Court: Chicago Can Contine Gun Suit
Harry Hope
From The Associated Press, 11/5/02:
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-gun-lawsuit1105nov05,0,1865186.story?coll=sns%2Dap%2Dnationworld%2Dheadlines
Court: Chicago Can Contine Gun Suit
CHICAGO --
More than two years after a lower court dismissed Chicago's lawsuit
against the gun industry, an appellate court ruled that the city can
move forward with its landmark $433 million case.
In 1998, Mayor Richard M. Daley sued 22 gun manufacturers, including
Beretta, Colt, Smith & Wesson and Browning, four gun distributors and
12 suburban gun shops.
He accused them of creating a public nuisance with their products.
The lawsuit was filed after an undercover investigation by Chicago
police officers posing as straw purchasers -- people with state
firearms owner identification cards who buy guns for those who lack
such cards, usually because they have criminal records and are
ineligible.
Daley has said that the $433 million is related to the cost of police,
medical and other services related to gun violence over four years.
"This is an important victory for gun victims and cities and local
governments that are trying to stem the tide of violence," said
Jonathan Lowy of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
_______________________________________________
Harry
Russell G.
After all, over 50,000 people die in auto "accidents"
each year.
How about all them alcohol manufacturers? Their crimes
are even more manifest. Not only do we have to pay for
the lives wracked with liver disease, but don't forget about
all of the fights and carrying on people do while "under
the influence."
Don't forget the hapless homeowner. After all, if you own
a gun, it will get stolen. Therefore, you are guilty of adding
to the problems of "gun violence."
What stupidity, to file a lawsuit such as this. If it continues,
kiss your "freedoms" goodbye.
Russell G.
"Harry Hope" <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:lqufsug702pd679l4...@4ax.com...
The Lone Weasel
lawsuit1105nov05,0,3325295.story
Court: Chicago Can Contine Gun Suit
By Associated Press
November 5, 2002, 7:39 AM EST
CHICAGO -- More than two years after a lower court dismissed
Chicago's lawsuit against the gun industry, an appellate court ruled
that the city can move forward with its landmark $433 million case.
In 1998, Mayor Richard M. Daley sued 22 gun manufacturers, including
Beretta, Colt, Smith & Wesson and Browning, four gun distributors
and 12 suburban gun shops. He accused them of creating a public
nuisance with their products.
The lawsuit was filed after an undercover investigation by Chicago
police officers posing as straw purchasers -- people with state
firearms owner identification cards who buy guns for those who lack
such cards, usually because they have criminal records and are
ineligible.
Daley has said that the $433 million is related to the cost of
police, medical and other services related to gun violence over four
years.
"This is an important victory for gun victims and cities and local
governments that are trying to stem the tide of violence," said
Jonathan Lowy of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
But Richard Pearson of the Illinois State Rifle Association said the
ruling was "ludicrous."
"They are out to wipe out firearms dealers one way or another," he
said. "If this can be done with firearms, what about the getaway car
used in robberies or the baseball bat someone uses in a beating or
the computer the auditor uses to doctor documents?"
Copyright © 2002, The Associated Press
"Oh well..."
_____________
Appeals court reinstates gun lawsuit
BY BILL DOLAN Times Staff Writer Posted on Saturday, September
21, 2002
GARY -- The Indiana Court of Appeals is reinstating part of a
lawsuit filed by Gary city officials to punish area gun dealers
whose weapons sales the city claims have become a public
nuisance.
The high court announced Friday a Lake Superior Court judge was
wrong last year to dismiss a civil suit by the city of Gary
against Cash Indiana of Burns Harbor and Lake Station, Ameri-Pawn
of Lake Station and Blythe’s Sport Shop of Valparaiso seeking
damages for gun violence that has plagued that city for decades.
Attorneys for Gary and the dealers couldn't be reached Friday
night for comment.
--
Yours truly,
The Lone Weasel
William A. Levinson
The Lone Weasel wrote:
> http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-gun-
> lawsuit1105nov05,0,3325295.story
>
> Court: Chicago Can Contine Gun Suit
>
> By Associated Press
>
> November 5, 2002, 7:39 AM EST
>
> CHICAGO -- More than two years after a lower court dismissed
> Chicago's lawsuit against the gun industry, an appellate court ruled
> that the city can move forward with its landmark $433 million case.
>
> In 1998, Mayor Richard M. Daley sued 22 gun manufacturers, including
> Beretta, Colt, Smith & Wesson and Browning, four gun distributors
> and 12 suburban gun shops. He accused them of creating a public
> nuisance with their products.
>
> The lawsuit was filed after an undercover investigation by Chicago
> police officers posing as straw purchasers -- people with state
> firearms owner identification cards who buy guns for those who lack
> such cards, usually because they have criminal records and are
> ineligible.
>
> Daley has said that the $433 million is related to the cost of
> police, medical and other services related to gun violence over four
> years.
>
> "This is an important victory for gun victims and cities and local
> governments that are trying to stem the tide of violence," said
> Jonathan Lowy of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
Why the hell can't someone go into court and discredit these sons of
b***hes? http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/mmm/ has plenty of dirt on
the Million Mom March (now part of the Brady Center), and
http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/dirty.html has dirt on the entire gun
control movement.
I broke the Million Mom March's back. Do I have to do EVERYTHING around
here???
--Bill
The Lone Weasel
news:3DC89908...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com:
Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh.
This is supposed to be a nation founded on laws - not dirt,
Shitorian.
Maybe you're just exposing something intimately personal.
(now part of the Brady Center), and
> http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/dirty.html has dirt on the
> entire gun control movement.
You know Shitorian, gun control isn't really a movement; it's a
function of the internal police power, been around more than two
centuries in this country, not controversial or even arguable re:
its existence, history, function, constitutional basis etc.
Your dirt's just 20 years old and pure horseshit.
> I broke the Million Mom March's back. Do I have to do EVERYTHING
> around here???
Laugh laugh laugh laugh.
__________________
Pratt has been a featured writer in the hard right "Chalcedon
Report" which once ran on its cover the title "The God Blessedness
of Gun Control". Larry wrote in one of these articles what is a
common theme in Chalcedon circles...the idea that the only basis of
civil law is found in the Old Testament. In one article, Pratt
chided Religious Right marchers for supporting someone like Bob Dole
who was a compromise candidate. To Pratt, compromise is sin and it
is better to sit out an election than support someone like Dole. In
so doing, Pratt is claiming people like Jerry Falwell and Pat
Robertson are moving too far to the left."9"
9. Forty Years of Freedom", NEW AMERICAN, pg. 8.
William A. Levinson
The Lone Weasel wrote:
http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/victory.html
I've been laughing for quite a while.
