"What good fortune for those in power that the people do not think."
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Arm Yourself With The Weapons of Mass Education
http://top-secret-at.blogspot.com/2007/10/afghanistan-is-lost-says-lord-ashdown.html
25 October 2007
Afghanistan is lost, says Lord Ashdown
"What good fortune for those in power that the people do not think."
--Adolf Hitler
Nato has "lost in Afghanistan" and its failure to bring stability
there could provoke a regional sectarian war "on a grand scale",
according to Lord Ashdown.
The former United Nations High Representative for Bosnia and
Herzegovina delivered his dire prediction after being proposed as a
new "super envoy" role in Afghanistan.
[:..:] Lord Ashdown added: "I believe losing in Afghanistan is worse
than losing in Iraq. It will mean that Pakistan will fall and it will
have serious implications internally for the security of our own
countries and will instigate a wider Shiite [Shia], Sunni regional war
on a grand scale.
"Some people refer to the First and Second World Wars as European
civil wars and I think a similar regional civil war could be initiated
by this [failure] to match this magnitude." [:..:]
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> 25 October 2007
> Afghanistan is lost, says Lord Ashdown
>
> "What good fortune for those in power that the people do not think."
> --Adolf Hitler
>
> Nato has "lost in Afghanistan" and its failure to bring stability
> there could provoke a regional sectarian war "on a grand scale",
> according to Lord Ashdown.
>
> The former United Nations High Representative for Bosnia and
> Herzegovina delivered his dire prediction after being proposed as a
> new "super envoy" role in Afghanistan.
>
> [:..:] Lord Ashdown added: "I believe losing in Afghanistan is worse
> than losing in Iraq. It will mean that Pakistan will fall and it will
> have serious implications internally for the security of our own
> countries and will instigate a wider Shiite [Shia], Sunni regional war
> on a grand scale.
>
> "Some people refer to the First and Second World Wars as European
> civil wars and I think a similar regional civil war could be initiated
> by this [failure] to match this magnitude." [:..:]
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Hitler said it.
Cheney thinks it.
Docky Wocky
"> Nato has "lost in Afghanistan" and its failure to bring stability
> there could provoke a regional sectarian war "on a grand scale",
> according to Lord Ashdown.
>
> The former United Nations High Representative for Bosnia and
> Herzegovina delivered his dire prediction after being proposed as a
> new "super envoy" role in Afghanistan..."
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NATO simply does not possess the will to win in Afghanistan.
The same goes for the war in Iraq.
If you are in the war business, you have to have the will to win - no matter
what it takes to win.
Kevin Cunningham
Ok, so why aren't you all dressed up in your Army suit? Could it be
you never, ever served? Yeah, I think you never, ever served. Your
just another right wing chicken hawk. Happy to tell our troops to
work harder but scared to go out of your trailer.
ztc
"no matter what it takes to win" is of course the essence of the
Neocon wet dream of making BIG war all over the Middle East - then
you'd have terrorists blowing up DC, NY and LA with still missing
Soviet era suit-case nukes. The ME has already been plenty de-
stabilized by idiot Bush - thank the flying spaghetti monster his
psychotic neocon puppetmasters have been caged and neutered and can't
proceed with their suicidal plans for WW 3.
Docky Wocky
have to fall back on the only militaristic jargon they learned in liberal
boot camp: "So why aren't you all dressed up your Army suit?"
Slapping someone with that verbal purse is supposed to make their
philosophical enemies run and hide in embarrassment, I guess.
Well, boys, been there, done that. Navy, myself. That entitles me to look
bored and yawn at your terribly hurtful jibes.
Use of that nasty, nasty, over-used, liberal phraseology makes it
immediately evident that neither of youse have ever placed service to your
country before "servicing" one another down at the bus station..
I would venture you're more the diplomatic-types - men of words,
negotiations, and deals.
acmeinc
"ztc" <john...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193409356.3...@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
people are Marxist Jews and their spawn.
" ... Originally, in the context of
the United States, it referred to a
right-wing movement of former political leftists. As Michael Lind has
observed, "Most neoconservative defense intellectuals have their roots on
the left, not the right. They are products of the influential
Jewish-American sector of the Trotskyist movement of the 1930s and 1940s,
which morphed into anti-communist liberalism between the 1950s and 1970s and
finally into a kind of militaristic and imperial right with no precedents in
American culture or political history. ..." from
disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Neoconservative
Then search "global stragety councils". Follow that with "irving kristol
+marxism".
Look up informationclearinghouse.info - article5010.htm.
" ...Buying Influence
Saban was one of the major contributors to the former California governor
Gray Davis, and in return Davis appointed him to the board of regents of the
University of California. However, more recently, Saban, along with Steven
Spielberg, have shifted their loyalties to Arnold Schwarzenegger after the
new California governor's unequivocal support for Israel's latest invasion
of Lebanon ... " Haim Saban, sourcewatch.org. Another rabid zionist that
owns politicians.
Never forget the USS Liberty, Moyne, Serot and Bernadotte. Never forget
that the Jews are funding the pro-abortion movement.
David Johnston
wrote:
God that so inane. Do you seriously think that the Russians were
picky about the methods they tried in Afghanistan to put down their
opponents? How'd that work out for them?
ztc
...BIG yawn - the tired old lib-gay joke bit - that of course
entitles your betters to make Larry Craig jokes and the like -
especially seeing as you're an inherently gay-sailor boy, (doubting of
course that a squawking chickenhawk like you ever *really* served)
but those are getting pretty stale too, so we'll just leave it with:
"men of words" - very likely make a bunch more money, happiness and
true friends than bitter little hypocrite-liar, latent gays such as
you.
Baldin Lee Pramer
You have no idea what you are talking about. Some wars cannot be won
without killing the entire populace. If you are in the war business,
you have to understand what objectives can and what cannot be
achieved. Just because you start a war does not mean you obliged to
finish it.
BLP
David Johnston
<baldin...@msn.com> wrote:
>On Oct 25, 11:21 pm, "Docky Wocky" <mrch...@lst.net> wrote:
>> elmo sez:
>>
>> "> Nato has "lost in Afghanistan" and its failure to bring stability> there could provoke a regional sectarian war "on a grand scale",
>> > according to Lord Ashdown.
>>
>> > The former United Nations High Representative for Bosnia and
>> > Herzegovina delivered his dire prediction after being proposed as a
>> > new "super envoy" role in Afghanistan..."
>>
>> ______________________________
>> NATO simply does not possess the will to win in Afghanistan.
>>
>> The same goes for the war in Iraq.
>>
>> If you are in the war business, you have to have the will to win - no matter
>> what it takes to win.
>
>You have no idea what you are talking about. Some wars cannot be won
>without killing the entire populace.
Are you sure he has a problem with that?
Docky Wocky
since the beginning of humanity. Who loves a good war more than people.
I merely subscribe to the vision that this is the normal condition of
humanity, and nothing tear-jerkers have ever done has changed this starting
position one iota.