Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Trump's GOP: Party further tightens tie to former president

7 views
Skip to first unread message

Leroy N. Soetoro

unread,
Mar 3, 2022, 2:43:47 PM3/3/22
to
https://thehill.com/homenews/wire/593004-trumps-gop-party-further-
tightens-tie-to-former-president

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — In 2016, Donald Trump overtook the Republican
National Committee through a shock and awe campaign that stunned party
leaders. In 2020, the party was obligated to support him as the sitting
Republican president.

Heading into 2024, however, the Republican Party has a choice.

The RNC, which controls the party’s rules and infrastructure, is under no
obligation to support Trump again. In fact, the GOP’s bylaws specifically
require neutrality should more than one candidate seek the party’s
presidential nomination.

But as Republican officials from across the country gathered in Utah this
week for the RNC’s winter meeting, party leaders devoted considerable
energy to disciplining Trump’s rivals and embracing his grievances. As the
earliest stages of the next presidential contest take shape, their actions
made clear that choosing to serve Trump and his political interests
remains a focus for the party.

“If President Trump decides he’s running, absolutely the RNC needs to back
him, 100%,” said Michele Fiore, an RNC committeewoman who has represented
Nevada since 2018. “We can change the bylaws.”

The loyalty to Trump is a fresh reminder that one of America’s major
political parties is deepening its alignment with a figure who is
undermining the nation’s democratic principles. As he fought to stay in
the White House, Trump sparked a violent insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.
More recently, he has explicitly said that former Vice President Mike
Pence could and should have overturned the election results, something he
had no power to do.

Away from the ballrooms of the RNC meeting, Pence rebuked Trump on Friday,
saying he had “no right to overturn the election” and that his former boss
was ”wrong” to suggest otherwise.

That kind of dissent was rare in Salt Lake City. In censuring two GOP
lawmakers who have criticized Trump and joined the committee probing the
Jan. 6 insurrection, the RNC channeled the former president in assailing
the panel for leading a “persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in
legitimate political discourse.”

Pence, whose life was threatened on Jan. 6, is one of a few Republicans
making moves toward a 2024 campaign regardless of whether Trump wages a
comeback bid. If he were to run for the White House again, Trump is such a
powerful force with the GOP base that he probably wouldn’t need the
party’s help to become the nominee.

Some Republicans said that’s beside the point.

“There’s probably some disagreement there,” said Bruce Hough, a longtime
RNC member from Utah who lost to a Trump ally in a race for party co-chair
last year. “The RNC has to provide a level playing field for any and all
comers for president. That’s our job. That’s what we have to do.”

But a stark divide has emerged between veterans like Hough, who are
devoted to the GOP as an institution, and a larger group of Trump-aligned
newcomers, who argue they’re bringing new energy to the party. Their chief
loyalty, however, seems to be to the former president.

“Leading up to 2020, or most of the time Trump was in office, he sent
around his minions to populate the committee with very loyal Trump folks
in a lot of red states,” said Bill Palatucci, an RNC committeeman from New
Jersey and frequent Trump critic. “And they still enjoy that strong
majority.”

The RNC’s continued embrace of Trump more than two years before the 2024
election is a decided shift from the party’s position in past elections.

In 2012 and 2016, for example, Reince Priebus as RNC chair went to great
lengths to ensure each of the candidates was treated equally. The party
sanctioned 12 debates, including early rounds that featured up to 17
candidates.

“Clearly, there’s a bias that didn’t exist in the past,” said Tim Miller,
who previously worked for the Republican National Committee and has since
emerged as a fierce Trump critic. “It’s all Trump all the time coming out
of there.”

A year ago, just after President Joe Biden’s inauguration, RNC Chair Ronna
McDaniel declined to encourage Trump to run again when asked, citing party
rules that require neutrality. She also discouraged attacks on those
Republicans who voted for Trump’s impeachment.

This week, however, she backed an effort by Trump loyalists to censure
Reps. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., and Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., a move triggered
almost entirely by their fight against Trump’s enduring influence in the
party beyond the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.

The censure, which passed on a voice vote Friday, says the two “support
Democrat efforts to destroy President Trump more than they support winning
back a Republican majority in 2022.”

McDaniel’s shift coincides with the RNC’s reliance on Trump for
fundraising. The party has issued hundreds of fundraising appeals since
Trump left office evoking his name. One offered this message to
prospective small-dollar donors on Tuesday: “YOU must stand with President
Trump and YOUR Party.”

In speeches made minutes before party leaders voted to censure Cheney and
Kinzinger, McDaniel and co-chair Tommy Hicks did not mention Trump and
stressed the need to unify for the 2022 midterm elections.

Though the committee’s moves demonstrated a sustained loyalty to the
former president, outside the winter meeting the censure was condemned by
opponents as divisive and contrary to frequent appeals from leaders to
expand the party’s tent.

The RNC’s discipline “shows more about them than us,” Kinzinger said in an
interview. “It shows that Trump and Trumpism has overtaken the RNC.”

Cheney in a statement said the move demonstrated how the party had become
hostage to Trump.

Indeed, this week’s focus on debates that won’t take place until 2024 and
on anti-Trump Republicans overshadowed the party’s preparations for the
midterm elections. That’s notable because the GOP could reclaim control of
at least one chamber of Congress and several governor’s mansions.

But this week, Trump’s grievances with his Republican critics took center
stage instead.

“We should be focused on what the voters are focused on,” said Caleb
Heimlich, chair of the Republican Party in Washington state, where two of
three Republican House members voted to impeach Trump following the Jan. 6
insurrection. “I’ve been talking to voters in Washington state, traveling
around and nobody talks about Cheney. That’s a D.C. topic.”

Others disagreed.

Harmeet Dhillon, an RNC committeewoman from California, said it was
imperative to send a clear message about Cheney and Kinzinger for her and
the legions of volunteers working to elect Republicans this year.

