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National Public Radio
As 2013 Begins, A 'Pretty Positive' Job Outlook
by MARILYN GEEWAX
January 04, 2013 2:39 PM
If you're searching for work in this new year, the Labor Department's
final jobs report for 2012 suggests: The trend is your friend in 2013.
The jobs outlook is actually "pretty positive," said John Challenger,
chief executive officer of Challenger, Gray & Christmas, an employment
consulting firm.
Challenger said that, after 34 straight months of job growth, the
positive trend is well established and likely to continue. The Labor
Department said Friday that in December, employers added 155,000 jobs,
in line with economists' forecasts. Though the pace is less than
robust, its steadiness is reassuring, especially given recent events,
he said.
As 2012 wound down, the economy had to absorb the impact of both
Hurricane Sandy and the fiscal-cliff uncertainty in Washington. And
yet economists don't see much evidence that either the winds from the
Atlantic Ocean or the hot air from Capitol Hill were strong enough to
blow out the recovery.
"When we look back over the last 12 months, we see it's not much
different from 2011," said Nigel Gault, chief U.S. economist with IHS
Global Insight, a forecasting firm. That steadiness represents
"moderate improvement" in the U.S. economy, he said.
"It's disappointing compared with previous recoveries" when jobs
snapped back more quickly, Gault noted. But the pace has been good
enough to suggest that in 2013, many job seekers will land paychecks,
he said.
Challenger agreed, and spotted another good sign: "Layoffs have been
really light lately." Challenger agreed, and spotted another good
sign: "Layoffs have been really light lately."
"Companies did a lot of heavy cutting in the recession, but now they
are holding onto their people," Challenger said. "If you are in a job
today, you are relatively safe."
In the year ahead, many of those current job holders will retire as
large numbers of baby boomers age out of the workforce, he said. "The
outlook is better than people give it credit for because the boomers
are retiring," he said.
Both Challenger and Gault agreed that in the new year, the health-care
sector will continue its role as the top job generator. The Labor
Department said that in December, employers added 45,000 medical-
related jobs.
"Health care, as usual, was one good place to be in 2012," Gault said.
The leisure and hospitality industries also have been growing, with
restaurants and drinking places adding 38,000 workers last month.
"These aren't high-paying jobs," Gault said. "But they do reflect the
economic recovery. People felt they could afford to spend a little
more money" on eating out and taking vacations, he said.
Challenger said that besides health-care workers and waiters, the
people with good prospects in 2013 include people with "core" skills,
like accountants and engineers, and blue-collar workers who have been
trained as welders, pipe fitters and truck drivers.
The Labor Department report showed that over both 2011 and 2012,
monthly job increases averaged 153,000. In December, the unemployment
rate held steady at 7.8 percent — the same as the November rate,
following a tenth-of-a-point upward revision.
The pace of improvement may feel painfully slow for the more than 12
million people still seeking work in the aftermath of the Great
Recession. But it's been fast enough to whittle down the jobless rate
from its October 2009 peak of 10 percent.
Challenger urges job seekers to stay optimistic. "This was a deep and
difficult recession, so it's taking a long time to pull out of it," he
said. "But we're plodding along."
-- http://www.npr.org/2013/01/04/168566715/as-2013-begins-a-pretty-positive-job-outlook
As 2013 Begins, A 'Pretty Positive' Job Outlook
by MARILYN GEEWAX
January 04, 2013 2:39 PM
If you're searching for work in this new year, the Labor Department's
final jobs report for 2012 suggests: The trend is your friend in 2013.
The jobs outlook is actually "pretty positive," said John Challenger,
chief executive officer of Challenger, Gray & Christmas, an employment
consulting firm.
Challenger said that, after 34 straight months of job growth, the
positive trend is well established and likely to continue. The Labor
Department said Friday that in December, employers added 155,000 jobs,
in line with economists' forecasts. Though the pace is less than
robust, its steadiness is reassuring, especially given recent events,
he said.
As 2012 wound down, the economy had to absorb the impact of both
Hurricane Sandy and the fiscal-cliff uncertainty in Washington. And
yet economists don't see much evidence that either the winds from the
Atlantic Ocean or the hot air from Capitol Hill were strong enough to
blow out the recovery.
"When we look back over the last 12 months, we see it's not much
different from 2011," said Nigel Gault, chief U.S. economist with IHS
Global Insight, a forecasting firm. That steadiness represents
"moderate improvement" in the U.S. economy, he said.
"It's disappointing compared with previous recoveries" when jobs
snapped back more quickly, Gault noted. But the pace has been good
enough to suggest that in 2013, many job seekers will land paychecks,
he said.
