Re: War Crimes at Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Reality_CheckŠ
"Kayid Al-Kuffar" <Kaye...@gmail.com> wrote
War Crimes at Hiroshima and Nagasaki
by Jacob G. Hornberger,
Reports of killings of noncombatants during the Vietnam and Korean
Wars have recently caused Americans to reflect upon the concept of war
crimes, and specifically those committed by their own military forces.
But why stop with those two wars? Why not use the opportunity to
revisit what U.S. military forces did to the Japanese at Hiroshima and
Nagasaki in 1945, at the end of World War II?
The central idea behind the concept of war crimes is that even with
the brutality of war, there should be limits on the behavior of
combatants. Thus, over the centuries, warring nations have developed
the notion of what might be called “civilized rules of warfare.” While
the rules have evolved and changed over time, soldiers are expected to
abide by them even while doing their best to win the war by destroying
the enemy.
For example, under civilized rules of warfare, a soldier is not
permitted to rape either civilians or captive enemy soldiers. Any
soldier who commits a rape is guilty of a war crime and is subject to
being punished, either by his own government or by enemy forces.
Part of the rationale for the concept of war crimes is utilitarian —
if one side begins doing it, the other side might very well follow
suit. For example, if one army starts to torture and kill prisoners of
war, it knows that the other side might reciprocate. But another
rationale involves fundamental moral principles. While the argument
can certainly be made that war is hell and that victory should come at
any cost, a civilized people recognizes that oftentimes it is
important to maintain a sense of moral perspective even within the
horrors of war. Thus, even though barbarians on the other side might
begin torturing, mutilating, and raping their prisoners, a civilized
nation would refuse to follow their lead.
Torture and rape, however, are not the only forms of behavior that
have become known as war crimes. As we were reminded in Vietnam with
the My Lai killings and in Korea with the killings at No Gun Ri, the
concept of war crimes also precludes the intentional killings of
noncombatants, that is, unarmed civilians, including women and
children. Most everyone agrees that if soldiers round up defenseless
civilians and indiscriminately shoot them, the killings are morally
reprehensible and criminal. But why should the principle be any
different for a bomber pilot than it is for an infantryman? If a foot
soldier cannot rightfully kill defenseless women and children, why
should it be permissible for air force personnel to do so? Aren’t
women and children and other noncombatants just as dead whether
they’re killed by a bullet or a bomb?
The atomic bombs that U.S. military forces dropped on Hiroshima and
Nagasaki are estimated to have killed more than 200,000 Japanese
people, including women and children. Hardly anyone argues that these
two cities were targeted because of some special military purpose.
They were targeted to kill a large portion of the Japanese civilian
population in the hope of bringing about a quick surrender by the
Japanese government.
For more than five decades, U.S. government officials have justified
the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki by saying that the
bombings saved the lives of tens of thousands of American GIs by
shortening the war. But since when is that a justification for what is
ordinarily considered a war crime? If an infantryman is prohibited
from intentionally killing noncombatants, even to shorten the war, why
should air force personnel be treated any differently?
When a government commits a nation to war, it means that its soldiers
are going to have to fight and that some of them are going to have to
die. That’s the nature of war. And the intentional sacrifice of
defenseless women and children and other noncombatants in order to
save the lives of military personnel is cowardice, pure and simple.
And it’s a war crime as well.
Mr. Hornberger is founder and president of The Future of Freedom
Foundation (www.fff.org) in Fairfax, Va.
http://www.fff.org/comment/ed0501f.asp
Mr. Albritton
> Wars have recently caused Americans to reflect upon the concept of war
> crimes, and specifically those committed by their own military forces.
> But why stop with those two wars? Why not use the opportunity to
> revisit what U.S. military forces did to the Japanese at Hiroshima and
> Nagasaki in 1945, at the end of World War II?
Those two bombings, tragic as they were, stopped Japan from any further
attacks. Had we not done it, they would have kept going with the war.
We should do the same thing with Iran.
Reality_CheckŠ
"Mr. Albritton" <albri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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May someone do it to you and yours ... soon.
a425couple
> The central idea behind the concept of war crimes is that even with
> the brutality of war, there should be limits on the behavior of
> combatants. Thus, over the centuries, warring nations have developed
> the notion of what might be called "civilized rules of warfare."
Yes, so the first thing I'd suggest to you, Al-Kuffar, and Hornberger,
is to look at the laws that existed at that time.
Those bombings were legal and allowed.
Both cities had major military targets.
Japan had not even tried to call them "Open Cities."
Reality_CheckŠ
"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Reality_Check©" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote ...
>> "Kayid Al-Kuffar" <Kaye...@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>> War Crimes at Hiroshima and Nagasaki
>> by Jacob G. Hornberger, ------
>> The central idea behind the concept of war crimes is that even with
>> the brutality of war, there should be limits on the behavior of
>> combatants. Thus, over the centuries, warring nations have developed
>> the notion of what might be called "civilized rules of warfare."
>
> Yes, so the first thing I'd suggest to you, Al-Kuffar, and Hornberger,
> is to look at the laws that existed at that time.
>
> Those bombings were legal and allowed.
Doesn't make them moral or ethical, scumbag.
> Both cities had major military targets.
> Japan had not even tried to call them "Open Cities."
So it's ok to drop NUCLEAR BOMBS on CIVILIAN population centers
killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the process?
The enemies of the U$$A will be glad to hear that when they plan their
next 9.11 style "pre-emptive" strike against YOU city, scumbag.
Mr. Albritton
>
> May someone do it to you and yours ... soon.
Come and get me.
Reality_CheckŠ
>>> We should do the same thing with Iran.
>>
>> May someone do it to you and yours ... soon.
>
> Come and get me.
The men in the white jackets will be over shortly ... nutter.
Mr. Albritton
>>
>> Come and get me.
>
> The men in the white jackets will be over shortly ... nutter.
So?
Reality_CheckŠ
"Anybody ever tell you that your mouth is 1000 times
more sexy when the rabid foam starts showing?"