“The midterms are about a party electing its leaders, and what Adam
Kinzinger and Liz Cheney did here is defy their party’s leadership,”
Dhillon said. “I do not want to elect people in the midterms who do what
these two did.”

On Saturday, Trump weighed in with a statement congratulating the RNC and
McDaniel for their “great ruling” censuring “two Horrible RINOs.”

Beyond the censure, Republicans set in motion a rules change rooted in
another of Trump’s longstanding grievances. A measure advanced that would
force presidential candidates to sign a pledge saying they will not
participate in any debates sponsored by the Commission on Presidential
Debates advanced. It is expected to be voted on when RNC members convene
again in August.

“We are not walking away from debates,” McDaniel said. “We are walking
away from the Commission on Presidential Debates because it’s a biased
monopoly that does not serve the best interests of the American people.”

The eventual 2024 nominee, however, will have final say on whether to
participate.

Another Republican eyeing a White House campaign, Maryland Gov. Larry
Hogan, decried the RNC’s push to punish Trump’s rivals.

“The GOP I believe in is the party of freedom and truth,” the frequent
Trump critic tweeted Friday. “It’s a sad day for my party — and the
country — when you’re punished just for expressing your beliefs, standing
on principle, and refusing to tell blatant lies.”

___

Pence's former chief of staff: Trump's claims of overturning election...
Sunday shows - Trump-Pence division in the spotlight
Peoples reported from New York.

___

This story has been corrected to reflect that two of Washington state’s
three Republican House members, not two of the state’s three House
members, voted to impeach Trump after the Jan. 6 riot, and that the first
name of the RNC committeewoman from Nevada is Michele, not Michelle.

TAGS ADAM KINZINGER RONNA MCDANIEL REINCE PRIEBUS DONALD TRUMP LARRY HOGAN
MIKE PENCE LIZ CHENEY JOE BIDEN


--
"LOCKDOWN", left-wing COVID fearmongering. 95% of COVID infections
recover with no after effects.

No collusion - Special Counsel Robert Swan Mueller III, March 2019.
Officially made Nancy Pelosi a two-time impeachment loser.

Donald J. Trump, cheated out of a second term by fraudulent "mail-in"
ballots. Report voter fraud: sf.n...@mail.house.gov

Thank you for cleaning up the disaster of the 2008-2017 Obama / Biden
fiasco, President Trump.

Under Barack Obama's leadership, the United States of America became the
The World According To Garp. Obama sold out heterosexuals for Hollywood
queer liberal democrat donors.

President Trump boosted the economy, reduced illegal invasions, appointed
dozens of judges and three SCOTUS justices.

Jesus Guns Babies

unread,
Mar 3, 2022, 6:21:50 PM3/3/22
to
Trump is sick and will be dead before 2024.

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 5, 2022, 8:03:20 PM3/5/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 6, 2022, 5:02:54 PM3/6/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 6, 2022, 7:35:32 PM3/6/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 7, 2022, 10:23:43 AM3/7/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 7, 2022, 10:35:05 AM3/7/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 7, 2022, 10:53:04 AM3/7/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 7, 2022, 1:10:20 PM3/7/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 8, 2022, 11:24:11 AM3/8/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 9, 2022, 8:23:18 AM3/9/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 10, 2022, 7:42:44 AM3/10/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 10, 2022, 8:32:18 PM3/10/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 11, 2022, 1:36:20 PM3/11/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 14, 2022, 8:56:40 AM3/14/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 15, 2022, 1:36:42 PM3/15/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 16, 2022, 11:34:42 AM3/16/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 17, 2022, 9:25:54 PM3/17/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 19, 2022, 10:34:11 AM3/19/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 19, 2022, 3:20:51 PM3/19/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 19, 2022, 7:14:00 PM3/19/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 20, 2022, 2:47:23 PM3/20/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 21, 2022, 6:10:42 PM3/21/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 22, 2022, 2:56:09 PM3/22/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 23, 2022, 4:46:05 PM3/23/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 23, 2022, 10:28:02 PM3/23/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 25, 2022, 8:30:08 AM3/25/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 26, 2022, 1:10:31 PM3/26/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 28, 2022, 5:39:34 PM3/28/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 28, 2022, 7:45:54 PM3/28/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 28, 2022, 8:33:28 PM3/28/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 29, 2022, 10:25:47 AM3/29/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 29, 2022, 12:40:36 PM3/29/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 30, 2022, 10:42:53 AM3/30/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 30, 2022, 3:38:01 PM3/30/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 30, 2022, 5:07:44 PM3/30/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 31, 2022, 12:52:58 PM3/31/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Mar 31, 2022, 2:39:02 PM3/31/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 1, 2022, 9:53:42 AM4/1/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 2, 2022, 7:12:56 PM4/2/22
to

Limbaugh Whisperer

unread,
Apr 2, 2022, 8:45:04 PM4/2/22
to

Limbaugh Whisperer

unread,
Apr 2, 2022, 8:50:04 PM4/2/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 3, 2022, 7:26:45 AM4/3/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 3, 2022, 1:11:12 PM4/3/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 3, 2022, 6:38:14 PM4/3/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 4, 2022, 8:48:30 AM4/4/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 4, 2022, 11:26:48 AM4/4/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 4, 2022, 2:01:09 PM4/4/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 4, 2022, 5:14:25 PM4/4/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 4, 2022, 7:06:22 PM4/4/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 5, 2022, 8:26:22 AM4/5/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 5, 2022, 9:58:48 PM4/5/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 6, 2022, 8:29:22 AM4/6/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 6, 2022, 2:37:53 PM4/6/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 6, 2022, 9:48:24 PM4/6/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 7, 2022, 4:11:42 PM4/7/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 7, 2022, 9:46:11 PM4/7/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 8, 2022, 6:21:39 PM4/8/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 9, 2022, 8:50:23 AM4/9/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 9, 2022, 6:02:43 PM4/9/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 10, 2022, 9:06:46 AM4/10/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 10, 2022, 5:33:39 PM4/10/22
to

Trump Is A RUSSIAN ASSET

unread,
Apr 11, 2022, 6:57:02 AM4/11/22
to

Fred J McCall

unread,
May 13, 2023, 1:20:04 AM5/13/23
to
In article <ssq0d6$ltma$2...@news.freedyn.de>
governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Global warming is bullshit.
>

editor—The apocalyptic tone that Smith adopted in relation to
the environment bears little relation to reality.1 In his
editorial Smith asserts, “virtually all scientists agree that
global warming is happening.” Global warming is now joining the
list of “what everyone knows.”

