More gun-loon racism against Rep. Major Owens **
Rack Jite
Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anthony Garcia) was saying...
*Libertarianism does not have anything to do with anti-semitism, as you
*well know. Please refrain from smearing Libertarians as anti-semites.
*-Anthony Garcia
Reminds that I have failed to do a good a job of that as I should
have.
As Zundel is Canadian, the top "kike" hating, Holocaust Revisionist,
anti-Semite on the net from America is Matt Giwer, a proud member of
the Libertarian Party... And like so many other Libertarians, Billy
Beck for example, he also reigns supreme in pushing out point blank
death threats. You should be proud...
"All honorable men of good character who may be lucky
enough to get a BJ, not only refrain from pointing
the finger, but lie about it if asked." Father Jite
Conservatively Incorrect ----> http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/
Rack Jite
Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anthony Garcia) was saying...
*And Rack Jite <rack...@worldnet.att.net> responded:
*> Hey pal, it is Bob Knauer who is painting members of the LP as
*> anti-semites...
*I see. So you're saying, that when you disagree with someone, the
*proper response is to smear them with some sort of inaccurate and
*libelous allegation? Do I understand you correctly?
*Why is it that the Libertarian Party, more than any other political
*party in history (I presume you include the Republicans) deserves such
*smearing?
Well for one thing, you are making my email to you public which is the
loe road crap so very typical of Libertarians. As the party slogan
goes... Liberty for me and fuck you.
And now yer claiming libel? See what I mean about Libertarians? :)
*I wasn't aware that racists and anti-semites *were* moving to the
*Libertarian Party in "droves". I only know of a few like Mr. Knauer
*there. And I don't think that he moved to join the Libertarian Party
*because of some imaginary "Exterminate The Jews" plank in the party
*platform.
I agree. Many move to the LP because they are ignorant, intolerant
little right-wing bigots who realize the LP helps them arrive at their
ends with nicer sounding rhetoric. But the majority move to the LP for
the gungoonery, the militias for example.
Christopher Morton
>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
>aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anthony Garcia) was saying...
>
>*Libertarianism does not have anything to do with anti-semitism, as you
>*well know. Please refrain from smearing Libertarians as anti-semites.
>*-Anthony Garcia
>
>Reminds that I have failed to do a good a job of that as I should
>have.
>
>As Zundel is Canadian, the top "kike" hating, Holocaust Revisionist,
>anti-Semite on the net from America is Matt Giwer, a proud member of
>the Libertarian Party... And like so many other Libertarians, Billy
>Beck for example, he also reigns supreme in pushing out point blank
>death threats. You should be proud...
Isn't it strange how David Dahlman of Seabrook, Texas CONVENIENTLY
ignores the National Alliance, including Milton Kleim, Les Griswold,
Larry Jansen, Mark Craig, Evelyn Hill, Doc Tavish and "Our Hero".
Maybe it's not so strange when you consider that Dahlman's called
those REAL Nazis, "polite and honest".
---
BATF: the Aryan Nations with an NEA grant.
Christopher Morton
On 19 Apr 1998 21:59:48 -0500, aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anthony
Garcia) wrote:
>Mr. Morton:
>
>1.) If "Rack Jite" chooses to use a pseudonym on USENET, that's
>perfectly okay. It's inappropriate for you to attempt to "out" him by
>posting what you think is his real name and home city.
It is NOT inappropriate, as that information has been public record
for a VERY long time, something like 14 years in fact.
And that of course leaves out his established pattern of pretending to
be SEVERAL persons, AT ONCE, said aliases being used to deceive
others. One of his previous aliases "outman" was used to threaten his
other aliases, "proving" that pro-gun people were "violent".
What do you find less appropriate, using someone's real name, or
harassing their employer? Dahlman has repeatedly done the latter to
people who post from work accounts.
>2.) It seems unlikely that Mr. Jite can be correctly associated with
>National Alliance or other hate groups, since he appears to have
>strong feelings against hate groups. If you can quote or point to an
>article where Mr. Jite actually says something racist, go ahead. But
>lacking such evidence, please refrain from attempting to smear
>Mr. Jite as being a member of or being sympathetic to National
>Alliance or other racist hate groups.
The plain fact is that Dahlman considers using his real name WORSE
than calling for the annhilation of the Jews.
During his short presences in soc.culture.african.american.moderated,
he spent the majority of his time ordering the Black participants
around and tell us that we apparently owed him something. He was
eventually ejected from the group for an utter refusal to obey the
rules of the moderators and for behavior such as threatening others.
>> Maybe it's not so strange when you consider that <alleged name> called
>> those REAL Nazis, "polite and honest".
>
>I infer from comments made by you and others that Mr. Jite has
>referred to representatives of National Alliance as "polite and
>honest". That may be so. Even if it is, however, it is hardly
>grounds for alleging that Mr. Jite is a member of National Alliance or
>sympathetic to their fucked-up racist attitudes. Please bear this in
>mind.
Please bear in mind that some of us have known Dahlman for a VERY long
time and know exactly what he's capable of.
volt...@geocities.com
>In article <353f964c....@enews.newsguy.com>,
>Christopher Morton <cm...@nwohio.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Apr 1998 13:58:36 GMT, rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack
>> Jite) wrote:
>> > Anthony Garcia <aga...@neosoft.com> wrote:
>> > >Libertarianism does not have anything to do with anti-semitism, as you
>> > >well know. Please refrain from smearing Libertarians as anti-semites.
>> > >-Anthony Garcia
>> >
>> > Reminds that I have failed to do a good a job of that as I should
>> > have.
>> >
>> > As Zundel is Canadian, the top "kike" hating, Holocaust Revisionist,
>> > anti-Semite on the net from America is Matt Giwer, a proud member of
>> > the Libertarian Party... And like so many other Libertarians, Billy
>> > Beck for example, he also reigns supreme in pushing out point blank
>> > death threats. You should be proud...
>>
>> Isn't it strange how <alleged name> of <alleged location> CONVENIENTLY
>> ignores the National Alliance, including Milton Kleim, Les Griswold,
>> Larry Jansen, Mark Craig, Evelyn Hill, Doc Tavish and "Our Hero".
>
>Mr. Morton:
>
>1.) If "Rack Jite" chooses to use a pseudonym on USENET, that's
>perfectly okay. It's inappropriate for you to attempt to "out" him by
>posting what you think is his real name and home city.
The right wing gun extremists on here have been doing that for years.
>2.) It seems unlikely that Mr. Jite can be correctly associated with
>National Alliance or other hate groups, since he appears to have
>strong feelings against hate groups. If you can quote or point to an
>article where Mr. Jite actually says something racist, go ahead. But
>lacking such evidence, please refrain from attempting to smear
>Mr. Jite as being a member of or being sympathetic to National
>Alliance or other racist hate groups.
Of course not. Strangely enough the most reactionary fools on these
groups including Chris Morton, Patrick Humphrey, and Nazi Bob
regularly label liberals as Nazis.
>> Maybe it's not so strange when you consider that <alleged name> called
>> those REAL Nazis, "polite and honest".
>
>I infer from comments made by you and others that Mr. Jite has
>referred to representatives of National Alliance as "polite and
>honest". That may be so. Even if it is, however, it is hardly
>grounds for alleging that Mr. Jite is a member of National Alliance or
>sympathetic to their fucked-up racist attitudes. Please bear this in
>mind.
What Rack said was that even the Nationalist Alliance scum was "more"
polite and honest than Chris Morton. Read a few of his rants and you
will see why.
Andy is a true Libertarian who hates to see the more moderate members
of his party smeared by the right wing wackos who try to declare
themselves Libertarians.
He has been attacked with as much venom as is used on liberals who
stand up to the Looneytarian extremists.
===========================================================================
On Tue, 14 April 1998, R. Knauer <rckt...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
Look, you insignificant little pipsqueak fuckwit. I will identify
myself with wherever I goddam please. And if you don't fucking like
it, shove it up your little puckered ass, spicboy.
Suspect all you want. As far as I am concerned, spicboy, you can piss
in one hand and wish in the other - and find out which one gets wet
first for yourself. What a complete moron spicboy.
Any other dumbfucks wanna be called names around here?
Bob Knauer
===========================================================================
Now Chris, Patrick, Don Day, Nazi Bob and their ilk will be attacking
him for being a moderate.
Welcome to the political subs, Andy.
Jim
Ecrasons l'infame
Join The War On Right Wing Ignorance:
http://home.att.net/~clusterone/
========================================================================
From the Liberal Dictionary:
Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.
======================================================================
Patrick L. Humphrey
volt...@geocities.com writes:
Bullshit, Jimbo. He did it himself fifteen years ago -- and he's been pissing
his pants ever since for no other reason than that I remembered his real
name. His real name has been a matter of public record that long...and
curiously enough, _none_ of the terrible things he screamed would happen to
him have done so in that time. His kids are young adults by now, so that
torpedoes _that_ excuse of his -- and why is it he never went to the police in
all that time, if he really was in such fear for his life?
His actions speak far louder than his words -- and his actions brand him as a
liar, plain and simple.
>>2.) It seems unlikely that Mr. Jite can be correctly associated with
>>National Alliance or other hate groups, since he appears to have
>>strong feelings against hate groups. If you can quote or point to an
>>article where Mr. Jite actually says something racist, go ahead. But
>>lacking such evidence, please refrain from attempting to smear
>>Mr. Jite as being a member of or being sympathetic to National
>>Alliance or other racist hate groups.
>Of course not. Strangely enough the most reactionary fools on these
>groups including Chris Morton, Patrick Humphrey, and Nazi Bob
>regularly label liberals as Nazis.
More Kennemurian bullshit, eh, Jimbo? Why is it you and Dave seem to be
afraid of acknowledging even the possibility that I don't conform to your
little pigeon-holed fantasy image of me? I'm about as reactionary as YOU are,
schmuck! I'm _so_ fucking reactionary, I've only been pro-choice since my
high-school days thirty years ago, I've _still_ got the banner trumpeting the
Supreme Court's decision nuking the "Communications Decency Act" from last
summer, I spent the better part of four years hoping that Nixon would be
driven from office in disgrace...yeah, some reactionary I am. Never mind that
you can't unearth an instance of me "regularly" labeling you, Dahlman,
S. Shawn Smith, or any of your deluded friends as Nazis, or that you don't
bother to think before you apply your paintbrush to a whole group of people
because they dare to disagree with your idiocy -- no, it's much easier to take
the coward's way out by just calling names right and left, and never answering
any questions that might cast you in a less than complimentary light. You
might sprain a brain cell or something if you actually thought about what you
were doing.
>>> Maybe it's not so strange when you consider that <alleged name> called
>>> those REAL Nazis, "polite and honest".
>>I infer from comments made by you and others that Mr. Jite has
>>referred to representatives of National Alliance as "polite and
>>honest". That may be so. Even if it is, however, it is hardly
>>grounds for alleging that Mr. Jite is a member of National Alliance or
>>sympathetic to their fucked-up racist attitudes. Please bear this in
>>mind.
>What Rack said was that even the Nationalist Alliance scum was "more"
>polite and honest than Chris Morton. Read a few of his rants and you
>will see why.
You'll see that David Dahlman is, as usual, trying to pass off his opinions as
fact, the truth be damned. Hope this helps.
>Andy is a true Libertarian who hates to see the more moderate members
>of his party smeared by the right wing wackos who try to declare
>themselves Libertarians.
What makes _you_ an authority on libertarian philosophy, Jimbo? You're not
interested in it anyway, save to find new ways of inventing false and
semi-libelous allegations about your imagined adversaries...and you're saying
_I'm_ a member of the LP? That only shows your interest in getting actual
facts, I guess...I've _never_ been a member of the LP.
>He has been attacked with as much venom as is used on liberals who
>stand up to the Looneytarian extremists.
Sure, Jimbo...how many people have gone to Dave's employers trying to get him
fired, again? NONE. How many people has Dave tried to have fired because he
didn't want them airing their opinions? At least five, and that's just in
Usenet...and I know that much, being one of the five.
Believe me, Jimbo, I'd try to see things YOUR way -- but I can't get my head
that far up my ass.
--PLH, wondering why Kennemur was so silent while his lapdog S. Shawn Smith
was busy forging quotes I never said and attributing them to me...or is that
okay when _his_ side does it?
Christopher Morton
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:20:30 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>What Rack said was that even the Nationalist Alliance scum was "more"
>polite and honest than Chris Morton. Read a few of his rants and you
>will see why.
Here's Dahlman's schtick:
To David Dahlman of Seabrook, Texas, it's one thing to call for the
extermination of every Jew living today and to deny the Holocaust; but
to use his real name, that's EVIL.
Rack Jite
Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anthony Garcia) was saying...
*> Well for one thing, you are making my email to you public which is the
*> loe road crap so very typical of Libertarians. As the party slogan
*> goes... Liberty for me and fuck you.
*> And now yer claiming libel? See what I mean about Libertarians? :)
*
*I violated this particular rule of USENET etiquette because I desired
*to see a response from you regarding comments you made to me in email.
Yes, I made a mistake, I responded to a email from a wacked out
looneytarian. I am sorry, I did not know you were also posting it
public. And look! Yer still sending me email I DONT WANT! :)
I dont want to talk to looneytarians, I've been reading their oneous
crap in these groups for 15 years! I KNOW what its about Andy...
YOU DONT FOOL ME.
*I guessed that if I replied to you via email, that you would not
*respond, denying me further insight into your feelings and thoughts.
What more do you need? Looneytarians are selfish little gunloon
bastards who have gone of the deep end into Right-wing Shitism.
There is nothing more to add. :)
*I apologize, not only for violating USENET etiquette
But I got 3 or 4 more emails from you after this! :)
They don't call em LOONEYTARIANS for nothing hey?
And as far as Morton goes, the statement of mine he is chopping, which
I proudly make often, is "the net behavior of the members of the
National Alliance I have seen post here are more ethical, honest and
polite than Chris Morton." And that is as true as it gets! Let me tell
you!
I have not seen one of them invade anyone's privacy, squeal real names
or locations, pathologically libel someon everyday for years on end,
threaten anyone, promote cop killing, or say the Oklahoma bombing
didnt get ENOUGH cops.
And Tony, here's a truth for ya, ya ainagoona like. The more
information that the LP gets out and the more libertarians talk in
public, the more reasonble people leave the LP and the more lunatic
right-wing militia types come in. Much like the problem with the NRA.
I've watched it happen over and over and over and over again. The
central criteria is an adolescent hate of authority, a selfishness
beyond any ideology in human history and above all, THE GUNS.
And what KIND of people are attracted to that shit?
L O S E R S .
Rack Jite
Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
*It is NOT inappropriate, as that information has been public record
*for a VERY long time, something like 14 years in fact.
Suspected public record. But the goofy part is if you are right, then
you and Squealer Humphrey who have been posting that name more days
than not for over ten years, then yer claim that I am posting
anonymously is almost as fucked up as you are! :)
*And that of course leaves out his established pattern of pretending to
*be SEVERAL persons, AT ONCE, said aliases being used to deceive
*others. One of his previous aliases "outman" was used to threaten his
*other aliases, "proving" that pro-gun people were "violent".
Thats a lie, you are a liar. But whats new hey Snorts? :)
*What do you find less appropriate, using someone's real name, or
*harassing their employer? Dahlman has repeatedly done the latter to
*people who post from work accounts.
Yeah, after Squealer Humphrey kept coming by my home, posting the
information with his cute little time and date stamps, I complained to
his ISP concerning stalking. You have complained to more ISPs than I
ever thought about hey Snorts? It did Stop his squealing and stalking
for about 12 hours though! :)
*The plain fact is that Dahlman considers using his real name WORSE
*than calling for the annhilation of the Jews.
hehehe... What an idiot you are... :) Who do you think yer foolin?
Its just libel for the sake of libel...
*During his short presences in soc.culture.african.american.moderated,
*he spent the majority of his time ordering the Black participants
*around and tell us that we apparently owed him something.
Thats a lie, you are a liar. But whats new hey Snorts? :)
*He was
*eventually ejected from the group for an utter refusal to obey the
*rules of the moderators and for behavior such as threatening others.
Thats a lie, you are a liar. But whats new hey Snorts? :)
*Please bear in mind that some of us have known Dahlman for a VERY long
*time and know exactly what he's capable of.
Oh no! Saying things Gunloons dont like! Oughta be a law hey Snorts.
But not to worry, you will win over most looneytarians and right-wing
militia goofs who will accept whatever they like hearing from you.
So how many guns ya got now Snorts? What calipers, or mms or whatever?
You got yer weight in em yet? :)
Ya know, I've given this a lot of though. You are the most fucked up
guy I ever came across! :) There ain even any adjectives that do you
justice! :)
So bye now Snorty, I will ignor your daily squealing, lying and
libeling you do me everyday for what now, 11 years! Gosh...
Are you fucked up pal...
I bet yer a little wuss too.
Dick Lander
In article <6hedn4$cot$1...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>,
aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anthony Garcia) wrote:
(snip)
> Mr. Morton:
>
> 1.) If "Rack Jite" chooses to use a pseudonym on USENET, that's
> perfectly okay. It's inappropriate for you to attempt to "out" him by
> posting what you think is his real name and home city.
If he hides behind a pseudonym in order to threaten and harrass those who
don't agree with him--which he has done repeatedly--I find it perfectly
appropriate to deny him that shield and make him responsible for his
statements and actions, along with anyone else who indulges in such
behavior in a public forum.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Richard W. (Dick) Lander; sportsman,
Macintosh devotee, proponent
of personal liberty.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"The attempt to silence a man is the greatest honor you can bestow
on him. It means that you recognize his superiority to yourself."
--Joseph Sobran
Christopher Morton
>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
>cm...@nwohio.com (Christopher Morton) was saying...
>
>*It is NOT inappropriate, as that information has been public record
>*for a VERY long time, something like 14 years in fact.
>
>Suspected public record. But the goofy part is if you are right, then
Long known public record, DAVE.
>you and Squealer Humphrey who have been posting that name more days
>than not for over ten years, then yer claim that I am posting
>anonymously is almost as fucked up as you are! :)
I've never claimed you weren't a racist imbecile. Anyone with even a
particle of intelligence would have given up the pretense YEARS ago...
but not YOU.
>*And that of course leaves out his established pattern of pretending to
>*be SEVERAL persons, AT ONCE, said aliases being used to deceive
>*others. One of his previous aliases "outman" was used to threaten his
>*other aliases, "proving" that pro-gun people were "violent".
>
>Thats a lie, you are a liar. But whats new hey Snorts? :)
Not only is it NOT a lie, it was conclusively proven with evidence by
Keith Jackson... but then your pals in the National Alliance call the
Holocaust a "lie" too, don't they? I guess this is just a case of
skinhead see, skinhead do.
>*What do you find less appropriate, using someone's real name, or
>*harassing their employer? Dahlman has repeatedly done the latter to
>*people who post from work accounts.
>
>Yeah, after Squealer Humphrey kept coming by my home, posting the
>information with his cute little time and date stamps, I complained to
>his ISP concerning stalking. You have complained to more ISPs than I
>ever thought about hey Snorts? It did Stop his squealing and stalking
>for about 12 hours though! :)
What's the matter Dave, do you think Pat's Black? Do you live in a
"restricted" neighborhood? I thought you lived in Seabrook, not
Vidor.
I also find it interesting that you don't deny that Kennemur lost his
account because of email harassment of my postmaster.
>*The plain fact is that Dahlman considers using his real name WORSE
>*than calling for the annhilation of the Jews.
>
>hehehe... What an idiot you are... :) Who do you think yer foolin?
>Its just libel for the sake of libel...
As I said, the only logical conclusion is that you believe that
advocacy of genocide is one thing, but revealing your name is EVIL.
That accounts for your kissing up to the Nazis of the National
Alliance.
>*During his short presences in soc.culture.african.american.moderated,
>*he spent the majority of his time ordering the Black participants
>*around and tell us that we apparently owed him something.
>
>Thats a lie, you are a liar. But whats new hey Snorts? :)
I posted the messages not too long ago, Dave. Funny how you were
AFRAID to talk about them then, huh?
>*He was
>*eventually ejected from the group for an utter refusal to obey the
>*rules of the moderators and for behavior such as threatening others.
>
>Thats a lie, you are a liar. But whats new hey Snorts? :)
Then go back and post some more in scaa-mod, Dave. Go ahead.
>*Please bear in mind that some of us have known Dahlman for a VERY long
>*time and know exactly what he's capable of.
>
>Oh no! Saying things Gunloons dont like! Oughta be a law hey Snorts.
>But not to worry, you will win over most looneytarians and right-wing
>militia goofs who will accept whatever they like hearing from you.
You've already won over the National Alliance. That's something I'll
leave to you.
>So how many guns ya got now Snorts? What calipers, or mms or whatever?
>You got yer weight in em yet? :)
I have enough to protect myself from you and your National Alliance
pals. Even have a few spares to loan out to Jewish friends menaced by
your "friends".
>Ya know, I've given this a lot of though. You are the most fucked up
>guy I ever came across! :) There ain even any adjectives that do you
>justice! :)
Of course you think that way.
I DON'T call for genocide against the Jews.
I DON'T deny the Holocaust.
And I DO tell everyone that you're David Dahlman of Seabrook, Texas.
In your little "Aryan" mind, that's a worse crime than Babi Yar.
>So bye now Snorty, I will ignor your daily squealing, lying and
>libeling you do me everyday for what now, 11 years! Gosh...
>Are you fucked up pal...
Sure you will Dave.
I'll bet you DON'T.... : )
>I bet yer a little wuss too.
Why don't you just be done with it and call me a "nigger" the way
Kennemur and your pals in the National Alliance do... although they do
occasionally go with "big Black buck".
You're a beaten, bitter "man" Dave, and it shows. Every time you
post, you reveal yourself as a tiny minded racist and hanger-on of
neo-Nazis, whose so narcissistic that he considers TAUNTS against
himself, worse than calls for GENOCIDE.
