Marine Corps General blasts top officials
Harry Hope
The comments by Lt. Gen. James T. Conway, made shortly after he
relinquished command of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force on Sunday,
amounted to a stinging broadside against top U.S. military and
civilian leaders who ordered the Fallujah invasion and withdrawal.
He echoed an argument made by many Iraqi politicians and American
analysts -- that the U.S. attack further radicalized a restive city,
leading many residents to support the insurgents.
"When we were told to attack Fallujah, I think we certainly increased
the level of animosity that existed," Conway said.
He would not say where the order to attack originated, only that he
received an order from his superior at the time, Army Lt. Gen. Ricardo
Sanchez, the overall commander of U.S. forces in Iraq.
Some senior U.S. officials in Iraq have said the command originated in
the White House.
"We follow our orders," Conway said.
"We had our say, and we understood the rationale, and we saluted
smartly, and we went about the attack."
From The Washington Post, 9/13/04:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16309-2004Sep12.html
By Rajiv Chandrasekaran
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, September 13, 2004; Page A17
FALLUJAH, Iraq --
The outgoing U.S. Marine Corps general in charge of western Iraq said
Sunday he opposed a Marine assault on militants in the volatile city
of Fallujah in April and the subsequent decision to withdraw from the
city and turn over control to a security force of former Iraqi
soldiers.
That security force, known as the Fallujah Brigade, was formally
disbanded last week.
Not only did the brigade fail to combat militants, it actively aided
them, surrendering weapons, vehicles and radios to the insurgents,
according to senior Marine officers.
Some brigade members even participated in attacks on Marines ringing
the city, the officers said.
The comments by Lt. Gen. James T. Conway, made shortly after he
relinquished command of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force on Sunday,
amounted to a stinging broadside against top U.S. military and
civilian leaders who ordered the Fallujah invasion and withdrawal.
His statements also provided the most detailed explanation -- and
justification -- of Marine actions in Fallujah this spring, which have
been widely criticized for increasing insurgent activity in the city
and turning it into a "no-go" zone for U.S. troops.
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A screwup which is only a part of the massive George W. Bush-created
Iraq fiasco.
Harry
KERRYtheFORGER
Anthony Nelson
> ...........And Kerry and his band of forgers only care about Vietnam.
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ordinary leave:
Authorized absence from assigned duty. Military personnel accrue leave
credit at the rate of 2 1/2 calendar days for each month of active
service. See also emergency leave.
If you miss an assignment without proper authorization, you are AWOL.
Leave is not vacation, Emu. Get it? If a reservist/guardsman gets
orders to to attend a ten minute meeting, and misses it without
authorization, he is considered AWOL for the ten minutes, and is subject
to the penalties set forth in the UCMJ Sec 866 Art 86:
866. ART. 86. ABSENCE WITHOUT LEAVE
Any member of the armed forces who, without authority--
(1) fails to go to his appointed place of duty at the time prescribed;
(2) goes from that place; or
(3) absents himself or remains absent from his unit, organization, or
place of duty at which he is required to be at the time prescribed;
shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
Chief
@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:
> ...........And Kerry and his band of forgers only care about Vietnam.
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OOweee such a smarty pants. Clinton was the cause of the Iraq problems -
right dimwit?
ZenIsWhen
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"Harry Hope" <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:te8bk09t8t098n3o6...@4ax.com...
>
> The comments by Lt. Gen. James T. Conway, made shortly after he
> relinquished command of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force on Sunday,
> amounted to a stinging broadside against top U.S. military and
> civilian leaders who ordered the Fallujah invasion and withdrawal.
>
> He echoed an argument made by many Iraqi politicians and American
> analysts -- that the U.S. attack further radicalized a restive city,
> leading many residents to support the insurgents.
>
> "When we were told to attack Fallujah, I think we certainly increased
> the level of animosity that existed," Conway said.
Kind of like what happened when we illegally invaded Iraq.
Julian D.
wrote:
Imagine if the attack went forward? We'd have the self-hating
American libs decrying it.
JD
"I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things"-
-Dan Rather
February 17, 2004
At Sunday night's Democratic debate in Milwaukee, Mr. Kerry dismissed the
charge by DNC Chairman Terry McAuliffe that Mr. Bush was AWOL - absent
without leave - when he was required to report to the Alabama Air National
Guard in 1972.