> This is supposed to be a nation founded on laws - not dirt, Shitorian.
Dirt, unfortunately, determines who gets elected and who doesn't. Those
who get elected make the laws.
> Maybe you're just exposing something intimately personal.
>
> (now part of the Brady Center), and
> > http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/dirty.html has dirt on the
> > entire gun control movement.
>
> You know Shitorian, gun control isn't really a movement;
My intestines make similar movements a couple of times a day.
> it's a function of the internal police power, been around more than
> two
> centuries in this country,
Actually not. Private citizens could own the most destructive weapons in
existence (cannon) during our country's early years. Merchant ships
always had cannon for self-defense against pirates.
> not controversial or even arguable re:
> its existence, history, function, constitutional basis etc.
>
> Your dirt's just 20 years old and pure horseshit.
OK, what parts of http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/dirty.html are NOT
true??? Got you there, Weasel.
> > I broke the Million Mom March's back. Do I have to do EVERYTHING
> > around here???
>
> Laugh laugh laugh laugh.
Why did they have thousands of members and millions of dollars in early
2000, but they have only an office at the Brady Center and a Web site
today???
Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh
> Yours truly,
>
> The Lone Weasel
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a LIBERTARIAN and/or a VETERAN.
--Bill
http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/
David Voth
was kind enough to write:
>http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-gun-
>lawsuit1105nov05,0,3325295.story
>
>Court: Chicago Can Contine Gun Suit
>
>By Associated Press
>
>November 5, 2002, 7:39 AM EST
>
>CHICAGO -- More than two years after a lower court dismissed
>Chicago's lawsuit against the gun industry, an appellate court ruled
>that the city can move forward with its landmark $433 million case.
That's a $433 million pie in the sky, Lee.
>In 1998, Mayor Richard M. Daley sued 22 gun manufacturers, including
>Beretta, Colt, Smith & Wesson and Browning, four gun distributors
>and 12 suburban gun shops. He accused them of creating a public
>nuisance with their products.
Lawyers are going to suck the Windy City dry. They won't collect a
nickel in settlements, and there won't be any court-prescribed remedy
to the non-problem Daley is whining about.
>The lawsuit was filed after an undercover investigation by Chicago
>police officers posing as straw purchasers -- people with state
>firearms owner identification cards who buy guns for those who lack
>such cards, usually because they have criminal records and are
>ineligible.
Making a straw purchase is a crime. So is knowingly selling to a
straw buyer. This is a matter for criminal courts, not civil.
>Daley has said that the $433 million is related to the cost of
>police, medical and other services related to gun violence over four
>years.
Richard M. Daley is the head of one of the largest ongoing criminal
enterprises in the USA.
>"This is an important victory for gun victims and cities and local
>governments that are trying to stem the tide of violence," said
>Jonathan Lowy of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
The decision merely allows the case to go to trial. It's victory for
all the crooked lawyers who will fatten their pockets at the expense
of the citizens of Chicago.
>But Richard Pearson of the Illinois State Rifle Association said the
>ruling was "ludicrous."
Mr. Pearson is right, as usual.
>"They are out to wipe out firearms dealers one way or another," he
>said. "If this can be done with firearms, what about the getaway car
>used in robberies or the baseball bat someone uses in a beating or
>the computer the auditor uses to doctor documents?"
<snip>
--
"People who support the assault-weapons ban do so largely because
they've been led to believe that the banned weapons fire full-auto
like the ones shown during the TV news voiceovers on the subject."
- John Payson
The Lone Weasel
news:emkisu0h3n8hnucs0...@4ax.com:
> On 06 Nov 2002 03:52:22 GMT, The Lone Weasel
> <lonew...@yahoo.com> was kind enough to write:
>
>>http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-gun-
>>lawsuit1105nov05,0,3325295.story
>>
>>Court: Chicago Can Contine Gun Suit
>>
>>By Associated Press
>>
>>November 5, 2002, 7:39 AM EST
>>
>>CHICAGO -- More than two years after a lower court dismissed
>>Chicago's lawsuit against the gun industry, an appellate court
>>ruled that the city can move forward with its landmark $433
>>million case.
>
> That's a $433 million pie in the sky, Lee.
You should know, it's coming out of your pocket.
>>In 1998, Mayor Richard M. Daley sued 22 gun manufacturers,
>>including Beretta, Colt, Smith & Wesson and Browning, four gun
>>distributors and 12 suburban gun shops. He accused them of
>>creating a public nuisance with their products.
>
> Lawyers are going to suck the Windy City dry. They won't collect
> a nickel in settlements, and there won't be any court-prescribed
> remedy to the non-problem Daley is whining about.
Looks like the gun industry'll pass their legal expense on to gun
owners.
Your pockets are awfully deep, Dizzivoth.
>>The lawsuit was filed after an undercover investigation by Chicago
>>police officers posing as straw purchasers -- people with state
>>firearms owner identification cards who buy guns for those who
>>lack such cards, usually because they have criminal records and
>>are ineligible.
>
> Making a straw purchase is a crime. So is knowingly selling to a
> straw buyer. This is a matter for criminal courts, not civil.
You wish.
>>Daley has said that the $433 million is related to the cost of
>>police, medical and other services related to gun violence over
>>four years.
>
> Richard M. Daley is the head of one of the largest ongoing
> criminal enterprises in the USA.
Laugh laugh laugh laugh. I thought you didn't care about the law,
Dizzivoth.
>>"This is an important victory for gun victims and cities and local
>>governments that are trying to stem the tide of violence," said
>>Jonathan Lowy of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
>
> The decision merely allows the case to go to trial. It's victory
> for all the crooked lawyers who will fatten their pockets at the
> expense of the citizens of Chicago.
And at the expense of NRA/GOA members - nothing new there...
>>But Richard Pearson of the Illinois State Rifle Association said
>>the ruling was "ludicrous."
>
> Mr. Pearson is right, as usual.
You phony gun agenda is ludicrous.
David Voth
was kind enough to write:
>David Voth <davi...@catholic.org> wrote in
>news:emkisu0h3n8hnucs0...@4ax.com:
<snip>
>> Richard M. Daley is the head of one of the largest ongoing
>> criminal enterprises in the USA.
>
>Laugh laugh laugh laugh. I thought you didn't care about the law,
>Dizzivoth.
You must be mistaking me for someone else. Have another bong hit.
>>>"This is an important victory for gun victims and cities and local
>>>governments that are trying to stem the tide of violence," said
>>>Jonathan Lowy of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
>>
>> The decision merely allows the case to go to trial. It's victory
>> for all the crooked lawyers who will fatten their pockets at the
>> expense of the citizens of Chicago.
>
>And at the expense of NRA/GOA members - nothing new there...
