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Obama condemns Iran’s ‘violent and unjust suppression’ of citizens
By Raw Story
Monday, December 28th, 2009 -- 8:11 pm
President Barack Obama on Monday strongly condemned Iran's crackdown on
protesters and called on the Islamic regime to immediately free those
"unjustly detained."
"The United States joins with the international community in strongly
condemning the violent and unjust suppression of innocent Iranian
citizens," Obama said in Hawaii where he is on vacation.
"We call for the immediate release of all who have been unjustly detained
within Iran," Obama said.
Obama promised to stand behind Iranians during the "extraordinary
events," saying that he was "confident that history will be on the side
of those who seek justice."
But he said that the events were "not about the United States," which is
vilified by hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, or "any other
country."
Story continues below...
"It's about the Iranian people and their aspirations for justice and a
better life for themselves," Obama said.
"The decision of Iran's leaders to govern through fear and tyranny will
not continue," he said. "It's telling when governments fear the
aspirations of their own people more than the power of any other nation."
Opposition websites said at least eight people were killed in fierce
clashes after thousands of people took to the streets, renewing
opposition to Ahmadinejad who was returned to power in a hotly disputed
election in June.
Security forces responded with force despite Shiite Muslims' observance
of their sacred day of Ashura, which marks the seventh-century martyrdom
of Imam Hussein.
"For months, the Iranian people have sought nothing more than to exercise
their rights," Obama said.
"Each time they have been met with the iron fist of brutality, even on
solemn occasions and holy days," he said.
"Each time, the world watched with deep admiration for the courage and
conviction of the Iranian people who are part of Iran's great and
enduring civilization."
5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09
snakehawk
wrote:
> http://rawstory.com/2009/12/obama-condemns-irans-violent-unjust-
> suppression-citizens/
>
> Obama condemns Iran’s ‘violent and unjust suppression’ of citizens
>
> By Raw Story
> Monday, December 28th, 2009 -- 8:11 pm
>
> President Barack Obama on Monday strongly condemned Iran's crackdown on
> protesters and called on the Islamic regime to immediately free those
> "unjustly detained."
If president Obama expects Iran, or any other middle eastern nation,
to pay attention to his criticisms about oppression and illegal
incarcerations, he will first have to demonstrate that he can get the
vicious Israelis to pay attention. While president Obama calls upon
Iran to allow protests and to free those "unjustly detained," the
president is looking helpless as Israel starves the people of Gaza,
shoots palestinians who try to regain their rightful property, and
holds tens of thousands of Palestinians in prison without charge,
trial, or appeal. Intransigent Israel is deliberately making the
president look like a hypocrite.
David Hartung
> http://rawstory.com/2009/12/obama-condemns-irans-violent-unjust-
> suppression-citizens/
>
> Obama condemns Iran’s ‘violent and unjust suppression’ of citizens
>
> By Raw Story
> Monday, December 28th, 2009 -- 8:11 pm
>
> President Barack Obama on Monday strongly condemned Iran's crackdown on
> protesters and called on the Islamic regime to immediately free those
> "unjustly detained."
This is all very nice, but what will Obama's condemnation accomplish?
David Hartung
> On Dec 28, 10:18 pm, "5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
> wrote:
>> http://rawstory.com/2009/12/obama-condemns-irans-violent-unjust-
>> suppression-citizens/
>>
>>
>> By Raw Story
>> Monday, December 28th, 2009 -- 8:11 pm
>>
>> President Barack Obama on Monday strongly condemned Iran's crackdown on
>> protesters and called on the Islamic regime to immediately free those
>> "unjustly detained."
>
> If president Obama expects Iran, or any other middle eastern nation,
> to pay attention to his criticisms about oppression and illegal
> incarcerations, he will first have to demonstrate that he can get the
> vicious Israelis to pay attention. While president Obama calls upon
> Iran to allow protests and to free those "unjustly detained," the
> president is looking helpless as Israel starves the people of Gaza,
> shoots palestinians who try to regain their rightful property, and
> holds tens of thousands of Palestinians in prison without charge,
> trial, or appeal. Intransigent Israel is deliberately making the
> president look like a hypocrite.
Sorry, that dog don't hunt. The residents of Gaza have brought their
troubles upon themselves.
snakehawk
> snakehawk wrote:
> > On Dec 28, 10:18 pm, "5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
> > wrote:
> >>http://rawstory.com/2009/12/obama-condemns-irans-violent-unjust-
> >> suppression-citizens/
>
>
> >> By Raw Story
> >> Monday, December 28th, 2009 -- 8:11 pm
>
> >> President Barack Obama on Monday strongly condemned Iran's crackdown on
> >> protesters and called on the Islamic regime to immediately free those
> >> "unjustly detained."
