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Peter Terpstra
Nov 13, 2012, 5:38:02 AM11/13/12
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Pray for my daughter to be reborn in independent Tibet: Self-immolator’s father
Phayul [Tuesday, November 13, 2012 14:39]
DHARAMSHALA, November 13: Father of Tibetan self-immolator, Tamding Tso, who passed away in her fiery protest last week, has made
an emotional appeal, requesting people to pray for his daughter to be reborn in an independent Tibet in her next life.
“I request you all to pray that may my daughter be reborn in an independent Tibet and hear and see His Holiness the Dalai Lama in her
next life,” Tamding Kyab said in a conversation with a group of local Tibetans who had come to offer their last respects.
Earlier reports had indicated that a large number of Tibetans had visited Tamding Tso’s home to pay their condolences and show their
solidarity.
Kyab said his daughter was “always concerned about Tibet’s situation” and clearly stated that her self-immolation protest was for the
“cause of Tibet and not for any family reasons.”
“What triggered her self-immolation,” according to Kyab, was when both father and daughter went to the nearby Dowa town a month
ago and “saw Chinese government posters reiterating the ban on pictures of the Dalai Lama and calling on Tibetans to publicly protest
separatist forces and their activities.”
Kyab said his daughter was “visibly angered” and very saddened to see those posters, and recollected telling him: “Father, this is the sad
destiny of Tibetan people. We can’t even keep and pray before the picture of our spiritual leader His Holiness the Dalai Lama.”
A copy of the notice obtained by the Central Tibetan Administration reads, “the government imposes complete ban on keeping photos of
His Holiness the Dalai Lama” and pledges to “maintain unity of the motherland and fight against the Dalai group’s separatist activities.”
Tamding Tso, 23, mother of a seven-year-old son, later set herself on fire near the Ghe Mar thang in Dowa town at around 5.30 pm
(local time) on November 7 shouting, “His Holiness the Dalai Lama must come to Tibet.”
Before leaving her home that day, Kyab said Tamding Tso cleaned the house, offered prayers in front of His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s
portrait and took petrol from their motorbike.
“When I came to know about my daughter’s self-immolation protest, it felt as if my heart was pulled out of my chest,” Kyab said. “She
was my favourite and most beloved daughter. I never raised even a finger on her since she was born.”
However, the aggrieved father said his daughter’s decision was for the larger Tibetan cause and for the wish to see the return of the His
Holiness the Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama on their thrones.
“So, I think it is of no use to ponder over anything else than to respect her decision and sacrifice,” Kyab added. “Therefore, I appeal to
all of you to remain united and work together to fulfil her goals and aspirations.”
Following Tamding Tso’ self-immolation protest, eight more Tibetans have set themselves on fire inside Tibet, taking the toll to 72, since
the wave of fiery protests began in 2009.
The Letter:
http://www.phayul.com/images/news/articles/121113024302N5.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/bc24jja
--
A beautiful song from Tibet
I miss Dalai Lama
http://youtu.be/_zo3kYvJr38
Phayul [Tuesday, November 13, 2012 14:39]
DHARAMSHALA, November 13: Father of Tibetan self-immolator, Tamding Tso, who passed away in her fiery protest last week, has made
an emotional appeal, requesting people to pray for his daughter to be reborn in an independent Tibet in her next life.
“I request you all to pray that may my daughter be reborn in an independent Tibet and hear and see His Holiness the Dalai Lama in her
next life,” Tamding Kyab said in a conversation with a group of local Tibetans who had come to offer their last respects.
Earlier reports had indicated that a large number of Tibetans had visited Tamding Tso’s home to pay their condolences and show their
solidarity.
Kyab said his daughter was “always concerned about Tibet’s situation” and clearly stated that her self-immolation protest was for the
“cause of Tibet and not for any family reasons.”
“What triggered her self-immolation,” according to Kyab, was when both father and daughter went to the nearby Dowa town a month
ago and “saw Chinese government posters reiterating the ban on pictures of the Dalai Lama and calling on Tibetans to publicly protest
separatist forces and their activities.”
Kyab said his daughter was “visibly angered” and very saddened to see those posters, and recollected telling him: “Father, this is the sad
destiny of Tibetan people. We can’t even keep and pray before the picture of our spiritual leader His Holiness the Dalai Lama.”
A copy of the notice obtained by the Central Tibetan Administration reads, “the government imposes complete ban on keeping photos of
His Holiness the Dalai Lama” and pledges to “maintain unity of the motherland and fight against the Dalai group’s separatist activities.”
Tamding Tso, 23, mother of a seven-year-old son, later set herself on fire near the Ghe Mar thang in Dowa town at around 5.30 pm
(local time) on November 7 shouting, “His Holiness the Dalai Lama must come to Tibet.”
Before leaving her home that day, Kyab said Tamding Tso cleaned the house, offered prayers in front of His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s
portrait and took petrol from their motorbike.
“When I came to know about my daughter’s self-immolation protest, it felt as if my heart was pulled out of my chest,” Kyab said. “She
was my favourite and most beloved daughter. I never raised even a finger on her since she was born.”
However, the aggrieved father said his daughter’s decision was for the larger Tibetan cause and for the wish to see the return of the His
Holiness the Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama on their thrones.
“So, I think it is of no use to ponder over anything else than to respect her decision and sacrifice,” Kyab added. “Therefore, I appeal to
all of you to remain united and work together to fulfil her goals and aspirations.”
Following Tamding Tso’ self-immolation protest, eight more Tibetans have set themselves on fire inside Tibet, taking the toll to 72, since
the wave of fiery protests began in 2009.
The Letter:
http://www.phayul.com/images/news/articles/121113024302N5.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/bc24jja
--
A beautiful song from Tibet
I miss Dalai Lama
http://youtu.be/_zo3kYvJr38
lo yeeOn
Nov 13, 2012, 6:23:31 PM11/13/12
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In article <1761688.NBjzIIAMDz@Dharma>,
wants and his sycophants have echoed thus only a "genuine" autonomy
under Chinese sovereignty. So this poor man has died for naught!
It's so sad that Da Lama's followers are so ignorant! They don't
realize that Da Lama has been playing them like a bunch of yo-yos!
They don't realize that Da Lama does not have their interests at
heart. They don't realize that Da Lama is doing things only to make
his paymasters in the West happy.
According to Peter "Hard-Yards" Terpstra's story, the woman who
committed the grisly seppuku (hara-kiri), errrh, reincarnated as the
more iconic self-immolation, did so after having seen government
posters forbidding the display of Da Lama's photos and was visibly
angered by it.
To her, the announcment meant that she could not "pray before the
picture". So, she killed herself.
I see that she had an anger management problem. If Da Lama wants to
know why, the reason has been laid bare.
The headstrong woman, her father who never even so much as having
raised a finger at her, and those she interacted with have taught her
the wrong idea about living and values in general. It is hardly the
first time in history that the portrait of a certain personage was
forbidden from public display. If you have to pray before Da Lama in
order to retain your faith, then you have got the wrong set of genes.
According to Darwin, those who possess the genes would not survive in
the world which only accommodates the fittest.
According to "Hard-Yards",
Da Lama has lectured the public saying:
"...a calm mind is very>important for a peaceful and happy life.
Physical and material comfort doesn't necessarily guarantee 100%
happiness".
His Holiness also said that neuroscientists in America has found out
through an experiment that after practising compassion, stress and
blood pressures of people are reduced. So, a healthy mind is very
crucial for a healthy body.
Da Lama ought to offer his "compassion" practice secret to his
followers to help them reduce their stress and blood pressures.
Da Lama should value the health of his followers more than anyone else
as they seem to care more about his ten thousand year longevity rather
than their own short mortal lives. He should particularly care if he
wants to have one-sixth of China's current territory for his "genuine"
Tibetan autonomy when the able-minded/able-bodied Tibetans to take
charge of a state are already few and far in between.
So who does Da Lama think will be capable enough to pick up the task
of managing a state, however he wants to call it, if he got his wish
for a "genuine" autonomous Tibet in the end? Does he think that a
bunch of illiterates who are easy to anger followed by suicide will be
able to manage a power generation and distribution authority and a
transportation authority. Or is Da Lama thinking that he can hire a
bunch of American contractors to manage his "genuinely autonomous"
Tibet for him. Does he realize that although the Tibetan monks and
monasteries are heavily subsidized by the Chinese government right
now, he would have to find another way to get the money to feed those
consuming but not producing monks and monasteries? Does Da Lama think
that those easy to anger and violence followers wouldn't get angry
with him in the end when the Chinese were out of the picture?
The truth is Da Lama doesn't care because he knows that he isn't going
to live for ten thousands of years and all he wants to do now is to
make his western paymasters happy, and no more!
The truth is the longer those ignorant followers of Da Lama have him,
the longer and the more they suffer!
lo yeeOn
Subject: Da Lama wants dialog (with China) while hobnobbing with
Japan's extremists - remember Yukio Mishima and his ilk and their
seppuku rituals - think self-immolations for Da Lama's ignorant
extremist followers - Da Lama has a credibility gap!
In article <2401128.rsoJvLfEtR@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>Dialogue is only realistic way to solve problems, says His Holiness
>November 12, 2012 9:48 am
>
>OKINAWA: Departing from the sea front hotel amidst a slight morning
>drizzle, His Holiness visited the Konpacto and Bodaiju (Bodhi tree
>park) at Okinawa Island in Japan. About 150 people came to the park for
>the event.
>
>His Holiness planted a tree sapling at the park and wrote a message of
>peace to the younger generations of Okinawan people.
>
>In the message His Holiness wrote, “No good result will come out from
>violence. Violence is not the correct way to solve your problems
>and pursue your needs. The realistic way to solve problems is through
>dialogue”.
>
>His Holiness then visited the Himeyuri stupa and war museum. The
>Himeyuri stupa and war museum is dedicated to the hundreds of
>Japanese teachers and students who were posted at Okinawa Island as
>nurses during the second world war. More than 227 young girls
>died during that operation.
>
>In the afternoon, His Holiness gave a public talk on ‘The strength to
>overcome difficulties’ at the Kenritsu Budo hall. The talk was
>organised by Dr Nagamunei and group. More than 5,000 people came to
>attend the talk.
>
>Addressing the public, His Holiness said “a calm mind is very
>important for a peaceful and happy life. Physical and material comfort
>doesn’t necessarily guarantee 100% happiness”.
>
>His Holiness also said that neuroscientists in America has found out
>through an experiment that after practising compassion, stress and
>blood pressures of people are reduced. So, a healthy mind is very
>crucial for a healthy body.
Da Lama should offer his advice, seriously, to his followers in those
monasteries where self-immolations have been repeatedly committed.
Note that seppuku, errrh, self-immolation, is a depraved form of
violence.
Da Lama should have offered his "compassion" recipe to those 15/16
year-olds and 18 year-olds who allegedly have committed seppuku, errrh, I
mean self-immolation, so that they could have had a way to reduce
whatever stress they had and hence their blood pressures. Had he done
that, those young lives would mostly be still living and breathing!
No, instead Da Lama did all he could to raise their stress by telling
the world that the Chinese government's policy of using the Chinese
language as the medium of teaching and learning was tantamount to
cultural genocide. Da Lama actively encouraged kids to become truant.
Instead of helping to establish guidelines and suicide-prevention
network, the kind of work Da Lama should be ready to offer as a form
of charity, especially when he charges western celebrities or exotic
faith seekers a lot of money for his advice, he has been sitting on
his fat ass and pointing a finger at the Chinese government, the party
he and his TGIE (Tibetan Government in Exile) have alternately begged
and screamed at to negotiate for a form of "genuine" autonomy for
Tibet under Chinese sovereignty.
By making virulent accusations at the party you purportedly want to
negotiate with, you make meaningful negotiation impossible. And so
you stall the negotiation and exacerbate the suffering of your
followers who have hung their hope on your leadership and dimplomacy.
And by obscuring how China's sovereignty over Tibet should interact
with your idea of a "genuine" autonomy, you have made your negotiating
position impossible to decipher and settlement impossible to reach.
Meanwhile, you go to Japan for 12 days, clearly with the intention to
coincide your presence in Japan with the Chinese leadership transfer
that has been taking place in Beijing. And you volunteered yourself
to talk about the islands hotly disputed between China and Japan.
How do you think the injection of yourself into the debate of those
islands help you further your TGIE representative's position vis-a-vis
the autonomy talk with China according to your "Middle Way"?
So as you watched the 15/16 year-olds among your followers commit
seppuku, errrh, self-immolation, for your own aggrandizement, you
did not tell them that you had no intention to negotiate with the
Chinese government to ease their pain, unless China would hand over
one sixth of its territory to you. But did those 15/16 year old
children know that one sixth of China's terroritory was your aim,
instead of their chance to grow up being well-educated and empowered
to have a better life for themselves and their loved ones? No, they
certainly did not know that. Da Lama, you deceived them. You are
responsible for these grisly ritual child-sacrifices for your own
glory and your western paymaster's hegemonic agenda.
