Obamas Comments On Facebook Torture Session Seem Odd

[Mr. B1ack]

Maybe it's just me, but didn't Obamas comments about
the four who tortured some retarded guy on Facebook
sound a lot like "It was all HIS fault for being white" ????

[Ted]

Many liberals do feel that way, but I doubt Obama would have let it show
(although I didn't listen to his comments).

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[Mr. B1ack]

On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:27:34 GMT, Ted <sam.m....@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mr. B1ack <now...@nada.net> wrote:
>> Maybe it's just me, but didn't Obamas comments about
>> the four who tortured some retarded guy on Facebook
>> sound a lot like "It was all HIS fault for being white" ????
>
>Many liberals do feel that way, but I doubt Obama would have let it show
>(although I didn't listen to his comments).

Find them, listen. He did not actually condemn the
torturers, instead he blathered about the "effects of
racism" - and I didn't get the impression he was
talking about the racism of BLM and associates.

[Frank]

That's the problem with most of his comments on these issues. Rather
than just condemn the miscreants he blames the society. This leads to
more social unrest and suspicions of authorities. It certainly
contributes to the racism of the BLM crowd. Makes matters worse, not
better.

[First-Post]

On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 13:10:31 -0500, Mr. B1ack <now...@nada.net>
wrote:

No surprise really. Remember when he implied that Christians were as
bad as muslims and cited the Crusades as proof?

It is still pretty mind boggling to know that the American people
actually elected someone that despises every single thing the country
is supposed to symbolize and did it twice in a row.

[Rudy Canoza]

I didn't hear or read his comments, and I'm not about to accept your
belief that they might reasonably be construed as meaning that.

Here is a site with some of Obama's comments about it, and not one of
them can possibly be construed as meaning what you said:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-live-streamed-chicago-facebook-torture-video-despicable/

Here's another, and it also doesn't contain any Obama comment that could
possibly be construed to mean what you said:
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2017/01/06/obama-chicago-torture-case-terrible-n2267879


I think you have a diseased imagination.

[Ted]

Some of us (suckers) hoped he'd diminish racial tensions and better unite
the country. Did you listen to any of his campaign rhetoric? That's what
he'd claimed he wanted.

[Ted]

Oh, then he was blaming it on white racism. Of course that's what they do.

[Ted]

Thanks for always giving us the non-partisan unbiased viewpoint, Rudy.

[Mr. B1ack]

On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 13:14:42 -0800, Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con>
wrote:

>On 1/6/2017 7:03 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
>>
>> Maybe it's just me, but didn't Obamas comments about
>> the four who tortured some retarded guy on Facebook
>> sound a lot like "It was all HIS fault for being white" ????
>
>I didn't hear or read his comments, and I'm not about to accept your
>belief that they might reasonably be construed as meaning that.

Since you didn't hear the comments you have
absolutely nothing to say on the subject.

[Rudy Canoza]

On 1/7/2017 6:43 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 13:14:42 -0800, Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/6/2017 7:03 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe it's just me, but didn't Obamas comments about
>>> the four who tortured some retarded guy on Facebook
>>> sound a lot like "It was all HIS fault for being white" ????
>>
>> I didn't hear or read his comments, and I'm not about to accept your

Restore the stuff that the shitbag unethically snipped:

>> Here is a site with some of Obama's comments about it, and not one of
>> them can possibly be construed as meaning what you said:
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-live-streamed-chicago-facebook-torture-video-despicable/
>>
>>
>> Here's another, and it also doesn't contain any Obama comment that could
>> possibly be construed to mean what you said:
>> http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2017/01/06/obama-chicago-torture-case-terrible-n2267879
>>
>>
>>
>> I think you have a diseased imagination.
>

> Since you didn't hear the comments you have
> absolutely nothing to say on the subject.

I went and found some of the comments. None of them remotely resembled
the bullshit your diseased imagination churned out. You made it up.

[Mr. B1ack]

On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 20:15:46 -0800, Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con>

Where was the condemnation of the torturers ? Nowhere.
Where was the implication that old-tyme white racism
somehow justified/caused this incident ? Everywhere.

[Rudy Canoza]

You stupid clueless shit-4-braincell cocksucker:

The attack’s cruelty and intense social media exposure prompted
President Obama to respond, calling it “despicable.”