Keep posting Dave. I want everyone to know EXACTLY where you and
Larry Jansen are coming from.
Christopher Morton
>And as far as Morton goes, the statement of mine he is chopping, which
>I proudly make often, is "the net behavior of the members of the
>National Alliance I have seen post here are more ethical, honest and
>polite than Chris Morton." And that is as true as it gets! Let me tell
>you!
Gee Dave, I've never called for the extermination of the Jews.
Neither have I denied the Holocaust. Nor have I email spammed
hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people with racist
propaganda. Never mind my NOT littering the Cleveland area with paper
fliers promoting White supremacism. These are all things which the
National Alliance REGULARLY does, which I have NOT done.
What *I* have done is to use your real name, Dave and tell people what
your aliases have been in the past.
The ONLY logical conclusion is that you do not object to the things
which the National Alliance does, since you NEVER complain about them,
and that you find using your real name WORSE.
Here's Dahlman's schtick:
To David Dahlman of Seabrook, Texas, it's one thing to call for the
extermination of every Jew living today and to deny the Holocaust; but
to use his real name, that's EVIL.
*John_Johnson*
In <353d7f2d....@enews.newsguy.com> cm...@nwohio.com
(Christopher Morton) writes:
> On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 05:53:49 GMT, rack...@worldnet.att.net (David
> Dahlman of Seabrook, Texas) wrote:
>
>> Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
>> cm...@nwohio.com (Christopher Morton) was saying...
>>
>>* It is NOT inappropriate, as that information has been public record
>>* for a VERY long time, something like 14 years in fact.
>>
>> Suspected public record. But the goofy part is if you are right,
>> then
>
> Long known public record, DAVE.
>
>> you and Squealer Humphrey who have been posting that name more days
>> than not for over ten years, then yer claim that I am posting
>> anonymously is almost as fucked up as you are! :)
>
> I've never claimed you weren't a racist imbecile. Anyone with even
> a particle of intelligence would have given up the pretense YEARS
> ago...but not YOU.
>
>>* And that of course leaves out his established pattern of pretending
>>* to be SEVERAL persons, AT ONCE, said aliases being used to deceive
>>* others. One of his previous aliases "outman" was used to threaten
>>* his other aliases, "proving" that pro-gun people were "violent".
>>
>> Thats a lie, you are a liar. But whats new hey Snorts? :)
>
> Not only is it NOT a lie, it was conclusively proven with evidence by
> Keith Jackson... but then your pals in the National Alliance call the
> Holocaust a "lie" too, don't they? I guess this is just a case of
> skinhead see, skinhead do.
>
>>* What do you find less appropriate, using someone's real name, or
>>* harassing their employer? Dahlman has repeatedly done the latter
>>* to people who post from work accounts.
>>
>> Yeah, after Squealer Humphrey kept coming by my home, posting the
>> information with his cute little time and date stamps, I complained
>> to his ISP concerning stalking. You have complained to more ISPs
>> than I ever thought about hey Snorts? It did Stop his squealing
>> and stalking for about 12 hours though! :)
>
> What's the matter Dave, do you think Pat's Black? Do you live in a
> "restricted" neighborhood? I thought you lived in Seabrook, not
> Vidor.
He does: just blocks off Clear Lake:
<http://maps.yahoo.com/yahoo/yt.hm?CMD=MAP&FAM=yahoo&SEC=geo&MA=1&GC=X:
95.04685|Y:29.56727|LT:29.56726|LN:-95.04685|LS:10000|c:Seabrook|s:TX|z
77586|d:618|p:USA&IC=29.56727:-95.04685:5:&GAD2=315+Biscayne+Blvd&GAD3=
eabrook%2c+TX++77586-6109&H=250&W=400&LV=3>
And not too far from one of my most favorite restaurants -- Tookie's:
<http://maps.yahoo.com/yahoo/yt.hm?CMD=FILL&FAM=yahoo&client=yahoo&SEC=
AVMAP&GC=X:-95.0316|Y:29.5758|LT:29.5758|LN:-95.0316|LS:20000&IC=0:0:2:
ookie's+Restaurant:29.5756:-95.0276:555:Seabrook%2c+TX++77586-3406&ADR=
ookie's+Restaurant,+1202+Layport+Blvd,+Seabrook,+TX+77586-0980(281-474-
444)&uLS=X:-95.0276|Y:29.5756|LT:29.5756|LN:-95.0276|LS:20000|c:Seabroo
|s:TX|z:77586|d:618|p:USA|GCT:5|ST:1|NR:8|FS:Tookies_Restaurant|FT:4|DB
4|DBC:YAHOO:HOT:MOL:URL&GAD2=&GAD3=Seabrook%2c+TX++77586-3406&GEOMC=3>
I've wondered aloud as to whether or not Dahlman was on one of those
KKK `fishing boats' in Kemah Bay during the infamous `parade' leading
up to the `Vietnamese Fishermen's Association v. the Knights of the
Ku Klux Klan' decision in federal court.
> I also find it interesting that you don't deny that Kennemur lost his
> account because of email harassment of my postmaster.
>
>>* The plain fact is that Dahlman considers using his real name WORSE
>>* than calling for the annhilation of the Jews.
>>
>> hehehe... What an idiot you are... :) Who do you think yer foolin?
>> Its just libel for the sake of libel...
>
> As I said, the only logical conclusion is that you believe that
> advocacy of genocide is one thing, but revealing your name is EVIL.
> That accounts for your kissing up to the Nazis of the National
> Alliance.
>
>>* During his short presences in
>>* soc.culture.african.american.moderated,
>>* he spent the majority of his time ordering the Black
>>* participants around and tell us that we apparently owed
>>* him something.
>>
>> Thats a lie, you are a liar. But whats new hey Snorts? :)
>
> I posted the messages not too long ago, Dave. Funny how you were
> AFRAID to talk about them then, huh?
>
>>* He was eventually ejected from the group for an utter refusal
>>* to obey the rules of the moderators and for behavior such as
>>* threatening others.
>>
>> Thats a lie, you are a liar. But whats new hey Snorts? :)
>
> Then go back and post some more in scaa-mod, Dave. Go ahead.
>
>>* Please bear in mind that some of us have known Dahlman for a
>>* VERY long time and know exactly what he's capable of.
>>
>> Oh no! Saying things Gunloons dont like! Oughta be a law hey Snorts.
>> But not to worry, you will win over most looneytarians and right-
>> wing militia goofs who will accept whatever they like hearing from
> ---
>
> BATF: the Aryan Nations with an NEA grant.
--
John_Johnson
TXJo...@ix.netcom.com
© 1998 All rights reserved
Christopher Morton
On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 22:15:44 +0200 (MET DST), nob...@REPLAY.COM (Shawn
Smith) wrote:
>You're a shit-eating motherfucker.
What would it take for you and Dahlman to call him "polite and honest"
the way you describe the neo-Nazis of the National Alliance?
Would he have to desecrate a Jewish cemetary?
Patrick L. Humphrey
In article <1998042120...@basement.replay.com> nob...@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) writes:
>In article <6him3b$l...@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>
>*John_Johnson* <TXJo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> In <353d7f2d....@enews.newsguy.com> cm...@nwohio.com
>> (Christopher Morton) writes:
>>> On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 05:53:49 GMT, rack...@worldnet.att.net
>>> ([name and address]) wrote:
>>>> Yeah, after Squealer Humphrey kept coming by my home, posting the
>>>> information with his cute little time and date stamps, I complained
>>>> to his ISP concerning stalking. You have complained to more ISPs
>>>> than I ever thought about hey Snorts? It did Stop his squealing
>>>> and stalking for about 12 hours though! :)
>Patty still tries to stalk from Rice. They are monitoring him
>closely again.
Yeah, Shawn, just like the cops were waiting for me in Austin this
weekend...right?
>>> What's the matter [name], do you think Pat's Black? Do you live in a
>>> "restricted" neighborhood? I thought you lived in [town], not
>>> Vidor.
>> He does: just blocks off [location]:
>><http://maps.yahoo.com/yahoo/yt.hm?[detailed map to a guy's front door]
>Patty gotta use another name to put up the full details now. He
>is afraid he will get fired if he uses his real name to give
>complete directions to the front door of the guy with Jewish kids.
Well, isn't that cute -- only one trouble, S. Shawn: I don't post under
anyone else's name. If I post anything in a Usenet newsgroup, it will have my
name on it, because (unlike you, or Dahlman, or Kennemur) I believe in what
I'm saying enough to put my name behind it. Since when have any of you
cowards EVER done even that much? (Dave _did_, at one time -- and for
fourteen years, he's been trying to get back at me because I committed the
mortal sin of remembering his name. That's what happens when you live life
without benefit of gonads _or_ a backbone, like him.)
>If this isn't Patty the guy probably got the details from Patty in
>e-mail. That is the only reason Patty puts up this liberal's supposed
>real name. The same for his fellow Jew hater, Chris "Snorts" Morton.
Sure, S. Shawn. There's only one problem with that wet dream of yours:
whoever "John Johnson" is, I've never had any contact with him in e-mail.
Could it be that he's smart enough to figure it out all by himself?
>> I've wondered aloud as to whether or not [name] was on one of those
>> KKK `fishing boats' in Kemah Bay during the infamous `parade' leading
>> up to the `Vietnamese Fishermen's Association v. the Knights of the
>> Ku Klux Klan' decision in federal court.
>You are the KKK type, putting directions to the front door for a
>guy with Jewish kids.
Keep on parading your delusions for us, S. Shawn. The men in the white coats
will be along soon enough to take you back to Rusk, where you can get the
treatment you so badly need.
>You're a shit-eating motherfucker.
If you want to see the definition of _that_ appellation, I suggest you find a
mirror, S. Shawn. You've done far more to earn it for yourself than anyone
else could ever hope to do for you.
--PLH, who, as it turned out, wasn't one of the _five_ thousand who came to
Austin Sunday afternoon
*John_Johnson*
In <1998042120...@basement.replay.com> nob...@REPLAY.COM
(Anonymous) writes:
Don't ya just *love* these `guys' and their `Macho' attitude
when hiding behind anonymous remailers? <g> :-)
"Paranoia strikes deep: into your heart it will creep..."
> In article <6him3b$l...@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>
> *John_Johnson* <TXJo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> In <353d7f2d....@enews.newsguy.com> cm...@nwohio.com
>> (Christopher Morton) writes:
>
>>> On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 05:53:49 GMT, rack...@worldnet.att.net
>>> ([name and address]) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, after Squealer Humphrey kept coming by my home, posting
>>>> the> information with his cute little time and date stamps, I
>>>> complained to his ISP concerning stalking. You have complained
>>>> to more ISPs than I ever thought about hey Snorts? It did Stop
>>>> his squealing and stalking for about 12 hours though! :)
>
> Patty still tries to stalk from Rice. They are monitoring him
> closely again.
>
>>> What's the matter [name], do you think Pat's Black? Do you live
>>> in a "restricted" neighborhood? I thought you lived in [town],
>>> not Vidor.
I don't know *why* you're trying to hide David Fuller Dahlman
from the world of UseNet: *everyone* who has been here for any
length of time knows who and where he is.
>> He does: just blocks off [location]:
>>
>> <http://maps.yahoo.com/yahoo/yt.hm?[detailed map to a guy's
>> front door]
>
> Patty gotta use another name to put up the full details now. He
> is afraid he will get fired if he uses his real name to give
> complete directions to the front door of the guy with Jewish kids.
>
> If this isn't Patty the guy probably got the details from Patty
> in e-mail.
Nope: it came directly from the Texas Public Records database
at PublicData.Com on the Web; and it's available to any Texan with
a Driver License number (so PD.C can verify they really are `Texans').
My `Public Data' is recorded there, too: you just have to
figure out *which* on the *HUNDREDS* of John Johnson's I am. <g>
BTW: I don't even know anyone named `Patty Hunphrey' (or even
a *Patrick* Humphrey).
> That is the only reason Patty puts up this liberal's supposed
> real name. The same for his fellow Jew hater, Chris "Snorts" Morton.
Interesting: calling a Black Jew a "Jew hater."
>> I've wondered aloud as to whether or not [name] was on one of
>> those KKK `fishing boats' in Kemah Bay during the infamous `parade'
>> leading up to the `Vietnamese Fishermen's Association v. the Knights
>> of the Ku Klux Klan' decision in federal court.
>
> You are the KKK type, putting directions to the front door for a
> guy with Jewish kids.
Dahlman has `Jewish kids'? Never even knew it (and kinda doubt it;
and it's irrelevent anyway).
> You're a shit-eating motherfucker.
Typical Anti-Gun/Anti-RKBA/Anti-NRA/Anti-American ad hominem
attack: completely expected from someone known as `Anonymous'
(or `Albie Is A Sham'; or `CWP'; or 'Voltai29', or.........).
> Spartacus
You couldn't even carry Spartcus's robes!
--John Johnson
"The fights I fought... cost a lot --the fight for the
assault-weapons ban cost 20 members their seats in Congress.
The NRA is the reason the Republicans control the House."
--President Bill Clinton, Cleveland Plain-Dealer,
January 14, 1995
We are now supporting the President's Bill
which provides stringent restrictions on rifles
and shotguns. We shall also get behind the Bill
which provides for national registration and
licensing if the states do not act within six
months and a year respectively.
I personally believe handguns should be
outlawed and provided the substance for such a
bill to Senator Percy and Congressman Conyers
about a week ago. Our organization will
probably officially take this stand in time but we
are not anxious to rouse opposition before we
get the other legislation passed.
--Letter from J. Elliott Corbett, Secretary, National
Council for a Responsible Firearms Policy..
June 17, 1968
"The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment
by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding."
--Mr. Justice Brandeis, United States Supreme Court
volt...@geocities.com
On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 02:17:09 -0500, lan...@inil.com (Dick Lander)
wrote:
>In article <6hedn4$cot$1...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>,
>aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anthony Garcia) wrote:
>
>(snip)
>
>> Mr. Morton:
>>
>> 1.) If "Rack Jite" chooses to use a pseudonym on USENET, that's
>> perfectly okay. It's inappropriate for you to attempt to "out" him by
>> posting what you think is his real name and home city.
>
>If he hides behind a pseudonym in order to threaten and harrass those who
>don't agree with him--which he has done repeatedly--I find it perfectly
>appropriate to deny him that shield and make him responsible for his
>statements and actions, along with anyone else who indulges in such
>behavior in a public forum.
What has Rack threatened to do to you Lick?
Perhaps he has threatened to expose your extreme stupidity for all to
see?
In that case you are harassing yourself every time you post.
Tell us again why you support the actions of those who post the
identity and home locations of liberals on the net?
Dick Lander
In article <6hje34$6...@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com>,
TXJo...@ix.netcom.com(*John_Johnson*) wrote:
> In <1998042120...@basement.replay.com> nob...@REPLAY.COM
> (Anonymous) writes:
>
> Don't ya just *love* these `guys' and their `Macho' attitude
> when hiding behind anonymous remailers? <g> :-)
> "Paranoia strikes deep: into your heart it will creep..."
Shawn's got a problem: he's such an English Village Idiot that he gives
himself away through his lousy writing no matter what alias(es) he uses. He
also tends to repost a lot, so those who've been here for a while often get
a strange sense of deja vu when reading his stuff.
> > In article <6him3b$l...@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>
> > *John_Johnson* <TXJo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In <353d7f2d....@enews.newsguy.com> cm...@nwohio.com
> >> (Christopher Morton) writes:
> >
> >>> On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 05:53:49 GMT, rack...@worldnet.att.net
> >>> ([name and address]) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Yeah, after Squealer Humphrey kept coming by my home, posting
> >>>> the> information with his cute little time and date stamps, I
> >>>> complained to his ISP concerning stalking. You have complained
> >>>> to more ISPs than I ever thought about hey Snorts? It did Stop
> >>>> his squealing and stalking for about 12 hours though! :)
> >
> > Patty still tries to stalk from Rice. They are monitoring him
> > closely again.
A total fabrication by Shawn Emma Sabra gdy Edmonds English Village Idiot
Smith Anonymous.
(snip)
> > That is the only reason Patty puts up this liberal's supposed
> > real name. The same for his fellow Jew hater, Chris "Snorts" Morton.
>
> Interesting: calling a Black Jew a "Jew hater."
As interesting as saying a Black man is a White supremacist. Shawn says
that quite often too.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Richard W. (Dick) Lander; sportsman,
Macintosh devotee, proponent
of personal liberty.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"...No clause in the Constitution could by any rule
of construction be conceived to give the Congress a
power to disarm the people. Such a flagitious attempt
could only be made, under some general pretence, by a
state legislature. But if in any blind pursuit of in-
ordinate power either should attempt it, [the second]
amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both."
--William Rawle, "View of the Constitution," 1825
Tim Brown
bath...@iglou1.iglou.com (Tim Brown) writes:
>Last spring, Mr. Humphrey went on vacation in Cincinnati for the express
>purpose of finding out where my house is. More recently, in
>misc.transport.road, he practically told the whole group right where my
>house is.
> A true 'Net stalker!
> I wonder if he had anything to do with that guy who showed up at my
>house in December and beat me with a magazine stand. If there's a picture
>of Humphrey Dumphrey, I'll look at it and see if it was him.
Looks like it's him. Just erase the beard, and we've got our suspect.
--
bath...@iglou.com http://members.iglou.com/bathroom Tantrum 95.7 FM
Read THE LAST WORD before the Kenton County Public LIEbrary censors it!
Support true Internet free speech -- Stop the Cabal and 'Net Nazis!
*** Gatewood Galbraith for Governor 1999 ***
volt...@geocities.com
On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 01:21:15 -0500, lan...@inil.com (Dick Lander)
wrote:
>In article <6hje34$6...@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com>,
>TXJo...@ix.netcom.com(*John_Johnson*) wrote:
>
>> In <1998042120...@basement.replay.com> nob...@REPLAY.COM
>> (Anonymous) writes:
>>
>> Don't ya just *love* these `guys' and their `Macho' attitude
>> when hiding behind anonymous remailers? <g> :-)
>> "Paranoia strikes deep: into your heart it will creep..."
>
>Shawn's got a problem: he's such an English Village Idiot that he gives
>himself away through his lousy writing no matter what alias(es) he uses. He
>also tends to repost a lot, so those who've been here for a while often get
>a strange sense of deja vu when reading his stuff.
>
>> > In article <6him3b$l...@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>
>> > *John_Johnson* <TXJo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> In <353d7f2d....@enews.newsguy.com> cm...@nwohio.com
>> >> (Christopher Morton) writes:
>> >
>> >>> On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 05:53:49 GMT, rack...@worldnet.att.net
>> >>> ([name and address]) wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Yeah, after Squealer Humphrey kept coming by my home, posting
>> >>>> the> information with his cute little time and date stamps, I
>> >>>> complained to his ISP concerning stalking. You have complained
>> >>>> to more ISPs than I ever thought about hey Snorts? It did Stop
>> >>>> his squealing and stalking for about 12 hours though! :)
>> >
>> > Patty still tries to stalk from Rice. They are monitoring him
>> > closely again.
>
>A total fabrication by Shawn Emma Sabra gdy Edmonds English Village Idiot
>Smith Anonymous.
>
>(snip)
>
>> > That is the only reason Patty puts up this liberal's supposed
>> > real name. The same for his fellow Jew hater, Chris "Snorts" Morton.
>>
>> Interesting: calling a Black Jew a "Jew hater."
>
>As interesting as saying a Black man is a White supremacist. Shawn says
>that quite often too.
>
>* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>Richard W. (Dick) Lander; sportsman,
>Macintosh devotee, proponent
>of personal liberty.
>* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>
>"...No clause in the Constitution could by any rule
>of construction be conceived to give the Congress a
>power to disarm the people. Such a flagitious attempt
>could only be made, under some general pretence, by a
>state legislature. But if in any blind pursuit of in-
>ordinate power either should attempt it, [the second]
>amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both."
>
> --William Rawle, "View of the Constitution," 1825
Ecrasons l'infame
volt...@geocities.com
>In article <6hje34$6...@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com>,
>TXJo...@ix.netcom.com(*John_Johnson*) wrote:
>
>> In <1998042120...@basement.replay.com> nob...@REPLAY.COM
>> (Anonymous) writes:
>>
>> Don't ya just *love* these `guys' and their `Macho' attitude
>> when hiding behind anonymous remailers? <g> :-)
>> "Paranoia strikes deep: into your heart it will creep..."
>
>Shawn's got a problem: he's such an English Village Idiot that he gives
>himself away through his lousy writing no matter what alias(es) he uses. He
>also tends to repost a lot, so those who've been here for a while often get
>a strange sense of deja vu when reading his stuff.
Ask Offier Obie what happens when you post the Drivers Licence number
of a liberal on these groups.
You right wing scumbags (used with permission of Rep. Burton) need to
face your own bullshit.
Take a deep breath.
>"...No clause in the Constitution could by any rule
>of construction be conceived to give the Congress a
>power to disarm the people. Such a flagitious attempt
>could only be made, under some general pretence, by a
>state legislature. But if in any blind pursuit of in-
>ordinate power either should attempt it, [the second]
>amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both."
>
> --William Rawle, "View of the Constitution," 1825
"In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession
or use of a (sawed-off shotgun) at this time has some reasonable
relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated
militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the
right to keep and bear such an instrument."
-- US v. Miller, 1939
"It is clear that the Second Amendment guarantees a
collective rather than an idividual right... [it is' an
erroneous supposition that the Second Amendment is concerned
with the rights of individuals rather than those of the
states."
-- US. vs. Warin, US Court of Appeals, Sixth Circuit, 1976
"The right to keep and bear handguns is not guaranteed by
the Second Amendment."
