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PJ O'Donovan

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Dec 30, 2009, 6:05:44 AM12/30/09
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"Systemic Failure" but B. Hussein Obama remains in Hawaii

12/30/09

"Five days after the Christmas Day bomber tried to blow up NWA Flight
253 over Detroit, President Obama is still on vacation in Hawaii. He
has delivered two hasty, tie-less statements on homeland security from
a makeshift podium in Honolulu whose underwhelming sum impact has been
the equivalent of voting “present” (Obama’s career m.o.) By his own
admission and in direct contradiction to his hapless DHS Secretary,
the president acknowledged yesterday that “systemic failure” led to
the breach.

Obama is not scheduled to return to Washington until Sunday. That’s
four more full days of reinforcing his image as detached, aloof, and
too damned tired to tackle the jihadi epidemic with the once-hyped
energy and passion of a 48-year-old Super-Agent of Hope and Change.

Team Obama’s stage managers and image gurus are all about symbolism.
Wouldn’t the president send a more credible message to jihadi plotters
around the world (and to Americans) by cutting his holiday break short
and getting back to work in the White House, rather than by phoning it
in for the next four days?

And how many more tropical paradise pow-wows and basketball games with
his Chicago cronies Valerie Jarrett, Marty Nesbitt, and Eric Whitaker
does he need, anyway?
We’ve gone from “Blood, toil, sweat, and tears” to “Beach, golf, (gym)
sweat, and (self-pitying) tears.”

Rough men stand ready to keep and defend our safety. As for President
Obama, it’s still Me Time.
***
This Politico piece tries to make hay of the supposedly unfair double
standard in how Bush was treated during the shoe bomber attack during
Christmas 2001 versus the “heat” that Obama is taking now for
remaining on holiday.

A few inconvenient differences and facts that the article glosses
over: Bush had been working non-stop since September 11 on homeland
security issues and had the public’s trust. The attacks consumed him.
By contrast, the current Democratic majority and White House have been
working non-stop to lower our defenses and speed the jihadi revolving
door.

In December 2001, Bush had not yet amassed his lousy record on
Katrina, Harriet Miers, Dubai Ports, shamnesty, and the massive
bailouts (all of which have been lambasted extensively on this website
and in my columns over the last four years). In December 2009, Obama
has already amassed enough Culture of Corruption material to fill an
encyclopedia set.

And unlike the low-key Bush, President Obama has been a shameless,
consummate TV hog from Day One — willing to turn anything and
everything, including a race-baiting tiff between his good friend
Professor Henry Louis Gates and Cambridge MA police — into a global
“teachable moment” of “unprecedented” proportions. When he doesn’t
rush to address Americans after a matter of real import strikes,
“heat” — no matter how hypocritical his supporters may paint it – is
entirely appropriate."


Related:

"...Two suggestions for the president: end the vacation and fire some
people. And if he wants to show that he isn’t cowering from an
increasingly infuriated public, he would do well to hold a press
conference and answer each and every question put to him. If he
chooses not to, the scandal may turn into Obama’s political hurricane,
akin to Katrina. Perhaps it already has...."


"Stop Releasing Terrorists
By the Editors

Less than two weeks ago, the Obama administration repatriated to Yemen
six detainees held at Guantanamo Bay. It was a test. About 90 of the
200 or so remaining Gitmo detainees are Yemenis. The president would
like to move toward fulfilling his promise to close Gitmo, and thus to
appease the antiwar Left, by transferring most of those Yemeni
jihadists back home....."

Wednesday, December 30, 2009

"Bleeding Hearts and Jihadi Revolving Doors


...The bleeding-heart ostriches of the left are blaming (who else?)
cowboy George W. Bush for radicalizing poor, oppressed Yemenis. But
the killer fruits of botched bomber Abdul Farouk Abdulmutallab's loom
have nothing to do with poverty, social injustice, Western imperialism
or Bush Derangement Syndrome. The fundamentalist Muslim is the
privileged son of a Nigerian public official. He lived a "gilded
life," as the Independent of London described it, studying engineering
at one of Britain's most prestigious universities before training for
terror in Yemen......"

hal

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Dec 30, 2009, 10:08:09 AM12/30/09
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:05:44 -0800 (PST), "PJ O'Donovan"
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>"Systemic Failure" but B. Hussein Obama remains in Hawaii

You mean like when Bush knew his friends the Saudis were attacking the
WTC but took a month vacation at his ranch?

