> examples!
The only "examples" you have provided are confirmations of what I
have said all along. (Why don't you put up your links to posts
purporting to show Baha'is defending each other from abusive innuendo
and allegations that actually demonstrated the opposite....they served
as good examples of exactly
what you are doing now).
> When you acknowledge that Susan never called you
> anti-faith, you rationalise,
Lie. I never made such acknowledgment. I recognised (as did you) that
she did not have to use those 'terms' to associate me with the anti
faith faction. All you offer is semantic quibble over precise use of
language.
> rather than apologise.
I apologise for not having recognised you as the backflipping twat
that you are earlier.
>You pursue your jihad,
Yea, yea, yea Koli.....I pursued Susan and that *changes* the
previously
mutually recognised reality of what she was saying........dream on
wanker.
>saying that she has deemed you an enemy of the
> faith (though I did not show that link here),
"Now you're associating him w/ a faction" PK
Must have been the Golden Haired Boys Faction hey Pat?
> and when you are confronted
> and asked to substantiate that, you weasel again,
> and rationalise your libels,
By confronting you time and time again with your own recognition
of what transpired?
> > > A bit of advice, though late, speak for yourself, Rod.
> >
> > Always have and have always stood prepared to back my assertions as
> > to what others say with links to their posts.
> >
>
> Not at all. Several times you've spoken for me, misrepresenting my views.
By quoting you directly? You are welcome to futile attempt to show me
doing
otherwise.
>Your vendetta against Susan, is, of course, based
> on words you put in her mouth.
Oh yea Koli.....I'm such a bad bad ass...flinging insult and ad hom
and
innuendo at Susan out of the blue....."jackass, paranoid, nasty,
obnoxious,
one of 'those guys' in the anti faith faction" And Susan has been such
a sweet Baha'i angel....hastening to quickly clarify any
misunderstanding or misreading of the intent we both/all read...clear
and unequivocal in her denial of any "not nice" intent wasn't she
Pat?...ever ready to engage in vitriol free resolution from the
outset.....one only has to review the
lengths and depth to which she engaged in sincere consultation in the
'Why
you should Susan' thread to see her exemplify the teachings hey Pat?.
Arsehole. .
> She never called you "anti-faith";
She never used those words.
> you made that up;
I never said she used those words.
>and she never called you "enemy of the faith",
She never used those words.
> you've made that up, too.
I never said she used those words either.
"Now you're associating him w/ a faction" PK
The anti Faith faction? You saw her too!
> Do you derive some perverse satisfaction in making
>up lies to exaggerate how you've been maligned?
I'll let you know if I ever give it a try.
> >
> > This constitutes the third? fourth? occasion on which you have been
> > invited/challenged to stand by and substantiate your assertions...each
> > time you fire a snide shot and flee.
>
> Rod, I post the links where you make your allegations.
And I thank you for quoting me and confirming the accuracy of what
I have said all along.
> Today, I've even posted where you've acknowledged that your
> allegations were solely your inferences.
That's a bold lie. All you have attempted to do is assert that if
a clear inference or innuendo is employed rather that particular
'terms' then the meaning and intent that all (including you)
recognised
at the time is now in doubt because of lengthy pursuit of the issue.
> Nothing changes, though.
> So what's changed Pat?
>
"You have been hounding her, for months, just as Dusty hounded you.
That is
what has changed" PK
Your right Pat....nothing changes because of the length of pursuit of
the
issue.
> >
> > It might grant you some satisfaction....but it does not constitute an
> > argument of any merit.
> >
>
> The facts have no merit to you, because you can argue that somebody called
> you an enemy of the faith ... by branding you as
> anti-faith ... which they had not actually done ... but had intended to do
>... so they should substantiate your allegation.
Your own words of prior recognition betray your current lie-
"This is what happened at Beliefnet. It is not good" PK
You are welcome to try to filibuster/lie/backflip that your reference
to the "not good" basless anti faith allegations that happened at Bnet
was in reality a call to a chook raffle......but I believe that will
only
expose you further as a lying pissant.
> You're a jackass, Rod Wicks.
Pissant is staple diet of jackass.
> >
> > > When you label yourself
> > > an EoF, don't say "Susan said ...", claim it yourself, or quote the
> > >other party.