Whether most scientists outside climatology believe that global
warming is happening is less relevant than whether the
climatologists do. A letter signed by over 50 leading members of
the American Meteorological Society warned about the policies
promoted by environmental pressure groups. “The policy
initiatives derive from highly uncertain scientific theories.
They are based on the unsupported assumption that catastrophic
global warming follows from the burning of fossil fuel and
requires immediate action. We do not agree.”2 Those who have
signed the letter represent the overwhelming majority of climate
change scientists in the United States, of whom there are about
60. McMichael and Haines quote the 1995 report of the
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which is
widely believed to “prove” that climate change induced by humans
has occurred.3 The original draft document did not say this.
What happened was that the policymakers’ summary (which became
the “take home message” for politicians) altered the conclusions
of the scientists. This led Dr Frederick Seitz, former head of
the United States National Academy of Sciences, to write, “In
more than sixty years as a member of the American scientific
community ... I have never witnessed a more disturbing
corruption of the peer-review process than the events that led
to this IPCC report.”4

Policymaking should be guided by proved fact, not speculation.
Most members of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
believe that current climate models do not accurately portray
the atmosphere-ocean system. Measurements made by means of
satellites show no global warming but a cooling of 0.13°C
between 1979 and 1994.5 Furthermore, since the theory of global
warming assumes maximum warming at the poles, why have average
temperatures in the Arctic dropped by 0.88°C over the past 50
years?5

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1112950/

Hutchinson's Fairy Tales

unread,
May 13, 2023, 7:41:08 PM5/13/23
to
In article <solq56$le7$1...@news.dns-netz.com>
governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Kill the pot growers. Seriously. They were going to kill the slaves.
>

MOJAVE DESERT, Calif. — As more states legalize cannabis, law
enforcement officials say they are seeing an uptick in black
market operators using suspected human trafficking victims to
grow and trim marijuana sold in legal dispensaries.

But authorities and advocates say helping these victims can be
complicated because many don't admit to being trafficked and are
unwilling to work with law enforcement agencies to take down
smugglers and dealers.

Nine of those suspected victims were arrested during an early
morning raid in May in California's Mojave Desert. The cannabis
workers, all Chinese nationals who had traveled from New York,
attempted to flee as law enforcement officials executed a search
warrant on the secluded farm.

Speaking through a Mandarin translator, one woman said she found
the job through a Chinese website. Some listings reviewed by NBC
News did not mention specific salaries, and others said they
could be negotiated in person.

“I have no money. What hope do I have?” said a worker named Jin,
who asked to be identified only by his first name.

All the workers apprehended said they had previously been
employed in restaurants before making the trek west; several
said they were eager to return to relatives on the East Coast.
None had been paid for their labor and they were living in
cramped, uncomfortable trailers near the illegal grow operation.

A worker named Fang, who also asked to be identified only by her
first name, said she left her 8-year-old son behind in New York.

“It’s very dirty, it’s very messy,” she said of the trailer
where she had been sleeping.

When asked if she had been told the truth about the kind of work
she would be undertaking, Fang said no.

Fang, Jin and the other workers were charged with misdemeanors
and later released, according to the San Bernardino County
Sheriff’s Department. The workers had been tending to 25
greenhouses, where law enforcement officials said they recovered
about 1,000 pounds of processed marijuana. The facility likely
generated $8 million in revenue quarterly, officials said.

None of the workers said they had been trafficked, but law
enforcement officials said they suspected otherwise.

"It's common for them to not give up any information on their
trafficker, to tell us that they feel safe, because, ultimately,
we believe they're in fear of their own safety if they say
anything other than that to us," said Sgt. James Roy of the
Riverside County Sheriff’s Department.

Attorney Xiaosheng Huang, who represents trafficking victims,
said many of his clients were exploited during the pandemic
after losing jobs in the hospitality industry. Desperate and
owing money to the people who smuggled them into the United
States, they sought employment anywhere they could find it,
including illegal grow operations in California, Washington,
Oklahoma and New Mexico.

In the last year alone, law enforcement officials in San
Bernardino County have shut down nearly 1,100 illegal grow
locations and more than 8,600 greenhouses, the sheriff’s
department said in a statement. This includes seizing more than
1.4 million cannabis plants, 97 tons of processed marijuana and
175 pounds of concentrated cannabis with an estimated street
value of $1 billion.

Other law enforcement investigations in Los Angeles and
Riverside counties pushed illegal cannabis seizures in the last
year to more than $1 billion, the California Department of
Cannabis Control said in a recent statement.

“This important milestone was reached through close
collaboration with local, state, and federal partners and
furthers California’s efforts to go after activities that harm
communities and the environment, including water theft, threats
of violence, elder abuse, and human trafficking to name a few,”
the department's director, Nicole Elliott, said in the statement.

California’s recreational cannabis program was created, in part,
to curb the black market and weaken drug cartels’ stranglehold
on the crop. But burdensome taxes and high costs of entry have
created a crisis within the increasingly unstable market, which
has been flooded in recent years by illicit growers and dealers
selling their cannabis at cheaper prices.