FACE

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Dec 30, 2009, 1:27:39 PM12/30/09
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:08:09 GMT, in uk.politics.misc, hal, wrote


The desperation of you outright blatant liars is showing clearly..........

Earl Evleth

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Dec 30, 2009, 1:44:44 PM12/30/09
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On 30/12/09 19:27, in article 8r6nj5p8r015ku8o4...@4ax.com,
"FACE" <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:

>> You mean like when Bush knew his friends the Saudis were attacking the
>> WTC but took a month vacation at his ranch?
>
>
> The desperation of you outright blatant liars is showing clearly..........

he spent a lot of time away

"August 2006
"Bush has spent more than a year of his presidency" at his ranch in
Crawford, Texas. On August 19, 2005, "he broke Ronald Reagan's record of 335
days for America's most vacationed president and went on to take the longest
presidential vacation in 36 years," Dale McFeatters wrote August 8, 2006, in
a ScrippsNews editorial."

John Rennie

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Dec 30, 2009, 1:49:05 PM12/30/09
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Well he didn't need to bother that much really. Cheney
was running the country (into the ground).

yitzhak in eretz isreal (sic)

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Dec 30, 2009, 1:50:08 PM12/30/09
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487-Camp David
490-Ranch in Texas
43-Parents house
___________________
1020 days = 2.79 years ON VACATION!
<http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/19/politics/bush_legacy/main4735360.shtml>

Y.

--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
AADP's 'left-wing Israeli intellectual'
'I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix'
(Dan Quayle)
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

FACE

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Dec 30, 2009, 2:03:11 PM12/30/09
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:44:44 +0100, in uk.politics.misc, Earl Evleth
<evl...@wanadoo.fr>, wrote

I was not talking about whether or not he went on vacation -- but then you
knew that.

Bert Hyman

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Dec 30, 2009, 2:10:42 PM12/30/09
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So, you're saying that Bush and his administration are the models that
Obama is striving to emulate?

Interesting.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com

yitzhak in eretz isreal (sic)

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Dec 30, 2009, 2:14:52 PM12/30/09
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On 2009-12-30, Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> In news:4b3b6946...@news.newsguy.com hal wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:05:44 -0800 (PST), "PJ O'Donovan"
>><Xen...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Systemic Failure" but B. Hussein Obama remains in Hawaii
>>
>> You mean like when Bush knew his friends the Saudis were attacking the
>> WTC but took a month vacation at his ranch?
>
> So, you're saying that Bush and his administration are the models that
> Obama is striving to emulate?

Evidently not.

'Year 1 - Bush goes on vacation, Obama saves hundreds of lives'
<http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE56Q5NG20090728>

Seon Ferguson

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Dec 30, 2009, 5:19:09 PM12/30/09
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Only a racist would reffer to Obama as "B. Hussein Obama" did the left ever
call Bush G. Walker Bush? No. So that is evidence you are a racist American
hating troll.

PJ O'Donovan

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Dec 30, 2009, 5:48:26 PM12/30/09
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W

Seon Ferguson

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Dec 30, 2009, 6:45:40 PM12/30/09
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"PJ O'Donovan" <pjdn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I said do the left ever call Bush "G Walker Bush" the way you racists call
Obama "B Hussein Obama"

FACE

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:50:34 PM12/30/09
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On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:19:09 +1100, in uk.politics.misc, "Seon Ferguson"
<seo...@gmail.com>, wrote

>Only a racist would reffer to Obama as "B. Hussein Obama" did the left ever
>call Bush G. Walker Bush? No. So that is evidence you are a racist American
>hating troll.

I think your schizo

Brian

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Dec 30, 2009, 11:10:41 PM12/30/09
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On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:45:40 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:


>I said do the left ever call Bush "G Walker Bush" the way you racists call
>Obama "B Hussein Obama"
>

They called him a lot worse than that.

And while I'm not particularly fond of the B. Hussein Obama thing,
that is his name.