> >
> > Susans intent was clear to all, yourself included, you confirmed the
> > parallel
> > to the Bnut EofF allegations and you challenged Susans behaviour by
> > asking-
> > "Is this what we do to others".
>
> No doubt I was unhappy with what Susan had done,
A thousand words before you concede an obvious reality....but you just
can't muster the intestinal fortitude and basic decency to reiterate
what
it was that "Susan had done" that made you unhappy. What "Susan had
done" was clear to all....all you do is seek to obscure it.
>but your campaigning for hypocrite of the millenium, is another
matter.
What you think of my "campaign" or "hounding" or "jihad" or "pursuit"
or "righteous bust" or "endeavour to ensure Baha'is do not make
serious
false public allegations/innuendo" is a *MATTER* of ZERO relevance.
IT *CHANGES* NOTHING! And that's the backflipping point.
> You are the Baha'i on TRB who has labelled you as an Enemy of the Faith,
not
>Susan.
So it was her spelling that originally upset you? Go ahead....make my
day...put forward an alternate explanation for your discomfort with
the mysterious thing "Susan done".
> It stems from your own mind, though you have
> the gall to demand that Susan apologise for your imaginings.
I have never ever, not once, asked- suggested- expected or inferred
that
"Susan apologise". And you dare put this fantasy in the context of my
alleged imaginings. You cannot read, remember or represent what YOU
have said let alone what I have said.
> > When subsequently asked to explain
> > your backflip and denial of your recognition of Susans allegation you
> > advised that
> > it was my response to what she said that changed things.
> >
>
> I didn't backflip. I said you were a jackass about it last year,
> and I'm 100 per cent in agreement with my assessment of last
> year. Allow me to emphasise this for your benefit, lest you put words in
> my mouth.
God your a slimy piece of works.....the "backflip" related to your
clear
objection to Susans aligning me with the anti faith faction...not your
assessment of my "jackass" response to her allegation.
Half of what you cite refers to the psychic
assumptions/innuendo/allegations
of anti faith factional alignment "shoved in [my] face" by the Bnet
apologists. Further recognising/confirming that Susan was engaging in
"exactly the kind of crap".
> "My recollection was that Rod was less of a jackass over a year ago on
> B-Net, and
> then even less, two years or so, ago here. This crap about what 'you
believe',
> was very unusual for Rod, and exactly the kind of crap that got shoved in
his face
> at B-Net, a dialectic."
> - me, 21 January 2003
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1466907211d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&se
lm=3E2E0CB6.57E08529%40ameritel.net
>
> "You're a jackass, Rod Wicks."
> - Pat Kohli, today, January 2004
> (above)
>
> >
> > Susan clearly categorised me as an enemy of the faith,
>
> You lie, relentlessly and unapologetically. If there might be something
> lower than falsely accusing someone of being an enemy
> of the Baha'i Faith, it might be falsely accusing someone of accusing
> someone of being an enemy of the Baha'i Faith.
Or one could stoop to the depths of objecting to such an allegation
then pretending it never happened (while ignoring the next one from
Jerry J)......How low can a worm go?
> > you called her
> > out for
>
> I called her for bad manners, you jackass!
"Now you're associating him w/ a faction" PK The "bad manners" of
falsely aligning a Baha'i with an anti faith faction, Arsewipe.
> > it, I went after her for it and you turn round and say my hounding her
> > erases
> > the original allegation. Then you accuse me of starting fights and
> > impose killfile for challenging your change of tune.
> >
>
> I've said it then, and I say it now, what you did was wrong.
What you said then was that what Susan did was wrong and that I was
"less of a jackass" two years prior. Now you say everything changes
because I pursued Susan too long for what she did wrong.
> Tragically,you don't calm down and let up.
Oh....You mean like politely asking Susan to explain/clarify/justify
what she said without resorting to calling her "nasty, paranoid,
jackass"?
Your tribal bias bullshit is repugnant. You will stand by Susans shit.
You will stand by Joplins shit. You will tell me neither stink...and
that I should change my sox.
> You really should apologise for making up stuff and lying about it
> when you are confronted.
When you confront me with anything other than total reversal of
your previously stated position I will consider it.
> > Now you seek to assert that I labelled myself an enemy of the faith?
