Equality California Petition - Rescind Warren's Invitation
Lars Eighner
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Action Center - Equality California
Demand Obama to Rescind Invitation to Rick Warren
It is appalling that President-elect Barack Obama would invite
California Pastor Rev. Rick Warren, an ardent supporter of Prop 8 and
someone who is opposed to the equality of LGBT Americans, to give the
invocation at his inauguration.
Demand President-elect Obama immediately rescind this invitation:
We, the undersigned, demand that you revoke the invitation of
California Pastor Rev. Rick Warren due to his opposition to equality
for LGBT Americans and his active support of Proposition 8 which
eliminated the right of same-sex couples to civil marriage in
California and wrote discrimination into the California
Constitution.
Take Action
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Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> use...@larseighner.com
Bush's third term begins Jan. 20th with an invocation by Rick Warren.
Obama: No hope; No change; More of the Same.
Globalist
> Sign the petition at Equity California:
>
> Action Center - Equality California
>
> Demand Obama to Rescind Invitation to Rick Warren
>
> It is appalling that President-elect Barack Obama would invite
> California Pastor Rev. Rick Warren, an ardent supporter of Prop 8 and
> someone who is opposed to the equality of LGBT Americans, to give the
> invocation at his inauguration.
>
> Demand President-elect Obama immediately rescind this invitation:
>
> We, the undersigned, demand that you revoke the invitation of
> California Pastor Rev. Rick Warren due to his opposition to equality
> for LGBT Americans and his active support of Proposition 8 which
> eliminated the right of same-sex couples to civil marriage in
> California and wrote discrimination into the California
> Constitution.
>
> Take Action
>
> --
> Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> use...@larseighner.com
> Bush's third term begins Jan. 20th with an invocation by Rick Warren.
> Obama: No hope; No change; More of the Same.
Dear Lars,
If you really comprehended Obama's message all along,he has no
intention of creating division. He is trying to get folks to work
together and get rid of the divisiveness we have lived with for 8
years. Do you think Michelle Obama conducted gay committee meetings
at the Democratic Convention for nothing? Gays have to start to be
inclusive, even with assholes. Being polite to assholes does not mean
you agree with them. Obama has made it very clear he does not agree
with Rev Warren. That is on record. This is merely a gesture of
'inclusion'. The main minister and the final benediction will be by
Rev Joseph Echols Lowery, a peer of Martin Luther King, an icon...that
will be fantastic and dramatic. You need to go with the flow...we
have gay senators, mayors, a new gay Secretary of the Navy and a gay
marching band at the inauguration. A protest before the inauguration ,
to me, indicates, you guys are not willing to work along with Obama.
This is a national party, a celebration, fun, pure entertainment. It
is a celebration of the progress made by blacks. It's THEIR DAY.
It's a milestone and if you become a party pooper, that won't keep the
rest of us from celebrating. I think it will be a big mistake to
throw cold water on a party.
Lars Eighner
<6a53e2da-5ef8-4693...@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, the
lovely and talented Globalist broadcast on alt.politics:
No. She did it for the votes, knowing full well those voters would be
betrayed at the first opportunity.
> Gays have to start to be inclusive, even with assholes. Being polite to
> assholes does not mean you agree with them.
Being polite doesn't mean they have to set the theme for the inauguration.
> Obama has made it very clear he does not agree with Rev Warren.
Obama's been on both of many issues.
> That is on record. This is merely a gesture of 'inclusion'.
Why not have David Duke? That would be even more inclusive. If you are
willing to throw away other people's civil rights as happily as throw away
gay people's you could include everyone.
> The main minister and the final benediction will be by
> Rev Joseph Echols Lowery, a peer of Martin Luther King, an icon...that
> will be fantastic and dramatic. You need to go with the flow...we
> have gay senators, mayors, a new gay Secretary of the Navy and a gay
> marching band at the inauguration.
And we have Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court. Wasn't that grand.
Tokenism is not civil rights. It isn't even close.
> A protest before the inauguration , to me, indicates, you guys are not
> willing to work along with Obama.