-- Quilici v. Village of Morton Grove, 695 F.2d 261
(7th Cir.1982) cert. denied, 464 US 863 (1983)
Notice the dates on these decisions?
Jim
Dick Lander
In article <1998042219...@basement.replay.com>, nob...@REPLAY.COM
(Anonymous) wrote:
> In article <6hjmo5$o...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>
> <volt...@geocities.com> wrote:
> >On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 02:17:09 -0500, lan...@inil.com (Dick Lander)
> >wrote:
> >
> >>In article <6hedn4$cot$1...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>,
> >>aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anthony Garcia) wrote:
> >>
> >>(snip)
> >>
> >>> Mr. Morton:
> >>>
> >>> 1.) If "Rack Jite" chooses to use a pseudonym on USENET, that's
> >>> perfectly okay. It's inappropriate for you to attempt to "out" him by
> >>> posting what you think is his real name and home city.
> >>
> >>If he hides behind a pseudonym in order to threaten and harrass those who
> >>don't agree with him--which he has done repeatedly--I find it perfectly
> >>appropriate to deny him that shield and make him responsible for his
> >>statements and actions, along with anyone else who indulges in such
> >>behavior in a public forum.
> >
> >What has Rack threatened to do to you Dick?
> >
> >Perhaps he has threatened to expose your extreme stupidity for all to
> >see?
> >
> >In that case you are harassing yourself every time you post.
> >
> >Tell us again why you support the actions of those who post the
> >identity and home locations of liberals on the net?
Jeez, is the KenneMORON *still* responding to my articles? What a dumbshit.
Hope he likes talking to himself. :-D
> There is only one reason : Give every Jew-hating right-wing bigot with
> a gun (so many on usenet) the full directions to the front door of any
> liberal, especially those with Jewish families.
These paranoid hallucinations of yours rae really getting out of hand, Shawnie.
> Lick and Snorts cheered Patty when he used the John_Johnson account
> to put up a direct map to the front door.
Really, Shawnie? Perhaps you'd like to repost the article where I said
that? (No, I don't mean FORGE it, like you usually do.) You can't, because
I never said any such thing, you lying sack of shit.
> They have no other possible reason to need to know a guy's name.
> "We want to sue" they say. Bullshit. You can get the guy's name
> from the ISP.
Oh, did Dahlman tell you that, since he contacts so many of his opponent's
ISPs to try to intimidate them?
> Goddamned shit-eating motherfuckers.
How profound, Shawnie! ROFL!!
(snip)
> >========================================================================
> >From the Liberal Dictionary:
> >
> >Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.
Yeah, we hear this bull from liberals constantly.
--
Richard W. (Dick) Lander; sportsman,
Macintosh devotee, proponent of personal liberty
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Another day...another chance something
will be found hazardous to my health...
Dick Lander
> In article <6hj90p$30r$1...@starbase.neosoft.com>
> Anthony Garcia <aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> wrote:
> >In article <landerr-ya0240800...@news.inil.com>,
> >Lick Dander <lan...@inil.com> wrote:
> >> In article <6hedn4$cot$1...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>,
> >> aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anthony Garcia) wrote:
> >> > Mr. Morton:
> >> >
> >> > 1.) If "Rack Jite" chooses to use a pseudonym on USENET, that's
> >> > perfectly okay. It's inappropriate for you to attempt to "out" him by
> >> > posting what you think is his real name and home city.
> >>
> >> If he hides behind a pseudonym in order to threaten and harrass those who
> >> don't agree with him--which he has done repeatedly--I find it perfectly
> >> appropriate to deny him that shield and make him responsible for his
> >> statements and actions, along with anyone else who indulges in such
> >> behavior in a public forum.
> >
> >Mr. Jite has obviously gone to lengths to conceal his true identity
> >for fear that people who dislike his remarks might attempt to
> >physically harm him or his family. He claims that his flame-war
> >opponents in the past have stalked him and made threatening phone
> >calls. In such circumstances, I consider use of a pseudonym to be
> >perfectly appropriate and advisable.
It might be--if it had ever happened. It didn't.
> >How does republishing his alleged real name and address make him more
> >"responsible" for his statements?
> It lets shithead assholes like John Johnson put up FULL MAPS
> to his front door so every Jew-hating right-wing bigot with a gun
> knows how to find the liberal's house where he lives with his Jewish
> family.
Shawn, just because you're too dumb to realize that such resources are
available doesn't make this some kind of "new" threat. I know the addresses
of several anti-gun participants in this NG--some who are *very* close to
you, Shawnie, heh heh. It's just like a gun--possession in and of itself is
not harmful--it's what one decides to do with it.
> THAT IS THE ONLY REASON THEY WANT TO KNOW HIS NAME.
No, it's so people can't make outrageous, unsubstantiated claims and
personal attacks while hiding behind a pseudonym. They're not scared of
anyone, they just don't want to be held responsible for what they say. It's
much easier for them that way.
> >Mr. Jite often makes rather unfair and "smeary" remarks against
> >conservatives, libertarians, and RKBA supporters. Often? Hell, it
> >appears to be a full-time hobby for him. But has he ever said
> >anything that would constitute actual, actionable libel? Quotes or
> >pointers, please. I haven't seen any, but then again, I haven't been
> >witness to all of his apparently long career in BBS and USENET
> >flame-warring.
There are lots of people here who have likely committed libel, if anyone
actually tried to pursue it.
> >And in any case, even if he has committed libel, does that mean that
> >he should have to fear for his life? Hell, no. The worst he should
> >have to fear is a lawsuit.
He doesn't *really* fear for his life. Even he's not that big of a paranoid
wimp.
> Day in and day out Chris "Snorts" Morton (ourhero@) calls liberals,
> blacks, and Jewish posters Nazi racist klansmen. If anyone is guilty
> of libel it is him.
>
> But they don't want to file a lawsuit. They want to make it easy
> for any Jew-hating right-wing bigot with a gun to go kill Jewish
> kids of a liberal who talks back to them.
Here Shawn emulates the Brothers Grimm.
> >You allege that Mr. Jite has threatened and harrassed his opponents.
> >I would like to see evidence to support this allegation. What exact
> >kinds of threats and harrassment occurred, and why? Were they
> >unprovoked, or could they be construed as an attempt to respond to
> >another party's unjust threats or harrassment?
>
> There is no evidence. Ask Snorts and he just repeats the same
> bullshit about a liberal being a National Alliance member. Or
> he says "It's on Deja News" but it isn't.
Yes, actually it is, or was. Rack is fond of trying to get his opponents in
trouble with their employers for posting from work. Sometimes they're quite
aware of it; other times not. He threatened me because I *reposted* his
real name in a followup from someone else's article--didn't snip it. But
after one reply in which I pointed out the total foolishness of what he was
saying, he slinked away.
> I don't see any liberals putting up FULL MAPS to folks' houses to
> make them "accountable." That's the right-wing gun-smoochers.
It's just so you idiots who don't know how to access data on the Web can be
better informed. They didn't create the site, they just pointed it out.
> >-Anthony Garcia
> >aga...@neosoft.com
>
>
> Note that these few quotes below are only about .01% of the totality
> of the crap this Squealing little stalker has been so proudly posting
> for what he readily admits is more days than not for FOURTEEN YEARS.
>
> This issue of privacy is the central issue of the net. All he has to
> do is stop and I will never address, mention or think about him ever
> again. But sadly, he is obsessed to such a degree, it is impossible
> for him. Which is the very definition of a stalker.
Flunked out of law school too, Shawnie?!
> A few direct quotes from the Houston Libertarian, Squealer, Stalker
> and Abject Loser Patrick Humphrey confirming his threats and stalking:
(Shawn's paranoid rantings snipped)
Patrick L. Humphrey
bath...@iglou1.iglou.com (Tim Brown) writes:
>Last spring, Mr. Humphrey went on vacation in Cincinnati for the express
>purpose of finding out where my house is. More recently, in
>misc.transport.road, he practically told the whole group right where my
>house is.
Bullshit, Tim. I have witnesses...and they will testify that your wet dream
had nothing to do with my purpose for being in Cincinnati, if it comes to
that. Do you deny that you live in Highland Heights? You brought that up
YOURSELF, schmuck! Remember, _you_ were the one who started this dust-up by
claiming your little suburb had seceded from the rest of the country and was
now known as "New America". Would you like that to be paraded before a court?
> A true 'Net stalker!
Boy, that stings, coming from a true loon.
> I wonder if he had anything to do with that guy who showed up at my
>house in December and beat me with a magazine stand. If there's a picture
>of Humphrey Dumphrey, I'll look at it and see if it was him.
Only one small trouble, Tim...I didn't go out of state in December at any
time. What specific date was it? I can account for myself during that time.
Can you?
--PLH, I have witnesses, Tim doesn't
Patrick L. Humphrey
bath...@iglou1.iglou.com (Tim Brown) writes:
>bath...@iglou1.iglou.com (Tim Brown) writes:
>>Last spring, Mr. Humphrey went on vacation in Cincinnati for the express
>>purpose of finding out where my house is. More recently, in
>>misc.transport.road, he practically told the whole group right where my
>>house is.
>> A true 'Net stalker!
>> I wonder if he had anything to do with that guy who showed up at my
>>house in December and beat me with a magazine stand. If there's a picture
>>of Humphrey Dumphrey, I'll look at it and see if it was him.
>Looks like it's him. Just erase the beard, and we've got our suspect.
Looks like you're in for more than you expected, then -- because I have quite
a few people who can testify that I was nowhere near wherever your house is at
any time in December.
If you're going to attempt to libel me, I guess you'll have no problem with
being responsible for your actions, will you?
--PLH, who has been in Cincinnati four times in the past 40 years...and not
only doesn't know where Tim lives, doesn't _want_ to know
Christopher Morton
On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:50:14 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>Ask Offier Obie what happens when you post the Drivers Licence number
>of a liberal on these groups.
Ask YOURSELF what happens when YOU try to harass a Black man and his
postmaster in email.
Christopher Morton
On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:27:27 +0200 (MET DST), nob...@REPLAY.COM (Shawn
Smith of Austin, Texas) wrote:
>In article <6hje34$6...@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com>
>*John_Johnson* <TXJo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> In <1998042120...@basement.replay.com> nob...@REPLAY.COM
>> (Anonymous) writes:
>>
>> Don't ya just *love* these `guys' and their `Macho' attitude
>> when hiding behind anonymous remailers? <g> :-)
>> "Paranoia strikes deep: into your heart it will creep..."
>
>If I didn't you would post a map to my front door so every
>Jew-hating right-wing racist with a gun knew where to get me.
Speaking of Jew-hating SHAWN, do you agree with David Dahlman of
Seabrook, Texas that the neo-Nazis of the National Alliance are
"polite and honest"?
Lou Minatti™
Say, aren't you the very same Tim Brown who was overwhelmingly voted
Usenet Kook of the Month?
Tim Brown wrote:
>
> Last spring, Mr. Humphrey went on vacation in Cincinnati for the express
> purpose of finding out where my house is. More recently, in
> misc.transport.road, he practically told the whole group right where my
> house is.
> A true 'Net stalker!
> I wonder if he had anything to do with that guy who showed up at my
> house in December and beat me with a magazine stand. If there's a picture
> of Humphrey Dumphrey, I'll look at it and see if it was him.
> --
> bath...@iglou.com http://members.iglou.com/bathroom Tantrum 95.7 FM
> Read THE LAST WORD before the Kenton County Public LIEbrary censors it!
> Support true Internet free speech -- Stop the Cabal and 'Net Nazis!
> *** Gatewood Galbraith for Governor 1999 ***
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Patrick L. Humphrey
nob...@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) writes:
>In article <szkn2de...@dillinger.io.com>
>Patrick L. Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>In article <1998042120...@basement.replay.com> nob...@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) writes:
>>>In article <6him3b$l...@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>
>>>*John_Johnson* <TXJo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>> In <353d7f2d....@enews.newsguy.com> cm...@nwohio.com
>>>> (Christopher Morton) writes:
>>>>> On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 05:53:49 GMT, rack...@worldnet.att.net
>>>>> ([name and address]) wrote:
>>>>>> Yeah, after Squealer Humphrey kept coming by my home, posting the
>>>>>> information with his cute little time and date stamps, I complained
>>>>>> to his ISP concerning stalking. You have complained to more ISPs
>>>>>> than I ever thought about hey Snorts? It did Stop his squealing
>>>>>> and stalking for about 12 hours though! :)
>>>Patty still tries to stalk from Rice. They are monitoring him
>>>closely again.
>>Yeah, Shawn, just like the cops were waiting for me in Austin this
>>weekend...right?
>Bet you chickened out and didn't make the drug buy.
What about all those cops who saw me between here and Austin this weekend --
and didn't do a thing? You'd think they'd communicate.
>>>>> What's the matter [name], do you think Pat's Black? Do you live in a
>>>>> "restricted" neighborhood? I thought you lived in [town], not
>>>>> Vidor.
>>>> He does: just blocks off [location]:
>>>><http://maps.yahoo.com/yahoo/yt.hm?[detailed map to a guy's front door]
>>>Patty gotta use another name to put up the full details now. He
>>>is afraid he will get fired if he uses his real name to give
>>>complete directions to the front door of the guy with Jewish kids.
>>Well, isn't that cute -- only one trouble, Shawn: I don't post under
>>anyone else's name. If I post anything in a Usenet newsgroup, it will have my
>>name on it, because (unlike you, or Dahlman, or Kennemur) I believe in what
>>I'm saying enough to put my name behind it. Since when have any of you
>>cowards EVER done even that much? (Dave _did_, at one time -- and for
>>fourteen years, he's been trying to get back at me because I committed the
>>mortal sin of remembering his name. That's what happens when you live life
>>without benefit of gonads _or_ a backbone, like him.)
>If the guy used his real name fourteen years ago and told you a thousand
>times not to use it and you still do, that makes you the biggest fucking
>asshole around. What is the result of you putting up his name?
Not much -- his kids grew up, and he never went to the police about the
alleged threats he was getting from anyone. Looks like no one much cared
about Dave's mental problems, did they?
>Fuckers like John Johnson putting up a full map to get to his front door.
Then take it up with John, Stupid Shawn.
>AND YOU KNOW THAT IS THE ONLY REASON YOU PUT UP HIS NAME. YOU WANT
>EVERY JEW-HATING RIGHT-WING BIGOT WITH A GUN TO KNOW WHERE HE LIVES
>AND WHERE TO FIND HIS JEWISH KIDS.
That's what YOU want people to believe, Anonymous Alcoholic. You can't
substantiate that assertion, though, and you know it, so you take the easy way
out and call me names as much as possible. Not surprisingly, you're about as
credible as Milli Vanilli, these days.
>You fucking asshole!
Here's thirty-five cents. Go call someone who gives a damn what you think.
(Don't dial my number, though. You _don't_ want to go there. Trust me.)
>>>If this isn't Patty the guy probably got the details from Patty in
>>>e-mail. That is the only reason Patty puts up this liberal's supposed
>>>real name. The same for his fellow Jew hater, Chris "Snorts" Morton.
>>Sure, Shawn. There's only one problem with that wet dream of yours:
>>whoever "John Johnson" is, I've never had any contact with him in e-mail.
>>Could it be that he's smart enough to figure it out all by himself?
>So he just guessed the guy's name? How could he know it unless the
>biggest fucking asshole around didn't put up that name ten thousand
>times?
Gee, Shawn, didn't you see his explanation? Or did you stick your pointy
little head in the sand and ignore it so you could continue screaming at me?
(Actually, since you quoted enough of what John wrote, isn't it curious that
you just happened to delete his explanation? Boy, you really know how to fool
_us_, don't you, Shawn?)
>You are responsible, Patrick L. Humphrey of Rice University. You
>didn't have to keep putting up the name but you did.
Bullshit, S. Shawn Smith of somewhere out there. I don't give a good goddamn
if YOU think I'm responsible -- because you've amply demonstrated that you
have no interest in debating this thing like a real man, in the first place.
If you did, you'd have the balls to actually put your real name on the shit
you spew.
>You didn't have to keep going by this guy's house, but you did.
Wow. Four times in fifteen years, and I'm an expert on Dave's house?
*snicker*
>Your sick obsession is gonna get you in trouble real soon.
How can something that doesn't exist cause me trouble? (It's obviously
causing YOU trouble, but that's your problem. Kindly fuck off and quit making
it mine.)
>>>> I've wondered aloud as to whether or not [name] was on one of those
>>>> KKK `fishing boats' in Kemah Bay during the infamous `parade' leading
>>>> up to the `Vietnamese Fishermen's Association v. the Knights of the
>>>> Ku Klux Klan' decision in federal court.
>>>You are the KKK type, putting directions to the front door for a
>>>guy with Jewish kids.
>>Keep on parading your delusions for us, Shawn. The men in the white coats
>>will be along soon enough to take you back to Rusk, where you can get the
>>treatment you so badly need.
>So "John Johnson" (who is probably you) didn't put up a full map?
He put up a damned URL, you moron.
>The guy doesn't have Jewish kids? You want to bet on that, Patty?
I don't know that Dave has Jewish kids; I've never known that Dave is or was
Jewish in the first place -- it's irrelevant, anyway. He's a repugnant
asshole, just like you are, Shawn. That's all I need to be concerned with.
>I put up ten thousand dollars. Come on fucker.
Sorry, Shawn, but I have better things to do with my money than waste it on
high-school dropout losers like you...of course, if it turns out that you're
wrong, you'll fork over the ten grand to the party of my choice, won't you?
:-)
>>>You're a shit-eating motherfucker.
>>If you want to see the definition of _that_ appellation, I suggest you find a
>>mirror, Shawn. You've done far more to earn it for yourself than anyone
>>else could ever hope to do for you.
>>--PLH, who, as it turned out, wasn't one of the _five_ thousand who came to
>>Austin Sunday afternoon
>So you gave $5000 to another guy to do the buying for you?
That's your bottle talking for you again, Shawn. Document where I claimed
that, or retract it. Isn't it time for you to claim victory by killfiling me
again?
[another 150 lines of Shawn's robo-spam, flushed]
--PLH, yanking some people's chains with a vengeance, judging by their
reactions
Patrick L. Humphrey
Lou Minatti™ <lou-m...@usa.net> writes:
>Tim Brown wrote:
>> Last spring, Mr. Humphrey went on vacation in Cincinnati for the express
>> purpose of finding out where my house is. More recently, in
>> misc.transport.road, he practically told the whole group right where my
>> house is.
>> A true 'Net stalker!
>> I wonder if he had anything to do with that guy who showed up at my
>> house in December and beat me with a magazine stand. If there's a picture
>> of Humphrey Dumphrey, I'll look at it and see if it was him.
>Say, aren't you the very same Tim Brown who was overwhelmingly voted
>Usenet Kook of the Month?
One and the same...is this latest outburst from him any surprise?
I can see he's learned well from his teachers -- Shawn Smith and Dave "Muy
Groso" Dahlman.
--PLH, which means he's in bad shape
Patrick L. Humphrey
bath...@iglou1.iglou.com (Tim Brown) writes:
>pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey) writes:
>>bath...@iglou1.iglou.com (Tim Brown) writes:
>>>Last spring, Mr. Humphrey went on vacation in Cincinnati for the express
>>>purpose of finding out where my house is. More recently, in
>>>misc.transport.road, he practically told the whole group right where my
>>>house is.
>>Bullshit, Tim. I have witnesses...and they will testify that your wet dream
>>had nothing to do with my purpose for being in Cincinnati, if it comes to
>>that.
>Then why the hell else would anyone go on vacation here? To get rained
>on?
I didn't go on vacation there, you moron. I was there on the evening of April
4 and morning of April 5. Check the Enquirer archives for the former date and
see if you can't pick up a clue as to why I might be there at that time.
>>Do you deny that you live in Highland Heights?
>Did I ever post my exact street address? NO!!!
Neither did I.
>>You brought that up
>>YOURSELF, schmuck! Remember, _you_ were the one who started this dust-up by
>>claiming your little suburb had seceded from the rest of the country and was
>>now known as "New America". Would you like that to be paraded before a court?
>Yes, I would. I want my day in court or some other forum to let people
>know where I stand in regards to all the injustices I've suffered over the
>past 14 or 15 years or so.
So, you want to learn what "diminimis non curat lex" really means? Please
don't drag me into your ignorance.
>>> A true 'Net stalker!
>>Boy, that stings, coming from a true loon.
>That really stings, coming from a known right-winger!
You wouldn't know a right-winger if one were standing behind you. How is it
I'm pro-choice, pro-NAFTA, and anti-CDA if I'm such a right-winger, again?
>>> I wonder if he had anything to do with that guy who showed up at my
>>>house in December and beat me with a magazine stand. If there's a picture
>>>of Humphrey Dumphrey, I'll look at it and see if it was him.
>>Only one small trouble, Tim...I didn't go out of state in December at any
>>time. What specific date was it? I can account for myself during that time.
>>Can you?
>I believe it was December 12, or perhaps December 11???
You don't even know, but you know it was me?
I was right here in Houston on those two dates -- and I have more than a few
witnesses to THAT fact where I work, because I was at work on both of those
dates.
--PLH, Tim loses again, goes to 0-39-1 when trailing after two periods this
season
Patrick L. Humphrey
bath...@iglou1.iglou.com (Tim Brown) writes:
>pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey) writes:
>>Looks like you're in for more than you expected, then -- because I have quite
>>a few people who can testify that I was nowhere near wherever your house is at
>>any time in December.
>>If you're going to attempt to libel me, I guess you'll have no problem with
>>being responsible for your actions, will you?
>Then how do you account for the fact that if you erase the beard on your
>picture and add a ball cap, you look exactly like the assailant, who in
>fact muttered something about the Internet as he swung his magazine rack?
Maybe because that's how you want a court to believe it, the truth be damned.
Never mind that I have a truckload of witnesses who can testify to my presence
1200 mies away on the day you _thought_ you were attacked, or any inconvenient
facts like that...