Does it make you feel good to waste other peoples' money on a
frivolous lawsuit, Lee?
Chris Morton
>Richard M. Daley is the head of one of the largest ongoing criminal
>enterprises in the USA.
Having formerly lived there, I can say with authority that it's THE most corrupt
city in North America north of the Rio Grande. It's Tijuana with lake effect
snow.
--
Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women should have to fistfight with 210lb.
rapists.
Chris Morton
>
>On 06 Nov 2002 18:07:06 GMT, The Lone Weasel <lonew...@yahoo.com>
>was kind enough to write:
>
>>David Voth <davi...@catholic.org> wrote in
>>news:emkisu0h3n8hnucs0...@4ax.com:
>
><snip>
>
>>> Richard M. Daley is the head of one of the largest ongoing
>>> criminal enterprises in the USA.
>>
>>Laugh laugh laugh laugh. I thought you didn't care about the law,
>>Dizzivoth.
>
>You must be mistaking me for someone else. Have another bong hit.
>
>>>>"This is an important victory for gun victims and cities and local
>>>>governments that are trying to stem the tide of violence," said
>>>>Jonathan Lowy of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
>>>
>>> The decision merely allows the case to go to trial. It's victory
>>> for all the crooked lawyers who will fatten their pockets at the
>>> expense of the citizens of Chicago.
>>
>>And at the expense of NRA/GOA members - nothing new there...
>
>Does it make you feel good to waste other peoples' money on a
>frivolous lawsuit, Lee?
Given who's going to be appointing and approving Supreme Court Justices for the
forseeable future, you should be calling it a DOOMED lawsuit.... : )
Chris Morton
>Looks like the gun industry'll pass their legal expense on to gun
>owners.
More like the dimwitted taxpayers of Chicago will be paying the gunmakers' court
costs.
The odds of any Bush appointed Supreme Court Justice siding with DICK Daley are
smaller than your IQ, and that's saying a lot, sheetboy.
The Lone Weasel
> On 06 Nov 2002 18:07:06 GMT, The Lone Weasel
<lonew...@yahoo.com>
> was kind enough to write:
>
>>David Voth <davi...@catholic.org> wrote in
>>news:emkisu0h3n8hnucs0...@4ax.com:
>
> <snip>
>
>>> Richard M. Daley is the head of one of the largest ongoing
>>> criminal enterprises in the USA.
>>
>>Laugh laugh laugh laugh. I thought you didn't care about the law,
>>Dizzivoth.
>
> You must be mistaking me for someone else. Have another bong hit.
>
>>>>"This is an important victory for gun victims and cities and
local
>>>>governments that are trying to stem the tide of violence," said
>>>>Jonathan Lowy of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
>>>
>>> The decision merely allows the case to go to trial. It's
victory
>>> for all the crooked lawyers who will fatten their pockets at the
>>> expense of the citizens of Chicago.
>>
>>And at the expense of NRA/GOA members - nothing new there...
>
> Does it make you feel good to waste other peoples' money on a
> frivolous lawsuit, Lee?
I think Mayor Daley has a good case, so he's not wasting anybody's
money except yours, and your evil twin Miniloon's (Linthead's), and
everybody else who pays the bills at the gun lobby.
When the mayor wins that lawsuit, the frivolity will be all ours.
Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh.
_______________
A well informed liberal being necessary to the security of a free
state, the right of the Lone Weasel to kick rightwing ass shall not
be infringed.
POINT PROVEN!
David Voth
>I think Mayor Daley has a good case,...
Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh.
>...so he's not wasting anybody's
>money except yours, and your evil twin Miniloon's (Linthead's), and
>everybody else who pays the bills at the gun lobby.
Is the gun lobby next to the gun lounge? I thought I could leave my
tab in the gun dining room.
Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh.
>When the mayor wins that lawsuit, the frivolity will be all ours.
>
>Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh.
>
>_______________
>
>
>A well informed liberal being necessary to the security of a free
>state, the right of the Lone Weasel to kick rightwing ass shall not
>be infringed.
>
>POINT PROVEN!
AH49
>
> David Voth <davi...@catholic.org> wrote:
> > Does it make you feel good to waste other peoples' money on a
> > frivolous lawsuit, Lee?
>
> I think Mayor Daley has a good case, so he's not wasting anybody's
> money except yours, and your evil twin Miniloon's (Linthead's), and
> everybody else who pays the bills at the gun lobby.
What bills are they paying?
> When the mayor wins that lawsuit, the frivolity will be all ours.
The "mayor" can't win a case like this.
Don't you know why?
Chris Morton
>I think Mayor Daley has a good case, so he's not wasting anybody's
No you don't. Only Glen Yeadon is THAT stupid.
You are however a liar.
>When the mayor wins that lawsuit, the frivolity will be all ours.
When Daley wins that suit, Rosie O'Donnell will die of anorexia, and you'll
cease to be a racist pinhead.
AntisDoLie
> http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-gun-
> lawsuit1105nov05,0,3325295.story
>
> Court: Chicago Can Contine Gun Suit
>
> By Associated Press
>
> November 5, 2002, 7:39 AM EST
>
> CHICAGO -- More than two years after a lower court dismissed
> Chicago's lawsuit against the gun industry, an appellate court ruled
> that the city can move forward with its landmark $433 million case.
This would be one of those lawsuits you pretend to not know about in
order to continue to avoid answering questions on these types of
lawsuits and tort reform giving protection to manufacturers against
them.
Jim
William A. Levinson
David Voth wrote:
Daley's father was well known for being corrupt. And the apple doesn't
fall far from the tree.
--Bill
http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/
William A. Levinson
Chris Morton wrote:
> In article <Xns92BE8BCE06935l...@66.40.56.35>, The says...
>
> >I think Mayor Daley has a good case, so he's not wasting anybody's
>
> No you don't. Only Glen Yeadon is THAT stupid.
>
> You are however a liar.
>
> >When the mayor wins that lawsuit, the frivolity will be all ours.
>
> When Daley wins that suit, Rosie O'Donnell will die of anorexia,
ROTFL!
> and you'll cease to be a racist pinhead.
I have to develop a leaflet to hand out to PROSPECTIVE jurors for these frivolous
lawsuits. (You don't want to hand them out after someone's already been assigned
to a case.) Something with all the dirt on the Million Mom March, such as credible
allegations of tax improprieties, and proven instances of lying to the public,
prospective donors, and the media. No one will believe anything they, or that
crook Daley, have to say.
Why the hell won't these cockroaches stay crushed???
> --
> Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women should have to fistfight with 210lb.