> >
> I told you that in September. Last year
You backflipped in September last year and I said so then
> I told you that you were reading her mind.
I told you that was a repugnant proposition and that I was reading
her post, and yours.
> Even you said in September that she didn't
> lable you an enemy of the faith in so many words, but accused you of being
> anti-faith,
That's right Kiddyfiddler, she did not use the words/terms "enemy of
the
faith".......how many times do we have to cover the same semantic
grounds?
> an accusation you'd already tried out
> against her in February,
I know of no (two) separate/independent allegations.
> where you announced that your accusation was
> based on _her_intention_.
No. I said her "intention" was clear and not dependent on the
use of explicit 'terms' such as EofF.
> This means you refused to
> substantiate where she had said what you said she said.
A false conclusion drawn from a false premise and a false account.
> > Don't piss down my back and try to tell me that it's raining Kohli.
> >
> Grow up!
You really think you can piss any higher?
> >
> > You played your hand during the Jerry Joplin Show.
> > You, Susan and the rest of the Baha'i apologists clearly don't give
> > a rats arse what kind of bullshit allegation one Baha'i publicly makes
> > in regard another's relation to their faith.
>
> There is a lot that goes on here,
And you have your finger on the pulse of all theological/historical
trivia and a blind eye to all serious community issues.
> but, if you follow me around,
I follow you nowhere blind man.
>and insist,
Insist what?
>and, after I've looked into it,
Looked into what?
> and told you what I saw,
In relation to what? Joplins allegation or Susans? In either case I
never "followed" you nor "insisted" on anything.
> and you still want to lie about my POV,
How is quoting you a lie?
>eh, sometimes you get challenged.
Sometimes you just make incomprehensible noise Koli....as above.
> > Any lie, any slander, any
> > viscous crap allegation goes...just as long as the perp is perceived
> > to
> > be one of yours and the recipient is a designated as non person enemy.
> >
>
> Is that it? Do you figure that Susan was not one of yours, but a non
> person enemy, so any lie you tell about her, is okey dokey?
Pat...That's about as sophisticated as the primary school- "Yea! I
know what 'you' are!...but what am I" .
I have already proved the Baha'i apologist tribal alliance
preparedness
to let any attack on a non person Baha'i go unchallenged....and I did
so
with the support of the thread links you provided.
> >
> > It's not the sociopaths who make the basless enemy of the faith
> > allegations
> > that offend me...it's the limp wristed wankers who stand back and
> > provide tacit
> > support by letting it transpire unchallenged.
> > Or worse, seeing it for what it is, then denying it ever happened.
> >
>
> Nothing tacit about your wankings; its the factual bases for your
> fantasies, where things get 'tacit.
Like Susan you have mastered the art of employing language to convey
no information. I put before you the reality of your preparedness to
cosset the likes of Joplin and you have nothing of substance to
contribute.
> In the future, when you decide that I've really accused you of being a
> cross-dressing alcoholic cannibal, rather than pointing
> out your hypocritical lies,
"Now you're associating him with a cross dresser, an alcoholic
cannibal, and
a hypocrite, and that is not nice. Do we do this with others? This is
what happened at Beliefnet. It is not good"
> please quote from this message.
When I'm finished rubbing your nose in your prior posts Kiddyfiddler.
> I find your inferences about what I've said, to be distorted, and
> decontextualized.
Perhaps you need to ad
Baldrick
Judgement at kohliCUT...@ameritel.net wrote on 5/3/04 2:55 am:
> As it happens, I went to Officer Candidate School, so, at least
> initially, my parents were married.
So you are trying to tell me the Officer Candidate School you attended
charged your parents $40, 000 to train you as an officer?
I thought those days were long gone when military commissions could be
purchased. That went out in the 19th century Britian when the upper
classes paid a bounty so their sons could have an officer's
commission.
When I joined the navy in the 50's as a kid of 15 I had to send my
Mother half of the pittance I earned of 32 shillings and sixpence a
week.
(About 12 bucks) I dare say the prisoners in Guantano Bay get more
than that for their pocket money today.
Baldrick
Paul Hammond
Yes, that's the one I was thinking of. The questions that
immediately led to this blind.
