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Occupy's Liberation From Liberalism

By David Graeber, Guardian UK

09 May 12

Occupy Wall Street: Take the Bull by the Horns


he US press seems to have decided that the Occupy movement is no longer a
story. Pretty much no matter what we do. In New York, on May Day,
something between 50,000 and 100,000 people marched through the streets –
we don't know the exact numbers because most papers didn't report the
event at all, and therefore, didn't bother to make estimates. In
California, there were blockades and walkouts. In Seattle, one band of
protestors relived the famous Black Bloc actions of November 1999,
smashing many of the same corporate windows – and even that didn't make
national news!

But in a way it hardly matters. Occupy is shedding its liberal accretions
and rapidly turning into something with much deeper roots, creating
alliances that promise to transform the very notion of revolutionary
politics in America.

During the first two months of the occupation, camps emerged in every
city in America, there was an explosion of press attention, and, at the
same time, a vast influx of money (at one point, OWS in New York was
sitting on over $0.5m, almost all of it from donations of under $100
each). Those months also saw a veritable invasion from liberal groups,
ranging from Rebuild the Dream to MoveOn.org. Before long, occupiers
realized the help was threatening to destroy them; meetings became
bureaucratized as they turned into endless squabbles about money; paid
organizers with agendas often very different than the original occupiers
were infiltrating and trying to turn the movement towards much more
conventional political or electoral campaigns.

Then came the evictions.

There is a traditional terms of alliance between liberals and radicals in
American social movements: through civil disobedience and direct action,
the radicals create a fire on the liberals' left that makes them seem
relevant as a moderate alternative; the liberals keep us out of jail. In
this case, the liberals spectacularly failed.

Over the winter, rather than making an issue of the extraordinary illegal
violence of the evictions, they chose, instead, to create an almost
histrionic moral crisis over a few broken windows in Oakland months
before. But when OWS re-emerged in the spring, the abandonment of the
liberals, the drying-up of the money, have become an almost miraculous
blessing. Activists have honed and polished their street tactics and
democratic process. New alliances have been created, with community
groups, immigrant rights organizations, and, increasingly, labor unions.

One reason OWS agreed to forgo mass civil disobedience in New York on 1
May was to solidify those alliances. Instead, occupiers working within
the coalition pushed – with the boisterous support of many rank and file,
despite the initial hesitation of some union leadership – for a joint
solidarity statement that called not just for the usual battle against
austerity, but to the revolutionary transformation of society:

"For centuries, May Day has been a time when the stirrings of spring
lead people of good will towards visions of revolutionary renewal. The
powerful wish to take these dreams away from us. They never will. And so
it is on this May Day, in the wake of a growing planetary uprising for
justice, we dare to look forward to a world when the borders that divide
us will be made meaningless, to the birth of genuinely democratic culture
of communities managing their own resources for the common good, and
where the value and dignity of no human being on this planet is
considered inferior to any other."

For representatives of New York's Health and Transit Workers, not to
mention its Central Labor Council, to sign on to such a statement is
epochal. America is one of the few countries where May Day, the
International Workers' Day, is not even a holiday – ironically enough,
considering the fact the date was chosen to commemorate events that
occurred in Chicago, during the struggle for the 8-hour day in 1886.
During the cold war, the idea of unions signing on to a statement like
this would have been inconceivable: in the 1960s, unionized workers were
known physically attack Wall Street protestors in the name of patriotic
anti-communism. But the collapse of state socialism has made new
alliances possible, and, in making common cause with occupiers, and the
immigrant groups that first turned May Day into a national day of action
in 2006, working-class organizations are also beginning to return to
their roots—up to and including, the ideas and visions of the Haymarket
martyrs themselves.

The words might be diplomatically chosen, but there's no mistaking what
tradition is being invoked here. In endorsing a vision of universal
equality, of the dissolution of national borders, and democratic self-
governing communities, nurses, bus drivers, and construction workers at
the heart of America's greatest capitalist metropolis are signing on to
the vision, if not the tactics, of revolutionary anarchism.