> rapists.
http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/leaflets/condoms.html Mayor Daley's rape
mitigation kit
--Bill
http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/
William A. Levinson
Chris Morton wrote:
> In article <Xns92BE7B47BE41Al...@209.94.30.20>, The says...
>
> >Looks like the gun industry'll pass their legal expense on to gun
> >owners.
>
> More like the dimwitted taxpayers of Chicago will be paying the gunmakers' court
> costs.
>
> The odds of any Bush appointed Supreme Court Justice siding with DICK Daley are
> smaller than your IQ, and that's saying a lot, sheetboy.
CHARLTON HESTON FOR CHIEF JUSTICE!
--Bill
http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/
William A. Levinson
Chris Morton wrote:
> In article <emkisu0h3n8hnucs0...@4ax.com>, David says...
>
> >Richard M. Daley is the head of one of the largest ongoing criminal
> >enterprises in the USA.
>
> Having formerly lived there, I can say with authority that it's THE most corrupt
> city in North America north of the Rio Grande. It's Tijuana with lake effect
> snow.
http://www.stentorian.com/hell/ballot.html Here's a Chicago absentee ballot.
---Bill
William A. Levinson
"John A. Stovall" wrote:
> Is this the same Charlton Heston who doesn't think I should own an
> AK-47 and is frightened of Assault Rifles?
>
> I think not. May I suggest L. Neil Smith.
JEFF COOPER!
This for the Million Mom March: http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/leaflets/mmm.html
Bill
William A. Levinson
consolidate all my MMM stuff (as much as could be consolidated) on one 8
by 11 page for easy distribution at First Monday events.
Michael Ejercito
> In article <emkisu0h3n8hnucs0...@4ax.com>, David says...
>
> >Richard M. Daley is the head of one of the largest ongoing criminal
> >enterprises in the USA.
>
> Having formerly lived there, I can say with authority that it's THE most corrupt
> city in North America north of the Rio Grande. It's Tijuana with lake effect
> snow.
Michael
Michael Ejercito
> lawsuit1105nov05,0,3325295.story
>
> Court: Chicago Can Contine Gun Suit
>
> By Associated Press
>
> November 5, 2002, 7:39 AM EST
>
> CHICAGO -- More than two years after a lower court dismissed
> Chicago's lawsuit against the gun industry, an appellate court ruled
> that the city can move forward with its landmark $433 million case.
>
> In 1998, Mayor Richard M. Daley sued 22 gun manufacturers, including
> Beretta, Colt, Smith & Wesson and Browning, four gun distributors
> and 12 suburban gun shops. He accused them of creating a public
> nuisance with their products.
>
post that they are a public nuisance.
Michael
The Lone Weasel
Actually yes. It's simply a verifiable fact.
__________________
Pratt has been a featured writer in the hard right "Chalcedon
Report" which once ran on its cover the title "The God Blessedness
of Gun Control". Larry wrote in one of these articles what is a
common theme in Chalcedon circles...the idea that the only basis of
civil law is found in the Old Testament. In one article, Pratt
chided Religious Right marchers for supporting someone like Bob Dole
who was a compromise candidate. To Pratt, compromise is sin and it
is better to sit out an election than support someone like Dole. In
so doing, Pratt is claiming people like Jerry Falwell and Pat
Robertson are moving too far to the left."9"
9. Forty Years of Freedom", NEW AMERICAN, pg. 8.
--
Yours truly,
The Lone Weasel
Christopher Morton
Nah, JOHN MILLIUS!
--
"sure an a nigger is going to use denigrate." - Glen Yeadon
"Who gives an FF what anyone says about the jooz." - Judy Diarya
"Jews mean nothing to me." - Judy Diarya
"Everyone but you knows the jews were behind 9-11." - Judy Diarya
"Stop using that term homophobia, you idiot. Normal people don't fear
the queers. We just don't like them. Call me a homobigot." - Judy Diarya
Christopher Morton
Ejercito) wrote:
In all the time I spent in Georgia and Alabama during IOBC and
Airborne School, not a single person called me a "nigger". I
certainly can't make the same claim of Chicago.
John A. Stovall
<wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote:
>
>
>"John A. Stovall" wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:41:31 GMT, "William A. Levinson"
>> <wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >Chris Morton wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <Xns92BE7B47BE41Al...@209.94.30.20>, The says...
>> >>
>> >> >Looks like the gun industry'll pass their legal expense on to gun
>> >> >owners.
>> >>
>> >> More like the dimwitted taxpayers of Chicago will be paying the gunmakers' court
>> >> costs.
>> >>
>> >> The odds of any Bush appointed Supreme Court Justice siding with DICK Daley are
>> >> smaller than your IQ, and that's saying a lot, sheetboy.
>> >
>> >CHARLTON HESTON FOR CHIEF JUSTICE!
>>
>> Is this the same Charlton Heston who doesn't think I should own an
>> AK-47 and is frightened of Assault Rifles?
>>
>> I think not. May I suggest L. Neil Smith.
>
>JEFF COOPER!
Cooper may not live another year as bad as his health was when I last
saw him three years ago.
L. Neil will be around a long time. But I could also get behind a
John Ross movement.
*******************************************************
Every man, woman, and responsible child has a natural,
fundamental, and inalienable human, individual, civil, and
Constitutional right (within the limits of the Non-Aggression
Principle) to obtain, own, and carry, openly or concealed, any
weapon -- handgun, shotgun, rifle, machinegun, anything
-- anytime, anywhere, without asking anyone's permission.
,
The Atlanta Declaration
-- L. Neil Smith
http://www.lneilsmith.com/
John A. Stovall
<chr...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:41:31 GMT, "William A. Levinson"
><wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Chris Morton wrote:
>>
>>> In article <Xns92BE7B47BE41Al...@209.94.30.20>, The says...
>>>
>>> >Looks like the gun industry'll pass their legal expense on to gun
>>> >owners.
>>>
>>> More like the dimwitted taxpayers of Chicago will be paying the gunmakers' court
>>> costs.
>>>
>>> The odds of any Bush appointed Supreme Court Justice siding with DICK Daley are
>>> smaller than your IQ, and that's saying a lot, sheetboy.
>>
>>CHARLTON HESTON FOR CHIEF JUSTICE!
>
>Nah, JOHN MILLIUS!
Haven't ever seen him at Knob Creek and if you don't shoot the Creek
you are unfit to serve.
I want some one who owns and shoots serious firearms. The only thing
I've ever seen Millus shooting is shoot gun. No Full Auto or to hell
with them.
*******************************************************
"Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law,
respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you,
send him to the cemetery."
Malcolm X
"Malcolm X Speaks", 1965
Cole Firearms Inc.