> Damn, I'm a good lawyer!
You're a good Net Kook, maybe. I wouldn't be hanging out a shingle just yet,
if I were you.
>>--PLH, who has been in Cincinnati four times in the past 40 years...and not
>>only doesn't know where Tim lives, doesn't _want_ to know
>Then how do you account for the fact that you knew exactly where the
>placement of a local freeway would work best in plowing down my house?
I _didn't_ know -- but now, thanks to your malicious and knowingly false
accusations, you've just told me, IDIOT! (It's a shame KDOT didn't pick
whatever route that was when they built the freeway, though.) So what are you
going to twist this into, Tim? I'm plotting to tear down your house?
*snicker*
--PLH, you'd think Tim would know better than to annoy someone from Bloody
Harlan...
Patrick L. Humphrey
bath...@iglou1.iglou.com (Tim Brown) writes:
>nob...@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) writes:
>>In article <Eru1u...@iglou.com>
>>Tim Brown <bath...@iglou1.iglou.com> wrote:
>>>bath...@iglou1.iglou.com (Tim Brown) writes:
>>>>Last spring, Mr. Humphrey went on vacation in Cincinnati for the express
>>>>purpose of finding out where my house is. More recently, in
>>>>misc.transport.road, he practically told the whole group right where my
>>>>house is.
>>>> A true 'Net stalker!
>>>> I wonder if he had anything to do with that guy who showed up at my
>>>>house in December and beat me with a magazine stand. If there's a picture
>>>>of Humphrey Dumphrey, I'll look at it and see if it was him.
>>>Looks like it's him. Just erase the beard, and we've got our suspect.
>>Notify the cops, dude.
>I have. I hope they show his face on "America's Most Wanted".
I seriously doubt that, considering that you can't even remember when the
supposed attack took place. I'll wait to see if the Kenton County DA contacts
me, and I'll tell him what I told you -- I was at work right here in Houston
when you think the alleged attack occurred, and I have a number of people who
will verify that.
> Even if he ain't the guy who attacked me, he still must be held
>accountable for the stalking and harassment described on
>http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/squealer.htm.
Thanks for confirming that I have nothing to fear from you, Tim. If you're
going to take anything Dave Dahlman claims about me as the gospel truth, you
deserve the outrage you're going to feel when you find out the _real_ truth.
(Besides, I'm acting within the law in Texas. I live here. You don't. Shut
up and worry about your own pathetic life instead of trying to be an asshole
and interfere in mine, eh?)
--PLH, getting tired of Dahlman's parade of trained morons
Alan Furman
In article <szk90ox...@dillinger.io.com>,
Patrick L. Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>Lou Minatti™ <lou-m...@usa.net> writes:
>
>[...]
>>Say, aren't you the very same Tim Brown who was overwhelmingly voted
>>Usenet Kook of the Month?
>
>One and the same...
...and, like Bill Clinton, stuck in "permanent campaign mode."
--
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volt...@geocities.com
On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:25:17 -0500, lan...@inil.com (Dick Lander)
wrote:
>In article <1998042219...@basement.replay.com>, nob...@REPLAY.COM
>(Anonymous) wrote:
>
>> In article <6hj90p$30r$1...@starbase.neosoft.com>
>> Anthony Garcia <aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> wrote:
>> >In article <landerr-ya0240800...@news.inil.com>,
>> >Lick Dander <lan...@inil.com> wrote:
>> >> In article <6hedn4$cot$1...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>,
>> >> aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anthony Garcia) wrote:
>> >> > Mr. Morton:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1.) If "Rack Jite" chooses to use a pseudonym on USENET, that's
>> >> > perfectly okay. It's inappropriate for you to attempt to "out" him by
>> >> > posting what you think is his real name and home city.
>> >>
>> >> If he hides behind a pseudonym in order to threaten and harrass those who
>> >> don't agree with him--which he has done repeatedly--I find it perfectly
>> >> appropriate to deny him that shield and make him responsible for his
>> >> statements and actions, along with anyone else who indulges in such
>> >> behavior in a public forum.
>> >
>> >Mr. Jite has obviously gone to lengths to conceal his true identity
>> >for fear that people who dislike his remarks might attempt to
>> >physically harm him or his family. He claims that his flame-war
>> >opponents in the past have stalked him and made threatening phone
>> >calls. In such circumstances, I consider use of a pseudonym to be
>> >perfectly appropriate and advisable.
>
>It might be--if it had ever happened. It didn't.
How would you know Lick? Do you live in Texas?
Have you been by ack's house too?
>> >How does republishing his alleged real name and address make him more
>> >"responsible" for his statements?
>
>> It lets shithead assholes like John Johnson put up FULL MAPS
>> to his front door so every Jew-hating right-wing bigot with a gun
>> knows how to find the liberal's house where he lives with his Jewish
>> family.
>
>Shawn, just because you're too dumb to realize that such resources are
>available doesn't make this some kind of "new" threat. I know the addresses
>of several anti-gun participants in this NG--some who are *very* close to
>you, Shawnie, heh heh. It's just like a gun--possession in and of itself is
>not harmful--it's what one decides to do with it.
Officer Obie has been warned about putting up private information in
his posts. He takes the bullet out and polishes it from time to time
to show what a big bad gun whore he is, too.
>> THAT IS THE ONLY REASON THEY WANT TO KNOW HIS NAME.
>
>No, it's so people can't make outrageous, unsubstantiated claims and
>personal attacks while hiding behind a pseudonym. They're not scared of
>anyone, they just don't want to be held responsible for what they say. It's
>much easier for them that way.
Their ISP knows who they are, Lick. Why do you assholes need their
address?
>> >Mr. Jite often makes rather unfair and "smeary" remarks against
>> >conservatives, libertarians, and RKBA supporters. Often? Hell, it
>> >appears to be a full-time hobby for him. But has he ever said
>> >anything that would constitute actual, actionable libel? Quotes or
>> >pointers, please. I haven't seen any, but then again, I haven't been
>> >witness to all of his apparently long career in BBS and USENET
>> >flame-warring.
>
>There are lots of people here who have likely committed libel, if anyone
>actually tried to pursue it.
Not on the net, Lick. If I say you are a right wing asshole but post
it because it is my opinion you have no case.
You yourself would be in big trouble.
>> >And in any case, even if he has committed libel, does that mean that
>> >he should have to fear for his life? Hell, no. The worst he should
>> >have to fear is a lawsuit.
>
>He doesn't *really* fear for his life. Even he's not that big of a paranoid
>wimp.
How do you know, Lick?
Are YOU Rack Jite??????
>> Day in and day out Chris "Snorts" Morton (ourhero@) calls liberals,
>> blacks, and Jewish posters Nazi racist klansmen. If anyone is guilty
>> of libel it is him.
>>
>> But they don't want to file a lawsuit. They want to make it easy
>> for any Jew-hating right-wing bigot with a gun to go kill Jewish
>> kids of a liberal who talks back to them.
>
>Here Shawn emulates the Brothers Grimm.
Here the poster tells the truth which, Lick can't handle.
>> >You allege that Mr. Jite has threatened and harrassed his opponents.
>> >I would like to see evidence to support this allegation. What exact
>> >kinds of threats and harrassment occurred, and why? Were they
>> >unprovoked, or could they be construed as an attempt to respond to
>> >another party's unjust threats or harrassment?
>>
>> There is no evidence. Ask Snorts and he just repeats the same
>> bullshit about a liberal being a National Alliance member. Or
>> he says "It's on Deja News" but it isn't.
>
>Yes, actually it is, or was. Rack is fond of trying to get his opponents in
>trouble with their employers for posting from work. Sometimes they're quite
>aware of it; other times not. He threatened me because I *reposted* his
>real name in a followup from someone else's article--didn't snip it. But
>after one reply in which I pointed out the total foolishness of what he was
>saying, he slinked away.
I thought that was me, Lick. You fools need to get your lies straight.
>> I don't see any liberals putting up FULL MAPS to folks' houses to
>> make them "accountable." That's the right-wing gun-smoochers.
>
>It's just so you idiots who don't know how to access data on the Web can be
>better informed. They didn't create the site, they just pointed it out.
So what if someone puts up a map to show where your house is, Lick?
Will you still be so calm?
What if someone started talking about the toys in your yard, Lick?
Will you still be so calm?
>> This issue of privacy is the central issue of the net. All he has to
>> do is stop and I will never address, mention or think about him ever
>> again. But sadly, he is obsessed to such a degree, it is impossible
>> for him. Which is the very definition of a stalker.
>
>Flunked out of law school too, Shawnie?!
We know a right wing stalker just like we know a right wing asshole,
Lick.
See YOU for the latter
>> A few direct quotes from the Houston Libertarian, Squealer, Stalker
>> and Abject Loser Patrick Humphrey confirming his threats and stalking:
>
>(Shawn's paranoid rantings snipped)
Lick Dander knows all and tells all.
What a prick.
Jim
Ecrasons l'infame
Join The War On Right Wing Ignorance:
http://home.att.net/~clusterone/
========================================================================
From the Liberal Dictionary:
Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.
======================================================================
volt...@geocities.com
On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:33:56 -0500, dan...@inil.com (Lick Dander)
wrote:
>In article <1998042219...@basement.replay.com>, nob...@REPLAY.COM
>(Anonymous) wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <volt...@geocities.com> wrote:
>> >On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 02:17:09 -0500, dan...@inil.com (Lick Dander)
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>In article <6hedn4$cot$1...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>,
>> >>aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anthony Garcia) wrote:
>> >>
>> >>(snip)
>> >>
>> >>> Mr. Morton:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1.) If "Rack Jite" chooses to use a pseudonym on USENET, that's
>> >>> perfectly okay. It's inappropriate for you to attempt to "out" him by
>> >>> posting what you think is his real name and home city.
>> >>
>> >>If he hides behind a pseudonym in order to threaten and harrass those who
>> >>don't agree with him--which he has done repeatedly--I find it perfectly
>> >>appropriate to deny him that shield and make him responsible for his
>> >>statements and actions, along with anyone else who indulges in such
>> >>behavior in a public forum.
>> >
>> >What has Rack threatened to do to you Dick?
>> >
>> >Perhaps he has threatened to expose your extreme stupidity for all to
>> >see?
>> >
>> >In that case you are harassing yourself every time you post.
>> >
>> >Tell us again why you support the actions of those who post the
>> >identity and home locations of liberals on the net?
>
>Jeez, is the KenneMORON *still* responding to my articles? What a dumbshit.
>Hope he likes talking to himself. :-D
So you did not see what I posted above?
How did you reply to it then, Lick?
Care to answer the question, now?
>> There is only one reason : Give every Jew-hating right-wing bigot with
>> a gun (so many on usenet) the full directions to the front door of any
>> liberal, especially those with Jewish families.
>
>These paranoid hallucinations of yours rae really getting out of hand, Shawnie.
How do you know about the area of Texas, Rack comes from, Lick.
Ever heard of Louis Beam?
>> Lick and Snorts cheered Patty when he used the John_Johnson account
>> to put up a direct map to the front door.
>
>Really, Shawnie? Perhaps you'd like to repost the article where I said
>that? (No, I don't mean FORGE it, like you usually do.) You can't, because
>I never said any such thing, you lying sack of shit.
Now Lick is answer this imaginary Shawn person as if he were some
threat?
Time for a higher dose of medicine, Lick!
>> They have no other possible reason to need to know a guy's name.
>> "We want to sue" they say. Bullshit. You can get the guy's name
>> from the ISP.
>
>Oh, did Dahlman tell you that, since he contacts so many of his opponent's
>ISPs to try to intimidate them?
Did you get a complaint about being such a net asshole, Lick.
Your posts pretty much back that one up.
>> Goddamned shit-eating motherfuckers.
>
>How profound, Shawnie! ROFL!!
Hey, Lick.
Now Snorts says Nazi Bob is this Shawn person.
What do you think?
Or do you think at all?
volt...@geocities.com
>On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:50:14 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>
>>Ask Offier Obie what happens when you post the Drivers Licence number
>>of a liberal on these groups.
>
>Ask YOURSELF what happens when YOU try to harass a Black man and his
>postmaster in email.
Poor Snorts. He is starting to believe his own lies
Or is there some law that says we must all bow down and kiss the asses
of gun whores on command?
I'm right here, Snorts.
And you are still an asshole.
All is right with the world.
volt...@geocities.com
Do the entire quote Snorts.
He said "compared to Chris Morton the National Alliance is polite and
honest."
Are you proud to be in that company?
*John_Johnson*
In <landerr-ya0240800...@news.inil.com>
lan...@inil.com (Dick Lander) writes:
> In article <1998042219...@basement.replay.com>,
> nob...@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) wrote:
[snip]
>> Lick and Snorts cheered Patty when he used the John_Johnson
>> account to put up a direct map to the front door.
>
> Really, Shawnie? Perhaps you'd like to repost the article where
> I said that? (No, I don't mean FORGE it, like you usually do.)
Furthermore, `Anon'/`Shawn'/WHOEVER: *NO* *ONE* uses *MY*
ISP account but *ME*.
Interesting that you failed and/or refused to respond to
my posting of the *REAL* source of such data: PublicData.Com
there in the D/FW area of Texas.
No: instead you have to go off `Half-Cocked'; creating your
own `E-Mail Conspiracy' theory.
If you will notice; neither Dick Lander nor myself make
any attempt to hide who we are: and as I wrote earlier; if
you have access to PublicData.Com you can easily find the
address for "John_Johnson" here in Texas (several *HUNDRED*
of us, in fact: more than 200 of us even have listed phone
numbers -- myself included <g>).
Feel free to use Four11.Com or InfoSeek.Com to look me
up: I'm there. <g>
Then you can use YAHOO! Maps or InfoSeek Maps to draw
a `map to my front door': I'm not all that hard to find. <g>
*John_Johnson*
In <1998042219...@basement.replay.com> nob...@REPLAY.COM
(Anonymous Alcoholic) writes:
> In article <6hje34$6...@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com>
> *John_Johnson* <TXJo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> In <1998042120...@basement.replay.com> nob...@REPLAY.COM
>> (Anonymous Alcoholic) writes:
>>
>> Don't ya just *love* these `guys' and their `Macho' attitude
>> when hiding behind anonymous remailers? <g> :-)
>> "Paranoia strikes deep: into your heart it will creep..."
>
> If I didn't you would post a map to my front door so every
> Jew-hating right-wing racist with a gun knew where to get me.
Sorry, `AA': one of my very best friends is Jewish -- your
rantings and ravings are inapplicable to me.
BTW: is this a tacit claim that *YOU'RE* `Jewish'???
> I have notified the police of your posts.
I *AM* `The POLICE'; you idiot!!! Not much of a `NetNut'
if you aren't aware of that *FACT*!!!
Just ask your NetTroll buddies; `Albie Is A Sham' and
Jim Ed KKKennemur: they both know who I am.
[Balance of `AA's' alcoholic-stupor-induced rantings `snipped']
*John_Johnson*
In <6hlofe$6...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> volt...@geocities.com
Friendswood, Texas' own `Flaming Liberal' Jim Ed Kennemur writes:
> On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 01:21:15 -0500, lan...@inil.com (Dick Lander)
> wrote:
>
>> In article <6hje34$6...@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com>,
>> TXJo...@ix.netcom.com(*John_Johnson*) wrote:
>>
>>> In <1998042120...@basement.replay.com> nob...@REPLAY.COM
>>> (Anonymous Alcoholic) writes:
>>>
>>> Don't ya just *love* these `guys' and their `Macho' attitude
>>> when hiding behind anonymous remailers? <g> :-)
>>> "Paranoia strikes deep: into your heart it will creep..."
>>
>> Shawn's got a problem: he's such an English Village Idiot that
>> he gives himself away through his lousy writing no matter what
>> alias(es) he uses. He also tends to repost a lot, so those who've
>> been here for a while often get a strange sense of deja vu when
>> reading his stuff.
>
> Ask Offier Obie what happens when you post the Drivers Licence number
> of a liberal on these groups.
Simple, Jim Ed: *NOTHING*! (and until you posted this message, *NO*
*ONE* even *KNEW* what that eight-digit number *WAS*!!! "Smooth Move;
MaGoo"!!! <vbg>).
[snip]
> "It is clear that the Second Amendment guarantees a
> collective rather than an idividual right... [it is' an
> erroneous supposition that the Second Amendment is concerned
> with the rights of individuals rather than those of the
> states."
>
> -- US. vs. Warin, US Court of Appeals, Sixth Circuit, 1976
^^^^^ ^^^^^^^
>
> "The right to keep and bear handguns is not guaranteed by
> the Second Amendment."
>
> -- Quilici v. Village of Morton Grove, 695 F.2d 261
> (7th Cir.1982) cert. denied, 464 US 863 (1983)
^^^ ^^^
> Notice the dates on these decisions?
Notice the *JURISDICTIONS* of these decisions, Jim Ed:
*NEITHER* is applicable here where we both live in the
Fifth Circuit's jurisdiction.
Of course; you already knew that; didn't you -- just
more `Bull Excrement' misdirection and HCI/OA propaganda
from the Gulf Coast.
> =========================================================
> From the Liberal Dictionary:
>
> Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.
> =========================================================
Yea, Jim Ed: you keep *spilling it* all over `The Ether'.
--John Johnson/TX
"To its committed members (the Democratic Party) was still the party
of heart, humanity, and justice, but to those removed a few paces it
looked like Captain Hook's crew--ambulance-chasing lawyers, rapacious
public policy grants persons, civil rights gamesmen, ditzy-brained
movie stars, fat-assed civil servant desk squatters, recovering
alcoholics, recovering wife-beaters, recovering child-buggers, and
so forth and so on, a grotesque line-up of ill-mannered, self-pitying,
caterwauling freeloaders banging their tin cups on the pavement
demanding handouts."
--Columnist Nicholas von Hoffman
The Washington Post (11-12-94)
Tim Brown
pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey) writes:
>bath...@iglou1.iglou.com (Tim Brown) writes:
>>Last spring, Mr. Humphrey went on vacation in Cincinnati for the express
>>purpose of finding out where my house is. More recently, in
>>misc.transport.road, he practically told the whole group right where my
>>house is.
>Bullshit, Tim. I have witnesses...and they will testify that your wet dream
>had nothing to do with my purpose for being in Cincinnati, if it comes to
>that.
Then why the hell else would anyone go on vacation here? To get rained
on?
>Do you deny that you live in Highland Heights?
Did I ever post my exact street address? NO!!!
>You brought that up
>YOURSELF, schmuck! Remember, _you_ were the one who started this dust-up by
>claiming your little suburb had seceded from the rest of the country and was
>now known as "New America". Would you like that to be paraded before a court?
Yes, I would. I want my day in court or some other forum to let people
know where I stand in regards to all the injustices I've suffered over the
past 14 or 15 years or so.
>> A true 'Net stalker!
>Boy, that stings, coming from a true loon.
That really stings, coming from a known right-winger!
>> I wonder if he had anything to do with that guy who showed up at my
>>house in December and beat me with a magazine stand. If there's a picture
>>of Humphrey Dumphrey, I'll look at it and see if it was him.
>Only one small trouble, Tim...I didn't go out of state in December at any
>time. What specific date was it? I can account for myself during that time.
>Can you?
I believe it was December 12, or perhaps December 11???
Tim Brown
pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey) writes:
>Looks like you're in for more than you expected, then -- because I have quite
>a few people who can testify that I was nowhere near wherever your house is at
>any time in December.
>If you're going to attempt to libel me, I guess you'll have no problem with
>being responsible for your actions, will you?
Then how do you account for the fact that if you erase the beard on your
picture and add a ball cap, you look exactly like the assailant, who in
fact muttered something about the Internet as he swung his magazine rack?
Damn, I'm a good lawyer!
>--PLH, who has been in Cincinnati four times in the past 40 years...and not
>only doesn't know where Tim lives, doesn't _want_ to know
Then how do you account for the fact that you knew exactly where the
placement of a local freeway would work best in plowing down my house?
Tim Brown
Lou Minatti <lou-m...@usa.net> writes:
>Say, aren't you the very same Tim Brown who was overwhelmingly voted
>Usenet Kook of the Month?
No. There was no Tim Brown who was voted Usenet Kook of the Month.
I *am* the same Tim Brown who took over as Kook of the Month Vote
Wrangler in December.
Tim Brown
nob...@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) writes:
>In article <Eru1u...@iglou.com>
>Tim Brown <bath...@iglou1.iglou.com> wrote:
>>bath...@iglou1.iglou.com (Tim Brown) writes:
>>
>>>Last spring, Mr. Humphrey went on vacation in Cincinnati for the express
>>>purpose of finding out where my house is. More recently, in
>>>misc.transport.road, he practically told the whole group right where my
>>>house is.
>>> A true 'Net stalker!
>>> I wonder if he had anything to do with that guy who showed up at my
>>>house in December and beat me with a magazine stand. If there's a picture
>>>of Humphrey Dumphrey, I'll look at it and see if it was him.
>>
>>Looks like it's him. Just erase the beard, and we've got our suspect.
>Notify the cops, dude.
I have. I hope they show his face on "America's Most Wanted".
Even if he ain't the guy who attacked me, he still must be held
accountable for the stalking and harassment described on
http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/squealer.htm.
Christopher Morton
On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:22:15 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:57:49 GMT, cm...@nwohio.com (Christopher
>Morton) wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:50:14 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>>
>>>Ask Offier Obie what happens when you post the Drivers Licence number
>>>of a liberal on these groups.
>>
>>Ask YOURSELF what happens when YOU try to harass a Black man and his
>>postmaster in email.
>
>Poor Snorts. He is starting to believe his own lies
I believe the email records I kept.
I notice you've never posted from that provider again either.
Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
>Or is there some law that says we must all bow down and kiss the asses
>of gun whores on command?
You sure kissed our ISP's ass goodbye.
