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India is taking away our jobs, not going to happen anymore: Donald Trump
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hari--kumar
Jul 30, 2016, 8:28:03 PM7/30/16
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http://indianexpress.com/article/world/world-news/us-presidential-election-donald-trump-again-blames-india-for-taking-away-american-jobs/
"They are taking our jobs. China is taking our jobs. Japan is taking our
jobs. India is taking our jobs. It is not going to happen anymore,
folks!" Trump told to thunderous applause from the audience.
john simmons
Jul 30, 2016, 9:04:25 PM7/30/16
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tt
Jul 31, 2016, 2:47:38 PM7/31/16
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Mr. B1ack
Aug 1, 2016, 9:29:31 PM8/1/16
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quality of life. While we have to do a fair amount of
business with other countries we don't have to be
so eager to grab the short end of the stick while
doing so. That's a political problem.
The other half of the equation is business logic - your
company will make more profit if you use cheap labor
overseas. Of course eventually nobody will have enough
spare cash to buy whatver you're selling, but biz logic
tends to be about the shorter term - no short term and
there's not gonna be a long term.
This is less of a political problem and thus harder for
Trump to deal with. The issue isn't in grand treaties
but down at the level of individual business owners.
Trying to change their behavior ... well ... that dirty
word "protectionism" may come into the conversation.
Still, dealing with problems in the big trade agreements
MAY be enough to tilt us into the black ... just not by
all that much. He'd have to TRY to get biz to use
domestic labor & facilities - but he's gonna have to
explain how that's gonna work without pushing
prices out of reach.
Hey, if any of this stuff was easy they'd have been
doing it right for ten thousand years already .....
Governor Swill
Aug 2, 2016, 3:38:25 PM8/2/16
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On Mon, 01 Aug Mr. B1ack wrote:
"protection". Maybe it's the junk you choose to click on.
> The overall cash drain limits your opportunities and
> quality of life. While we have to do a fair amount of
> business with other countries we don't have to be
> so eager to grab the short end of the stick while
> doing so. That's a political problem.
That's an illusion. The "good paying jobs" that have disappeared were
repetitive motion manufacturing jobs now taken by robots and other
automation technologies. Secretaries have been hard hit as their work
has been replaced by word processors, voice mail, computers and smart
phones. Are there any answering services left in America? How many
businesses still have "steno pools" lower managers or secretaries for
their mid level execs? None.
The new "good paying jobs" that have appeared require levels of
education blue collars can't or won't invest their time or money in.
They're so far behind the times, they still expect to get a good job
with just a high school diploma.
There are plenty of good paying jobs and the reason they're going to
Asia, or Asians are coming here to do them, is because they prioritize
education above all other accomplishments for their children. Unlike
America, Asians value an "A" in science is more prized by parents than
a spot on the first string varsity team.
That used to be true in America.
> The other half of the equation is business logic - your
> company will make more profit if you use cheap labor
> overseas. Of course eventually nobody will have enough
> spare cash to buy whatver you're selling, but biz logic
> tends to be about the shorter term - no short term and
> there's not gonna be a long term.
"In his quest for the Republican presidential nomination, Mr. Trump
has stoked his crowds by promising to bring back jobs that have been
snatched by illegal immigrants or outsourced by corporations, and
voters worried about immigration have been his strongest backers.
"But he has also pursued more than 500 visas for foreign workers at
Mar-a-Lago since 2010, according to the United States Department of
Labor, while hundreds of domestic applicants failed to get the same
jobs."
<http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/us/politics/donald-trump-taps-foreign-work-force-for-his-florida-club.html?_r=0>
If he won't keep his promises *during* his campaign, what makes you
think he'd keep them *after*?
> This is less of a political problem and thus harder for
> Trump to deal with. The issue isn't in grand treaties
> but down at the level of individual business owners.
> Trying to change their behavior ... well ... that dirty
> word "protectionism" may come into the conversation.
No need for that. Just require everify to keep the illegals out, and
make secondary education affordable for blue collar families to keep
the Asians out.
But the Republicans aren't going to do that and neither is their
favorite billionaire. It might cost them a few pennies on the dollar
to invest that heavily in their own country. Much better to invest
abroad in other, already fast growing economies and hide excess cash
offshore than to invest in growth at home.
> Still, dealing with problems in the big trade agreements
> MAY be enough to tilt us into the black ... just not by
> all that much. He'd have to TRY to get biz to use
> domestic labor & facilities - but he's gonna have to
> explain how that's gonna work without pushing
> prices out of reach.
That'll make it worse. If we start abrogating trade treaties, the
ensuing trade war will do more damage than good.
> Hey, if any of this stuff was easy they'd have been
> doing it right for ten thousand years already .....
"Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has told would-be donors
that he wants former Goldman Sachs banker Steven Mnuchin to serve as
his Treasury secretary, according to a Tuesday report in Fortune."
