Gore wins Nobel while guntard hero goes down the toilet
Siva
winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
election based on the final recount, vs. the guntard hero--crybaby who
used his family influence to get the SCOTUS to certify him the
winner. The SCOTUS gave the guntard hero the Presidency, while Gore
bowed out gracefully, insisting on sparing the country a legal fight.
And we all know what after that. The guntard hero failed miserably to
prevent the first foreign attack on US soil in 50 years, then started
the first major military screwup since Vietnam (now chided by retired
Generals as a monumental disaster), and provided zero leadership in a
Hurricane that devastated Louisiana, a TRIFECTA that earned him a rep
among leading historians as the worst Pres in US history.
Now, while Gore basks in the reward for all his efforts, the crybaby
guntard hero has to hide himself away from the public for fear of
tomatoes being thrown in his face.
"I voted for Bush. He was a much better choice than the
alternatives."
-- bob frenchu, ex-guntard chief
Buck Mulligan
>Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
>winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
>election
The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
this country, as it should be.
>And we all know what after that. The guntard hero failed miserably to
>prevent the first foreign attack on US soil in 50 years
When a democrat was in the white house..... that one?
>Now, while Gore basks in the reward for all his efforts
basks at his energy-consuming house, which suck up more energy than,
oh, say, George Bush's energy-efficient ranch home.
I hope Gore gets the award EVERY year. [snicker]
Gray Ghost
@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
Notice the use of lies and personal, unsubstanitated insults. It appears the
Left has come to the stage where thier hatred for America is so all
consuming, and baseless, that they are no longer trying to conceal it.
We hope these people are very visible, loud and prominently on display next
year during the election.
Frank
Siva
wrote:
> Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in news:1192379767.775538.16470
> @q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
> > winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
> > election based on the final recount, vs. the guntard hero--crybaby who
> > used his family influence to get the SCOTUS to certify him the
> > winner. The SCOTUS gave the guntard hero the Presidency, while Gore
> > bowed out gracefully, insisting on sparing the country a legal fight.
>
> > And we all know what after that. The guntard hero failed miserably to
> > prevent the first foreign attack on US soil in 50 years, then started
> > the first major military screwup since Vietnam (now chided by retired
> > Generals as a monumental disaster), and provided zero leadership in a
> > Hurricane that devastated Louisiana, a TRIFECTA that earned him a rep
> > among leading historians as the worst Pres in US history.
>
> > Now, while Gore basks in the reward for all his efforts, the crybaby
> > guntard hero has to hide himself away from the public for fear of
> > tomatoes being thrown in his face.
>
> > "I voted for Bush. He was a much better choice than the
> > alternatives."
>
> > -- bob frenchu, ex-guntard chief
>
> Notice the use of lies and personal, unsubstanitated insults.
No, I didn't notice. Where are they?
> It appears the
> Left has come to the stage where thier hatred for America is so all
> consuming,
Yep the right loves America so much they made the SCOTUS appoint their
hero, who is now hated by most of America.
> and baseless, that they are no longer trying to conceal it.
The guntard hero sure is baseless. His own party no longer wants him
around.
>
> We hope these people are very visible, loud and prominently on display next
> year during the election.
They were when the GOP got its butt kicked in 2006 in Congress, but
now Dems can win even while asleep.
>
> Frank
Siva
> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
> >election
>
> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
> this country, as it should be.
And Gore was proven to win that, too.
>
> >And we all know what after that. The guntard hero failed miserably to
> >prevent the first foreign attack on US soil in 50 years
>
> When a democrat was in the white house..... that one?
>
> >Now, while Gore basks in the reward for all his efforts
>
> basks at his energy-consuming house, which suck up more energy than,
> oh, say, George Bush's energy-efficient ranch home.
Except Gore pays for all his energy through the Green Switch program,
which uses energy from renewable sources.
>
> I hope Gore gets the award EVERY year. [snicker]
Guntards hope they can at least win debates with 5 y/os.
Siva
>
> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
> >election
>
> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
> this country, as it should be.
>
> >And we all know what after that. The guntard hero failed miserably to
> >prevent the first foreign attack on US soil in 50 years
>
> When a democrat was in the white house..... that one?
Really? 9/11 occurred during the Clinton admin?
Gray Ghost
news:1192381595....@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com:
As I said.
man I can't wait for 11/2008. I am hoping for mass suicides among the Left.
They should all use guns and then thier deaths can have meaning for thier
cause, not that anyone will give a crap.
Frank
Gray Ghost
@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
> On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
>> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
>> >election
>>
>> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
>> this country, as it should be.
>>
>> >And we all know what after that. The guntard hero failed miserably to
>> >prevent the first foreign attack on US soil in 50 years
>>
>> When a democrat was in the white house..... that one?
>
> Really? 9/11 occurred during the Clinton admin?
>
No you uneducated dolt. That one the previous administration left behind for
the present one, since it is documented to have been being planned for in
excess of 2 years meaning 18 months during the previous administration.
No I think he meant the 1993 Twin Towers attack. US soil.
Also there were the African embassies, considered by international law to be
US territory, Khobar Towers, USS Kohl, etc.
>>
>> >Now, while Gore basks in the reward for all his efforts
>>
>> basks at his energy-consuming house, which suck up more energy than,
>> oh, say, George Bush's energy-efficient ranch home.
>>
>> I hope Gore gets the award EVERY year. [snicker]
>
>
>
Frank
Scout
"Siva" <pranc...@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:1192379767....@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
> winner of the popular vote in 2000
Which isn't how a President is elected, but hey, let's not allow facts to
interfere with a good illogical rant.
> and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000 election based on the final recount
Outright lies, however, signal the end point of your rant.
<snip>
Try again when you can do this without resorting to outright lies.
Scout
> On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
>> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
>> >election
>>
>> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
>> this country, as it should be.
>
> And Gore was proven to win that, too.
http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm
So what is your evidence?
Buck Mulligan
>On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
>> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
>> >election
>>
>> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
>> this country, as it should be.
>
>And Gore was proven to win that, too.
I'm afraid he wasn't. That's why Gore is a washed-up has-been, and
Bush is your president.
>> >And we all know what after that. The guntard hero failed miserably to
>> >prevent the first foreign attack on US soil in 50 years
>>
>> When a democrat was in the white house..... that one?
