"Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man"
Patriot Games
Numbers 31:17-18
Nice Republican sentiment, don'tcha think?
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> "... but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
>
> Numbers 31:17-18
>
>
> Nice Republican sentiment, don'tcha think?
That's the only way you'd get a woman, threaten her with death.
Wanker.
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Regards, Curly
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Patriot Games
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:46:42 -0800, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
> wrote:
>
>> "... but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
>>
>> Numbers 31:17-18
>>
>>
>> Nice Republican sentiment, don'tcha think?
>
> That's the only way you'd get a woman, threaten her with death.
You get a woman by treating her kindly... trust me on this.
gabriel
<Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> "... but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
>
> Numbers 31:17-18
These were young girls that were spared to later be given in
marriage when they were of age.
There is a great deal of background to what is going on in this
passage - in short it is centered around the Midianites hiring
Balaam to curse Israel and then causing the people of Israel
(God's chosen people, mind you) to become entangled in idolatry
and great sexual immorality.
That the young girls who knew not yet a man were spared despite
the blasphemous conduct of all the Midianites shows mercy. They
were later to be given in marriage.
>
>
> Nice Republican sentiment, don'tcha think?
You mean as opposed to the Democratic sentiment of murdering over
50 million baby boys and girls (and counting) since 1973 because
people are taught to view those babies as merely punishment for
having sex, hence it's fine to murder them? You have your
judgment backwards - those that blaspheme God are playing with
fire and will one day reap what they sow when they face God.
Those that are born through no fault of their own are murdered by
their parents because they were wicked enough to be conned by
other wicked people into viewing those babies as merely
punishment for having sex, to be done away with by murder. =(
Dr. Barry Worthington
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:46:42 -0800, Patriot Games
>
I consider myself a Christian. I'm not really sure what you are....
Dr. Barry Worthington
Wild Bill
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Allow me to give you a clue, Dr. Worthington. Gabriel is a lying disgrace to
his religion!
>
> Dr. Barry Worthington
Freedom Fighter
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:46:42 -0800, Patriot Games
>
Re: Murder over 50 million babies since 1973, viewing them as
punishment for having sex (WAS: "Now kill all the boys. And kill every
woman who has slept with a man") your mother and father should have
aborted YOU, gabriel.... you judgemental sinner!
your mother and father should have aborted YOU, gabriel.... you
judgemental sinner!
Freedom Fighter
Re: "Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a
man" Patriot Games should have been aborted too!
gabriel
We are all sinners. Very sad that you'd to wish the death of a
person for pointing out how abortion is wrong. =( Perhaps this is
more of the sad side affects of being taught the relative morals
that killing your own child is ok. In the end, God is the one
we'll have to convince such murder was ok.
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:46:42 -0800, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "... but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a
>>> man."
>>>
>>> Numbers 31:17-18
>>>
>>>
>>> Nice Republican sentiment, don'tcha think?
>>
>> That's the only way you'd get a woman, threaten her with death.
>
> You get a woman by treating her kindly... trust me on this.
I know. Bob Milby wouldn't.
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
I consider gabriel to be a shining example of Christianity.
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> We are all sinners.
You are insane.
Keep up the good work. Christianity must die.
Dr. Barry Worthington
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:25:56 -0800, "Wild Bill" <bilsg...@daytonwa.net>
No he isn't! You must meet the wrong kind of 'Christian'.
Dr. Barry Worthington
>
> --
> Regards, Curly
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i STILL say you shoulda been aborted!
Curly Surmudgeon
<sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
> On 30 Dec, 07:51, Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:25:56 -0800, "Wild Bill" <bilsg...@daytonwa.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote in message
>> >news:c7b2fa85-5740-4016-8f23-
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Yes, that's the problem with crazymotherfuckers. It's always the "other"
religion who is insane, not yours. If you believe in a god then you,
too, are a crazymotherfucker.
Through the miracles of modern chemistry and medicine psycho-doctors can
silence voices in your head. Of course electro-shock therapy works too.
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Regards, Curly
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Dr. Barry Worthington
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:36:22 -0800, "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>
> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
> > On 30 Dec, 07:51, Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:25:56 -0800, "Wild Bill" <bilsg...@daytonwa.net>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote in message
> >> >news:c7b2fa85-5740-4016-8f23-
>
What is?
> It's always the "other"
> religion who is insane, not yours.