"I have suggested that some people who are my advocates who've gone on
that line of attack, it's not one that I plan to do, it's not one I have
[done]," the Massachusetts senator said. "I've asked them not to."
Asked whether the DNC will heed Mr. Kerry's call to drop accusations
that Mr. Bush was AWOL, spokesman Tony Welch said, "the White House did more
to advance this than anyone else" and that Mr. McAuliffe stands by his
position.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040216-110311-3442r.htm
Kerry: Iraq Is Part Of The War On Terror
CNN
Wolf Blitzer Reports
http://snipurl.com/8x9e
KERRY: "Today marks a tragic milestone in the war in Iraq. More
than 1,000 of America's sons and daughters have now given their
lives on behalf of their country, on behalf of freedom in the
war on terror. I think that the first thing that every American
wants to say today is how deeply we each feel the loss."
"Critics of the war on terrorism don’t seem to understand: someone is trying to kill them."
-Jonathan Alter
NEWSWEEK
Julian D.
<ZenI...@anywhere.com> wrote:
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>"Harry Hope" <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>news:te8bk09t8t098n3o6...@4ax.com...
>>
>> The comments by Lt. Gen. James T. Conway, made shortly after he
>> relinquished command of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force on Sunday,
>> amounted to a stinging broadside against top U.S. military and
>> civilian leaders who ordered the Fallujah invasion and withdrawal.
>>
>> He echoed an argument made by many Iraqi politicians and American
>> analysts -- that the U.S. attack further radicalized a restive city,
>> leading many residents to support the insurgents.
>>
>> "When we were told to attack Fallujah, I think we certainly increased
>> the level of animosity that existed," Conway said.
>
>Kind of like what happened when we illegally invaded Iraq.
What relevant, legal body ever declared now or in the future that the
invasion of Iraq was illegal?
BUSH=TERRORIST
wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:33:15 -0400, "ZenIsWhen"
><ZenI...@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>>
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>>"Harry Hope" <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>>news:te8bk09t8t098n3o6...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> The comments by Lt. Gen. James T. Conway, made shortly after he
>>> relinquished command of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force on Sunday,
>>> amounted to a stinging broadside against top U.S. military and
>>> civilian leaders who ordered the Fallujah invasion and withdrawal.
>>>
>>> He echoed an argument made by many Iraqi politicians and American
>>> analysts -- that the U.S. attack further radicalized a restive city,
>>> leading many residents to support the insurgents.
>>>
>>> "When we were told to attack Fallujah, I think we certainly increased
>>> the level of animosity that existed," Conway said.
>>
>>Kind of like what happened when we illegally invaded Iraq.
>
>
>What relevant, legal body ever declared now or in the future that the
>invasion of Iraq was illegal?
Like the US government is going to ever admit they illegally invaded,
yeah right.
I don't need a corrupted government to declare something illegal for
it to be illegal. I have a brain which I use to think for myself. Try
it sometime, you might even discover how valuable an asset it can
actually be.
Julian D.
wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 17:06:39 -0400, Julian D. <ju...@ersatz.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:33:15 -0400, "ZenIsWhen"
>><ZenI...@anywhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
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>>>"Harry Hope" <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>>>news:te8bk09t8t098n3o6...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> The comments by Lt. Gen. James T. Conway, made shortly after he
>>>> relinquished command of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force on Sunday,
>>>> amounted to a stinging broadside against top U.S. military and
>>>> civilian leaders who ordered the Fallujah invasion and withdrawal.
>>>>
>>>> He echoed an argument made by many Iraqi politicians and American
>>>> analysts -- that the U.S. attack further radicalized a restive city,
>>>> leading many residents to support the insurgents.
>>>>
>>>> "When we were told to attack Fallujah, I think we certainly increased
>>>> the level of animosity that existed," Conway said.
>>>
>>>Kind of like what happened when we illegally invaded Iraq.
>>
>>
>>What relevant, legal body ever declared now or in the future that the
>>invasion of Iraq was illegal?
>
>Like the US government is going to ever admit they illegally invaded,
>yeah right.
The question wasn't limited to the US government.
What ANY relevant, legal body will ever declare the invasion of Iraq
illegal? Or even suggest it?