>
>
> [crickets]
>
>
>
>> >Now, while Gore basks in the reward for all his efforts
>>
>> basks at his energy-consuming house, which suck up more energy than,
>> oh, say, George Bush's energy-efficient ranch home.
>
>Except Gore pays for all his energy through the Green Switch program,
>which uses energy from renewable sources.
LOL Gore WASTES energy like the hypocrite he is. There's no renewable
source for natural gas, dumbshit.
>> I hope Gore gets the award EVERY year. [snicker]
>
>Guntards hope they can at least win debates with 5 y/os.
Oh! Is today your birthday!???
Buck Mulligan
>On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
>> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
>> >election
>>
>> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
>> this country, as it should be.
>>
>> >And we all know what after that. The guntard hero failed miserably to
>> >prevent the first foreign attack on US soil in 50 years
>>
>> When a democrat was in the white house..... that one?
>
>Really? 9/11 occurred during the Clinton admin?
Are you talking about the first al Queda attack in the parking garage
at the world trade center in 1993? When Bill Clinton was President?
You're a little math challenged, aren't you, if you think that was 60
years ago.
Buck Mulligan
>They were when the GOP got its butt kicked in 2006 in Congress, but
>now Dems can win even while asleep.
Lucky for them, since they are asleep.
SaPeIsMa
> On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
>> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
>> >election
>>
>> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
>> this country, as it should be.
>>
>> >And we all know what after that. The guntard hero failed miserably to
>> >prevent the first foreign attack on US soil in 50 years
>>
>> When a democrat was in the white house..... that one?
>
> Really? 9/11 occurred during the Clinton admin?
>
The first bombing of WTC was under Clinton
Too bad you're so ignorant of the facts AND history
>>
>> >Now, while Gore basks in the reward for all his efforts
>>
>> basks at his energy-consuming house, which suck up more energy than,
>> oh, say, George Bush's energy-efficient ranch home.
>>
>> I hope Gore gets the award EVERY year. [snicker]
>
Just goes to show how debased both the Academy Awards AND the Nobel Peace
Prize have become
But then ANYTHING that the left touches does become debased over time
Siva
<me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> "Siva" <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in message
That's evidence of the APPOINTED Pres in 2000, NOT the one actually
winning the electoral vote,
> >> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
> >> this country, as it should be.
>
> > And Gore was proven to win that, too.
which Gore did. . .
Review Method Winner
Review of All Ballots Statewide (never undertaken)
· Standard as set by each county Canvassing Board during their
survey Gore by 171
· Fully punched chads and limited marks on optical ballots Gore by
115
· Any dimples or optical mark Gore by 107
· One corner of chad detached or optical mark Gore by 60
Media based
Following the election, recounts conducted by various United States
news media organizations indicated that Bush would have won if certain
recounting methods had been used (including the one favored by Gore at
the time of the Supreme Court decision) but that Gore would have won
had a full state-wide recount been conducted. [14]
Siva
> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
> >> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
> >> >election
>
> >> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
> >> this country, as it should be.
>
> >And Gore was proven to win that, too.
>
> I'm afraid he wasn't. That's why Gore is a washed-up has-been, and
> Bush is your president.
That's why Gore is a 2007 Nobel Prize winner while the guntard hero is
facing a 69% disapproval rating after starting a discredited war w/a
Third World country the US military is now losing, while his ex-
generals call the whole thing a massive blunder.
Think this guntard was referring to "washed up" in success, rather
opposed to failure.
l
>
>
>
> >> >And we all know what after that. The guntard hero failed miserably to
> >> >prevent the first foreign attack on US soil in 50 years
>
> >> When a democrat was in the white house..... that one?
>
> > [crickets]
>
> >> >Now, while Gore basks in the reward for all his efforts
>
> >> basks at his energy-consuming house, which suck up more energy than,
> >> oh, say, George Bush's energy-efficient ranch home.
>
> >Except Gore pays for all his energy through the Green Switch program,
> >which uses energy from renewable sources.
>
> LOL Gore WASTES energy like the hypocrite he is. There's no renewable
> source for natural gas, dumbshit.
>
> >> I hope Gore gets the award EVERY year. [snicker]
>
> >Guntards hope they can at least win debates with 5 y/os.
>
> Oh! Is today your birthday!???
Yep, I'm 6 today, and my Mom likes how I humiliate guntards online.
Siva
wrote:
> Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in news:1192381889.610096.214750
> @k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
> >> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
> >> >election
>
> >> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
> >> this country, as it should be.
>
> >> >And we all know what after that. The guntard hero failed miserably to
> >> >prevent the first foreign attack on US soil in 50 years
>
> >> When a democrat was in the white house..... that one?
>
> > Really? 9/11 occurred during the Clinton admin?
>
> No you uneducated dolt. That one the previous administration left behind for
> the present one,
Forgot about guntard logic: if something happens on your watch, blame
someone else!
since it is documented to have been being planned for in
> excess of 2 years meaning 18 months during the previous administration.
>
> No I think he meant the 1993 Twin Towers attack. US soil.
Except the 2001 attacks were totally preventable. All the guntard
hero had to do was get fighters to shoot down the hijacker planes, and
he failed to do that, because he was on his way to an elementary
school to learn how to read his first book.
Siva
> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >They were when the GOP got its butt kicked in 2006 in Congress, but
> >now Dems can win even while asleep.
>
> Lucky for them, since they are asleep.
Pretty pathetic when the opposition kicks your ass even with their
eyes closed.
No wonder the guntard hero's fellow partymen are so desperately trying
to avoid him. . .
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/09/23/gop-presidential-candidat_n_65513.html
Siva
> "Siva" <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in message
babybush and his guntard base have yet to touch any awards.
Siva
> On Oct 14, 12:18 pm, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in news:1192381889.610096.214750
> > @k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
> > >> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
> > >> >election
>
> > >> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
> > >> this country, as it should be.
>
> > >> >And we all know what after that. The guntard hero failed miserably to
> > >> >prevent the first foreign attack on US soil in 50 years
>
> > >> When a democrat was in the white house..... that one?
>
> > > Really? 9/11 occurred during the Clinton admin?
>
> > No you uneducated dolt. That one the previous administration left behind for
> > the present one,
>
> Forgot about guntard logic: if something happens on your watch, blame
> someone else!