Challenger agreed, and spotted another good sign: "Layoffs have been
really light lately." Challenger agreed, and spotted another good
sign: "Layoffs have been really light lately."
"Companies did a lot of heavy cutting in the recession, but now they
are holding onto their people," Challenger said. "If you are in a job
today, you are relatively safe."
In the year ahead, many of those current job holders will retire as
large numbers of baby boomers age out of the workforce, he said. "The
outlook is better than people give it credit for because the boomers
are retiring," he said.
Both Challenger and Gault agreed that in the new year, the health-care
sector will continue its role as the top job generator. The Labor
Department said that in December, employers added 45,000 medical-
related jobs.
"Health care, as usual, was one good place to be in 2012," Gault said.
The leisure and hospitality industries also have been growing, with
restaurants and drinking places adding 38,000 workers last month.
"These aren't high-paying jobs," Gault said. "But they do reflect the
economic recovery. People felt they could afford to spend a little
more money" on eating out and taking vacations, he said.
Challenger said that besides health-care workers and waiters, the
people with good prospects in 2013 include people with "core" skills,
like accountants and engineers, and blue-collar workers who have been
trained as welders, pipe fitters and truck drivers.
The Labor Department report showed that over both 2011 and 2012,
monthly job increases averaged 153,000. In December, the unemployment
rate held steady at 7.8 percent — the same as the November rate,
following a tenth-of-a-point upward revision.
The pace of improvement may feel painfully slow for the more than 12
million people still seeking work in the aftermath of the Great
Recession. But it's been fast enough to whittle down the jobless rate
from its October 2009 peak of 10 percent.
Challenger urges job seekers to stay optimistic. "This was a deep and
difficult recession, so it's taking a long time to pull out of it," he
said. "But we're plodding along."
-- http://www.npr.org/2013/01/04/168566715/as-2013-begins-a-pretty-positive-job-outlook
Stormin Mormon
Jan 5, 2013, 4:57:25 PM1/5/13
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The real figures, however, reveal a much scarier statistic.
"The employment-to-population ratio is the best measure of labor market
conditions and it currently shows that there has been almost no improvement
whatsoever over the past three years," Paul Ashworth, chief North American
economist for Capital Economics, writes in a note to clients obtained by
CNN. That figure, which accounts for the proportion of working Americans
compared with the number of adults in the country, is a lot higher than 8
per cent.
For now, 58.7 per cent of American adults are working if the actual
employment-population ratio is taken into consideration, leaving about 82
million, or almost 41 per cent of people unemployed. Only 8 per cent,
however, are even interested in work, leaving 33 per cent of Americans not
only jobless — but with no desire for work.
http://rt.com/usa/news/jobs-us-employment-welfare-749/
Christopher A. Young
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"The employment-to-population ratio is the best measure of labor market
conditions and it currently shows that there has been almost no improvement
whatsoever over the past three years," Paul Ashworth, chief North American
economist for Capital Economics, writes in a note to clients obtained by
CNN. That figure, which accounts for the proportion of working Americans
compared with the number of adults in the country, is a lot higher than 8
per cent.
For now, 58.7 per cent of American adults are working if the actual
employment-population ratio is taken into consideration, leaving about 82
million, or almost 41 per cent of people unemployed. Only 8 per cent,
however, are even interested in work, leaving 33 per cent of Americans not
only jobless — but with no desire for work.
http://rt.com/usa/news/jobs-us-employment-welfare-749/
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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National Public Radio
As 2013 Begins, A 'Pretty Positive' Job Outlook
by MARILYN GEEWAX
January 04, 2013 2:39 PM
As 2013 Begins, A 'Pretty Positive' Job Outlook
by MARILYN GEEWAX
January 04, 2013 2:39 PM
Challenger said that, after 34 straight months of job growth, the
positive trend is well established and likely to continue. The Labor
--
positive trend is well established and likely to continue. The Labor
http://www.npr.org/2013/01/04/168566715/as-2013-begins-a-pretty-positive-job-outlook
Stormin Mormon
Jan 5, 2013, 5:14:16 PM1/5/13
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/12/06/us-usa-economy-jobs-idUSTRE4B437520081205
Reuters) - U.S. employers axed 533,000 jobs from payrolls in November, the
most in 34 years, as the year-old recession hammered the economy and
hardened calls for dramatic government action to restore growth.
The Labor Department said Friday the unemployment rate hit 6.7 percent last
month, the highest since 1993, which adds up to 10.3 million Americans out
of work, 2 million more than the population of New York City.
=======================
Lets see, now. Add 155k, and lose 533k. Does that mean the groundhog will
see more unemployment when he comes out of the hole?