Gov. Gavin Newsom eliminated the “cultivation tax” on growers
earlier this year but counties will still be able to impose
their own such tax, which many in the industry call the single
most burdensome fee attached to growing marijuana legally.

A year ago, cultivators could get about $1,000 a pound
wholesale, but with the market saturated and supply higher than
demand, it has dropped to $300 or lower.

In many ways, California’s legalization push faced challenges
from the start. The state’s illegal market had flourished for
decades, stubbornly anchored in the “Emerald Triangle” of far
Northern California. Driven by cartels from Mexico and China,
the black market has since expanded to other parts of the state,
including rural areas of Southern California.

“If you look at the number of legalized grow locations for the
state, there’s not enough of those to funnel product for the
legal dispensaries,” said Lt. Marc Bracco of the San Bernardino
County Sheriff’s Department. “Over 70 or 80% of marijuana at
your dispensary is illegally cultivated.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/raids-black-market-cannabis-
farms-uncover-human-trafficking-victims-rcna46787

Fred J McCall

unread,
May 13, 2023, 8:15:33 PM5/13/23
to
In article <7MzSI.1620676$ImK8.1...@fx04.ams1>
governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Jews are hypocrits and they don't deny it.
>

The last thing that you'd expect from a group whose historic
mission is to monitor and fight anti-Semitism would be to
discover that the group is helping to spread woke ideological
indoctrination that grants a permission slip for Jew-hatred.

Yet that is exactly what the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has
been caught doing in a Fox News Digital exposé that uncovered
the fact that the curricula the group gives to schools as part
of its widely popular anti-hate programs includes critical race
theory (CRT) teachings about "white privilege," the need to
address the problems of "whiteness," praise for the anti-Semitic
Women's March group and support for the idea of contemporary
Americans paying reparations to those whose ancestors were
slaves. The curricula also buttresses myths about the 2014
shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri that helped give
birth to the noxious Black Lives Matter movement.

This is shocking not merely because it is one more piece of
evidence that the liberal gaslighting that CRT in the schools is
a figment of the conservative imagination is an obvious lie.
It's also important because due to its adherence to
intersectional myths about Israelis being "white" oppressors of
the "brown" Palestinians who want to destroy the one Jewish
state on the planet and American Jews possessing "white
privilege," CRT legitimizes anti-Semitism—something the ADL
purports to oppose.

Faced with proof that the materials that are distributed in
school districts around the nation as part of its anti-hate
programs are immersed in these woke leftist ideas that
legitimate racialist attitudes linked to Jew-hatred, the ADL was
forced to concede that the Fox report was accurate. A statement
from the group said, "There is content among our curricular
materials that is misaligned with ADL's values and strategy."

Yet the ADL still insisted, "We do not teach Critical Race
Theory. Period." Of course, a look at these curricula shows that
is exactly what they are doing. But the non-apology was an
attempt to pretend that it was all attributable to a simple
misunderstanding.

Founded in 1913 to address the threat from anti-Semitism in the
wake of the lynching of Leo Frank, an Atlanta Jew who was
wrongly accused of the murder of a non-Jewish girl, the ADL was
long considered the authoritative voice on hate and an important
resource for both Jews and non-Jews.

But in order to believe that what Fox discovered was merely a
one-off blunder, you'd have to ignore what's been happening to
the ADL in the seven years since former Clinton and Obama White
House staffer Jonathan Greenblatt took over as its CEO,
replacing long-time leader Abe Foxman. Greenblatt shifted the
ADL from a non-partisan Jewish defense organization to being
just another left-wing activist group whose priority is helping
the Democratic Party. Rather than being "misaligned" with the
ADL's mission, endorsements of CRT teachings are very much
aligned with the ADL's decision to latch on to radical ideas
about race in order to remain in touch with vogue Democratic
sentiment.

There was the ADL's endorsement of the Black Lives Matter
movement, which had itself endorsed anti-Semitic attacks on the
state of Israel, and its misguided "anti-racist" agenda. The ADL
even embraced veteran race-baiter Al Sharpton, who helped foment
the 1991 Crown Heights pogrom against Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn.
It defended two anti-Semitic members of Congress—Reps. Ilhan
Omar (D-MN) and Rashida Tlaib (D-MI)—against criticism from
former President Donald Trump largely on the basis that they
were "women of color." Then there was the fact that the ADL's
website had a definition of racism that invoked CRT teachings
about privilege.

The ADL's dubious complicity in Internet censorship with Big
Tech allies like Google and PayPal, ostensibly to educate
against hatred, also wound up promoting extremism rather than
stopping it.

And that's on top of the fact that Greenblatt has allowed the
ADL to become entrenched in partisan politics by involving it in
issues such as the battle to confirm Supreme Court Justice Brett
Kavanaugh. Even worse is the ADL's ongoing campaign to falsely
smear former President Donald Trump as the main reason for the
recent uptick in anti-Semitism or for attacks on Jews, even
though he was the greatest friend Israel ever had in the White
House, took unprecedented action against anti-Semitism on
college campuses, and has closer ties—both in terms of family
and close associates—to the Jewish community than any president
has ever had.

All this speaks to a pattern of behavior that demonstrates the
ADL is mired in leftist ideology and has fully bought into the
Black Lives Matter agenda of "equity," as opposed to genuine
equality. By emphasizing ideas about race and privilege even
though doing so gives a boost to the lies about Israel being an
"apartheid state," this behavior undermines the interests and
security of the very people the ADL was founded to stand up for.

That's a scandal that illustrates how a once-vital group has
betrayed its mission. But it's also an illustration of how woke
ideas like CRT can act as a toxic influence and subvert
institutions, including the federal government itself, to the
point where the institutions become complicit in racism rather
than a bulwark against it.

