John Edwards: Obama is symbolic candidate, all rhetoric and no substance
rrto...@excite.com
John & Elizabeth Edwards: What We Like (and Dislike) About Clinton &
Obama
By Sandra Sobieraj Westfall
Originally posted Monday May 05, 2008 05:10 PM EDT
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20197952,00.html
Buck Mulligan
>People Exclusive
>John & Elizabeth Edwards: What We Like (and Dislike) About Clinton &
>Obama
Edwards is an also-ran has-been loser. His opinion doesn't mean shit
any more.
Don Homuth
<bkmul...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Edwards is an also-ran has-been loser. His opinion doesn't mean shit
>any more.
But...
Last time I checked, he hadn't yet released his delegates to the D
National Convention.
Is that significant?
(Clue: Indeed it is. Care to guess why?)
Buck Mulligan
Why are you asking questions and then answering them? Are you lonely,
Don?
H. Kardon
VP cudgel...
H. Kardon
Tragically so it would seem....maybe Katherine has found other interests...
Felix D.
"Buck Mulligan" <bkmul...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:s1fv14ptr5369s3tn...@4ax.com...
"What is the sound of one hand stroking?" Go ahead, ask him: he probably
knows.
Don Homuth
<bkmul...@comcast.net> wrote:
>In talk.politics.guns Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 05 May 2008 18:39:35 -0700, Buck Mulligan
>><bkmul...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Edwards is an also-ran has-been loser. His opinion doesn't mean shit
>>>any more.
>>
>>But...
>>
>>Last time I checked, he hadn't yet released his delegates to the D
>>National Convention.
>>
>>Is that significant?
>>
>>(Clue: Indeed it is. Care to guess why?)
>
>Why are you asking questions and then answering them? Are you lonely,
>Don?
Because it's entertaining to cause Brain Freeze amongst the
politically clueless out there.
Don Homuth
Wrong -- in spades.
lein
Or more simply, you don't know the answer
Don Homuth
Oh, I do. Ponder what happens at National Conventions, for starters.
You might consider reading up on the rules that the Ds use.
Lots More going on out there than you Experts are aware of.
lein
Oh, we're well aware of the Ds rules that disenfranchise millions of
voters from Florida and Michigan and this retarded Democrat primary
system designed for back room behind the scenes private deals. BTW,
have the Democrats ever finished assigning the Texas delegates yet?
Last I hard it was still being negotiated months after the primary.
lein
Racist
Don Homuth
Good change of subject, though the segue is not particularly subtle.
Alas - it's Not what was being discussed.
Don Homuth
What racial background is Edwards?
Twit!
Bill Shatzer
-snip-
>>Wrong -- in spades.
> Racist
What do YOU call the highest card suit?
Welcome to the ranks of the etymologically ignorant.
Next you can rant 'bout folks using the word "niggardly".
Peace and justice,
Riki Tiki Tavi
Generally your own.
Riki Tiki Tavi
Nope.
Especially now that Richardson sided with Nobama.
Riki Tiki Tavi
Mbwhahahahaa!!!!
Riki Tiki Tavi
> Good change of subject, though the segue is not particularly subtle.
Yours never are...
Riki Tiki Tavi
> What do YOU call the highest card suit?
BACK DOWN, TRAITOR!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"And over 4,000 Americans have paid with their lives for that little
adventure. Plus a half a trillion dollars in national treasure
You might compare that with the number of lives lost on 9-11. Or the
economic injury incurred from that event.
It would have been cheaper in both lives and money to just suffer
another 9-11 every six or seven years.
Peace and justice,"
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Elmo
> lein wrote:
>
> -snip-
>
>>> Wrong -- in spades.
>
>> Racist
>
> What do YOU call the highest card suit?
>
No Trump?
--
"When the doctrine of allegiance to party can utterly up-end a man's moral
constitution and make a temporary fool of him besides, what excuse are you
going to offer for preaching it, teaching it, extending it, perpetuating it?
Shall you say, the best good of the country demands allegiance to party?
Shall you also say it demands that a man kick his truth and his conscience
into the gutter, and become a mouthing lunatic, besides?"
- Mark Twain
lein
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 09:56:37 -0700 (PDT), lein
>
>
>
You brought up reading up on the rules that the Ds use, not me. The
lack of proper rules is germane.
Don Homuth
<boomer_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>On May 6, 10:11 am, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>> On Tue, 6 May 2008 09:56:37 -0700 (PDT), lein
>>
>> >Oh, we're well aware of the Ds rules that disenfranchise millions of
>> >voters from Florida and Michigan and this retarded Democrat primary
>> >system designed for back room behind the scenes private deals. BTW,
>> >have the Democrats ever finished assigning the Texas delegates yet?