=======================
Christopher A. Young
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www.lds.org
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http://www.npr.org/2013/01/04/168566715/as-2013-begins-a-pretty-positive-job-outlook
Reuters) - U.S. employers axed 533,000 jobs from payrolls in November, the
most in 34 years, as the year-old recession hammered the economy and
hardened calls for dramatic government action to restore growth.
The Labor Department said Friday the unemployment rate hit 6.7 percent last
month, the highest since 1993, which adds up to 10.3 million Americans out
of work, 2 million more than the population of New York City.
=======================
Lets see, now. Add 155k, and lose 533k. Does that mean the groundhog will
see more unemployment when he comes out of the hole?
=======================
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
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National Public Radio
As 2013 Begins, A 'Pretty Positive' Job Outlook
by MARILYN GEEWAX
January 04, 2013 2:39 PM
As 2013 Begins, A 'Pretty Positive' Job Outlook
by MARILYN GEEWAX
January 04, 2013 2:39 PM
The Labor
Department said Friday that in December, employers added 155,000 jobs,
in line with economists' forecasts. Though the pace is less than
robust, its steadiness is reassuring, especially given recent events,
he said.
--
Department said Friday that in December, employers added 155,000 jobs,
in line with economists' forecasts. Though the pace is less than
robust, its steadiness is reassuring, especially given recent events,
he said.
http://www.npr.org/2013/01/04/168566715/as-2013-begins-a-pretty-positive-job-outlook
Desertphile
Jan 5, 2013, 6:22:54 PM1/5/13
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Bet news of all is that my Predictions Market stock on the subject is
likely to give me over 200% return on investment!
https://www.ipredict.co.nz/app.php?do=contract_detail&contract=US.RECESSION.2013
I would sell more, but I cannot get buyers to give me a decent price.
--
Nemo me impune lacessit.
"If Rod Serling were still alive, he could do an
entire Twilight Zone episode on you." -- erschroedinger
Unum
Jan 5, 2013, 6:56:04 PM1/5/13
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On 1/5/2013 3:57 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> The real figures, however, reveal a much scarier statistic.
>
> "The employment-to-population ratio is the best measure of labor market
> conditions and it currently shows that there has been almost no improvement
> whatsoever over the past three years," Paul Ashworth, chief North American
> economist for Capital Economics, writes in a note to clients obtained by
> CNN. That figure, which accounts for the proportion of working Americans
> compared with the number of adults in the country, is a lot higher than 8
> per cent.
>
> For now, 58.7 per cent of American adults are working if the actual
> employment-population ratio is taken into consideration, leaving about 82
> million, or almost 41 per cent of people unemployed. Only 8 per cent,
> however, are even interested in work, leaving 33 per cent of Americans not
> only jobless — but with no desire for work.
> http://rt.com/usa/news/jobs-us-employment-welfare-749/
Well, you have to figure that the ever-growing elderly demographic
> The real figures, however, reveal a much scarier statistic.
>
> "The employment-to-population ratio is the best measure of labor market
> conditions and it currently shows that there has been almost no improvement
> whatsoever over the past three years," Paul Ashworth, chief North American
> economist for Capital Economics, writes in a note to clients obtained by
> CNN. That figure, which accounts for the proportion of working Americans
> compared with the number of adults in the country, is a lot higher than 8
> per cent.
>
> For now, 58.7 per cent of American adults are working if the actual
> employment-population ratio is taken into consideration, leaving about 82
> million, or almost 41 per cent of people unemployed. Only 8 per cent,
> however, are even interested in work, leaving 33 per cent of Americans not
> only jobless — but with no desire for work.
> http://rt.com/usa/news/jobs-us-employment-welfare-749/
should figure into this, don't you think? They aren't interested
in work because they are retired. So the 'number of adults' is
not relevant at all. It should be the 'number of adults of working
age'.
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
Unum
Jan 5, 2013, 6:57:54 PM1/5/13
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On 1/5/2013 4:14 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/12/06/us-usa-economy-jobs-idUSTRE4B437520081205
A report from 2008 is interesting to us now how exactly?
> Lets see, now. Add 155k, and lose 533k. Does that mean the groundhog will
> see more unemployment when he comes out of the hole?
> =======================
>
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
Maybe scientologists are smarter, hard to tell.
> http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/12/06/us-usa-economy-jobs-idUSTRE4B437520081205
A report from 2008 is interesting to us now how exactly?
> Lets see, now. Add 155k, and lose 533k. Does that mean the groundhog will
> see more unemployment when he comes out of the hole?
> =======================
>
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
JohnJohnsn
Jan 5, 2013, 7:25:45 PM1/5/13
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determined that the age of retirement where the retiree is no longer
penalized for staying in the workforce is currently 70-years-old.
