Recruiting up over 100% for January
Harry Dope
That the most recent stats for military recruiting are that in 2006, the
services met their goals...and that for January of 2007 (the most recent
month available), all four services met or exceeded their goals, while four
of six reserve/guard services exceeded their goals.
What is amazing is that we're getting this kind of response after years of
relentless defeatism and anti-military propaganda on the part of the
American left and their lapdogs in the MSM. Amazing, and a bit
disturbing...there are, indeed, "two Americas"...and one of them is fighting
the war, while the other is sabotaging the effort.
stonej
When you are desperate for a job, have drug problems and a criminal
record the military will be glad to take you, got to meet those goals
somehow you know? :)
stonej
Also, when you lower your numbers goals the year before it is easier
to
reach a new goal. Surely you know the military is playing these games
don't you?
NeverExpectPowerAlways
Don't forget the boost to recruitment resulting from raising the maximum
age for new recruits from 34 to 42.
That opens the door to millions of older losers desperate for a paycheck.
Server 13
"Harry Dope" <Ignoran...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> That the most recent stats for military recruiting are that in 2006, the
> services met their goals...and that for January of 2007 (the most recent
> month available), all four services met or exceeded their goals, while
> four of six reserve/guard services exceeded their goals.
Because they keep lowering their goals.
>
> What is amazing is that we're getting this kind of response after years of
> relentless defeatism and anti-military propaganda on the part of the
> American left and their lapdogs in the MSM. Amazing, and a bit
> disturbing...there are, indeed, "two Americas"...and one of them is
> fighting
Osama Bin Laden's
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> "Harry Dope" <Ignoran...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>> That the most recent stats for military recruiting are that in 2006, the
>> services met their goals...and that for January of 2007 (the most recent
>> month available), all four services met or exceeded their goals, while
>> four of six reserve/guard services exceeded their goals.
>
> Because they keep lowering their goals.
And standards. They've all but removed education and criminal record
standards. Now, if you can hold a gun and aren't openly gay, you're in.
Like everything else Bush has dealt with, he's driving the military to ruin.
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present recruiting cannibalizes future recruiting. No guy signing up
now will be signing up next month - or next year.
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Jim Alder
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Well, if it isn't John Kerry's joke writer!!
I mean, that WAS a Liberal joke of some kind, right? You aren't really
trying to say that our military is composed of drug addicts, criminals and the
poor, are you?
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enemy that is dangerous, powerful and relentless. I refer, of course, to the
federal government." - Dave Barry
Jim Alder
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> On Mar 7, 3:40 pm, "stonej" <sto...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote:
>> On Mar 7, 3:36 pm, "Harry Dope" <IgnorantLibe...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > That the most recent stats for military recruiting are that in 2006, the
>> > services met their goals...and that for January of 2007 (the most recent
>> > month available), all four services met or exceeded their goals, while
four
>> > of six reserve/guard services exceeded their goals.
>>
>> > What is amazing is that we're getting this kind of response
>> > after years of relentless defeatism and anti-military
>> > propaganda on the part of the American left and their lapdogs
>> > in the MSM. Amazing, and a bit disturbing...there are, indeed,
>> > "two Americas"...and one of them is fighting the war, while
>> > the other is sabotaging the effort.
>>
>> When you are desperate for a job, have drug problems and a
>> criminal record the military will be glad to take you, got
>> to meet those goals somehow, you know? :)
>
> Also, when you lower your numbers goals the year before it is
> easier to reach a new goal. Surely you know the military is
> playing these games don't you?
Well, no, but perhaps if you supplied the numbers for last year and this
year, and maybe even supplied some reason why they would do such a thing?
Oh, and don't call me "surely."
George Grapman
http://cbs3.com/topstories/topstories_story_045065109.html
(AP) WASHINGTON More recruits with criminal records, including felony
convictions, are being allowed to join the Army and Marine Corps as the
armed services cope with a dwindling pool of volunteers during wartime.