>> >Last I hard it was still being negotiated months after the primary.
>>
>> Good change of subject, though the segue is not particularly subtle.
>>
>> Alas - it's Not what was being discussed.
>
>You brought up reading up on the rules that the Ds use, not me. The
>lack of proper rules is germane.
The rules the Ds have for how they handle their primaries are theirs
to live with, just as the Rs are.
Now then -- would you like to discuss the significance of the National
Convention?
lein
Yes, do begin the discussion, we're waiting....
lein
You know damn well the race of the leading D for president, and you
blatantly play the spade card.
Don Homuth
Do the math.
Don Homuth
Hmmm. You apparently Want to seek out some Race Card to play, even
when there is none.
Obama is half white and half black. What "race" is he?
Why would Edwards need a delegate cudgel, supposedly to have himself
picked as a VP candidate?
What is the derivation/etymology of the term "in spades?" Does it
have to do with shovels? Nope. Did it come from discussing a slang
term for AAs? Nope. That would make No sense at all, in any context.
The derivation is from the highest ranked suit of cards in a deck.
You may not Know that, since yours is not a full one.
(There's another incorrect example -- the phrase Balls To The Wall
being used to denote something that's an extreme effort. Many of the
Uninformed seem to believe that it has something to do with male
genitals. It does not. It has to do with aircraft throttles having a
small ball on the top, and when moved forward it/they go right to the
firewall of the cockpit. Hence "balls to the wall.")
Riki Tiki Tavi
Sorry, steam engines preceded airplanes.
You've been trumped again!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=balls+to+the+wall
Steam engines had mechanical regulators that consisted of a pair of
hinged lever arms with a ball on the end of each arm, as the engine sped
up the centrifugal force caused the arms to raise up closing a valve. If
you adjust the regulator so that the arms go to horizontal (with the
balls pointing to the wall) without closing the valve you are not
limiting the speed of the engine.
When the captain called for balls to the wall, we stoked the fire and
pushed the throttle to full.
Don Homuth
<ti...@burning.bright> wrote:
>Don Homuth wrote:
>> (There's another incorrect example -- the phrase Balls To The Wall
>> being used to denote something that's an extreme effort. Many of the
>> Uninformed seem to believe that it has something to do with male
>> genitals. It does not. It has to do with aircraft throttles having a
>> small ball on the top, and when moved forward it/they go right to the
>> firewall of the cockpit. Hence "balls to the wall.")
>
>
>Sorry, steam engines preceded airplanes.
>
>You've been trumped again!
>
>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=balls+to+the+wall
>
>Steam engines had mechanical regulators that consisted of a pair of
>hinged lever arms with a ball on the end of each arm, as the engine sped
>up the centrifugal force caused the arms to raise up closing a valve. If
>you adjust the regulator so that the arms go to horizontal (with the
>balls pointing to the wall) without closing the valve you are not
>limiting the speed of the engine.
>
>When the captain called for balls to the wall, we stoked the fire and
>pushed the throttle to full.
That's the earliest discussion of it, but not the one that popularized
it. That came via pilots in WW2.
lein
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:05:51 -0700 (PDT), lein
>
> >On May 6, 1:02 pm, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
> >> Now then -- would you like to discuss the significance of the National
> >> Convention?
>
> >Yes, do begin the discussion, we're waiting....
>
> Do the math.
Okay, done.
Don Homuth
What did you learn?
Riki Tiki Tavi
Yet apparently that birthed the phrase. Which is what matters.
> That came via pilots in WW2.
So did increased tobacco usage, but cigarettes had been around long
before the war.
lein
Just like your use of "spades", what was once used early on is not the
current meaning. When you were growing up, you had a "gay old time"
watching the Flintstones.
Riki Tiki Tavi
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/
From our August 2001 issue: "Kill your parents!" urged sixties leftist
Bill Ayers, whose father was the chairman of Commonwealth Edison here.
In Ayers's new memoir, Fugitive Days, he reconciles his militant past
with his present identity
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/05/flag-desecration-of-the-day-bill-ayers-stomps-on-old-glory/
Flag desecration of the day: Bill Ayers stomps on Old Glory
By Michelle Malkin • May 5, 2008 07:35 AM
Like the Arizona Republic editorial board put it today: The 60s just
won’t go away.
lein
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:07:15 -0700 (PDT), lein
>
>
>
(what about planes with two/four wing mounted engines?)
Riki Tiki Tavi
I'm betting he still does...
Don Homuth
<boomer_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>Just like your use of "spades", what was once used early on is not the
>current meaning.
Hardly. The use of the term "spades" is anything But current.
And having something "in spades" has no racial referent -- even
currently. On its face, it would make No sense at all in that
context.