There is even a push in Congress to raise that to the age where a
person is eligible to retire.
>
>> Christopher A. Young
>> Learn more about Jesus
>
> Not so sure Jesus would be happy with you Chris.
>
I doubt He'd hold you in high esteem either, "Unum."
>> Christopher A. Young
>> Learn more about Jesus
>
> Not so sure Jesus would be happy with you Chris.
>
Unum
Jan 5, 2013, 7:43:21 PM1/5/13
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uses 'American adults' as the baseline. And then 'Only 8 per cent,
however, are even interested in work'. If that's the case the
generally accepted unemployment figures seem appropriate.
>>> Christopher A. Young
>>> Learn more about Jesus
>>
>> Not so sure Jesus would be happy with you Chris.
>>
> I doubt He'd hold you in high esteem either, "Unum."
kiss my ass.
Stormin Mormon
Jan 5, 2013, 7:43:22 PM1/5/13
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I didn't ask you.....
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JohnJohnsn
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demographic" strawman, "One:" I just set it afire. :)
>
>>>> Christopher A. Young
>>>> Learn more about Jesus
>
>>> Not so sure Jesus would be happy with you Chris.
>
>> I doubt He'd hold you in high esteem either, "Unum."
>
> I don't really care what you think 'JohnJohnsn'
>
That's OK, "One:" we don't care what trolls like you think anyway:
>>>> Christopher A. Young
>>>> Learn more about Jesus
>
>>> Not so sure Jesus would be happy with you Chris.
>
>> I doubt He'd hold you in high esteem either, "Unum."
>
> I don't really care what you think 'JohnJohnsn'
>
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Unum
Jan 5, 2013, 8:07:10 PM1/5/13
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>> uses 'American adults' as the baseline. And then 'Only 8 per cent,
>> however, are even interested in work'. If that's the case the
>> generally accepted unemployment figures seem appropriate.
>>
> You're the one who erected the goal-post-moving "ever-growing elderly
> demographic" strawman, "One:" I just set it afire. :)
nothing moved. If all 'American adults' is the baseline then
its meaningless. Have fun with that.
>>>>> Christopher A. Young
>>>>> Learn more about Jesus
>>
>>>> Not so sure Jesus would be happy with you Chris.
>>
>>> I doubt He'd hold you in high esteem either, "Unum."
>>
>> I don't really care what you think 'JohnJohnsn'
>>
> That's OK, "One:" we don't care what trolls like you think anyway:
Unum
Jan 5, 2013, 8:40:24 PM1/5/13
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On 1/5/2013 6:43 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> I didn't ask you.....
>
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
Maybe you better learn more about Jesus.
> I didn't ask you.....
>
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
Gunner
Jan 6, 2013, 1:36:05 AM1/6/13
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>Challenger said that, after 34 straight months of job growth, the
>positive trend is well established and likely to continue.
Really? The Christmas season temporary job hires will last through
>positive trend is well established and likely to continue.
January?
Really?
>The Labor
>Department said Friday that in December, employers added 155,000 jobs,
>in line with economists' forecasts. Though the pace is less than
>robust, its steadiness is reassuring, especially given recent events,
>he said.
http://portalseven.com/employment/unemployment_rate_u6.jsp
Gunner
The methodology of the left has always been:
1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie
Mr.B1ack
Jan 6, 2013, 2:45:24 AM1/6/13
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All 'jobs' are not equal. If you built up debts
based on your 2007 income ... then 2013 wages are
NOT gonna cover it.
based on your 2007 income ... then 2013 wages are
NOT gonna cover it.
Desertphile
Jan 6, 2013, 1:23:31 PM1/6/13
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 16:57:25 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The real figures, however, reveal a much scarier statistic.
How did Josepth Smith manage to dig up and carry around over 200
<cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The real figures, however, reveal a much scarier statistic.
pounds of gold plates?
Delvin Benet
Jan 6, 2013, 1:44:01 PM1/6/13
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On 1/5/2013 10:36 PM, Gunner wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 12:17:32 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone
> <mog...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Challenger said that, after 34 straight months of job growth, the
>> positive trend is well established and likely to continue.
>
> Really? The Christmas season temporary job hires will last through
> January?
gummer, showing his typically boneheaded ignorance, is unaware that the
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 12:17:32 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone
> <mog...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Challenger said that, after 34 straight months of job growth, the
>> positive trend is well established and likely to continue.
>
> Really? The Christmas season temporary job hires will last through
> January?
155,000 figure is seasonally adjusted - that is, it already takes into
account that there are seasonal hire/fire jobs for the Christmas season.