Eunometic

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Dec 31, 2009, 12:24:03 AM12/31/09
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On Dec 30, 10:05 pm, "PJ O'Donovan" <Xent...@aol.com> wrote:
> "Systemic Failure" but B. Hussein Obama  remains in Hawaii
>
> 12/30/09
>
> "Five days after the Christmas Day bomber tried to blow up NWA Flight
> 253 over Detroit, President Obama is still on vacation in Hawaii.

Meanwhile what is Janet Napolitano doing? This is her department:

ALIPAC called for the termination or resignation of Homeland Security
Chief Janet Napolitano earlier this year, when it was discovered her
department was instructing police officers to scrutinize Americans
concerned about popular issues such as illegal immigration, taxes, and
government spending as possible domestic terrorists. Napolitano's
"advisories" to police were based on strange Internet blogs and
political sources, instead of traditionally accepted law enforcement
methods.

From
http://wvwnews.net/

Seon Ferguson

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Dec 31, 2009, 12:52:03 AM12/31/09
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"Brian" <drmorri...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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His name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA no one but no one calls Bush G Walker bush
or Clinton B Jefferson Clinton. The only reason right wing racists like PJ
say B Hussein Obama is they think by using the fact that his second name is
Hussein people will be afraid of him. But the only one's who cares are
ignorant racists like him.

And yes the left may have called Bush worse names but never G Walker Bush.
That's my point.

Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:39:03 AM12/31/09
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PJ O'Donovan wrote:
>
> "Systemic Failure" but B. Hussein Obama remains in Hawaii
>

Did he land and tell folks this is the first time he's ever been
there?

Donna Evleth

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Dec 31, 2009, 6:22:26 AM12/31/09
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> From: "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups:
> alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,re
> c.travel.europe
> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:52:03 +1100
> Subject: Re: "Systemic Failure" but B. Hussein Obama remains in Hawaii

In fact Barack Hussein Obama is called Barack Hussein Obama because he was
named after his father. He was really Barack Hussein Obama Junior. Naming
a son "Junior" is not some exotic Middle Eastern custom it's a very common
practice in the US. In my own family, my husband and two of his nephews are
"Juniors". I personally find it a bad practice because it leads to
confusion, or worse. In Barack Hussein Obama's case, it's worse. I'll bet
he wishes that his parents had called him Joe or John or Bob.

Donna Evleth
>
>

Seon Ferguson

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Dec 31, 2009, 8:22:54 AM12/31/09
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"Donna Evleth" <dev...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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Actually I think PJ's problem is his middle name is Hussein. But I see your
point he was named after his father, not Saddam Hussein. I'm glad to see not
everyone in your country has fallen for the right wing fear mongering.

> Donna Evleth
>>
>>
>

jf...@my-deja.com

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Dec 31, 2009, 10:45:01 AM12/31/09
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On Dec 30, 11:10 am, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> So, you're saying that Bush and his administration are the models that
> Obama is striving to emulate?
After Richard Reid made his attempt, Shrub made everyone take off
their shoes to go through airport secutiry. Fortunately, Obama can
think and is not engagiing in useless theater. If he were to emulate
Bush, the TSA would be requiring us to take off our underwear!

Bert Hyman

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Dec 31, 2009, 11:16:43 AM12/31/09
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In
news:9f42b7ad-ba94-43b2...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com
"jf...@my-deja.com" <jf...@my-deja.com> wrote:

>If he were to emulate Bush, the TSA would be requiring us to take off
>our underwear!
>

Full-body scans with millimeter-wavelength radar will expose just as
much.

jf...@my-deja.com

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On Dec 31, 8:16 am, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> Full-body scans with millimeter-wavelength radar will expose just as
> much.
>
If the charges are shaped like a body part, will the machines be able
to distinguish them on a well-endowed and tumescent male or a well-
endowed female? Can you disguise it as something innocuous like a
pice of fruit or part of a sandwich?

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Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)

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"Mr.B1ack" wrote:
>
> "PJ O'Donovan" <Xen...@aol.com> wrote:
>

> >"Systemic Failure" but B. Hussein Obama remains in Hawaii
>

> So ?
>
> If a US prez can only do his job while sitting in
> a particular chair in a particular office in a
> particular building ..... geez, we'd be a pretty
> lame country if that were the fact.
>
This is the same argument used to attack Bush when he spent time in
the Western White House in Texas. It's bunk in both cases. Obama
should be seen in the American West. A president spends most of his
time on the East Coast. But the US has a large population that
isn't there.