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Foxtrot

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May 10, 2012, 12:21:27 PM5/10/12
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2966 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote:

>http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/441-occupy/11349-focus-occupys-liberation-from-liberalism
>
>Occupy's Liberation From Liberalism

>Occupy Wall Street: Take the Bull by the Horns
>
>
>he US press seems to have decided that the Occupy movement is no longer a
>story. Pretty much no matter what we do. In New York, on May Day,
>something between 50,000 and 100,000 people marched through the streets –
>we don't know the exact numbers because most papers didn't report the
>event at all, and therefore, didn't bother to make estimates. In
>California, there were blockades and walkouts. In Seattle, one band of
>protestors relived the famous Black Bloc actions of November 1999,
>smashing many of the same corporate windows – and even that didn't make
>national news!

Waaaah nobody is paying attention to us! Then we'll scream and cry
even louder!

Believe me, the media is doing you a big favor. They're sparing you the
embarrassment of telling normal Americans how you throw rocks at police
and wallow in your feces in urine.

>The words might be diplomatically chosen, but there's no mistaking what
>tradition is being invoked here. In endorsing a vision of universal
>equality, of the dissolution of national borders, and democratic self-
>governing communities, nurses, bus drivers, and construction workers at
>the heart of America's greatest capitalist metropolis are signing on to
>the vision, if not the tactics, of revolutionary anarchism.

Finally in the last paragraph the author gets to his point--the threat of
sabotaging our great nation with anarchy.

This is why the mainstream media is helping you by hiding you, park
crappers.

dav...@agent.com

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May 10, 2012, 12:21:42 PM5/10/12
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2966 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote:

>...called not just for the usual battle against austerity,
> but to the revolutionary transformation of society:

We're in the midst of a population bubble, Dude,
global oil demand is 88.7 million bbl/day, and we
don't know how much is out there. Birth control,
coupled with life extension, gives us fewer young
workers to account for a growing ## of elderly.
That doesn't compute. We need to stop suppressing
measles, influenza, malaria & tuberculosis, to get
back on track!

Phlip

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May 10, 2012, 12:43:09 PM5/10/12
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On May 10, 9:21 am, dav...@agent.com wrote:

> We're in the midst of a population bubble, Dude,
> global oil demand is 88.7 million bbl/day, and we
> don't know how much is out there.

And yet countries with more people than us burn up less gas than us.
Despite maintaining other indicators of prosperity.

>  Birth control,
> coupled with life extension, gives us fewer young
> workers to account for a growing ## of elderly.

And productivity itself is at an all time high.

> That doesn't compute.  We need to stop suppressing
> measles, influenza, malaria & tuberculosis, to get
> back on track!

Cute, but those diseases bring down productivity, as family members
leave work to foolishly care for their loved ones who should die,
anyway, for the greater good.

Try education, women's rights, free birth control, and forced
sterilization for anyone who advocates killing lots of people on
USENET.

2966 Dead

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May 10, 2012, 1:20:18 PM5/10/12
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No, we need to put an end to hunger, shelter everyone, and give everyone
a reasonably secure life.

People who don't suffer from hunger anxiety or worry that none of their
children will live to be adults don't have population explosions. That's
why nations that have a decent standard of living for the population have
ZPG or near enough as makes no difference.

2966 Dead

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May 10, 2012, 1:32:26 PM5/10/12
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On Thu, 10 May 2012 09:21:27 -0700, Foxtrot wrote:

> 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>
>>http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/441-occupy/11349-focus-occupys-
liberation-from-liberalism
>>
>>Occupy's Liberation From Liberalism
>
>>Occupy Wall Street: Take the Bull by the Horns
>>
>>
>>he US press seems to have decided that the Occupy movement is no longer
>>a story. Pretty much no matter what we do. In New York, on May Day,
>>something between 50,000 and 100,000 people marched through the streets
>>– we don't know the exact numbers because most papers didn't report the
>>event at all, and therefore, didn't bother to make estimates. In
>>California, there were blockades and walkouts. In Seattle, one band of
>>protestors relived the famous Black Bloc actions of November 1999,
>>smashing many of the same corporate windows – and even that didn't make
>>national news!
>
> Waaaah nobody is paying attention to us! Then we'll scream and cry even
> louder!

Being a frightened little bourgeois, you'll frantically squeeze your eyes
shut and convince yourself your masters will protect you from the scary
hippies.

dav...@agent.com

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May 10, 2012, 3:25:33 PM5/10/12
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2966 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote:

> davidp wrote:
>> 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>
>>>...called not just for the usual battle against austerity,
>>> but to the revolutionary transformation of society:
>>
>> We're in the midst of a population bubble, Dude, global oil demand is
>> 88.7 million bbl/day, and we don't know how much is out there. Birth
>> control, coupled with life extension, gives us fewer young workers to
>> account for a growing ## of elderly. That doesn't compute. We need to
>> stop suppressing measles, influenza, malaria & tuberculosis, to get back
>> on track!
>
>We need to put an end to hunger, shelter everyone, & give everyone
>a reasonably secure life.