>
> since it is documented to have been being planned for in
>
> > excess of 2 years meaning 18 months during the previous administration.
Documented in a dossier prepared by the Clinton admin: bin Laden
determined to attack the US
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2004/04/b44925.html
which the guntard hero ignored, because he still was learning to read
goat books at elementary schools. . .
Siva
<me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> "Siva" <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in message
Review Method Winner
Review of All Ballots Statewide (never undertaken)
· Standard as set by each county Canvassing Board during their
survey Gore by 171
· Fully punched chads and limited marks on optical ballots
Gore by
115
· Any dimples or optical mark Gore by 107
· One corner of chad detached or optical mark Gore by 60
Media based
Following the election, recounts conducted by various United States
news media organizations indicated that Bush would have won if certain
recounting methods had been used (including the one favored by Gore at
the time of the Supreme Court decision) but that Gore would have won
had a full state-wide recount been conducted. [14]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_200...
Buck Mulligan
>> I'm afraid he wasn't. That's why Gore is a washed-up has-been, and
>> Bush is your president.
>
>That's why Gore is a 2007 Nobel Prize winner
ROFL Yassar Fucking Arafat won a Nobel prize. It doesn't take any
special skill to win a Nobel Prize.
>while the guntard hero is
>facing a 69% disapproval rating after starting a discredited war w/a
>Third World country the US military is now losing, while his ex-
>generals call the whole thing a massive blunder.
And he's STILL your president. And Gore is... unemployed?
Oh, and he beat your war hero, too.
That's pretty sad, isn't it? He nailed the two best you guys could
come up with?
>> >> >Now, while Gore basks in the reward for all his efforts
>>
>> >> basks at his energy-consuming house, which suck up more energy than,
>> >> oh, say, George Bush's energy-efficient ranch home.
>>
>> >Except Gore pays for all his energy through the Green Switch program,
>> >which uses energy from renewable sources.
>>
>> LOL Gore WASTES energy like the hypocrite he is. There's no renewable
>> source for natural gas, dumbshit.
>
>
>
> [crickets]
>
>
>
>
>>>
>> >> I hope Gore gets the award EVERY year. [snicker]
>> >Guntards hope they can at least win debates with 5 y/os.
>> Oh! Is today your birthday!???
>Yep, I'm 6 today, and my Mom likes how I humiliate guntards online.
Your mommy will tell you anything to make you feel good. Did she tell
you natural gas was a renewable resource, too? [guffaw]
Buck Mulligan
>On Oct 14, 12:31 pm, "Scout"
><me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>> "Siva" <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1192381737.7...@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
>> >> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
>> >> >election
>>
>> >> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
>> >> this country, as it should be.
>>
>> > And Gore was proven to win that, too.
>>
>> http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm
>>
>> So what is your evidence?
>
>That's evidence of the APPOINTED Pres in 2000, NOT the one actually
>winning the electoral vote,
It shows Bush winning the Electoral vote. Can't you read a simple
chart?
Buck Mulligan
>On Oct 14, 1:29 pm, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >They were when the GOP got its butt kicked in 2006 in Congress, but
>> >now Dems can win even while asleep.
>>
>> Lucky for them, since they are asleep.
>
>Pretty pathetic when the opposition kicks your ass even with their
>eyes closed.
Were their eyes closed in 2000 and 2004? LOL Your eyes are ALWAYS
closed.
Siva
> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >> I'm afraid he wasn't. That's why Gore is a washed-up has-been, and
> >> Bush is your president.
>
> >That's why Gore is a 2007 Nobel Prize winner
>
> ROFL Yassar Fucking Arafat won a Nobel prize. It doesn't take any
> special skill to win a Nobel Prize.
So easy that the guntards and their hero have won. . .
ZERO
>
> >while the guntard hero is
> >facing a 69% disapproval rating after starting a discredited war w/a
> >Third World country the US military is now losing, while his ex-
> >generals call the whole thing a massive blunder.
>
> And he's STILL your president.
A fact which the majority of America is now pissed at.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/27/opinion/polls/main1350874.shtml
> And Gore is... unemployed?
With the prize money of a Nobel under his belt, and numerous speaking
engagements, can afford to be,
while the guntard hero is lucky if any of his OWN partymembers want
him speaking. . .
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-news/comments/2007/10/06/65513
>
> Oh, and he beat your war hero, too.
Correction: PEACE HERO. War is for AWOL sissies who aren't man
enough to clean up their own mess. . .
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN1444654620070914
>
> That's pretty sad, isn't it?
Indeed, yet guntards are still proud of their "hero."
>
>
>
> >> >> >Now, while Gore basks in the reward for all his efforts
>
> >> >> basks at his energy-consuming house, which suck up more energy than,
> >> >> oh, say, George Bush's energy-efficient ranch home.
>
> >> >Except Gore pays for all his energy through the Green Switch program,
> >> >which uses energy from renewable sources.
>
> >> LOL Gore WASTES energy like the hypocrite he is. There's no renewable
> >> source for natural gas, dumbshit.
>
> > [crickets]
>
> >> >> I hope Gore gets the award EVERY year. [snicker]
> >> >Guntards hope they can at least win debates with 5 y/os.
> >> Oh! Is today your birthday!???
> >Yep, I'm 6 today, and my Mom likes how I humiliate guntards online.
>
> Your mommy will tell you anything to make you feel good. Did she tell
> you natural gas was a renewable resource, too? [guffaw]
No, my Mommy is educated. She didn't marry her brother on the barn
and have down syndrome kids like guntards, too.
Siva
> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Oct 14, 1:29 pm, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >They were when the GOP got its butt kicked in 2006 in Congress, but
> >> >now Dems can win even while asleep.
>
> >> Lucky for them, since they are asleep.
>
> >Pretty pathetic when the opposition kicks your ass even with their
> >eyes closed.
>
> Were their eyes closed in 2000 and 2004? LOL Your eyes are ALWAYS
> closed.
Nope, then they noticed as they warned everyone how pathetic a leader
the guntard hero would turn out to be. . .
. . .and they were right!