>... When you were growing up, you had a "gay old time"
>watching the Flintstones.
Not I, certainly.
Though at a party once, everyone was feeling Gay and Merry.
So they went home.
Don Homuth
What about them would you like to discuss. Re-read the above
paragraph, and it should suffice even for your purposes.
Bill Shatzer
>>Don Homuth wrote:
Probably not the earliest discussion of it - rather what John Ciardi
described as "spook etymology" [1].
http://originsofsayings.blogspot.com/2006/09/balls-to-wall.html
"There are two common misconceptions about the phrase. The first is that
it is a reference to a part of the male anatomy.
The second is that it arose in railroad work. A speed governor on train
engines would have round, metal weights at the end of arms. As the speed
increased, the spinning balls would rise--being perpendicular to the
walls at maximum speed. But there is no evidence to support this story.
No use of the phrase is known to exist prior to the mid-1960s, and all
the early cites are from military aviation.
(Source: Historical Dictionary of American Slang)"
[1] Least lein accuse -me- of racism, I'd point out that the phrase
"spook etymology" is Ciardi's and not mine.
Peace and justice,
Bill Shatzer
-snip-
> Just like your use of "spades", what was once used early on is not the
> current meaning. When you were growing up, you had a "gay old time"
> watching the Flintstones.
The current meaning of the phrase "in spades" differs not a whit from
its original meaning - which only goes back to the 1920s in any event.
And the phrase has nothing whatsoever to do with either digging tools or
derogatory terms for African Americans.
Rather, its ulimate derivation is from the Italian word "spada" meaning
"sword". I'll leave it to the reader to puzzle out the rest of the
derivation.
Peace and justice,
Bill Shatzer
>>(There's another incorrect example -- the phrase Balls To The Wall
>>being used to denote something that's an extreme effort. Many of the
>>Uninformed seem to believe that it has something to do with male
>>genitals. It does not. It has to do with aircraft throttles having a
>>small ball on the top, and when moved forward it/they go right to the
>>firewall of the cockpit. Hence "balls to the wall.")
>
> (what about planes with two/four wing mounted engines?)
Rather the same principle - the throttles would be moved the maximum
distance forward ("to the wall") to accelerate the engines to maximum
power.
Except on French aircraft, of course. In French, presumably the phrase
would be something along the lines of "boules à l'arrière".
Peace and justice,
Riki Tiki Tavi
> Peace and justice,
Riki Tiki Tavi
Riki Tiki Tavi
lein
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:46:45 -0700 (PDT), lein
>
> >On May 6, 1:09 pm, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:05:51 -0700 (PDT), lein
>
> >> <boomer_the_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >> >On May 6, 1:02 pm, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
> >> >> Now then -- would you like to discuss the significance of the National
> >> >> Convention?
>
> >> >Yes, do begin the discussion, we're waiting....
>
> >> Do the math.
>
> >Okay, done.
>
> What did you learn?
The outcome of the math, how about you, what did you learn?
Don Homuth
Apparently you didn't learn anything. Do you know how the first
ballots are cast?
Buck Mulligan
>On Mon, 05 May 2008 19:02:58 -0700, Buck Mulligan
><bkmul...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>In talk.politics.guns Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 05 May 2008 18:39:35 -0700, Buck Mulligan
>>><bkmul...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Edwards is an also-ran has-been loser. His opinion doesn't mean shit
>>>>any more.
>>>
>>>But...
>>>
>>>Last time I checked, he hadn't yet released his delegates to the D
>>>National Convention.
>>>
>>>Is that significant?
>>>
>>>(Clue: Indeed it is. Care to guess why?)
>>
>>Why are you asking questions and then answering them? Are you lonely,
>>Don?
>
>Because it's entertaining to cause Brain Freeze amongst the
>politically clueless out there.
I'm thinking it's more along the lines of you want some attention.
Riki Tiki Tavi
> In talk.politics.guns Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 05 May 2008 19:02:58 -0700, Buck Mulligan
>> <bkmul...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> In talk.politics.guns Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 05 May 2008 18:39:35 -0700, Buck Mulligan
>>>> <bkmul...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Edwards is an also-ran has-been loser. His opinion doesn't mean shit
>>>>> any more.
>>>> But...
>>>>
>>>> Last time I checked, he hadn't yet released his delegates to the D
>>>> National Convention.
>>>>
>>>> Is that significant?
>>>>
>>>> (Clue: Indeed it is. Care to guess why?)
>>> Why are you asking questions and then answering them? Are you lonely,
>>> Don?
>> Because it's entertaining to cause Brain Freeze amongst the
>> politically clueless out there.
>
> I'm thinking it's more along the lines of you want some attention.