You know why you have an audience in Japan. There is a rightist group
which consists of Japanese, like the late Yukio Mishima and his fellow
believers and followers, who believe in taking Japan back to its vile
militarist past. Mishima, although a great writer of stories, spent
years, and many hours daily to build up a state of great anger that
could sustain the physical agaony of seppuku.
As Mishima and his fellow extreme rightists committed their seppuku,
they shouted the return of Imperial Japan where the emperor would be
revered as god. Da Lama, what is the difference between the Japanese
extremists who committed seppuku while shouting for the return of an
Imperial Japan and those extremist followers of yours who committed
self-immolation to give the TGIE an iconic Tibet is burning message
while they shouted for your return to Tibet and live for another ten
thousand years?
I see none, they are both extremist acts calling for a return of the
equivalent of the Dark Ages for both peoples.
In fact, when you claim you want to negotiate with the Chinese
government for a "genuine" autonomy, you shouldn't be injecting
yourself among the Japanese rightists who want Japan to claim the
islands all Chinese, whether they live in Hong Kong, or Taiwan, or
Mainland China, think are historically theirs, the islands they call
Diaoyu Tai Islands. There are at least three things all Chinese have
in common: they think that Diaoyu Tai Islands are Chinese territory,
not Japanese; they all have very bad memories of Japan's occupation of
China's northeast and later its full-blown invasion of China 1937-1945;
and Tibet has always been a part of China. By hobnobbing with Japan's
rightists, you go contrary to your claim to want to negotiate a
"genuine" autonomy for Tibet under Chinese sovereignty.
By hobnobbing with the Japanese rightists, you will further lose your
credibility in a billion Chinese eyes. No matter what you say, you
will only strengthen the Chinese government's credibility at the same
time. So, you have a lot of explaining to do before your followers,
unless you think they are just idiots worthy of your contempt!
Da Lama, if you are compassionate, you would immediately start your
compassion practice in Tibet by broadcasting your suicide-prevention
guidelines and help network and implore adult monks to give daily
lessons on the vice of killing oneself. Give them your recipe for
reducing stress and blood pressure. Da Lama, you should start act
like a spiritual healer, instead of a self-serving agent for the West.
You should at once redeem yourself for the destruction of those young
lives by stopping further such acts.
lo yeeOn
---------------------------------------------------------------------
By GILLIAN WONG Associated Press
BEIJING November 12, 2012 (AP)
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/china-slams-dalai-lama-tibetan-immolates-17697568#.UKFkDsjyb-Q
China accused the Dalai Lama on Monday of allying with Japanese
right-wingers in an island dispute as a way of attacking China and
blamed him for glorifying a wave of self-immolations among
Tibetans. The comments came as another Tibetan set himself on fire to
protest Chinese rule, Tibetan exiles and a rights group said.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said the Dalai Lama's
comments in Japan on the island dispute showed his "reactionary
nature" and determination to split China apart under the guise of
religion.
"To achieve his separatist goal, he associated with the Japanese
right-wing forces. Chinese people despise him for what he did. We
are firmly opposed to any country's providing a stage for him," Hong
said.
Chinese media have said the Dalai Lama called the islands by their
Japanese name during a news conference in Yokohama last Monday but an
Associated Press review of a tape of the event showed he referred to
them only as "the islands."
On Monday in Okinawa, the Dalai Lama criticized Chinese media for
making up a claim that he sided with the Japanese.
Tensions have run high over the islands, known as Senkaku in Japanese
and Diaoyu in Chinese, since the Japanese government nationalized some
of them in September in a bid to prevent Tokyo's right-wing governor
from buying them. Violent anti-Japanese protests broke out in a number
of Chinese cities, and Beijing has sent ships to conduct near-constant
patrols near the uninhabited rocks.
Hong also attacked the Dalai Lama for reportedly accusing the Chinese
government of failing to investigate the root cause of despair and
hopelessness among Tibetans that many say have prompted people to take
their lives as a form of protest. China has long accused the Dalai
Lama and his supporters of inspiring such acts, despite his
condemnation of all forms of violence.
"Not only did the Dalai not condemn them, but he actually glorified
these acts, which are against the national law and religious
principles," Hong said.
The remarks came as a 24-year-old Tibetan man set himself on fire at a
prayer ceremony in Tongren county in western China's Qinghai province,
becoming the seventh person in six days to self-immolate in the
region, the rights group Free Tibet said.
Nyingkar Tashi is reported to have died in the protest in which he
called out for freedom in Tibet and for the longevity of the Dalai
Lama, the group said. A statement from the self-declared Tibetan
government-in-exile in Dharmsala, India, provided similar details.
A Tongren government official who picked up the phone said he could
not comment, while Ma Chunyin, head of the Tongren Communist Party
Propaganda Department, said he did not know about the reported
self-immolation.
Tibet support groups overseas have said the increase in protests in
recent days is meant to highlight Tibetan unhappiness with Chinese
rule as the country's leaders hand over power to younger successors at
a party congress in Beijing.
"Throughout the 18th Party Congress the new unelected leaders have
been reminded on an almost daily basis of Tibetans' rejection of
Chinese rule, and of the terrible failure of policies to cement the
occupation," Free Tibet Director Stephanie Brigden said.
The Dalai Lama fled to India following an abortive 1959 uprising
against Chinese rule over Tibet. He denies seeking the region's
independence, saying that he wishes Tibetans to enjoy real autonomy
and protection of their traditional culture Buddhist
Associated Press writers Christopher Bodeen in Beijing and Mari
Yamaguchi in Tokyo contributed to this report..
---------
12 November 2012 Last updated at 07:48 ET
China warns Dalai Lama on Tibet immolations comments
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-20293887
China has criticised Tibet's spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, over
comments he reportedly made on a spate of self-immolations by ethnic
Tibetans.
Speaking in Japan, the Dalai Lama was quoted saying China was not
"seriously" looking at the causes of the protests and focusing on
blaming him instead.
China's foreign ministry accused him of "glorifying" the
self-immolations.
Nearly 70 Tibetans have set themselves alight since 2011 in what
activists say are protests against Beijing's rule.
Most are reported to have died. State media reported another
self-immolation on Saturday, bringing to seven the number in the past
week.
Gonpo Tsering, 18, set himself alight near a monastery in Hezou city
in Gansu province, Xinhua news agency reported
Beijing says Tibetans have religious freedom and accuses exiled
Tibetan leaders of stirring up unrest.
The latest incidents have taken place as China's Communist Party holds
a congress in Beijing that will begin the process of transferring
power to a new generation of leaders.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman, Hong Lei, said: "Not only did the
Dalai not condemn them, but he actually glorified these acts, which
are against the national law and religious principles."
He also accused the Dalai Lama of siding with right-wingers in Japan
over a tense territorial dispute with China.
The Dalai Lama, who is on a visit to Japan, had used the Japanese name
for an island chain claimed by both Beijing and Tokyo, Mr Hong said.
On the subject of self-immolations, the exiled spiritual leader had
reportedly urged the Chinese government to investigate their cause.
"China does not look into it seriously and tries to end [the
incidents] only by criticising me," Kyodo news agency quoted him as
saying.
Foreign media are banned from the Tibet region, making the
self-immolation cases hard to verify.
Chinese state media have confirmed some of the self-immolations, but
not all.
>
>Speaking about the war-torn historical background of Okinawa island, His
>Holiness said, “Past is only a memory, an experience. We
>cannot change it. But the future depends on the present. And using the
>experience of the past, we have to build a peaceful and happier
>world”.
>
>At the same time, His Holiness mentioned that the method to achieve
>happiness should be realistic.
>
>“We have to look from various angles. One dimensional outlook is not
>enough. The method to attain peace should be realistic and
>holistic,” His Holiness said.
>
>“Fear, anger, jealousy, hatred, distrust; these negative emotion comes
>from the basis of self-centric arrogance. We have to train our
>mind to develop more compassion. Once we develop a sense of well-being
>for others, we develop a calm mind,” His Holiness added.
>
>His Holiness also stressed the need for secular moral ethics through a
>modern secular education.
>
>“Secularism means respect to all religious traditions including
>non-believers. Secular ethics promotes common interests on the basis of
>mutual respect and mutual harmony”, His Holiness said.
>
>A question and answer session was held after the talk.
>
>Tomorrow His Holiness will give a group interview to Okinawa TV and
>Ryukyu Shimpo newspaper. He will then leave for Tokyo where he
>will give a public talk on balancing the body and mind and will meet
>political leaders from various political parties of Japan.
>
>http://tibet.net/2012/11/12/dialogue-is-only-realistic-way-to-solve-problems-says-his-holiness/
>Following Tamding Tso's self-immolation protest, eight more Tibetans
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>Pray for my daughter to be reborn in independent Tibet:
>Self-immolator’s father
>Phayul [Tuesday, November 13, 2012 14:39]
>
>DHARAMSHALA, November 13: Father of Tibetan self-immolator, Tamding Tso,
>who passed away in her fiery protest last week, has made
>an emotional appeal, requesting people to pray for his daughter to be
>reborn in an independent Tibet in her next life.
It is so stupid! Da Lama doesn't want an "independent" Tibet. He
>Pray for my daughter to be reborn in independent Tibet:
>Self-immolator’s father
>Phayul [Tuesday, November 13, 2012 14:39]
>
>DHARAMSHALA, November 13: Father of Tibetan self-immolator, Tamding Tso,
>who passed away in her fiery protest last week, has made
>an emotional appeal, requesting people to pray for his daughter to be
>reborn in an independent Tibet in her next life.
wants and his sycophants have echoed thus only a "genuine" autonomy
under Chinese sovereignty. So this poor man has died for naught!
It's so sad that Da Lama's followers are so ignorant! They don't
realize that Da Lama has been playing them like a bunch of yo-yos!
They don't realize that Da Lama does not have their interests at
heart. They don't realize that Da Lama is doing things only to make
his paymasters in the West happy.
According to Peter "Hard-Yards" Terpstra's story, the woman who
committed the grisly seppuku (hara-kiri), errrh, reincarnated as the
more iconic self-immolation, did so after having seen government
posters forbidding the display of Da Lama's photos and was visibly
angered by it.
To her, the announcment meant that she could not "pray before the
picture". So, she killed herself.
I see that she had an anger management problem. If Da Lama wants to
know why, the reason has been laid bare.
The headstrong woman, her father who never even so much as having
raised a finger at her, and those she interacted with have taught her
the wrong idea about living and values in general. It is hardly the
first time in history that the portrait of a certain personage was
forbidden from public display. If you have to pray before Da Lama in
order to retain your faith, then you have got the wrong set of genes.
According to Darwin, those who possess the genes would not survive in
the world which only accommodates the fittest.
According to "Hard-Yards",
Da Lama has lectured the public saying:
"...a calm mind is very>important for a peaceful and happy life.
Physical and material comfort doesn't necessarily guarantee 100%
happiness".
His Holiness also said that neuroscientists in America has found out
through an experiment that after practising compassion, stress and
blood pressures of people are reduced. So, a healthy mind is very
crucial for a healthy body.
Da Lama ought to offer his "compassion" practice secret to his
followers to help them reduce their stress and blood pressures.
Da Lama should value the health of his followers more than anyone else
as they seem to care more about his ten thousand year longevity rather
than their own short mortal lives. He should particularly care if he
wants to have one-sixth of China's current territory for his "genuine"
Tibetan autonomy when the able-minded/able-bodied Tibetans to take
charge of a state are already few and far in between.
So who does Da Lama think will be capable enough to pick up the task
of managing a state, however he wants to call it, if he got his wish
for a "genuine" autonomous Tibet in the end? Does he think that a
bunch of illiterates who are easy to anger followed by suicide will be
able to manage a power generation and distribution authority and a
transportation authority. Or is Da Lama thinking that he can hire a
bunch of American contractors to manage his "genuinely autonomous"
Tibet for him. Does he realize that although the Tibetan monks and
monasteries are heavily subsidized by the Chinese government right
now, he would have to find another way to get the money to feed those
consuming but not producing monks and monasteries? Does Da Lama think
that those easy to anger and violence followers wouldn't get angry
with him in the end when the Chinese were out of the picture?
The truth is Da Lama doesn't care because he knows that he isn't going
to live for ten thousands of years and all he wants to do now is to
make his western paymasters happy, and no more!
The truth is the longer those ignorant followers of Da Lama have him,
the longer and the more they suffer!
lo yeeOn
Japan's extremists - remember Yukio Mishima and his ilk and their
seppuku rituals - think self-immolations for Da Lama's ignorant
extremist followers - Da Lama has a credibility gap!