Suppressing those diseases allows weaker forms to proliferate,
increasing the burden on the strong producers. Better to go
along with Mother Nature. See a disease/cure a disease is WAY
too simplistic. You ain't gonna get better food/shelter/security
while we still have breakdowns in diplomacy, and as long as the
oil demand is so high, those breakdowns are inevitable. Lower
population allows city sprawl to shrink, so less driving is needed,
less oil demand.

2966 Dead

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May 10, 2012, 3:51:16 PM5/10/12
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On Thu, 10 May 2012 15:25:33 -0400, davidp wrote:

> 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>
>> davidp wrote:
>>> 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>...called not just for the usual battle against austerity,
>>>> but to the revolutionary transformation of society:
>>>
>>> We're in the midst of a population bubble, Dude, global oil demand is
>>> 88.7 million bbl/day, and we don't know how much is out there. Birth
>>> control, coupled with life extension, gives us fewer young workers to
>>> account for a growing ## of elderly. That doesn't compute. We need to
>>> stop suppressing measles, influenza, malaria & tuberculosis, to get
>>> back on track!
>>
>>We need to put an end to hunger, shelter everyone, & give everyone a
>>reasonably secure life.
>
> Suppressing those diseases allows weaker forms to proliferate,
> increasing the burden on the strong producers.

Oh, excuse me. I thought I was talking to a sane human being. Never
mind.

Steve

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May 10, 2012, 5:36:43 PM5/10/12
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On Thu, 10 May 2012 17:20:18 +0000 (UTC), 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 10 May 2012 12:21:42 -0400, davidp wrote:
>
>> 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>
>>>...called not just for the usual battle against austerity,
>>> but to the revolutionary transformation of society:
>>
>> We're in the midst of a population bubble, Dude, global oil demand is
>> 88.7 million bbl/day, and we don't know how much is out there. Birth
>> control, coupled with life extension, gives us fewer young workers to
>> account for a growing ## of elderly. That doesn't compute. We need to
>> stop suppressing measles, influenza, malaria & tuberculosis, to get back
>> on track!
>
>No, we need to put an end to hunger, shelter everyone, and give everyone
>a reasonably secure life.

Whenever you see Jamieson talking about what "we need to do," you can
be sure that he's looking for a way to get some of your money into his
pocket.

Steve

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May 10, 2012, 5:36:43 PM5/10/12
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On Thu, 10 May 2012 17:32:26 +0000 (UTC), 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 10 May 2012 09:21:27 -0700, Foxtrot wrote:
>
>> 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>
>>>http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/441-occupy/11349-focus-occupys-
>liberation-from-liberalism
>>>
>>>Occupy's Liberation From Liberalism
>>
>>>Occupy Wall Street: Take the Bull by the Horns
>>>
>>>
>>>he US press seems to have decided that the Occupy movement is no longer
>>>a story. Pretty much no matter what we do. In New York, on May Day,
>>>something between 50,000 and 100,000 people marched through the streets
>>>? we don't know the exact numbers because most papers didn't report the
>>>event at all, and therefore, didn't bother to make estimates. In
>>>California, there were blockades and walkouts. In Seattle, one band of
>>>protestors relived the famous Black Bloc actions of November 1999,
>>>smashing many of the same corporate windows ? and even that didn't make
>>>national news!
>>
>> Waaaah nobody is paying attention to us! Then we'll scream and cry even
>> louder!
>
>Being a frightened little bourgeois, you'll frantically squeeze your eyes
>shut and convince yourself your masters will protect you from the scary
>hippies.