The military routinely grants waivers to take in recruits who have
criminal records, medical problems or low aptitude scores that would
otherwise disqualify them from service. Most are moral waivers, which
include some felonies, misdemeanors, and traffic and drug offenses.
Defense Department statistics show that the number of Army and Marine
recruits needing waivers for felonies and serious misdemeanors,
including minor drug offenses, has grown since 2003. Some recruits may
get more than one waiver.
The Army granted more than double the number of waivers for felonies and
misdemeanors in 2006 than it did in 2003.
The number of felony waivers granted by the Army grew from 411 in 2003
to 901 in 2006, according to the Pentagon, or about one in 10 of the
moral waivers approved that year. Other misdemeanors, which could be
petty theft, writing a bad check or some assaults, jumped from about
2,700 to more than 6,000 in 2006. The minor crimes represented more than
three-quarters of the moral waivers granted by the Army in 2006, up from
more than half in 2003.
Army and Defense Department officials defended the waiver program as a
way to admit young people who may have made a mistake early in life but
have overcome past behavior. And they said about two-thirds of the
waivers granted by the Marines are for drug use, because they - unlike
the other services - require a waiver if someone has been convicted once
for marijuana use.
Lawmakers and other observers say they are concerned that the struggle
to fill the military ranks in this time of war has forced the services
to lower their moral standards.
"The data is crystal clear. Our armed forces are under incredible strain
and the only way that they can fill their recruiting quotas is by
lowering their standards," said Rep. Marty Meehan, D-Mass., who has been
working to get additional data from the Pentagon. "By lowering
standards, we are endangering the rest of our armed forces and sending
the wrong message to potential recruits across the country."
Army spokesman Paul Boyce said Tuesday he is concerned because the
Pentagon data differs from Army numbers. But overall, he said, "anything
that is considered a risk or a serious infraction of the law is given
the highest level of review."
"Our goal is to make certain that we recruit quality young men and women
who can keep America defended against its enemies," Boyce said.
The data was obtained through a federal information request and released
by the California-based Michael D. Palm Center, a think tank that
studies military issues.
"The fact that the military has allowed more than 100,000 people with
such troubled pasts to join its ranks over the past three years
illustrates the problem we're having meeting our military needs in this
time of war," said Aaron Belkin, director of the center.
Belkin said a new study commissioned by the center also concludes that
the military does not have any programs that help convicted felons
adjust to military life.
In recent years, as the Iraq and Afghanistan wars have dragged on, the
military has also relaxed some standards in order to meet recruitment
demands. The Army, for example, increased its age limit for recruits
from 35 to 42, and is accepting more people whose scores on a
standardized aptitude test are at the lower end of the acceptable range.
In its report, the Pentagon said, "The waiver process recognizes that
some young people have made mistakes, have overcome their past behavior,
and have clearly demonstrated the potential for being productive,
law-abiding citizens and members of the military."
According to the Pentagon, nearly a quarter of new military recruits
needed some type of waiver in 2006, up from 20 percent in 2003. Roughly
30,000 moral waivers were approved each year between 2003 and 2006.
The military in its report divides moral waivers into six categories:
felonies, serious and minor non-traffic offenses, serious and minor
traffic offenses and drug offenses. Because many states have different
crimes categorized as a felony or misdemeanor, the groupings are more
general.
About one in five Army recruits needed a waiver to enlist in 2006, up
from 12.7 percent in 2003. In addition, the report showed that the Army
granted substantially fewer waivers for drug use and serious traffic
violations last year than in 2003.
More than half of the Marine recruits needed a waiver in 2006, a bit
higher than in 2003, and largely due to their more strict drug
requirements. Felony waivers made up about 2 percent of the Marine
waivers, while other lesser crimes made up about 25 percent, both up
slightly from 2003.
About 18 percent of Navy recruits required a waiver, up only slightly
from 2003. Two-thirds of the waivers granted by the Navy were for
misdemeanor-type crimes and about 5 percent were for felonies.
Just 8 percent of Air Force recruits had waivers, down a bit from 2003.
Nearly all of the waivers were for the misdemeanor-type crimes.