In fact, the total non-farm employment for December *fell* by 243,000
during December when not making seasonal adjustments.
http://www.examiner.com/article/an-analysis-of-the-december-jobs-report.
gummer, ignorant as a busted Taft fence post, also seems to think that
the 45,000 medical-related jobs added in December are going to evaporate.
Transition Zone
Jan 6, 2013, 4:26:54 PM1/6/13
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On Jan 5, 4:57 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
white house.
155000 Jobs Added In December, Jobless Rate At 7.8 Percent
NPR (blog) - by Mark Memmott - 2 days ago
Growth was in line with expectations and adds to the evidence that the
nation continues to add jobs at a modest pace.
-- http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/01/04/168603544/155-000-jobs-added-in-december-jobless-rate-at-7-8-percent
<cayoung61***spambl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The real figures, however, reveal a much scarier statistic.
And any of those "real" figures came with George W. Bush's republican
> The real figures, however, reveal a much scarier statistic.
white house.
155000 Jobs Added In December, Jobless Rate At 7.8 Percent
NPR (blog) - by Mark Memmott - 2 days ago
Growth was in line with expectations and adds to the evidence that the
nation continues to add jobs at a modest pace.
-- http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/01/04/168603544/155-000-jobs-added-in-december-jobless-rate-at-7-8-percent
Transition Zone
Jan 6, 2013, 4:28:13 PM1/6/13
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On Jan 5, 5:14 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61***spambl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/12/06/us-usa-economy-jobs-idUSTRE...
<cayoung61***spambl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/12/06/us-usa-economy-jobs-idUSTRE...
>
> Reuters) - U.S. employers axed 533,000 jobs from payrolls in November, the
> most in 34 years, as the year-old recession hammered the economy and
> hardened calls for dramatic government action to restore growth.
>
> The Labor Department said Friday the unemployment rate hit 6.7 percent last
> month, the highest since 1993, which adds up to 10.3 million Americans out
> of work, 2 million more than the population of New York City.
>
> =======================
>
> Lets see, now. Add 155k, and lose 533k. Does that mean the groundhog will
> see more unemployment when he comes out of the hole?
Your quote is from 2008. So its irrelevant.
> Reuters) - U.S. employers axed 533,000 jobs from payrolls in November, the
> most in 34 years, as the year-old recession hammered the economy and
> hardened calls for dramatic government action to restore growth.
>
> The Labor Department said Friday the unemployment rate hit 6.7 percent last
> month, the highest since 1993, which adds up to 10.3 million Americans out
> of work, 2 million more than the population of New York City.
>
> =======================
>
> Lets see, now. Add 155k, and lose 533k. Does that mean the groundhog will
> see more unemployment when he comes out of the hole?
Transition Zone
Jan 6, 2013, 4:29:56 PM1/6/13
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On Jan 6, 1:36 am, Gunner <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 12:17:32 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone
>
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 12:17:32 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone
>
> <mogu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Challenger said that, after 34 straight months of job growth, the
> >positive trend is well established and likely to continue.
>
>Really? The Christmas season temporary job hires will last through
> January?
>
> Really?
Why? Do you think I'm some sort of liar now?
> >Challenger said that, after 34 straight months of job growth, the
> >positive trend is well established and likely to continue.
>
>Really? The Christmas season temporary job hires will last through
> January?
>
> Really?
Too_Many_Tools
Jan 6, 2013, 4:56:19 PM1/6/13
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Rumor has it that the Republicans want to raise the age of retirement
to 127.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
Jan 6, 2013, 4:57:33 PM1/6/13
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Bet He is a AARP member.
TMT
Gunner
Jan 6, 2013, 5:12:57 PM1/6/13
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Those who ran out of the time period for unemployment insurance are
off the roles of "unemployed"
Many of the added jobs in December were for Holiday Hires and were
temporary.
Which is why we then have to look at the U6 numbers
http://portalseven.com/employment/unemployment_rate_u6.jsp
What is U6 unemployment rate ?
The U6 unemployment rate counts not only people without work seeking
full-time employment (the more familiar U-3 rate), but also counts
"marginally attached workers and those working part-time for economic
reasons." Note that some of these part-time workers counted as
employed by U-3 could be working as little as an hour a week. And the
"marginally attached workers" include those who have gotten
discouraged and stopped looking, but still want to work. The age
considered for this calculation is 16 years and over
14.4 % for November and December, down from 14.5% in October (due to
holiday hiring )
January and Febuary rates will sharply rise as the numbers come in
Gunner
Jan 6, 2013, 5:13:39 PM1/6/13
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Delvin Benet
Jan 6, 2013, 5:31:02 PM1/6/13
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On 1/6/2013 2:12 PM, Gunner wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 13:26:54 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone
> <mog...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 5, 4:57 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
>> <cayoung61***spambl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> The real figures, however, reveal a much scarier statistic.