-- "Mr. Albritton" <albri...@hotmail.com>
tankfixer
>
> "a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Ka6dnXoT1tzfPQLV...@comcast.com...
> > "Reality_Check©" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote ...
> >> "Kayid Al-Kuffar" <Kaye...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>
> >> War Crimes at Hiroshima and Nagasaki
> >> by Jacob G. Hornberger, ------
> >> The central idea behind the concept of war crimes is that even with
> >> the brutality of war, there should be limits on the behavior of
> >> combatants. Thus, over the centuries, warring nations have developed
> >> the notion of what might be called "civilized rules of warfare."
> >
> > Yes, so the first thing I'd suggest to you, Al-Kuffar, and Hornberger,
> > is to look at the laws that existed at that time.
> >
> > Those bombings were legal and allowed.
>
> Doesn't make them moral or ethical, scumbag.
>
> > Both cities had major military targets.
> > Japan had not even tried to call them "Open Cities."
>
> So it's ok to drop NUCLEAR BOMBS on CIVILIAN population centers
> killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the process?
It's called war.
>
> The enemies of the U$$A will be glad to hear that when they plan their
> next 9.11 style "pre-emptive" strike against YOU city, scumbag.
Boy will you be pissed when the flash goes on in your city....
--
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things.
The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic
feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.
The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight,
nothing which is more important than his own personal safety,
is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless
made so and kept so by the exertions of much better men than himself.
John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873) English economist and philosopher.
Reality_CheckŠ
"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
news:MPG.23095b8d9...@nntp.earthlink.net...> >> "Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote ...
> >>> "Kayid Al-Kuffar" <Kaye...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>
> >>> War Crimes at Hiroshima and Nagasaki
> >>> by Jacob G. Hornberger, ------
> >>> The central idea behind the concept of war crimes is that even with
> >>> the brutality of war, there should be limits on the behavior of
> >>> combatants. Thus, over the centuries, warring nations have developed
> >>> the notion of what might be called "civilized rules of warfare."
> >>
> >> Yes, so the first thing I'd suggest to you, Al-Kuffar, and Hornberger,
> >> is to look at the laws that existed at that time.
> >>
> >> Those bombings were legal and allowed.
>>
>> Doesn't make them moral or ethical, scumbag.
>>
> >> Both cities had major military targets.
>> > Japan had not even tried to call them "Open Cities."
>>
>> So it's ok to drop NUCLEAR BOMBS on CIVILIAN population centers
>> killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the process?
>
> It's called war.
Civilized societies call it war CRIME.
.
Al. E. Gator Esq.
"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
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>
> "a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Ka6dnXoT1tzfPQLV...@comcast.com...
It's called war.
--
so when is your fat,gutless, overfed,unemployed, miserable creature ass
going to
fight for your freedom there goober, and all the rest of the gutless
hillbillies here
waiting around with their thumbs up their asses for some "GIRL", poor kid,
or minority
to do the fighting for you ?
LMAO at you gutless, cut and run, run and hide, bitter,clinging, loud mouth
cowards hiding under mama's dress,
get those bush bitches and those romney cocksuckers to go with you,
really, we don't need you here, go eat an IED or a sniper bullet for your
fuerhers
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Ha Ha Ha
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Ha Ha Ha
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Ha Ha Ha
better you than me gomer, I got's $$$$$$ to make
Mr. Albritton
"Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote in message
news:6g9opcF...@mid.individual.net...
So?
You're so damn stupid that you can't think for yourself, come up with
anything original, or even reasonably justify why you hate guns so much?
Your mommy didn't hug you enough as a child, did she?
P.S. I still have my guns... and there isn't a damn thing you can do about
it.
tankfixer
>
> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
> news:MPG.23095b8d9...@nntp.earthlink.net...
> > Rea...@Check.it says...
> >> "a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >>> "Kayid Al-Kuffar" <Kaye...@gmail.com> wrote
> > >>>
> > >>> War Crimes at Hiroshima and Nagasaki
> > >>> by Jacob G. Hornberger, ------
> > >>> The central idea behind the concept of war crimes is that even with
> > >>> the brutality of war, there should be limits on the behavior of
> > >>> combatants. Thus, over the centuries, warring nations have developed
> > >>> the notion of what might be called "civilized rules of warfare."
> > >>
> > >> Yes, so the first thing I'd suggest to you, Al-Kuffar, and Hornberger,
> > >> is to look at the laws that existed at that time.
> > >>
> > >> Those bombings were legal and allowed.
> >>
> >> Doesn't make them moral or ethical, scumbag.
> >>
> > >> Both cities had major military targets.
> >> > Japan had not even tried to call them "Open Cities."
> >>
> >> So it's ok to drop NUCLEAR BOMBS on CIVILIAN population centers
> >> killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the process?
> >
> > It's called war.
>
> Civilized societies call it war CRIME.
So what is your solution to end WW2 ?
tankfixer
Gator Esq." <ObamaCroc08.net> says...
>
> so when is your fat,gutless, overfed,unemployed, miserable creature ass
> going to
> fight for your freedom there goober, and all the rest of the gutless
> hillbillies here
> waiting around with their thumbs up their asses for some "GIRL", poor kid,
> or minority
> to do the fighting for you ?
It must piss you off that all those folks you describe are better
qualified to serve than you ever will be.
>
>
> LMAO at you gutless, cut and run, run and hide, bitter,clinging, loud mouth
> cowards hiding under mama's dress,
>
> get those bush bitches and those romney cocksuckers to go with you,
>
> really, we don't need you here, go eat an IED or a sniper bullet for your
> fuerhers
>
> Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
> Ha Ha Ha
> Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
> Ha Ha Ha
> Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
> Ha Ha Ha
>
> better you than me gomer, I got's $$$$$$ to make
One your back, just like your mother.
tankfixer
@hotmail.com says...
>
> "Reality_Check©" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote in message
> >
> > "Mr. Albritton" <albri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:g7oa8c$n01$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
> >>>>> May someone do it to you and yours ... soon.