President Obama called the Chicago torture case a “hate crime” on
Thursday.

“It’s terrible,” he said of the attack by four black teens on a
white special needs man.

Those are condemnations, cocksucker. He may not have referred to the
perpetrators as "fucking niggers" as you would wish, but he condemned
their action. Fuck off.

> Where was the implication that old-tyme white racism
> somehow justified/caused this incident ? Everywhere.

Nowhere. He never said anything that implied that. You, being a stupid
shit-4-braincell cocksucker with a diseased imagination (and AIDS),
inferred it. Fuck off, cocksucker.

[Mr. B1ack]

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:51:59 -0800, Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con>

Anything bad he said about the perps (well, what they DID
actually, not them personally) was immediately followed by
what sounds like an excuse ... basically "It was HIS fault
for being white".

Is there still time to impeach the SOB ?

[Rudy Canoza]

No. That's the very thing you can't demonstrate. He said *nothing*
like that at all. That's why you can't point to any source.

You truly have Obama Derangement Syndrome. Get help.

[Mr. B1ack]

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 21:14:49 -0800, Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con>
wrote:

>

>You truly have Obama Derangement Syndrome. Get help.

You have Obama Dependency Syndrome ... and you're
about to get cut off from your suppy. How will you live
without your daily fix of left-wing bullshit from up on high ?

I hope Trump and Pence absolutely *ruin* things for
you America-hating lefties ... make it impossible for
your ilk to ever regain any real power and influence.
Best move would be to make it extremely hard to
give away "free money" - and extremely easy to
revoke any such programs that do get implemented.
No 'free money' = no 'left' since everything else you're
selling is certified bullshit.

[Man of Mind]

On 1/9/2017 7:14 AM, Mrs. Bleak writhed in denials:

>
> I hope Trump and Pence absolutely *ruin* things for
> you America-hating lefties ... make it impossible for
> your ilk to ever regain any real power and influence.

Speaking of 'certified bullshit', the last time Republicans
had similar political 'stranglehold', the Great Depression
came about and left your partisan political ideology stranded
for decades afterward..

Hence..
--
Republicans often as not create the very problems they say
that they're trying to solve, while blaming the Democratic
Party for what they did..

[Mr. B1ack]

On Mon, 9 Jan 2017 10:18:24 -0600, Man of Mind
<baron.v...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 1/9/2017 7:14 AM, Mrs. Bleak writhed in denials:
>>
>> I hope Trump and Pence absolutely *ruin* things for
>> you America-hating lefties ... make it impossible for
>> your ilk to ever regain any real power and influence.
>
>Speaking of 'certified bullshit', the last time Republicans
>had similar political 'stranglehold', the Great Depression
>came about and left your partisan political ideology stranded
>for decades afterward..
>
>Hence..

I don't disagree with WHY the left initially managed
to grab power ... the depression made everybody
desperate and FDR was the Trump of the hour, the
new guy with a new deal.

Not that it was such a GREAT deal ... but 'new' was
good enough at the time.

You also imply that the depression was somehow the
fault of the Republicans. It was (and remains) a fault
of the SYSTEM - capitalism is inherently unstable, a
positive-feedback system that, improperly attended,
will bang back and forth between extremes. Maybe
OK for insular 1801, but not for globalist 2017.

The good bit is that it's high-performance and can
really take quick advantage of opportunities ... and
the bad bit is that it can also crash hard for seemingly
no reason at all.

So far, no political party has been able to properly
harness the good bits of capitalism and also guard
against its downsides. "Socialism" is just a giant
Xanax pill that depresses everything ... good way
for great nations to just fade away into the history
books, replaced by more aggressive risk-taking
entities. Oh yea, they usually execute the 'liberals'
when they take over ....

The closest 'fix' for capitalism is the concept of
the 'safety net' - keep a big cash reserve for when
everything goes to shit. It does - and did - work ...
but you can only use it just so often. China is an
instance of a heavily capitalistic economy with
essentially NO safety nets in place ... they haven't
had the time or inclination. WHEN it crashes it's
gonna leave a crater the size of the dinosaur-killer
asteroid .......