>I'm right here, Snorts.
On a different ISP too.
>And you are still an asshole.
The term you used before was "nigger".
>All is right with the world.
You didn't seem to feel that way after you lost your account the last
time, Klansman.
Christopher Morton
On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:23:39 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:00:29 GMT, cm...@nwohio.com (Christopher
>Morton) wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:27:27 +0200 (MET DST), nob...@REPLAY.COM (Shawn
>>Smith of Austin, Texas) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <6hje34$6...@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com>
>>>*John_Johnson* <TXJo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>> In <1998042120...@basement.replay.com> nob...@REPLAY.COM
>>>> (Anonymous) writes:
>>>>
>>>> Don't ya just *love* these `guys' and their `Macho' attitude
>>>> when hiding behind anonymous remailers? <g> :-)
>>>> "Paranoia strikes deep: into your heart it will creep..."
>>>
>>>If I didn't you would post a map to my front door so every
>>>Jew-hating right-wing racist with a gun knew where to get me.
>>
>>Speaking of Jew-hating SHAWN, do you agree with David Dahlman of
>>Seabrook, Texas that the neo-Nazis of the National Alliance are
>>"polite and honest"?
>
>Do the entire quote Snorts.
So Klansman, you believe that the neo-Nazis of the National Alliance
are "polite and honest" too?
Not surprising since you've declared them your IDEOLOGICAL SOURCE.
>He said "compared to Chris Morton the National Alliance is polite and
>honest."
What do you find "polite and honest" about calling for the murder of
every living Jew and denial of the Holocaust, Klansman?
>Are you proud to be in that company?
Are you proud to be in the company of David Dahlman of Seabrook, Texas
and the neo-Nazis National Alliance?
Rack Jite
Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
TXJo...@ix.netcom.com(*John_Johnson*) was saying...
*> Ask Offier Obie what happens when you post the Drivers Licence number
*> of a liberal on these groups.
* Simple, Jim Ed: *NOTHING*! (and until you posted this message, *NO*
* *ONE* even *KNEW* what that eight-digit number *WAS*!!! "Smooth Move;
* MaGoo"!!! <vbg>).
That I remember! :) But lately I been hearing you posted a map to what
you say is my house? Come on... Really?
"All honorable men of good character who may be lucky
enough to get a BJ, not only refrain from pointing
the finger, but lie about it if asked." Father Jite
Conservatively Incorrect ----> http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/
Patrick L. Humphrey
al...@aimnet.com (Alan Furman) writes:
>In article <szk90ox...@dillinger.io.com>,
>Patrick L. Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>Lou Minatti™ <lou-m...@usa.net> writes:
>>[...]
>>>Say, aren't you the very same Tim Brown who was overwhelmingly voted
>>>Usenet Kook of the Month?
>>One and the same...
>...and, like Bill Clinton, stuck in "permanent campaign mode."
No kidding...I can almost forgive KDOT for shortchanging us on getting some
decent roads into Harlan County, but I can't like 'em too much for not moving
that one freeway over a bit to wipe out Timmy's hovel. :-)
--PLH, safely inside the Parkway
Patrick L. Humphrey
bath...@iglou1.iglou.com (Tim Brown) writes:
>nob...@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) writes:
>>In article <Eru1u...@iglou.com>
>>Tim Brown <bath...@iglou1.iglou.com> wrote:
>>>bath...@iglou1.iglou.com (Tim Brown) writes:
>>>>Last spring, Mr. Humphrey went on vacation in Cincinnati for the express
>>>>purpose of finding out where my house is. More recently, in
>>>>misc.transport.road, he practically told the whole group right where my
>>>>house is.
>>>> A true 'Net stalker!
>>>> I wonder if he had anything to do with that guy who showed up at my
>>>>house in December and beat me with a magazine stand. If there's a picture
>>>>of Humphrey Dumphrey, I'll look at it and see if it was him.
>>>Looks like it's him. Just erase the beard, and we've got our suspect.
>>Notify the cops, dude.
>I have. I hope they show his face on "America's Most Wanted".
In that case, you won't mind giving me the case number and police department,
will you? I might want to check just to make sure you're telling the truth.
(After all, someone like you, who's been elected Net Kook by such a solid
margin, can't be taken entirely at his word.)
--PLH, hey, Timmy, what was I doing in your neck of the woods last March 27?
;-)
Lou Minatti™
>
> >> Last spring, Mr. Humphrey went on vacation in Cincinnati for the express
> >> purpose of finding out where my house is. More recently, in
> >> misc.transport.road, he practically told the whole group right where my
> >> house is.
> >> A true 'Net stalker!
> >> I wonder if he had anything to do with that guy who showed up at my
> >> house in December and beat me with a magazine stand. If there's a picture
> >> of Humphrey Dumphrey, I'll look at it and see if it was him.
>
> >Usenet Kook of the Month?
>
That's what I thought. Rack sure knows how to pick his friends, eh? <g>
Tim Brown is renowned for his kooky antics. Visit alt.usenet.kooks and
check out Tim in action.
Lou Minatti™
>
> >>Last spring, Mr. Humphrey went on vacation in Cincinnati for the express
> >>purpose of finding out where my house is. More recently, in
> >>misc.transport.road, he practically told the whole group right where my
> >>house is.
>
> >had nothing to do with my purpose for being in Cincinnati, if it comes to
> >that.
>
> Then why the hell else would anyone go on vacation here? To get rained
> on?
>
> >Do you deny that you live in Highland Heights?
>
> Did I ever post my exact street address? NO!!!
>
> >You brought that up
> >YOURSELF, schmuck! Remember, _you_ were the one who started this dust-up by
> >claiming your little suburb had seceded from the rest of the country and was
> >now known as "New America". Would you like that to be paraded before a court?
>
> Yes, I would. I want my day in court or some other forum to let people
> know where I stand in regards to all the injustices I've suffered over the
> past 14 or 15 years or so.
>
> >> A true 'Net stalker!
>
> >Boy, that stings, coming from a true loon.
>
> That really stings, coming from a known right-winger!
And I'm sure Patrick is really stinging after being flamed by a Usenet
Kook Of The Month winner!
Lou Minatti™
(alt.usenet.kooks added)
Tim Brown wrote:
>
> Lou Minatti <lou-m...@usa.net> writes:
>
> >Say, aren't you the very same Tim Brown who was overwhelmingly voted
> >Usenet Kook of the Month?
>
> No. There was no Tim Brown who was voted Usenet Kook of the Month.
> I *am* the same Tim Brown who took over as Kook of the Month Vote
> Wrangler in December.
That's odd - I lurk on alt.usenet.kooks. I haven't seen any posts from
others backing up your claim.
Christopher Morton
>pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey) writes:
>
>>bath...@iglou1.iglou.com (Tim Brown) writes:
>
>>>Last spring, Mr. Humphrey went on vacation in Cincinnati for the express
>>>purpose of finding out where my house is. More recently, in
>>>misc.transport.road, he practically told the whole group right where my
>>>house is.
>
>>Bullshit, Tim. I have witnesses...and they will testify that your wet dream
>>had nothing to do with my purpose for being in Cincinnati, if it comes to
>>that.
>
>Then why the hell else would anyone go on vacation here? To get rained
>on?
Maybe they wanted to see WKRP.
Christopher Morton
>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
>TXJo...@ix.netcom.com(*John_Johnson*) was saying...
>
>*> Ask Offier Obie what happens when you post the Drivers Licence number
>*> of a liberal on these groups.
>
>* Simple, Jim Ed: *NOTHING*! (and until you posted this message, *NO*
>* *ONE* even *KNEW* what that eight-digit number *WAS*!!! "Smooth Move;
>* MaGoo"!!! <vbg>).
>
>That I remember! :) But lately I been hearing you posted a map to what
>you say is my house? Come on... Really?
A map to Berchtesgaden from Seabrook, Texas?
It must have been very long....
Patrick L. Humphrey
In article <6hnmeu$lr4$1...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anthony Garcia) writes:
>In article <szk67k1...@dillinger.io.com>,
>Patrick L. Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>--PLH, you'd think Tim would know better than to annoy someone from Bloody
>>Harlan...
>What does that mean? I don't catch the reference.
Probably you don't get it because you're not from Kentucky...but I'm going to
hold off on explaining the history behind that name for the county I was born
in until Tim guesses at it. Might as well have a _little_ fun in the midst of
this spitfest, eh?
--PLH, okay, I got the beer...who's got the popcorn?
Tim Brown
Lou Minatti <lou-m...@usa.net> writes:
>And I'm sure Patrick is really stinging after being flamed by a Usenet
>Kook Of The Month winner!
I didn't know William Mullin or Wayne Strang flamed him.
Lone_Wolf
In <EruIC...@iglou.com> bath...@iglou1.iglou.com (Tim Brown) writes:
#pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey) writes:
#>Looks like you're in for more than you expected, then -- because I have quite
#>a few people who can testify that I was nowhere near wherever your house is at
#>any time in December.
#>If you're going to attempt to libel me, I guess you'll have no problem with
#>being responsible for your actions, will you?
#Then how do you account for the fact that if you erase the beard on your
#picture and add a ball cap, you look exactly like the assailant, who in
#fact muttered something about the Internet as he swung his magazine rack?
# Damn, I'm a good lawyer!
#>--PLH, who has been in Cincinnati four times in the past 40 years...and not
#>only doesn't know where Tim lives, doesn't _want_ to know
#Then how do you account for the fact that you knew exactly where the
#placement of a local freeway would work best in plowing down my house?
Are you the Tim Brown of Tim Brown
XXXX Allendale Dr #X
Cincinnati,OH 45209-1420
(513)272- XXXX
Or Timothy Brown
XXXX Beechwood Rd
Cincinnati,OH 45244-1038
(513)576-XXXX
I guess I could find out, if I wanted to. Amazing what a few searches online
will do for you.
Of course, do you REALLY live in Ohio, since you talk so much about issues
in Kentucky? Especially since you mention having been born in 1973 and
living 24 years in Highland Heights... Strange, your 25th birthday hasn't
arrived yet, according to your web page...
But then again, you admit to being schizophrenic, claim someone's 'electronic
harassment' forced you to run out into traffic, incurring injuries, claoim
to have been tortured, seem to advocate vandalism, and otherwise sound
like a perfect example of a fucked-up individual. If your biography can
be believed.
James
#--
#bath...@iglou.com http://members.iglou.com/bathroom Tantrum 95.7 FM
#Read THE LAST WORD before the Kenton County Public LIEbrary censors it!
#Support true Internet free speech -- Stop the Cabal and 'Net Nazis!
#*** Gatewood Galbraith for Governor 1999 ***
volt...@geocities.com
On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 03:19:22 GMT, cm...@nwohio.com (Christopher
Morton) wrote:
>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:22:15 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:57:49 GMT, cm...@nwohio.com (Christopher
>>Morton) wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:50:14 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>Ask Offier Obie what happens when you post the Drivers Licence number
>>>>of a liberal on these groups.
>>>
>>>Ask YOURSELF what happens when YOU try to harass a Black man and his
>>>postmaster in email.
>>
>>Poor Snorts. He is starting to believe his own lies
>
>I believe the email records I kept.
Do you have them in your pocket Senator Snorts?
>I notice you've never posted from that provider again either.
>
>Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
What provider, Snorts?
Do you keep a record of where everyone on here posts from?
Do you have our addresses?
Are you going to play Stalker like your buddy Patrick Humphrey?
>>Or is there some law that says we must all bow down and kiss the asses
>>of gun whores on command?
>
>You sure kissed our ISP's ass goodbye.
Or so you say. But how would you know where I am posting from, Snorts?
>>I'm right here, Snorts.
>
>On a different ISP too.
Am I?
>>And you are still an asshole.
>
>The term you used before was "nigger".
Nope. Malcolm X used a different term for people who kiss bigot butt
in honor of their gun worship, Chris.
You know that one is a lie too.
But since you have no real purpose except to attack liberals you must
recycle the same old BS.
That's why I pull you out of the kill file every now and then.
You are too stupid for belief.
>>All is right with the world.
>
>You didn't seem to feel that way after you lost your account the last
>time, Klansman.
Are you an employee of an ISP, Snorts?
Have you seen my personal records?
Where am I posting from?
Do you have secret files on all the liberals who call you on your
extremist bullshit?
Hit your knees, Snorts. Your gun whore Big House is on fire!
Jim
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volt...@geocities.com
On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 03:21:50 GMT, cm...@nwohio.com (Christopher
Morton) wrote:
>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:23:39 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:00:29 GMT, cm...@nwohio.com (Christopher
>>Morton) wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:27:27 +0200 (MET DST), nob...@REPLAY.COM (Shawn
>>>Smith of Austin, Texas) wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <6hje34$6...@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com>
>>>>*John_Johnson* <TXJo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>> In <1998042120...@basement.replay.com> nob...@REPLAY.COM
>>>>> (Anonymous) writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't ya just *love* these `guys' and their `Macho' attitude
>>>>> when hiding behind anonymous remailers? <g> :-)
>>>>> "Paranoia strikes deep: into your heart it will creep..."
>>>>
>>>>If I didn't you would post a map to my front door so every
>>>>Jew-hating right-wing racist with a gun knew where to get me.
>>>
>>>Speaking of Jew-hating SHAWN, do you agree with David Dahlman of
>>>Seabrook, Texas that the neo-Nazis of the National Alliance are
>>>"polite and honest"?
>>
>>Do the entire quote Snorts.
>
>So Klansman, you believe that the neo-Nazis of the National Alliance
>are "polite and honest" too?
Lets see that quote with full headers.
I have seen the whole quote. Your name was mentioned as being less
polite and honest than the scumbag Nazis.
I wonder why you don't mention that Snorts?
>Not surprising since you've declared them your IDEOLOGICAL SOURCE.
Lets see that one as well, Snorts. Your lies are easy to answer.
I have been all over Nazi Bob and the rest of the bigots on these
groups for over two years.
But since I am a moderate on the issue of gun control you attack me.
You are the biggest joke on these groups, Snorts.
And here are you lies and stupidity for all to see:
http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/morton.htm
>>He said "compared to Chris Morton the National Alliance is polite and
>>honest."
>
>What do you find "polite and honest" about calling for the murder of
>every living Jew and denial of the Holocaust, Klansman?
Nothing. But he seems to think you are even more deranged.
I must agree that you are a total nutcase.
>>Are you proud to be in that company?
>
>Are you proud to be in the company of David Dahlman of Seabrook, Texas
>and the neo-Nazis National Alliance?
You know better than that Snorts.
You are seeing imaginary liberals who are after you.
You attack liberals but fail to answer people like Nazi Bob.
I guess gun blue is thicker than water.
Malcolm X was right about you, Chris.
Patrick L. Humphrey
>Lou Minatti <lou-m...@usa.net> writes:
>>And I'm sure Patrick is really stinging after being flamed by a Usenet
>>Kook Of The Month winner!
>I didn't know William Mullin or Wayne Strang flamed him.
I've never been flamed by Archimedes Plutonium or Serdar Argic,
either...what's your point?
--PLH, besides that one atop your head, I mean
Lou Minatti™
Tim Brown wrote:
>
> Lou Minatti <lou-m...@usa.net> writes:
>
> >And I'm sure Patrick is really stinging after being flamed by a Usenet
> >Kook Of The Month winner!
>
> I didn't know William Mullin or Wayne Strang flamed him.
As far as I know, they didn't. Just you, Tim Brown, winner of the
infamous Usenet Kook of the Month award. Take a bow, Tim!
For some splendid examples of why Tim won this stellar award, see
alt.usenet.kooks
Christopher Morton
On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 21:37:43 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 03:19:22 GMT, cm...@nwohio.com (Christopher
>Morton) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:22:15 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:57:49 GMT, cm...@nwohio.com (Christopher
>>>Morton) wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:50:14 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Ask Offier Obie what happens when you post the Drivers Licence number
>>>>>of a liberal on these groups.
>>>>
>>>>Ask YOURSELF what happens when YOU try to harass a Black man and his
>>>>postmaster in email.
>>>
>>>Poor Snorts. He is starting to believe his own lies
>>
>>I believe the email records I kept.
>
>Do you have them in your pocket Senator Snorts?
No, I keep them on my hard drive Gauleiter KKKennemur.
>
>>I notice you've never posted from that provider again either.
>>
>>Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
>
>What provider, Snorts?
The one you no longer have.
>Do you keep a record of where everyone on here posts from?
It's called a message header, Klansman. Look it up.
>
>Do you have our addresses?
>
>Are you going to play Stalker like your buddy Patrick Humphrey?
Never been to Texas, Klansman. Have no plans to go.
>>You sure kissed our ISP's ass goodbye.
>
>Or so you say. But how would you know where I am posting from, Snorts?
It's called a message header, retarded racist.
>>>I'm right here, Snorts.
>>
>>On a different ISP too.
>
>Am I?
Yep.
>
>>>And you are still an asshole.
>>
>>The term you used before was "nigger".
>
>Nope. Malcolm X used a different term for people who kiss bigot butt
>in honor of their gun worship, Chris.
The term you used before was "nigger", Klansman.
>You know that one is a lie too.
I know you tell nothing but lies, Klansman.
>But since you have no real purpose except to attack liberals you must
>recycle the same old BS.
I don't attack liberals. I attack White supremacists like you,
Klansman.
>That's why I pull you out of the kill file every now and then.
You don't have me in your killfile and never will. You can't stand
the idea of a Black man talking about you without knowing what he's
saying.
>You are too stupid for belief.
White racists have been calling Blacks stupid for 300 years. What's
new?
>
>>>All is right with the world.
>>
>>You didn't seem to feel that way after you lost your account the last
>>time, Klansman.
>
>Are you an employee of an ISP, Snorts?
Are you an employee of ANYONE, Klansman?
>Have you seen my personal records?
No, but the vice squad probably has.
>Where am I posting from?
A NAMBLA chapter?
*John_Johnson*
In <6hmod2$o...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> rack...@worldnet.att.net
(Rack Jite); aka: David Fuller Dahlman; writes:
> Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
> TXJo...@ix.netcom.com(*John_Johnson*) was saying...
>
>*> Ask Offier Obie what happens when you post the Drivers Licence
>*> number of a liberal on these groups.
>
>* Simple, Jim Ed: *NOTHING*! (and until you posted this message,
>* *NO* *ONE* even *KNEW* what that eight-digit number *WAS*!!!
>* "Smooth Move; MaGoo"!!! <vbg>).
>
> That I remember! :) But lately I been hearing you posted a map
> to what you say is my house? Come on... Really?
Interesting way David Dahlman continues to put forth the facade
that he and `Rack Jite' (aka: `Muy Groso'; `Curmudgeon'; `Ecliptic';
`Stratosfear'; `Outman'; `Ross Fuller'; et al.) are not one and
the same.
Too late: he's already left his `electronic fingerprints' and
`electronic footprints' *all* over `The Ether'.
And since Dahlman, `Anonymous Alcoholic', Jim Ed Kennemur, et al.,
are so concerned about maps; here's a map to `My Old House' (sorry,
Bob Vila <g>): feel free to drop by sometime -- be sure to call
first (look me up: I'm in the book <g>) so I can bake a cake for
cake and coffee (the coffee pot is *always* on <g>):
<http://maps.yahoo.com/yahoo/yt.hm?FAM=yahoo&CMD=GEO&SEC=geo&AD2=&AD3=D
llas%2C+TX+75216-3612&recent=0>
> "All honorable men of good character who may be lucky
> enough to get a BJ, not only refrain from pointing
> the finger, but lie about it if asked." Father Jite
> Conservatively Incorrect ----> http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/
--John Johnson/TX
"To its committed members (the Democratic Party) was still the party
of heart, humanity, and justice, but to those removed a few paces it
looked like Captain Hook's crew--ambulance-chasing lawyers, rapacious
public policy grants persons, civil rights gamesmen, ditzy-brained
movie stars, fat-assed civil servant desk squatters, recovering
alcoholics, recovering wife-beaters, recovering child-buggers, and
so forth and so on, a grotesque line-up of ill-mannered, self-pitying,
caterwauling freeloaders banging their tin cups on the pavement
demanding handouts."
--Columnist Nicholas von Hoffman
The Washington Post (11-12-94)
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart.
If you're 30 and not a conservative, you have no brains."
--Sir Winston Churchill
"Conservatives are afraid the people WON'T understand;
Liberals are afraid the people WILL understand!!"
"We are a Republican Government. Real liberty is never
found in despotism or in the extremes of Democracy."
--Alexander Hamilton
"Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes,
exhausts, and murders itself! There never was a democracy that
did not commit suicide."
--Samuel Adams
I disapprove of what you say, but will
defend to the death your right to say it.
--Voltaire
Christopher Morton
On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 21:43:44 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>>So Klansman, you believe that the neo-Nazis of the National Alliance
>>are "polite and honest" too?
>
>Lets see that quote with full headers.
So, Klansman, you believe that the neo-Nazis of the National Alliance
are "polite and honest" too?
>I have seen the whole quote. Your name was mentioned as being less
>polite and honest than the scumbag Nazis.
So, Klansman, you believe that the neo-Nazis of the National Alliance
are "polite and honest" too? When did you decide that using Dahlman's
real name was worse than calling for genocide?
>I wonder why you don't mention that Snorts?
Wonder why you think using Dahlman's real name is worse than genocide
and Holocaust revisionism, Klansman?
>>Not surprising since you've declared them your IDEOLOGICAL SOURCE.
>
>Lets see that one as well, Snorts. Your lies are easy to answer.
When did you become ashamed of your IDEOLOGICAL SOURCE.
>I have been all over Nazi Bob and the rest of the bigots on these
>groups for over two years.
Funny how you haven't been all over Milton Kleim, Larry Jansen or Doc
Tavish. Too much commonality of belief and purpose I guess.
>But since I am a moderate on the issue of gun control you attack me.
When did wanting to disarm Blacks and create a White monopoly on the
means of armed force become "moderate"?