This saga is more proof that rather than being able to dismiss
the battle against CRT as a tangential conservative-populist
issue, any candidate who wants to be taken seriously as a
defender of basic American values must prioritize the struggle
to root out wokeism from our schools and the rest of society.

Jonathan S. Tobin is editor in chief of JNS.org, a senior
contributor to The Federalist and a columnist for the New York
Post. Follow him on Twitter at: @jonathans_tobin.

https://www.newsweek.com/adls-critical-race-theory-curricula-no-
accident-opinion-1741207

Wilson Woods

unread,
May 23, 2023, 8:40:05 AM5/23/23
to
In article <sg0j3l$qkf$3...@news.dns-netz.com>
governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Marijuana smokers are the largest group of incestuous vermin.
>

The alleged incestuous paedophile could face a 400-year sentence
if he is found guilty of all charges that have been made against
him

An alleged incestuous paedophile raped an underage female
relative more than 10 times in a bid to get her pregnant,
according to police reports.

Married Everett Whitt, 46, is alleged to have raped the girl
between January 2016 and October this year before his arrest on
Wednesday.

The stay-at-home dad is alleged to have kept on sexually
assaulting his victim until police in Cucumber, West Virginia
were notified.

It is understood officers were alerted just before Halloween.

Local media, who saw the police records, reported its contents,
adding: 鄭 forensic interview was conducted with a juvenile who
said that Everett Whitt had been raping her.

典his occurred more than 10 times between January 2016 to
October 2019.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/west-virginia-incest-
paedo-told-20892938

Fred J McCall

unread,
May 30, 2023, 1:50:04 AM5/30/23
to
In article <u53noa$1rk5b$1...@dont-email.me>
governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Democrats are hypocrits and they don't deny it.
>

Earlier this year, British comedian-turned podcaster Russell
Brand interviewed Thomas Frank, the long-standing liberal
defender of American populism. For a man who has spent several
decades imploring liberals to listen to what working-class and
rural America are saying, in this instance, he failed to heed
his own advice. When asked by Brand about the contemporary
American populist movement, as represented by Steve Bannon,
Frank replied,

"In my opinion, there is no such thing as right-wing populism,
there are people who mimic it, and Steve Bannon, Donald Trump,
would be people I would list. But populism is the Jeffersonian
tradition in American life. It is a democratic, left-wing
movement. It's about building a mass movement, a transracial
mass movement of working class people for economic democracy.
That's what it is, that's what it's always been."

With that one statement, Frank brushed off the closest thing our
current moment has to a democratic, transracial, mass movement
of working-class people. He dismissed the only the only serious
counterweight to woke corporate hegemony. He denigrated
contemporary working-class movements that are far closer to the
Wobblies of the early 20th century labor battles than they are
to the Black- or Brownshirts of the dark days of European
fascism.

Sadly, Frank is not an aberration but an exemplar par excellence
of a type of thinking that's taken hold of the Left, namely,
conflating being Left-wing with moral goodness, to the extent
that anything not Left-wing is a moral evil. Thanks to this line
of thinking, the Left has taken to seeing the actual populist
movements rising up across the globe as a threat—though these
Right-wing populist movements embody a broad coalition of non-
elites advocating for themselves against powerful governments
and corporations—in other words, the very thing that the Left is
supposed to itself embody.

Confronted with Right-inspired populist movements like parents
showing up at school board meetings in Virginia, truckers
protesting in Canada, and Brexit voters in the north of
England—people of all races who simply do not want their basic,
fundamental values transgressed—the Left sees only white
supremacists, fascists, and racists. Even the word "populism" is
more often than not preceded adjectives like "far right" and
"extremist" in mainstream liberal media.

The result is a truly tragic missed opportunity for solidarity
between Left and Right. But it's also proof of how far the Left
has fallen from its mission.

After all, what is a populist if not someone who stands for
fairness for the little guy: a level economic playing field,
financial reform, a scaling back of excessive government power,
and a rejection of absolutist ideologies. These were once Left-
wing values; now, the Left systematically portrays the
grassroots populist movements springing up across the world to
address these issues as white supremacist, far right actors.

This broad brush character assassination has reached the highest
levels of power, as evidenced by President Joe Biden's speech
last week denouncing MAGA Republicans in Philadelphia. The most
chilling thing the President said was not the accusation of
fascism against his political opposition, but rather, his
revealing statement that he can only work with "mainstream
Republicans." Biden wants you to think that he is cutting out
the "semi-fascist" MAGA wing, as he called them a few weeks ago,
but what he's actually doing is cutting out the populist wing.
Biden was essentially saying to any American looking for real
reform: You are my enemy.

That should have alarmed the liberal Left as much as it did the
Right. Yet the Left mostly embraced the speech. Like Thomas
Frank, if you're not Left, you can't possibly be on the side of
the good. Ergo, the thinking goes, you're on the side of
fascists.

They let themselves get away with this because they don't know
how to listen. Former Bernie Sanders spokesperson Briahna Joy
Gray acknowledged this a few weeks ago, as she patiently tried
to explain in an interview with progressive journalist Cenk
Uygur at The Young Turks that it might be wise for the Left to
recognize a difference between a sworn political adversary—she
mentioned Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green—and the ordinary
men and women who support Green, in case the Left might be able
to win them over. In response, Uygur spent most of the interview
berating Gray, calling her and others like her who are willing
to speak to people on the other side "fake Leftists."

Self-described progressive Uygur and his Young Turks show are
the Left-wing equivalent of the populist Bannon's War Room, a
popular podcast that reaches millions. But Uygur is far less
smart and less effective, in part because unlike Bannon, he has
no cross over appeal. He can barely have a civil discussion with
his own side. Meanwhile, Bannon welcomes onto his show with open
arms prominent left-wing figures like Naomi Wolf.