Oh well ... 1929 was 1929. The 'left' has mostly
run us down since then. Their "free money" strategy
is political heroin ... and making that very hard to
persue in the future is the best way to keep the
left buried deep. I don't want 'em gone entirely
however ... the (few) actual 'liberals' remaining on
the left DO have a function as a sort of 'conscience'
for the 'right'.

[Rudy Canoza]

On 1/9/2017 8:18 AM, Man of Mind wrote:
> On 1/9/2017 7:14 AM, Mrs. Bleak writhed in denials:
>>
>> I hope Trump and Pence absolutely *ruin* things for
>> you America-hating lefties ... make it impossible for
>> your ilk to ever regain any real power and influence.
>
> Speaking of 'certified bullshit', the last time Republicans
> had similar political 'stranglehold',

Never. Having control of Congress and the presidency is not a
"stranglehold," you stupid lying queer.

[Rudy Canoza]

On 1/9/2017 8:51 AM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jan 2017 10:18:24 -0600, Man of Mind
> <baron.v...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/9/2017 7:14 AM, Mrs. Bleak writhed in denials:
>>>
>>> I hope Trump and Pence absolutely *ruin* things for
>>> you America-hating lefties ... make it impossible for
>>> your ilk to ever regain any real power and influence.
>>
>> Speaking of 'certified bullshit', the last time Republicans
>> had similar political 'stranglehold', the Great Depression
>> came about and left your partisan political ideology stranded
>> for decades afterward..
>>
>> Hence..
>
> I don't disagree with WHY the left initially managed
> to grab power ... the depression made everybody
> desperate and FDR was the Trump of the hour, the
> new guy with a new deal.
>
> Not that it was such a GREAT deal ... but 'new' was
> good enough at the time.
>
> You also imply that the depression was somehow the
> fault of the Republicans. It was (and remains) a fault
> of the SYSTEM - capitalism is inherently unstable,

Bullshit - complete and utter bullshit. "Capitalism" didn't cause the
depression - government meddling did. The Federal Reserve caused the
depression by contracting the money stock by 1/3 by drastically
increasing banks' reserve requirements. That's what caused the
depression in the U.S. In the UK, it was caused by the government
insanely trying to keep the pound sterling at an absurdly high exchange
rate, causing gold to flood out of the country, causing a contraction in
the money supply.

Government meddling is what causes economic crises - every time.

[Mr. B1ack]

On Mon, 9 Jan 2017 09:00:26 -0800, Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con>
wrote:

The decade after WW-1 was both a transformation
into a global economy and an attempt to recover some
of the losses from the war. The chances of getting it
right were pretty much nil.

>Government meddling is what causes economic crises - every time.

Well, it exacerbates them ... because economies are
chaotic systems and anytime you THINK you see a
pattern, some magic button you can push, you're
almost always gonna be WRONG.

But politicians can't RESIST pushing buttons.

Capitalism in and of itself is unstable too, as I elucidated.
What "checks and balances" are built in usually won't
react fast enough to prevent runaway 'booms' and 'busts'.
Sorry Libertarians, but it's the truth.

No nation in the world has a purely laissez-faire
capitalistic system - and likewise no nation in the
world has a purely 'socialist'/Marxist system either.

There's no such thing as a "perfect" system mostly
because the systems involve HUMANS ... and
humans are batshit crazy. So, mix a little of this
and a little that and a pinch of whatever and ......
it's a kludge that works pretty well most of
the time.

Just don't forget to pack yer safety net ...

[Man of Mind]

On 1/9/2017 10:51 AM, Mrs. Bleak was still writhing in denials:
>
> On 1/9/2017 10:18 AM, Man of Mind noted the dissembling of:

>>
>> On 1/9/2017 7:14 AM, Mrs. Bleak writhed in denials:
>>>
>>> I hope Trump and Pence absolutely *ruin* things for
>>> you America-hating lefties ... make it impossible for
>>> your ilk to ever regain any real power and influence.
>>
>> Speaking of 'certified bullshit', the last time Republicans
>> had similar political 'stranglehold', the Great Depression
>> came about and left your partisan political ideology stranded
>> for decades afterward..
>

> I don't disagree with WHY the left initially managed
> to grab power

You just disagree with anything to do with Liberalism..

> FDR was the Trump of the hour

Nope, that would be patently absurd to compare them, at all..