Curly, you have a comprehension problem. You are so freaked out by the
American religious nutters that you come across that your judgement is
warped. You are in danger of becoming like them. Look, anyone could
see that Christian was in inverted commas, indicating that they were
not considered genuine Christians, Consequently, I wasn't talking
about other religions, but (largely American) religious nutters.
Elswhere on another thread, I attempted to give an exposition of a
modern Christian interpretation of the Gospels for you, and you did
not have the courtesy to respond. What's the matter with you? After
all, as far as American domestic politics are concerned, many of your
other views are reasonably close to mine
> If you believe in a god then you,
> too, are a crazymotherfucker.
Why?
>
> Through the miracles of modern chemistry and medicine psycho-doctors can
> silence voices in your head. Of course electro-shock therapy works too.
Ah, you see most people interpret 'voices in the head' as their
conscience. We all have one (even Republicans), whether we are
religious or not. The difference is that Christians (and other
religious people) think that God has a hand in the formulation of
theirs.
Regards,
Dr. Barry Worthington
>
> --
> Regards, Curly
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> The Bible: Slavery good, gays bad, snakes talk.
gabriel
Not sure I follow you. Are you saying you support abortion?
Wikking
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:46:42 -0800, Patriot Games
> <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>
>> "... but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
>>
>> Numbers 31:17-18
>
> These were young girls that were spared to later be given in
> marriage when they were of age.
>
> There is a great deal of background to what is going on in this
> passage - in short it is centered around the Midianites hiring
> Balaam to curse Israel and then causing the people of Israel
> (God's chosen people, mind you) to become entangled in idolatry
> and great sexual immorality.
>
> That the young girls who knew not yet a man were spared despite
> the blasphemous conduct of all the Midianites shows mercy. They
> were later to be given in marriage.
>
>>
>> Nice Republican sentiment, don'tcha think?
>
> You mean as opposed to the Democratic sentiment of murdering over
> 50 million baby boys and girls (and counting) since 1973 because
> people are taught to view those babies as merely punishment for
> having sex, hence it's fine to murder them?
Firstly, abortion is the legal and settled law of the land.
Secondly, you have no biblical justification for calling it murder in
either the Old or the New Testament, hence it is a man-made construct.
That is to say, a man claiming that he is speaking for God and calling
it murder. To my mind, claiming to speak for God is a pretty big sin....
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It is clear that the "Birthers", "Teabaggers", politicians and media
hosts or pundits that purvey messages of resistance, insurrection and
don't want their kids to go to school to hear the words of the POTUS
have become the dupes and stooges of foreign intelligence services
that wish to see the US destabilized by a bunch of fools - they must
be laughing their heads off at these wingnuts who are so ready to be
their pawns...
gabriel
<Wik.King!@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> gabriel wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:46:42 -0800, Patriot Games
> > <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> >
> >> "... but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
> >>
> >> Numbers 31:17-18
> >
> > These were young girls that were spared to later be given in
> > marriage when they were of age.
> >
> > There is a great deal of background to what is going on in this
> > passage - in short it is centered around the Midianites hiring
> > Balaam to curse Israel and then causing the people of Israel
> > (God's chosen people, mind you) to become entangled in idolatry
> > and great sexual immorality.
> >
> > That the young girls who knew not yet a man were spared despite
> > the blasphemous conduct of all the Midianites shows mercy. They
> > were later to be given in marriage.
> >
> >>
> >> Nice Republican sentiment, don'tcha think?
> >
> > You mean as opposed to the Democratic sentiment of murdering over
> > 50 million baby boys and girls (and counting) since 1973 because
> > people are taught to view those babies as merely punishment for
> > having sex, hence it's fine to murder them?
>
> Firstly, abortion is the legal and settled law of the land.
Just because something was made legal does not mean it is not
murder. If a country is wicked enough to legalize murdering
someone just because you don't like their skin color, that would
not make it right either, as I would hope you'd agree.
> Secondly, you have no biblical justification for calling it murder in
> either the Old or the New Testament, hence it is a man-made construct.
A person doesn't even need the Bible to realize it's murder. Many
who do not believe in God still have the sense to stand up
against it as the obvious murder of an innocent child that it is.
Although every child of God would agree that it's murder despite
some people trying to claim it's not.
There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end
thereof are the ways of death.
Proverbs 14:12 KJV
And the Bible talks about people while they are still in the womb
- as God knowing people and in some cases even sanctifying a few
individuals while they were still in the womb.
For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine
ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.
Luke 1:44 KJV
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou
camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained
thee a prophet unto the nations.