In article <2401128.rsoJvLfEtR@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>Dialogue is only realistic way to solve problems, says His Holiness
>November 12, 2012 9:48 am
>
>OKINAWA: Departing from the sea front hotel amidst a slight morning
>drizzle, His Holiness visited the Konpacto and Bodaiju (Bodhi tree
>park) at Okinawa Island in Japan. About 150 people came to the park for
>the event.
>
>His Holiness planted a tree sapling at the park and wrote a message of
>peace to the younger generations of Okinawan people.
>
>In the message His Holiness wrote, “No good result will come out from
>violence. Violence is not the correct way to solve your problems
>and pursue your needs. The realistic way to solve problems is through
>dialogue”.
>
>His Holiness then visited the Himeyuri stupa and war museum. The
>Himeyuri stupa and war museum is dedicated to the hundreds of
>Japanese teachers and students who were posted at Okinawa Island as
>nurses during the second world war. More than 227 young girls
>died during that operation.
>
>In the afternoon, His Holiness gave a public talk on ‘The strength to
>overcome difficulties’ at the Kenritsu Budo hall. The talk was
>organised by Dr Nagamunei and group. More than 5,000 people came to
>attend the talk.
>
>Addressing the public, His Holiness said “a calm mind is very
>important for a peaceful and happy life. Physical and material comfort
>doesn’t necessarily guarantee 100% happiness”.
>
>His Holiness also said that neuroscientists in America has found out
>through an experiment that after practising compassion, stress and
>blood pressures of people are reduced. So, a healthy mind is very
>crucial for a healthy body.
Da Lama should offer his advice, seriously, to his followers in those
monasteries where self-immolations have been repeatedly committed.
Note that seppuku, errrh, self-immolation, is a depraved form of
violence.
Da Lama should have offered his "compassion" recipe to those 15/16
year-olds and 18 year-olds who allegedly have committed seppuku, errrh, I
mean self-immolation, so that they could have had a way to reduce
whatever stress they had and hence their blood pressures. Had he done
that, those young lives would mostly be still living and breathing!
No, instead Da Lama did all he could to raise their stress by telling
the world that the Chinese government's policy of using the Chinese
language as the medium of teaching and learning was tantamount to
cultural genocide. Da Lama actively encouraged kids to become truant.
Instead of helping to establish guidelines and suicide-prevention
network, the kind of work Da Lama should be ready to offer as a form
of charity, especially when he charges western celebrities or exotic
faith seekers a lot of money for his advice, he has been sitting on
his fat ass and pointing a finger at the Chinese government, the party
he and his TGIE (Tibetan Government in Exile) have alternately begged
and screamed at to negotiate for a form of "genuine" autonomy for
Tibet under Chinese sovereignty.
By making virulent accusations at the party you purportedly want to
negotiate with, you make meaningful negotiation impossible. And so
you stall the negotiation and exacerbate the suffering of your
followers who have hung their hope on your leadership and dimplomacy.
And by obscuring how China's sovereignty over Tibet should interact
with your idea of a "genuine" autonomy, you have made your negotiating
position impossible to decipher and settlement impossible to reach.
Meanwhile, you go to Japan for 12 days, clearly with the intention to
coincide your presence in Japan with the Chinese leadership transfer
that has been taking place in Beijing. And you volunteered yourself
to talk about the islands hotly disputed between China and Japan.
How do you think the injection of yourself into the debate of those
islands help you further your TGIE representative's position vis-a-vis
the autonomy talk with China according to your "Middle Way"?
So as you watched the 15/16 year-olds among your followers commit
seppuku, errrh, self-immolation, for your own aggrandizement, you
did not tell them that you had no intention to negotiate with the
Chinese government to ease their pain, unless China would hand over
one sixth of its territory to you. But did those 15/16 year old
children know that one sixth of China's terroritory was your aim,
instead of their chance to grow up being well-educated and empowered
to have a better life for themselves and their loved ones? No, they
certainly did not know that. Da Lama, you deceived them. You are
responsible for these grisly ritual child-sacrifices for your own
glory and your western paymaster's hegemonic agenda.
You know why you have an audience in Japan. There is a rightist group
which consists of Japanese, like the late Yukio Mishima and his fellow
believers and followers, who believe in taking Japan back to its vile
militarist past. Mishima, although a great writer of stories, spent
years, and many hours daily to build up a state of great anger that
could sustain the physical agaony of seppuku.
As Mishima and his fellow extreme rightists committed their seppuku,
they shouted the return of Imperial Japan where the emperor would be
revered as god. Da Lama, what is the difference between the Japanese
extremists who committed seppuku while shouting for the return of an
Imperial Japan and those extremist followers of yours who committed
self-immolation to give the TGIE an iconic Tibet is burning message
while they shouted for your return to Tibet and live for another ten
thousand years?
I see none, they are both extremist acts calling for a return of the
equivalent of the Dark Ages for both peoples.
In fact, when you claim you want to negotiate with the Chinese
government for a "genuine" autonomy, you shouldn't be injecting
yourself among the Japanese rightists who want Japan to claim the
islands all Chinese, whether they live in Hong Kong, or Taiwan, or
Mainland China, think are historically theirs, the islands they call
Diaoyu Tai Islands. There are at least three things all Chinese have
in common: they think that Diaoyu Tai Islands are Chinese territory,
not Japanese; they all have very bad memories of Japan's occupation of
China's northeast and later its full-blown invasion of China 1937-1945;
and Tibet has always been a part of China. By hobnobbing with Japan's
rightists, you go contrary to your claim to want to negotiate a
"genuine" autonomy for Tibet under Chinese sovereignty.
By hobnobbing with the Japanese rightists, you will further lose your
credibility in a billion Chinese eyes. No matter what you say, you
will only strengthen the Chinese government's credibility at the same
time. So, you have a lot of explaining to do before your followers,
unless you think they are just idiots worthy of your contempt!
Da Lama, if you are compassionate, you would immediately start your
compassion practice in Tibet by broadcasting your suicide-prevention
guidelines and help network and implore adult monks to give daily
lessons on the vice of killing oneself. Give them your recipe for
reducing stress and blood pressure. Da Lama, you should start act
like a spiritual healer, instead of a self-serving agent for the West.
You should at once redeem yourself for the destruction of those young
lives by stopping further such acts.
lo yeeOn
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By GILLIAN WONG Associated Press
BEIJING November 12, 2012 (AP)
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/china-slams-dalai-lama-tibetan-immolates-17697568#.UKFkDsjyb-Q
China accused the Dalai Lama on Monday of allying with Japanese
right-wingers in an island dispute as a way of attacking China and
blamed him for glorifying a wave of self-immolations among
Tibetans. The comments came as another Tibetan set himself on fire to
protest Chinese rule, Tibetan exiles and a rights group said.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said the Dalai Lama's
comments in Japan on the island dispute showed his "reactionary
nature" and determination to split China apart under the guise of
religion.
"To achieve his separatist goal, he associated with the Japanese
right-wing forces. Chinese people despise him for what he did. We
are firmly opposed to any country's providing a stage for him," Hong
said.
Chinese media have said the Dalai Lama called the islands by their
Japanese name during a news conference in Yokohama last Monday but an
Associated Press review of a tape of the event showed he referred to
them only as "the islands."
On Monday in Okinawa, the Dalai Lama criticized Chinese media for
making up a claim that he sided with the Japanese.
Tensions have run high over the islands, known as Senkaku in Japanese
and Diaoyu in Chinese, since the Japanese government nationalized some
of them in September in a bid to prevent Tokyo's right-wing governor
from buying them. Violent anti-Japanese protests broke out in a number
of Chinese cities, and Beijing has sent ships to conduct near-constant
patrols near the uninhabited rocks.
Hong also attacked the Dalai Lama for reportedly accusing the Chinese
government of failing to investigate the root cause of despair and
hopelessness among Tibetans that many say have prompted people to take
their lives as a form of protest. China has long accused the Dalai
Lama and his supporters of inspiring such acts, despite his
condemnation of all forms of violence.
"Not only did the Dalai not condemn them, but he actually glorified
these acts, which are against the national law and religious
principles," Hong said.
The remarks came as a 24-year-old Tibetan man set himself on fire at a
prayer ceremony in Tongren county in western China's Qinghai province,
becoming the seventh person in six days to self-immolate in the
region, the rights group Free Tibet said.
Nyingkar Tashi is reported to have died in the protest in which he
called out for freedom in Tibet and for the longevity of the Dalai
Lama, the group said. A statement from the self-declared Tibetan
government-in-exile in Dharmsala, India, provided similar details.
A Tongren government official who picked up the phone said he could
not comment, while Ma Chunyin, head of the Tongren Communist Party
Propaganda Department, said he did not know about the reported
self-immolation.
Tibet support groups overseas have said the increase in protests in
recent days is meant to highlight Tibetan unhappiness with Chinese
rule as the country's leaders hand over power to younger successors at
a party congress in Beijing.
"Throughout the 18th Party Congress the new unelected leaders have
been reminded on an almost daily basis of Tibetans' rejection of
Chinese rule, and of the terrible failure of policies to cement the
occupation," Free Tibet Director Stephanie Brigden said.
The Dalai Lama fled to India following an abortive 1959 uprising
against Chinese rule over Tibet. He denies seeking the region's
independence, saying that he wishes Tibetans to enjoy real autonomy
and protection of their traditional culture Buddhist
Associated Press writers Christopher Bodeen in Beijing and Mari
Yamaguchi in Tokyo contributed to this report..
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12 November 2012 Last updated at 07:48 ET
China warns Dalai Lama on Tibet immolations comments
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-20293887
China has criticised Tibet's spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, over
comments he reportedly made on a spate of self-immolations by ethnic
Tibetans.
Speaking in Japan, the Dalai Lama was quoted saying China was not
"seriously" looking at the causes of the protests and focusing on
blaming him instead.
China's foreign ministry accused him of "glorifying" the
self-immolations.
Nearly 70 Tibetans have set themselves alight since 2011 in what
activists say are protests against Beijing's rule.
Most are reported to have died. State media reported another
self-immolation on Saturday, bringing to seven the number in the past
week.
Gonpo Tsering, 18, set himself alight near a monastery in Hezou city
in Gansu province, Xinhua news agency reported
Beijing says Tibetans have religious freedom and accuses exiled
Tibetan leaders of stirring up unrest.
The latest incidents have taken place as China's Communist Party holds
a congress in Beijing that will begin the process of transferring
power to a new generation of leaders.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman, Hong Lei, said: "Not only did the
Dalai not condemn them, but he actually glorified these acts, which
are against the national law and religious principles."
He also accused the Dalai Lama of siding with right-wingers in Japan
over a tense territorial dispute with China.
The Dalai Lama, who is on a visit to Japan, had used the Japanese name
for an island chain claimed by both Beijing and Tokyo, Mr Hong said.
On the subject of self-immolations, the exiled spiritual leader had
reportedly urged the Chinese government to investigate their cause.
"China does not look into it seriously and tries to end [the
incidents] only by criticising me," Kyodo news agency quoted him as
saying.
Foreign media are banned from the Tibet region, making the
self-immolation cases hard to verify.
Chinese state media have confirmed some of the self-immolations, but
not all.
>
>Speaking about the war-torn historical background of Okinawa island, His
>Holiness said, “Past is only a memory, an experience. We
>cannot change it. But the future depends on the present. And using the
>experience of the past, we have to build a peaceful and happier
>world”.
>
>At the same time, His Holiness mentioned that the method to achieve
>happiness should be realistic.
>
>“We have to look from various angles. One dimensional outlook is not
>enough. The method to attain peace should be realistic and
>holistic,” His Holiness said.
>
>“Fear, anger, jealousy, hatred, distrust; these negative emotion comes
>from the basis of self-centric arrogance. We have to train our
>mind to develop more compassion. Once we develop a sense of well-being
>for others, we develop a calm mind,” His Holiness added.
>
>His Holiness also stressed the need for secular moral ethics through a
>modern secular education.
>
>“Secularism means respect to all religious traditions including
>non-believers. Secular ethics promotes common interests on the basis of
>mutual respect and mutual harmony”, His Holiness said.
>
>A question and answer session was held after the talk.
>
>Tomorrow His Holiness will give a group interview to Okinawa TV and
>Ryukyu Shimpo newspaper. He will then leave for Tokyo where he
>will give a public talk on balancing the body and mind and will meet
>political leaders from various political parties of Japan.