> There are other, better, reasons to bitch about his
> little Hawaiian holiday - the taxpayer expense and
> CO2 created by burning all that jet fuel come to mind ...
>
That's also bunk except as a means to kick Al Gore in his fat
natural gas heated swimming pool ass. To the extent that Obama
wants to ruin (further ruin) the world economy to fight carbon
dioxide, a substance so toxic they put it in soda pop, feel free to
engage in kicking Obama in the ass too.

--
Tiger tells eleven mistresses, "I will leave my wife for you."

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

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Mr.B1ack wrote:
> "PJ O'Donovan" <Xen...@aol.com> wrote:
>

>> "Systemic Failure" but B. Hussein Obama remains in Hawaii
>

> So ?

At least he was immediately reachable, and didn't continue with a "photo
op" session with grade school children in his home town, while all hell
was breaking loose in New York and Washington! (Surely NO ONE can claim
GWB's behavior in a far more serious "emergency" was in any way
exemplary and to be used as a model!)

>
> If a US prez can only do his job while sitting in
> a particular chair in a particular office in a
> particular building ..... geez, we'd be a pretty
> lame country if that were the fact.
>

Planet Visitor II

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On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:52:03 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
>"Brian" <drmorri...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:kv8oj5lkjgbljj9h6...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:45:40 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I said do the left ever call Bush "G Walker Bush" the way you racists call
>>>Obama "B Hussein Obama"
>>>
>>
>> They called him a lot worse than that.
>>
>> And while I'm not particularly fond of the B. Hussein Obama thing,
>> that is his name.
>>
>His name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA no one but no one calls Bush G Walker bush
>or Clinton B Jefferson Clinton. The only reason right wing racists like PJ
>say B Hussein Obama is they think by using the fact that his second name is
>Hussein people will be afraid of him. But the only one's who cares are
>ignorant racists like him.
>
>And yes the left may have called Bush worse names but never G Walker Bush.
>That's my point.

Well if the left has called Bush _worse names_ than "B. Hussein Obama"
why don't you insist that those from the left doing so are also
racists???

Far be it from me to generally defend PJ, but this rather proves that
there is quite a bit of illogic behind your petty insults, showing you
are somewhat of a biased bigot yourself.

Planet Visitor II
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/dictionary.html

Seon Ferguson

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"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Because none of the insults the left gave Bush preyed on peoples xenophobia.
Calling Obama B. Hussein Obama heights the fact that his middle name is
Hussein. That's only scary for bigots.

Brian

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On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:21:34 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:


>Because none of the insults the left gave Bush preyed on peoples xenophobia.
>Calling Obama B. Hussein Obama heights the fact that his middle name is
>Hussein. That's only scary for bigots.

It isn't made up that Hussein is his middle name.

Fux Noise

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"Brian" <drmorri...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Obama is in the wh. You aren't.


Seon Ferguson

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"Brian" <drmorri...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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But so what if it is his middle name? No one ever called Bush G Walker Bush
or Clintin W Jefferson Clinton but the right started with Obama just because
his middle name is Hussein. Hey Bill Clinton's first name is Bill. Does that
mean he shares the same political views of Bill Orilley?

Brian

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On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:36:45 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:


>But so what if it is his middle name? No one ever called Bush G Walker Bush
>or Clintin W Jefferson Clinton but the right started with Obama just because
>his middle name is Hussein. Hey Bill Clinton's first name is Bill. Does that
>mean he shares the same political views of Bill Orilley?
>

If Bush's middle name had been something like Adolf, they would have.

Brian

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On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 18:30:30 -0800, "Fux Noise" <f...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

Bizarre

Seon Ferguson

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"Brian" <drmorri...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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Probably but at least you admit this is a way of attacking Obama. I think
the whole his middle name is Hussein is stupid. Judge him on the fact that
he and the democrats have continued Bush's policy of big spending or are
increasing war's.

John Rennie

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Jan 7, 2010, 6:44:02 AM1/7/10
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Very sad but achingly true.