>
> On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 23:47:10 GMT, "William A. Levinson"
> <wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"John A. Stovall" wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:41:31 GMT, "William A. Levinson"
> >> <wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Chris Morton wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In article <Xns92BE7B47BE41Al...@209.94.30.20>, The says...
> >> >>
> >> >> >Looks like the gun industry'll pass their legal expense on to gun
> >> >> >owners.
> >> >>
> >> >> More like the dimwitted taxpayers of Chicago will be paying the gunmakers' court
> >> >> costs.
> >> >>
> >> >> The odds of any Bush appointed Supreme Court Justice siding with DICK Daley are
> >> >> smaller than your IQ, and that's saying a lot, sheetboy.
> >> >
> >> >CHARLTON HESTON FOR CHIEF JUSTICE!
> >>
> >> Is this the same Charlton Heston who doesn't think I should own an
> >> AK-47 and is frightened of Assault Rifles?
> >>
> >> I think not. May I suggest L. Neil Smith.
> >
> >JEFF COOPER!
>
> Cooper may not live another year as bad as his health was when I last
> saw him three years ago.
>
> L. Neil will be around a long time. But I could also get behind a
> John Ross movement.
Only Pro Gun people would even know what a John Ross movement is.
--
""Sic Semper Tyrannis" - Thus Always with Tyrants - John Wilkes Booth"
"Per ardua nec flectitur nec mutat. Confido,
est voluntas dei, invictus maneo. Addere leci justitiam
deo certavi et vici." - Rev. Shawn Cole, Cole Firearms Inc.
Robert Frenchu
>"John A. Stovall" wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 23:47:10 GMT, "William A. Levinson"
>> <wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >"John A. Stovall" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:41:31 GMT, "William A. Levinson"
>> >> <wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Chris Morton wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> In article <Xns92BE7B47BE41Al...@209.94.30.20>, The says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Looks like the gun industry'll pass their legal expense on to gun
>> >> >> >owners.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> More like the dimwitted taxpayers of Chicago will be paying the gunmakers' court
>> >> >> costs.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The odds of any Bush appointed Supreme Court Justice siding with DICK Daley are
>> >> >> smaller than your IQ, and that's saying a lot, sheetboy.
>> >> >
>> >> >CHARLTON HESTON FOR CHIEF JUSTICE!
>> >>
>> >> Is this the same Charlton Heston who doesn't think I should own an
>> >> AK-47 and is frightened of Assault Rifles?
>> >>
>> >> I think not. May I suggest L. Neil Smith.
>> >
>> >JEFF COOPER!
>>
>> Cooper may not live another year as bad as his health was when I last
>> saw him three years ago.
>>
>> L. Neil will be around a long time. But I could also get behind a
>> John Ross movement.
>
>Only Pro Gun people would even know what a John Ross movement is.
Are you saying you want it explained to you, then?
BTW, I'm still waiting for proof. Cough it up, boy.
__________
"Stop scanning my ports, stop sending me email bombs,
stop everything you are doing."
-"Cole Firearms Inc.", lashing out in a fit
of apoplectic paranoia, 10/28/2002
William A. Levinson
"John A. Stovall" wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 23:47:10 GMT, "William A. Levinson"
> <wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"John A. Stovall" wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:41:31 GMT, "William A. Levinson"
> >> <wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Chris Morton wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In article <Xns92BE7B47BE41Al...@209.94.30.20>, The says...
> >> >>
> >> >> >Looks like the gun industry'll pass their legal expense on to gun
> >> >> >owners.
> >> >>
> >> >> More like the dimwitted taxpayers of Chicago will be paying the gunmakers' court
> >> >> costs.
> >> >>
> >> >> The odds of any Bush appointed Supreme Court Justice siding with DICK Daley are
> >> >> smaller than your IQ, and that's saying a lot, sheetboy.
> >> >
> >> >CHARLTON HESTON FOR CHIEF JUSTICE!
> >>
> >> Is this the same Charlton Heston who doesn't think I should own an
> >> AK-47 and is frightened of Assault Rifles?
> >>
> >> I think not. May I suggest L. Neil Smith.
> >
> >JEFF COOPER!
>
> Cooper may not live another year as bad as his health was when I last
> saw him three years ago.
I am very sorry to hear that. Cooper is an asset to our country and our heritage.
This for the Million Mom March:
http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/leaflets/mmm.html
--Bill
William A. Levinson
Christopher Morton wrote:
> On 6 Nov 2002 16:52:09 -0800, meje...@marvelonline.net (Michael
> Ejercito) wrote:
>
> >Chris Morton <cmo...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:<aqbo6...@drn.newsguy.com>...
> >> In article <emkisu0h3n8hnucs0...@4ax.com>, David says...
> >>
> >> >Richard M. Daley is the head of one of the largest ongoing criminal
> >> >enterprises in the USA.
> >>
> >> Having formerly lived there, I can say with authority that it's THE most corrupt
> >> city in North America north of the Rio Grande. It's Tijuana with lake effect
> >> snow.
> > Next, you will be telling me that it is more racist than the Deep South.
>
> In all the time I spent in Georgia and Alabama during IOBC and
> Airborne School, not a single person called me a "nigger". I
> certainly can't make the same claim of Chicago.
> -
And it wouldn't surprise me if it was mostly Black Democrats who were calling you that. That
is what they call educated and successful Black people. They use all sorts of insulting terms
for Colin Powell, Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, Roy Innis, and so on. Harry Belafonte called
Powell a "house slave." If his position makes him a "house slave," sign ME up to be sold!
Speaking of which, Sowell for President in 2008? Suits me!
The Lone Weasel
news:3DC999F8...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com:
Turds drop where a Bush speaks.
_______________
Totum dependeat.
Christopher Morton
wrote:
Then pick yourself back up, Klanboy.
---
"Okay Chrissy, you cock-sucking saucer-lipped booger-eating
monkey-fucking nigger, I hereby announce that I can say any word and
your cynical manipulation of my expression won't ever make me a racist
or a bigot. I don't give a fuck." - Lee Harrison (lha...@amaonlon.com)
Christopher Morton
<wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote:
>
>
>Christopher Morton wrote:
>
>> On 6 Nov 2002 16:52:09 -0800, meje...@marvelonline.net (Michael
>> Ejercito) wrote:
>>
>> >Chris Morton <cmo...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:<aqbo6...@drn.newsguy.com>...
>> >> In article <emkisu0h3n8hnucs0...@4ax.com>, David says...
>> >>
>> >> >Richard M. Daley is the head of one of the largest ongoing criminal
>> >> >enterprises in the USA.
>> >>
>> >> Having formerly lived there, I can say with authority that it's THE most corrupt
>> >> city in North America north of the Rio Grande. It's Tijuana with lake effect
>> >> snow.