> You also imply that the depression was somehow the
> fault of the Republicans

And you don't see the historic parallels, do you?

> So far, no political party has been able to properly
> harness the good bits of capitalism and also guard
> against its downsides

Sorry, but even Donald Trump has said that the national
has done better with Democratic administrations than with
Republicans..

> Oh well ... 1929 was 1929. The 'left' has mostly
> run us down since then. Their "free money" strategy

Now you're just making shit up, Mrs. Bleak..

[Man of Mind]

On 1/9/2017 10:53 AM, Ruby Canteloupa sneered like a stupid lying queer:

>
> On 1/9/2017 10:18 AM, Man of Mind wrote:
>>
>> On 1/9/2017 7:14 AM, Mrs. Bleak writhed in denials:
>>>
>>> I hope Trump and Pence absolutely *ruin* things for
>>> you America-hating lefties ... make it impossible for
>>> your ilk to ever regain any real power and influence.
>>
>> Speaking of 'certified bullshit', the last time Republicans

>> had similar political 'stranglehold', the Great Depression
>> came about and left your partisan political ideology stranded
>> for decades afterward..
>

> Never. Having control of Congress and the presidency

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/70th_United_States_Congress

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_Great_Depression

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire

[DoD]

"Ted" <sam.m....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:422158138505516129.32609...@news.easynews.com...

> First-Post <ProgressivesW...@invalid.org> wrote:
>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 13:10:31 -0500, Mr. B1ack <now...@nada.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:27:34 GMT, Ted <sam.m....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mr. B1ack <now...@nada.net> wrote:
>>>>> Maybe it's just me, but didn't Obamas comments about
>>>>> the four who tortured some retarded guy on Facebook
>>>>> sound a lot like "It was all HIS fault for being white" ????
>>>>
>>>> Many liberals do feel that way, but I doubt Obama would have let it
>>>> show
>>>> (although I didn't listen to his comments).
>>>
>>> Find them, listen. He did not actually condemn the
>>> torturers, instead he blathered about the "effects of
>>> racism" - and I didn't get the impression he was
>>> talking about the racism of BLM and associates.
>>
>> No surprise really. Remember when he implied that Christians were as
>> bad as muslims and cited the Crusades as proof?
>>
>> It is still pretty mind boggling to know that the American people
>> actually elected someone that despises every single thing the country
>> is supposed to symbolize and did it twice in a row.
>
> Some of us (suckers) hoped he'd diminish racial tensions and better unite
> the country. Did you listen to any of his campaign rhetoric? That's what
> he'd claimed he wanted.

I remember he said we were not the red states or blue states but the United
States and then shortly thereafter he said, they will tell you he doesn't
look like
the guys on your money, invoking racial division... He did that quite a
bit... I was never fooled.

[Rudy Canoza]

On 1/7/2017 11:14 AM, First-Post wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 13:10:31 -0500, Mr. B1ack <now...@nada.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:27:34 GMT, Ted <sam.m....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mr. B1ack <now...@nada.net> wrote:
>>>> Maybe it's just me, but didn't Obamas comments about
>>>> the four who tortured some retarded guy on Facebook
>>>> sound a lot like "It was all HIS fault for being white" ????
>>>
>>> Many liberals do feel that way, but I doubt Obama would have let it show
>>> (although I didn't listen to his comments).
>>
>> Find them, listen. He did not actually condemn the
>> torturers, instead he blathered about the "effects of
>> racism" - and I didn't get the impression he was
>> talking about the racism of BLM and associates.
>
> No surprise really. Remember when he implied that Christians were as
> bad as muslims and cited the Crusades as proof?

No, and you don't remember it, either, because he never did it. He has
said some morally-relativist things, but nothing that bad. You made
that one up.

[Mr. B1ack]

On Mon, 9 Jan 2017 22:12:19 -0600, Man of Mind
<baron.v...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 1/9/2017 10:53 AM, Ruby Canteloupa sneered like a stupid lying queer:
>>
>> On 1/9/2017 10:18 AM, Man of Mind wrote:
>>>
>>> On 1/9/2017 7:14 AM, Mrs. Bleak writhed in denials:
>>>>
>>>> I hope Trump and Pence absolutely *ruin* things for
>>>> you America-hating lefties ... make it impossible for
>>>> your ilk to ever regain any real power and influence.
>>>
>>> Speaking of 'certified bullshit', the last time Republicans
>>> had similar political 'stranglehold', the Great Depression
>>> came about and left your partisan political ideology stranded
>>> for decades afterward..
>>
>> Never. Having control of Congress and the presidency
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/70th_United_States_Congress
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_Great_Depression
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire
>
>

>Republicans often as not create the very problems they say
>that they're trying to solve, while blaming the Democratic
>Party for what they did..