You said "show me where I castigated your book, or the
quality of your artwork", and he came up with this stuff
about you rubbishing the quality of his education, which
IIRC is something you said about two or three months ago,
and has nothing to do with proving that you have actually
said anything bad about his book, which we haven't
read, or his artwork, which we haven't seen.
I will admit to rubbishing the quality of his poetry, but
we *have* seen some of that around here, and apparently
only Cal thinks it is any good.
>or something from three days ago?
>
Was there another question he hadn't answered?
> Clearly he won't be getting a refund on his University Education.
>
Clearly. Probably the fact that he paid some people to
edit and publish his biography of Magennis has something
to do with this too.
Paul
Paul Hammond
> >I'm also glad to read that the environment in Northern Ireland is
> >supportive of retired sailors, and willing to give such men scholarships
> >to pursue visual arts. I wish the US were so generous.
>
> There is always the GI Bill.
>
Good call, Susan!
Splasher was only 1 hour behind you.
Baldrick
Hammond at paha...@onetel.net.uk wrote on 5/3/04 3:12 pm:
> Clearly. Probably the fact that he paid some people to
> edit and publish his biography of Magennis has something
> to do with this too.
Seeing you are both still fasinated by my research, for your
information, had my three year 100,000 word research for the Magennis
book been written on University campus, it would have qualified for a
PhD. I wouldn't even have had to get it published. The M/S would have
qualified on its own, as new modern historical research.
By the way it was all written by longhand as I did not have a computer
then. I paid two PhD typists from Queens University Belfast to type
the M/S up for me, long before It went to History Ireland for
publishing.
Baldrick
Paul Hammond
> Judgement at kohliCUT...@ameritel.net wrote on 5/3/04 2:55 am:
>
> >> Fred, Nima, Rod and many others can see right through Pat Kohli's
> >> gutless yellow backbone. Need I say more
> >
> > Your a fine one to call me gutless. When I stood up to your bullying
> > and accepted your challange to contact your NSA advising them of your
> > conduct, you were the one who complained.
>
> Who do you think you are Capt-Bahai-Hawkeye Kohli? Did you not know
> you breached Bahai law for a start.
I'm sure you can spam the US NSA about it, like you did before.
The Baha'is are always on the look out for drunk former-members
to teach them their own faith!
Paul
Baldrick
at paha...@onetel.net.uk wrote on 5/3/04 3:15 pm:
It seems Capt Hawkeye Kohli has been behind all the time if he didn't
use the GI bill to help further his education after he left the US
Army.
Thats his loss, so he cant go around being critical of his country for
not being generous can he? Baldrick
--
Baldrick
Hammond at paha...@onetel.net.uk wrote on 5/3/04 3:40 pm:
Well you would know seeing half the time your pissed out of your bonce
down at that pub you work in. I seldom known many barman who never
ended up piss artists unless they go teetotal.
So you are nearly there. Ill give you to your 40.
Baldrick
Cal E. Rollins
Not to worry about Baha'is putting your achievements and talent down.
That just seems to be a Baha'i trait. Most of the Baha'is I know are so
uncreative and untalented that they can't appreciate others' unless
they've received something like a Nobel Prize that the Faith can claim
credit for inspiring. Just wait and see my characterizations realized
when we come awake to the rebirth of Dr. Alain Locke as an important
figure in Western thinking among the black intelligensia as well as
others. We'll tout him as the greatest thinker around (which he was, of
course) but I bet we'll bury his being gay in the depths of the archives
under holy seal. --Cal
Cal E. Rollins
You should come to America for an education. Here when you're smart and
poor your education is just about assured, because of all the financial
assistant you can get. My friend from Thailand used to get really angry
at white and black Americans who complained about not being able to go
to school when they did nothing to research and apply for all the
scholarships, grants, and loans available to them.
Part of my job was to make minorities aware of what finances were out
there for them educationwise. Rich whites here like to make folk feel
they're ripping off the Government by taking advantage of opportunities
that they have cornered by way of tax loopholes, government incentives,
etc. My best friend was a millionaire who did that until he lost his
fortune in good-timing and bad investments. When he faced the
possibility of becoming a bagman, he not only became anti-Republican but
has gone so far as to champion the poor and has the gall to call me a
super-conservative.