For the many who feel besieged by insane political rhetoric and
personal attacks, any genuine cross-party discussion feels like
sanity. But now Bannon is facing a host of charges over a border-
wall fundraising scam that Trump pardoned him for—something he
has cast as an attempt to silence him.

Whatever the legal technicalities of this case turn out to be,
for it to come from the same political culture that overlooked
the evidence of Hunter Biden's corruption means that Bannon's
prosecution will simply provide further proof to his fellow
populists that the state is intent on making an enemy out of
them.

It's a pretty amazing thing to see those who dare point out the
uni-party, who hold both Democrats and Republicans responsible
for policies that benefit the only the rich and corporations, be
attacked not by the Right but by the Left.

This tactic prevents a serious, effective, non-partisan, people-
led opposition. And who benefits from that?

Jenny Holland is a former newspaper reporter and speechwriter.
Visit her Substack here.

https://www.newsweek.com/left-demonizing-populists-pushing-what-
left-used-believe-opinion-1741529

Fred J McCall

unread,
May 30, 2023, 4:36:57 AM5/30/23
to
In article <u53nuc$1rk5b$2...@dont-email.me>
governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Democrats are hypocrits and they don't deny it.
>

The following is a lightly edited transcript of remarks made by
Brooke Goldstein during a Newsweek episode of The Debate about
free speech. You can listen to the podcast here:

First, I want to say, my deepest sympathies and compassion for
Mr. Rushdie. I hope that he recovers soon what happened to him
is absolutely horrific.

And I think the ripple effect is obvious. The deterrent effect
on freedom of speech when it comes to criticizing theology —
specifically, Islamist terrorism — because you might get
physically attacked, you might get assaulted, or you might be
murdered. And obviously Salman Rushdie is not the first or the
last person to have had a fatwa against him.

I actually had a fatwa also against me and my camera crew when
we filmed our movie, The Making of A Martyr. For that movie, I
risked my life to expose the recruitment of innocent Muslim
children towards violence to become suicide and homicide bombers
and child soldiers. And we were threatened as well. And not only
that, we were called Islamophobic by Western media.

And you know what occurred to me? If risking your life to raise
awareness about crimes against Muslim children is anti-Muslim,
what then is pro-Muslim? So hypocrisy abound, and obviously the
threats of violence create a situation which really chills open
and free dialogue about theologically motivated terrorism.

Brooke Goldstein is a human rights attorney, the founder and
executive director of The Lawfare Project, and the author of
Lawfare: The War Against Free Speech.

https://www.newsweek.com/free-speech-becoming-dangerous-again-
opinion-1739525

Wilson Woods

unread,
May 30, 2023, 4:51:35 AM5/30/23
to
In article <u53pdk$1rm00$4...@dont-email.me>
governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Marijuana smokers are the largest group of incestuous vermin.
>

That "daughter" needed a shave.

<https://i2-
prod.dailyst
ar.co.uk/inc
oming/articl
e20891411.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/0_SWNS_DEPTFORD_MURDER_004.jpg>

A man killed and dismembered a convicted serial sex offender in
revenge before strangling his daughter when she disturbed him,
police believe.

Nathaniel Henry, 37, sought retribution on a man who committed
33 offences including rape, sexual assault, burglary and theft.

There were 12 convictions, and seven of the offences were sexual
in nature.

Henry, the police's chief suspect, is thought to have killed
himself a day after the bodies were found on November 4, 2017,
and was discovered by officers on New Year's Eve that year.

The body of Noel Brown, 69, who was missing both arms from the
elbow down and his right leg, was discovered in his bath in his
Deptford, south London flat in November 2017.

Police believe Henry knew one of Noel Brown's victims and this
was the motivation for the murders.

The man's daughter, 41-year-old single mum of two Marie Brown,
was strangled to death when she is believed to have walked in on
her murderer dismembering her dad.

Both of then Henry's victims were throttled with surgical socks,
tubigrips and nearly two years after the double murder, the
missing body parts have never been found.

Ms Brown visited her dad after he had failed to answer his phone
for a few days in December 2017. After she failed to return, her
teenage daughter Venita contacted police who made the grisly
discovery.

The Metropolitan Police went through a lengthy process of
checking over 500 people's DNA before they finally came upon
Henry.

DCI Simon Harding said: "We checked every CCTV camera in the
estate. It was bad luck when the only camera that pointed at the
flat was the only one on the entire estate that wasn't working.

"The nearest street in Deptford attracts thousands of people on
a weekly basis as there are market stalls. This made tracking
CCTV very difficult."

Two spots of DNA were discovered on two tubigrips, one found
underneath Mr Brown's bed, and another in the living room where
Ms Brown was murdered.

The case matched DNA found at an aggravated burglary in 2011 in
Hounslow.

Using sophisticated tracking techniques of matching familiar DNA
at both scenes, police were able to pinpoint the closest match
of DNA to Nathaniel Henry's father.

DCI Helen Rance, who led the investigation, said: "He did not
understand why he needed our DNA and was at first very resistant
to that idea.

"We checked on him again and he eventually asked, 'does this
have something to do with my son?' We asked him what that meant,
and he said that his son had died.

"That was when we knew that we looking at a possible murder-
suicide."

Henry was a basketball coach and volunteered to work with under-
privileged children.

DCI Harding said: "He had a history of mental illness, but
nothing could have prepared us for this.

"We still don't know the trigger for why he committed this
homicide now."

Henry swallowed an overdose of cold medication and was found in
a cupboard, and both the coroner and police say they do not know
whether it was suicide or not.

DCI Rance said: "Our hypothesis is after we put out to the media
that Marie was a mother of two young girls, his mental health
may have declined even further."

Henry's computer was not seized until months after his death,
and it was wiped clean. His iPhone was also seized but was
locked and remains a mystery to the police.