The Don gets lonely, what wit the wife at work all day or off riding her
horses...
lein
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 15:38:47 -0700 (PDT), lein
>
>
>
> >On May 6, 1:47 pm, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:46:45 -0700 (PDT), lein
>
> >> <boomer_the_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >> >On May 6, 1:09 pm, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:05:51 -0700 (PDT), lein
>
> >> >> <boomer_the_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >> >> >On May 6, 1:02 pm, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
> >> >> >> Now then -- would you like to discuss the significance of the National
> >> >> >> Convention?
>
> >> >> >Yes, do begin the discussion, we're waiting....
>
> >> >> Do the math.
>
> >> >Okay, done.
>
> >> What did you learn?
>
> >The outcome of the math, how about you, what did you learn?
>
> Apparently you didn't learn anything. Do you know how the first
> ballots are cast?
Apparently you don't know anything else you would be demonstrating
your knowledge and not asking simple questions.
Lobby Dosser
> On Mon, 05 May 2008 19:02:58 -0700, Buck Mulligan
> <bkmul...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>In talk.politics.guns Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 05 May 2008 18:39:35 -0700, Buck Mulligan
>>><bkmul...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Edwards is an also-ran has-been loser. His opinion doesn't mean shit
>>>>any more.
>>>
>>>But...
>>>
>>>Last time I checked, he hadn't yet released his delegates to the D
>>>National Convention.
>>>
>>>Is that significant?
>>>
>>>(Clue: Indeed it is. Care to guess why?)
>>
>>Why are you asking questions and then answering them? Are you lonely,
>>Don?
>
> Because it's entertaining to cause Brain Freeze amongst the
> politically clueless out there.
>
Be more interesting if you had something to freeze.
Lobby Dosser
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 08:43:55 -0700 (PDT), lein
> <boomer_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>Or more simply, you don't know the answer
>
> Oh, I do. Ponder what happens at National Conventions, for starters.
> You might consider reading up on the rules that the Ds use.
>
> Lots More going on out there than you Experts are aware of.
>
IOW, you haven't a fucking clue. Which, of course, is no surprise to
anyone familiar with you.
Lobby Dosser
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 09:56:37 -0700 (PDT), lein
> <boomer_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>Oh, we're well aware of the Ds rules that disenfranchise millions of
>>voters from Florida and Michigan and this retarded Democrat primary
>>system designed for back room behind the scenes private deals. BTW,
>>have the Democrats ever finished assigning the Texas delegates yet?
>>Last I hard it was still being negotiated months after the primary.
>
> Good change of subject, though the segue is not particularly subtle.
>
> Alas - it's Not what was being discussed.
>
Fuck You! It's what He wants to discuss. YOU don't count for shit when it
comes to making those decisions.
Lobby Dosser
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:05:51 -0700 (PDT), lein
> <boomer_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>>On May 6, 1:02 pm, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>
>>> Now then -- would you like to discuss the significance of the
>>> National Convention?
>>
>>Yes, do begin the discussion, we're waiting....
>
> Do the math.
>
IOW, you haven't a Fucking Clue!
Lobby Dosser
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:46:45 -0700 (PDT), lein
> <boomer_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>>On May 6, 1:09 pm, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:05:51 -0700 (PDT), lein
>>>
>>> <boomer_the_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>> >On May 6, 1:02 pm, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>>> >> Now then -- would you like to discuss the significance of the
>>> >> National Convention?
>>>
>>> >Yes, do begin the discussion, we're waiting....
>>>
>>> Do the math.
>>
>>Okay, done.
>
> What did you learn?
>
You're a MORON with nothing of significance to say.
Lobby Dosser
Dondi learns sweet fuck all - Ever. For example, he's on record that two
years in the army tought him nothing.
Lobby Dosser
> Don Homuth wrote:
>> On Mon, 05 May 2008 19:02:58 -0700, Buck Mulligan
>> <bkmul...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> In talk.politics.guns Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 05 May 2008 18:39:35 -0700, Buck Mulligan
>>>> <bkmul...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Edwards is an also-ran has-been loser. His opinion doesn't mean
>>>>> shit any more.
>>>> But...
>>>>
>>>> Last time I checked, he hadn't yet released his delegates to the D
>>>> National Convention.
>>>>
>>>> Is that significant?
>>>>
>>>> (Clue: Indeed it is. Care to guess why?)
>>> Why are you asking questions and then answering them? Are you
>>> lonely, Don?
>>
>> Because it's entertaining to cause Brain Freeze
>
> Generally your own.
>
In his case, there's nothing left to freeze. I think he's finally caught
up with Shitzer and the gas passer.