>>
>> And any of those "real" figures came with George W. Bush's republican
>> white house.
>>
>> 155000 Jobs Added In December, Jobless Rate At 7.8 Percent
>> NPR (blog) - by Mark Memmott - 2 days ago
>> Growth was in line with expectations and adds to the evidence that the
>> nation continues to add jobs at a modest pace.
>>
>> -- http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/01/04/168603544/155-000-jobs-added-in-december-jobless-rate-at-7-8-percent
>
> Jobless rate only includes those Collecting unemployment insurance.
False. Not just false, but in fact, it's a lie.
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 13:26:54 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone
> <mog...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 5, 4:57 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
>> <cayoung61***spambl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> The real figures, however, reveal a much scarier statistic.
>>
>> And any of those "real" figures came with George W. Bush's republican
>> white house.
>>
>> 155000 Jobs Added In December, Jobless Rate At 7.8 Percent
>> NPR (blog) - by Mark Memmott - 2 days ago
>> Growth was in line with expectations and adds to the evidence that the
>> nation continues to add jobs at a modest pace.
>>
>> -- http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/01/04/168603544/155-000-jobs-added-in-december-jobless-rate-at-7-8-percent
>
> Jobless rate only includes those Collecting unemployment insurance.
The jobless rate measures the percentage of people in the labor force
who do not have jobs *and* who looked for work during the reporting
period. Very obviously - *laughably* obviously - that includes people
who do not have jobs *and* who are not collecting unemployment insurance
benefits.
gummer fucks up everything he touches. Pathological liars usually do.
E. Levant
Jan 6, 2013, 6:36:55 PM1/6/13
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Transition Zone wrote:
> National Public Radio
> As 2013 Begins, A 'Pretty Positive' Job Outlook
> by MARILYN GEEWAX
> January 04, 2013 2:39 PM
>
> If you're searching for work in this new year, the Labor Department's
> final jobs report for 2012 suggests: The trend is your friend in 2013.
More lies by the Obama controlled NPR.
> National Public Radio
> As 2013 Begins, A 'Pretty Positive' Job Outlook
> by MARILYN GEEWAX
> January 04, 2013 2:39 PM
>
> If you're searching for work in this new year, the Labor Department's
> final jobs report for 2012 suggests: The trend is your friend in 2013.
What about the thousands of tea party patriot capitalists out there
who refuse to hire people because if they do, Obama will look good?
Sabotaging the efforts to resurrect the economy since Bush left us in
such great shape back in 2008 and was replaced by Obama, has been Job
1!
Why should things change? Nobody likes hope or change.
Many Republicans who own businesses aren't hiring because they're
holding off until Chris Christie or Jeb Bush takes the Oath of Office
in 2017. Then massive debt and so on will be packed in the old kit
bag and flushed down the toilet like it was during the 8 glorious
years when Bush was in charge!
Sometimes the measure of a patriot is not though out by minions.
Think of the future!
Roy Orzabal
Jan 6, 2013, 6:47:04 PM1/6/13
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was a Jewish guy.
However, he never carried a gun, drank a lot of wine, had more male
friends than female, and she was a hooker (but there is no record of
them having sexual relations).
So that kind of makes him a Liberal.
Somehow I doubt that he was like Benny Hinn, Jimmy Swaggart, Pat
Robertson, Jim Baaker or that Pope in the Vatican who was a member of
the Hitler Jugend.
Gray Guest
Jan 6, 2013, 7:48:55 PM1/6/13
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Transition Zone <mog...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:094aaa10-0cf3-4f6e...@u13g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
> National Public Radio
> As 2013 Begins, A 'Pretty Positive' Job Outlook
> by MARILYN GEEWAX
> January 04, 2013 2:39 PM
>
> If you're searching for work in this new year, the Labor Department's
> final jobs report for 2012 suggests: The trend is your friend in 2013.
>
> The jobs outlook is actually "pretty positive," said John Challenger,
> chief executive officer of Challenger, Gray & Christmas, an employment
> consulting firm.
>
> chief executive officer of Challenger, Gray & Christmas, an employment
> consulting firm.
>
> Challenger said that, after 34 straight months of job growth, the
> positive trend is well established and likely to continue. The Labor
> Department said Friday that in December, employers added 155,000 jobs,
> in line with economists' forecasts. Though the pace is less than
> robust, its steadiness is reassuring, especially given recent events,
> he said.
>
> in line with economists' forecasts. Though the pace is less than
> robust, its steadiness is reassuring, especially given recent events,
> he said.
>
> http://www.npr.org/2013/01/04/168566715/as-2013-begins-a-pretty-positive-
> job-outlook
>
Joseph Goebells would be so proud.