The occupiers aren't particularly scary. The occupy Tampa freaks
can't even scare the squirrels out of the park. It's fun to walk down
the street and watch them scurry out of your way...

dav...@agent.com

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May 10, 2012, 9:54:02 PM5/10/12
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2966 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote:

>davidp wrote:
>> 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>> davidp wrote:
>>>> 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>...called not just for the usual battle against austerity,
>>>>> but to the revolutionary transformation of society:
>>>>
>>>> We're in the midst of a population bubble, Dude, global oil demand is
>>>> 88.7 million bbl/day, and we don't know how much is out there. Birth
>>>> control, coupled with life extension, gives us fewer young workers to
>>>> account for a growing ## of elderly. That doesn't compute. We need to
>>>> stop suppressing measles, influenza, malaria & tuberculosis, to get
>>>> back on track!
>>>
>>>We need to put an end to hunger, shelter everyone, & give everyone a
>>>reasonably secure life.
>>
>> Suppressing those diseases allows weaker forms to proliferate,
>> increasing the burden on the strong producers.
>
>Oh, I thought I was talking to a sane human being. Never mind.

Autism, ADHD, Bipolar, Lupus, Obesity, all up significantly since
the 60s, with widespread immunization. WAYY too much to be
just a coincidence!
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Slackjaw

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May 11, 2012, 7:49:58 AM5/11/12
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2966 Dead wrote:

> On Thu, 10 May 2012 09:21:27 -0700, Foxtrot wrote:
>
> > 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote:
> >
> > > http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/441-occupy/11349-focus-occ
> > > upys-
> liberation-from-liberalism
> > >
> > > Occupy's Liberation From Liberalism
> >
> > > Occupy Wall Street: Take the Bull by the Horns
> >>
> >>
> > > he US press seems to have decided that the Occupy movement is no
> > > longer a story. Pretty much no matter what we do. In New York, on
> > > May Day, something between 50,000 and 100,000 people marched
> > > through the streets – we don't know the exact numbers because
> > > most papers didn't report the event at all, and therefore, didn't
> > > bother to make estimates. In California, there were blockades and
> > > walkouts. In Seattle, one band of protestors relived the famous
> > > Black Bloc actions of November 1999, smashing many of the same
> > > corporate windows – and even that didn't make national news!
> >
> > Waaaah nobody is paying attention to us! Then we'll scream and cry
> > even louder!

Public interest has been quelled by all the rapes, assaults, thefts,
public defecations, and other "occupy" behavior. Decent people want
nothing to do with them.

>
> Being a frightened little bourgeois, you'll frantically squeeze your
> eyes shut and convince yourself your masters will protect you from
> the scary hippies.
> >
> > Believe me, the media is doing you a big favor. They're sparing you
> > the embarrassment of telling normal Americans how you throw rocks
> > at police and wallow in your feces in urine.
> >
> > > The words might be diplomatically chosen, but there's no
> > > mistaking what tradition is being invoked here. In endorsing a
> > > vision of universal equality, of the dissolution of national
> > > borders, and democratic self- governing communities, nurses, bus
> > > drivers, and construction workers at the heart of America's
> > > greatest capitalist metropolis are signing on to the vision, if
> > > not the tactics, of revolutionary anarchism.
> >
> > Finally in the last paragraph the author gets to his point--the
> > threat of sabotaging our great nation with anarchy.
> >
> > This is why the mainstream media is helping you by hiding you, park
> > crappers.



--
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---

2966 Dead

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On Fri, 11 May 2012 11:49:58 +0000, Slackjaw wrote:

> 2966 Dead wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 10 May 2012 09:21:27 -0700, Foxtrot wrote:
>>
>> > 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/441-occupy/11349-focus-occ
>> > > upys-
>> liberation-from-liberalism
>> > >
>> > > Occupy's Liberation From Liberalism
>> >
>> > > Occupy Wall Street: Take the Bull by the Horns
>> >>
>> >>
>> > > he US press seems to have decided that the Occupy movement is no
>> > > longer a story. Pretty much no matter what we do. In New York, on
>> > > May Day, something between 50,000 and 100,000 people marched
>> > > through the streets – we don't know the exact numbers because most
>> > > papers didn't report the event at all, and therefore, didn't bother
>> > > to make estimates. In California, there were blockades and
>> > > walkouts. In Seattle, one band of protestors relived the famous
>> > > Black Bloc actions of November 1999, smashing many of the same
>> > > corporate windows – and even that didn't make national news!
>> >
>> > Waaaah nobody is paying attention to us! Then we'll scream and cry
>> > even louder!
>
> Public interest has been quelled by all the rapes, assaults, thefts,
> public defecations, and other "occupy" behavior. Decent people want
> nothing to do with them.