Lobby Dosser
> In talk.politics.guns Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 05 May 2008 19:02:58 -0700, Buck Mulligan
>><bkmul...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>In talk.politics.guns Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 05 May 2008 18:39:35 -0700, Buck Mulligan
>>>><bkmul...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Edwards is an also-ran has-been loser. His opinion doesn't mean
>>>>>shit any more.
>>>>
>>>>But...
>>>>
>>>>Last time I checked, he hadn't yet released his delegates to the D
>>>>National Convention.
>>>>
>>>>Is that significant?
>>>>
>>>>(Clue: Indeed it is. Care to guess why?)
>>>
>>>Why are you asking questions and then answering them? Are you lonely,
>>>Don?
>>
>>Because it's entertaining to cause Brain Freeze amongst the
>>politically clueless out there.
>
> I'm thinking it's more along the lines of you want some attention.
>
'Bout it. Every now and then he throws a turd out of his cage to see what
kind of reaction it gets.
Lobby Dosser
Then there's grooming ...
Lobby Dosser
>
> On Tue, 06 May 2008 20:19:50 GMT, Riki Tiki Tavi
> <ti...@burning.bright> wrote:
>
>>Don Homuth wrote:
>
>>> (There's another incorrect example -- the phrase Balls To The Wall
>>> being used to denote something that's an extreme effort. Many of
>>> the Uninformed seem to believe that it has something to do with male
>>> genitals. It does not. It has to do with aircraft throttles having
>>> a small ball on the top, and when moved forward it/they go right to
>>> the firewall of the cockpit. Hence "balls to the wall.")
>>
>>
>>Sorry, steam engines preceded airplanes.
>>
>>You've been trumped again!
>>
>>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=balls+to+the+wall
>>
>>Steam engines had mechanical regulators that consisted of a pair of
>>hinged lever arms with a ball on the end of each arm, as the engine
>>sped up the centrifugal force caused the arms to raise up closing a
>>valve. If you adjust the regulator so that the arms go to horizontal
>>(with the balls pointing to the wall) without closing the valve you
>>are not limiting the speed of the engine.
>>
>>When the captain called for balls to the wall, we stoked the fire and
>>pushed the throttle to full.
>
> That's the earliest discussion of it, but not the one that popularized
> it. That came via pilots in WW2.
FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!! He handed you your ass AGAIN!!
Lobby Dosser
> Just like your use of "spades", what was once used early on is not the
> current meaning. When you were growing up, you had a "gay old time"
> watching the Flintstones.
>
And a Spade was of a darker complexion. Was in HD the other day with a
friend and the cashier remarked on his real good tan. He told her "I came
this way, I'm Mexican." Sorta put the kebash on the conversation. :)
Lobby Dosser
> Bill Shatzer wrote:
>> lein wrote:
>>
>> -snip-
>>
>>>> Wrong -- in spades.
>>
>>> Racist
>>
>> What do YOU call the highest card suit?
>>
>
> No Trump?
>
Trumped the silly buggers!!
Don Homuth
Not "nothing" certainly in an absolute sense. I learned quite a bit.
But without question, Nothing applicable to civilian life. Knowing
how to lag a target, for example, with twin M-60's has Not been one of
the skills I've had to practice since. Nor has building a bunker that
will withstand the direct impact of a 120mm rocket, doing aircraft
accident/incident reports, handling a 5-bunker perimeter sector or any
of the other "military skills" that I picked up over the time. Or any
of the other little duties (Assistant Battalion Re-Enlistment NCO was
by far my favorite Additional Duty) that arise from time to time in
the regular course of active duty.
Your bedpan close order drill doubtless kept your skill level current
afterwards. But essentially Nothing that I did during my tour of
service mattered even a little bit after I got out.
Some of the stuff I did with the National Guard as a Winter Operations
Instructor was mildly useful. But that was after my two years on
active duty with the Big Green Machine.
Don Homuth
<bkmul...@comcast.net> wrote:
>In talk.politics.guns Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 05 May 2008 19:02:58 -0700, Buck Mulligan
>><bkmul...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>Why are you asking questions and then answering them? Are you lonely,
>>>Don?
>>
>>Because it's entertaining to cause Brain Freeze amongst the
>>politically clueless out there.
>
>I'm thinking
So you assert. About what?
>... it's more along the lines of you want some attention.
The amUsenet is all about entertainment. I find it endlessly
entertaining to post stuff hereon.
Don't you?
Don Homuth
There is no suit called No Trump.
lein
So all that blustering about your firefighting training a while back
was all bullshit.
Don Homuth
Nope. The Army trained me to be a firefighter/crash rescue NCO on an
airfield. We never had a crash on the airfield that required me to
put on the Shake and Bake suit and wander into the flames. It just
isn't the way things worked out. The airfield had its own
firefighting crew for base fires - and I don't recall it ever being
deployed to fight one. (I can remember only one on the base, and it
didn't involve a fire.