--
Refusenik #1
Libs suffer from Eleutherophobia. And there is no cure.
Obama called the SEALs and THEY got bin Laden. When the SEALs called Obama,
THEY GOT DENIED. Fuck Obama
Gray Guest
Jan 6, 2013, 7:49:26 PM1/6/13
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Unum <non...@yourbusiness.com> wrote in news:kcaeio$h2n$1...@dont-email.me:
Why don't you kill yourself and ask him?
Stormin Mormon
Jan 6, 2013, 8:28:02 PM1/6/13
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So true, comrade. Sieg heil!
Christopher A. Young
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Transition Zone <mog...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:094aaa10-0cf3-4f6e...@u13g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
> National Public Radio
> As 2013 Begins, A 'Pretty Positive' Job Outlook
> by MARILYN GEEWAX
> January 04, 2013 2:39 PM
>
news:094aaa10-0cf3-4f6e...@u13g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
> National Public Radio
> As 2013 Begins, A 'Pretty Positive' Job Outlook
> by MARILYN GEEWAX
> January 04, 2013 2:39 PM
>
Fred C. Dobbs
Jan 6, 2013, 8:59:31 PM1/6/13
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What a stupid shitbag comment. Nothing in the NPR story is "propaganda."
--
Any more lip out of you and I'll haul off and let you have it...if you
know what's good for you, you won't monkey around with Fred C. Dobbs.
Unum
Jan 6, 2013, 9:22:25 PM1/6/13
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On 1/6/2013 6:49 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
> Unum <non...@yourbusiness.com> wrote in news:kcaeio$h2n$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 1/5/2013 3:57 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
>>> The real figures, however, reveal a much scarier statistic.
>>>
>>> "The employment-to-population ratio is the best measure of labor market
>>> conditions and it currently shows that there has been almost no
>>> improvement whatsoever over the past three years," Paul Ashworth, chief
>>> North American economist for Capital Economics, writes in a note to
>>> clients obtained by CNN. That figure, which accounts for the proportion
>>> of working Americans compared with the number of adults in the country,
>>> is a lot higher than 8 per cent.
>>>
>>> For now, 58.7 per cent of American adults are working if the actual
>>> employment-population ratio is taken into consideration, leaving about
>>> 82 million, or almost 41 per cent of people unemployed. Only 8 per
>>> cent, however, are even interested in work, leaving 33 per cent of
>>> Americans not only jobless � but with no desire for work.
> Unum <non...@yourbusiness.com> wrote in news:kcaeio$h2n$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 1/5/2013 3:57 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
>>> The real figures, however, reveal a much scarier statistic.
>>>
>>> "The employment-to-population ratio is the best measure of labor market
>>> conditions and it currently shows that there has been almost no
>>> improvement whatsoever over the past three years," Paul Ashworth, chief
>>> North American economist for Capital Economics, writes in a note to
>>> clients obtained by CNN. That figure, which accounts for the proportion
>>> of working Americans compared with the number of adults in the country,
>>> is a lot higher than 8 per cent.
>>>
>>> For now, 58.7 per cent of American adults are working if the actual
>>> employment-population ratio is taken into consideration, leaving about
>>> 82 million, or almost 41 per cent of people unemployed. Only 8 per
>>> cent, however, are even interested in work, leaving 33 per cent of
>>> http://rt.com/usa/news/jobs-us-employment-welfare-749/
>>
>> Well, you have to figure that the ever-growing elderly demographic
>> should figure into this, don't you think? They aren't interested
>> in work because they are retired. So the 'number of adults' is
>> not relevant at all. It should be the 'number of adults of working
>> age'.
>>
>>> Christopher A. Young
>>> Learn more about Jesus
>>
>> Not so sure Jesus would be happy with you Chris.
>>
>
> Why don't you kill yourself and ask him?
Lol, the gray asshole.
>>
>> Well, you have to figure that the ever-growing elderly demographic
>> should figure into this, don't you think? They aren't interested
>> in work because they are retired. So the 'number of adults' is
>> not relevant at all. It should be the 'number of adults of working
>> age'.
>>
>>> Christopher A. Young
>>> Learn more about Jesus
>>
>> Not so sure Jesus would be happy with you Chris.
>>
>
> Why don't you kill yourself and ask him?
Desertphile
Jan 7, 2013, 5:18:55 PM1/7/13
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Desertphile
Jan 7, 2013, 5:19:02 PM1/7/13
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pyotr filipivich
Jan 7, 2013, 5:39:45 PM1/7/13
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Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com> on Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:12:57 -0800 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
That would include me. Who is through the Unemloytment benefits,
the 401k, the IRA, the savings, the life insurance, and is
"prematurely retiring." inorder to keep the house. If'n we didn't
have widder woman with her late husband's pension, I'd be in real
hurt.