Brian

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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 15:39:53 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:


>Probably but at least you admit this is a way of attacking Obama. I think
>the whole his middle name is Hussein is stupid. Judge him on the fact that
>he and the democrats have continued Bush's policy of big spending or are
>increasing war's.
>

Of course it's a way of attacking him and I've said I don't
particularly like it as a tactic. However, there are many people who
think anyone who criticizes Obama's policies is a racist, un-American,
etc.

Seon Ferguson

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"Brian" <drmorri...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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Just like with Bush. Remember the Dixie Chicks? A President will always have
die hard voters who accuse the other side of being anti American. Now that
you have your first black president the die hard supporters have the race
card on their side. But they are wrong, an anti American is someone who
hates America like those who carried out 911. You can criticise the
president just as long as you still think America is great I think it should
be ok. But I'm glad you disagree with the tactic of calling President Obama
B Hussein Obama. And yes, if Bush's middle name was Hitler or something the
left would have a field day.

Brian

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On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 09:11:26 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:


>


>Just like with Bush. Remember the Dixie Chicks? A President will always have
>die hard voters who accuse the other side of being anti American. Now that
>you have your first black president the die hard supporters have the race
>card on their side. But they are wrong, an anti American is someone who
>hates America like those who carried out 911. You can criticise the
>president just as long as you still think America is great I think it should
>be ok. But I'm glad you disagree with the tactic of calling President Obama
>B Hussein Obama. And yes, if Bush's middle name was Hitler or something the
>left would have a field day.
>

Amazing. We agree. <G>

Seon Ferguson

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"Brian" <drmorri...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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Hell has frozen over! :D

Brian

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 12:30:03 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:


>Hell has frozen over! :D
>

It feels like it here. That must have been what happened. <G>

Harry Heidelberg

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On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 09:11:26 +1100 in aus.politics Seon Ferguson posted:

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
... Theodore Roosevelt


ps Relevance to aus.politics ?
Just a query not necessarily a criticism.

Harry
"It is in the shelter of each other that people live."
Irish Proverb

AStext

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Jan 14, 2010, 10:32:32 PM1/14/10
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On Jan 6, 2:36 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Brian" <drmorrisnos...@comcast.net> wrote in message

>
> news:iuq7k51tnq5vt3020...@4ax.com...
>
> > On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:21:34 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >>Because none of the insults the left gave Bush preyed on peoples
> >>xenophobia.
> >>Calling Obama B. Hussein Obama heights the fact that his middle name is
> >>Hussein. That's only scary for bigots.

Only scary for people obsessed about restricting the free expression
of others. Not to anyone else.

> > It isn't made up that Hussein is his middle name.
>
> But so what if it is his middle name? No one ever called Bush G Walker Bush

WTF?

One of the great expressions of contempt for GW Bush was, and remains,
"Dubya". What is it, if not a rip on his middle name intended to
diminish him or express dislike of worse?

Thus karma does seem a bitch if you are president of the US and your
name is Hussein. But Hussein is big and ugly enough to fend for
himself, being a Chicagoland operator. Why are you so fussed?

> his middle name is Hussein. Hey Bill Clinton's first name is Bill. Does that
> mean he shares the same political views of Bill Orilley?

?

Petzl

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On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:32:32 -0800 (PST), AStext <ast...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> his middle name is Hussein. Hey Bill Clinton's first name is Bill. Does that
>> mean he shares the same political views of Bill Orilley?
>
>?

Osama Obama's first act was to release the lovely Moslem Terrorists
from Guantanamo Bay so they could join al-Qaeda and organize Umar
Farouk Abdulmutallab to wear explosives in his underwear
Petzl
--
If Islam looks like shit and smells like shit, why do you need to taste it?
And for those who already tasted that shit called Islam, I suggest you leave it now before it's too late.
And to those who already left that shit called Islam,
Welcome to the world of knowledge and modern civilization. A world of justice, freedom, liberty and democracy.

Seon Ferguson

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"Harry Heidelberg" <Err...@chfile.dne> wrote in message
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"anyone willing to give up liberty for security deserves neither and loses
both" Ben Franklin

>
> ps Relevance to aus.politics ?
> Just a query not necessarily a criticism.
>

It's not my job to take out groups. You should ask whoever cross posted this
to aus.politics. But that's a good question, what does Obama have to do with
Australian politics?