> >>>>
> >>>> Come and get me.
> >>>
> >>> The men in the white jackets will be over shortly ... nutter.
> >>
> >> So?
> >
> > "Anybody ever tell you that your mouth is 1000 times
> > more sexy when the rabid foam starts showing?"
> > -- "Mr. Albritton" <albri...@hotmail.com>
>
> So?
>
> You're so damn stupid that you can't think for yourself, come up with
> anything original, or even reasonably justify why you hate guns so much?
>
> Your mommy didn't hug you enough as a child, did she?
Not even when she left him at the crack dealers house where she traded
him in for a vial.
Reality_CheckŠ
"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
> Rea...@Check.it says...
>>
>> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
> >>>
> >>> So it's ok to drop NUCLEAR BOMBS on CIVILIAN population centers
> >>> killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the process?
> >>
> >> It's called war.
> >
>> Civilized societies call it war CRIME.
>
> So what is your solution to end WW2 ?
Utterly irrelevant.
Al. E. Gator Esq.
going to do with those guns either, if yall had any balls,
you'd take them guns on over to that ruckus and let those teenaged freedom
fighting girls kick your ass and
take them away from you,
you fat ass hillbillies are gonna run those big mouths and wave those
worthless shootin irons trying to act like men,
BBBBBBWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH,
we have seen what you gomers got there boy, and it ain't shit
Al. E. Gator Esq.
"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
> In article <FaCdnRX_YKgaIgLV...@comcast.com>, "Al. E.
> Gator Esq." <ObamaCroc08.net> says...
>>
>> so when is your fat,gutless, overfed,unemployed, miserable creature ass
>> going to
>> fight for your freedom there goober, and all the rest of the gutless
>> hillbillies here
>> waiting around with their thumbs up their asses for some "GIRL", poor
>> kid,
>> or minority
>> to do the fighting for you ?
>
> It must piss you off that all those folks you describe are better
> qualified to serve than you ever will be.
nice evasion there el coward hillbilly, typical of you gutless, dick sucking
bitches,
it must be terrible to be a yellow coward eh goober ?
that why yall be a clingin to them thar useless
shootin irons, yall ain't a got the balls to use ?
does it make you BITTER ?
BBBBBBWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhh
yall must feel like those two yellow cocksucking cowards in that ther white
house
with the cement pond
tankfixer
Gator Esq." <ObamaCroc08.net> says...
> yellow cocksucking coward
tankfixer
>
> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
> > Rea...@Check.it says...
> >>
> >> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
> >> > Rea...@Check.it says...
> > >>>
> > >>> So it's ok to drop NUCLEAR BOMBS on CIVILIAN population centers
> > >>> killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the process?
> > >>
> > >> It's called war.
> > >
> >> Civilized societies call it war CRIME.
> >
> > So what is your solution to end WW2 ?
>
> Utterly irrelevant.
Don't you get sand in your ears standing there like that ?
Head in the sand an all..
th...@anhywhere.usa
<paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote:
>In article <48mdnbfot6VbVgLV...@comcast.com>, "Al. E.
>Gator Esq." <ObamaCroc08.net> says...
>
>> yellow cocksucking coward
You're wasting your time on Alzhemier E.
Gator,Tank.He doesn't have the mental capacity to absorb anything
above the 6th Grade level.
Too much aluminum-producing toxins in his system is now curdling his
brain. His posts show the classic mental deterioration of Alzheimer's
patients: dementia, loss of capaicty for lineal thought, resort to
scatalogical terms to express his feelings, pathological hatred of
certain ethnic groups. The Alzheimer's Ward of an Assisted Living
Facility is in his near futrue, if he is not already so situated.
Al. E. Gator Esq.
<th...@anhywhere.usa> wrote in message
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you guys living together or what ?
and,
is this the best the two of you can come up with ?
surrender now
Al. E. Gator Esq.
you hillbillies sure go ballistic if the right buttons are pushed often
enough,
so let me ask your evading,clinging, bitter, cutting and running ass for the
3rd time :
so when is your fat,gutless, overfed,unemployed, miserable creature ass
going to
fight for your freedom there goober, and all the rest of the gutless
hillbillies here
waiting around with their thumbs up their asses for some "GIRL", poor kid,
or minority
to do the fighting for you ?
LMAO at you gutless, cut and run, run and hide, bitter,clinging, loud mouth
cowards hiding under mama's dress,
get those bush bitches and those romney cocksuckers to go with you,
really, we don't need you here, go eat an IED or a sniper bullet for your
fuerhers
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Ha Ha Ha
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Ha Ha Ha
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Ha Ha Ha
better you than me gomer, I got's $$$$$$ to make
"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
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_ Prof. Jonez _
> In article <g7ofh1$kti$1...@registered.motzarella.org>, albritton77
> @hotmail.com says...
>>
>> news:6g9opcF...@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> "Mr. Albritton" <albri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:g7oa8c$n01$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>>>> May someone do it to you and yours ... soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Come and get me.
>>>>>
>>>>> The men in the white jackets will be over shortly ... nutter.
>>>>
>>>> So?
>>>
>>> "Anybody ever tell you that your mouth is 1000 times
>>> more sexy when the rabid foam starts showing?"
>>> -- "Mr. Albritton" <albri...@hotmail.com>
>>
>> So?
>>
>> You're so damn stupid that you can't think for yourself, come up with
>> anything original, or even reasonably justify why you hate guns so
>> much?
>>
>> Your mommy didn't hug you enough as a child, did she?
>
> Not even when she left him at the crack dealers house where she traded
> him in for a vial.
Shouldn't you be out eating IED shrapnel for the criminal Bu$h Mob's LIES ?
Click ... Click ... BOOM!
_ Prof. Jonez _
> In article <6g9v8rF...@mid.individual.net>, Rea...@Check.it
> says...
>>
>> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
>>> Rea...@Check.it says...