"Bush has taken this disdain for law even further. He has sought to
strip people accused of crimes of rights that date as far back as the
Magna Carta in Anglo-American jurisprudence: trial by impartial jury,
access to lawyers and knowledge of evidence against them. In dozens of
statements when signing legislation, he has asserted the right to
ignore the parts of laws with which he disagrees. His administration
has adopted policies regarding the treatment of prisoners of war that
have disgraced the nation and alienated virtually the entire world.
Usually, during wartime, the Supreme Court has refrained from passing
judgment on presidential actions related to national defense. The
court's unprecedented rebukes of Bush's policies on detainees indicate
how far the administration has strayed from the rule of law."
"Historians are loath to predict the future. It is impossible to say
with certainty how Bush will be ranked in, say, 2050. But somehow, in
his first six years in office he has managed to combine the lapses of
leadership, misguided policies and abuse of power of his failed
predecessors. I think there is no alternative but to rank him as the
worst president in U.S. history."
Siva
> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Oct 14, 12:31 pm, "Scout"
> ><me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> >> "Siva" <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1192381737.7...@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
> >> >> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
> >> >> >election
>
> >> >> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
> >> >> this country, as it should be.
>
> >> > And Gore was proven to win that, too.
>
> >>http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm
>
> >> So what is your evidence?
>
> >That's evidence of the APPOINTED Pres in 2000, NOT the one actually
> >winning the electoral vote,
>
> It shows Bush winning the Electoral vote. Can't you read a simple
> chart?
Nope, we prefer to rely on the LATEST data. . .
Review Method Winner
Review of All Ballots Statewide (never undertaken)
· Standard as set by each county Canvassing Board during their
survey Gore by 171
· Fully punched chads and limited marks on optical ballots
Gore by
115
· Any dimples or optical mark Gore by 107
· One corner of chad detached or optical mark Gore by 60
Media based
Following the election, recounts conducted by various United States
news media organizations indicated that Bush would have won if certain
recounting methods had been used (including the one favored by Gore at
the time of the Supreme Court decision) but that Gore would have won
had a full state-wide recount been conducted. [14]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_200...
Scout
>On Oct 14, 12:31 pm, "Scout"
><me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>> "Siva" <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1192381737.7...@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>>
> >> On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>
> >>> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
> >>> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
> >> >>election
>>
> >>> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
> >>> this country, as it should be.
>>
> >> And Gore was proven to win that, too.
>>
>> http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm
>>
>> So what is your evidence?
>
>That's evidence of the APPOINTED Pres in 2000, NOT the one actually
>winning the electoral vote,
Sorry, the source provided shows he won enough electoral votes.
Your denial of reality doesn't alter that.
<snip>
Oh, and for your recount suggestions.
1) Gore never presented any valid cause for a recount of the ballots.
2) Such recount standards had to apply consistently statewide, not county
wide as you suggest
3) Dimpled or incomplete chads were by ESTABLISHED STANDARDS, INVALID.
Further if you want to get really technical then under the law Gore lost
several hundred thousand votes when the results in several areas were NOT
certified as called for by the law within the 11 day period set forth by
Florida Election law.
Though I suppose you will tell me that "...shall be ignored..." doesn't mean
what it says.
But, we are suppose to ignore what the law says because well that would mean
that Gore didn't win, and we couldn't have that.......
Wayne
> Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
> winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
> used his family influence to get the SCOTUS to certify him the
> winner. The SCOTUS gave the guntard hero the Presidency, while Gore
> bowed out gracefully, insisting on sparing the country a legal fight.
>
...here we go again with the election whining again. Dude...you need to
play golf and learn the difference between stroke play (analagous to popular
vote) and match play (analagous to electoral college). They are two
completely different games, requiring different strategies. So when a
candidates are out spending time and money, they go after electoral
votes...not popular votes. Gore flat lost any way you want to look at it.
And do you REALLY believe that SCOTUS was bought off? And Gore bowed out
gracefully? Sheesh, he is still whining.
Scout
>On Oct 14, 12:30 pm, "Scout"
><me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>> "Siva" <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1192379767....@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
>> > winner of the popular vote in 2000
>>
>> Which isn't how a President is elected, but hey, let's not allow facts to
>> interfere with a good illogical rant.
>>
>> > and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000 election based on the final recount
>>
>> Outright lies, however, signal the end point of your rant.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Try again when you can do this without resorting to outright lies.
>
>Review Method Winner
>Review of All Ballots Statewide (never undertaken)
Point - Gore never established just cause as set forth by Florida election
law for any need for an additional recount.
"(3) The complaint shall set forth the grounds on which the contestant
intends to establish his or her right to such office or set aside the result
of the election on a submitted referendum. The grounds for contesting an
election under this section are:
(a) Misconduct, fraud, or corruption on the part of any election official
or any member of the canvassing board sufficient to change or place in doubt
the result of the election.
(b) Ineligibility of the successful candidate for the nomination or office
in dispute.
(c) Receipt of a number of illegal votes or rejection of a number of legal
votes sufficient to change or place in doubt the result of the election.
(d) Proof that any elector, election official, or canvassing board member
was given or offered a bribe or reward in money, property, or any other
thing of value for the purpose of procuring the successful candidate's
nomination or election or determining the result on any question submitted
by referendum. "
102.168
Hence there was NO reason whatsoever to conduct any further state wide
recounts, particularly given that Gore NEVER filed the necessary paperwork,
much less established a valid reason for such a recount.
Strike One.
>· Standard as set by each county Canvassing Board during their
>survey Gore by 171
Wrong, the standards shall be consistent across the state as set by the
Florida legislature, NOT by each county
"(c) Any manual recount must be completed in accord with standards for
counting chads that are uniform across the counties.The Legislature has
directed: "The Department of State shall adopt rules prescribing standards
for ballots used in electronic or electromechanical voting systems. Such
standards shall ensure that ballots are counted in a uniform and consistent
manner and shall include, without limitation, standards for the ... Scoring
of ballots. FLA STAT.§101.5609(8) (emphasis added). See also
FLA.STAT.§97.012 (the Secretary of State shall "Obtain and maintain
uniformity in the application, operation, and interpretation of the election
laws)."
Strike Two.
>· Fully punched chads and limited marks on optical ballots
>Gore by
>115
>· Any dimples or optical mark Gore by 107
>· One corner of chad detached or optical mark Gore by 60
Wrong again dimpled or pregnant chads are NOT valid, as per Florida law, nor
is one corner detached.