I was assigned to the Battalion, not the airfield. Most of the
aircraft crashes we had to deal with occurred well off the base ) and
by the time the Crash Rescue folks arrived on the scene, the fire had
already burned itself out. Aircraft shot down in a war zone burn Very
quickly. You probably weren't aware of that. Most of them we got to
were piled of very hot aluminum oxide dust with some engine parts in
the middle. And there was usually no one to rescue.
Later on, I was a volunteer with a local fire department for several
years for such a specialty, and had it come up, I would have put on
the suit and done what I volunteered to do. But it never came up, so
the opportunity never arose for that specific activity. Small towns
seldom have such incidents. But they were pleased to have someone
with the training and capability of doing it even so.
I did attend some minor house and structure fires, but those whose
training and experience (Not to mention living In the town -- I lived
about 8 miles out.) were more directed than mine handled most of those
rather well. I ended up doing more logistics (fighting a fire
requires rather careful attention to that sort of thing) than
hose-handling. And post-fire matters.
Oh -- and two forest/brush fires as well. Again, not something to use
the specialty training on. The air tankers handled one of those, and
the other was handled pretty much by a bulldozer doing a fireline.
But certainly the Army training never got used later on. It just
never came up. Nor have I ever claimed it did.
Riki Tiki Tavi
Well...there were the war crimes he mastered so well...
Riki Tiki Tavi
And the buggy whips from Shatzie...
Riki Tiki Tavi
After his performance here of late, granted.
Riki Tiki Tavi
I have to admit it's become sort of a predictable whack-a-mole game, not
much sport left in it...
Riki Tiki Tavi
> The amUsenet is all about entertainment. I find it endlessly
> entertaining to post stuff hereon.
But you're a shameless attention whore, and given your life as shared
hereon, that's pathetic.
Riki Tiki Tavi
> On Wed, 07 May 2008 05:54:38 GMT, Lobby Dosser
> <lobby.dos...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> lein <boomer_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On May 6, 1:47 pm, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:46:45 -0700 (PDT), lein
>>>>
>>>> <boomer_the_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>> On May 6, 1:09 pm, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:05:51 -0700 (PDT), lein
>>>>>> <boomer_the_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On May 6, 1:02 pm, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Now then -- would you like to discuss the significance of the
>>>>>>>> National Convention?
>>>>>>> Yes, do begin the discussion, we're waiting....
>>>>>> Do the math.
>>>>> Okay, done.
>>>> What did you learn?
>>> The outcome of the math, how about you, what did you learn?
>> Dondi learns sweet fuck all - Ever. For example, he's on record that two
>> years in the army tought him nothing.
>
> Not "nothing" certainly in an absolute sense. I learned quite a bit.
>
> But without question, Nothing applicable to civilian life. Knowing
> how to lag a target, for example, with twin M-60's has Not been one of
> the skills I've had to practice since.
Well the private sector action in war crimes is somewhat limited....
Riki Tiki Tavi
> On Wed, 7 May 2008 08:18:36 -0700 (PDT), lein
> <boomer_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>> On May 7, 7:11 am, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>
>>> Some of the stuff I did with the National Guard as a Winter Operations
>>> Instructor was mildly useful. But that was after my two years on
>>> active duty with the Big Green Machine.
>> So all that blustering about your firefighting training a while back
>> was all bullshit.
>
> Nope. The Army trained me to be a firefighter/crash rescue NCO on an
> airfield.
How'd you graduate from that to committing war crimes?
Don Homuth
There were no War Crimes. That's just something that you internet
clowns made up to tell lies about.
As for graduating from it, it was scary but not difficult. Standing
in a large flaming pool of JP4 is, however, quite the experience!
Don Homuth
Not in the least. The Private Contractors in Iraq, for example, seem
to have been quite active in actual war crimes.
I was not.
Don Homuth
My choice of entertainment includes you. You willingly provide it.
I find you hilarious -- even when you get into one of your little
snits and start raving about scatological and sexual references.
You make an Excellent bad example.
Riki Tiki Tavi
> On Wed, 07 May 2008 16:30:59 GMT, Riki Tiki Tavi
> <ti...@burning.bright> wrote:
>
>> Don Homuth wrote:
>>> On Wed, 7 May 2008 08:18:36 -0700 (PDT), lein
>>> <boomer_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On May 7, 7:11 am, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>>>>> Some of the stuff I did with the National Guard as a Winter Operations
>>>>> Instructor was mildly useful. But that was after my two years on
>>>>> active duty with the Big Green Machine.
>>>> So all that blustering about your firefighting training a while back
>>>> was all bullshit.