"Public interest" of course being defined by the captive elements of
America's once-proud news media. Faux News will tell you Occupy is dead,
but obsess about it for years anyway. They know you're too stupid to
ever ask why they waste so much time obsessing over something they insist
is not relevant.

Steve

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On Fri, 11 May 2012 14:39:11 +0000 (UTC), 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 11 May 2012 11:49:58 +0000, Slackjaw wrote:
>
>> 2966 Dead wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 10 May 2012 09:21:27 -0700, Foxtrot wrote:
>>>
>>> > 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/441-occupy/11349-focus-occ
>>> > > upys-
>>> liberation-from-liberalism
>>> > >
>>> > > Occupy's Liberation From Liberalism
>>> >
>>> > > Occupy Wall Street: Take the Bull by the Horns
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> > > he US press seems to have decided that the Occupy movement is no
>>> > > longer a story. Pretty much no matter what we do. In New York, on
>>> > > May Day, something between 50,000 and 100,000 people marched
>>> > > through the streets ? we don't know the exact numbers because most
>>> > > papers didn't report the event at all, and therefore, didn't bother
>>> > > to make estimates. In California, there were blockades and
>>> > > walkouts. In Seattle, one band of protestors relived the famous
>>> > > Black Bloc actions of November 1999, smashing many of the same
>>> > > corporate windows ? and even that didn't make national news!
>>> >
>>> > Waaaah nobody is paying attention to us! Then we'll scream and cry
>>> > even louder!
>>
>> Public interest has been quelled by all the rapes, assaults, thefts,
>> public defecations, and other "occupy" behavior. Decent people want
>> nothing to do with them.
>
>"Public interest" of course being defined by the captive elements of
>America's once-proud news media. Faux News will tell you Occupy is dead,
>but obsess about it for years anyway. They know you're too stupid to
>ever ask why they waste so much time obsessing over something they insist
>is not relevant.

I think Fox News sees the occupy thing as most people see it.. as
something to be laughed at.

The occupy thing is a joke without a punch line.

Slackjaw

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May 12, 2012, 12:24:12 AM5/12/12
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Steve wrote:

> >> Public interest has been quelled by all the rapes, assaults,
> thefts, >> public defecations, and other "occupy" behavior. Decent
> people want >> nothing to do with them.
> >
> > "Public interest" of course being defined by the captive elements
> > of America's once-proud news media. Faux News will tell you Occupy
> > is dead, but obsess about it for years anyway. They know you're
> > too stupid to ever ask why they waste so much time obsessing over
> > something they insist is not relevant.


Actually, I have not seen anything about them on Fox News, it was all
from other sources.

It appears you're the one who obsessed - with Fox News. It's the bogey
man in your warped, diseased little mind.

>
> I think Fox News sees the occupy thing as most people see it.. as
> something to be laughed at.

And also a danger - a breeding ground for disease and crime.

>
> The occupy thing is a joke without a punch line.



2966 Dead

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On Sat, 12 May 2012 04:24:12 +0000, Slackjaw wrote:

> Steve wrote:
>
>> >> Public interest has been quelled by all the rapes, assaults,
>> thefts, >> public defecations, and other "occupy" behavior. Decent
>> people want >> nothing to do with them.
>> >
>> > "Public interest" of course being defined by the captive elements of
>> > America's once-proud news media. Faux News will tell you Occupy is
>> > dead, but obsess about it for years anyway. They know you're too
>> > stupid to ever ask why they waste so much time obsessing over
>> > something they insist is not relevant.
>
>
> Actually, I have not seen anything about them on Fox News, it was all
> from other sources.

Oh, do tell.
>
> It appears you're the one who obsessed - with Fox News. It's the bogey
> man in your warped, diseased little mind.

I think Murdoch and his criminal operation are filth and have done
immense damage to America.

Steve

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On Sat, 12 May 2012 14:23:59 +0000 (UTC), 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 12 May 2012 04:24:12 +0000, Slackjaw wrote:
>
>> Steve wrote:
>>
>>> >> Public interest has been quelled by all the rapes, assaults,
>>> thefts, >> public defecations, and other "occupy" behavior. Decent
>>> people want >> nothing to do with them.
>>> >
>>> > "Public interest" of course being defined by the captive elements of
>>> > America's once-proud news media. Faux News will tell you Occupy is
>>> > dead, but obsess about it for years anyway. They know you're too
>>> > stupid to ever ask why they waste so much time obsessing over
>>> > something they insist is not relevant.
>>
>>
>> Actually, I have not seen anything about them on Fox News, it was all
>> from other sources.
>
>Oh, do tell.
>>
>> It appears you're the one who obsessed - with Fox News. It's the bogey
>> man in your warped, diseased little mind.
>
>I think Murdoch and his criminal operation are filth and have done
>immense damage to America.