Jeremiah 1:5 KJV
Clear mention of knowing a *person* before they even came forth
from the womb.
Not to mention:
If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit
depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely
punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and
he shall pay as the judges determine.
Exodus 21:22 KJV
Clear punishment for causing the death of a child in the womb.
>
> That is to say, a man claiming that he is speaking for God and calling
> it murder. To my mind, claiming to speak for God is a pretty big sin....
Claiming to speak for God that He doesn't mind that people kill
their own child if they couldn't be bothered with dealing with
him or her, I agree.
God's Word speaks for God and clearly says otherwise.
In the meantime those that have murdered their own baby in the
name of avoiding inconvenience better hope and pray God will
agree with them that murdering their own child was a good thing.
Andrew W
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> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:50:30 -0500, Wikking
> <Wik.King!@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> gabriel wrote:
>> > On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:46:42 -0800, Patriot Games
>> > <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> >
>> > You mean as opposed to the Democratic sentiment of murdering over
>> > 50 million baby boys and girls (and counting) since 1973 because
>> > people are taught to view those babies as merely punishment for
>> > having sex, hence it's fine to murder them?
>>
>> Firstly, abortion is the legal and settled law of the land.
>
> Just because something was made legal does not mean it is not
> murder. If a country is wicked enough to legalize murdering
> someone just because you don't like their skin color, that would
> not make it right either, as I would hope you'd agree.
>
Murder is only of post-borns.
>
>> Secondly, you have no biblical justification for calling it murder in
>> either the Old or the New Testament, hence it is a man-made construct.
>
> A person doesn't even need the Bible to realize it's murder. Many
> who do not believe in God still have the sense to stand up
> against it as the obvious murder of an innocent child that it is.
> Although every child of God would agree that it's murder despite
> some people trying to claim it's not.
>
> There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end
> thereof are the ways of death.
> Proverbs 14:12 KJV
>
>
> And the Bible talks about people while they are still in the womb
> - as God knowing people and in some cases even sanctifying a few
> individuals while they were still in the womb.
>
> For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine
> ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.
> Luke 1:44 KJV
>
> Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou
> camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained
> thee a prophet unto the nations.
> Jeremiah 1:5 KJV
>
> Clear mention of knowing a *person* before they even came forth
> from the womb.
>
That was a long time ago when the population was low. The world is now
overpopulated.
You assume that God wants every single fetus now to come into the world.
>
> Not to mention:
>
> If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit
> depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely
> punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and
> he shall pay as the judges determine.
> Exodus 21:22 KJV
>
> Clear punishment for causing the death of a child in the womb.
>
That was clearly a societal law.
"he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon
him; and
he shall pay as the judges determine."
Can you not see this? It has nothing to do with God. Its up to the husband
and the judges.
>
>>
>> That is to say, a man claiming that he is speaking for God and calling
>> it murder. To my mind, claiming to speak for God is a pretty big sin....
>
> Claiming to speak for God that He doesn't mind that people kill
> their own child if they couldn't be bothered with dealing with
> him or her, I agree.
>
You are speaking for God also but just claiming the opposite. You are just
as bad.
>
> God's Word speaks for God and clearly says otherwise.
>
Who told you the Christian Bible was God's word?
Muslims emphatically claim the Koran is God's word. Same with countless
other religions. You have no more credibility than them.
>
> In the meantime those that have murdered their own baby in the
> name of avoiding inconvenience better hope and pray God will
> agree with them that murdering their own child was a good thing.
>
Murder is only of post-borns.
You worry so much about the fate of pre-borns, yet you couldn't care less
about the people currently in the world who need help which is typical of
emotion driven religious fanatics.
Wikking
I disagree with your definition of murder as the old and new testament
does as well. It's your interpretation and verges on heresy.
Pay money. Is that not clear to you? Yet people like you justify
murder in the name of your cause? Who would Jesus murder?
>
>
>> That is to say, a man claiming that he is speaking for God and calling
>> it murder. To my mind, claiming to speak for God is a pretty big sin....
>
> Claiming to speak for God that He doesn't mind that people kill
> their own child if they couldn't be bothered with dealing with
> him or her, I agree.
>
> God's Word speaks for God and clearly says otherwise.
>
> In the meantime those that have murdered their own baby in the
> name of avoiding inconvenience better hope and pray God will
> agree with them that murdering their own child was a good thing.
Nope, you claim to be speaking for God. Bad move.