DCI Rance: "The investigation was incredibly successful in
identifying a killer. Any murder investigation that is
ultimately solved has to be considered a success.

"It would be fair to say there was a tinge of disappointment
when we identified the killer that he was dead. We would have
liked to have questioned that person why he did it. We won't be
able to have it in this case.

"I am 100% certain we have the killer. His DNA is in Noel's flat
and Noel's DNA is on his jacket. We have CCTV of him leaving and
arriving on the scene on a bike. There's no doubt in my mind."

Police said the briefing held at New Scotland Yard on Friday was
to present the evidence they would have had at court.

DCI Rance said: "Nathaniel Henry was not convicted of any crime
and we have to reiterate this.

"He would have been our chief suspect and the man we would have
charged with the crimes of these two killings and put him
forward for the CPS to prosecute.

"It is disappointing for the victim's families who won't be able
to have closure in this way."

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/murderer-
dismembered-sex-offender-killed-20891491

Bill Steele

unread,
Sep 27, 2023, 9:40:04 AM9/27/23
to
In article <uelrj1$lrio$4...@dont-email.me>
David Hartung <kicking....@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> The FBI is a corrupt organization of political sycophants.
> Hillary must have sucked some serious dick.
>

Many on social media had some fun at the expense of former
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton after pictures emerged from
her visit to an art exhibit in Venice, Italy, inspired by her
tenure in office.

The exhibit at the Despar Teatro Italia, titled 滴ILLARY: The
Hillary Clinton Emails," displays a replica of the Oval Office's
Resolute Desk and over 60,000 pages of Clinton's emails.

According to Kenneth Goldsmith, the artist behind the exhibit,
Clinton "spent an hour" reading her own emails and shared
pictures of her visit.

Whoops! We couldn't access this Tweet.
Clinton reportedly told local media that the exhibit "is further
proof that nothing wrong or controversial can be found on these
emails."

The failed 2016 presidential candidate was widely mocked on
Twitter.

"Hillary should fire all of her advisors and anyone else who
said this was a good idea," syndicated columnist Jonah Goldberg
reacted.

Some particularly had fun with the photo she took behind the
Resolute Desk and compared it to cartoons and films.

Others, however, also invoked the "30,000" emails that Clinton
had erased amid her email controversy.

Joseph A. Wulfsohn is a media reporter for Fox News Digital.
Story tips can be sent to joseph....@fox.com and on
Twitter: @JosephWulfsohn.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/hillary-clinton-gets-brutally-
mocked-for-reading-printouts-of-her-own-emails-at-art-exhibit

Peeder G Rabbit

unread,
Feb 6, 2024, 3:23:44 PMFeb 6
to
On 15 Jan 2024, Edward Blum <el...@protonmail.com> posted some
news:uo4trs$19ls4$3...@dont-email.me:

> Typical Whitmer voter. She's a Democrat slut more interested in
> getting her pussy packed than raising a kid.

Jennifer Crumbley, the mother of the teenager who killed four students
at an Oxford, Michigan, high school in 2021, was found guilty Tuesday of
all four counts of involuntary manslaughter in a novel legal case that
stood as a test of the limits of who’s responsible for a school
shooting.

The jury of 12 deliberated for more than 10 hours. Jennifer Crumbley
looked down at her clasped hands as the verdict was read. She was taken
from the courtroom in shackles.

Crumbley, 45, had pleaded not guilty to the charges in the November 30,
2021, mass shooting at Oxford High School, in which her son killed four
students and wounded six students and a teacher.

She faces up to 15 years in prison, and her sentencing hearing was set
for April 9. She has been behind bars since her arrest in a Detroit
warehouse days after the shooting.

The prosecution’s case relied on an unusual and novel legal strategy and
represented an attempt to expand the scope of blame in mass shootings.
While parents have previously faced liability for their child’s actions
– such as with neglect or firearms charges – this was the first time a
parent of a school shooter was held directly responsible for the
killings.

“It was a long time coming, but it’s definitely a step towards
accountability that we’ve been talking about,” Craig Shilling, the
father of 17-year-old shooting victim Justin Shilling, told CNN
affiliate WXYZ. “It’s kind of been our goal the whole time.”

Crumbley’s husband, James, is scheduled to go on trial on the same
charges in early March. Jennifer Crumbley’s defense and the prosecution
were barred from speaking publicly about her case until the end of James
Crumbley’s trial.

Their son Ethan pleaded guilty to one count of terrorism causing death,
four counts of murder and 19 other charges related to the deadly
rampage. He was sentenced last year to life in prison without parole. He
did not testify in this trial, as his attorneys said he would invoke his
Fifth Amendment right to silence.

The prosecution argued Jennifer Crumbley is responsible for the deaths
because she was “grossly negligent” in giving a gun to her son Ethan,
who was 15 at the time, and failing to get him proper mental health
treatment despite warning signs. Over a week of testimony, law
enforcement officials, school employees, shooting victims and those who
knew Jennifer Crumbley testified for the prosecution.

“It’s a rare case that takes some really egregious facts,” Oakland
County Prosecutor Karen McDonald said in closing arguments Friday. “It
takes the unthinkable, and she has done the unthinkable, and because of
that, four kids have died.”

However, the defense argued the blame lay elsewhere: on her husband for
improperly securing the firearm; on the school for failing to notify her
about her son’s behavioral issues; and on Ethan himself, who planned and
carried out the attack on his own. Defense attorney Shannon Smith said
the case was “dangerous” for parents everywhere.

“Can every parent really be responsible for everything their children
do, especially when it’s not foreseeable?” Smith said in closing
arguments.

Jennifer Crumbley took the stand in her own defense and, in a remarkable
moment, expressed no regret for her actions.

“I’ve asked myself if I would have done anything differently, and I
wouldn’t have,” she testified.