"(b) "Any manual recount cannot count dimpled or pregnant chads. If a manual
recount is done, it should not count a ballot as a vote unless the ballot
left a "clear indication of the intent of the voter as determined by the
canvassing board." FLA.STAT.§101.5614(5). See also FLA.STAT. §102.166(7)(b).
This was previously determined by the only canvassing board to address the
issue before this election, Palm Beach County, as meaning that chads could
only be counted as votes if at least two corners were detatched, and not if
the chad was merely dimpled or pregnant. See: Petitioner Exh. J. Prior to
this election, no Florida county board had ever counted a dimpled or
pregnant ballot as a vote."
Strike THREEEEEeeeeee.
You're OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<snip>
Scout
"Buck Mulligan" <bkmul...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:iu85h39n599c38rb8...@4ax.com...
I'm not sure Siva can read, period.
Michael Ejercito
<me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> "Siva" <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1192379767....@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
> > winner of the popular vote in 2000
>
> Which isn't how a President is elected, but hey, let's not allow facts to
> interfere with a good illogical rant.
>
> > and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000 election based on the final recount
>
> Outright lies, however, signal the end point of your rant.
Michael
Buck Mulligan
>On Oct 14, 6:21 pm, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Oct 14, 1:29 pm, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >They were when the GOP got its butt kicked in 2006 in Congress, but
>> >> >now Dems can win even while asleep.
>>
>> >> Lucky for them, since they are asleep.
>>
>> >Pretty pathetic when the opposition kicks your ass even with their
>> >eyes closed.
>>
>> Were their eyes closed in 2000 and 2004? LOL Your eyes are ALWAYS
>> closed.
>
>Nope, then they noticed as they warned everyone how pathetic a leader
>the guntard hero would turn out to be. . .
Too bad they didn't warn enough people. Bush is your president. LOL
>. . .and they were right!
>
>"Bush has
remained your president for eight long years. Please tell me he's not
REALLY president- so he can run again in 2008! LOL
Buck Mulligan
>On Oct 14, 6:16 pm, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> I'm afraid he wasn't. That's why Gore is a washed-up has-been, and
>> >> Bush is your president.
>>
>> >That's why Gore is a 2007 Nobel Prize winner
>>
>> ROFL Yassar Fucking Arafat won a Nobel prize. It doesn't take any
>> special skill to win a Nobel Prize.
>
>So easy that the guntards and their hero have won. . .
>
>ZERO
If anti-environment GORE can win, I fully expect Bush to win in a few
years.
>> >while the guntard hero is
>> >facing a 69% disapproval rating after starting a discredited war w/a
>> >Third World country the US military is now losing, while his ex-
>> >generals call the whole thing a massive blunder.
>>
>> And he's STILL your president.
>
>A fact which the majority of America is now pissed at.
The majority doesn't matter. Don't you know ANYTHING about your
country? It's ELECTORAL votes that count.
>> And Gore is... unemployed?
>
>With the prize money of a Nobel under his belt, and numerous speaking
>engagements, can afford to be,
Ah, speaking engagements. I'll bet the pool heater at his house is
running full blast.....>> Oh, and he beat your war hero, too.
>
>Correction: PEACE HERO.
War hero. Kerry was a "war hero" remember? Yeah, If I were you, I'd
try to forget, too. [snicker]
>> Your mommy will tell you anything to make you feel good. Did she tell
>> you natural gas was a renewable resource, too? [guffaw]
>
>No, my Mommy is educated. She didn't marry her brother on the barn
Right- she married him in the front room of the trailer.....
Buck Mulligan
>On Oct 14, 6:20 pm, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Oct 14, 12:31 pm, "Scout"
>> ><me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>> >> "Siva" <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:1192381737.7...@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
>> >> >> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
>> >> >> >election
>>
>> >> >> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
>> >> >> this country, as it should be.
>>
>> >> > And Gore was proven to win that, too.
>>
>> >>http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm
>>
>> >> So what is your evidence?
>>
>> >That's evidence of the APPOINTED Pres in 2000, NOT the one actually
>> >winning the electoral vote,
>>
>> It shows Bush winning the Electoral vote. Can't you read a simple
>> chart?
>
>Nope,
didn't think so. Well, too bad, because Bush has been your president
for eight years, and there's nothing you can do about it! LOL
RSweeney
On Oct 14, 12:31 pm, "Scout"
<me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> "Siva" <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1192381737.7...@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
> >> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
> >> >election
>
> >> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
> >> this country, as it should be.
>
> > And Gore was proven to win that, too.
>
> http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm
>
> So what is your evidence?
That's evidence of the APPOINTED Pres in 2000, NOT the one actually
winning the electoral vote,
Sorry, that's electoral college vote according to the Constitution
Won by Bush
Steve
> Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
> winner of the popular vote in 2000
Which means absolutely nothing.
and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
> election based on the final recount,
Nope. You couldn't even go one full paragraph without a demonstrable lie.
Even the Miami Herald's recount showed Bush as the winner, possibly because
democrats really are simply too stupid to operate something as complicated
[snicker] as a punch card voting machine, but the winner anyway. Bush's
modest energy efficient ranch house beats Gore's ENERGY GUZZLING mansion
hands down too making Bush the real practicing environmentalist and Gore the
poser.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp
As far the Nobel prize even Noted terrorist scumbag Yassar Arafat can get
one so enough said.
Steve
> On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >election
> >
> > The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
> > this country, as it should be.
>
> And Gore was proven to win that, too.
Medication can help you with these delusions.
Steve
Media based
Here's some "media based" accounts for you:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/media/media_watch/jan-june01/recount_4-3.html
I guess republican biased [snicker][snicker] PBS is part of the conspiracy
huh?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2001-04-03-floridamain.htm
Bush won. You kooks need to get over it and learn how to work a voting
machine. It isn't republican's fault if the homeless idiots you pay off in
cigarettes to go to the polls for your candidates can't figure out the
voting machines.
Gore's house is an enviromentalists energy sucking nightmare compared to
Bush's lean mean green one. Gore is a poser and a loser.
Steve
On Oct 14, 6:20 pm, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Oct 14, 12:31 pm, "Scout"
> ><me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> >> "Siva" <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1192381737.7...@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
> >> >> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the
2000
> >> >> >election
>
> >> >> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
> >> >> this country, as it should be.