>
>http://tibet.net/2012/11/12/dialogue-is-only-realistic-way-to-solve-problems-says-his-holiness/
>Following Tamding Tso's self-immolation protest, eight more Tibetans
lo yeeOn
Nov 13, 2012, 10:54:01 PM11/13/12
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>Pray for my daughter to be reborn in independent Tibet:
>Self-immolator’s father
>Phayul [Tuesday, November 13, 2012 14:39]
>
>DHARAMSHALA, November 13: Father of Tibetan self-immolator, Tamding Tso,
>who passed away in her fiery protest last week, has made
>an emotional appeal, requesting people to pray for his daughter to be
>reborn in an independent Tibet in her next life.
>Self-immolator’s father
>Phayul [Tuesday, November 13, 2012 14:39]
>
>DHARAMSHALA, November 13: Father of Tibetan self-immolator, Tamding Tso,
>who passed away in her fiery protest last week, has made
>an emotional appeal, requesting people to pray for his daughter to be
>reborn in an independent Tibet in her next life.
It is so stupid! Da Lama doesn't want an "independent" Tibet. He
wants and his sycophants have echoed thus only a "genuine" autonomy
under Chinese sovereignty. So this poor man has died for naught!
It's so sad that Da Lama's followers are so ignorant! They don't
realize that Da Lama has been playing them like a bunch of yo-yos!
They don't realize that Da Lama does not have their interests at
heart. They don't realize that Da Lama is doing things only to make
his paymasters in the West happy.
According to Peter "Hard-Yards" Terpstra's story, the woman who
committed the grisly seppuku (hara-kiri), errrh, reincarnated as the
more iconic self-immolation, did so after having seen government
posters forbidding the display of Da Lama's photos and was visibly
angered by it.
To her, the announcment meant that she could not "pray before the
picture". So, she killed herself.
I see that she had an anger management problem. If Da Lama wants to
know why, the reason has been laid bare.
The headstrong woman, her father who never disciplined her in her
wants and his sycophants have echoed thus only a "genuine" autonomy
under Chinese sovereignty. So this poor man has died for naught!
It's so sad that Da Lama's followers are so ignorant! They don't
realize that Da Lama has been playing them like a bunch of yo-yos!
They don't realize that Da Lama does not have their interests at
heart. They don't realize that Da Lama is doing things only to make
his paymasters in the West happy.
According to Peter "Hard-Yards" Terpstra's story, the woman who
committed the grisly seppuku (hara-kiri), errrh, reincarnated as the
more iconic self-immolation, did so after having seen government
posters forbidding the display of Da Lama's photos and was visibly
angered by it.
To her, the announcment meant that she could not "pray before the
picture". So, she killed herself.
I see that she had an anger management problem. If Da Lama wants to
know why, the reason has been laid bare.
entire life - not even so much as having raised a finger at her by his
own admission - and those whom she interacted with have all been
taught the wrong ideas about living and values in general. It is
Or is Da Lama thinking that he can hire a bunch of American
Does he realize that although the Tibetan monks and monasteries are
heavily subsidized by the Chinese government right now, he would have
to find another way to get the money to feed those consuming but not
producing monks and monasteries?
his won't also be angry and violent with him in the end if the Chinese
are out of the picture?
The truth is Da Lama doesn't care because he knows that he isn't going
to live for ten thousands of years and all he wants to do now is to
make his western paymasters happy, and no more!
The truth is the longer those ignorant followers of Da Lama have him,
the longer and the more they suffer!
lo yeeOn
>
Peter Terpstra
Nov 14, 2012, 12:24:34 PM11/14/12
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lo yeeOn wrote:
> Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as
> he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction
> recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people.
Hahahaha :-)
Love, Peter
> Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as
> he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction
> recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people.
Hahahaha :-)
Love, Peter
lo yeeOn
Nov 15, 2012, 2:06:26 AM11/15/12
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over to Japan, perform all kinds of frivolous ceremonies for his hosts
and even offer stress reduction advice to them while Da Lama's own
"people" were left behind in Tibet and also Dharamsala agonizing over
his absence. So much so that even 15 or 16 year olds who have never
seen Da Lama in their tender lives were allegedly so freaked out as to
have committed the ritual seppuku, errrh, Da Lama's preferred version
of ritual suicide by fire that is kind of equivalent to the Japanese
grisly seppuku, at least according to the TGIE's own sources.
I think there must have been some kind of unforgivable abuse in the
idea of reincarnation over there in Da Lama land. I am pretty sure
that the original Buddha did not receive an epiphany that told him to
tell his disciples that you have reincarnation for free, no more what
you have done to your own sacred life. I mean, life is so sacred that
when you ritualistically destroy it, you ought not have a second life
or a second chance for one, even if it were only something as low as
that of an earthworm! Why, because your mother who had not destroyed
her own so that she could give birth to you and did so with a great
deal of birth pain typically only ended up being an earthworm, at
least according to Da Lama and his high priests. So it would be
totally unfair and anti-karmic that she ended up only the way you
worthless scum would end up, who has wantonly destroyed the life she
gave you at a click of your cigarette lighter.
So, not only that it is delusional for you to believe that you could
reincarnate in a place of your own choosing, it is more likely that
you would never be reborn and never would have a chance to see the
beautiful Tibet again.
Also, think about how we've never heard that a high-level lama had
committed this kind of ritual suicide by fire, but only teenage boys
or nomads! You can see the iniquity in Da Lama's depraved scheme to
sacrifice the socially unimportant people for his own personal glory.
So to hell with Da Lama! Let the Tibetans wake up and take advantage
of the life and time that they have now and work for a better future
for themselves and their loved ones, just as the rest of the Chinese
people have been and are doing.
lo yeeOn
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Mining to become key to Tibet's economy
Updated: 2012-07-09 08:06
By Du Juan in Tibet (China Daily)
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2012-07/09/content_15559742.htm
Employees of Huatailong Mining Development Co, a subsidiary of China
National Gold Group Corp, celebrating the Tibetan New Year with local
people in February. Located in Jiama town, Metrorkongka county, 68
kilometers from the center of Lhasa, the Huatailong mining project
benefits not only the local people working with the company but their
family members, including the local post-1980 and post-1990
generations. Provided to China Daily
Autonomous region has massive reserves of high-value minerals
Having bought a house in Lhasa and a brand-new car, Ngawang Tsering,
59, a Tibet resident, said he is grateful for what he owns.
"I don't have any special skills but I earn 2,000 yuan ($317) a month
by being an entrance guard at the mine," said the employee of
Huatailong Mining Development Co, a subsidiary company of China
National Gold Group Corp. "My life has changed so much for the better
since the mining company arrived."
He said there are seven people in his family and they all had a
nomadic life before with an annual income of a mere 20,000 yuan. Now
his son earns 5,000 yuan a month as a truck driver at Huatailong's
mining project in Jiama town, Metrorkongka county, 68 kilometers from
the center of Lhasa, the capital city of the Tibet autonomous region
Many local people like Ngawang Tsering see the exploration and
development of the region's resources benefiting not only themselves
but their family members, including the local post-1980 and post-1990
generations.
Tsering Dekyi, 24, said she feels lucky to be working at Huatailong
Mining after graduating.
"There are five people in my family and only my dad made money before
I got the job at the company," she said. "I went to Jiangsu province
to go to middle school and Tianjin for my high school. Because we were
poor, my brother and I could not both go to college."
She decided to let her younger brother go to college instead of her.
Check out this photo of Ngawang Tsering:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/attachement/jpg/site1/20120709/f04da2db11221164670702.jpg
Tsering, aged 59, looks very happy and appears in excellent health
with great teeth to boot.
However, after she worked as an intern at Huatailong Mining, the
company decided to send her to Shenyang in Liaoning province to study
at the Northeastern University, majoring in mining engineering.
"State-owned companies have brought not only economic growth for
Tibet, but also the opportunities for local young people to benefit
economically and academically," said Tsering Dekyi. "This is a great
contribution."
She said that the mining industry in Tibet is essential for national
economic growth and she is keen to see every single ore mined here
fully used for the economy.
So far, Huatailong Mining has financed nine local young people to go
to college in inland areas. It also donated 740,000 yuan to improve
local people's daily lives and 550,000 yuan to local students in the
autonomous region.
To counter poverty and improve local employment, the company hired 191
locals in Tibet. There are 214 staff employees from non-Han ethnic
groups, which account for 35 percent of the company's staff, the
highest percentage among mining companies in China.
Before China Gold came to Jiama, there used to be many small-scale
private miners. Some locals made a living by driving trucks for a
transport business but because they were not well managed disputes
often broke out.
In December 2009, China Gold invested 16 million yuan in purchasing
the transport team and formed Jiama Industrial and Trading Co,
composed of all 655 families with 3,850 local people in
Jiama. Everyone has received a year-end bonus since 2009.
Apart from two people, all the managers, drivers and staff members in
the trading company are locals. Their average salaries can reach as
high as 4,000 yuan a month.
Lukhang Yeshe, a 29-year-old local who works at the company, told
China Daily that many employees at the company had bought their own
cars after one or two years of working.
"At the beginning, many people were against the mining projects in
Jiama, believing exploring the mines was not respectful to the
spirits," he said. "The situation has changed now. Most graduates in
Lhasa want to work at the mine, considering it to be a good job."
Environment
However, Jiama area has an average altitude of 3,900 meters above sea
level with the highest place at 5,300 meters, which makes both the
mining operation and environmental protection difficult.
"Equipment that operates at high altitudes is more expensive. The cost
of social security is more than other projects inland, too," said Chai
Liwei, who has worked for Huatailong Mining's safety department for
three years in Tibet.
He said the company has spent a lot on environment protection
including keeping the water clean and conserving the grass and sparing
no effort on minimizing the impact on nature.
In order to protect the grass, the company spent 200 million yuan on
an underground ore-delivering tunnel, which is 5.5 kilometers long and
varies in height by 397 meters.
The tunnel, the first of its kind in China, can deliver products from
the mining area directly to the ore treatment plants. It has an annual
delivery capacity of 2 million tons, said Teng Yongqing, general
manager of Huatailong.
He said the company spent 15 million yuan on greening projects around
the mine in 2011 and a total investment of 200 million yuan since 2007
on road greening, planting projects and drip irrigation facilities.
"National standards require that the environmental protection costs
should take up at least 3 percent of the total project investment for
mining companies," he said. "Huatailong has spent more than 11
percent, which is much higher than the national requirements."
Since its establishment in 2007, the company has been working on
environmental improvements in the Jiama area in order to build the
trust of local people and not inconvenience their lives.
The company spent 26.55 million yuan on building a road from the
national highway to Jiama and 6 million yuan on planting on both sides
of it about 4,000 willow trees that can survive in the plateau area.
It is hard to believe when driving along the road that it is a mining
area on the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau because there are more trees than in
some parts of Beijing.
The total plantation area covers 155,000 square meters, according to
the company, which made records of the survival rate of different
species of tree they planted. The survival percentage of some trees
such as the willow and redleaf cherry plum was raised from 50 percent
to 80 percent in 2012 after professional care.
In April, the company started planting up to 2,000 aspens in the area
to create more shade.
Mining projects
To help the local Tibet residents to have better living standards and
earn more, the company decided to hire them to help with the
planting. Each of them can get paid 50 to 70 yuan a day. According to
the company, during April to September, the company can help 60 to 80
local people to earn 7,500 yuan each.
"I used to be snubbed by my fellow villagers because I helped people
from the inland to explore the mining resources in the region," said
Lukhang Yeshe when being asked about the difficulties of his job.
He started by acting as an interpreter of the Tibetan language for
Mandarin speakers in 2008 and is now the general manager's assistant
at Huatailong.
He said the area has a 15-year history of mining and there were mainly
private companies in the area before China Gold came in 2008. The
private mining companies were not well regulated and disputes often
erupted among the local people over the deaths of yaks that drank
polluted water and the reduction in grassland.
The regional government asked State-owned companies to begin mining
and associated development there during the 11th Five-Year Plan
(2006-10). The aim was to develop the mining resources scientifically
with advanced technology and protect the fragile natural environment
on the plateau at the same time.
Huatailong was officially established in December 2007 in Tibet by its
parent company, China Gold, on such an understanding.
After 40 separate negotiations over six months between Huatailong and
other companies in the Jiama area, the company succeeded in acquiring
four mining rights, five exploration rights and eight mines in a total
area of 144 square kilometers in July 2008.
"I believe that the participation of a State-owned company in the
mining industry in Tibet is beneficial and meaningful to the place
because the company has the responsibility and financial strength to
protect the natural environment at such a high altitude, something
that requires huge investment," said Lukhang Yeshe.
After two years of construction, the first phrase of the Jiama project
started production in July 2010 and realized revenues of 150 million
yuan in the same year.
Over the past three years, the company has spent 252 million yuan in
total on prospecting for minerals, discovering proven copper reserves
in the area of 6.2 million tons from proven reserves in 2007 of
930,000 tons. Meanwhile, the company discovered 650,000 tons of
molybdenum reserves, 140 tons of gold reserves, 8,624 tons of silver
reserves and 560,000 tons of lead and zinc reserves.