Seon Ferguson

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"AStext" <ast...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 6, 2:36 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Brian" <drmorrisnos...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> news:iuq7k51tnq5vt3020...@4ax.com...
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>> > On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:21:34 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >>Because none of the insults the left gave Bush preyed on peoples
>> >>xenophobia.
>> >>Calling Obama B. Hussein Obama heights the fact that his middle name is
>> >>Hussein. That's only scary for bigots.
>
> Only scary for people obsessed about restricting the free expression
> of others. Not to anyone else.
>

Or people who hate Muslims and think your politics are defined by your
middle name.

>> > It isn't made up that Hussein is his middle name.
>>
>> But so what if it is his middle name? No one ever called Bush G Walker
>> Bush
>
> WTF?
>
> One of the great expressions of contempt for GW Bush was, and remains,
> "Dubya". What is it, if not a rip on his middle name intended to
> diminish him or express dislike of worse?
>
> Thus karma does seem a bitch if you are president of the US and your
> name is Hussein. But Hussein is big and ugly enough to fend for
> himself, being a Chicagoland operator. Why are you so fussed?
>

Ok they made fun of his middle name but they never called him G. Walker
Bush. I'm "fussed" because racists like "PJ" call Obama B. Hussein Obama in
hopes of scaring people because his middle name happens to be Hussein.

>> his middle name is Hussein. Hey Bill Clinton's first name is Bill. Does
>> that
>> mean he shares the same political views of Bill Orilley?
>
> ?

Why did you take out what I was replying to? If you left it in you would see
it in full context.

Brian

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Jan 16, 2010, 6:24:47 PM1/16/10
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On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:46:45 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:


>Or people who hate Muslims and think your politics are defined by your
>middle name.

>Ok they made fun of his middle name but they never called him G. Walker
>Bush. I'm "fussed" because racists like "PJ" call Obama B. Hussein Obama in
>hopes of scaring people because his middle name happens to be Hussein.

His middle name is what it is. Bush's middle name isn't Dubya. That's
the one those don't like him made up as derogatory.

John Rennie

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Jan 16, 2010, 6:42:42 PM1/16/10
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It's not so much made up as just a skit on the Texas way of pronouncing W.

Donna Evleth

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Jan 17, 2010, 6:11:03 AM1/17/10
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> From: Brian <drmorri...@comcast.net>
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> Subject: Re: "Systemic Failure" but B. Hussein Obama remains in Hawaii

According to Wikipedia, "Dubya" is a nickname Bush chose for himself, based
on the way Texans pronounce the letter W.

Donna Evleth

Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)

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Jan 17, 2010, 12:12:48 PM1/17/10
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I'm not sure he called himself "Dumbya", however.


--
"Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually
said.

Donna Evleth

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> From: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
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> Subject: Re: "Systemic Failure" but B. Hussein Obama remains in Hawaii
>
>
>

I never did, either.

Donna Evleth

Seon Ferguson

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Jan 17, 2010, 11:50:12 PM1/17/10
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"Brian" <drmorri...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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Yeah but at least the people who didn't like Bush didn't resort to playing
on peoples racism and bigotry. They were just typical Bush haters.

Brian

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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:50:12 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:


>Yeah but at least the people who didn't like Bush didn't resort to playing
>on peoples racism and bigotry. They were just typical Bush haters.
>

Ah, yes. They typical "If you criticize Obama, you are a racist"
attitude.

Planet Visitor II

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Jan 23, 2010, 10:54:50 PM1/23/10
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:21:34 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Insults are nevertheless, insults. What about the pictures of Bush as
Hitler. What kind of emotion was that being preyed on people? See --
http://conservativedigest.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/bush_hitler2.jpg

L.Roberts

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On Jan 23, 7:54 pm, Planet Visitor II <na...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:21:34 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> >"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> >> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:52:03 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
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> >>>"Brian" <drmorrisnos...@comcast.net> wrote in message

 See --http://conservativedigest.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/
bush_hitler2.jpg

There's one of the bastards who are laughing at us.


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