>>>>
>>>> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
>>>>> Rea...@Check.it says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it's ok to drop NUCLEAR BOMBS on CIVILIAN population centers
>>>>>> killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the process?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's called war.
>>>>
>>>> Civilized societies call it war CRIME.
>>>
>>> So what is your solution to end WW2 ?
>>
>> Utterly irrelevant.
>
> Don't you get sand in your ears standing there like that ?
> Head in the sand an all..
Stay behind the Green Zone, Paul ... it's dangerous out there.
ßDoüg±Ç
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A barely literate moron inscribed the above.
Jack G.
> "Al. E. Gator Esq." <ObamaCroc08.net> wrote in messagenews:AN2dnTbwqcp0wj3V...@comcast.com...
We must know who the supports Obama.
Hugo Chacez
Jimmy Carter
Hamas
Jonez
The Croc
and the rest of the ash and trash that are called Democrats.
th...@anhywhere.usa
Ignore him. He's an Alzheimer's patient. I've seen too many of them
not to notice the symptoms.
Dementia Praecocx is also a symptom, and he shows that strongly.
Jack G.
The truth hurts. Obama has the backing of all the Communist countries
plus the people who live under bridges and call themselves Democrats.
Truth...@nospam.net
08/11/2008
>On Aug 11, 12:02 pm, "ßDoüg±Ç" <noün...@now.com> wrote:
>> "Al. E. Gator Esq." <ObamaCroc08.net> wrote in messagenews:An2dntbwqcp0wj3v...@comcast.com...
What you mean is; All the American's that don't fit the mold of the "Good
American's" who vote right wing.
...all of whom are like the "Good Germans" who voted for Hitler.
Reality_CheckŠ
"Jack G." <jgra...@pioneernet.net> wrote in message
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===========
"As I said yesterday, that Russia is not an enemy. There needs to be no
military response because we're not at war with Russia. ... I don't think
Vladimir Putin intends to attack Russia -- I mean, Europe. So I'll talk to
him about it, but it's -- if he's saying the missile defense system is a
threat to us, our -- the need, therefore, is to make clear there is not. "
-- G aWol Bush, the idiot chimp
Al. E. Gator Esq.
"ßDoüg±Ç" <noün...@now.com> wrote in message
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seen the writing on the wall ?
the era of hillbilly fuckups is almost over
Al. E. Gator Esq.
and we're tired of supporting you losing,failing, inbred, unemployable,
drunken
hillbilly fuckups and your jew and corporate masters,
the end is near goober
tankfixer
says...
Like I said, head in the sand.
Or are you reduced to making threats on USENET ?
tankfixer
says...
> tankfixer wrote:
> > In article <g7ofh1$kti$1...@registered.motzarella.org>, albritton77
> > @hotmail.com says...
> >>
> >> news:6g9opcF...@mid.individual.net...
> >>>
> >>> "Mr. Albritton" <albri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:g7oa8c$n01$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
> >>>>>>> May someone do it to you and yours ... soon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Come and get me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The men in the white jackets will be over shortly ... nutter.
> >>>>
> >>>> So?
> >>>
> >>> "Anybody ever tell you that your mouth is 1000 times
> >>> more sexy when the rabid foam starts showing?"
> >>> -- "Mr. Albritton" <albri...@hotmail.com>
> >>
> >> So?
> >>
> >> You're so damn stupid that you can't think for yourself, come up with
> >> anything original, or even reasonably justify why you hate guns so
> >> much?
> >>
> >> Your mommy didn't hug you enough as a child, did she?
> >
> > Not even when she left him at the crack dealers house where she traded
> > him in for a vial.
>
> Shouldn't you be out eating IED shrapnel for the criminal Bu$h Mob's LIES ?
tankfixer
th...@anhywhere.usa says...
And here I thought it was his family tree.
Here I'll show you what it Looks like...
tankfixer
Gator Esq." <ObamaCroc08.net> says...
> better you than me gomer, I got's $$$$$$ to make
Working the strip again are you ?
tankfixer
Still upright this late in the month ?
I'd figured the drugs would have you laid out in the gutter by now
Al. E. Gator Esq.
"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
> In article <t1k0a4p36ebsuieof...@4ax.com>,
> th...@anhywhere.usa says...
>> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:19:34 -0700, tankfixer
>> <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <48mdnbfot6VbVgLV...@comcast.com>, "Al. E.
>> >Gator Esq." <ObamaCroc08.net> says...
>> >
>> >> yellow cocksucking coward
>> You're wasting your time on Alzhemier E.
>> Gator,Tank.He doesn't have the mental capacity to absorb anything
>> above the 6th Grade level.
>> Too much aluminum-producing toxins in his system is now curdling his
>> brain. His posts show the classic mental deterioration of Alzheimer's
>> patients: dementia, loss of capaicty for lineal thought, resort to
>> scatalogical terms to express his feelings, pathological hatred of
>> certain ethnic groups. The Alzheimer's Ward of an Assisted Living
>> Facility is in his near futrue, if he is not already so situated.
>
>
> And here I thought it was his family tree.
> Here I'll show you what it Looks like...
>
>
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> --
>
it's what got that texass
cocksucking retard elected twice,
you and the rest of the imbeciles who voted for the chimping chump deserve
what you got, FUCKED,
while your wealthy owners are laughing their rich asses off at you gullible
sheep,
if you get the mccunt hillbilly, you'll get even more of a butt fucking than
you already have,
NOTHING will get any better, things will only go from bad to unbelievable
and
yall will deserve that too
so keep running those big mouths, you cain't afford to run the air
conditioner, furnace, or those pickup trucks
that take $100+ to fill up,
you can't afford to retire because the health care cost is unaffordable,
can't afford to get sick,
buy a boat,camper, vacation,etc.,etc.,
but those hillbillies conning your asses can buy whatever they want
including your republican politicians
Al. E. Gator Esq.
"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
> In article <AN2dnTbwqcp0wj3V...@comcast.com>, "Al. E.
> Gator Esq." <ObamaCroc08.net> says...
