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Peter Terpstra

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Jun 14, 2013, 4:00:56 AM6/14/13

Hong Kong Groups Plan Protest to Support Edward Snowden
By Bloomberg News - Jun 13, 2013 11:15 AM GMT+0200

Hong Kong civic groups plan a protest against any U.S. efforts to extradite Edward Snowden, the former National Security Agency
contractor who has admitted revealing a secret U.S. electronic surveillance program.

At least 14 groups, including the Civil Human Rights Front and the League of Social Democrats, will demonstrate June 15 at the U.S.
consulate in Hong Kong and the city government’s headquarters in support of Snowden, who is in the city at an undisclosed location.

“We ask the U.S. government not to seek extradition of Snowden because he isn’t an offender,” said Leung Kwok-hung, a Hong Kong
lawmaker and chairman of the League of Social Democrats. “He was speaking from his conscience.”

Snowden’s disclosures to the U.K.’s Guardian and the Washington Post about the NSA’s collection of telephone and Internet data --
revealed last week -- have sparked both lawmaker calls for his prosecution and a debate about the extent of government spying on
citizens. Hong Kong has an extradition agreement with the U.S., and Snowden may have breached the city’s laws if he passed on
secrets since his arrival, according to Simon Young, a law professor at the University of Hong Kong.

“It might be possible that any surveillance activities that took place in Hong Kong arose as a result of information provided confidentially
by the Chinese or Hong Kong governments,” Young said in an e-mail. It’s an offense to make such a “damaging disclosure,” Young said.
Criminal Investigation

In an interview with the South China Morning Post, Snowden said the U.S. had been hacking computers in Hong Kong and mainland China
since 2009. He said the U.S. is “bullying” Hong Kong to extradite him.

Snowden’s disclosures have triggered a criminal investigation by the U.S. Justice Department, calls for the surveillance to be limited, and
a lawsuit accusing the government of violating the privacy and free-speech rights of its citizens.

U.S. House Speaker John Boehner called Snowden a traitor whose disclosure put Americans at risk. “It shows our adversaries what our
capabilities are,” Boehner said on ABC News’s “Good Morning America.”

The protesters backing Snowden on June 15 will call on the Hong Kong government to “respect international legal standards” and
condemn the U.S. government for violating rights and privacy, according to a statement on the organizers’ website.
Double Standards

Speaking at a briefing today, China Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying called for more dialogue and talks on cybersecurity. In
response to a question about Snowden’s accusations of U.S. hacking, Hua said: “The adoption of double standards will bring no benefit
to the settlement of the relevant issue.”

The U.S. government may want to adjust its counter-terrorism policies so that intrusions on individual rights “are not as expansive,”
the English-language China Daily newspaper said in an editorial today.

“Whether Snowden should be praised or condemned, the ongoing public debate sparked by his leaks is worthwhile if it can help both the
American people and the U.S. government find a better balance between public safety and individuals’ right to privacy,” the editorial
said.

The incident “seriously discredits” the U.S. over previous claims about human rights, privacy and due process, Lee Kai-Fu, the former
head of Google Inc.’s China division, said in a phone interview. Lee, who has 43.9 million Weibo followers, wrote a microblog post on
June 11 saying he admires Snowden’s “principles and values.”
Confidence Crisis

“Most discussion on Weibo is ‘Wow, you are are not really different from the others,’” Lee, now chairman and chief executive officer of
Innovation Works, said of the U.S. in the interview. “It’s potentially a massive confidence crisis.”

Lee was banned from Weibo for three days in February after speaking out on topics ranging from Beijing’s air pollution to a censorship
battle at a Chinese newspaper in January, to presidential politics in Taiwan.

Snowden, 29, was a former technical assistant for the Central Intelligence Agency and had worked for the National Security Agency in
the past four years for contractors including Booz Allen Hamilton Holding Corp. (BAH), according to the Guardian and the Washington
Post. Booz Allen, his most recent employer, said June 11 that Snowden has been fired.
Extradition Request

Hong Kong will deal with any extradition request based on its own legal system, Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying said in a Bloomberg
Television interview in New York. He declined to comment on specific cases.

Snowden’s revelations weakened the U.S. and European governments’ “moral force” in calling for Internet freedom in China, Hong
Kong-based Chinese-language newspaper Apple Daily wrote in an editorial.

U.S. officials have accused the Chinese government of being behind a series of hacker attacks designed to steal trade secrets and
potentially disable computers that operate banks, power grids and telecommunications systems.