>
> >> > And Gore was proven to win that, too.
>
> >>http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm
>
> >> So what is your evidence?
>
> >That's evidence of the APPOINTED Pres in 2000, NOT the one actually
> >winning the electoral vote,
>
> It shows Bush winning the Electoral vote. Can't you read a simple
> chart?
Nope, we prefer to rely on the LATEST data. . .
No you prefer to rely on any data that supports your halfbaked theory. If
you really believe this crap how much of a gutless piece of shit do you have
to be to let the election be stolen and not use force to take the country
back? Do you even deserve the freedom you have?
Steve
> On Oct 14, 1:23 pm, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
> > >> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
> > >> >election
> >
> > >> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
> > >> this country, as it should be.
> >
> > >And Gore was proven to win that, too.
> >
> > I'm afraid he wasn't. That's why Gore is a washed-up has-been, and
> > Bush is your president.
>
> That's why Gore is a 2007 Nobel Prize winner
Noted terrorist leader Yassar Arafat won one too. He and Gore are part of
the same club now. How sweet. Too bad Arafat's dead. He and Gore could have
some great times.
Siva
Hey, what about the time I gave you guys two free cows in exchange for
guntard boys dancing naked on stage?
>
> Michael
Siva
Oh do please point out which ones are lies. Guntards are entertaining
whenever they try to defend themselves.
(watching naked guntard kids run around the hay is ALSO entertaining,
but that's for a different thread)
Siva
> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Oct 14, 6:20 pm, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >On Oct 14, 12:31 pm, "Scout"
> >> ><me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> >> >> "Siva" <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:1192381737.7...@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> >> > On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
> >> >> >> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
> >> >> >> >election
>
> >> >> >> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
> >> >> >> this country, as it should be.
>
> >> >> > And Gore was proven to win that, too.
>
> >> >>http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm
>
> >> >> So what is your evidence?
>
> >> >That's evidence of the APPOINTED Pres in 2000, NOT the one actually
> >> >winning the electoral vote,
>
> >> It shows Bush winning the Electoral vote. Can't you read a simple
> >> chart?
>
>
Indeed. All guntards have this problem.
Siva
> "Siva" <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1192401463.8...@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 14, 12:31 pm, "Scout"
>
>
>
> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> > "Siva" <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1192381737.7...@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
> > >> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
> > >> >election
>
> > >> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
> > >> this country, as it should be.
>
> > > And Gore was proven to win that, too.
>
> >http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm
>
> > So what is your evidence?
>
> That's evidence of the APPOINTED Pres in 2000, NOT the one actually
> winning the electoral vote,
>
> Sorry, that's electoral college vote according to the Constitution
>
> Won by Bush
Then why does the final recount say Gore won?
Siva
>
> Here's some "media based" accounts for you:
>
>
> I guess republican biased [snicker][snicker] PBS is part of the conspiracy
>
> Bush won. You kooks need to get over it and learn how to work a voting
> machine. It isn't republican's fault if the homeless idiots you pay off in
> cigarettes to go to the polls for your candidates can't figure out the
> voting machines.
>
> Gore's house is an enviromentalists energy sucking nightmare compared to
> Bush's lean mean green one. Gore is a poser and a loser.
OH stevie boy, you're slow. You better get with your fellow guntards
here and learn how to snip the evidence instead of reproducing it!
Steve
> On Oct 14, 6:21 pm, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Oct 14, 1:29 pm, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> >They were when the GOP got its butt kicked in 2006 in Congress, but
> > >> >now Dems can win even while asleep.
> >
> > >> Lucky for them, since they are asleep.
> >
> > >Pretty pathetic when the opposition kicks your ass even with their
> > >eyes closed.
> >
> > Were their eyes closed in 2000 and 2004? LOL Your eyes are ALWAYS
> > closed.
>
> Nope, then they noticed as they warned everyone how pathetic a leader
> the guntard hero would turn out to be. . .
>
> . . .and they were right!
>
> "Bush has taken this disdain for law even further. He has sought to
> strip people accused of crimes
of rights that date as far back as the
> Magna Carta in Anglo-American jurisprudence: trial by impartial jury,
> access to lawyers and knowledge of evidence against them.
Liberal democrat FDR imprisoned over 100,000 Japanese Americans. Bush has
imprisoned Jose, who was evntually convicted. Gee, who violated more
American citizen's rights?
In dozens of
> statements when signing legislation, he has asserted the right to
> ignore the parts of laws with which he disagrees.
Which left wing hero Bill Clinton did with every executive order he signed,
since virtually all executive orders circumvent the authority of the
legislative branch. Besides idiots like you do all you can to undermine the
2nd amendment. WTF do you think the same can't be done to the rest of the
bill of rights? You should be all for it. Idiot's like you are the one's who
always get the ball rolling and then cry when it jumps up and hits you in
the nose.
His administration
> has adopted policies regarding the treatment of prisoners of war
Prisoners of war wear uniforms or clearly disignated insignia. Captured
insurgents fighting in civillian clothing are not prisoners of war and can
be summarily executed under the Geneva convention.
that
> have disgraced the nation and alienated virtually the entire world.
> Usually, during wartime, the Supreme Court has refrained from passing
> judgment on presidential actions related to national defense. The
> court's unprecedented rebukes of Bush's policies on detainees indicate
> how far the administration has strayed from the rule of law."
>
> "Historians are loath to predict the future. It is impossible to say
> with certainty how Bush will be ranked in, say, 2050. But somehow, in
> his first six years in office he has managed to combine the lapses of
> leadership, misguided policies and abuse of power of his failed
> predecessors. I think there is no alternative but to rank him as the
> worst president in U.S. history."
This is pretty much what 7 out of 10 people surveyed would have said about
Lincoln during or immediately after the civil war.
Siva
> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Oct 14, 6:20 pm, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >On Oct 14, 12:31 pm, "Scout"
> >> ><me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> >> >> "Siva" <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:1192381737.7...@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> >> > On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
> >> >> >> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
> >> >> >> >election
>
> >> >> >> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
> >> >> >> this country, as it should be.
>
> >> >> > And Gore was proven to win that, too.
>
> >> >>http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm
>
> >> >> So what is your evidence?