>> > Next, you will be telling me that it is more racist than the Deep South.
>>
>> In all the time I spent in Georgia and Alabama during IOBC and
>> Airborne School, not a single person called me a "nigger". I
>> certainly can't make the same claim of Chicago.
>> -
>
>And it wouldn't surprise me if it was mostly Black Democrats who were calling you that. That
Actually, ethnic Whites, Dailey's voter base.
Black people in Chicago have different problems, anti-Semitism being
one of the big ones. It always seemed strange to me to condemn White
racism, while repeating verbatim the insane nonsense of neo-Nazis.
>Speaking of which, Sowell for President in 2008? Suits me!
How about the guy who wrote "Black Man with a Gun"? Before I read his
book, I thought he'd be ludicrously over the top right-wing. Instead
he made a lot of sense, and said some things I've been saying in
FidoNet and usenet for ten years.
William A. Levinson
Christopher Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Nov 2002 05:02:07 GMT, "William A. Levinson"
> <wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Christopher Morton wrote:
> >
> >> On 6 Nov 2002 16:52:09 -0800, meje...@marvelonline.net (Michael
> >> Ejercito) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Chris Morton <cmo...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:<aqbo6...@drn.newsguy.com>...
> >> >> In article <emkisu0h3n8hnucs0...@4ax.com>, David says...
> >> >>
> >> >> >Richard M. Daley is the head of one of the largest ongoing criminal
> >> >> >enterprises in the USA.
> >> >>
> >> >> Having formerly lived there, I can say with authority that it's THE most corrupt
> >> >> city in North America north of the Rio Grande. It's Tijuana with lake effect
> >> >> snow.
> >> > Next, you will be telling me that it is more racist than the Deep South.
> >>
> >> In all the time I spent in Georgia and Alabama during IOBC and
> >> Airborne School, not a single person called me a "nigger". I
> >> certainly can't make the same claim of Chicago.
> >> -
> >
> >And it wouldn't surprise me if it was mostly Black Democrats who were calling you that. That
>
> Actually, ethnic Whites, Dailey's voter base.
Well, that wouldn't surprise me either. I could see Daley voters doing this very easily.
Of course some of them don't say anything, because they're dead. I think the mummies in the Field
Museum and Oriental Institute vote quite regularly.
> Black people in Chicago have different problems, anti-Semitism being
> one of the big ones. It always seemed strange to me to condemn White
> racism, while repeating verbatim the insane nonsense of neo-Nazis.
>
> >Speaking of which, Sowell for President in 2008? Suits me!
>
> How about the guy who wrote "Black Man with a Gun"? Before I read his
> book, I thought he'd be ludicrously over the top right-wing. Instead
> he made a lot of sense, and said some things I've been saying in
> FidoNet and usenet for ten years.
"No one ever lynched a .45," just like "No one ever raped a .38" and "No one ever put a 9 mm in a
cattle car."
William A. Levinson
The Lone Weasel wrote:
> [deleted]
>
> Turds drop where a Bush speaks.
>
> _______________
>
> Totum dependeat.
>
> --
>
> Yours truly,
>
> The Lone Weasel
You're getting pretty lame, Weasel. Is my new Million Mom March leaflet
too much for you? I think you're upset because it will destroy any event
the MMM sets up if our side hands it out to their members and the media.
The Lone Weasel
> The Lone Weasel wrote:
>> Shitorian dribbled:
>>> [undeleted]
>>> Daley's father was well known for being corrupt. And the apple
>>> doesn't fall far from the tree.
>>> [undeleted]
>> Turds drop where a Bush speaks.
>
> You're getting pretty lame, Weasel.
And yet you felt the need to delete your own smear, because my smear
was lame?
Yours must have been paraplegic, Wild Shill...
POINT PROVEN!
Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh.
_______________
"We will probably need a major concentration of forces in the Middle
East over a long period of time. That will come at a price, but
think of the price of not having it. When we have economic problems,
it's been caused by disruptions in our oil supply. If we have a
force in Iraq, there will be no disruption in oil supplies."
- Donald Kagan, co-chairman of the 2000 New Century project
Michael Ejercito
> On 6 Nov 2002 16:52:09 -0800, meje...@marvelonline.net (Michael
> Ejercito) wrote:
>
> >Chris Morton <cmo...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:<aqbo6...@drn.newsguy.com>...
> >> In article <emkisu0h3n8hnucs0...@4ax.com>, David says...
> >>
> >> >Richard M. Daley is the head of one of the largest ongoing criminal
> >> >enterprises in the USA.
> >>
> >> Having formerly lived there, I can say with authority that it's THE most corrupt
> >> city in North America north of the Rio Grande. It's Tijuana with lake effect
> >> snow.
> > Next, you will be telling me that it is more racist than the Deep South.
>
> In all the time I spent in Georgia and Alabama during IOBC and
> Airborne School, not a single person called me a "nigger". I
> certainly can't make the same claim of Chicago.
Michael
Michael Ejercito
> On Thu, 07 Nov 2002 05:02:07 GMT, "William A. Levinson"
> <wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Christopher Morton wrote:
> >
> >> On 6 Nov 2002 16:52:09 -0800, meje...@marvelonline.net (Michael
> >> Ejercito) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Chris Morton <cmo...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:<aqbo6...@drn.newsguy.com>...
> >> >> In article <emkisu0h3n8hnucs0...@4ax.com>, David says...
> >> >>
> >> >> >Richard M. Daley is the head of one of the largest ongoing criminal
> >> >> >enterprises in the USA.
> >> >>
> >> >> Having formerly lived there, I can say with authority that it's THE most corrupt
> >> >> city in North America north of the Rio Grande. It's Tijuana with lake effect
> >> >> snow.
> >> > Next, you will be telling me that it is more racist than the Deep South.
> >>
> >> In all the time I spent in Georgia and Alabama during IOBC and
> >> Airborne School, not a single person called me a "nigger". I
> >> certainly can't make the same claim of Chicago.
> >> -
> >
> >And it wouldn't surprise me if it was mostly Black Democrats who were calling you that. That
>
> Actually, ethnic Whites, Dailey's voter base.
>
> Black people in Chicago have different problems, anti-Semitism being
> one of the big ones. It always seemed strange to me to condemn White
> racism, while repeating verbatim the insane nonsense of neo-Nazis.
Well, prejudice boils down to protecting what is yours. For
thousands of years, people banded together for common protection, on
whatever basis. They then view outsiders with suspision.
Problems arise whern prejudice is used as an excuse for unethical
behavior or refusing to accept personal responsibility, such as what
the National Alliance does.