>
>> better you than me gomer, I got's $$$$$$ to make
>
> Working the strip again are you ?
Still the same old shit goober, ain't got anywhere to go, nothing to do ?
because you can't afford to fill up that F150 ?
yall keep flapping those jaws gomer, see if the mccunt bitch and his and
your corporate owners
will throw you a few crumbs
Chris Morton
>
>
>"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:Ka6dnXoT1tzfPQLV...@comcast.com...
>> "Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote ...
>>> "Kayid Al-Kuffar" <Kaye...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>> War Crimes at Hiroshima and Nagasaki
>>> by Jacob G. Hornberger, ------
>>> The central idea behind the concept of war crimes is that even with
>>> the brutality of war, there should be limits on the behavior of
>>> combatants. Thus, over the centuries, warring nations have developed
>>> the notion of what might be called "civilized rules of warfare."
>>
>> Yes, so the first thing I'd suggest to you, Al-Kuffar, and Hornberger,
>> is to look at the laws that existed at that time.
>>
>> Those bombings were legal and allowed.
>
>Doesn't make them moral or ethical, scumbag.
No, it was the previous actions of the Japanese that made them moral and
ethical, cheerleader for human vivisection.
--
Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with
210lb. rapists.
Chris Morton
>>> So it's ok to drop NUCLEAR BOMBS on CIVILIAN population centers
>>> killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the process?
>>
>> It's called war.
>
>Civilized societies call it war CRIME.
You mean like the "civilized society" which committed the Rape of Nanking?
Here's a clue for you Tsuji:
The definition of "war crime" is NOT "When the calculated actions of Japanese
come back to bite them in the ass".
Chris Morton
>
>
>"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
>>>
>>> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
>> >>>
>> >>> So it's ok to drop NUCLEAR BOMBS on CIVILIAN population centers
>> >>> killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the process?
>> >>
>> >> It's called war.
>> >
>>> Civilized societies call it war CRIME.
>>
>
>Utterly irrelevant.
Your "solution" is the victory of Japanese militarism, mass slavery, mass rape,
human vivisection and genocide against the Chinese.
Gray Ghost
@mid.individual.net:
>
> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
>> Rea...@Check.it says...
>>>
>>> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
>>> > Rea...@Check.it says...
>> >>>
>> >>> So it's ok to drop NUCLEAR BOMBS on CIVILIAN population centers
>> >>> killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the process?
>> >>
>> >> It's called war.
>> >
>>> Civilized societies call it war CRIME.
>>
>> So what is your solution to end WW2 ?
>
> Utterly irrelevant.
>
Not quite. You have claimed that the atomic bombing of Hiroshima was ammoral.
You have bravely and anonymously sputtered profanities at everyone who
disagrees with you.
It is absolutely the point. To criticize the decision and then abrogate any
responsibility for alternatives is a morally and intellectually bankrupt.
Fortuneately, people like you are irrelevant, your vicious langauge will turn
off most civilized and rational people leaving you a minority on none. For
all your anonymous bluster your are meaningless.
_ Prof. Jonez _
> In article <6gb87nF...@mid.individual.net>, the...@jonez.net
> says...
>> tankfixer wrote:
>>> In article <6g9v8rF...@mid.individual.net>, Rea...@Check.it
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
>>>>> Rea...@Check.it says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
>>>>>>> Rea...@Check.it says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So it's ok to drop NUCLEAR BOMBS on CIVILIAN population centers
>>>>>>>> killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the
>>>>>>>> process?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's called war.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Civilized societies call it war CRIME.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what is your solution to end WW2 ?
>>>>
>>>> Utterly irrelevant.
>>>
>>> Don't you get sand in your ears standing there like that ?
>>> Head in the sand an all..
>>
>> Stay behind the Green Zone, Paul ... it's dangerous out there.
>
> Like I said, head in the sand.
This from a rear-echelon warmongering chickenhawk.
> Or are you reduced to making threats on USENET ?
Your delusion is showing again.
Reality_CheckŠ
"Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> "Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote >>
>> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
>>> Rea...@Check.it says...
>>>>
>>>> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
>>>> > Rea...@Check.it says...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> So it's ok to drop NUCLEAR BOMBS on CIVILIAN population centers
>>> >>> killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the process?
>>> >>
>>> >> It's called war.
>>> >
>>>> Civilized societies call it war CRIME.
>>>
>>> So what is your solution to end WW2 ?
>>
>> Utterly irrelevant.
>>
>
> Not quite.
Utterly.
> You have claimed that the atomic bombing of Hiroshima was ammoral.
All moral people do so.
> You have bravely and anonymously sputtered profanities at everyone who
> disagrees with you.
Only towards lowlife amoral chickenshit warmongering cowards like you.
> It is absolutely the point.
No, you're wrong yet again.
Reality_CheckŠ
"Deadrat" <a...@b.com> wrote in message
news:bRiok.35607$ZE5....@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Chris Morton <cmo...@newsguy.com> wrote in
>> In article <6g9m45F...@mid.individual.net>, Reality_CheckŠ says...
>>>"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:Ka6dnXoT1tzfPQLV...@comcast.com...
>>>> "Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote ...
>>>>> "Kayid Al-Kuffar" <Kaye...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>> War Crimes at Hiroshima and Nagasaki
>>>>> by Jacob G. Hornberger, ------
>>>>> The central idea behind the concept of war crimes is that even with
>>>>> the brutality of war, there should be limits on the behavior of
>>>>> combatants. Thus, over the centuries, warring nations have
>>>>> developed the notion of what might be called "civilized rules of
>>>>> warfare."
>>>>
>>>> Hornberger is to look at the laws that existed at that time.
>>>>
>>>> Those bombings were legal and allowed.
>>>
>>>Doesn't make them moral or ethical, scumbag.
>>
>> No, it was the previous actions of the Japanese
>
> Japanese" is a convenient metaphorical construct, and such abstractions
> have no will and do not act. Some *actual* Japanese acted heinously,
> and those who did, those who directed them, and those who tolerated them
> violated moral and ethical standards.