>>> Nope. The Army trained me to be a firefighter/crash rescue NCO on an
>>> airfield.
>> How'd you graduate from that to committing war crimes?
>
> There were no War Crimes. That's just something that you internet
> clowns made up to tell lies about.
No, you admitted them here - several times.
Stop lying or another repost will be made.
> As for graduating from it, it was scary but not difficult. Standing
> in a large flaming pool of JP4 is, however, quite the experience!
Pity you can't reenact that one for us...youtube and all...
Bill Shatzer
-snip-
> Dondi learns sweet fuck all - Ever. For example, he's on record that two
> years in the army tought him nothing.
Rather more than two years.
And it likely taught him the correct spelling of "taught" - or at least
how to use a spell checker.
Peace and justice,
Riki Tiki Tavi
> On Wed, 07 May 2008 16:30:57 GMT, Riki Tiki Tavi
> <ti...@burning.bright> wrote:
>
>> Don Homuth wrote:
>>> On Wed, 07 May 2008 05:54:38 GMT, Lobby Dosser
>>> <lobby.dos...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dondi learns sweet fuck all - Ever. For example, he's on record that two
>>>> years in the army tought him nothing.
>>> Not "nothing" certainly in an absolute sense. I learned quite a bit.
>>>
>>> But without question, Nothing applicable to civilian life. Knowing
>>> how to lag a target, for example, with twin M-60's has Not been one of
>>> the skills I've had to practice since.
>> Well the private sector action in war crimes is somewhat limited....
>
> Not in the least. The Private Contractors in Iraq, for example, seem
> to have been quite active in actual war crimes.
>
> I was not.
Blackwater turned ya down???
Bill Shatzer
> Elmo <ElmoHa...@noSpam4U.org> wrote:
>
> zer wrote:
>>>lein wrote:
>>>-snip-
>>>>>Wrong -- in spades.
>>>>Racist
>>>What do YOU call the highest card suit?
>>No Trump?
> Trumped the silly buggers!!
No trump is not a suit.
And, if you're playing in no trump, nothing (not eve silly buggers) can
be trumped.
Sheesh.
Peace and justice,
Riki Tiki Tavi
> On Wed, 07 May 2008 16:30:58 GMT, Riki Tiki Tavi
> <ti...@burning.bright> wrote:
>
>> Don Homuth wrote:
>>
>>> The amUsenet is all about entertainment. I find it endlessly
>>> entertaining to post stuff hereon.
>> But you're a shameless attention whore, and given your life as shared
>> hereon, that's pathetic.
>
> My choice of entertainment includes you. You willingly provide it.
Pot/kettle.
You make a dandy stalking horse.
> I find you hilarious -- even when you get into one of your little
> snits and start raving about scatological and sexual references.
Oh good, I would hate to think I played into a vacuum...
> You make an Excellent bad example.
Pot/kettle.
And one of us is a pet killing war criminal - which I think creeps even
your lieberal peanut gallery out some, though they're loathe to admit it.
Don Homuth
<ti...@burning.bright> wrote:
>Don Homuth wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 May 2008 16:30:59 GMT, Riki Tiki Tavi
>> <ti...@burning.bright> wrote:
>>
>>> Don Homuth wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 7 May 2008 08:18:36 -0700 (PDT), lein
>>>> <boomer_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On May 7, 7:11 am, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>>>>>> Some of the stuff I did with the National Guard as a Winter Operations
>>>>>> Instructor was mildly useful. But that was after my two years on
>>>>>> active duty with the Big Green Machine.
>>>>> So all that blustering about your firefighting training a while back
>>>>> was all bullshit.
>>>> Nope. The Army trained me to be a firefighter/crash rescue NCO on an
>>>> airfield.
>>> How'd you graduate from that to committing war crimes?
>>
>> There were no War Crimes. That's just something that you internet
>> clowns made up to tell lies about.
>
>No, you admitted them here - several times.
>
>Stop lying or another repost will be made.
You're the one lying. I have Never admitted committing War Crimes. I
have been quite specific about those I believe actually did, however.
>> As for graduating from it, it was scary but not difficult. Standing
>> in a large flaming pool of JP4 is, however, quite the experience!
>
>Pity you can't reenact that one for us...youtube and all...
Sorry. That's for folks younger than I am.
Lobby Dosser
Sure there is.
Lobby Dosser
Like shooting nutria from your lawn chair ...