>
> >> >That's evidence of the APPOINTED Pres in 2000, NOT the one actually
> >> >winning the electoral vote,
>
> >> It shows Bush winning the Electoral vote. Can't you read a simple
> >> chart?
>
> >Nope,
>
> for eight years, and there's nothing you can do about it! LOL
And guntards are sure proud of their hero's record. . .
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=202920
Steve
"Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
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Hell Gore had already conceded the election and then retracted the
concession when he realized he might have a shot at stealing it. The theft
failed.
Siva
because the guntards' halfbaked brains can't handle the concept of
"statewide recounts"
If
> you really believe this crap how much of a gutless piece of shit do you have
> to be to let the election be stolen and not use force to take the country
> back? Do you even deserve the freedom you have?
Sure. We've been fighting the guntard hero's attempts to take it
away. . .
Siva
> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Oct 14, 6:21 pm, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >On Oct 14, 1:29 pm, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >They were when the GOP got its butt kicked in 2006 in Congress, but
> >> >> >now Dems can win even while asleep.
>
> >> >> Lucky for them, since they are asleep.
>
> >> >Pretty pathetic when the opposition kicks your ass even with their
> >> >eyes closed.
>
> >> Were their eyes closed in 2000 and 2004? LOL Your eyes are ALWAYS
> >> closed.
>
> >Nope, then they noticed as they warned everyone how pathetic a leader
> >the guntard hero would turn out to be. . .
>
> Too bad they didn't warn enough people. Bush is your president. LOL
>
> >. . .and they were right!
>
> >"Bush has
>
> remained your
burden for eight long years. That's true.
> Please tell me he's not
> REALLY president- so he can run again in 2008! LOL
LOL. I'd love to see that. Esp. with all the guntards and their down
syndrome offspring cheering him on!
Siva
> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Oct 14, 6:16 pm, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> I'm afraid he wasn't. That's why Gore is a washed-up has-been, and
> >> >> Bush is your president.
>
> >> >That's why Gore is a 2007 Nobel Prize winner
>
> >> ROFL Yassar Fucking Arafat won a Nobel prize. It doesn't take any
> >> special skill to win a Nobel Prize.
>
> >So easy that the guntards and their hero have won. . .
>
> >ZERO
>
> If anti-environment GORE can win, I fully expect Bush to win in a few
> years.
BWAHAHAHAHHAHHHHAHAHA! guntard optimism sure is strong
>
> >> >while the guntard hero is
> >> >facing a 69% disapproval rating after starting a discredited war w/a
> >> >Third World country the US military is now losing, while his ex-
> >> >generals call the whole thing a massive blunder.
>
> >> And he's STILL your president.
>
> >A fact which the majority of America is now pissed at.
>
> The majority doesn't matter. Don't you know ANYTHING about your
> country? It's ELECTORAL votes that count.
Oh sorry, a majority of STATES is now pissed at.
>
> >> And Gore is... unemployed?
>
> >With the prize money of a Nobel under his belt, and numerous speaking
> >engagements, can afford to be,
>
> Ah, speaking engagements. I'll bet the pool heater at his house is
> running full blast.....>> Oh, and he beat your war hero, too.
>
>
>
> >Correction: PEACE HERO.
>
> War hero. Kerry was a "war hero" remember? Yeah, If I were you, I'd
> try to forget, too. [snicker]
>
> >> Your mommy will tell you anything to make you feel good. Did she tell
> >> you natural gas was a renewable resource, too? [guffaw]
>
> >No, my Mommy is educated. She didn't marry her brother on the barn
>
> Right- she married him in the front room of the trailer.....
Is that the guntard tradition these days? I thought they just did it
in their Chevy pickup trucks.
(then again, with rising fuel costs. . .)
Siva
<me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> "Buck Mulligan" <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote in message
guntard logic of how snipping evidence makes it false.
Steve
You poor delusional nut Gore was lucky to get any recount by anybody. The
moron conceded the election almost immediately and then took it back. he
still lost. Deal with it.
Steve
"Siva" <pranc...@operamail.com> wrote in message
> Sure. We've been fighting the guntard hero's attempts to take it
WTF are you going to do? You don't believe in an armed populace and you have
no weapons. If Bush were half as bad as you idiots claim you would already
be in the gas chambers and you wouldn't do shit but cry and beg like the
bitch you are. As far as spying you delusional nuts are so insane you don't
have to worry about anybody spying on your ramblings. You'd get about the
same info by eavesdropping on any mental ward.
Scout
It doesn't.
http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm
You can read a chart, right?
Scout
Sure we can, Florida conducted one. Gore lost. He then proceeded with
attempting to fix the election by holding recounts in select areas (a
violation of Florida law) and otherwise violating the existing election
laws.
Scout
> On Oct 14, 8:01 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 14, 10:30 am, "Scout"<me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
>> wrote:
>> > "Siva" <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:1192379767....@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > > Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
>> > > winner of the popular vote in 2000
>>
>> > Which isn't how a President is elected, but hey, let's not allow facts
>> > to
>> > interfere with a good illogical rant.
>>
>> > > and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000 election based on the final recount
>>
>> > Outright lies, however, signal the end point of your rant.
>>
>> What else do you expect from Siva?
>>
>> Michael
>
> Oh do please point out which ones are lies.
No problem.
"...and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000 election based on the final recount"
and just to confirm what the final recount was.
http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm
Looks like Gore lost according to the final recount.
Scout
I've addressed your so called "evidence" with real facts as established by
the law. Further I've shown that Bush, not Gore, won the last recount and
hence your claim to the contrary is false. Indeed we cut Gore quite a bit of
slack because if the laws concerning the election were adhered to fully, he
would have lost several hundred thousand votes when the results in the 4
districts he was attempting to conduct the illegal recounts failed to
certify their results as called for by Florida statute.
"(3) If the returns are not received by the department by the time
specified, such returns shall be ignored and the results on file at that
time shall be certified by the department. "
After all, "....shall be ignored...." seems pretty cut and dried to me.
Buck Mulligan
Buck Mulligan
>Oh sorry, a majority of STATES is now pissed at.
A majority of states *ARE* pissed at. And Bush is STILL your
president. LOL
> >> Your mommy will tell you anything to make you feel good. Did she tell
>> >> you natural gas was a renewable resource, too? [guffaw]
>>
>> >No, my Mommy is educated. She didn't marry her brother on the barn
>>
>> Right- she married him in the front room of the trailer.....