>
> > If president Obama expects Iran, or any other middle eastern nation,
> > to pay attention to his criticisms about oppression and illegal
> > incarcerations, he will first have to demonstrate that he can get the
> > vicious Israelis to pay attention. While president Obama calls upon
> > Iran to allow protests and to free those "unjustly detained," the
> > president is looking helpless as Israel starves the people of Gaza,
> > shoots palestinians who try to regain their rightful property, and
> > holds tens of thousands of Palestinians in prison without charge,
> > trial, or appeal. Intransigent Israel is deliberately making the
> > president look like a hypocrite.
>
> Sorry, that dog don't hunt. The residents of Gaza have brought their
> troubles upon themselves.
You mean like the United States brought the attacks of 9/11 on itself
by supporting endless Israeli aggression against Muslims in
Palestine? Or like Israelis brings attacks upon themselves by
violently seizing Palestinian land, bulldozing Palestinian farms,
appropriating Palestinian homes and buildings, and occupying
Palestinian territory?
And just what did all those thousands of Gazan women, children, and
elderly villagers do that brought upon themselves the vicious attacks
by the Israeli jet fighters and helicopter gunships, and what did they
do that justified their deliberate starvation at the hands of a bunch
of foreign animals who have invaded their homeland?
Not Sure
The endless lengths the dipshits on the left go to when defending
their Muslime terrorist heroes never ceases to amuse. Continue
sucking, whore :)
5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09
> snakehawk wrote:
>> On Dec 28, 10:18 pm, "5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
>> wrote:
>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/12/obama-condemns-irans-violent-unjust-
>>> suppression-citizens/
>>>
>>> Obama condemns Iran’s ‘violent and unjust suppression’ of citizens
>>>
>>> By Raw Story
>>> Monday, December 28th, 2009 -- 8:11 pm
>>>
>>> President Barack Obama on Monday strongly condemned Iran's crackdown
>>> on protesters and called on the Islamic regime to immediately free
>>> those "unjustly detained."
>>
>> If president Obama expects Iran, or any other middle eastern nation, to
>> pay attention to his criticisms about oppression and illegal
>> incarcerations, he will first have to demonstrate that he can get the
>> vicious Israelis to pay attention. While president Obama calls upon
>> Iran to allow protests and to free those "unjustly detained," the
>> president is looking helpless as Israel starves the people of Gaza,
>> shoots palestinians who try to regain their rightful property, and
>> holds tens of thousands of Palestinians in prison without charge,
>> trial, or appeal. Intransigent Israel is deliberately making the
>> president look like a hypocrite.
>
> Sorry, that dog don't hunt. The residents of Gaza have brought their
> troubles upon themselves.
And the po' widdle Israelis are just innocent victims of coicumstance,
right?
5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09
Nothing, I should think, but at least now you can't whine that he ignored
it.
5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09
Agreed. Either Israel has to clean up its act, or the US has to start
treating Israel is no real improvement over her neighbors, or continue to
be a target on Israel's behalf.
bvallely
> > This is all very nice, but what will Obama's condemnation accomplish?
> Nothing, I should think, but at least now you can't whine that he ignored
> it.
It took Obama three days to come up with that mess? Cheese and
crackers, "My Little Goat" isn't THAT long.
David Hartung
> On Dec 28, 11:07 pm, David Hartung <d_hart...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> snakehawk wrote:
>>> On Dec 28, 10:18 pm, "5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/12/obama-condemns-irans-violent-unjust-
>>>> suppression-citizens/
Question?
Where do the rocket attacks into Israel originate?
David Hartung
Zepp, for once, educate yourself.
David Hartung
Once again you demonstrate your willing ignorance.
Steve
Israel isn't poor, nor little, and is perfectly capable of cleaning up
the Middle East if they get pissed enough and the US gets out of the
way.
Steve
<LOL> ..but then, you non-citizens don't get to set US policy...
Milt
Um, fake Bill? Your ignorance is just breathtaking...
First of all, it didn't take three days, it took one. There is no
point in issuing a statement on a holiday. Plus, you have to be
careful about what you say and how you say it, because, as Bush proved
repeatedly, if you say the wrong thing, and redirect their anger back
at us, you can quell the uprising pretty quickly. And make no mistake;
we want there to be an uprising.
Second of all, you might not want to mention "My Pet Goat," because
Bush is apparently still reading, since the one thing he promised to
do in the wake of the terrorist attacks is to go after those
responsible and in seven years he never did it.
Does it take more than seven years for Bush to read that book?