At a summit in California last week, President Barack Obama made clear to Chinese President Xi Jinping that resolving the issue is “key
to U.S.-China relations,” White House national security adviser Tom Donilon said.

In its own editorial, the South China Morning Post said it was debatable whether the U.S. surveillance programs are “more defensible
than China’s state-sponsored hacking activities.”

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Lama Dashi I T I GILOV, BURYATIA , MONGOLIA

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Jun 14, 2013, 8:49:20 AM6/14/13

Good for Hong Kong

if Hong Kongese REALLY care for a White political
refugee

> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-13/hong-kong-groups-plan-protes...

rst9

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Jun 14, 2013, 10:09:48 AM6/14/13

I told you many times to fuck off here but you still hang here for what?
When you have 116 usernames, it shows that you have questionable past to
escape from your reality or with police in Cambodia. So get fuck off here
and don't associate with posters here. They won't answer to stupid poster
with 116 usernames.

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Good for Hong Kong

if Hong Kongese REALLY care for a White political
refugee

On Jun 14, 3:00 pm, Peter Terpstra <peter.terpst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hong Kong Groups Plan Protest to Support Edward Snowden
> By Bloomberg News - Jun 13, 2013 11:15 AM GMT+0200
>
> Hong Kong civic groups plan a protest against any U.S. efforts to
> extradite Edward Snowden, the former National Security Agency
> contractor who has admitted revealing a secret U.S. electronic
> surveillance program.
>
> At least 14 groups, including the Civil Human Rights Front and the League
> of Social Democrats, will demonstrate June 15 at the U.S.

> consulate in Hong Kong and the city governmentï¿½s headquarters in support

> of Snowden, who is in the city at an undisclosed location.
>

> ï¿½We ask the U.S. government not to seek extradition of Snowden because he
> isnï¿½t an offender,ï¿½ said Leung Kwok-hung, a Hong Kong
> lawmaker and chairman of the League of Social Democrats. ï¿½He was speaking
> from his conscience.ï¿½
>
> Snowdenï¿½s disclosures to the U.K.ï¿½s Guardian and the Washington Post about
> the NSAï¿½s collection of telephone and Internet data --

> revealed last week -- have sparked both lawmaker calls for his prosecution
> and a debate about the extent of government spying on
> citizens. Hong Kong has an extradition agreement with the U.S., and

> Snowden may have breached the cityï¿½s laws if he passed on

> secrets since his arrival, according to Simon Young, a law professor at
> the University of Hong Kong.
>

> ï¿½It might be possible that any surveillance activities that took place in

> Hong Kong arose as a result of information provided confidentially

> by the Chinese or Hong Kong governments,ï¿½ Young said in an e-mail. Itï¿½s an
> offense to make such a ï¿½damaging disclosure,ï¿½ Young said.

> Criminal Investigation
>
> In an interview with the South China Morning Post, Snowden said the U.S.
> had been hacking computers in Hong Kong and mainland China

> since 2009. He said the U.S. is ï¿½bullyingï¿½ Hong Kong to extradite him.
>
> Snowdenï¿½s disclosures have triggered a criminal investigation by the U.S.

> Justice Department, calls for the surveillance to be limited, and
> a lawsuit accusing the government of violating the privacy and free-speech
> rights of its citizens.
>
> U.S. House Speaker John Boehner called Snowden a traitor whose disclosure

> put Americans at risk. ï¿½It shows our adversaries what our
> capabilities are,ï¿½ Boehner said on ABC Newsï¿½s ï¿½Good Morning America.ï¿½

>
> The protesters backing Snowden on June 15 will call on the Hong Kong

> government to ï¿½respect international legal standardsï¿½ and

> condemn the U.S. government for violating rights and privacy, according to

> a statement on the organizersï¿½ website.

> Double Standards
>
> Speaking at a briefing today, China Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua
> Chunying called for more dialogue and talks on cybersecurity. In

> response to a question about Snowdenï¿½s accusations of U.S. hacking, Hua
> said: ï¿½The adoption of double standards will bring no benefit
> to the settlement of the relevant issue.ï¿½

>
> The U.S. government may want to adjust its counter-terrorism policies so

> that intrusions on individual rights ï¿½are not as expansive,ï¿½

> the English-language China Daily newspaper said in an editorial today.
>

> ï¿½Whether Snowden should be praised or condemned, the ongoing public debate

> sparked by his leaks is worthwhile if it can help both the
> American people and the U.S. government find a better balance between