Michael
William A. Levinson
The Lone Weasel wrote:
> "William A. Levinson" <wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote in
> news:3DCA9A0B...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com:
>
> > The Lone Weasel wrote:
>
> >> Shitorian dribbled:
>
> >>> [undeleted]
>
> >>> Daley's father was well known for being corrupt. And the apple
> >>> doesn't fall far from the tree.
>
> >>> [undeleted]
>
> >> Turds drop where a Bush speaks.
> >
> > You're getting pretty lame, Weasel.
>
> And yet you felt the need to delete your own smear, because my smear
> was lame?
>
> Yours must have been paraplegic, Wild Shill...
>
> POINT PROVEN!
>
> Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh.
And you are going to do what to protect your precious Million Mom March
from my latest creation? It's really just mopping up, though, because I
broke the organization's back two years ago. It really exists only in
name.
Chris Morton
meje...@marvelonline.net says...
Captain... unlike David "Rack Jite" Dahlman of Seabrook, Texas who achieved the
rank of "TDP"! : )
John P.
> Next, you will be telling me that it is more racist than the Deep South.
Having lived in both places, I'd say yes to that. In all my travels
around the U.S. and the world, I find Chicago has pretty much always
been one of the most segregated cities.
--
***************************
* Guns cause Crime *
* Like *
*Cameras cause Pornography*
***************************
Thor
>Michael Ejercito wrote:
>
>> Next, you will be telling me that it is more racist than the Deep South.
>
>Having lived in both places, I'd say yes to that. In all my travels
>around the U.S. and the world, I find Chicago has pretty much always
>been one of the most segregated cities.
Yes mostly due to the blacks all wanting to live together.
John P.
> Yes mostly due to the blacks all wanting to live together.
Even long before then. When my father was growing up in the 1920's and
30's, it was all Polish, Irish, Italian, etc. neighborhoods. The only
thing that has changed is the ethnicity of the people living in those
neighborhoods.
The Lone Weasel
news:3DCC00A9...@attbi.com:
> Thor wrote:
>
>> Yes mostly due to the blacks all wanting to live together.
First, I'd assume the primary demographic would be economic rather
than racial.
Second, it's white folks who invented district redlining to force
black people out of desrible urban neighborhoods, not black folks
inventing redlining to keep white folks out.
Third, your claim about "all them
[racial/ethnic/national/religious/gay] people wanting to live
segregated from prosperous white society, is racist horseshit.
_______________
I advance it therefore as a suspicion only, that the blacks, whether
originally a distinct race, or made distinct by time and
circumstances, are inferior to the whites in the endowments both of
body and mind. It is not against experience to suppose, that
different Species of the same genus, or varieties of the same
species, may possess different qualifications. Will not a lover of
natural history then, one who views the gradations in all the races
of animals with the eye of philosophy, excuse an effort to keep
those in the department of man as distinct as nature has formed
them? This unfortunate difference of colour, and perhaps of faculty,
is a powerful obstacle to the emancipation of these people. Many of
their advocates, while they wish to vindicate the liberty of human
nature are anxious also to preserve its dignity and beauty. Some of
these, embarrassed by the question `What further is to be done with
them?' join themselves in opposition with those who are actuated by
sordid avarice only. Among the Romans emancipation required but one
effort. The slave, when made free, might mix with, without staining
the blood of his master. But with us a second is necessary, unknown
to history. When freed, he is to be removed beyond the reach of
mixture.
Thomas Jefferson. Notes On The State Of Virginia, Query XIV. 1781
Christopher Morton
Ejercito) wrote:
>Christopher Morton <chr...@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:<0qlksugl0451mnjak...@4ax.com>...
>> On Thu, 07 Nov 2002 05:02:07 GMT, "William A. Levinson"
>> <wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >Christopher Morton wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 6 Nov 2002 16:52:09 -0800, meje...@marvelonline.net (Michael
>> >> Ejercito) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Chris Morton <cmo...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:<aqbo6...@drn.newsguy.com>...
>> >> >> In article <emkisu0h3n8hnucs0...@4ax.com>, David says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Richard M. Daley is the head of one of the largest ongoing criminal
>> >> >> >enterprises in the USA.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Having formerly lived there, I can say with authority that it's THE most corrupt
>> >> >> city in North America north of the Rio Grande. It's Tijuana with lake effect
>> >> >> snow.
>> >> > Next, you will be telling me that it is more racist than the Deep South.
>> >>
>> >> In all the time I spent in Georgia and Alabama during IOBC and
>> >> Airborne School, not a single person called me a "nigger". I
>> >> certainly can't make the same claim of Chicago.
>> >> -
>> >
>> >And it wouldn't surprise me if it was mostly Black Democrats who were calling you that. That
>>
>> Actually, ethnic Whites, Dailey's voter base.
> Whom do most black voters in Chicago vote for in city election?
Don't know. Probably Daley. The voter choices for anyone are
miserable in Chicago. They're even worse for Black people. A
corrupt, racist White Democrat. A corrupt, anti-Semitic Black
Democrat. A White Republican (maybe racist, maybe not) with less
chance of getting elected mayor than Jackie Mason does of getting
elected mayor of Riyadh.
Who would you choose?
Don't forget too that in the '80s, Harold Washington's nascent Black
political machine melted down over failures to maintain coaltions with
Hispanics and liberal Whites, especially Jews. Of course the latter
is hardly unexpected given that the acting mayor employed a consultant
who was selling audiotapes declaring that Jews were intentionally
infecting Black children with AIDS. When questioned about it, a Black
city council member replied that she thought it was plausible.
Prior to Daley, the Black political scene was as toxic as anything
you'd see at a Duke rally. Knowing Chicago, I doubt it's gotten any
better. Given the INCREDIBLE increase in the Hispanic population, I'm
sure Daley can get all of the votes he need through patronage in
Pilsen, espcially given the sort of doublecrosses the previous
administration dealt the Mexicans.
>> Black people in Chicago have different problems, anti-Semitism being
>> one of the big ones. It always seemed strange to me to condemn White
>> racism, while repeating verbatim the insane nonsense of neo-Nazis.
> Well, prejudice boils down to protecting what is yours. For
They don't have anything to protect. Black people in Chicago adopting
the Aryan Nations mindset to "protect" something is like having a
razor fight with somebody over a stinking dung heap. I don't see the
point.
>thousands of years, people banded together for common protection, on
>whatever basis. They then view outsiders with suspision.
> Problems arise whern prejudice is used as an excuse for unethical
>behavior or refusing to accept personal responsibility, such as what
>the National Alliance does.
There are three reasons why that sort of stupidity is endemic in
Chicago.