At present, 40 drilling machines are being used to explore for more
resources. Industry experts believe the overall mining resources in
Jiama will together be equal to more than 20 million tons of copper in
terms of value.
Prosperous planning
Located in the largest and highest plateau in the world, Tibet has
rich mining resources with its unique natural geographic
features. Analysts estimate that the mining industry will account for
one third of the region's gross domestic product and become the most
important industry in the area.
According to the Land and Resources Office of the autonomous region,
Tibet has 101 kinds of proven reserves, among which many resources
such as copper, gold, chromium and boron are in short supply in
China. The chromic iron ore reserve is the biggest in China and the
copper reserve the second biggest.
The office said the potential value of the mining resources in Tibet
is more than 600 billion yuan.
Huatailong is the only subsidiary company of China Gold in Tibet. Most
products are sold to Jinchuan Group Co, the third largest copper
producer in China, said Teng Yongqing of Huatailong.
Tibet Mineral Development Co, which was formed in 1994 and listed on
Shenzhen Stock Exchange in 1997, has a longer history than Huatailong
in Tibet's mining industry. It is engaged in the exploration and
collection of ferrous metal mines and involved in the exploration and
sale of chromite, the processing and sale of ferrochrome and the
exploration of copper, iron, lithium and boron.
Teng, who used to work for another gold mining company under China
Gold in Sichuan province and has been working in Tibet for two years,
told China Daily that the company plans to build its own smelting
plant.
Asked about competition in the region, he said it is not "tough" now
even though many mining companies are seeing the importance and
opportunities in Tibet but the high technology requirements to operate
at the high altitude deterred some.
"The mining industry is still in its infancy in Tibet and the priority
is to help the region to develop it together for all the mining
companies," he said.
He estimated that the company will produce 12,000 tons of copper in
2012.
The world's consumption of copper during the first four months was
nearly 7 million tons, and China makes up 44 percent of the world's
use of it at 3 million tons, according to the World Bureau of Metal
Statistics.
The bureau said there was a shortage of 277,000 tons of copper in the
world market during the first four months.
The second phrase of the Jiama project with an investment of more than
5 billion yuan is now being prepared. According to the company, it
will be completed by the end of 2013.
After the completion of the second phrase, the Jiama project will have
a daily mining production capacity of 4,000 tons. When the company
finishes the construction of the underground mining system by the end
of 2014, the daily capacity will reach 20,000 tons.
The company said after completion, annual output will reach 50,000
tons of copper, 1.2 tons of gold and 50 tons of silver. At current
prices, the yearly sales revenue of the company will reach 4.50
billion yuan with profits of 1.18 billion yuan.
According to the region's 12th Five-Year Plan (2011-15), the Tibet
mining industry will need governmental financial support of 16 billion
yuan and social investment of 32 billion yuan. The newly added mineral
reserves will reach 2,000 billion yuan by 2015.
The total output value of the industry in Tibet will reach 40 billion
yuan by the end of 2015 and 80 billion by 2020.
Sun Zhaoxue, chairman of China Gold, the only central State-owned
enterprise in the gold industry in the country, said it will
accelerate development of the second phase of the Jiama project and,
by 2014, the company will have an annual production capacity of 63,000
tons of copper, which is valued at 4 billion yuan according to the
current price.
Plans also call for Jiama to be one of the top nonferrous metal
production sites in the world in five years.
The company has invested 280 million yuan in exploration and estimates
the area holds 8 million tons of proven copper ore reserves, 20 times
more than in 2007 when the company began mining in the region.
According to public data, China Gold increased its total gold reserves
from 275 tons in 2006 to 1,380 tons in 2011. Its overall copper
reserves increased from 1.25 million tons to 9.9 million tons in the
period.
Sun said the company envisages tripling both its total assets and
revenues from 2011 to 2015 with the aim of joining top-tier global
mining companies.
duj...@chinadaily.com.cn
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In article <5569981.WgQA62Ev4j@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>lo yeeOn wrote:
>
>> Hard-Yards Push-Push asks: How is CCP's creditability?
>
>Well are you able to answer mister lo yeeOn?
Don't just delete my response and then ask for answers I've already
provided in that response. But since you ask, here I am, again!.
Here are some evidence that the CCP has plenty of credibility - and
then we'll go to your "creditability" as a corollary, ok?
1) we have
"Some foreigners with full bellies and nothing better to do engage
in finger-pointing at us: First, China does not export revolution;
second, it does not export famine and poverty; and third, it does
not mess around with you. So what else is there to say?"
- Xi Jinping (incoming Chinese President)
2) China is lending the US and the EU (many of which countries have
been financing the NATO budget) billions and billions of USD to fight
their war of terror (which they call war on terror) around the world,
terrorizing Mother Earth and her children. Tell me if such a lender
is not creditable? (Tell me: When is someone with a bank with a large
cash reserve which loans money out ever not creditable?)
3) China has lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty.
4) China is only the third country in the world which has sent men and
women into space.
5) China has the best musicians such as Lang Lang and Yuha Wang to
serve as role models for billions of young people around the world.
6) China has made Tibet immediately accessible to people who want to
travel from Shanghai or Beijing to Lhasa, by plane or by rail.
7) China has built such a powerful nation that the West is instantly
drooling with jealousy every time her people's Congress meets, in the
space of every five years.
8) while Japan wants the US to strengthen their mutual defense treaty
in order to seize a few islands historically a part of China, China is
ready to fight alone, as it always has fought, to defend itself.
9) China never asks other nations to give it to her, whatever "it"
might be. She always tries to make "it" happen while Da Lama always
begs nations to destabilize China.
10) China under the CCP has not bombed another country and never
exported violence, even as Da Lama and his cohorts have been inciting
violence inside Tibet at the expense of Da Lama's own people. And all
the while, the CCP has been working hard to subsidize the large number
of Tibetan monks and their monasteries in China to try to give them a
stable and sufficient environment to live in.
And many more points can be made ...!
You can not lie and fib to have these things done; so, the CCP has
plenty of credibility.
Therefore, although people don't talk about "creditability" as you
idiotically have done, it is obvious that the CCP's credibility also
translates well into their "creditability". There is your answer.
To the contrary, Da Lama and the TGIE say one thing and do another.
They say: we want to talk to the CCP about our idea of a "genuine"
autonomy for Tibet while accepting China's sovereignty over us.
Yet, they immediately turn around and say:
"China is effectively occupying Tibet because there are X,Y,Z,W,V,
regions in China where Tibetans live, which are not designated
Tibetan autonomous regions. So they are violating their
Constitution. We're just asking them to follow the their
Constitution..."
(In other words, they are asking the CCP to enlarge TAR to include
X,Y,Z,W,V and give them all to Da Lama and his TGIE in order to
satisfy their criterion for "genuine" autonomy or self rule.)
And as Da Lama and cohorts' alleged self-immolation incidents were
being reported, they always say that the self-immolators shouted for
the return of Da Lama and for Tibet's independence.
So it is clear that Da Lama and "his people" do not have the same idea
of they really want from the CCP!
Do they want independence?
Or do they want Da Lama's Middle Way for Tibetan autonomy?
In the end, Da Lama may not at all represent the Tibetan people at
all.
When the children who died a grisly death that Da Lama and his TGIE
cohorts glorified wanted a different vision for Tibet, then it is
clearly a waste of time for the CCP, i.e., the Chinese government, to
negotiate with them - the people who chant a different tune, the tune
of "My way is the middle way".
No way! That is really the story.
And if the Tibetans in China who listen to Da Lama have no "voice", it
is because Da Lama and his TGIE cohorts are putting a restraint on
them. They want them to sacrifice their lives but they do not make
any serious effort to negotiate. They do not bring good faith to the
negotiation table where good faith is the first requirement of any
successful negotiation.
And of course, the CCP has known that Da Lama does not represent the
Chinese Tibetans in the first place.
Why? Because Da Lama and his cohorts have never specified how the two
fundamental tenets of Da Lama's Middle Way "autonomy" should interact!
Tenet number 1: China has sovereignty over Tibet (which Da Lama
claims to accept)
Tenet number 2: Da Lama's "Middle Way" or "genuine" autonomy
So, if you have children committing seppuku, errrh, self-immolation
while a large crowd of adult monks stand watching and do nothing, then
every time Da Lama or his cohorts aren't happy about something, they
can incite a bunch more of grisly horrors from your ignorant children
in order to terrify the society. Now under such a prospect, does
China have the right to shut down your monastery and arrest those who
are aiding and abetting the grisly ritual suicide, in order to keep
peace and security in the community, or not? Or, it would be entirely
under your control so as to keep aiding and abetting the sacrifice of
children in order to satisfy Da Lama's and cohorts' depraved desire?
In other words, where does your autonomy begin and end while being
subject to China's sovereign rule?
Da Lama and his TGIE cohorts never specified.
They are clearly intentionally vague about their position so that they
can always use an excuse to stir up trouble and create social tension
with the aim to destabilize China.
In the end, Da Lama and his TGIE cohorts serve their western clients
at the expense of China. So you, Hard-Yards think that the CCP can't
see such a possibility and therefore nip the trouble in the bud right
there when it is still doable?
The CCP has a lot of credibility. Other nations have seen that they
can do business with them. Even Taiwan can trust them. And that's
why no country recognizes the TGIE. The only reason why Da Lama is
bandied around in the western press is because a certain country and
its formidable group of allies want to use Da Lama to press down
China.
It is a geopolitical decision of the West toward China. But they
still do business with the CCP because CCP has impeccable credibility.
So what more do you want for credibility or "creditability" from the
CCP?
Again, if you meant to ask me about the CCP's credibility, you know of
course it has plenty.
How do we know? We know because China does not say one thing and then
do another when it does business with others, unlike Da Lama who has a
huge credibility gap by saying one thing and then immediately doing
something else - that was my original claim.
And from our discussion above, the contrast between the CCP's firm and
universal reputation of possessing it and Da Lama's equally clear lack
of it cannot be more sharply illustrated.
lo yeeOn
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My previous response attached:
In article <3042255.pTWfGjmum1@Dharma>,
>
>According to the CCP.
Ah, but you are wrong, dead wrong. First, the CCP never brought up
the seppuku ritual suicides to describe today's ritualistic suicides
committed by Da Lama's followers. It is my personal observation. I
see the similarities in the two, namely, 1) both are ritualistic and
extremely grisly and 2) both are for the restoration of an ancient
order that has long outlived its place in the respective society. Do
you see that, darling?
As for the statement: "Da Lama has a credibility gap", it is my own
assessment also. And since I am not CCP, ergo, you are dead wrong
about it being "[a]ccording to the CCP". Do you see that too,
sweetheart?
As for the CCP's creditability, as you asked: my answer would be like
many others: AAA+!
creditable: (of a performance, effort, or action) deserving public
acknowledgment and praise but not necessarily outstanding or
--- Oxford Online
First, we have
"Some foreigners with full bellies and nothing better to do engage
in finger-pointing at us: First, China does not export revolution;
second, it does not export famine and poverty; and third, it does
not mess around with you. So what else is there to say?"
- Xi Jinping (incoming Chinese President)
Second, China is lending the US and the EU (many of which countries
have been financing the NATO budget) billions and billions of USD to
fight their war of terror (which they call war on terror) around the
world, terrorizing Mother Earth and her children. Tell me if such a
lender is not creditable? (Tell me: When is someone with a bank with
a large cash reserve which loans money out ever not creditable?)
Third, China has lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty.
Fourth, China is only the third country in the world which has sent
men and women into space.
Fifth, China has the best musicians such as Lang Lang and Yuha Wang to
serve as role models for billions of young people around the world.
Sixth, China has made Tibet immediately accessible to people who want
to travel from Shanghai or Beijing to Lhasa, by plane or by rail.
Seventh, China has built such a powerful nation that the West is
instantly drooling with jealousy every time her people's Congress
meets, in the space of every five years.
Eighth, while Japan wants the US to strengthen their mutual defense
treaty in order to seize a few islands historically a part of China,
China is ready to fight alone, as it always has fought, to defend
itself.
Ninth, China never asks other nations to give it to her, whatever
"it" might be. She always tries to make "it" happen while Da Lama
always begs nations to destabilize China.
Tenth, China under the CCP has not bombed another country and never
exported violence, even as Da Lama and his cohorts have been inciting
violence inside Tibet at the expense of Da Lama's own people. And all
the while, the CCP has been working hard to subsidize the large number
of Tibetan monks and their monasteries in China to try to give them a
stable and sufficient environment to live in.
And many more points can be made ...!
So, what more do you want for the CCP's creditability?
lo yeeOn
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>
>How is CCP's creditability?