>You are the biggest joke on these groups, Snorts.
Certainly I don't have the same credibility with you that the National
Alliance does.
volt...@geocities.com
>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 21:37:43 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>>>>Poor Snorts. He is starting to believe his own lies
>>>I believe the email records I kept.
>>Do you have them in your pocket Senator Snorts?
>No, I keep them on my hard drive Gauleiter KKKennemur.
Next to your list of all the Commies in the State Department?
>>>I notice you've never posted from that provider again either.
>>>
>>>Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
>>What provider, Snorts?
>The one you no longer have.
Which would be, Snorts?
>>Do you keep a record of where everyone on here posts from?
>
>It's called a message header, Klansman. Look it up.
So you do keep a record of all the liberals who question your extreme
political pronouncements?
Should we expect a pipe bomb or a snipers bullet in the near future?
>>Do you have our addresses?
>>
>>Are you going to play Stalker like your buddy Patrick Humphrey?
>
>Never been to Texas, Klansman. Have no plans to go.
How do you know where I live, Snorts?
>>>You sure kissed our ISP's ass goodbye.
>>
>>Or so you say. But how would you know where I am posting from, Snorts?
>
>It's called a message header, retarded racist.
So tell us all Snorts. You keep saying you know who my ISP was and is.
Are you writing a book about liberals who have bested you on this
area, Snorts.
That will be one hell of a big book.
And drop the bullshit racist insults. I'm the liberal. You are the
bonehead Looneytarian who sucks up to bigot gun whores.
>>>>I'm right here, Snorts.
>>>
>>>On a different ISP too.
>>
>>Am I?
>
>Yep.
Or so you say. But you don't seem to be able to prove it. But you can
growl and act tough.
We are all laughing at you Snorts.
>>>>And you are still an asshole.
>>>
>>>The term you used before was "nigger".
>>
>>Nope. Malcolm X used a different term for people who kiss bigot butt
>>in honor of their gun worship, Chris.
>
>The term you used before was "nigger", Klansman.
So lets see my post with full headers where I said that.
Or are you still lying, Snorts?
>>You know that one is a lie too.
>
>I know you tell nothing but lies, Klansman.
So I guess my web site is a collection of racist propaganda too?
Have you read my web site, Snorts?
Look under "Know Your Enemy" and tell us all who I see as the enemy of
thinking American.
>>But since you have no real purpose except to attack liberals you must
>>recycle the same old BS.
>
>I don't attack liberals. I attack White supremacists like you,
>Klansman.
No Chris. You spend your time on the net labeling liberals who call
you on your Looneytarian extremism, racists and Nazis.
You are the joke of these subs.
See http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/morton.htm for you greatest hits,
Snorts.
Your stupidity is there for all to see.
And you can't lie it away.
>>That's why I pull you out of the kill file every now and then.
>
>You don't have me in your killfile and never will. You can't stand
>the idea of a Black man talking about you without knowing what he's
>saying.
Again with the racial labeling, Snorts?
You are an extreme asshole because you are an extreme asshole.
Race is not a factor here, except to YOU.
>>You are too stupid for belief.
>
>White racists have been calling Blacks stupid for 300 years. What's
>new?
I am calling YOU stupid, Chris. Where did I mention race or any group
of people?
I said YOU Snorts.
You are an extreme asshole.
What part of YOU do you not understand?
>>>>All is right with the world.
>>>
>>>You didn't seem to feel that way after you lost your account the last
>>>time, Klansman.
>>
>>Are you an employee of an ISP, Snorts?
>
>Are you an employee of ANYONE, Klansman?
Tell us, Chris, how you know about other people's internet accounts?
Can you read minds?
Do you have access to ISP records?
Do you have another one of your lists in your pocket?
>>Have you seen my personal records?
>
>No, but the vice squad probably has.
Based on what?
Which vice squad?
Tell us more Snorts.
>>Where am I posting from?
>
>A NAMBLA chapter?
You don't have a clue do you, Chris?
Lets review.
You know noting. You make wild accusations based on what you know.
You are an extremist asshole.
That about covers it.
Back on your knees, Snorts. Your NRA big house is burning again.
Oh and I talked to the real Shawn this evening and he said your Momma
was really good last night.
Jim
volt...@geocities.com
>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 21:43:44 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>
>>>So Klansman, you believe that the neo-Nazis of the National Alliance
>>>are "polite and honest" too?
>>
>>Lets see that quote with full headers.
>
>So, Klansman, you believe that the neo-Nazis of the National Alliance
>are "polite and honest" too?
No. I say you are leaving out the part where Rack said "Compared to
Chris Morton the National Alliance is polite and honest.
Lets see the whole quote with full headers, Snorts.
You have been talking about headers.
Show us you can read one and post it.
Or are you just a lying little gun whore who is all talk and bluster?
>>I have seen the whole quote. Your name was mentioned as being less
>>polite and honest than the scumbag Nazis.
>
>So, Klansman, you believe that the neo-Nazis of the National Alliance
>are "polite and honest" too? When did you decide that using Dahlman's
>real name was worse than calling for genocide?
Back to reality, Snorts. Let's see the whole quote with headers or you
are proven to be a mega-liar once again.
>>I wonder why you don't mention that Snorts?
>
>Wonder why you think using Dahlman's real name is worse than genocide
>and Holocaust revisionism, Klansman?
Got a quote with full headers where I have said that either, Snorts?
You little gun whore strawmen won't work.
You are just spanking the monkey as usual.
>>>Not surprising since you've declared them your IDEOLOGICAL SOURCE.
>>
>>Lets see that one as well, Snorts. Your lies are easy to answer.
>
>When did you become ashamed of your IDEOLOGICAL SOURCE.
Since I never said it, never.
Another Morton lie in action.
For more of Chris Morton's flights of fantasy see:
http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/morton.htm
>>I have been all over Nazi Bob and the rest of the bigots on these
>>groups for over two years.
>Funny how you haven't been all over Milton Kleim, Larry Jansen or Doc
>Tavish. Too much commonality of belief and purpose I guess.
I am not on an area with them Chris. It is hard to post to someone who
you do not read.
Why don't you share your posts to them with us.
I'd be willing to bet you are swapping gun stories and kissing their
reactionary asses based on your common gun worship.
They love guns just like you do.
>>But since I am a moderate on the issue of gun control you attack me.
>
>When did wanting to disarm Blacks and create a White monopoly on the
>means of armed force become "moderate"?
Another Morton strawman in action.
You really are a moron, Snorts.
But we knew that.
>>You are the biggest joke on these groups, Snorts.
>
>Certainly I don't have the same credibility with you that the National
>Alliance does.
So let's see the proof, Snorts.
Or are you just going to make your usual accusations that you can't
back up?
Back on your knees, Snorts. Your NRA big house is burning again!
Jim
Tim Brown
<Eru1uJ.5E7@i <EruIC...@iglou.com> <6hoaoo$eil$1...@gypsy.cad.gatech.edu>
gt6...@gypsy.cad.gatech.edu (Lone_Wolf) writes:
I sure hope Georgia Institute of Technology doesn't require you to take
geography, because you'd fail. Any 2nd-grade imbecile can tell you that
most of the neighboring urban areas around Cincinnati are in Kentucky.
Read a map. Or better yet, read.
--
bath...@iglou.com http://members.iglou.com/bathroom Tantrum 95.7 FM
Read THE LAST WORD before the Kenton County Public LIEbrary censors it!
Support true Internet free speech -- Stop the Cabal and 'Net Nazis!
Dick Lander
In article <353fe942....@enews.newsguy.com>, cm...@nwohio.com wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 21:37:43 GMT, volt...@geocities.com (the KenneMORON)
wrote:
(snip)
> >That's why I pull you out of the kill file every now and then.
>
> You don't have me in your killfile and never will. You can't stand
> the idea of a Black man talking about you without knowing what he's
> saying.
Apparently he can't stand it when someone *doesn't* talk about him either.
After a couple of years of his inane character assassination and
guilt-by-association crap, I finally got tired of it and put the KenneMORON
in the killfile a few weeks ago. Now I check and find out that he's got
about half a dozen responses to my articles, just today.
Maybe I should spell it out for him: HEY JIMMYED! GET A CLUE! YOU'RE
WASTING YOUR TIME, AND BANDWIDTH. I DON'T CARE IN THE LEAST WHAT YOU HAVE
TO SAY. MY SOFTWARE KILLS YOUR WORTHLESS ARTICLES BEFORE I EVER SEE THEM.
GIVE UP. GO SPEW YOUR BIGOTED LIES AT SOMEONE WHO'S FOOLISH ENOUGH TO
RESPOND TO YOU.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Richard W. (Dick) Lander; sportsman,
Macintosh devotee, proponent
of personal liberty.
<http://www.inil.com/users/landerr/>
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Judicial verbicide is calculated to convert the Constitution
into a worthless scrap of paper and to replace our government
of laws with a judicial oligarchy." --Senator Sam Ervin
Dick Lander
In article <6hm54u$k...@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>,
TXJo...@ix.netcom.com(*John_Johnson*) wrote:
> In <landerr-ya0240800...@news.inil.com>
> lan...@inil.com (Dick Lander) writes:
>
> > In article <1998042219...@basement.replay.com>,
> > nob...@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) wrote:
> [snip]
> >> Lick and Snorts cheered Patty when he used the John_Johnson
> >> account to put up a direct map to the front door.
> >
> > Really, Shawnie? Perhaps you'd like to repost the article where
> > I said that? (No, I don't mean FORGE it, like you usually do.)
>
> Furthermore, `Anon'/`Shawn'/WHOEVER: *NO* *ONE* uses *MY*
> ISP account but *ME*.
Shawn may be able to make some of the lurkers wonder what's going on, but
most of us know it's just more of his never-ending smokescreen.
> Interesting that you failed and/or refused to respond to
> my posting of the *REAL* source of such data: PublicData.Com
> there in the D/FW area of Texas.
> No: instead you have to go off `Half-Cocked'; creating your
> own `E-Mail Conspiracy' theory.
> If you will notice; neither Dick Lander nor myself make
> any attempt to hide who we are: and as I wrote earlier; if
> you have access to PublicData.Com you can easily find the
> address for "John_Johnson" here in Texas (several *HUNDRED*
> of us, in fact: more than 200 of us even have listed phone
> numbers -- myself included <g>).
> Feel free to use Four11.Com or InfoSeek.Com to look me
> up: I'm there. <g>
> Then you can use YAHOO! Maps or InfoSeek Maps to draw
> a `map to my front door': I'm not all that hard to find. <g>
Maybe these guys don't have any life outside of Usenet, you know? They
spend all their time hopping from one newsgroup to another and never do
anything else. Or maybe they haven't figured out how to use a web browser
yet. Jeez.
There are all sorts of resources on the Web to look people up; I used
Switchboard to find two frat brothers from college whom I hadn't seen for
over 20 years, with nothing more than a name and an idea of the state where
I suspected they might be living now. (And a bit of luck. :-) )
I have a hard time believing these guys are this naive. Their bleating
seems more like another lame attempt to accuse their opponents of stalking,
when they know damn well the info is there for the taking. Get a clue,
anti-gun weenies: even if we wanted to know where you live, you think we'd
risk prison or worse to dispatch one of you disingenuous milquetoasts?
ROFL!! I wouldn't waste 158 grains of lead like that, and no one I know
would either.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Richard W. (Dick) Lander; sportsman,
Macintosh devotee, proponent
of personal liberty.
<http://www.inil.com/users/landerr/>
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"[Assault weapons'] menacing looks, coupled with the public's
confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic
assault weapons--anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to
be a machine gun--can only increase the chance of public support for
restrictions on these weapons."
--Josh Sugarmann, executive director of New Right Watch and spokesman
for the National Coalition to Ban Handguns,"Assault Weapons and
Accessories in America," policy report of New Right Watch and the
Education Fund to End Handgun Violence, September 1988
Dick Lander
In article <6hot9h$m...@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>,
TXJo...@ix.netcom.com(*John_Johnson*) wrote:
Gee, John, aren't you *afeared*?! Someone might find out that you have a
swing in your front yard, or a Big Wheel under the carport! They might ride
by on a bicycle and see you have a mailbox in the shape of a farm tractor!
They might see what kind of car you drive! As if all this wasn't enough,
aren't you constantly wringing your hands because people *own guns*?! How
do you ever get any sleep?
ROFLMAO!!!!!!
I find this quote a sad irony since KKKennemur has Voltaire as his
namesake. Talk about diametrically opposed...
> --
> John_Johnson
> TXJo...@ix.netcom.com
> © 1998 All rights reserved
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Richard W. (Dick) Lander; sportsman,
Macintosh devotee, proponent
of personal liberty.
<http://www.inil.com/users/landerr/>
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Democrats and Republicans both want to take your money. The
difference is that Democrats want to take it and split it with people who
don't and won't work, while Republicans want to take it from you, take their
share, and give the rest back to you. Both methods stink, but the Republican
version is merely extortion, while the Democratic version is robbery.
--Commonsenz
Cad
In <353EA2...@usa.net> Lou Minatti™ <lou-m...@usa.net> writes:
>
>Say, aren't you the very same Tim Brown who was overwhelmingly voted
>Usenet Kook of the Month?
>
>>
>> Last spring, Mr. Humphrey went on vacation in Cincinnati for the
express
>> purpose of finding out where my house is. More recently, in
>> misc.transport.road, he practically told the whole group right where
my
>> house is.
>> I wonder if he had anything to do with that guy who showed up at
my
>> house in December and beat me with a magazine stand. If there's a
picture
>> of Humphrey Dumphrey, I'll look at it and see if it was him.
Good god man, who would need a map? Just ask anyone in the Cinci area
where the screeching paranoid kook is and I'm sure they'll know the
way. Of course, your local guide just might have a question for you,
such as why in the hell would anyone want to go out of their way to
visit the village idiot?
Tim Brown
<EruI7...@iglou.com> <353F20...@usa.net> <ErvsD...@iglou.com> <354009...@usa.net>
Lou Minatti <lou-m...@usa.net> writes:
>Tim Brown wrote:
>>
>> Lou Minatti <lou-m...@usa.net> writes:
>>
>> >And I'm sure Patrick is really stinging after being flamed by a Usenet
>> >Kook Of The Month winner!
>>
>> I didn't know William Mullin or Wayne Strang flamed him.
>As far as I know, they didn't. Just you, Tim Brown, winner of the
>infamous Usenet Kook of the Month award. Take a bow, Tim!
>For some splendid examples of why Tim won this stellar award, see
>alt.usenet.kooks
Voopvoopavoop WRONG! The only award I won was the fake awards handed out
by some fascist dickweed named Robbie Honerkamp. It is generally agreed
that Honerkamp is a fraud, and nobody has voted in any of his contests in
3 months.
volt...@geocities.com
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 01:13:44 -0500, lan...@inil.com (Lick Dander)
wrote:
>In article <6hm54u$k...@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>,
>TXJo...@ix.netcom.com(*John_Johnson*) wrote:
>
>> In <landerr-ya0240800...@news.inil.com>
>> lan...@inil.com (Dick Lander) writes:
>>
>> > In article <1998042219...@basement.replay.com>,
>> > nob...@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) wrote:
>> [snip]
>> >> Lick and Snorts cheered Patty when he used the John_Johnson
>> >> account to put up a direct map to the front door.
>> >
>> > Really, Shawnie? Perhaps you'd like to repost the article where
>> > I said that? (No, I don't mean FORGE it, like you usually do.)
>>
>> Furthermore, `Anon'/`Shawn'/WHOEVER: *NO* *ONE* uses *MY*
>> ISP account but *ME*.
>
>Shawn may be able to make some of the lurkers wonder what's going on, but
>most of us know it's just more of his never-ending smokescreen.
I talked to the real Shawn last night, Lick.
It isn't him.
>
>> Interesting that you failed and/or refused to respond to
>> my posting of the *REAL* source of such data: PublicData.Com
>> there in the D/FW area of Texas.
>> No: instead you have to go off `Half-Cocked'; creating your
>> own `E-Mail Conspiracy' theory.
>> If you will notice; neither Dick Lander nor myself make
>> any attempt to hide who we are: and as I wrote earlier; if
>> you have access to PublicData.Com you can easily find the
>> address for "John_Johnson" here in Texas (several *HUNDRED*
>> of us, in fact: more than 200 of us even have listed phone
>> numbers -- myself included <g>).
>> Feel free to use Four11.Com or InfoSeek.Com to look me
>> up: I'm there. <g>
>> Then you can use YAHOO! Maps or InfoSeek Maps to draw
>> a `map to my front door': I'm not all that hard to find. <g>
>
>Maybe these guys don't have any life outside of Usenet, you know? They
>spend all their time hopping from one newsgroup to another and never do
>anything else. Or maybe they haven't figured out how to use a web browser
>yet. Jeez.
Say Lick the gun whore crybaby.
>There are all sorts of resources on the Web to look people up; I used
>Switchboard to find two frat brothers from college whom I hadn't seen for
>over 20 years, with nothing more than a name and an idea of the state where
>I suspected they might be living now. (And a bit of luck. :-) )
Lick was a frat boy. Big surprise!
>I have a hard time believing these guys are this naive. Their bleating
>seems more like another lame attempt to accuse their opponents of stalking,
>when they know damn well the info is there for the taking. Get a clue,
>anti-gun weenies: even if we wanted to know where you live, you think we'd
>risk prison or worse to dispatch one of you disingenuous milquetoasts?
>ROFL!! I wouldn't waste 158 grains of lead like that, and no one I know
>would either.
So you threaten by not threatening?
Lick Dander is Chris Morton.
Jim
>
>* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>Richard W. (Dick) Lander; sportsman,
>Macintosh devotee, proponent
>of personal liberty.
><http://www.inil.com/users/landerr/>
>* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>
>"[Assault weapons'] menacing looks, coupled with the public's
>confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic
>assault weapons--anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to
>be a machine gun--can only increase the chance of public support for
>restrictions on these weapons."
>
>--Josh Sugarmann, executive director of New Right Watch and spokesman
>for the National Coalition to Ban Handguns,"Assault Weapons and
>Accessories in America," policy report of New Right Watch and the
>Education Fund to End Handgun Violence, September 1988
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Join The War On Right Wing Ignorance:
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volt...@geocities.com
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:53:15 -0500, lan...@inil.com (Dick Lander)
wrote:
>In article <353fe942....@enews.newsguy.com>, cm...@nwohio.com wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 21:37:43 GMT, volt...@geocities.com (the KenneMORON)
>wrote:
>
>(snip)
>
>> >That's why I pull you out of the kill file every now and then.
>>
>> You don't have me in your killfile and never will. You can't stand
>> the idea of a Black man talking about you without knowing what he's
>> saying.
>
>Apparently he can't stand it when someone *doesn't* talk about him either.
Why Lick. I din't know you were now worshiping me as well.
>After a couple of years of his inane character assassination and
>guilt-by-association crap, I finally got tired of it and put the KenneMORON
>in the killfile a few weeks ago. Now I check and find out that he's got
>about half a dozen responses to my articles, just today.
Articles where Lick attacks me while claiming he don't see my
responses. Right after Lick says he saw " half a dozen" of my
responses.
Got an explanation for that, Lick?
>Maybe I should spell it out for him: HEY JIMMYED! GET A CLUE! YOU'RE
>WASTING YOUR TIME, AND BANDWIDTH. I DON'T CARE IN THE LEAST WHAT YOU HAVE
>TO SAY. MY SOFTWARE KILLS YOUR WORTHLESS ARTICLES BEFORE I EVER SEE THEM.
>GIVE UP. GO SPEW YOUR BIGOTED LIES AT SOMEONE WHO'S FOOLISH ENOUGH TO
>RESPOND TO YOU.
My. My. Now Lick is shouting. Good. If I get his blood pressure high
enough who knows what will happen.
Once again I must ask how Lick is seeing my responses if he have me in
a kill file.
And why is Lick upset if he is not reading what I post about his
extremism.
Your anger betrays you, Lick.
Your stupidity precedes you.
Jim
Christopher Morton
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 03:33:37 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>>No, I keep them on my hard drive Gauleiter KKKennemur.
>
>Next to your list of all the Commies in the State Department?
No, that would be your fellow Nazi sympathizer, Tailgunner Joe. He
defended the perpetrators of the Malmedy massacre the way you cozy up
to the National Alliance.
Christopher Morton
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:55:45 +0200 (MET DST), nob...@REPLAY.COM (Shawn
Smith of Austin, Texas) wrote:
>Notice Snorts never says anything bad about R. Knauer (Nazi Bob)
>even when he calls a Jewish poster a "Talmudic Satan-worshipping,
>Goyem-hating jewboy."
Notice that SHAWN never condemns Doc Tavish or "Our Hero", even when
they post DOZENS of anti-Semitic messages?
Notice that SHAWN couldn't condemn racial concentration camps for ANY
reason, under ANY circumstances.
>Snorts approves of Nazi Bob's hatred of Jews.
SHAWN approves of the National Alliance.
Of course given Shawn's ADMITTED forging of quotes, who'd be stupid
enough to take HIS word for what ANYBODY said, about ANYTHING?
Christopher Morton
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:24:40 +0200 (MET DST), nob...@REPLAY.COM (Shawn
Smith of Austin, Texas) wrote:
>>Speaking of Jew-hating SHAWN, do you agree with
>
>your friend R. Knauer (Nazi Bob)?
>
>Not one bit.
We'd have to know whether he's an anti-Semite or not first. He might
be the biggest Nazi in the world... just nobody with any brains would
take YOUR word for it... especially given your TWO admissions of quote
forgery just today.
It's a good thing you weren't a witness for the prosecution at
Nuremberg, SHAWN.
>You never criticize his anti-Semitism. Is that because he is against
>gun control? Do you ever stop kissing bigot butt in pursuit of your
>gun fetish?