1. It's been traditional for damned near 200 years. Early in the
game, ethnic Whites (especially the Irish) and Blacks were set against
each other to compete for the refuse of the gutter. When actual
political power became a possibility for Black people, it got a LOT
uglier. Recall that Chicago was the only city where Dr. Martin Luther
King, Jr. really failed in what he tried to do. Chicago politics is
about domination, and profoundly racial. Chicago political culture
owes FAR more to Saddam Hussein and Iraq than to anything recognizably
American. The ethic in Chicago is to get on top by putting others
down and keeping them down by dividing and conquering. When a White
is a elected mayor, there's no snow removal in the Black
neighborhoods. When a Black is elected, it's the reverse.
Racial and ethnic hatreds have a life all of their own in Chicago.
The only time I've personally witnessed racial/ethnic hatred as
visceral as that between Irish and Blacks in Chicago, is the hatred of
the Japanese by the Koreans. I suppose it's only rivaled by the
hatred of Blacks by Boston "Southies" during busing. When I was in
high school the racial hattred hung in the air like the smell of human
feces during planting season in Korea.
2. Miserable education. Victims of the Chicago public schools are not
taught to think rationally... or much of anything else. Ignorance is
the lifeblood of bigotry. If you can't think rationally, it's a lot
easier to blame Blacks or Jews or Martians or the napkin makers for
whatever ails you.
3. Mindless following of the party line, be it of a political party or
of a union. You're supposed to obey blindly, and maybe you'll get a
treat and a pat on the head. And don't have any doubt that your job
depends upon it if you're a city worker. The only time I recall this
really breaking down was when the Democratic machine chose candidates
for the primary who were bitterly despised in the Black community.
This was accompanied by a total lack of voter outreach in the Black
community. Blacks therefor rejected the machine candidates out of
hand. But at the same time, not receiving the usual spoonfed
candidate information, they didn't know who else to vote for. So they
voted in the primary for people with neutral, non-ethnic sounding
names. LaRouche candidates with Anglo-Saxon names won the top spots
on the Democratic ticket in the general election. The machine was
unable to legally throw the LaRouchites off the ticket, so they
instead had to leave their own party and run as "independents". It
was of course a Republican sweep.
This is the festing bowl of pus that is Chicago.
Christopher Morton
wrote:
>Michael Ejercito wrote:
>
>> Next, you will be telling me that it is more racist than the Deep South.
>
>Having lived in both places, I'd say yes to that. In all my travels
>around the U.S. and the world, I find Chicago has pretty much always
>been one of the most segregated cities.
And not even just Black against White.
Poles against Lithuanians.
Blacks against Jews.
Jews against Arabs.
Blacks against Hispanics.
Mexicans against Puerto Ricans.
In Chicago, when you're born they assign you a group to hate.
Christopher Morton
ALL?
Gee, I wonder what the lifespan of a Black family moving to Marquette
Park in 1970 would have been....
Christopher Morton
wrote:
>"John P." <john...@attbi.com> wrote in
>news:3DCC00A9...@attbi.com:
>
>> Thor wrote:
>>
>>> Yes mostly due to the blacks all wanting to live together.
>
>First, I'd assume the primary demographic would be economic rather
>than racial.
And as usual, you would be completely and utterly wrong.
Divison in Chicago is by race, ethnicity and religion. And it has
always been maintained via force and violence.
But then you really wouldn't care what happened to a Black kid who
rode his bike into the "wrong" neighborhood, would you? You think
there are too many of us as it is.
Yardpilot
"William A. Levinson" <wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote in message
news:3DC89908...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com...
>
>
> The Lone Weasel wrote:
>
> > http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-gun-
> > lawsuit1105nov05,0,3325295.story
> >
> > Court: Chicago Can Contine Gun Suit
> >
> > By Associated Press
> >
> > November 5, 2002, 7:39 AM EST
> >
> > CHICAGO -- More than two years after a lower court dismissed
> > Chicago's lawsuit against the gun industry, an appellate court ruled
> > that the city can move forward with its landmark $433 million case.
> >
> > Beretta, Colt, Smith & Wesson and Browning, four gun distributors
> > and 12 suburban gun shops. He accused them of creating a public
> > nuisance with their products.
> >
> > police officers posing as straw purchasers -- people with state
> > firearms owner identification cards who buy guns for those who lack
> > such cards, usually because they have criminal records and are
> > ineligible.
> >
> > police, medical and other services related to gun violence over four
> > years.
> >
> > governments that are trying to stem the tide of violence," said
> > Jonathan Lowy of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
>
> Why the hell can't someone go into court and discredit these sons of
> b***hes? http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/mmm/ has plenty of dirt on
> the Million Mom March (now part of the Brady Center), and
> http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/dirty.html has dirt on the entire gun
> control movement.
>
> I broke the Million Mom March's back. Do I have to do EVERYTHING around
> here???
Well, we would appreciate it. <G>
ralph gibbons
> 3. Mindless following of the party line, be it of a political party or
> of a union. You're supposed to obey blindly, and maybe you'll get a
> treat and a pat on the head. And don't have any doubt that your job
> depends upon it if you're a city worker. The only time I recall this
> really breaking down was when the Democratic machine chose candidates
> for the primary who were bitterly despised in the Black community.
> This was accompanied by a total lack of voter outreach in the Black
> community. Blacks therefor rejected the machine candidates out of
> hand. But at the same time, not receiving the usual spoonfed
> candidate information, they didn't know who else to vote for. So they
> voted in the primary for people with neutral, non-ethnic sounding
> names. LaRouche candidates with Anglo-Saxon names won the top spots
> on the Democratic ticket in the general election. The machine was
> unable to legally throw the LaRouchites off the ticket, so they
> instead had to leave their own party and run as "independents". It
> was of course a Republican sweep.
Bullshit. Black voters in Chicago knew exactly who the LaRouche
candidates were, which is precisely why they voted for them. The
"Anglo-Saxon" names line was a pathetic attempt by the press to
confuse the public about what had taken place. LaRouche is one
Democrat that never abandoned the traditional labor, farm and minority
constituents of the party, in order to suck up to parasitical suburban
yuppies, like the D.L.C.
Christopher Morton
gibbons) wrote:
I don't imagine one in a hundred Black people in the United States
knows who Lyndon LaRouche is, and wouldn't vote for him or his bots if
they did.
LaRouche profited from the stupidity of the Chicago Democratic machine
through pure, dumb luck.
--
"sure an a nigger is going to use denigrate." - Glen Yeadon
"Who gives an FF what anyone says about the jooz." - Judy Diarya
"Jews mean nothing to me." - Judy Diarya
"Everyone but you knows the jews were behind 9-11." - Judy Diarya
"Stop using that term homophobia, you idiot. Normal people don't fear
the queers. We just don't like them. Call me a homobigot." - Judy Diarya