Subject: Da Lama wants dialog (with China) while hobnobbing with Japan's extremists - recall Yukio Mishima and his ilk and their seppuku rituals - think self-immolations for Da Lama's ignorant extremist followers - Da Lama has a credibility gap Re: Dialogue is only realistic way to solve problems, says His Holiness
Seppuku, also known as hara-kiri, is a form of grisly ritual suicide
by disembowelment, practised by ancient Japanese Samurais and more
recently by extremist Japanese, such as Yukio Mishima and his
followers, who believe in the divinity of the Japanese empire.
In 1967, Mishima enlisted in the Ground Self Defense Force (GSDF)
and underwent basic training. A year later, he formed the Tatenokai
(Shield Society), a private army composed primarily of young
students who studied martial principles and physical discipline, and
swore to protect the Emperor. Mishima trained them himself. However,
under Mishima's ideology, the emperor was not necessarily the
reigning Emperor, but rather the abstract essence of Japan. In Eirei
no Koe (Voices of the Heroic Dead), Mishima actually denounces
Emperor Hirohito for renouncing his claim of divinity at the end of
World War II.
In 1970, famed author Yukio Mishima and one of his followers
committed public seppuku at the Japan Self-Defense Forces
headquarters after an unsuccessful attempt to incite the armed
forces to stage a coup d'etat.
Mishima committed seppuku in the office of General Kanetoshi
Mashita. His second, a 25-year-old named Masakatsu Morita, tried
three times to ritually behead Mishima but failed; his head was
finally severed by Hiroyasu Koga. Morita then attempted to commit
seppuku himself. Although his own cuts were too shallow to be fatal,
he gave the signal and he too was beheaded by Koga.
- wikipedia
For further comments of mine, see below.
Instead of helping to establish guidelines and a suicide-prevention
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>lo yeeOn wrote:
>
>> Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as
>> he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction
>> recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people.
>
>Hahahaha :-)
>
>Love, Peter
It is indeed quite laughable to see that Da Lama flew a thousand miles
>lo yeeOn wrote:
>
>> Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as
>> he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction
>> recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people.
>
>Hahahaha :-)
>
>Love, Peter
over to Japan, perform all kinds of frivolous ceremonies for his hosts
and even offer stress reduction advice to them while Da Lama's own
"people" were left behind in Tibet and also Dharamsala agonizing over
his absence. So much so that even 15 or 16 year olds who have never
seen Da Lama in their tender lives were allegedly so freaked out as to
have committed the ritual seppuku, errrh, Da Lama's preferred version
of ritual suicide by fire that is kind of equivalent to the Japanese
grisly seppuku, at least according to the TGIE's own sources.
I think there must have been some kind of unforgivable abuse in the
idea of reincarnation over there in Da Lama land. I am pretty sure
that the original Buddha did not receive an epiphany that told him to
tell his disciples that you have reincarnation for free, no more what
you have done to your own sacred life. I mean, life is so sacred that
when you ritualistically destroy it, you ought not have a second life
or a second chance for one, even if it were only something as low as
that of an earthworm! Why, because your mother who had not destroyed
her own so that she could give birth to you and did so with a great
deal of birth pain typically only ended up being an earthworm, at
least according to Da Lama and his high priests. So it would be
totally unfair and anti-karmic that she ended up only the way you
worthless scum would end up, who has wantonly destroyed the life she
gave you at a click of your cigarette lighter.
So, not only that it is delusional for you to believe that you could
reincarnate in a place of your own choosing, it is more likely that
you would never be reborn and never would have a chance to see the
beautiful Tibet again.
Also, think about how we've never heard that a high-level lama had
committed this kind of ritual suicide by fire, but only teenage boys
or nomads! You can see the iniquity in Da Lama's depraved scheme to
sacrifice the socially unimportant people for his own personal glory.
So to hell with Da Lama! Let the Tibetans wake up and take advantage
of the life and time that they have now and work for a better future
for themselves and their loved ones, just as the rest of the Chinese
people have been and are doing.
lo yeeOn
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Mining to become key to Tibet's economy
Updated: 2012-07-09 08:06
By Du Juan in Tibet (China Daily)
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2012-07/09/content_15559742.htm
Employees of Huatailong Mining Development Co, a subsidiary of China
National Gold Group Corp, celebrating the Tibetan New Year with local
people in February. Located in Jiama town, Metrorkongka county, 68
kilometers from the center of Lhasa, the Huatailong mining project
benefits not only the local people working with the company but their
family members, including the local post-1980 and post-1990
generations. Provided to China Daily
Autonomous region has massive reserves of high-value minerals
Having bought a house in Lhasa and a brand-new car, Ngawang Tsering,
59, a Tibet resident, said he is grateful for what he owns.
"I don't have any special skills but I earn 2,000 yuan ($317) a month
by being an entrance guard at the mine," said the employee of
Huatailong Mining Development Co, a subsidiary company of China
National Gold Group Corp. "My life has changed so much for the better
since the mining company arrived."
He said there are seven people in his family and they all had a
nomadic life before with an annual income of a mere 20,000 yuan. Now
his son earns 5,000 yuan a month as a truck driver at Huatailong's
mining project in Jiama town, Metrorkongka county, 68 kilometers from
the center of Lhasa, the capital city of the Tibet autonomous region
Many local people like Ngawang Tsering see the exploration and
development of the region's resources benefiting not only themselves
but their family members, including the local post-1980 and post-1990
generations.
Tsering Dekyi, 24, said she feels lucky to be working at Huatailong
Mining after graduating.
"There are five people in my family and only my dad made money before
I got the job at the company," she said. "I went to Jiangsu province
to go to middle school and Tianjin for my high school. Because we were
poor, my brother and I could not both go to college."
She decided to let her younger brother go to college instead of her.
Check out this photo of Ngawang Tsering:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/attachement/jpg/site1/20120709/f04da2db11221164670702.jpg
Tsering, aged 59, looks very happy and appears in excellent health
with great teeth to boot.
However, after she worked as an intern at Huatailong Mining, the
company decided to send her to Shenyang in Liaoning province to study
at the Northeastern University, majoring in mining engineering.
"State-owned companies have brought not only economic growth for
Tibet, but also the opportunities for local young people to benefit
economically and academically," said Tsering Dekyi. "This is a great
contribution."
She said that the mining industry in Tibet is essential for national
economic growth and she is keen to see every single ore mined here
fully used for the economy.
So far, Huatailong Mining has financed nine local young people to go
to college in inland areas. It also donated 740,000 yuan to improve
local people's daily lives and 550,000 yuan to local students in the
autonomous region.
To counter poverty and improve local employment, the company hired 191
locals in Tibet. There are 214 staff employees from non-Han ethnic
groups, which account for 35 percent of the company's staff, the
highest percentage among mining companies in China.
Before China Gold came to Jiama, there used to be many small-scale
private miners. Some locals made a living by driving trucks for a
transport business but because they were not well managed disputes
often broke out.
In December 2009, China Gold invested 16 million yuan in purchasing
the transport team and formed Jiama Industrial and Trading Co,
composed of all 655 families with 3,850 local people in
Jiama. Everyone has received a year-end bonus since 2009.
Apart from two people, all the managers, drivers and staff members in
the trading company are locals. Their average salaries can reach as
high as 4,000 yuan a month.
Lukhang Yeshe, a 29-year-old local who works at the company, told
China Daily that many employees at the company had bought their own
cars after one or two years of working.
"At the beginning, many people were against the mining projects in
Jiama, believing exploring the mines was not respectful to the
spirits," he said. "The situation has changed now. Most graduates in
Lhasa want to work at the mine, considering it to be a good job."
Environment
However, Jiama area has an average altitude of 3,900 meters above sea
level with the highest place at 5,300 meters, which makes both the
mining operation and environmental protection difficult.
"Equipment that operates at high altitudes is more expensive. The cost
of social security is more than other projects inland, too," said Chai
Liwei, who has worked for Huatailong Mining's safety department for
three years in Tibet.
He said the company has spent a lot on environment protection
including keeping the water clean and conserving the grass and sparing
no effort on minimizing the impact on nature.
In order to protect the grass, the company spent 200 million yuan on
an underground ore-delivering tunnel, which is 5.5 kilometers long and
varies in height by 397 meters.
The tunnel, the first of its kind in China, can deliver products from
the mining area directly to the ore treatment plants. It has an annual
delivery capacity of 2 million tons, said Teng Yongqing, general
manager of Huatailong.
He said the company spent 15 million yuan on greening projects around
the mine in 2011 and a total investment of 200 million yuan since 2007
on road greening, planting projects and drip irrigation facilities.
"National standards require that the environmental protection costs
should take up at least 3 percent of the total project investment for
mining companies," he said. "Huatailong has spent more than 11
percent, which is much higher than the national requirements."
Since its establishment in 2007, the company has been working on
environmental improvements in the Jiama area in order to build the
trust of local people and not inconvenience their lives.
The company spent 26.55 million yuan on building a road from the
national highway to Jiama and 6 million yuan on planting on both sides
of it about 4,000 willow trees that can survive in the plateau area.
It is hard to believe when driving along the road that it is a mining
area on the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau because there are more trees than in
some parts of Beijing.
The total plantation area covers 155,000 square meters, according to
the company, which made records of the survival rate of different
species of tree they planted. The survival percentage of some trees
such as the willow and redleaf cherry plum was raised from 50 percent
to 80 percent in 2012 after professional care.
In April, the company started planting up to 2,000 aspens in the area
to create more shade.
Mining projects
To help the local Tibet residents to have better living standards and
earn more, the company decided to hire them to help with the
planting. Each of them can get paid 50 to 70 yuan a day. According to
the company, during April to September, the company can help 60 to 80
local people to earn 7,500 yuan each.
"I used to be snubbed by my fellow villagers because I helped people
from the inland to explore the mining resources in the region," said
Lukhang Yeshe when being asked about the difficulties of his job.
He started by acting as an interpreter of the Tibetan language for
Mandarin speakers in 2008 and is now the general manager's assistant
at Huatailong.
He said the area has a 15-year history of mining and there were mainly
private companies in the area before China Gold came in 2008. The
private mining companies were not well regulated and disputes often
erupted among the local people over the deaths of yaks that drank
polluted water and the reduction in grassland.
The regional government asked State-owned companies to begin mining
and associated development there during the 11th Five-Year Plan
(2006-10). The aim was to develop the mining resources scientifically
with advanced technology and protect the fragile natural environment
on the plateau at the same time.
Huatailong was officially established in December 2007 in Tibet by its
parent company, China Gold, on such an understanding.
After 40 separate negotiations over six months between Huatailong and
other companies in the Jiama area, the company succeeded in acquiring
four mining rights, five exploration rights and eight mines in a total
area of 144 square kilometers in July 2008.
"I believe that the participation of a State-owned company in the
mining industry in Tibet is beneficial and meaningful to the place
because the company has the responsibility and financial strength to
protect the natural environment at such a high altitude, something
that requires huge investment," said Lukhang Yeshe.
After two years of construction, the first phrase of the Jiama project
started production in July 2010 and realized revenues of 150 million
yuan in the same year.
Over the past three years, the company has spent 252 million yuan in
total on prospecting for minerals, discovering proven copper reserves
in the area of 6.2 million tons from proven reserves in 2007 of
930,000 tons. Meanwhile, the company discovered 650,000 tons of
molybdenum reserves, 140 tons of gold reserves, 8,624 tons of silver
reserves and 560,000 tons of lead and zinc reserves.
At present, 40 drilling machines are being used to explore for more
resources. Industry experts believe the overall mining resources in
Jiama will together be equal to more than 20 million tons of copper in
terms of value.
Prosperous planning
Located in the largest and highest plateau in the world, Tibet has
rich mining resources with its unique natural geographic
features. Analysts estimate that the mining industry will account for
one third of the region's gross domestic product and become the most
important industry in the area.
According to the Land and Resources Office of the autonomous region,
Tibet has 101 kinds of proven reserves, among which many resources
such as copper, gold, chromium and boron are in short supply in
China. The chromic iron ore reserve is the biggest in China and the
copper reserve the second biggest.
The office said the potential value of the mining resources in Tibet
is more than 600 billion yuan.
Huatailong is the only subsidiary company of China Gold in Tibet. Most
products are sold to Jinchuan Group Co, the third largest copper
producer in China, said Teng Yongqing of Huatailong.
Tibet Mineral Development Co, which was formed in 1994 and listed on
Shenzhen Stock Exchange in 1997, has a longer history than Huatailong
in Tibet's mining industry. It is engaged in the exploration and
collection of ferrous metal mines and involved in the exploration and
sale of chromite, the processing and sale of ferrochrome and the
exploration of copper, iron, lithium and boron.
Teng, who used to work for another gold mining company under China
Gold in Sichuan province and has been working in Tibet for two years,
told China Daily that the company plans to build its own smelting
plant.