Democrats often as not create the very problems they say
that they're trying to solve, while blaming the Republican
Party for that they did ....

Guess nobody's perfect ... but you CAN count on 'em to
blame somebody else :-)

Anyway, don't count on the 'miracle of the market' to save
us from the instabilities of capitalism - NOR expect to be
saved by plodding 'socialists' either. The health of the
(now global) economy has a lot to do with psychology ...
ie attitude. If people THINK things are going well they'll
act accordingly and things mostly WILL go well. If they
smell doom in the air however ......

Hmm ... maybe it's a good thing that we still see some of
those "The End Is Near" ads on TV where Bill DeVane and
pals keep trying to sell everybody on gold and silver to
stave off the inevitible global meltdown (you'd have thought
DeVane would own ALL the gold in the world by now ...).
What goes best with gold and silver ... ketchup, mustard
or A1 sauce ... cause you sure as hell can't spend it at
the 7-11 or Piggly Wiggly, so you'll have to eat it for dinner.

Thing is, these ads create a certain "noise level" of doom
and gloom ... which tends to disguise/dilute the odd bits
of real negative news about the global markets. Those
odd bits would seem much more important otherwise
and could easily cause panics.

[Mr. B1ack]

On Mon, 9 Jan 2017 22:10:21 -0600, Man of Mind
<baron.v...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 1/9/2017 10:51 AM, Mrs. Bleak was still writhing in denials:
>>
>> On 1/9/2017 10:18 AM, Man of Mind noted the dissembling of:
>>>
>>> On 1/9/2017 7:14 AM, Mrs. Bleak writhed in denials:
>>>>
>>>> I hope Trump and Pence absolutely *ruin* things for
>>>> you America-hating lefties ... make it impossible for
>>>> your ilk to ever regain any real power and influence.
>>>
>>> Speaking of 'certified bullshit', the last time Republicans
>>> had similar political 'stranglehold', the Great Depression
>>> came about and left your partisan political ideology stranded
>>> for decades afterward..
>>
>> I don't disagree with WHY the left initially managed
>> to grab power
>
>You just disagree with anything to do with Liberalism..

There is no "liberalism" anymore ... just "leftism" - a
very different thing.

I don't mind bona-fide small-"L" liberals. While they
maybe not ought to be put in charge of anything they
DO serve as a sort of conscience for the hard-assed
bottom-liners on the right. I'd paint myself as a
small-"L" libertarian - and on a lot of 'social' issues
I'll give you even more slack than the liberals, "free-
country" and all that. But in other ways ... the term
"South Park Republican" comes to mind. :-)

>> FDR was the Trump of the hour
>
>Nope, that would be patently absurd to compare them, at all..

I don't think so. The bright new face with the big
new plan and paradigm in a time of perceived
crisis .... he was that generations Trump.

>> You also imply that the depression was somehow the
>> fault of the Republicans
>
>And you don't see the historic parallels, do you?

The Depression woulda happened no matter what
party was in charge at the time. WW-1 created
a huge disruption at many levels (and not just to
American society either). No way our 'leaders'
were gonna hold it all together.

>> So far, no political party has been able to properly
>> harness the good bits of capitalism and also guard
>> against its downsides
>
>Sorry, but even Donald Trump has said that the national
>has done better with Democratic administrations than with
>Republicans..

The Republicans fix it ... fixes take a little while to
have effect ... then the Dems that follow take all
the credit.

>> Oh well ... 1929 was 1929. The 'left' has mostly
>> run us down since then. Their "free money" strategy
>
>Now you're just making shit up, Mrs. Bleak..

Truth ... capital-'T' Truth. Leftists have been
economic and social poison. Such a pity they
misbrand themselves as "liberals" ... may
actually violate the Truth In Labeling act :-)