It sounds like to me George was using his good sense in getting his
education. I applaud him as I have done my other friends and my kids,
too. --Cal
Susan Maneck
>Not to worry about Baha'is putting your achievements and talent down.
>That just seems to be a Baha'i trait.
Uh, Cal, it is non-Baha'is who were putting his artistic talents down.
Dermod Ryder
"Susan Maneck " <sma...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040305190603...@mb-m21.aol.com...
> >
> >Not to worry about Baha'is putting your achievements and talent down.
> >That just seems to be a Baha'i trait.
>
> Uh, Cal, it is non-Baha'is who were putting his artistic talents down.
And Bahais who were extolling it: - he never tires of citing that obscure
Bahai publication that gushed over his artwork.
Dermod Ryder
> of Northern Ireland.
Never mind what he thinks! As a staunch anti-BIGS, it's more important to
know what you think. Don't you think it's great that the Lord High Reaper
terrorised the local BIGS for twenty years before you came on the scene and
they all fell about laughing?
> Does the great Bahai protector AO mole MoHamHead support him?
>
> We should all be told
Ah! But do you deserve to be told? What exactly have you achieved as a
staunch anti-BIGS warrior?
Dermod Ryder
>
> I'm also glad to read that the environment in Northern Ireland is
> supportive of retired sailors, and willing to give such men scholarships
> to pursue visual arts. I wish the US were so generous.
Indeed yes! Much is done here to keep unemployed sailors off the streets!
A most laudable aspect of the Welfare State!
When it comes to parents of disabled kids however, that's an entirely
different story - a shower of wasters who do nothing whatsoever for society!
Dermod Ryder
> Mother half of the pittance I earned of 32 shillings and sixpence a
> week.
>
> (About 12 bucks)
Nowhere near 12 bucks, Baldie! In 1945 the exchange rate was about $4 to
£1. In 1965 it was $2.80 to £1 and was devalued after that to $2.40 to £1.
So it works out at about $6 - $4.60 over that 20 year span.
I asume that mathematics and English were NOT subjects that you studied at
any length at any time in your life.
> I dare say the prisoners in Guantano Bay get more
> than that for their pocket money today.
If I knew where it was I'd ask them ... at least if there is such a place
and somebody is holding prisoners there.
Paul Hammond
> Hammond at paha...@onetel.net.uk wrote on 5/3/04 3:12 pm:
>
> > Clearly. Probably the fact that he paid some people to
> > edit and publish his biography of Magennis has something
> > to do with this too.
>
Do you mean that the typists were PhDs, or do you mean
that they were typists whose phone numbers appeared on
the list of contacts for students who need to find
a typist to help them produce their theses?
Paul
Paul Hammond
> in article c977f97b.04030...@posting.google.com, Paul
> Hammond at paha...@onetel.net.uk wrote on 5/3/04 3:40 pm:
>
> > baldri...@yahoo.co.uk (Baldrick) wrote in message
> > news:<9b91a665.04030...@posting.google.com>...
> >> in article c28pm8$1q0k5t$1...@ID-75487.news.uni-berlin.de, Mr. Bad
> >> Judgement at kohliCUT...@ameritel.net wrote on 5/3/04 2:55
> am:
> >>
> >>>> Fred, Nima, Rod and many others can see right through Pat Kohli's
> >>>> gutless yellow backbone. Need I say more
> >>>
> >>> Your a fine one to call me gutless. When I stood up to your
> bullying
> >>> and accepted your challange to contact your NSA advising them of
> your
> >>> conduct, you were the one who complained.
> >>
> >> Who do you think you are Capt-Bahai-Hawkeye Kohli? Did you not
> know
> >> you breached Bahai law for a start.
> >
> > I'm sure you can spam the US NSA about it, like you did before.
> >
> > The Baha'is are always on the look out for drunk former-members
> > to teach them their own faith!
>
> Well you would know seeing half the time your pissed out of your bonce
> down at that pub you work in. I seldom known many barman who never
> ended up piss artists unless they go teetotal.
>
You don't listen, do you. I don't drink while at work,
and I don't drink much after work, seeing as how I'm
going to drive home after, 'twouldn't be wise.
On days that I'm not working, I enjoy a pint or two,
but alcohol is not necessary to my life.