Betrayal right out of the starting gate does not suggest there is anything
to work with.
> This is a national party, a celebration, fun, pure entertainment. It is a
> celebration of the progress made by blacks. It's THEIR DAY. It's a
> milestone and if you become a party pooper, that won't keep the rest of us
> from celebrating. I think it will be a big mistake to throw cold water on
> a party.
I wonder what Dr. King would say about celebrating the rights of one qroup
by stepping on the rights of others. Is this his dream?
Globalist
> In our last episode,
> <6a53e2da-5ef8-4693-b617-670888042...@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, the
Obviously you have entirely missed what Obama means by "change"...for
8 fuckn years we have lived in division.....Obama is saying there is a
way out of this. It will appear to every special interest group that
he is betraying them. Rome was not built in a day. He is very
practical and said before all this..that "I am going to be
disappointing a lot of folks , because you have to start somewhere".
I never did expect miracles from him. I am merely happy as a lark
that the stupid son of bitch ,war criminal is gone. It was the black
communities who broke loose the rights of women, gays etc. Women still
have their issues,but they have MLK to thank for getting this far.
The black communities had a lead on us. They wised up and got
organized politically and the gays are not that far behind. Radical
changes have happened. Could you even imagine a gay bishop or a gay
senator or a gay mayor even a few years ago. The very fact that gay
marriages are being discussed is radical as hell. Blacks are totally
in disbelief that a there is a black president. The older blacks are
still in disbelief. There never thought this would happen in their
life time.
Lars Eighner
<cb6e528b-70b6-428f...@u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, the
Crushing human rights was Bush way. Obama's way is no change.
> It will appear to every special interest group that he is betraying them.
Civil rights is not a special interest.
> Rome was not built in a day.
Oh, the go-slow thing. How long has it been since civil rights foes used
that.
> He is very practical and said before all this..that "I am going to be
> disappointing a lot of folks , because you have to start somewhere". I
> never did expect miracles from him.
It would take a miracle for Obama not to make things worse.
> marriages are being discussed is radical as hell. Blacks are totally
> in disbelief that a there is a black president. The older blacks are
> still in disbelief. There never thought this would happen in their
> life time.
More go-slow stuff. You bigots may change your targets, but you never
change your tactics.
Gandalf Grey
"Globalist" <free....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I think you're wasting your time on Lars. He's an all or nothing type.
Just as bad on the left as it is on the right.
Lars Eighner
lovely and talented Gandalf Grey broadcast on alt.politics:
> I think you're wasting your time on Lars. He's an all or nothing type.
Equality *is* an all or nothing proposition. There is no such thing as 'a
little bit equal' or 'mostly equal.' There is equality and inequality, and
there is no halfway.
Tim Crowley
> Sign the petition at Equity California:
>
> Action Center - Equality California
>
> Demand Obama to Rescind Invitation to Rick Warren
>
> It is appalling that President-elect Barack Obama would invite
> California Pastor Rev. Rick Warren, an ardent supporter of Prop 8 and
> someone who is opposed to the equality of LGBT Americans, to give the
> invocation at his inauguration.
>
> Demand President-elect Obama immediately rescind this invitation:
>
> We, the undersigned, demand that you revoke the invitation of
> California Pastor Rev. Rick Warren due to his opposition to equality
> for LGBT Americans and his active support of Proposition 8 which
> eliminated the right of same-sex couples to civil marriage in
> California and wrote discrimination into the California
> Constitution.
>
> Take Action
Naw. I support 100% equality for gays. I totally support the rights
of all to get married. I also don't think we get there by
division. I don't agree with Rev Warren, but I can listen to him
speak. His being wrong, out in public - makes it more clear to
everyone that he's wrong. Full civil rights for gays are coming to
America. It's taken waaaaaaaay too long, but it won't come quicker by
signing on line petitions to silence someone we disagree with.
jose el fontanero
>
> - Show quoted text -
Gays in America have had full civil rights for years.