Now, SHAWN exactly how many times have you condemned ANY Nazi in
usenet?
How many times have you condemned racial concentration camps, SHAWN?
How many times have you NOT laughed at Black children burning to
death?
Try not to trip over that beam in your eye, SHAWN.
Christopher Morton
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 03:44:08 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 01:47:42 GMT, cm...@nwohio.com (Christopher
>Morton) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 21:43:44 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>>
>>>>So Klansman, you believe that the neo-Nazis of the National Alliance
>>>>are "polite and honest" too?
>>>
>>>Lets see that quote with full headers.
>>
>>So, Klansman, you believe that the neo-Nazis of the National Alliance
>>are "polite and honest" too?
>
>No. I say you are leaving out the part where Rack said "Compared to
>Chris Morton the National Alliance is polite and honest.
So, Klansman, you believe that the neo-Nazis of the National Alliance
are "polite and honest" too?
Klansman, you ALWAYS leave out the part about the National Alliance
posting NOTHING but the "blood libel", calls for genocide and
Holocaust revisionism. What do *I* post? David Dahlman's real name,
and the town in which he lives, Seabrook, Texas.
The conclusion is inescapable. You and he believe that using his real
name is WORSE than incitement to GENOCIDE.
You believe that naming his town is LESS honest than Holocaust
revisionism.
Tell me Klansman, do you get your brown shirts fitted or do you wear
them off the rack?
Christopher Morton
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:41:56 +0200 (MET DST), nob...@REPLAY.COM
(Anonymous) wrote:
>In article <6hp1it$2...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>
> <volt...@geocities.com> wrote:
>>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 01:47:42 GMT, cm...@nwohio.com (Christopher
>>Morton) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 21:43:44 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>>So Klansman, you believe that the neo-Nazis of the National Alliance
>>>>>are "polite and honest" too?
>>>>
>>>>Lets see that quote with full headers.
>>>
>>>So, Klansman, you believe that the neo-Nazis of the National Alliance
>>>are "polite and honest" too?
>>
>>No. I say you are leaving out the part where Rack said "Compared to
>>Chris Morton the National Alliance is polite and honest.
>>
>>Lets see the whole quote with full headers, Snorts.
>>
>>You have been talking about headers.
>>
>>Show us you can read one and post it.
>>
>>Or are you just a lying little gun whore who is all talk and bluster?
>
>Let's play Snorts' little game.
>
>"I call for genocide against the Jews and deny the Holocaust"
>
> Christopher "Snorts" Morton <cm...@nwohio.com> in
> <353b93d8....@enews.newsguy.com>
>
>(This is out of context, but it is just as accurate as Snorts
>saying that Voltaire thinks the National Alliance is his IDEOLOGICAL
>SOURCE or that Rack Jite considers the National Alliance
>"polite and honest.")
>>
>>>>I have seen the whole quote. Your name was mentioned as being less
>>>>polite and honest than the scumbag Nazis.
>>>
>>>So, Klansman, you believe that the neo-Nazis of the National Alliance
>>>are "polite and honest" too? When did you decide that using Dahlman's
>>>real name was worse than calling for genocide?
>>
>>Back to reality, Snorts. Let's see the whole quote with headers or you
>>are proven to be a mega-liar once again.
>
>Don't you know that Snorts calls for genocide against Jews and denies
>the Holocaust? He said so!
>
>
>"I call for genocide against the Jews and deny the Holocaust"
>
> Christopher "Snorts" Morton <cm...@nwohio.com> in
> <353b93d8....@enews.newsguy.com>
>
>(This is out of context, but it is just as accurate as Snorts
>saying that Voltaire thinks the National Alliance is his IDEOLOGICAL
>SOURCE or that Rack Jite considers the National Alliance
>"polite and honest.")
>>
>>>>I wonder why you don't mention that Snorts?
>>>
>>>Wonder why you think using Dahlman's real name is worse than genocide
>>>and Holocaust revisionism, Klansman?
>>
>>Got a quote with full headers where I have said that either, Snorts?
>>
>>You little gun whore strawmen won't work.
>>
>>You are just spanking the monkey as usual.
>
>His "monkey" is a battered animal. :)
>
>>
>>>>>Not surprising since you've declared them your IDEOLOGICAL SOURCE.
>>>>
>>>>Lets see that one as well, Snorts. Your lies are easy to answer.
>>>
>>>When did you become ashamed of your IDEOLOGICAL SOURCE.
>>
>>Since I never said it, never.
>>
>>Another Morton lie in action.
>
>Here is some Snortin' Morton medicine.
>
>"I call for genocide against the Jews and deny the Holocaust"
>
> Christopher "Snorts" Morton <cm...@nwohio.com> in
> <353b93d8....@enews.newsguy.com>
>
>(This is out of context, but it is just as accurate as Snorts
>saying that Voltaire thinks the National Alliance is his IDEOLOGICAL
>SOURCE or that Rack Jite considers the National Alliance
>"polite and honest.")
>>
>>For more of Chris Morton's flights of fantasy see:
>>
>>http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/morton.htm
>
>Yucky.
>>
>>>>I have been all over Nazi Bob and the rest of the bigots on these
>>>>groups for over two years.
>>
>>>Funny how you haven't been all over Milton Kleim, Larry Jansen or Doc
>>>Tavish. Too much commonality of belief and purpose I guess.
>>
>>I am not on an area with them Chris. It is hard to post to someone who
>>you do not read.
>>
>>Why don't you share your posts to them with us.
>>
>>I'd be willing to bet you are swapping gun stories and kissing their
>>reactionary asses based on your common gun worship.
>
>He doesn't ever criticize Nazi Bob.
>>
>>They love guns just like you do.
>
>Snorts is so easy to please.
>>
>>>>But since I am a moderate on the issue of gun control you attack me.
>>>
>>>When did wanting to disarm Blacks and create a White monopoly on the
>>>means of armed force become "moderate"?
>>
>>Another Morton strawman in action.
>>
>>You really are a moron, Snorts.
>>
>>But we knew that.
>
>"I call for genocide against the Jews and deny the Holocaust"
>
> Christopher "Snorts" Morton <cm...@nwohio.com> in
> <353b93d8....@enews.newsguy.com>
>
>(This is out of context, but it is just as accurate as Snorts
>saying that Voltaire thinks the National Alliance is his IDEOLOGICAL
>SOURCE or that Rack Jite considers the National Alliance
>"polite and honest.")
>>
>>>>You are the biggest joke on these groups, Snorts.
>>>
>>>Certainly I don't have the same credibility with you that the National
>>>Alliance does.
>>
>>So let's see the proof, Snorts.
>>
>>Or are you just going to make your usual accusations that you can't
>>back up?
>>
>>Back on your knees, Snorts. Your NRA big house is burning again!
>
>"I call for genocide against the Jews and deny the Holocaust"
>
> Christopher "Snorts" Morton <cm...@nwohio.com> in
> <353b93d8....@enews.newsguy.com>
>
>(This is out of context, but it is just as accurate as Snorts
>saying that Voltaire thinks the National Alliance is his IDEOLOGICAL
>SOURCE or that Rack Jite considers the National Alliance
>"polite and honest.")
>>
>> Jim
>>
>
>
>Spartacus
>
>"Chris 'Snorts' Morton : Goebbels with a gun in his ass." - P. Begala
>
>=======================================================================
>On Tue, 07 Apr 1998 20:41:56 GMT, rckt...@ix.netcom.com (R. Knauer)
>sounded just like cm...@nwohio.com (Chris "Snorts" Morton) when he
>wrote:
>} Amazing how many Intelligent Jews (tm) own guns, eh.
>
>} I recall a local TV news story where they featured the Montgomery
>} County militia (north of Houston). They interviewed some little cretin
>} at the B'nai B'rith ADL hoplophobe organization, who sat there on
>} camera and foamed at the mouth about how jews supposedly hate guns.
>} Then the news reporter cuts to a segment where he interviewed the
>} actual militia leader himself.
>
>} Yeah, you guessed it - he is a Jew.
>
>} I almost spit water halfway across the room when I saw that. One of
>} our local TV reporters suckered that little piece of shit hoplophobe
>} into making a complete ass of himself in front of a million viewers,
>} some of them Jewish.
>
>} Bob Knauer
>========================================================================
>On April 1, 1998, rckt...@ix.netcom.com (R. Knauer)
>sounded just like cm...@nwohio.com (Chris "Snorts" Morton) when he
>wrote:
>} Collier, by his own admission, is a Talmudic Satan-worshipping,
>} Goyem-hating jewboy. His kind nailed Jesus Christ to a cross, and his
>} kind weeps not. What else can you expect from him, but more of the
>} same?
>
>} It is the agenda of Talmudic Satan-worshipping Goyem-hating jews to
>} disarm the animal Goyem. How else do you explain the incredible bias
>} of jews in America towards gun owners. It is epidemic.
>======================================================================
Christopher Morton
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 19:50:43 +0200 (MET DST), nob...@REPLAY.COM (Shawn
Smith of Austin, Texas) wrote:
>In article <353f964c....@enews.newsguy.com>
>Christopher Morton <cm...@nwohio.com> wrote:
>>On Sat, 18 Apr 1998 13:58:36 GMT, rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack
>>Jite) wrote:
>>>As Zundel is Canadian, the top "kike" hating, Holocaust Revisionist,
>>>anti-Semite on the net from America is Matt Giwer, a proud member of
>>>the Libertarian Party... And like so many other Libertarians, Billy
>>>Beck for example, he also reigns supreme in pushing out point blank
>>>death threats. You should be proud...
>>
>>Isn't it strange how [name and address] CONVENIENTLY
>>ignores the National Alliance, including Milton Kleim, Les Griswold,
>>Larry Jansen, Mark Craig, Evelyn Hill, Doc Tavish and "Our Hero".
>>
>>Maybe it's not so strange when you consider that [name]'s called
>>those REAL Nazis, "polite and honest".
>
>
>"I call for genocide against the Jews and deny the Holocaust"
>
> Christopher "Snorts" Morton <cm...@nwohio.com> in
> <353b93d8....@enews.newsguy.com>
>
>(This is out of context, but it is just as accurate as Snorts
>saying that Voltaire thinks the National Alliance is his IDEOLOGICAL
>SOURCE or that Rack Jite considers the National Alliance
>"polite and honest.")
>
Lone_Wolf
#In article <6hm54u$k...@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>,
#TXJo...@ix.netcom.com(*John_Johnson*) wrote:
#> In <landerr-ya0240800...@news.inil.com>
#> lan...@inil.com (Dick Lander) writes:
#>
#> > In article <1998042219...@basement.replay.com>,
#> > nob...@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) wrote:
#> [snip]
#> >> Lick and Snorts cheered Patty when he used the John_Johnson
#> >> account to put up a direct map to the front door.
#> >
#> > Really, Shawnie? Perhaps you'd like to repost the article where
#> > I said that? (No, I don't mean FORGE it, like you usually do.)
#>
#> Furthermore, `Anon'/`Shawn'/WHOEVER: *NO* *ONE* uses *MY*
#> ISP account but *ME*.
#Shawn may be able to make some of the lurkers wonder what's going on, but
#most of us know it's just more of his never-ending smokescreen.
#> Interesting that you failed and/or refused to respond to
#> my posting of the *REAL* source of such data: PublicData.Com
#> there in the D/FW area of Texas.
#> No: instead you have to go off `Half-Cocked'; creating your
#> own `E-Mail Conspiracy' theory.
#> If you will notice; neither Dick Lander nor myself make
#> any attempt to hide who we are: and as I wrote earlier; if
#> you have access to PublicData.Com you can easily find the
#> address for "John_Johnson" here in Texas (several *HUNDRED*
#> of us, in fact: more than 200 of us even have listed phone
#> numbers -- myself included <g>).
#> Feel free to use Four11.Com or InfoSeek.Com to look me
#> up: I'm there. <g>
#> Then you can use YAHOO! Maps or InfoSeek Maps to draw
#> a `map to my front door': I'm not all that hard to find. <g>
#Maybe these guys don't have any life outside of Usenet, you know? They
#spend all their time hopping from one newsgroup to another and never do
#anything else. Or maybe they haven't figured out how to use a web browser
#yet. Jeez.
#There are all sorts of resources on the Web to look people up; I used
#Switchboard to find two frat brothers from college whom I hadn't seen for
#over 20 years, with nothing more than a name and an idea of the state where
#I suspected they might be living now. (And a bit of luck. :-) )
#I have a hard time believing these guys are this naive. Their bleating
#seems more like another lame attempt to accuse their opponents of stalking,
#when they know damn well the info is there for the taking. Get a clue,
#anti-gun weenies: even if we wanted to know where you live, you think we'd
#risk prison or worse to dispatch one of you disingenuous milquetoasts?
#ROFL!! I wouldn't waste 158 grains of lead like that, and no one I know
#would either.
of course not, they're not worth the $.50 it'd cost to shoot them.
James
#* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
#Richard W. (Dick) Lander; sportsman,
#Macintosh devotee, proponent
#of personal liberty.
#<http://www.inil.com/users/landerr/>
#* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
#"[Assault weapons'] menacing looks, coupled with the public's
#confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic
#assault weapons--anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to
#be a machine gun--can only increase the chance of public support for
#restrictions on these weapons."
#--Josh Sugarmann, executive director of New Right Watch and spokesman
#for the National Coalition to Ban Handguns,"Assault Weapons and
#Accessories in America," policy report of New Right Watch and the
#Education Fund to End Handgun Violence, September 1988
Christopher Morton
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 19:52:38 +0200 (MET DST), nob...@REPLAY.COM
(Anonymous) wrote:
>In article <353ff627....@enews.newsguy.com>
>Christopher Morton <cm...@nwohio.com> wrote:
>>On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:20:30 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>>
>>>What Rack said was that even the Nationalist Alliance scum was "more"
>>>polite and honest than Chris Morton. Read a few of his rants and you
>>>will see why.
>>
>>
>>Here's [name]'s schtick:
>>
>>To [name and address], it's one thing to call for the
>>extermination of every Jew living today and to deny the Holocaust; but
>>to use his real name, that's EVIL.
>
>"I call for genocide against the Jews and deny the Holocaust"
>
> Christopher "Snorts" Morton <cm...@nwohio.com> in
> <353b93d8....@enews.newsguy.com>
>
>(This is out of context, but it is just as accurate as Snorts
>saying that Voltaire thinks the National Alliance is his IDEOLOGICAL
>SOURCE or that Rack Jite considers the National Alliance
>"polite and honest.")
>>
>>
*John_Johnson*
In <1998042419...@basement.replay.com> nob...@REPLAY.COM
(`Anonymous Alcoholic') writes:
> In article <6hmod2$o...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>
> Rack Jite <rack...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>> Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever
>> it was TXJo...@ix.netcom.com(*John_Johnson*) was saying...
>>
>>*> Ask Offier Obie what happens when you post the Drivers Licence
>>*> number of a liberal on these groups.
>>
>>* Simple, Jim Ed: *NOTHING*! (and until you posted this message,
>>* *NO* *ONE* even *KNEW* what that eight-digit number *WAS*!!!
>>* "Smooth Move; MaGoo"!!! <vbg>).
>>
>> That I remember! :) But lately I been hearing you posted a map
>> to what you say is my house? Come on... Really?
>
> He did.
Posted one to the front door of "My Old House" (sorry 'bout
that, Bob Vila <g>) as well: when your gonna come visit?
[snip]
> Why? Because Patrick L. Humphrey of Rice University has put up that
> supposed real name thousands of times for 15 years,...
Not `supposed': David Dahlman/Rack Jite/Muy Groso is not as
good as he thinks he is at covering his electronic tracks he
leaves all over `the Ether.'
David FULLER Dahlman writes articles as `Ross FULLER'; then places
a *glowing* review of what he himself wrote; containing a direct
reference to one of the many `handles':
"...other than a one page preface from the editor, Mr. Ross Fuller
(sometimes known as Muy Groso, and there lies part of the story),..."
<http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/soapbox.htm>
he himself uses:
"Posting a message on the net with your name on it, is like putting
your phone number on the bathroom wall of every bus station
on the continent." Muy Groso - 1988
<http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/joy.htm>
on his own Web site; then he goes on to point to *EXACTLY* the
town where lives:
"CONSERVATIVELY INCORRECT - POB 845 - Seabrook, TX 77586"
<http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/joy.htm>
apparently oblivious that Mailing Lists of addresses and P.O. Box
numbers/holders are sold *EVERY* *DAY* to, from and by mass marketers.
> Could "John Johnson" (if he isn't Patty under an alias) make this map
> if he didn't know where the house was? Could "John Johnson" find out
> where the house was if Patty didn't put up the supposed real name
> and give hints where the guy lived?
That's why it's called "The Information Superhighway", 'AA':
you better get off on the Frontage Road if you don't want to
become `Liberal Road Kill'. (no euphemism or `Death Threats'
intended nor implied!).
> I looked on yahoo and didn't find any "Rack Jite" in the phone
> listings. If Patty didn't put up the supposed real name, nobody
> would know anything more than "Rack Jite."
You just have to know *how* to look:
<http://bigyellow.four11.com/cgi-bin/Four11Main?PhoneDetail&Offset=6652
&Id=12&NameCount=&LastName=dahlman&FirstName=&City=seabrook&Street=&Sta
e=TX&Detail=D_000&Template=by.t&Mode=&SmartName=on&HasSmartName=&FormId
,234,2,377FB00,3F70FA11?SearchSource=Home>
> How could "John Johnson" make a map without the assistance of
> one obsessed loser working for Rice University named Patrick L.
> Humphrey?
Simple, 'AA': DejaNews; TAHOO'; Excite; Four11.Com; PublicData.Com;
Thomas Register; etc.
The world runs on information. Better learn to "Run with the Big
Dogs"; or get run over *by* them.
If any good `hacker' wanted to (and I couldn't `hack' my way out
of a paper bag if my life depended on it! <g>), they would have no
trouble `cracking' your `Anonymous' handle and tracking you right
back to where you live.
[snip]
>> "All honorable men of good character who may be lucky
>> enough to get a BJ, not only refrain from pointing
>> the finger, but lie about it if asked." Father Jite
>> Conservatively Incorrect ----> http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/
>
> Spartacus
"I knew Spartacus; he was a friend of mine: and you're no
Spartacus!"
--John Johnson/TX
"To its committed members (the Democratic Party) was still the party
of heart, humanity, and justice, but to those removed a few paces it
looked like Captain Hook's crew--ambulance-chasing lawyers, rapacious
public policy grants persons, civil rights gamesmen, ditzy-brained
movie stars, fat-assed civil servant desk squatters, recovering
alcoholics, recovering wife-beaters, recovering child-buggers, and
so forth and so on, a grotesque line-up of ill-mannered, self-pitying,
caterwauling freeloaders banging their tin cups on the pavement
demanding handouts."
--Columnist Nicholas von Hoffman
The Washington Post (11-12-94)
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart.
If you're 30 and not a conservative, you have no brains."
--Sir Winston Churchill
"Conservatives are afraid the people WON'T understand;
Liberals are afraid the people WILL understand!!"
"Democrats and Republicans both want to take your money.
The difference is that Democrats want to take it and split
it with people who don't and won't work, while Republicans
want to take it from you, take their share, and give the
rest back to you. Both methods stink, but the Republican
version is merely extortion, while the Democratic version
is robbery."
--Commonsenz
Lone_Wolf
In <ErwD...@iglou.com> bath...@iglou2.iglou.com (Tim Brown) writes:
# <Eru1uJ.5E7@i <EruIC...@iglou.com> <6hoaoo$eil$1...@gypsy.cad.gatech.edu>
#gt6...@gypsy.cad.gatech.edu (Lone_Wolf) writes:
#>In <EruIC...@iglou.com> bath...@iglou1.iglou.com (Tim Brown) writes:
#>#pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey) writes:
#>#>Looks like you're in for more than you expected, then -- because I have quite
#>#>a few people who can testify that I was nowhere near wherever your house is at
#>#>any time in December.
#>#>If you're going to attempt to libel me, I guess you'll have no problem with
#>#>being responsible for your actions, will you?
#>#Then how do you account for the fact that if you erase the beard on your
#>#picture and add a ball cap, you look exactly like the assailant, who in
#>#fact muttered something about the Internet as he swung his magazine rack?
#># Damn, I'm a good lawyer!
#>#>--PLH, who has been in Cincinnati four times in the past 40 years...and not
#>#>only doesn't know where Tim lives, doesn't _want_ to know
#>#Then how do you account for the fact that you knew exactly where the
#>#placement of a local freeway would work best in plowing down my house?
#>Are you the Tim Brown of Tim Brown
#> XXXX Allendale Dr #X
#> Cincinnati,OH 45209-1420
#> (513)272- XXXX
#>Or Timothy Brown
#> XXXX Beechwood Rd
#> Cincinnati,OH 45244-1038
#> (513)576-XXXX
#>I guess I could find out, if I wanted to. Amazing what a few searches online
#>will do for you.
#>Of course, do you REALLY live in Ohio, since you talk so much about issues
#>in Kentucky? Especially since you mention having been born in 1973 and
#>living 24 years in Highland Heights... Strange, your 25th birthday hasn't
#>arrived yet, according to your web page...
#I sure hope Georgia Institute of Technology doesn't require you to take
#geography, because you'd fail. Any 2nd-grade imbecile can tell you that
#most of the neighboring urban areas around Cincinnati are in Kentucky.
# Read a map. Or better yet, read.
Sorry, I got an 'A' in map reading and land navigation. My instructor was
Maj. Thomas Holt (Captain at the time), USA (retired now) IN. I took the
class in the spring of 1990. The fact that I didn't BOTHER calling up
any maps, or reading the remaining listings for Tim Brown in the online
white pages doesn't mean I couldn't if it was really important to me (however,
I have a life, which is why I don't have an online newsletter whining about
my principle in middle school, or alleging that I was tortured, bragging
about being thrown out of four schools, etc). In fact (and this is a fact,
not a threat, I actually find you a classic example of an unmedicated
mentally ill person and pity you), you provided MORE than enough information
on your web page and in newsgroup postings that if someone DID have intent
of doing you harm, they could EASILY locate you. You've told them where you
grew up, went to school, work, etc...