David Hartung
> Second of all, you might not want to mention "My Pet Goat," because
> Bush is apparently still reading, since the one thing he promised to
> do in the wake of the terrorist attacks is to go after those
> responsible and in seven years he never did it.
You may wish to re-examine your information. We have spent the last
eight years "going after" those responsible for 911. The simple truth is
that the only way to prevent future attacks is to eliminate the
terrorists. This is what we have been doing.
Falstaff
David Hartung wrote:
> 5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09 wrote:
> > http://rawstory.com/2009/12/obama-condemns-irans-violent-unjust-
> > suppression-citizens/
> >
> > Obama condemns Iran’s ‘violent and unjust suppression’ of citizens
> >
> >
>
> This is all very nice, but what will Obama's condemnation accomplish?
It will accomplish nothing, just like Bush 41 condemning China over
Tianimen Square and Reagan condemning Russia over KAL007.
Condemnations are for domestic audiences, not foreign leaders.
5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09
> snakehawk wrote:
>> On Dec 28, 11:07 pm, David Hartung <d_hart...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> snakehawk wrote:
>>>> On Dec 28, 10:18 pm, "5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/12/obama-condemns-irans-violent-unjust-
>>>>> suppression-citizens/
>>>>> Obama condemns Iran’s ‘violent and unjust suppression’ of citizens
Are they equal to the use of white phospherous on civilian populations?
5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09
I have. I know all about the illegal settlements, and the Berlin Wall
the Israelis built, and the war crimes they've committed.
5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09
Why else would Islamic extremists target the US. And DON'T give me the
"because they have our freedom" crap.
liberal
No, they're the victims of a thousand years of bigotry that culminated
in the NAZI Holocaust. The survivors decided to return to Palestine
and take land away from the British Mandate and form a country in
order to defend themselves. The Arabs of Palestine (and all of the
middle east) were not shy about killing Jews even before the founding
of Israel.
liberal
Israel may not be "poor," whatever you mean by that, but if you
compare populations of, say, Cairo, to all of Israel you'd understand
Israel can't "clean up" the Middle East by itself.
liberal
You may wish to re-examine your information...we've spend the last
nine years invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 or
terrorism in general. We've also occupied a country long after
driving the rulers out who protected the terrorist organization
responsible for 9/11. But we forgot to leave afterwards, and just
aiding the citizens, and now the old rulers are seen as better than
the new rulers.
liberal
Duh....Hortense, ya old bigot....do ya think Israelis think, "There's
an apartment complex filled with children and old people.....let's
bomb the fuck out of them"? Or do ya think maybe Hamas thinks, "Gee,
let's shoot some rockets into Israel from the roof of this apartment
complex full of children and old people"?
Steve
others have messed with Israel before and wished they hadn't.
liberal
They've target the US because they say (correctly) we're the source of
non-Islamic thinking. And we support leaders who don't let Islamic
wackjob (like in Iran) take over the government.
David Hartung
> Why else would Islamic extremists target the US. And DON'T give me the
> "because they have our freedom" crap.
Israel is the longest lived, and probably the only true free,
democratically governed society in that part of the world, why wouldn't
we support them? Why would we support those who have been trying to kill
the Jews since they began to return to their homeland?
5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09
They're free for a portion--less than half--of the population of the
country, which makes their claims of being free pretty hollow.
Why should we support illegal settlements, air strikes and phosphrous
attacks on civilian populations?
Phlip
> > protesters and called on the Islamic regime to immediately free those
> > "unjustly detained."
>
Didn't Obama sing "Bomb bomb bomb - bomb bomb Iran", TTTO Barbara-Ann,
during the election campaign?
Oh, wait, that was McBush. nvm...
Steve
Nobody cares who you support, Jamieson. You're not even a citizen.
Matt
No, but they defend themselves quite well. The problem, of course, two-
fold:
1. They can't beat the entire Middle East if they all work together
(not that
this is likely).
2. We keep telling them to stay out of things (see: Bush/Iraq).
Matt
Matt
Sigh. Forced to agree with Steve. Must be a sign of the Apocalypse.
"Liberal" *is* correct in that they can't clean it up by themselves,
but I
agree, anyone attacking the Israelites would regret it. They are
probably
the most efficient armed force in the world.
Matt
5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09
they've got nukes, at least 50 and possibly 200. They need American
help in defending themselves about has much as China needs help to
fight off Nepal and Tibet.
Despite that, Israel gets more aid from the US then the rest of the
world combined, and all the military equipment they can buy.
In short, Israel doesn't need the US, and the US gains nothing from
helping Israel.