Asked about competition in the region, he said it is not "tough" now
even though many mining companies are seeing the importance and
opportunities in Tibet but the high technology requirements to operate
at the high altitude deterred some.
"The mining industry is still in its infancy in Tibet and the priority
is to help the region to develop it together for all the mining
companies," he said.
He estimated that the company will produce 12,000 tons of copper in
2012.
The world's consumption of copper during the first four months was
nearly 7 million tons, and China makes up 44 percent of the world's
use of it at 3 million tons, according to the World Bureau of Metal
Statistics.
The bureau said there was a shortage of 277,000 tons of copper in the
world market during the first four months.
The second phrase of the Jiama project with an investment of more than
5 billion yuan is now being prepared. According to the company, it
will be completed by the end of 2013.
After the completion of the second phrase, the Jiama project will have
a daily mining production capacity of 4,000 tons. When the company
finishes the construction of the underground mining system by the end
of 2014, the daily capacity will reach 20,000 tons.
The company said after completion, annual output will reach 50,000
tons of copper, 1.2 tons of gold and 50 tons of silver. At current
prices, the yearly sales revenue of the company will reach 4.50
billion yuan with profits of 1.18 billion yuan.
According to the region's 12th Five-Year Plan (2011-15), the Tibet
mining industry will need governmental financial support of 16 billion
yuan and social investment of 32 billion yuan. The newly added mineral
reserves will reach 2,000 billion yuan by 2015.
The total output value of the industry in Tibet will reach 40 billion
yuan by the end of 2015 and 80 billion by 2020.
Sun Zhaoxue, chairman of China Gold, the only central State-owned
enterprise in the gold industry in the country, said it will
accelerate development of the second phase of the Jiama project and,
by 2014, the company will have an annual production capacity of 63,000
tons of copper, which is valued at 4 billion yuan according to the
current price.
Plans also call for Jiama to be one of the top nonferrous metal
production sites in the world in five years.
The company has invested 280 million yuan in exploration and estimates
the area holds 8 million tons of proven copper ore reserves, 20 times
more than in 2007 when the company began mining in the region.
According to public data, China Gold increased its total gold reserves
from 275 tons in 2006 to 1,380 tons in 2011. Its overall copper
reserves increased from 1.25 million tons to 9.9 million tons in the
period.
Sun said the company envisages tripling both its total assets and
revenues from 2011 to 2015 with the aim of joining top-tier global
mining companies.
duj...@chinadaily.com.cn
------------------------
In article <5569981.WgQA62Ev4j@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>lo yeeOn wrote:
>
>> Hard-Yards Push-Push asks: How is CCP's creditability?
>
>Well are you able to answer mister lo yeeOn?
Don't just delete my response and then ask for answers I've already
provided in that response. But since you ask, here I am, again!.
Here are some evidence that the CCP has plenty of credibility - and
then we'll go to your "creditability" as a corollary, ok?
1) we have
"Some foreigners with full bellies and nothing better to do engage
in finger-pointing at us: First, China does not export revolution;
second, it does not export famine and poverty; and third, it does
not mess around with you. So what else is there to say?"
- Xi Jinping (incoming Chinese President)
2) China is lending the US and the EU (many of which countries have
been financing the NATO budget) billions and billions of USD to fight
their war of terror (which they call war on terror) around the world,
terrorizing Mother Earth and her children. Tell me if such a lender
is not creditable? (Tell me: When is someone with a bank with a large
cash reserve which loans money out ever not creditable?)
3) China has lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty.
4) China is only the third country in the world which has sent men and
women into space.
5) China has the best musicians such as Lang Lang and Yuha Wang to
serve as role models for billions of young people around the world.
6) China has made Tibet immediately accessible to people who want to
travel from Shanghai or Beijing to Lhasa, by plane or by rail.
7) China has built such a powerful nation that the West is instantly
drooling with jealousy every time her people's Congress meets, in the
space of every five years.
8) while Japan wants the US to strengthen their mutual defense treaty
in order to seize a few islands historically a part of China, China is
ready to fight alone, as it always has fought, to defend itself.
9) China never asks other nations to give it to her, whatever "it"
might be. She always tries to make "it" happen while Da Lama always
begs nations to destabilize China.
10) China under the CCP has not bombed another country and never
exported violence, even as Da Lama and his cohorts have been inciting
violence inside Tibet at the expense of Da Lama's own people. And all
the while, the CCP has been working hard to subsidize the large number
of Tibetan monks and their monasteries in China to try to give them a
stable and sufficient environment to live in.
And many more points can be made ...!
You can not lie and fib to have these things done; so, the CCP has
plenty of credibility.
Therefore, although people don't talk about "creditability" as you
idiotically have done, it is obvious that the CCP's credibility also
translates well into their "creditability". There is your answer.
To the contrary, Da Lama and the TGIE say one thing and do another.
They say: we want to talk to the CCP about our idea of a "genuine"
autonomy for Tibet while accepting China's sovereignty over us.
Yet, they immediately turn around and say:
"China is effectively occupying Tibet because there are X,Y,Z,W,V,
regions in China where Tibetans live, which are not designated
Tibetan autonomous regions. So they are violating their
Constitution. We're just asking them to follow the their
Constitution..."
(In other words, they are asking the CCP to enlarge TAR to include
X,Y,Z,W,V and give them all to Da Lama and his TGIE in order to
satisfy their criterion for "genuine" autonomy or self rule.)
And as Da Lama and cohorts' alleged self-immolation incidents were
being reported, they always say that the self-immolators shouted for
the return of Da Lama and for Tibet's independence.
So it is clear that Da Lama and "his people" do not have the same idea
of they really want from the CCP!
Do they want independence?
Or do they want Da Lama's Middle Way for Tibetan autonomy?
In the end, Da Lama may not at all represent the Tibetan people at
all.
When the children who died a grisly death that Da Lama and his TGIE
cohorts glorified wanted a different vision for Tibet, then it is
clearly a waste of time for the CCP, i.e., the Chinese government, to
negotiate with them - the people who chant a different tune, the tune
of "My way is the middle way".
No way! That is really the story.
And if the Tibetans in China who listen to Da Lama have no "voice", it
is because Da Lama and his TGIE cohorts are putting a restraint on
them. They want them to sacrifice their lives but they do not make
any serious effort to negotiate. They do not bring good faith to the
negotiation table where good faith is the first requirement of any
successful negotiation.
And of course, the CCP has known that Da Lama does not represent the
Chinese Tibetans in the first place.
Why? Because Da Lama and his cohorts have never specified how the two
fundamental tenets of Da Lama's Middle Way "autonomy" should interact!
Tenet number 1: China has sovereignty over Tibet (which Da Lama
claims to accept)
Tenet number 2: Da Lama's "Middle Way" or "genuine" autonomy
So, if you have children committing seppuku, errrh, self-immolation
while a large crowd of adult monks stand watching and do nothing, then
every time Da Lama or his cohorts aren't happy about something, they
can incite a bunch more of grisly horrors from your ignorant children
in order to terrify the society. Now under such a prospect, does
China have the right to shut down your monastery and arrest those who
are aiding and abetting the grisly ritual suicide, in order to keep
peace and security in the community, or not? Or, it would be entirely
under your control so as to keep aiding and abetting the sacrifice of
children in order to satisfy Da Lama's and cohorts' depraved desire?
In other words, where does your autonomy begin and end while being
subject to China's sovereign rule?
Da Lama and his TGIE cohorts never specified.
They are clearly intentionally vague about their position so that they
can always use an excuse to stir up trouble and create social tension
with the aim to destabilize China.
In the end, Da Lama and his TGIE cohorts serve their western clients
at the expense of China. So you, Hard-Yards think that the CCP can't
see such a possibility and therefore nip the trouble in the bud right
there when it is still doable?
The CCP has a lot of credibility. Other nations have seen that they
can do business with them. Even Taiwan can trust them. And that's
why no country recognizes the TGIE. The only reason why Da Lama is
bandied around in the western press is because a certain country and
its formidable group of allies want to use Da Lama to press down
China.
It is a geopolitical decision of the West toward China. But they
still do business with the CCP because CCP has impeccable credibility.
So what more do you want for credibility or "creditability" from the
CCP?
Again, if you meant to ask me about the CCP's credibility, you know of
course it has plenty.
How do we know? We know because China does not say one thing and then
do another when it does business with others, unlike Da Lama who has a
huge credibility gap by saying one thing and then immediately doing
something else - that was my original claim.
And from our discussion above, the contrast between the CCP's firm and
universal reputation of possessing it and Da Lama's equally clear lack
of it cannot be more sharply illustrated.
lo yeeOn
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
My previous response attached:
In article <3042255.pTWfGjmum1@Dharma>,
>> Da Lama wants dialog (with China) while hobnobbing with Japan's extremists
>> - remember Yukio Mishima and his ilk and their seppuku rituals - think
>> self-immolations for Da Lama's ignorant extremist followers - Da Lama has
>> a credibility gap.
>> - remember Yukio Mishima and his ilk and their seppuku rituals - think
>> self-immolations for Da Lama's ignorant extremist followers - Da Lama has
>
>According to the CCP.
Ah, but you are wrong, dead wrong. First, the CCP never brought up
the seppuku ritual suicides to describe today's ritualistic suicides
committed by Da Lama's followers. It is my personal observation. I
see the similarities in the two, namely, 1) both are ritualistic and
extremely grisly and 2) both are for the restoration of an ancient
order that has long outlived its place in the respective society. Do
you see that, darling?
As for the statement: "Da Lama has a credibility gap", it is my own
assessment also. And since I am not CCP, ergo, you are dead wrong
about it being "[a]ccording to the CCP". Do you see that too,
sweetheart?
As for the CCP's creditability, as you asked: my answer would be like
many others: AAA+!
creditable: (of a performance, effort, or action) deserving public
acknowledgment and praise but not necessarily outstanding or
--- Oxford Online
First, we have
"Some foreigners with full bellies and nothing better to do engage
in finger-pointing at us: First, China does not export revolution;
second, it does not export famine and poverty; and third, it does
not mess around with you. So what else is there to say?"
- Xi Jinping (incoming Chinese President)
Second, China is lending the US and the EU (many of which countries
have been financing the NATO budget) billions and billions of USD to
fight their war of terror (which they call war on terror) around the
world, terrorizing Mother Earth and her children. Tell me if such a
lender is not creditable? (Tell me: When is someone with a bank with
a large cash reserve which loans money out ever not creditable?)
Third, China has lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty.
Fourth, China is only the third country in the world which has sent
men and women into space.
Fifth, China has the best musicians such as Lang Lang and Yuha Wang to
serve as role models for billions of young people around the world.
Sixth, China has made Tibet immediately accessible to people who want
to travel from Shanghai or Beijing to Lhasa, by plane or by rail.
Seventh, China has built such a powerful nation that the West is
instantly drooling with jealousy every time her people's Congress
meets, in the space of every five years.
Eighth, while Japan wants the US to strengthen their mutual defense
treaty in order to seize a few islands historically a part of China,
China is ready to fight alone, as it always has fought, to defend
itself.
Ninth, China never asks other nations to give it to her, whatever
"it" might be. She always tries to make "it" happen while Da Lama
always begs nations to destabilize China.
Tenth, China under the CCP has not bombed another country and never
exported violence, even as Da Lama and his cohorts have been inciting
violence inside Tibet at the expense of Da Lama's own people. And all
the while, the CCP has been working hard to subsidize the large number
of Tibetan monks and their monasteries in China to try to give them a
stable and sufficient environment to live in.
And many more points can be made ...!
So, what more do you want for the CCP's creditability?
lo yeeOn
----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>How is CCP's creditability?
Subject: Da Lama wants dialog (with China) while hobnobbing with Japan's extremists - recall Yukio Mishima and his ilk and their seppuku rituals - think self-immolations for Da Lama's ignorant extremist followers - Da Lama has a credibility gap Re: Dialogue is only realistic way to solve problems, says His Holiness
Seppuku, also known as hara-kiri, is a form of grisly ritual suicide
by disembowelment, practised by ancient Japanese Samurais and more
recently by extremist Japanese, such as Yukio Mishima and his
followers, who believe in the divinity of the Japanese empire.
In 1967, Mishima enlisted in the Ground Self Defense Force (GSDF)
and underwent basic training. A year later, he formed the Tatenokai
(Shield Society), a private army composed primarily of young
students who studied martial principles and physical discipline, and
swore to protect the Emperor. Mishima trained them himself. However,
under Mishima's ideology, the emperor was not necessarily the
reigning Emperor, but rather the abstract essence of Japan. In Eirei
no Koe (Voices of the Heroic Dead), Mishima actually denounces
Emperor Hirohito for renouncing his claim of divinity at the end of
World War II.