Breaking News at Newsmax.com
<http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/trump-mnuchin-treasury/2016/07/20/id/739541/#ixzz4GCkMMuiU>
It seems Trump continues to break promises to his voters before he's
elected. The epitome of the outsider, Trump, along with his voters
who complain loudly about Clinton's Wall Street connections, wants a
Goldman Sachs executive for Treasury Secretary. You don't snuggle
much closer to Wall Street than by handing Goldman Sachs the keys to
the US Treasury.
Swill
--
#imwithher
"[With Hillary Clinton] our international relations will not be reduced
to a business transaction." - Marine 4 star General John Allen (ret.)
>On Sat, 30 Jul john simmons wrote:
>>On Saturday, July 30, hari--kumar wrote:
http://indianexpress.com/article/world/world-news/us-presidential-election-donald-trump-again-blames-india-for-taking-away-american-jobs/
>>> "They are taking our jobs. China is taking our jobs. Japan is taking our
>>> jobs. India is taking our jobs. It is not going to happen anymore,
>>> folks!" Trump told to thunderous applause from the audience.
>>
>>if the hackers in northern india would stop the pop ups and trying
>>to sell us protection...that is the only thing i can think of that
>>affects my life....jz
I don't have any problems with popups or ads trying to sell me
>>On Saturday, July 30, hari--kumar wrote:
http://indianexpress.com/article/world/world-news/us-presidential-election-donald-trump-again-blames-india-for-taking-away-american-jobs/
>>> "They are taking our jobs. China is taking our jobs. Japan is taking our
>>> jobs. India is taking our jobs. It is not going to happen anymore,
>>> folks!" Trump told to thunderous applause from the audience.
>>
>>if the hackers in northern india would stop the pop ups and trying
>>to sell us protection...that is the only thing i can think of that
>>affects my life....jz
"protection". Maybe it's the junk you choose to click on.
> The overall cash drain limits your opportunities and
> quality of life. While we have to do a fair amount of
> business with other countries we don't have to be
> so eager to grab the short end of the stick while
> doing so. That's a political problem.
repetitive motion manufacturing jobs now taken by robots and other
automation technologies. Secretaries have been hard hit as their work
has been replaced by word processors, voice mail, computers and smart
phones. Are there any answering services left in America? How many
businesses still have "steno pools" lower managers or secretaries for
their mid level execs? None.
The new "good paying jobs" that have appeared require levels of
education blue collars can't or won't invest their time or money in.
They're so far behind the times, they still expect to get a good job
with just a high school diploma.
There are plenty of good paying jobs and the reason they're going to
Asia, or Asians are coming here to do them, is because they prioritize
education above all other accomplishments for their children. Unlike
America, Asians value an "A" in science is more prized by parents than
a spot on the first string varsity team.
That used to be true in America.
> The other half of the equation is business logic - your
> company will make more profit if you use cheap labor
> overseas. Of course eventually nobody will have enough
> spare cash to buy whatver you're selling, but biz logic
> tends to be about the shorter term - no short term and
> there's not gonna be a long term.
has stoked his crowds by promising to bring back jobs that have been
snatched by illegal immigrants or outsourced by corporations, and
voters worried about immigration have been his strongest backers.
"But he has also pursued more than 500 visas for foreign workers at
Mar-a-Lago since 2010, according to the United States Department of
Labor, while hundreds of domestic applicants failed to get the same
jobs."
<http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/us/politics/donald-trump-taps-foreign-work-force-for-his-florida-club.html?_r=0>
If he won't keep his promises *during* his campaign, what makes you
think he'd keep them *after*?
> This is less of a political problem and thus harder for
> Trump to deal with. The issue isn't in grand treaties
> but down at the level of individual business owners.
> Trying to change their behavior ... well ... that dirty
> word "protectionism" may come into the conversation.
make secondary education affordable for blue collar families to keep
the Asians out.
But the Republicans aren't going to do that and neither is their
favorite billionaire. It might cost them a few pennies on the dollar
to invest that heavily in their own country. Much better to invest
abroad in other, already fast growing economies and hide excess cash
offshore than to invest in growth at home.
> Still, dealing with problems in the big trade agreements
> MAY be enough to tilt us into the black ... just not by
> all that much. He'd have to TRY to get biz to use
> domestic labor & facilities - but he's gonna have to
> explain how that's gonna work without pushing
> prices out of reach.
ensuing trade war will do more damage than good.
> Hey, if any of this stuff was easy they'd have been
> doing it right for ten thousand years already .....
that he wants former Goldman Sachs banker Steven Mnuchin to serve as
his Treasury secretary, according to a Tuesday report in Fortune."
Breaking News at Newsmax.com
<http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/trump-mnuchin-treasury/2016/07/20/id/739541/#ixzz4GCkMMuiU>
It seems Trump continues to break promises to his voters before he's
elected. The epitome of the outsider, Trump, along with his voters
who complain loudly about Clinton's Wall Street connections, wants a
Goldman Sachs executive for Treasury Secretary. You don't snuggle
much closer to Wall Street than by handing Goldman Sachs the keys to
the US Treasury.
Swill
--
#imwithher
"[With Hillary Clinton] our international relations will not be reduced
to a business transaction." - Marine 4 star General John Allen (ret.)
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