Lobby Dosser
>
> On Wed, 07 May 2008 05:54:38 GMT, Lobby Dosser
> <lobby.dos...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>lein <boomer_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On May 6, 1:47 pm, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:46:45 -0700 (PDT), lein
>>>>
>>>> <boomer_the_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>> >On May 6, 1:09 pm, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>>>> >> On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:05:51 -0700 (PDT), lein
>>>>
>>>> >> <boomer_the_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >On May 6, 1:02 pm, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>>>> >> >> Now then -- would you like to discuss the significance of the
>>>> >> >> National Convention?
>>>>
>>>> >> >Yes, do begin the discussion, we're waiting....
>>>>
>>>> >> Do the math.
>>>>
>>>> >Okay, done.
>>>>
>>>> What did you learn?
>>>
>>> The outcome of the math, how about you, what did you learn?
>>
>>Dondi learns sweet fuck all - Ever. For example, he's on record that
>>two years in the army tought him nothing.
>
> Not "nothing" certainly in an absolute sense. I learned quite a bit.
So you were lying when you said you learned nothing. Why are we not
surprised.
Lobby Dosser
>
> I did attend some minor house and structure fires, but those whose
> training and experience (Not to mention living In the town -- I lived
> about 8 miles out.) were more directed than mine handled most of those
> rather well. I ended up doing more logistics (fighting a fire
> requires rather careful attention to that sort of thing) than
> hose-handling. And post-fire matters.
>
IOW, as usual, someone else did the heavy lifting.
Lobby Dosser
He volunteered. Not to join, to ride shotgun ...
Riki Tiki Tavi
> On Wed, 07 May 2008 18:29:42 GMT, Riki Tiki Tavi
> <ti...@burning.bright> wrote:
>
>> Don Homuth wrote:
>>> On Wed, 07 May 2008 16:30:59 GMT, Riki Tiki Tavi
>>> <ti...@burning.bright> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Don Homuth wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 7 May 2008 08:18:36 -0700 (PDT), lein
>>>>> <boomer_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 7, 7:11 am, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>>>>>>> Some of the stuff I did with the National Guard as a Winter Operations
>>>>>>> Instructor was mildly useful. But that was after my two years on
>>>>>>> active duty with the Big Green Machine.
>>>>>> So all that blustering about your firefighting training a while back
>>>>>> was all bullshit.
>>>>> Nope. The Army trained me to be a firefighter/crash rescue NCO on an
>>>>> airfield.
>>>> How'd you graduate from that to committing war crimes?
>>> There were no War Crimes. That's just something that you internet
>>> clowns made up to tell lies about.
>> No, you admitted them here - several times.
>>
>> Stop lying or another repost will be made.
>
> You're the one lying. I have Never admitted committing War Crimes.
Newsgroups: or.politics
From: Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:38:51 -0700
Local: Fri, Apr 11 2008 10:38 am
Subject: Re: Dem butthole trashes McCain service record -- will Curt
et al. protest?
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:33:24 -0700 (PDT), lein
<boomer_the_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>On Apr 11, 7:37 am, Don Homuth <dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@> wrote:
>> You cannot do a War Crime unwittingly, nor would Any
>> international court recognize such a thing. Which is why the hundreds
>> of thousands of Murken GI's who did H&I fire and FFZ fire and another
>> several dozen SOP actions that Might have been considered war crimes
>> had they but known about them are not and were no War Criminals.
>> Those who Did know they were violations and instituted the SOPs are
>> the Real war criminals.
>You were just following orders...
As I was obliged to do by the Oath I took to do precisely that.
I quite naively presumed that "those in authority over me" would Never
order me to commit a war crime. To my knowledge -- At That Time --
they did not. I didn't learn they had until well After I returned
from combat.
Lobby Dosser
Bet he knew how to do that going in ...
Riki Tiki Tavi
While Dondi pointed and pontificated...
Riki Tiki Tavi
And open up with those .50 cals....
Riki Tiki Tavi
Practice makes perfect...bigger targets too...
Lobby Dosser
Asshole never even thought about it. Just fired willy nilly wherever
somebody pointed. And was not even Required to be out there firing. SOB
Volunteered to go shoot up the woods.
Riki Tiki Tavi
And I thought the Sgt. Barnes character in "Platoon" was creepy...yikes!
Lobby Dosser
.30, IIRC.
Riki Tiki Tavi
I thought he had the .50s too, must google...
Buck Mulligan
That you've been caught at, anyway.
Riki Tiki Tavi
Confession being 9/10ths of the law and all....
Don Homuth
<lobby.dos...@verizon.net> wrote:
>Riki Tiki Tavi <ti...@burning.bright> wrote:
>
>> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>> He volunteered. Not to join, to ride shotgun ...
>>
>> And open up with those .50 cals....
>>
>.30, IIRC.
Correct. The recoil from the Ma Deuce was too heavy for helicopter
use, though several were tried in various configurations here and
there.
By and large, not a terribly useful weapon for the Huey.