>
>> that made them moral and ethical,
>
> punished for the actions of those who did. It is an odder ethical
> universe in which the immoral actions of others justify one's own
> indulgence in the same actions.
>
>> cheerleader for human vivisection.
>
> Please explain how the criticism of American actions can be interpreted
> as the endorsement for any Japanese actions.
>
> You are a very confused person.
Just another pig-ignorant lowlife amoral shiteating Repugnikkkan.
Gray Ghost
@mid.individual.net:
Another intelligent, thoughtful, highminded commercial for Obama 2008.
--
From: "_ Prof. Jonez _" <the...@jonez.net>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-
limbaugh,talk.politics.guns,alt.politics,talk.politics.misc,us.military.army
Subject: Re: In the last 45 years america has THREE TIMES invaded tiny
defenseless countries that never did anything to us and murdered a million
innocent people
"_ Prof. Jonez _" <the...@jonez.net> wrote in news:6ge86lFf8ltgU1
@mid.individual.net:
That the U$$A *deserved* 9.11 ... at the very least.
Gray Ghost
@mid.individual.net:
>> You have claimed that the atomic bombing of Hiroshima was ammoral.
>
> All moral people do so.
But why?
If we had sent 500 B-29s and burned out the city, with more likely a higher
death count would that have been better?
You see child, you cannot make such a claim in a vacuum like the one between
your ears, you must qualify it or be laughed at.
Reality_CheckŠ
> "Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote in news:6gep8uFfk6bvU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>>> You have claimed that the atomic bombing of Hiroshima was ammoral.
>>
>> All moral people do so.
>
> But why?
If you have to ask why, then you're devoid of any morality. But we already
knew that.
tankfixer
> tankfixer wrote:
> > In article <6gb87nF...@mid.individual.net>, the...@jonez.net
> > says...
> >> tankfixer wrote:
> >>> In article <6g9v8rF...@mid.individual.net>, Rea...@Check.it
> >>> says...
> >>>>
> >>>> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
> >>>>> Rea...@Check.it says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> Rea...@Check.it says...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So it's ok to drop NUCLEAR BOMBS on CIVILIAN population centers
> >>>>>>>> killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the
> >>>>>>>> process?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It's called war.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Civilized societies call it war CRIME.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So what is your solution to end WW2 ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Utterly irrelevant.
> >>>
> >>> Don't you get sand in your ears standing there like that ?
> >>> Head in the sand an all..
> >>
> >> Stay behind the Green Zone, Paul ... it's dangerous out there.
> >
> > Like I said, head in the sand.
>
> This from a rear-echelon warmongering chickenhawk.
> > Or are you reduced to making threats on USENET ?
>
> Your delusion is showing again.
Showing you for what you are.
tankfixer
>
> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
> news:MPG.230abb954...@nntp.earthlink.net...
> > In article <AN2dnTbwqcp0wj3V...@comcast.com>, "Al. E.
> > Gator Esq." <ObamaCroc08.net> says...
> >
> >> better you than me gomer, I got's $$$$$$ to make
> >
> > Working the strip again are you ?
>
>
>
> Still the same old shit goober, ain't got anywhere to go, nothing to do ?
I'm just here playing with the dog.
>
> because you can't afford to fill up that F150 ?
>
> yall keep flapping those jaws gomer, see if the mccunt bitch and his and
> your corporate owners will throw you a few crumbs
Fetch biotch
Al. E. Gator Esq.
"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
> In article <pfOdnc0H9qESgjzV...@comcast.com>, "Al. E.
> Gator Esq." <ObamaCroc08.net> says...
>>
>> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.230abb954...@nntp.earthlink.net...
>> > In article <AN2dnTbwqcp0wj3V...@comcast.com>, "Al. E.
>> > Gator Esq." <ObamaCroc08.net> says...
>> >
>> >> better you than me gomer, I got's $$$$$$ to make
>> >
>> > Working the strip again are you ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Still the same old shit goober, ain't got anywhere to go, nothing to do ?
>
> I'm just here playing with the dog.
>
got a gay dog eh goober ?
you know us liberals, whatever you and the dog do in the privacy of your own
trailer is your business,
as long as the dog doesn't mind
tankfixer
>
> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
> news:MPG.230bf1744...@nntp.earthlink.net...
> > In article <pfOdnc0H9qESgjzV...@comcast.com>, "Al. E.
> > Gator Esq." <ObamaCroc08.net> says...
> >>
> >> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.230abb954...@nntp.earthlink.net...
> >> > In article <AN2dnTbwqcp0wj3V...@comcast.com>, "Al. E.
> >> > Gator Esq." <ObamaCroc08.net> says...
> >> >
> >> >> better you than me gomer, I got's $$$$$$ to make
> >> >
> >> > Working the strip again are you ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Still the same old shit goober, ain't got anywhere to go, nothing to do ?
> >
> > I'm just here playing with the dog.
> >
>
> got a gay dog eh goober ?
>
> you know us liberals, whatever you and the dog do in the privacy of your own
> trailer is your business,
> as long as the dog doesn't mind
Fetch BOY
Al. E. Gator Esq.
"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
> In article <j8mdnZAWybdtyD_V...@comcast.com>, "Al. E.
> Gator Esq." <ObamaCroc08.net> says...
>>
>> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.230bf1744...@nntp.earthlink.net...
>> > In article <pfOdnc0H9qESgjzV...@comcast.com>, "Al. E.
>> > Gator Esq." <ObamaCroc08.net> says...
>> >>
>> >> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
>> >> news:MPG.230abb954...@nntp.earthlink.net...
>> >> > In article <AN2dnTbwqcp0wj3V...@comcast.com>, "Al. E.