>
>Is that the guntard tradition these days?
It's not heating our pools with natural gas and calling it a
"renewable resource." [chuckle]
Buck Mulligan
>> Please tell me he's not
>> REALLY president- so he can run again in 2008! LOL
>
>LOL. I'd love to see that.
I knew you were a Bush fan deep down inside....
Steve
Because he is mentally ill and off his meds "Siva"
<pranc...@operamail.com> wrote in message
OH stevie boy, you're slow. You better get with your fellow guntards
here and learn how to snip the evidence instead of reproducing it!
Babble on little loon. Bush is in the whitehouse Gore is......well wherever
the loser is... and it just kills you.
Scout
"Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
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>
>>On Oct 14, 12:30 pm, "Scout"
>><me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>> "Siva" <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>
>>> > Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
>>> > winner of the popular vote in 2000
>>>
>>> to
>>> interfere with a good illogical rant.
>>>
>>> > and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000 election based on the final recount
>>>
>>> Outright lies, however, signal the end point of your rant.
>>>
>
>>· Standard as set by each county Canvassing Board during their
>>survey Gore by 171
>
> Florida legislature, NOT by each county
>
>
>
> "(c) Any manual recount must be completed in accord with standards for
> counting chads that are uniform across the counties.The Legislature has
> directed: "The Department of State shall adopt rules prescribing standards
> for ballots used in electronic or electromechanical voting systems. Such
> standards shall ensure that ballots are counted in a uniform and
> consistent
> manner and shall include, without limitation, standards for the ...
> Scoring
> of ballots. FLA STAT.§101.5609(8) (emphasis added). See also
> FLA.STAT.§97.012 (the Secretary of State shall "Obtain and maintain
> uniformity in the application, operation, and interpretation of the
> election
> laws)."
>
> Strike Two.
>
>
>>· Fully punched chads and limited marks on optical ballots
>>Gore by
>>115
>>· Any dimples or optical mark Gore by 107
>>· One corner of chad detached or optical mark Gore by 60
>
>
>
> nor is one corner detached.
>
> "(b) "Any manual recount cannot count dimpled or pregnant chads. If a
> manual
> recount is done, it should not count a ballot as a vote unless the ballot
> left a "clear indication of the intent of the voter as determined by the
> canvassing board." FLA.STAT.§101.5614(5). See also FLA.STAT.
> §102.166(7)(b).
> This was previously determined by the only canvassing board to address the
> issue before this election, Palm Beach County, as meaning that chads could
> only be counted as votes if at least two corners were detatched, and not
> if
> the chad was merely dimpled or pregnant. See: Petitioner Exh. J. Prior to
> this election, no Florida county board had ever counted a dimpled or
> pregnant ballot as a vote."
>
> Strike THREEEEEeeeeee.
>
>
>
> You're OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> <snip>
I note that Siva has suddenly gotten very quiet. Must be the fact that
reality doesn't conform to it's fantasies.
br...@pobox.com
wrote:
>On Oct 14, 11:48 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns Siva <prancer...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Some things are too wonderful not to rub in. Here we have Al Gore,
>> >winner of the popular vote in 2000 and LEGITIMATE winner of the 2000
>> >election
>>
>> The popular vote doesn't mean shit. We use the electoral college in
>> this country, as it should be.
>
>And Gore was proven to win that, too.
Great! Now Gore has won TWO completely irrelevant things. The popular
vote and a Nobel Peace Prize.
>
>>
>> >And we all know what after that. The guntard hero failed miserably to
>> >prevent the first foreign attack on US soil in 50 years
>>
>> When a democrat was in the white house..... that one?
>>
>> >Now, while Gore basks in the reward for all his efforts
>>
>> basks at his energy-consuming house, which suck up more energy than,
>> oh, say, George Bush's energy-efficient ranch home.
>
>Except Gore pays for all his energy through the Green Switch program,
>which uses energy from renewable sources.
Which is bullshit intended to confuse the mindless like yourself.
Apparently it is working quite well.
>
>>
>> I hope Gore gets the award EVERY year. [snicker]
>
>Guntards hope they can at least win debates with 5 y/os.
Scout
I suppose this is the end of the troll Siva for a while. Reality tends to
totally screw up it's mental processes such as they are.
br...@pobox.com
Simple minded trash like Siva have to periodically touch base with the
Brady Bunch and load up with a new batch of talking points.
David Moffitt
<br...@pobox.com> wrote in message
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%%%% Al Gore gets his power from a coal fired plant in Gallatin Tn. for both
of his mansions. His "Green Switch program" is just a shell game where he
pays himself. There is no green power in hundreds of miles of Nashville Tn.
|
| >
| >>
| >> I hope Gore gets the award EVERY year. [snicker]
| >
| >Guntards hope they can at least win debates with 5 y/os.
%%%% It's not a problem winning against your 5 y/o mentality.
GILLETTE'S PRINCIPLE: "If you want to make people angry, lie. If you want to
make them absolutely livid with rage, tell the truth."
SaPeIsMa
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> > |
> | Great! Now Gore has won TWO completely irrelevant things. The popular
> | vote and a Nobel Peace Prize.
>
You forgot the 3rd
The Academy Award for "Best Documentary"
Just like the Nobel Peace price was devalued when Arafat got it
So the Oscar was devalued when Moore and Gore got it
|
> | >
> | >>
> | >> >And we all know what after that. The guntard hero failed miserably
> to
> | >> >prevent the first foreign attack on US soil in 50 years
> | >>
> | >> When a democrat was in the white house..... that one?
> | >>
> | >> >Now, while Gore basks in the reward for all his efforts
> | >>
> | >> basks at his energy-consuming house, which suck up more energy than,
> | >> oh, say, George Bush's energy-efficient ranch home.
> | >
> | >Except Gore pays for all his energy through the Green Switch program,
> | >which uses energy from renewable sources.
> |
> | Which is bullshit intended to confuse the mindless like yourself.
> | Apparently it is working quite well.
>
> %%%% Al Gore gets his power from a coal fired plant in Gallatin Tn. for
> both
> of his mansions. His "Green Switch program" is just a shell game where he
> pays himself. There is no green power in hundreds of miles of Nashville
> Tn.
>
It's all a scam