What happened in the trial

The prosecution’s case against Jennifer Crumbley has focused on three
main aspects: her knowledge of her son’s mental issues, how he got
access to the firearm and her actions at a pivotal school meeting on the
morning of the shooting. Prosecutors sought to portray her as an
inattentive mother, more interested in her horses and her extramarital
affair than her son’s well-being.

First, the prosecution alleged she knew or should have known about
Ethan’s deteriorating mental health issues. For example, he sent a
series of texts to her in the spring of 2021 in which he said there was
a ghost or devil in the house and pleaded for her to respond, but she
did not do so. He also texted a friend that he had told his parents
about the hallucinations and asked for help but his mother laughed at
him.

However, in her testimony, Crumbley said the texts about a ghost were
just Ethan “messing around,” part of an ongoing joke about their house
being haunted. She also said his text to a friend was false and he had
never actually asked for help.

“I thought we were pretty close. We would talk. We did a lot of things
together. I trusted him, and I felt like I had an open door and he could
come to me about anything. I felt as a family the three of us were very
close,” she said.

Second, the prosecution accused Crumbley of gifting a gun to her son and
improperly storing it. Surveillance video shows she and Ethan went to
the gun range and took turns shooting on November 27, 2021, days before
the shooting. “Mom & son day testing out his new Xmas present,” she
wrote afterward on social media.

“The shooter was given the murder weapon by his parents, and this parent
is sitting here on trial today,” McDonald said in her closings.

But in her testimony, Crumbley testified that safely storing the gun was
her husband’s responsibility. “I just didn’t feel comfortable being in
charge of that,” she said. “It was more his thing, so I let him handle
that. I didn’t feel comfortable putting the lock thing on it.”

Finally, the prosecution highlighted her inaction in a meeting with
school employees the day of the shooting. That morning, a teacher found
a drawing from Ethan showing a gun and a person bleeding along with the
phrases “the thoughts won’t stop help me,” “blood everywhere” and “my
life is useless.” The Crumbleys were called into school for a meeting,
and a school counselor testified he recommended the parents take their
son home from school to get immediate mental health treatment.

The Crumbleys declined to do so that day because they didn’t want to
miss work, the counselor testified, so the group agreed to keep Ethan in
school for the rest of the day. They also did not mention to school
employees that they had just purchased him a new gun or his previous
hallucinatory texts. Shortly after the meeting, the teenager took a
firearm out of his backpack and opened fire on classmates, killing Hana
St. Juliana, Tate Myre, Madisyn Baldwin and Justin Shilling.

“Just the smallest of things could have saved, could have helped, Hana
and Tate and Madisyn and Justin,” McDonald said. “Just the smallest of
things. And not only did she not do it, she doesn’t even regret it.”

However, the school dean testified he did not view the drawings as
threatening, though he also said he did not know and was not told that
Ethan had access to a firearm and had been having mental health issues.
Jennifer Crumbley testified the school meeting was “nonchalant” and
“brief.”

“We agreed that it might stress him out more to do his school remotely
the rest of the day. But there was never a time where I would refuse to
take him home,” she testified.

This story has been updated with additional information.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/06/us/jennifer-crumbley-oxford-shooting-trial
/index.html

D. Ray

unread,
Feb 6, 2024, 4:50:28 PMFeb 6
to
Peeder G Rabbit <whitmer-v...@jan6.org> wrote:
> On 15 Jan 2024, Edward Blum <el...@protonmail.com> posted some
> news:uo4trs$19ls4$3...@dont-email.me:
>
>> Typical Whitmer voter. She's a Democrat slut more interested in
>> getting her pussy packed than raising a kid.
>
> Jennifer Crumbley, the mother of the teenager who killed four students
> at an Oxford, Michigan, high school in 2021, was found guilty Tuesday of
> all four counts of involuntary manslaughter in a novel legal case that
> stood as a test of the limits of who’s responsible for a school
> shooting.

Based on this precedent you could lock up almost every single black mother
in America. But I guarantee this will never be used against black parents,
even those that know of and assist their children's criminal behavior. This
case was pursued against these people purely because they are White. And
they were convicted not based on any fact, but just because the prosecution
painted an unfavorable picture of them personally. The idea that this
government gives any fucks about negligent parenting is a joke. If they did
literally every black parent would be locked up.

68g.1499

unread,
Feb 7, 2024, 12:43:37 AMFeb 7
to
On 2/6/24 3:23 PM, Peeder G Rabbit wrote:
> On 15 Jan 2024, Edward Blum <el...@protonmail.com> posted some
> news:uo4trs$19ls4$3...@dont-email.me:
>
>> Typical Whitmer voter. She's a Democrat slut more interested in
>> getting her pussy packed than raising a kid.

Don't care about her sex drive ...

This was a flawed, potentially dangerous, verdict. No
matter what anyone says, kids - esp teens - are individual
people on their own tracks. There's no predicting what
they will do and not much in practice that can be done
about it.

So now, I guess kiddies have to be kept chained to the
walls 24/7 ?

68g.1502

unread,
Feb 7, 2024, 9:54:41 AMFeb 7
to
So, from now on, ALL YOUR KIDS MUST BE KEPT CHAINED
TO THE WALL 24/7/365 or you're in severe danger of
being arrested for anything they might do.

This IS the import of this precedent.

Sorry, but kiddies are *persons* with their own
wills. The only practical way to ensure what they
do with said wills is 101% legal is to KEEP THEM
CHAINED TO THE WALL.

Fred J McCall

unread,
Feb 22, 2024, 5:45:04 AMFeb 22
to
In article <t2o3up$3oqde$8...@news.freedyn.de>

Fred J McCall

unread,
Feb 22, 2024, 6:25:04 AMFeb 22
to
In article <t2s487$3r3mn$1...@news.freedyn.de>
0 new messages