Unlike those of color, gays have not had to endure
prejudice, second class citizenship, apartheid and
slavery. Gayness is not an obvious attribute like
skin color.
Lars Eighner
<1a6c2c62-7cd3-4429...@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, the
lovely and talented jose el fontanero broadcast on alt.politics:
A lie.
> Unlike those of color, gays have not had to endure
> prejudice, second class citizenship, apartheid and
> slavery.
Just the burning at the stake stuff, and long before Europeans knew there
were people of color.
> Gayness is not an obvious attribute like
> skin color.
Probably a larger percentage of gay people can pass, but many cannot.
Tim Crowley
No. You are wrong. They still don't have full civil rights.
jose el fontanero
> In our last episode,
> <1a6c2c62-7cd3-4429-a80b-8a68d499d...@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, the
Name a civil right you have been denied.
>
> > Unlike those of color, gays have not had to endure
> > prejudice, second class citizenship, apartheid and
> > slavery.
>
> Just the burning at the stake stuff, and long before Europeans knew there
> were people of color.
>
> > Gayness is not an obvious attribute like
> > skin color.
>
> Probably a larger percentage of gay people can pass, but many cannot.
>
> --
> Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> use...@larseighner.com
> Bush's third term begins Jan. 20th with an invocation by Rick Warren.
> Obama: No hope; No change; More of the Same.- Hide quoted text -
Tim Crowley
>
> Name a civil right you have been denied.
>
>
It's so cute when bigots play dumb.
hint: read a paper, troll.
Yes Obama Did
"jose el fontanero" <josef...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Fourth amendment for one.
Lars Eighner
and talented Yes Obama Did broadcast on alt.politics:
I am sixty years old and have lived 56 of those years in Texas.
When I was a gay boy in the Houston public schools, the penalty for
homosexuality was life in prison. A gay boy my age was grabbed off his
bicycle and stuffed in a refridgerator - when there were no magnetic latches
and no way to escape from the inside. I been been told two men could not
rent a one-bedroom apartment. I've been told an assault on me would not be
investigated because as an obvious queer, I must have been soliciting. I
have been denied the right to marry on account of my sex. I've been told
'We don't serve your kind,' 'We don't hire your kind,' and 'We only promote
family men.' I've been required to repeat prayers and oaths under penalty of
expulsion from public schools. I can't think of a single civil right that I
haven't been denied at one time or another.
Whare are you from that you can pretend you didn't know that this stuff goes
on?
Drugged-Up Wasilla Redneck
What the hell, let's extend an invitation to David Duke while we're at it. After
all, he just represents another opinion, and we want to build a bridge to all
those nice folks who subscribe to his point of view. And why stop at Rick
Warren? How about the Right Reverend Phelps? And, we'd be remiss, and downright
rude if we didn't invite Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter, because we're the 'big
tent' party where all opinions are welcome. Just because they don't agree with
us doesn't make them baaaad. I think it's change enough that Barack is a
Democrat and a black man--we want to ease into this for fear of offending our
brethren on the Right. Maybe we can reverse some of the damage that the Right
wing has done to our country in the second 4 years.
Who needs Feingold when we have Feinstein? We need to put "special interest
groups" like human rights advocates, rule-of-law advocates, constitutionalists,
and other Far-Left kooks in their places. They should take the cue Obama's
deputy, and member of the inauguration committee, Steny Hoyer, and "Pipe down."
I mean, shit, we said "change" but we just meant change of color, right?
Drugged-Up Wasilla Redneck
"Lars Eighner" <use...@larseighner.com> wrote in message
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Look at the names in the inauguration committee: Feinstein, Hoyer, Reid, Pelosi,
Bennett, Boner... A veritable 'who's who' of (coff coff) progressives.
Is this a portent of what to expect in the next 4? One would think they could
spare a place or two for members of the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party.
jose el fontanero
wrote:
> "Globalist" <free.tun...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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By change Obamas meant what would be left in our pockets
after he implements his ideological preferences on the
country. Che must be so proud of Obama.