5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09
First world fighters surrounded by developing nation neighbors. Egypt
and Iran are about the only countries other than Israel with a
plausible late-20th century technology, and Egypt appears quite
satisfied with the Camp David accords. As for Iran...well, that's
anybody's guess. But even if they get nukes, they aren't going to lob
them at the Israelis. Not only can Israel fire back, but Iran would
have to worry about the superpowers, none of whom would be amused at a
nuclear war in the middle east. This is especially true of Russia,
who have made it clear they are willing to make nice with Ahmadinejad,
but only to a point. They openly back away when he begins
saber-rattling.
>Matt
David Hartung
Illegal settlements? Illegal according to whom?
Air strikes are a part of war, why should they be a problem?
Provide proof that the Israelis target civilians with rocket attacks of
any kind.
5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09
<d_ha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:14:27 -0600, "5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09"
>> <de...@dead.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:40:09 -0600, David Hartung wrote:
>>>
>>>> 5311 Dead, 444 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why else would Islamic extremists target the US. And DON'T give me the
>>>>> "because they have our freedom" crap.
>>>> Israel is the longest lived, and probably the only true free,
>>>> democratically governed society in that part of the world, why wouldn't
>>>> we support them? Why would we support those who have been trying to kill
>>>> the Jews since they began to return to their homeland?
>>> They're free for a portion--less than half--of the population of the
>>> country, which makes their claims of being free pretty hollow.
>>>
>>> Why should we support illegal settlements, air strikes and phosphrous
>>> attacks on civilian populations?
>Illegal settlements? Illegal according to whom?
The UN.
>
>Air strikes are a part of war, why should they be a problem?
What war?
>
>Provide proof that the Israelis target civilians with rocket attacks of
>any kind.
It's pretty hard to bomb fucking cities without hitting civilians,
wouldn't you say?
bvallely
> On Dec 29, 12:24 am, bvallely <bvall...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > .> > This is all very nice, but what will Obama's condemnation accomplish?
> > .
> > > Nothing, I should think, but at least now you can't whine that he ignored
> > > it.
>
> > .
> > It took Obama three days to come up with that mess? Cheese and
> > crackers, "My Little Goat" isn't THAT long.
>
> Um, fake Bill?
What is it, Fake Milt? (BTW, Fake Milt, when are you going to post
where I can find your professional weekly column?)
.
> Your ignorance is just breathtaking...
.
> First of all, it didn't take three days, it took one. >
Really? That mess was said on Saturday, not yesterday? Prove it,
Fake Milt. But you won't - that's why you're called "Fake Milt."
.
>There is no point in issuing a statement on a holiday.>
What is Obama - a Union Man? "I'd love to help, Ma'am, but sending a
man out on a holiday is triple time."
> Plus, you have to be careful about what you say and how you say it, because, as Bush proved repeatedly, if you say the wrong thing, and redirect their anger back at us, you can quell the uprising pretty quickly. >
.
You know what we learned? There wasn't a single post 9/11 terrorist
attack on American soil under Bush's watch. Under Obama's careful
words and respectful treatment, we've had two in as many months.
.
> And make no mistake; we want there to be an uprising.>
.
In America? Obama's certainly doing everything in his power to bring
that about, Fake Milt.(BTW, Fake Milt, when are you going to post
where I can find your professional weekly column?)
.
> Second of all, you might not want to mention "My Pet Goat,">
.
Actually, I do, Fake Milt. (BTW, Fake Milt, when are you going to post
where I can find your professional weekly column?) Obama's entire
intelligence gathering operation is one long reading of "My Pet Goat".
.
> because
> Bush is apparently still reading, since the one thing he promised to
> do in the wake of the terrorist attacks is to go after those
> responsible and in seven years he never did it.
.
Bush kept America safe for over seven years.
bvallely
> On Dec 29, 8:12 am, David Hartung <d_hart...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Milt wrote:
> > > Second of all, you might not want to mention "My Pet Goat," because
> > > Bush is apparently still reading, since the one thing he promised to
> > > do in the wake of the terrorist attacks is to go after those
> > > responsible and in seven years he never did it.
>
> > You may wish to re-examine your information. We have spent the last
> > eight years "going after" those responsible for 911. The simple truth is
> > that the only way to prevent future attacks is to eliminate the
> > terrorists. This is what we have been doing.
>
> You may wish to re-examine your information...we've spend the last
> nine years invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 or
> terrorism in general.
Saddam was not involved in Terrorism? Really?
Steve
BULLSHIT!
Jamieson keeps pulling facts out of his fat ass...
Steve
...only because if Iran gets close to gettting nukes, Israel will
"eliminate" them...