<CHUCKLES> Jamieson hates anything that contradicts his fantasies...
Of course he also hates anything that exposes his true self.. like
below:


That's from David (Zepp) Jamieson who apparently refused to
allow the woman he claims to still be married to use of his
Internet account, and then when she got fined for broken tail
lights and failure to licence the family pets, he refused to
help her pay the fines and then after a decade, she was forced
to do community service.

The truth may be that Zepp has been lying about still being
married to her and instead, she left him for reasons Zepp doesn't
want to admit.

What's porky hiding here?

Slackjaw

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2966 Dead wrote:

> On Sat, 12 May 2012 04:24:12 +0000, Slackjaw wrote:
>
> > Steve wrote:
> >
> >> >> Public interest has been quelled by all the rapes, assaults,
> >> thefts, >> public defecations, and other "occupy" behavior. Decent
> >> people want >> nothing to do with them.
> >> >
> >> > "Public interest" of course being defined by the captive
> elements of >> > America's once-proud news media. Faux News will
> tell you Occupy is >> > dead, but obsess about it for years anyway.
> They know you're too >> > stupid to ever ask why they waste so much
> time obsessing over >> > something they insist is not relevant.
> >
> >
> > Actually, I have not seen anything about them on Fox News, it was
> > all from other sources.
>
> Oh, do tell.
> >
> > It appears you're the one who obsessed - with Fox News. It's the
> > bogey man in your warped, diseased little mind.
>
> I think Murdoch and his criminal operation are filth and have done
> immense damage to America.


So now you're back-tracking from your previous statements?

You now, I don't deliberately go out of my way to make a fool out of
you, Zepp. I just tell then truth - how that reflects on you is
entirely up to you, and you alone.



> >
> >
> >> I think Fox News sees the occupy thing as most people see it.. as
> >> something to be laughed at.
> >
> > And also a danger - a breeding ground for disease and crime.
> >
> >
> >> The occupy thing is a joke without a punch line.



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On Sun, 13 May 2012 03:09:26 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote:

> Where do I contribute to the pepper-spray fund ?
> Likely it's gonna take a LOT of pepper spray to deal with these pinkos.
> Ordinary police budgets may not be adequate.

Aren't you about due to do more strutting over what a great libertarian
you are?
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May 13, 2012, 3:09:11 PM5/13/12
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On Sun, 13 May 2012 13:02:15 -0600, Yoorghis wrote:
> Mayhaps he's tripped over his pants around his ankles?

American right wingers are an amazing breed who can strut and cringe all
at the same time.

Steve

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May 13, 2012, 5:05:34 PM5/13/12
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On Sun, 13 May 2012 19:09:11 +0000 (UTC), 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 13 May 2012 13:02:15 -0600, Yoorghis wrote:
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>> On Sun, 13 May 2012 15:35:15 +0000 (UTC), 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com>
>> wrote:
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>>>On Sun, 13 May 2012 03:09:26 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Where do I contribute to the pepper-spray fund ?
>>>> Likely it's gonna take a LOT of pepper spray to deal with these
>>>> pinkos.
>>>> Ordinary police budgets may not be adequate.
>>>
>>>Aren't you about due to do more strutting over what a great libertarian
>>>you are?
>>
>> Mayhaps he's tripped over his pants around his ankles?
>
>American right wingers are an amazing breed who can strut and cringe all
>at the same time.


Leftists are people whose heroes poop in the street.

Milt

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May 13, 2012, 7:54:09 PM5/13/12
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On May 13, 5:05 pm, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2012 19:09:11 +0000 (UTC), 2966 Dead <d...@gone.com>
> wrote:
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> >On Sun, 13 May 2012 13:02:15 -0600, Yoorghis wrote:
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> >> On Sun, 13 May 2012 15:35:15 +0000 (UTC), 2966 Dead <d...@gone.com>
> >> wrote:
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> >>>On Sun, 13 May 2012 03:09:26 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote:
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> >>>> Where do I contribute to the pepper-spray fund ?
> >>>> Likely it's gonna take a LOT of pepper spray to deal with these
> >>>> pinkos.
> >>>> Ordinary police budgets may not be adequate.
>
> >>>Aren't you about due to do more strutting over what a great libertarian
> >>>you are?
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> >> Mayhaps he's tripped over his pants around his ankles?
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> >American right wingers are an amazing breed who can strut and cringe all
> >at the same time.
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> Leftists are people whose heroes poop in the street.