--
pyotr filipivich
Question for the gun Control advocates, "Do you agree with
this statement?"
"I would rather have a society without guns, even if it
means that people cannot defend themselves against murder
(with other weapons), rape, robbery, and assault. I would
rather make everyone defenseless than have to endure the
mass shootings that occasionally occur. If that means that
many more people, (particularly the old, the weak, and the
infirm) are subjected to these violent crimes, then so be
it. They'll just have to suffer more. I do claim the power
to dictate whether or not others are able to defend themselves."
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
the 401k, the IRA, the savings, the life insurance, and is
"prematurely retiring." inorder to keep the house. If'n we didn't
have widder woman with her late husband's pension, I'd be in real
hurt.
--
pyotr filipivich
Question for the gun Control advocates, "Do you agree with
this statement?"
"I would rather have a society without guns, even if it
means that people cannot defend themselves against murder
(with other weapons), rape, robbery, and assault. I would
rather make everyone defenseless than have to endure the
mass shootings that occasionally occur. If that means that
many more people, (particularly the old, the weak, and the
infirm) are subjected to these violent crimes, then so be
it. They'll just have to suffer more. I do claim the power
to dictate whether or not others are able to defend themselves."
Gunner
Jan 8, 2013, 6:49:52 AM1/8/13
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irons in the fire, and have been doing some small local sales of
machinery and parts..but if we didnt have 6 adults and 2 children
living here..we would be down to eating the dogs by now.
And its going to get worse for the foreseable future.
Gunner
Tom Gardner
Jan 8, 2013, 7:25:51 AM1/8/13
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On 1/8/2013 6:49 AM, Gunner wrote:
> if we didnt have 6 adults and 2 children
> living here..we would be down to eating the dogs by now.
>
> And its going to get worse for the foreseable future.
>
> Gunner
>
Have you got any good recipes...just in case? Sometimes I have a couple
> if we didnt have 6 adults and 2 children
> living here..we would be down to eating the dogs by now.
>
> And its going to get worse for the foreseable future.
>
> Gunner
>
of candidates for the stew pot! ...but then they are still pups and can
do "the face".
pyotr filipivich
Jan 8, 2013, 3:12:52 PM1/8/13
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Tom Gardner <Mars@Tacks> on Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:25:51 -0500 typed in
rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
recipes.
>Sometimes I have a couple
>of candidates for the stew pot! ...but then they are still pups and can
>do "the face".
--
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>On 1/8/2013 6:49 AM, Gunner wrote:
>
> > if we didnt have 6 adults and 2 children
>> living here..we would be down to eating the dogs by now.
>>
>> And its going to get worse for the foreseable future.
>>
>> Gunner
>
>Have you got any good recipes...just in case?
Write the White House. I'm sure the president has some boyhood
>
> > if we didnt have 6 adults and 2 children
>> living here..we would be down to eating the dogs by now.
>>
>> And its going to get worse for the foreseable future.
>>
>> Gunner
>
>Have you got any good recipes...just in case?
recipes.
>Sometimes I have a couple
>of candidates for the stew pot! ...but then they are still pups and can
>do "the face".
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
Gunner
Jan 8, 2013, 6:09:26 PM1/8/13
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On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:12:52 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Tom Gardner <Mars@Tacks> on Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:25:51 -0500 typed in
>rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>On 1/8/2013 6:49 AM, Gunner wrote:
>>
>> > if we didnt have 6 adults and 2 children
>>> living here..we would be down to eating the dogs by now.
>>>
>>> And its going to get worse for the foreseable future.
>>>
>>> Gunner
>>
>>Have you got any good recipes...just in case?
>
> Write the White House. I'm sure the president has some boyhood
>recipes.
>
>>Sometimes I have a couple
>>of candidates for the stew pot! ...but then they are still pups and can
>>do "the face".
http://www.recipesource.com/ethnic/asia/filipino/00/rec0001.html
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Tom Gardner <Mars@Tacks> on Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:25:51 -0500 typed in
>rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>On 1/8/2013 6:49 AM, Gunner wrote:
>>
>> > if we didnt have 6 adults and 2 children
>>> living here..we would be down to eating the dogs by now.
>>>
>>> And its going to get worse for the foreseable future.
>>>
>>> Gunner
>>
>>Have you got any good recipes...just in case?
>
> Write the White House. I'm sure the president has some boyhood
>recipes.
>
>>Sometimes I have a couple
>>of candidates for the stew pot! ...but then they are still pups and can
>>do "the face".
Lots more out there.
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