While I was considering declaring, I went without for
over a year at a time, while going to weekly meetings
that were held in a pub.
> So you are nearly there. Ill give you to your 40.
>
(sic) - it's "I'll give you until you're 40".
I don't think you can possibly understand a non-addictive
personality like my own, seeing as how you don't
have one.
Don't let your jealousy show through so obviously
George!
Paul
Baldrick
at m...@privacy.net wrote on 6/3/04 3:48 am:
Just to remember Yuk Yuk, MoHamHead and Capt Hawkeye that ole Baldrick
can not only read and write. but knowledge about his creative activies
and writing skills circulates amongst royalty and certain VIPs through
the corridors of Parliament and eleswhere.
Thats the 2nd edition of the UK External affairs magazine. Far from
being obscure its handed out to members of parliament and the there is
a photo in it on the opposite page to the article written about me, of
Barney Leith hob nobbing with the Queen's hubby the Duke of Edinburgh
at an opening of a memorial evening to remember Shoghi Effendi's wife.
Baldrick
Baldrick
at m...@privacy.net wrote on 6/3/04 4:19 am:
>
> "Baldrick" <baldri...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:9b91a665.04030...@posting.google.com...
>> So what do you think about your buddy Dermod terrorising the
baha'is
>> of Northern Ireland.
>
> Never mind what he thinks! As a staunch anti-BIGS, it's more important to
> know what you think. Don't you think it's great that the Lord High Reaper
> terrorised the local BIGS for twenty years before you came on the scene and
> they all fell about laughing?
>
>> Does the great Bahai protector AO mole MoHamHead support him?
>>
>> We should all be told
>
> Ah! But do you deserve to be told? What exactly have you achieved as a
> staunch anti-BIGS warrior?
Terrorising individual local BIGS in Northern ireland and challenging
Bahaism come under two complete headings in my book.
No 1) The former uses fear, cultural religious bigotry, intimidation,
and the threat of violence to impose ones views upon others.
No 2) The latter involves, objective challenges, debates and
discussions on a level playing field against a religious or non
religious, political or apolitical ideology you disagree with.
You prefer the former which in my book defeats the purpose because its
turns you into a worse scenario than what you set out against in the
beginning.
I prefer No 2) the latter approach.
The problems on TRB is that any objective challenge, debate and
discussion on a level playing field is prevented by
No 3) BIGS who have successfully developed a deceitful filibuster
system called "The Bahai technique"
The Bahai Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel, Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat,
Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite, Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear,
Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully, Intimidate, Threaten, Malign,
Blackball,Deceive, Coerce, Silence, Harass... etc., etc
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Scapegoat.htm
No 4) To help them work this system and at the same time keep up a
squeaky clean image of themselves, like Susan Maneck and Pat Kohli
always try to do they use others (ex-baha'is, non Baha'is and
undercover Baha'is) still friendly to their cause to take sides in
flame wars between other ex-baha'is. The object is to turn this
(Single) unmoderated newsgroup open to the public domain into flame
group so as to keep as many non-Baha'is away as possible.
Terrorising individual local BIGS here in Norn ireland and challenging
Bahaism come under two complete headings in my book.
No 1) The former uses fear, cultural religious bigotry, intimidation,
and the threat of violence to impose ones views upon others.
No 2) The latter involves, objective challenges, debates and
discussions on a level playing field against a religious or non
religious, political or apolitical ideology you disagree with.
You prefer the former which in my book defeats the purpose because its
turns you into a worse scenario than what you set out against in the
beginning.
I prefer No 2) the latter approach.
The problems on TRB is that any objective challenge, debate and
discussion on a level playing field is prevented by
No 3) BIGS who have successfully developed a deceitful filibuster
system called "The Bahai technique"
The Bahai Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel, Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat,
Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite, Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear,
Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully, Intimidate, Threaten, Malign,
Blackball,Deceive, Coerce, Silence, Harass... etc., etc
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Scapegoat.htm
No 4) To help them work this system to prevent debate on a level
playing feild, and at the same time keep up a squeaky clean image of
themselves, like Susan Maneck and Pat Kohli always try to do, they use
others (ex-baha'is, non Baha'is and undercover Baha'is) still friendly
to their cause to take sides in flame wars between other ex-baha'is.