> public safety and individualsï¿½ right to privacy,ï¿½ the editorial
> said.
>
> The incident ï¿½seriously discreditsï¿½ the U.S. over previous claims about

> human rights, privacy and due process, Lee Kai-Fu, the former

> head of Google Inc.ï¿½s China division, said in a phone interview. Lee, who

> has 43.9 million Weibo followers, wrote a microblog post on

> June 11 saying he admires Snowdenï¿½s ï¿½principles and values.ï¿½
> Confidence Crisis
>
> ï¿½Most discussion on Weibo is ï¿½Wow, you are are not really different from
> the others,ï¿½ï¿½ Lee, now chairman and chief executive officer of
> Innovation Works, said of the U.S. in the interview. ï¿½Itï¿½s potentially a
> massive confidence crisis.ï¿½

>
> Lee was banned from Weibo for three days in February after speaking out on

> topics ranging from Beijingï¿½s air pollution to a censorship

> battle at a Chinese newspaper in January, to presidential politics in
> Taiwan.
>
> Snowden, 29, was a former technical assistant for the Central Intelligence
> Agency and had worked for the National Security Agency in
> the past four years for contractors including Booz Allen Hamilton Holding
> Corp. (BAH), according to the Guardian and the Washington
> Post. Booz Allen, his most recent employer, said June 11 that Snowden has
> been fired.
> Extradition Request
>
> Hong Kong will deal with any extradition request based on its own legal
> system, Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying said in a Bloomberg
> Television interview in New York. He declined to comment on specific
> cases.
>

> Snowdenï¿½s revelations weakened the U.S. and European governmentsï¿½ ï¿½moral
> forceï¿½ in calling for Internet freedom in China, Hong

> Kong-based Chinese-language newspaper Apple Daily wrote in an editorial.
>
> U.S. officials have accused the Chinese government of being behind a
> series of hacker attacks designed to steal trade secrets and
> potentially disable computers that operate banks, power grids and
> telecommunications systems.
>
> At a summit in California last week, President Barack Obama made clear to

> Chinese President Xi Jinping that resolving the issue is ï¿½key
> to U.S.-China relations,ï¿½ White House national security adviser Tom

> Donilon said.
>
> In its own editorial, the South China Morning Post said it was debatable

> whether the U.S. surveillance programs are ï¿½more defensible
> than Chinaï¿½s state-sponsored hacking activities.ï¿½

Peter Terpstra

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Jun 14, 2013, 4:52:22 PM6/14/13

rst9 wrote:

> I told you many times to fuck off here but you still hang here for what?

Maybe you can be the first one to show some kindness?

Love, Peter

Dr. Arunny - head of public hosptial downtown Cambodia

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Jun 15, 2013, 3:12:59 AM6/15/13

Just a while a go, I received an email on you. I had told you several times
to come down to downtown hospital in Cambodia to check your self-talking and
self-replying psychiatrist disorders that have disgraced yourself as
Cambodian and Cambodia - Dr. Arunny - head of public hospital.

"Lama Dashi I T I GILOV, BURYATIA , MONGOLIA" wrote in message
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> consulate in Hong Kong and the city governmentï¿½s headquarters in support

> of Snowden, who is in the city at an undisclosed location.
>

> Snowdenï¿½s disclosures to the U.K.ï¿½s Guardian and the Washington Post about
> the NSAï¿½s collection of telephone and Internet data --

> Snowden may have breached the cityï¿½s laws if he passed on

> secrets since his arrival, according to Simon Young, a law professor at
> the University of Hong Kong.
>

> ï¿½It might be possible that any surveillance activities that took place in

> Hong Kong arose as a result of information provided confidentially

> by the Chinese or Hong Kong governments,ï¿½ Young said in an e-mail. Itï¿½s an
> offense to make such a ï¿½damaging disclosure,ï¿½ Young said.

> Criminal Investigation
>
> In an interview with the South China Morning Post, Snowden said the U.S.
> had been hacking computers in Hong Kong and mainland China

> since 2009. He said the U.S. is ï¿½bullyingï¿½ Hong Kong to extradite him.
>
> Snowdenï¿½s disclosures have triggered a criminal investigation by the U.S.

> put Americans at risk. ï¿½It shows our adversaries what our
> capabilities are,ï¿½ Boehner said on ABC Newsï¿½s ï¿½Good Morning America.ï¿½
>

> The protesters backing Snowden on June 15 will call on the Hong Kong