Right wingers are assholes who shit on the poor while they're kissing
the asses of the rich, in the vain hope that they'll get something
from it.
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2966 Dead

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May 14, 2012, 12:27:47 PM5/14/12
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On Mon, 14 May 2012 10:44:03 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote:

> 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote:
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> Even libertarians know BS when we see it ... and the 'occupiers' are
> BS - overly-entitled brats whose parents forgot to spank them when
> they were bratty kids. I doubt even Jefferson would have had any
> sympathy for 'em, much less Obama or Romney.

My, they've got you scared, don't they, little belly-crawler?

Amazing how you clowns can strut and cringe all at the same time.
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> Let 'em come back later, with better, more focused, more reasoned
> arguments and methods. I do not disagree that the distribution of
> wealth has drifted a bit too far towards concentration and I don't
> disagree that Big Money ought to have some Big Responsibility for the
> mess it's made of the global economy. However the 'occupiers' are NOT
> the answer - more of an anti-answer. I'd almost swear they were
> invented BY Big Money to discredit anyone looking to expand the
> middle class.

Liberal Here

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May 14, 2012, 12:34:58 PM5/14/12
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On May 13, 3:09 am, Mr.B1ack <b...@barrk.net> wrote:
> Where do I contribute to the pepper-spray fund ?
> Likely it's gonna take a LOT of pepper spray to
> deal with these pinkos. Ordinary police budgets
> may not be adequate.

Seig Heil, Herr commandant. Investing in oven manufacturers again?

I knew a punkass like you in college. I was back from my military
duty. We sat in the Student Union watching the TV there, showing anti-
Vietnam protests. He whined and cried, as you do, about those
unAmerican protesters. I asked why he was in college and not the rice
paddies of Vietnam. He said he wanted to be an officer, his degree
would get him OCS and a commission. Then the 2S student deferment was
eliminated. He immediately ran to another local college to enroll in
ROTC. Then came the "LOTTERY" . His number was over 300, no chance to
be drafted. He jumped up to leave. I asked him where he was going."To
quit ROTC!!!!" "Dontcha wanna be an officier, leading a patrol in the
jungle hells of Vietnam?" "Fuck NO!"

That's what you are: a loud-mouth, anti-America reichtard fascist
shit.

You, like Timmy, bitch, moan, and condemn those who want what you want.
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May 14, 2012, 3:43:46 PM5/14/12
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On Mon, 14 May 2012 16:27:47 +0000 (UTC), 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 14 May 2012 10:44:03 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote:
>
>> 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 13 May 2012 03:09:26 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Where do I contribute to the pepper-spray fund ?
>>>> Likely it's gonna take a LOT of pepper spray to deal with these
>>>> pinkos.
>>>> Ordinary police budgets may not be adequate.
>>>
>>>Aren't you about due to do more strutting over what a great libertarian
>>>you are?
>>
>>
>> Even libertarians know BS when we see it ... and the 'occupiers' are
>> BS - overly-entitled brats whose parents forgot to spank them when
>> they were bratty kids. I doubt even Jefferson would have had any
>> sympathy for 'em, much less Obama or Romney.
>
>My, they've got you scared, don't they, little belly-crawler?

One the occupiers are done occupying, the city will hire a few of them
at minimum wage to clean up the mess they made.. just like before...

Steve

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May 14, 2012, 7:07:06 PM5/14/12
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On Sun, 13 May 2012 16:54:09 -0700 (PDT), Milt <milt....@gmail.com>
wrote:
I got mine, Shook.. <LOL> and you cashed yours in to chase down a
woman in Australia who told you to get lost...

linuxgal

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May 19, 2012, 10:11:17 PM5/19/12
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Milt wrote:

> Right wingers are assholes who shit on the poor...

I'm sure you mean that as a metaphor. Left-wingers, on the other hand,
shit on police cars. Literally.
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