The object is to turn this (Single) unmoderated newsgroup open to the
public domain into flame group so as to keep as many interested
non-Baha'is away as possible.
No 5) There have been many others who helped these BIGS, but two of
the worst offenders, culprits, mugs fallguys call us what you like
who have helped the BIGS achieve their goal are none other than you
and I.
I rest my case.
Baldrick
Baldrick
Hammond at paha...@onetel.net.uk wrote on 6/3/04 5:59 am:
>> Well you would know seeing half the time your pissed out of your
bonce
>> down at that pub you work in. I seldom known many barman who never
>> ended up piss artists unless they go teetotal.
>>
>
> You don't listen, do you.
Trying to steal the Pig Queen's pet phrase?
Baldrick
Paul Hammond
> at m...@privacy.net wrote on 6/3/04 3:48 am:
>
> >
> > "Susan Maneck " <sma...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20040305190603...@mb-m21.aol.com...
> >>>
> >>> Not to worry about Baha'is putting your achievements and talent
> down.
> >>> That just seems to be a Baha'i trait.
> >>
> >> Uh, Cal, it is non-Baha'is who were putting his artistic talents
> down.
> >
> > And Bahais who were extolling it: - he never tires of citing that obscure
> > Bahai publication that gushed over his artwork.
>
> Just to remember Yuk Yuk, MoHamHead and Capt Hawkeye that ole Baldrick
> can not only read and write. but knowledge about his creative activies
> and writing skills circulates amongst royalty and certain VIPs through
> the corridors of Parliament and eleswhere.
>
Wow! I'm really impressed!
> Thats the 2nd edition of the UK External affairs magazine. Far from
> being obscure its handed out to members of parliament and the there is
> a photo in it on the opposite page to the article written about me, of
> Barney Leith hob nobbing with the Queen's hubby the Duke of Edinburgh
> at an opening of a memorial evening to remember Shoghi Effendi's wife.
>
Shall we send Barney Leith some of the comments you were
making about him during your campaign to piss all over
Dr Kelly's grave?
Baldrick
Hammond at paha...@onetel.net.uk wrote on 6/3/04 5:05 pm:
> Shall we send Barney Leith some of the comments you were
> making about him during your campaign to piss all over
> Dr Kelly's grave?
Please do with my compliments, Barney Leith and his team of
selfrigheous NSA members were quick enough to order me off TRB ARB &
SCI because fundamentalist Maneck and Kohli snitched on me over posts
sent to these newsgroups. Yet Barney got up in the Hutton inquiry and
told untruths over what happened at the meeting with 30 Bahais on
October 2002 at Rodger Kingdon's home to protect the AO and Bahai Dr
Kelly who was responsible for helping to compile the september dossier
that sent the UK to war with Iraq.
Roger Kingdon versus Barney Leith's Account
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Kelly100502.htm
EVIDENCE grows... Dr. David Kelly & the Baha'i Faith
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Kelly.htm
Baldrick
Mr. Bad Judgement
Paul Hammond wrote:
(snip)
>
> Was there another question he hadn't answered?
>
I'm tempted to copy a long laugh and paste it right here.
>
>>Clearly he won't be getting a refund on his University Education.
>>
>
>
> Clearly. Probably the fact that he paid some people to
> edit and publish his biography of Magennis has something
> to do with this too.
>
They were doctors of typography or typology, but typing doctors all the
same. I'd think doctors of editing would be out of his price range.
Besides that, having editing doctgors edit the manuscript would be
re-writing what George wrote and there is nothing wrong with George's
writing in his manuscript. That is why he's thrown the book at us!
- Mr. Bad
Mr. Bad Judgement
Paul Hammond wrote:
It is a pathetic example of how they government treats veterans. A few
years after WWI, there was a great hue and cry about veterans benefits
in the US. The benefits were changed, becoming more generous, and the
bulk of a whole generation of people got entitlements from WWII and
Korean war service. They got mortgage insurance to buy homes, loans to
start businesses, and education beenfits. It was a tremendous boon for
our society. When I went to college, there was an older undergrad who'd
been drafted, and served a term in the military and was using his
veterans benefits to go to school. On the down side, the medical
benefits have been on a 'last resort' variety, underfunded on the one
hand, and avoided by those who have alternatives, on the other hand.