In 1970, famed author Yukio Mishima and one of his followers
committed public seppuku at the Japan Self-Defense Forces
headquarters after an unsuccessful attempt to incite the armed
forces to stage a coup d'etat.
Mishima committed seppuku in the office of General Kanetoshi
Mashita. His second, a 25-year-old named Masakatsu Morita, tried
three times to ritually behead Mishima but failed; his head was
finally severed by Hiroyasu Koga. Morita then attempted to commit
seppuku himself. Although his own cuts were too shallow to be fatal,
he gave the signal and he too was beheaded by Koga.
- wikipedia
For further comments of mine, see below.
network, the kind of work Da Lama should be ready to offer as a form
of charity, especially when he charges western celebrities or exotic
faith seekers a lot of money for his advice, he has been sitting on
his fat ass and pointing a finger at the Chinese government, the party
he and his TGIE (Tibetan Government in Exile) have alternately begged
and screamed at to negotiate for a form of "genuine" autonomy for
Tibet under Chinese sovereignty.
By making virulent accusations at the party you purportedly want to
negotiate with, you make meaningful negotiation impossible. And so
you stall the negotiation and exacerbate the suffering of your
followers who have hung their hope on your leadership and dimplomacy.
And by obscuring how China's sovereignty over Tibet should interact
with your idea of a "genuine" autonomy, you have made your negotiating
position impossible to decipher and settlement impossible to reach.
Meanwhile, you go to Japan for 12 days, clearly with the intention to
coincide your presence in Japan with the Chinese leadership transfer
that has been taking place in Beijing. And you volunteered yourself
to talk about the islands hotly disputed between China and Japan.
How do you think the injection of yourself into the debate of those
islands helps you further your TGIE representative's position
of charity, especially when he charges western celebrities or exotic
faith seekers a lot of money for his advice, he has been sitting on
his fat ass and pointing a finger at the Chinese government, the party
he and his TGIE (Tibetan Government in Exile) have alternately begged
and screamed at to negotiate for a form of "genuine" autonomy for
Tibet under Chinese sovereignty.
By making virulent accusations at the party you purportedly want to
negotiate with, you make meaningful negotiation impossible. And so
you stall the negotiation and exacerbate the suffering of your
followers who have hung their hope on your leadership and dimplomacy.
And by obscuring how China's sovereignty over Tibet should interact
with your idea of a "genuine" autonomy, you have made your negotiating
position impossible to decipher and settlement impossible to reach.
Meanwhile, you go to Japan for 12 days, clearly with the intention to
coincide your presence in Japan with the Chinese leadership transfer
that has been taking place in Beijing. And you volunteered yourself
to talk about the islands hotly disputed between China and Japan.
How do you think the injection of yourself into the debate of those
Peter Terpstra
Nov 15, 2012, 3:23:24 AM11/15/12
to
lo yeeOn wrote:
> Da Lama is phony, speaking with a forked tongue.
Yes we know the rhetoric of the CCP.
Thank you kindly for your reply.
Love, Peter
> Da Lama is phony, speaking with a forked tongue.
Yes we know the rhetoric of the CCP.
Thank you kindly for your reply.
Love, Peter
lo yeeOn
Nov 15, 2012, 3:50:12 AM11/15/12
to
In article <1518534.HEW0nf4Ff3@Dharma>,
hosts and even offered stress reduction advice to them while Da Lama's
In article <5569981.WgQA62Ev4j@Dharma>,
In article <3042255.pTWfGjmum1@Dharma>,
Instead of helping to establish guidelines and a suicide-prevention
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>lo yeeOn wrote:
>
>> Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as
>> he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction
>> recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people.
>
>Hahahaha :-)
>
>Love, Peter
>lo yeeOn wrote:
>
>> Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as
>> he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction
>> recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people.
>
>Hahahaha :-)
>
>Love, Peter
It is indeed quite laughable to see that Da Lama flew a thousand miles
over to Japan, performed all kinds of frivolous ceremonies for his
hosts and even offered stress reduction advice to them while Da Lama's
own "people" were left behind in Tibet and also Dharamsala agonizing
over his absence. So much so that even 15 or 16 year olds who have
never seen Da Lama in their tender lives were allegedly so freaked out
as to have committed the ritual seppuku, errrh, Da Lama's preferred
version of ritual suicide by fire that is kind of equivalent to the
Japanese grisly seppuku, at least according to the TGIE's own sources.
I think there must have been some kind of unforgivable abuse in the
idea of reincarnation over there in Da Lama land. I am pretty sure
that the original Buddha did not receive an epiphany that told him to
tell his disciples that you have reincarnation for free, no more what
you have done to your own sacred life. I mean, life is so sacred that
when you ritualistically destroy it, you ought not have a second life
or a second chance for one, even if it were only something as low as
that of an earthworm! Why, because your mother who had not destroyed
her own so that she could give birth to you and did so with a great
deal of birth pain typically only ended up being an earthworm, at
least according to Da Lama and his high priests. So it would be
totally unfair and anti-karmic that she ended up only the way you
worthless scum would end up, who has wantonly destroyed the life she
gave you at a click of your cigarette lighter.
So, not only that it is delusional for you to believe that you could
reincarnate in a place of your own choosing, it is more likely that
you would never be reborn and never would have a chance to see
over his absence. So much so that even 15 or 16 year olds who have
never seen Da Lama in their tender lives were allegedly so freaked out
as to have committed the ritual seppuku, errrh, Da Lama's preferred
version of ritual suicide by fire that is kind of equivalent to the
Japanese grisly seppuku, at least according to the TGIE's own sources.
I think there must have been some kind of unforgivable abuse in the
idea of reincarnation over there in Da Lama land. I am pretty sure
that the original Buddha did not receive an epiphany that told him to
tell his disciples that you have reincarnation for free, no more what
you have done to your own sacred life. I mean, life is so sacred that
when you ritualistically destroy it, you ought not have a second life
or a second chance for one, even if it were only something as low as
that of an earthworm! Why, because your mother who had not destroyed
her own so that she could give birth to you and did so with a great
deal of birth pain typically only ended up being an earthworm, at
least according to Da Lama and his high priests. So it would be
totally unfair and anti-karmic that she ended up only the way you
worthless scum would end up, who has wantonly destroyed the life she
gave you at a click of your cigarette lighter.
So, not only that it is delusional for you to believe that you could
reincarnate in a place of your own choosing, it is more likely that
you would never be reborn and never would have a chance to see
>> Da Lama wants dialog (with China) while hobnobbing with Japan's extremists
>> - remember Yukio Mishima and his ilk and their seppuku rituals - think
>> self-immolations for Da Lama's ignorant extremist followers - Da Lama has
>> - remember Yukio Mishima and his ilk and their seppuku rituals - think
>> self-immolations for Da Lama's ignorant extremist followers - Da Lama has
network, the kind of work Da Lama should be ready to offer as a form
of charity, especially when he charges western celebrities or exotic
faith seekers a lot of money for his advice, he has been sitting on
his fat ass and pointing a finger at the Chinese government, the party
he and his TGIE (Tibetan Government in Exile) have alternately begged
and screamed at to negotiate for a form of "genuine" autonomy for
Tibet under Chinese sovereignty.
By making virulent accusations at the party you purportedly want to
negotiate with, you make meaningful negotiation impossible. And so
you stall the negotiation and exacerbate the suffering of your
followers who have hung their hope on your leadership and dimplomacy.
And by obscuring how China's sovereignty over Tibet should interact
with your idea of a "genuine" autonomy, you have made your negotiating
position impossible to decipher and settlement impossible to reach.
Meanwhile, you go to Japan for 12 days, clearly with the intention to
coincide your presence in Japan with the Chinese leadership transfer
that has been taking place in Beijing. And you volunteered yourself
to talk about the islands hotly disputed between China and Japan.
How do you think the injection of yourself into the debate of those
islands helps you further your TGIE representative's position
of charity, especially when he charges western celebrities or exotic
faith seekers a lot of money for his advice, he has been sitting on
his fat ass and pointing a finger at the Chinese government, the party
he and his TGIE (Tibetan Government in Exile) have alternately begged
and screamed at to negotiate for a form of "genuine" autonomy for
Tibet under Chinese sovereignty.
By making virulent accusations at the party you purportedly want to
negotiate with, you make meaningful negotiation impossible. And so
you stall the negotiation and exacerbate the suffering of your
followers who have hung their hope on your leadership and dimplomacy.
And by obscuring how China's sovereignty over Tibet should interact
with your idea of a "genuine" autonomy, you have made your negotiating
position impossible to decipher and settlement impossible to reach.
Meanwhile, you go to Japan for 12 days, clearly with the intention to
coincide your presence in Japan with the Chinese leadership transfer
that has been taking place in Beijing. And you volunteered yourself
to talk about the islands hotly disputed between China and Japan.
How do you think the injection of yourself into the debate of those
lo yeeOn
Nov 15, 2012, 3:58:46 AM11/15/12
to
In article <15557373.Ld87JTLQuA@Dharma>,
CCP has spoken the truth. That's win-win for the goodness of mankind.
I have contended that the CCP has a lot of credibility. Now you "Hard
Yards" have helped confirmed my thesis (see attachment below).
Thank you so much!
lo yeeOn
----------------------------------------------------------------------
hosts and even offered stress reduction advice to them while Da Lama's
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>lo yeeOn wrote:
>
>> Da Lama is phony, speaking with a forked tongue.
>
>Yes we know the rhetoric of the CCP.
Good! It is a truth. So if it is "the rhetoric of the CCP", then the
>lo yeeOn wrote:
>
>> Da Lama is phony, speaking with a forked tongue.
>
>Yes we know the rhetoric of the CCP.
CCP has spoken the truth. That's win-win for the goodness of mankind.
I have contended that the CCP has a lot of credibility. Now you "Hard
Yards" have helped confirmed my thesis (see attachment below).
Thank you so much!
lo yeeOn
----------------------------------------------------------------------
>lo yeeOn wrote:
>
>> Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as
>> he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction
>> recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people.
>
>Hahahaha :-)
>
>Love, Peter
It is indeed quite laughable to see that Da Lama flew a thousand miles
over to Japan, performed all kinds of frivolous ceremonies for his
>
>> Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as
>> he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction
>> recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people.
>
>Hahahaha :-)
>
>Love, Peter
It is indeed quite laughable to see that Da Lama flew a thousand miles
hosts and even offered stress reduction advice to them while Da Lama's
own "people" were left behind in Tibet and also Dharamsala agonizing
over his absence. So much so that even 15 or 16 year olds who have
never seen Da Lama in their tender lives were allegedly so freaked out
as to have committed the ritual seppuku, errrh, Da Lama's preferred
version of ritual suicide by fire that is kind of equivalent to the
Japanese grisly seppuku, at least according to the TGIE's own sources.
I think there must have been some kind of unforgivable abuse in the
idea of reincarnation over there in Da Lama land. I am pretty sure
that the original Buddha did not receive an epiphany that told him to
tell his disciples that you have reincarnation for free, no more what
you have done to your own sacred life. I mean, life is so sacred that
when you ritualistically destroy it, you ought not have a second life
or a second chance for one, even if it were only something as low as
that of an earthworm! Why, because your mother who had not destroyed
her own so that she could give birth to you and did so with a great
deal of birth pain typically only ended up being an earthworm, at
least according to Da Lama and his high priests. So it would be
totally unfair and anti-karmic that she ended up only the way you
worthless scum would end up, who has wantonly destroyed the life she
gave you at a click of your cigarette lighter.
So, not only that it is delusional for you to believe that you could
reincarnate in a place of your own choosing, it is more likely that
you would never be reborn and never would have a chance to see
over his absence. So much so that even 15 or 16 year olds who have
never seen Da Lama in their tender lives were allegedly so freaked out
as to have committed the ritual seppuku, errrh, Da Lama's preferred
version of ritual suicide by fire that is kind of equivalent to the
Japanese grisly seppuku, at least according to the TGIE's own sources.
I think there must have been some kind of unforgivable abuse in the
idea of reincarnation over there in Da Lama land. I am pretty sure
that the original Buddha did not receive an epiphany that told him to
tell his disciples that you have reincarnation for free, no more what
you have done to your own sacred life. I mean, life is so sacred that
when you ritualistically destroy it, you ought not have a second life
or a second chance for one, even if it were only something as low as
that of an earthworm! Why, because your mother who had not destroyed
her own so that she could give birth to you and did so with a great
deal of birth pain typically only ended up being an earthworm, at
least according to Da Lama and his high priests. So it would be
totally unfair and anti-karmic that she ended up only the way you
worthless scum would end up, who has wantonly destroyed the life she
gave you at a click of your cigarette lighter.
So, not only that it is delusional for you to believe that you could
reincarnate in a place of your own choosing, it is more likely that
you would never be reborn and never would have a chance to see
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