>> own
>> trailer is your business,
>> as long as the dog doesn't mind
>
>
> Fetch BOY
>
give it up junior goober, you and the rest of these
hillbilly retards are no match for me, wave that
shit stained, ass wiping confederate surrender flag gomer, it's got plenty
of
experience giving up
to it's Yankee masters,
and yall be right spry about it too,
step and fetch me a cold drink, sweet tea, while you're not busy there el
goober, and a moon pie, and one of those waffle
house cheese steak, heart attack on a plate, omelets
_ Prof. Jonez _
Figures a cowardly warmongering chickenhawk like
you would be hiding safely in the quartermasters depot
at the rear-echelon.
Got any "up-armor" for those pesky IEDs ?
Click ...
Click ...
BOOM!
>
>
>
>>> Or are you reduced to making threats on USENET ?
>>
>> Your delusion is showing again.
>
> Showing you for what you are.
So where's the "threat", eh coward?
Gray Ghost
@mid.individual.net:
No you are avoiding the question, which suggests that you have no real
answer.
If 500 B-29s had fire bomber Hiroshima abd nore people had dies as a result,
would that have been more moral.
You have taken a pretty strong and unwavering stand on this. One would think
an intelligent man could explain his position. Unless of course you really
are an autistic macaw simply repeating lines fed to you by your keeper.
Yuo certainly think 9/11 was OK. How can that be moral and Hiroshima immoral?
_ Prof. Jonez _
> "Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote in news:6gf1h7Ffjc3qU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>>
>> "Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9AF8E345559E5We...@216.196.97.142...
>>> "Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote in news:6gep8uFfk6bvU1
>>> @mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>>> You have claimed that the atomic bombing of Hiroshima was ammoral.
>>>>
>>>> All moral people do so.
>>>
>>> But why?
>>
>> If you have to ask why, then you're devoid of any morality. But we
>> already knew that.
>>
>>
>
> No you are avoiding the question, which suggests that you have no real
> answer.
What it suggests is that you failed to pose a relevant question.
Chris Morton
>
>
>"Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> "Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote >>
>>> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
>>>> Rea...@Check.it says...
>>>>>
>>>>> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
>>>>> > Rea...@Check.it says...
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> So it's ok to drop NUCLEAR BOMBS on CIVILIAN population centers
>>>> >>> killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the process?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It's called war.
>>>> >
>>>>> Civilized societies call it war CRIME.
>>>>
>>>> So what is your solution to end WW2 ?
>>>
>>> Utterly irrelevant.
>>>
>>
>> Not quite.
>
>Utterly.
>
>> You have claimed that the atomic bombing of Hiroshima was ammoral.
>
There, fixed that for you.
Chris Morton
If you claim that, but can't say WHY, then you're a simpleton and a coward.
Chris Morton
What it DEMONSTRATES is that you're a coward.
Reality_CheckŠ
"Chris Morton" <cmo...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:g7vam...@drn.newsguy.com...
> _ Prof. Jonez _ says...
>>Gray Ghost wrote:
>>> "Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote in
>>>> news:Xns9AF8E345559E5We...@216.196.97.142...
>>>>> "Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote
>>>>>>> You have claimed that the atomic bombing of Hiroshima was ammoral.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All moral people do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> But why?
>>>>
>>>> If you have to ask why, then you're devoid of any morality. But we
>>>> already knew that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> No you are avoiding the question, which suggests that you have no real
>>> answer.
>>
>>What it suggests is that you failed to pose a relevant question.
>
> What it DEMONSTRATES is that you're a coward.
You're lying again, amoral shitwipe.
> Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight
> with
> 210lb. rapists.
Gun-loon theory, that 110lb women ex-offenders have the "right" to fistfight
with
250lb rapists.
Chris Morton
>>>What it suggests is that you failed to pose a relevant question.
>>
>> What it DEMONSTRATES is that you're a coward.
>
>You're lying again, amoral shitwipe.
If you weren't a coward, you'd be willing and able to answer the question. You
ARE a coward.
>Gun-loon theory, that 110lb women ex-offenders have the "right" to fistfight
>with
>250lb rapists.
Lay off the sterno, alky.
--
Gray Ghost
@mid.individual.net:
"If 500 B-29s had fire bomber Hiroshima abd nore people had dies as a result,
would that have been more moral.
"You have taken a pretty strong and unwavering stand on this. One would think
an intelligent man could explain his position. Unless of course you really
are an autistic macaw simply repeating lines fed to you by your keeper.
"You certainly think 9/11 was OK. How can that be moral and Hiroshima
immoral?
What was amoral about using the atomic bomb on Hiroshima?
Could it be any simpler? Just tell us.
tankfixer
Still making threats I see.
> >
> >
> >
> >>> Or are you reduced to making threats on USENET ?
> >>
> >> Your delusion is showing again.
> >
> > Showing you for what you are.
>
> So where's the "threat", eh coward?
click
click
boom
_ Prof. Jonez _
Awww, the wittle soldier boy is scared ....
_ Prof. Jonez _
>> grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost) wrote in
>> news:Xns9AF9AB0C8FE51We...@216.196.97.142:
>
>> Jonez won't explain what he thinks is obvious, so let me help. If
>> 500 B- 29s had been used to kill the same number of civilians at
>> Hiroshima
>
> Rat - are you aware that BOTH Hiroshima AND Nagasaki were primary
> MILITARY installations?
You're lying again, asswipe. Both were primarily CIVILIAN CITIES,
and the proof being that 100,000+ INNOCENT CIVILIANS died
when the amoral Amerikunts dropped NUCLEAR WEAPONS of
MASS DESTRUCTION upon them, you worthless piece of
shit.
_ Prof. Jonez _
> In article <6gf1h7F...@mid.individual.net>, Reality_CheckŠ says...
>>
>>
>> "Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9AF8E345559E5We...@216.196.97.142...
>>> "Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote in news:6gep8uFfk6bvU1
>>> @mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>>> You have claimed that the atomic bombing of Hiroshima was ammoral.
>>>>
>>>> All moral people do so.
>>>
>>> But why?
>>
>> If you have to ask why, then you're devoid of any morality. But we
>> already knew that.
>
> If you claim that, but can't say WHY, then you're a simpleton and a
> coward.