In the late 1970s, someone in the government decided they could pinch
pennies by paring back the expensive aspects of the GI Bill. There were
some changes, and as it stands now, if a service member wants to qualify
for education benefits as a veteran, he has to deposit a hundred dollars
a month during his first year of military service. As most of you know,
a person's first year of service is when they have the lowest rank, and
will be least able to afford a hundred dollars a month. Compared to how
things had been, it is a cynical slap in the face to the servicemember
and veteran.
Here is the category One eligibility, which would pertain to someone
joining the US Armed Forces today.
* Entered active duty for the first time after June 30, 1985
* Had military pay reduced by $100 a month for first 12 months
* Continuously served for 3 years, OR 2 years if that is what you
first enlisted for, OR 2 years if you
entered Selected Reserve within a year of leaving active duty and
served 4 years ("2 by 4" Program)
http://www.gibill.va.gov/education/C30.htm
As I understand things in most western European countries, someone can
qualify for financial aid for university by simply meeting the academic
eligibility requirements. This would make veteran's education benefits
completely redundant.
- Mr. Bad
Mr. Bad Judgement
Paul Hammond wrote:
> baldri...@yahoo.co.uk (Baldrick) wrote in message news:<9b91a665.04030...@posting.google.com>...
>
>>in article c28pm8$1q0k5t$1...@ID-75487.news.uni-berlin.de, Mr. Bad
>>Judgement at kohliCUT...@ameritel.net wrote on 5/3/04 2:55 am:
>>
>>
>>>>Fred, Nima, Rod and many others can see right through Pat Kohli's
>>>>gutless yellow backbone. Need I say more
>>>
>>>Your a fine one to call me gutless. When I stood up to your bullying
>>>and accepted your challange to contact your NSA advising them of your
>>>conduct, you were the one who complained.
>>
>>
>>Who do you think you are Capt-Bahai-Hawkeye Kohli? Did you not know
>>you breached Bahai law for a start.
>
I plead ignorance, George, I had no idea it was a breach of Baha'i law
to take you at your word.
<< Why dont you report me to my NSA or the ABM one dissident has
<< already done so. He will provide you with the number willingly.
<< So what are you waiting for. Put your money were your mouth is.
<<
<< The answer you will probally get is, "Why are you subscribing
<< to such a group in support of these anti- Baha'i bigots who are
<< continiously attacking our Faith in the first place Mr Pat
<< Kohli"?
<<
<< I hope you have a good answer for them.
<<
<< I have a good mind to report you to the UHJ for your support of
<< Dermod Ryder and his anti Baha'i bigoted friends. What do you
<< say to that?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl4070458860d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=B9B859F4.AB6C%25george.fleming2%40btinternet.com
- Mr. Bad
Baldrick
Judgement at kohliCUT...@ameritel.net wrote on 6/3/04 7:29 pm:
>
> I plead ignorance, George, I had no idea it was a breach of Baha'i law
> to take you at your word.
So you just go ahead and breach Baha'i Laws because another member
dared you to. Tell us all on TRB Pat Kohli would you jump off the
Empire State building if George Fleming dared you to do it?
If you dont believe me ask your NSA is it ok for you to just go ahead
whenever it suited you to write to other NSA's in the world reporting
those members who dared you report their behaviour on the internet?
As an LSA member today Pat kohli what answer do you think the US NSA
would give you?
Baldrick
Susan Maneck
>> I paid two PhD typists from Queens University Belfast.
>
Gee, PhDs sure have it tough in the UK!
Cal E. Rollins
Apparently some of your bozos don't seem to know that in the good ol'
days you had to pay a professional typist to type your PhD
dissertation--usually the original with four carbon copies ($1 a page at
one point). I went through that with two feverish friends getting
theirs into their committees' hands and later onto the shelves. I
marveled at the ease my daughter had in writing hers because she could
do everything on the computer herself. All she needed help on was
statistical analysis from a statistician who could program everything
into the system. Times do seem to have changed. --Cal
Susan Maneck
>days you had to pay a professional typist to type your PhD
>dissertation--usually the original with four carbon copies ($1 a page at
>one point).
Oh, I did that with my master's thesis which was written B.C. (before
computers.) But that isn't what was said.