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Al Smith
> disturbing...there are, indeed, "two Americas"...and one of them is fighting
> the war, while the other is sabotaging the effort.
One is sustaining the illegal occupation of a non-belligerent
foreign nation, while the other is attempting to preserve rights
and freedoms of Americans.
Peter Principle
Some Hairy Dope farted:
> That the most recent stats for military recruiting are that in 2006,
> the services met their goals...and that for January of 2007 (the most
> recent month available), all four services met or exceeded their
> goals, while four of six reserve/guard services exceeded their goals.
Um, don't look now, you incredible imbecile, but they only met those goals
because those goals were LOWERED multiple times. The fact is recruiting is
still well below the levels needed to even maintain current troop strength,
much less increase it, as the presidunce promised. Duh, duh, duh, you stupid
asshole...
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Why are so many not smart enough to know they're not smart enough?
http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf
© 1999 by the American Psychological Association
December 1999 Vol. 77, No. 6, 1121-1134
Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own
Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments
Justin Kruger and David Dunning
Department of Psychology
Cornell University
ABSTRACT:
...the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile
on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test
performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the
12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd.
reality
> "stonej" <sto...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote in news:1173300043.964413.281000
> @p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Mar 7, 3:36 pm, "Harry Dope" <IgnorantLibe...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> That the most recent stats for military recruiting are that in 2006, the
> >> services met their goals...and that for January of 2007 (the most recent
> >> month available), all four services met or exceeded their goals, while four
> >> of six reserve/guard services exceeded their goals.
>
> >> What is amazing is that we're getting this kind of response after years of
> >> relentless defeatism and anti-military propaganda on the part of the
> >> American left and their lapdogs in the MSM. Amazing, and a bit
> >> disturbing...there are, indeed, "two Americas"...and one of them is
> >> fighting the war, while the other is sabotaging the effort.
>
> > When you are desperate for a job, have drug problems and a criminal
> > record the military will be glad to take you, got to meet those goals
> > somehow you know? :)
>
> Well, if it isn't John Kerry's joke writer!!
>
> I mean, that WAS a Liberal joke of some kind, right? You aren't really
> trying to say that our military is composed of drug addicts, criminals and the
> poor, are you?
Just look in the Yellow Pages for listings of storefront and shopping
mall locations of military recruitment centers in your town, and then
draw your own conclusions.
Hint: You don't even need to look for them in the wealthy part of
town, that is assuming your town actually *has* an upscale
neighborhood.
reality
> You miss it. Long-term, the recruiting situation is a disaster - as
> present recruiting cannibalizes future recruiting. No guy signing up
> now will be signing up next month - or next year.
That's because he will likely either be dead or have his arms or legs
blown off.
Cognitus
Not so amazing when one considers that month by month they kept
lowering their standards. Now one can even join the military if one
has
committed a crime.
John S
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One of these days they'll even allow someone of the caliber of bush or
Cheney. Oh right, you already said that ("one can even join the military if
on has committed a crime")
James H. Hood
"reality" <realit...@ausi.com> wrote in message
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> Just look in the Yellow Pages for listings of storefront and shopping
> mall locations of military recruitment centers in your town, and then
> draw your own conclusions.
>
> Hint: You don't even need to look for them in the wealthy part of
> town, that is assuming your town actually *has* an upscale
> neighborhood.
Bullshit. You'll find one here in San Antonio on the far north side on US
281, our affluent part of town.
reality
> "reality" <realitych...@ausi.com> wrote in message
I presume you mean the one near Camp Bullis Military Base? Imagine
that. A recruitment center near a military installation. <eye roll>
Jim Alder
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My conclusion would be that they were trying to sav emoney on real estate
and not spend a fortune to be next to Tiffany's.
> Hint: You don't even need to look for them in the wealthy part of
> town, that is assuming your town actually *has* an upscale
> neighborhood.
It does. I live in it.
Jim Alder
@news.twtelecom.net:
I just chekced and ours is by the hospital. Not mansion central but far
from the poor side of town. But who are we to get in the way of those who
loath the military?