But don't worry, I suspect the vast majority of the people who might read
this either pity you or are having a nice laugh at what an ass you've shown
yourself to be. But you're welcome to throw me in one of your rants on your
web page, if it makes you feel better. Heck, tell me if you do, I could use
another good laugh. If it's good enough, I'll point my sysadmin at it, he's
usually too busy to read talk.politics.guns, although he occasionally shows
up on rec.guns. We both had a good chuckle out of the last time some net.kook
started whining that I was infringing upon his constitutional right to not be
ridiculed.
But keep up the good work at the library, maybe they'll let you start shelving
books if you continue to do well. Me, I'm just hoping my pager doesn't go off
this weekend, babysitting a few million dollars worth of computer equipment
that generates millions of dollars of revenue a day can be a pain at times,
which is why I enjoy reading stuff like the junk on your web page so much :-)
No mental effort required, just lots of good laughs at the warped world view.
Hell, maybe I should print out some of your stuff, I'm hoping Newt will be
at breakfast next weekend, we can both get a good laugh out of it :-)
James
#--
#bath...@iglou.com http://members.iglou.com/bathroom Tantrum 95.7 FM
#Read THE LAST WORD before the Kenton County Public LIEbrary censors it!
#Support true Internet free speech -- Stop the Cabal and 'Net Nazis!
#*** Gatewood Galbraith for Governor 1999 ***
Rack Jite
Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
*>>A true 'Net stalker!
*>>I wonder if he had anything to do with that guy who showed up at
*>>my house in December and beat me with a magazine stand.If there's a
*>>picture of Humphrey Dumphrey, I'll look at it and see if it was him.
* Good god man, who would need a map? Just ask anyone in the Cinci area
*where the screeching paranoid kook is and I'm sure they'll know the
*way. Of course, your local guide just might have a question for you,
*such as why in the hell would anyone want to go out of their way to
*visit the village idiot?
Oops! We got Humprhey bragging all the time here he came by my house
at least 4 times. He says I am an idiot and parnoid. So your question
is as fucked up as you are. :)
Cad
>
> <EruI7...@iglou.com> <353F20...@usa.net> <ErvsD...@iglou.com>
<354009...@usa.net>
>
>Lou Minatti <lou-m...@usa.net> writes:
>
>>Tim Brown wrote:
>>>
>>> Lou Minatti <lou-m...@usa.net> writes:
>>>
>>> >And I'm sure Patrick is really stinging after being flamed by a
Usenet
>>> >Kook Of The Month winner!
>>>
>>> I didn't know William Mullin or Wayne Strang flamed him.
>
>>As far as I know, they didn't. Just you, Tim Brown, winner of the
>>infamous Usenet Kook of the Month award. Take a bow, Tim!
>
>>For some splendid examples of why Tim won this stellar award, see
>>alt.usenet.kooks
>
>Voopvoopavoop WRONG! The only award I won was the fake awards handed
out
>by some fascist dickweed named Robbie Honerkamp. It is generally
agreed
>that Honerkamp is a fraud, and nobody has voted in any of his contests
in
>3 months.
>--
Uh oh. Little Timmy's nose is growing again...
volt...@geocities.com
On 24 Apr 1998 23:59:00 -0400, gt6...@gypsy.cad.gatech.edu
(Lone_Wolf) wrote:
>In <danderr-ya0240800...@news.inil.com> dan...@inil.com
>(Lick Dander) writes:
>#I have a hard time believing these guys are this naive. Their bleating
>#seems more like another lame attempt to accuse their opponents of stalking,
>#when they know damn well the info is there for the taking. Get a clue,
>#anti-gun weenies: even if we wanted to know where you live, you think we'd
>#risk prison or worse to dispatch one of you disingenuous milquetoasts?
>#ROFL!! I wouldn't waste 158 grains of lead like that, and no one I know
>#would either.
>
>
>of course not, they're not worth the $.50 it'd cost to shoot them.
More threats from the gun whores.
Freud was right about them.
volt...@geocities.com
On 24 Apr 1998 23:16:49 -0500, aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anthony
Garcia) wrote:
>In article <landerr-ya0240800...@news.inil.com>,
>Dick Lander <lan...@inil.com> wrote:
>>In article <6hedn4$cot$1...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>,
>>aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anthony Garcia) wrote:
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>> Mr. Morton:
>>>
>>> 1.) If "Rack Jite" chooses to use a pseudonym on USENET, that's
>>> perfectly okay. It's inappropriate for you to attempt to "out" him by
>>> posting what you think is his real name and home city.
>>
>>If he hides behind a pseudonym in order to threaten and harrass those who
>>don't agree with him--which he has done repeatedly--I find it perfectly
>>appropriate to deny him that shield and make him responsible for his
>>statements and actions, along with anyone else who indulges in such
>>behavior in a public forum.
>
>How does republishing Mr. Jite's alleged real name and address make
>him more "responsible" for his statements?
>
>Mr. Humphrey or Mr. Morton, please feel free to answer this as well.
>
>Mssrs. Shawn and Kennemure, I already know your take on this question,
>but please feel free to post it yet again. And again. And again...
>
>Thanks,
>-Anthony Garcia
>aga...@neosoft.com
THE JOY OF HANDLES or EVERYTHING YOU ALWAYS WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT ME
(but have no right to ask)-Mahatma Kane Jeeves and David Lescohier
We should never so entirely avoid danger as to appear irresolute and
cowardly. But, at the same time, we should avoid unnecessarily
exposing ourselves to danger, than which nothing can be more foolish.
Cicero
Do you trust me? If you participate in computer conferencing, and
you use your real name, then you'd better.
"Why?", you ask. "What can you do with my name?" To start with,
given that and your origin line, I can probably look you up in your
local phone book, and find out where you live. Even if you are
unlisted, there are ways to locate you based on your name. If you
own any property, or pay any utility bills, your address is a matter
of public record. Do you have children in the public schools? It
would be easy to find out. But that's just the beginning.
Who am I? If I don't post, you might not even know I exist. I could
be on your local Police Department, or an agent working with the
IRS, or some federal law-enforcement agency. I could be a member of
some fanatical hate group, or criminal organization. I might even
be a former Nixon White-House staffer!
I could be that pyromaniacal teenager you flamed last weekend, for
posting a step-by-step description of how he made plastic explosive
in his high-school chem lab. He seemed kind of mad.
But you're an upstanding citizen; you have nothing to hide. So why
not use your name on the net? Trust me. There's nothing to worry
about.
Let us make one thing perfectly clear here at the outset: We do NOT
challenge the need or the right of sysops to know the identities of
their users! But we do believe that a sysop who collects user names
has a serious responsibility to protect that information. This
means making sure that no one has access to the data without a legal
warrant, and it certainly means not pressuring users to broadcast
their real names in widespread public forums such as conferences.
Among media professionals and celebrities, on the other hand, the
risks of conducting one's business in front of a public audience are
all too familiar. If the size of one's audience becomes
sufficiently large, one must assume that examples of virtually every
personality type will be included: police and other agents of
various governments, terrorists, murderers, rapists, religious
fanatics, the mentally ill, robbers and con artists, et al ad
infinitum. It must also be assumed that almost anything you do, no
matter how innocuous, could inspire at least one person, somewhere,
to harbor ill will toward you.
Rack Jite
Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
*>> 1.) If "Rack Jite" chooses to use a pseudonym on USENET, that's
*>> perfectly okay. It's inappropriate for you to attempt to "out" him by
*>> posting what you think is his real name and home city.
*>If he hides behind a pseudonym in order to threaten and harrass those who
*>don't agree with him--which he has done repeatedly--I find it perfectly
*>appropriate to deny him that shield and make him responsible for his
*>statements and actions, along with anyone else who indulges in such
*>behavior in a public forum.
*How does republishing Mr. Jite's alleged real name and address make
*him more "responsible" for his statements?
*Mr. Humphrey or Mr. Morton, please feel free to answer this as well.
*Mssrs. Shawn and Kennemure, I already know your take on this question,
*but please feel free to post it yet again. And again. And again...
*Thanks,
*-Anthony Garcia
*aga...@neosoft.com
Tony! Gee... :)
Look, I never harassed or threatened anybody, I am none of the people
he says I am, I am not a racist or a child molestor an anti-semite or
a member or the National Alliance... Gee...
These are pathological liars who will not tolerate hearing what they
dont like hearing is all. So they will go to any low ball unethical
means to try and either destroy someones credibility or intimidate
them into silence. IT WORKS. But not on Voltaire or I. Which is why
we're are the center of their crap. Like most, we have not run away
and hid under our beds. We have decided to fight these slimey little
bastards.
So on and on they will go NO MATTER WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT! :)
Yer new to this medium, you have no hope in hell of getting these
netscabs to do what you want them to do! NOT A CHANCE IN HELL. :)
They are sorry asocial little ying-yangs whose only real freedom and
power lie in their modems... And they are gonna get their rocks off
and their $20 bucks a month's worth. :)
Rack Jite
Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
*How many times have you condemned racial concentration camps, SHAWN?
Ouu... Couldn't pass this up. Lets watch you go on this one!
"America putting the Japanese in concentration camps for the duration
of WW2 was wrong. The Nazis putting the Jews in concentration camps
was evil." Rack Jite...
Go snorty go! :)
Dick Lander
In article <1998042419...@basement.replay.com>, nob...@REPLAY.COM
(Anonymous) wrote:
> In article <landerr-ya0240800...@news.inil.com>
> Dick Lander <lan...@inil.com> wrote:
(snip)
> >Maybe these guys don't have any life outside of Usenet, you know? They
> >spend all their time hopping from one newsgroup to another and never do
> >anything else. Or maybe they haven't figured out how to use a web browser
> >yet. Jeez.
> >
> >There are all sorts of resources on the Web to look people up; I used
> >Switchboard to find two frat brothers from college whom I hadn't seen for
> >over 20 years, with nothing more than a name and an idea of the state where
> >I suspected they might be living now. (And a bit of luck. :-) )
> >
> >I have a hard time believing these guys are this naive. Their bleating
> >seems more like another lame attempt to accuse their opponents of stalking,
> >when they know damn well the info is there for the taking.
>
> You right-wing racists forgot one thing. You can't find someone on
> the web or in the phonebook without a name to start with.
>
> Rack never posted his "real name" on Usenet. Patrick L. Humphrey of
> Rice University did this thousands of times.
>
> Now with Nazis putting up full maps to the guy's supposed front door
> we have to ask how could they do this without Patty?
>
> What will you do when Patty starts putting up the names and locations
> of abortion doctors and some Paul Hill wannabe starts putting up
> full maps to their doors?
>
> Will you say, "the info is there for the taking"?
Yup.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Richard W. (Dick) Lander; sportsman,
Macintosh devotee, proponent
of personal liberty.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"The point is that tools are always going to be used for certain things
we don't find pleasing. And it's ultimately the wisdom of people, not
the tools themselves, that is going to determine whether or not these
things are used in positive, productive ways."
--Steve Jobs - Feb. 1985
Christopher Morton
>Look, I never harassed or threatened anybody, I am none of the people
You're a liar, that's a lie!
You're a liar, that's a lie!
You're a liar, that's a lie!
Yep, that's the Dahlman mantra.
Too bad he's a liar and it's a lie....
Christopher Morton
On Sat, 25 Apr 1998 04:54:37 GMT, volt...@geocities.com wrote:
>THE JOY OF HANDLES or EVERYTHING YOU ALWAYS WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT ME
>(but have no right to ask)-Mahatma Kane Jeeves and David Lescohier
Cross burners don't usually identify themselves either... oh wait,
they're racist cowards TOO.
Christopher Morton
>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
>cm...@nwohio.com (Christopher Morton) was saying...
>
>
>*How many times have you condemned racial concentration camps, SHAWN?
>
>Ouu... Couldn't pass this up. Lets watch you go on this one!
>
>"America putting the Japanese in concentration camps for the duration
>of WW2 was wrong. The Nazis putting the Jews in concentration camps
>was evil." Rack Jite...
>
>Go snorty go! :)
So you're claiming you're SHAWN?
Dick Lander
In article <6hro3h$o6a$1...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>,
aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anthony Garcia) wrote:
> In article <landerr-ya0240800...@news.inil.com>,
> Dick Lander <lan...@inil.com> wrote:
> >In article <6hedn4$cot$1...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>,
> >aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anthony Garcia) wrote:
> >
> >(snip)
> >
> >> Mr. Morton:
> >>
> >> 1.) If "Rack Jite" chooses to use a pseudonym on USENET, that's
> >> perfectly okay. It's inappropriate for you to attempt to "out" him by
> >> posting what you think is his real name and home city.
> >
> >If he hides behind a pseudonym in order to threaten and harrass those who
> >don't agree with him--which he has done repeatedly--I find it perfectly
> >appropriate to deny him that shield and make him responsible for his
> >statements and actions, along with anyone else who indulges in such
> >behavior in a public forum.
>
> How does republishing Mr. Jite's alleged real name and address make
> him more "responsible" for his statements?
First, I haven't published "Mr. Jite's" address other than reposting it in
followups, maybe. I don't care where he lives; I have no plans to visit
Texas, and if I did I doubt his home would be on the tour.
As far as his name, Rack has been known by several other names in his
sullied history on Usenet. Shawn has used more than one simultaneously and
actually conducted exchanges *between* his two persona! You tell me--why
would someone continually use different pseudonyms other than to confuse
people? These bozos don't fear for their safety--that's nothing more than a
lame diversion. They use them because it's easier to spew their nonsense
and not be responsible for it. If the heat gets too high, they disappear
and come back with a different name and a clean slate.
I doubt even they believe all of what they say. They're the Usenet
equivalent of crank callers--they participate mainly to piss people off.
That's how they get their jollies. Look at virtually any article by
Kennemur in TPG and you'll find the same thing--he's blaming whomever he's
addressing in the article for whatever gun mishap or violence is in the
news at the moment. Never mind that the person he's addressing deplores the
violence just as much as he does...if you don't agree with him, you're a
"gunloon." BTW, Kennemur has claimed to be a gun owner, but has never
explained why we are "gunloons" but he is not.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Richard W. (Dick) Lander; sportsman,
Macintosh devotee, proponent
of personal liberty.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"The argument that today's National Guardsmen, members of a select
militia, would constitute the only 'persons entitled to keep and bear
arms' has no historical foundation."
Joyce Lee Malcolm, Harvard Law and NEH Fellow, "To Keep and Bear Arms,"
163 (Harvard University Press, 1994)
volt...@geocities.com
On Sat, 25 Apr 1998 23:56:12 -0500, lan...@inil.com (Dick Lander)
wrote:
>In article <6hro3h$o6a$1...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>,
>aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anthony Garcia) wrote:
>
>> In article <landerr-ya0240800...@news.inil.com>,
>> Dick Lander <lan...@inil.com> wrote:
>> >In article <6hedn4$cot$1...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>,
>> >aga...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anthony Garcia) wrote:
>> >
>> >(snip)
>> >
>> >> Mr. Morton:
>> >>
>> >> 1.) If "Rack Jite" chooses to use a pseudonym on USENET, that's
>> >> perfectly okay. It's inappropriate for you to attempt to "out" him by
>> >> posting what you think is his real name and home city.
>> >
>> >If he hides behind a pseudonym in order to threaten and harrass those who
>> >don't agree with him--which he has done repeatedly--I find it perfectly
>> >appropriate to deny him that shield and make him responsible for his
>> >statements and actions, along with anyone else who indulges in such
>> >behavior in a public forum.
>>
>> How does republishing Mr. Jite's alleged real name and address make
>> him more "responsible" for his statements?
>
>First, I haven't published "Mr. Jite's" address other than reposting it in
>followups, maybe. I don't care where he lives; I have no plans to visit
>Texas, and if I did I doubt his home would be on the tour.
Do the Lick Dander Shuffle!
>As far as his name, Rack has been known by several other names in his
>sullied history on Usenet. Shawn has used more than one simultaneously and
>actually conducted exchanges *between* his two persona! You tell me--why
>would someone continually use different pseudonyms other than to confuse
>people? These bozos don't fear for their safety--that's nothing more than a
>lame diversion. They use them because it's easier to spew their nonsense
>and not be responsible for it. If the heat gets too high, they disappear
>and come back with a different name and a clean slate.
Shawn loves the fact that you assholes see him in every quote.
When he gets back on the net you are going to hear about it.
>I doubt even they believe all of what they say. They're the Usenet
>equivalent of crank callers--they participate mainly to piss people off.
>That's how they get their jollies. Look at virtually any article by
>Kennemur in TPG and you'll find the same thing--he's blaming whomever he's
>addressing in the article for whatever gun mishap or violence is in the
>news at the moment. Never mind that the person he's addressing deplores the
>violence just as much as he does...if you don't agree with him, you're a
>"gunloon." BTW, Kennemur has claimed to be a gun owner, but has never
>explained why we are "gunloons" but he is not.
Sure I have Lick. But you keep claiming to have me kill filed even
though you also keep bitching about me answering your posts.
Here you go!
A gun whore is anyone who thinks that guns are what America is all
about. They can be easily spotted by their absolutist view of the
Second Amendment, their paranoid fear of the government and their
total lack of ability to accept the fact that others may disagree with
them in good faith.
The more violent of the species offer posts filled with threats and
general stupidity.
The more irritating types whine and follow others around always
suggesting that they are in some way abnormal because they do not
worship at the Altar of the Holy Firearm.
Gun whores are to be pitied but also watched closely like the violent
sluts they are.
>* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>Richard W. (Dick) Lander;
>Gunwhore
"In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession
or use of a (sawed-off shotgun) at this time has some reasonable
relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated
militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the
right to keep and bear such an instrument."
-- US v. Miller, 1939
"It is clear that the Second Amendment guarantees a
collective rather than an idividual right... [it is' an
erroneous supposition that the Second Amendment is concerned
with the rights of individuals rather than those of the
states."
-- US. vs. Warin, US Court of Appeals, Sixth Circuit, 1976
"The right to keep and bear handguns is not guaranteed by
the Second Amendment."
-- Quilici v. Village of Morton Grove, 695 F.2d 261
(7th Cir.1982) cert. denied, 464 US 863 (1983)
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Dave Thompson
volt...@geocities.com wrote in message
<6huj82$1...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
>
>"In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession
>or use of a (sawed-off shotgun) at this time has some reasonable
>relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated
>militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the
>right to keep and bear such an instrument."
>
> -- US v. Miller, 1939
Speaking only to the possession of use of a sawed-off shotgun.
>
>"It is clear that the Second Amendment guarantees a
>collective rather than an idividual right... [it is' an
>erroneous supposition that the Second Amendment is concerned
>with the rights of individuals rather than those of the
>states."
>
>-- US. vs. Warin, US Court of Appeals, Sixth Circuit, 1976
>
Valid only in the Sixth Circuit
>
>"The right to keep and bear handguns is not guaranteed by
>the Second Amendment."
>
> -- Quilici v. Village of Morton Grove, 695 F.2d 261
> (7th Cir.1982) cert. denied, 464 US 863 (1983)
>
Valid only in the Seventh Circuit
DT
Mitchell Holman
In article <uT7qCvSc9GA.148@upnetnews03>, "Dave Thompson" <bd_th...@email.msn.com> wrote:
}>
}>"It is clear that the Second Amendment guarantees a
}>collective rather than an idividual right... [it is' an
}>erroneous supposition that the Second Amendment is concerned
}>with the rights of individuals rather than those of the
}>states."
}>
}>-- US. vs. Warin, US Court of Appeals, Sixth Circuit, 1976
}>
}Valid only in the Sixth Circuit
}>
}>"The right to keep and bear handguns is not guaranteed by
}>the Second Amendment."
}>
}> -- Quilici v. Village of Morton Grove, 695 F.2d 261
}> (7th Cir.1982) cert. denied, 464 US 863 (1983)
}>
}Valid only in the Seventh Circuit
}
"Valid only in X Circuit"?
Would you like to see more complete list of
upheld gun control laws, covering *all* the circuits?
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U.S. v. Nelson, 859 F.2d 1318 (8th Cir. 1988).
U.S. v. Cody, 460 F.2d 34 (8th Cir. 1972).
U.S. v. Decker, 446 F.2d 164 (8th Cir. 1971).
U.S. v. Synnes, 438 F.2d 764 (8th Cir. 1971),
U.S. v. Oakes, 564 F.2d 384 (10th Cir. 1977),
U.S. v. Swinton, 521 F.2d 1255 (10th Cir. 1975).
U.S. v. Johnson, 497 F.2d 548 (4th Cir. 1974).
U.S. v Bowdach, 414 F. Supp. 1346 (D.S. Fla 1976),
U.S. v. Johnson, Jr., 441 F.2d 1134 (5th Cir. 1971).
Quilici v. Village of Morton Grove, (7th Cir.1982)
U.S. v. McCutcheon, 446 F.2d 133 (7th Cir. 1971).
Stevens v. United States, 440 F.2d 144 (6th Cir 1971).
U.S. v. Day, 476 F.2d 562 (6th Cir. 1973).
U.S. v. Warin, 530 F.2d 103 (6th Cir 1976),
U.S. v. Tot, 131 F.2d 261 (3rd Cir. 1942),
U.S. v. Graves, 554 F.2d 65 (3rd Cir. 1977).
Cases v. United States, 131 F.2d 916 (1st Cir. 1942),
Fresno Rifle v. Van de Kamp, 946 F2d 730 (9th Cir.1992)
Hickman v. Block, (9th Cir. 1996)
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