If you don't know why, then you're a worthless amoral piece of shit.
Gray Ghost
@mid.individual.net:
No, no, you don't understand, I'm willling to change my opinion. Just spell
out your position honestly and without profanity.
Gray Ghost
@mid.individual.net:
It's those pesky facts that keep tripping you up.
The Second Army and Chugoku Regional Army were headquartered in Hiroshima,
and the Army Marine Headquarters was located at Ujina port. The city also had
large depots of military supplies, and was a key center for shipping.
Reality_CheckŠ
> "_ Prof. Jonez _" <the...@jonez.net> wrote in news:6gjrg1Ffq70vU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> krp wrote:
>>> "Deadrat" <a...@b.com> wrote in message
>>> news:00Mok.17760$cW3....@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>>> grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost) wrote in
>>>> news:Xns9AF9AB0C8FE51We...@216.196.97.142:
>>>
>>>> Jonez won't explain what he thinks is obvious, so let me help. If
>>>> 500 B- 29s had been used to kill the same number of civilians at
>>>> Hiroshima
>>>
>>> Rat - are you aware that BOTH Hiroshima AND Nagasaki were primary
>>> MILITARY installations?
>>
>> You're lying again, asswipe. Both were primarily CIVILIAN CITIES,
>> and the proof being that 100,000+ INNOCENT CIVILIANS died
>> when the amoral Amerikunts dropped NUCLEAR WEAPONS of
>> MASS DESTRUCTION upon them, you worthless piece of
>> shit.
>>
>>
>>
>
> It's those pesky facts that keep tripping you up.
The fact that the U$A dropped NUCLEAR BOMBS upon CIVILIAN population
centers, killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the process?
tankfixer
Not of you.
If you attempted to build an IED we'd all get to watch the aftermath on
the 6Pm news as the fire department puts out the fire in the remains of
the hovel you live in
Gray Ghost
@mid.individual.net:
No, that under the circumstances, by the standards of the time it was clearly
a legitimate target.
Reality_CheckŠ
The 100,000+ Innocent Civilians were NEVER a "legitimate target" you
repugnant amoral
lowlife piece of shit.
Chris Morton
>You're lying again, asswipe. Both were primarily CIVILIAN CITIES,
You mean like Nanjing and Manila?
If you're going to be a cheerleader for Japanese genocide, slavery, mass rape
and human vivisection, you should at least work a little harder at it.
Chris Morton
>The fact that the U$A dropped NUCLEAR BOMBS upon CIVILIAN population
...and soldiers, ended the war. What REALLY bothers you is that you don't think
the right side won.
Chris Morton
>The 100,000+ Innocent Civilians were NEVER a "legitimate target" you
Unlike the innocent civilians of Nanjing and Manila?
Keep being a chearleader for Japanese genocide. It really puts you into the
proper perspective.
Chris Morton
>>> If you have to ask why, then you're devoid of any morality. But we
>>> already knew that.
>>
>> If you claim that, but can't say WHY, then you're a simpleton and a
>> coward.
>
>If you don't know why, then you're a worthless amoral piece of shit.
You just either can't, or a too big of a sniveling coward to say WHY.
Keep being a cheerleader for human vivisection.
Kerry Ladd
Then why didn't we drop them on the largest cities, you retard?
Hiroshima is the tenth largest city, Nagasaki is 28th.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagasaki,_Nagasaki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroshima
I know you can read(somewhat) but I doubt you will ever be able to
comprehend or understand the words that are assembled in the correct order.
Please stay in Canaduh, where you faggots belong.
Reality_CheckŠ
> In article <6gkhb6F...@mid.individual.net>, Reality_CheckŠ says...
>
>> The fact that the U$A dropped NUCLEAR BOMBS upon CIVILIAN population
>
> ...and soldiers, ended the war. What REALLY bothers you is that you
> don't think the right side won.
Only a sick twisted amoral sociopath would think it's right to drop NUCLEAR
WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION upon CIVLIAN Population Centers,
killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the process.
Reality_CheckŠ
> In article <6gkr3hF...@mid.individual.net>, Reality_CheckŠ says...
>
>> The 100,000+ Innocent Civilians were NEVER a "legitimate target" you
>
> Unlike the innocent civilians of Nanjing and Manila?
Did the U$A drop NUCLEAR BOMBS upon those CIVILIAN population
centers too ?
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Gray Ghost
@news.teranews.com:
> Chris Morton wrote:
>> In article <6gkr3hF...@mid.individual.net>, Reality_CheckŠ says...
>>
>>> The 100,000+ Innocent Civilians were NEVER a "legitimate target" you
>>
>> Unlike the innocent civilians of Nanjing and Manila?
>
> Did the U$A drop NUCLEAR BOMBS upon those CIVILIAN population
> centers too ?
>
Just how ignorant of history are you?
Gray Ghost
@mid.individual.net:
When are you going to explain why it immoral to use nukes on those cities as
opposed to 600 B-29s dropping incendiaries, creating a firestorm and killing
even more people?
Can you? Or is it that your hatred of America is all that you need?
_ Prof. Jonez _
> "Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote in
>>> Reality_CheckŠ says...
>>>
>>>> The 100,000+ Innocent Civilians were NEVER a "legitimate target"
>>>> you
>>>
>>> Unlike the innocent civilians of Nanjing and Manila?
>>
>> Did the U$A drop NUCLEAR BOMBS upon those CIVILIAN population
>> centers too ?
>>
>
> Just how ignorant of history are you?
The history that the amoral U$A is the ONLY nation to have used NUCLEAR
WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION upon CIVILIAN Population centers ...
TWICE ... killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the process.
Gray Ghost
@mid.individual.net:
When are you going to explain why it immoral to use nukes on those cities as
opposed to 600 B-29s dropping incendiaries, creating a firestorm and killing
even more people?
Can you? Or is it that your hatred of America is all that you need?
Frankly if you can't clearly explain your viewpoint than it becaomes nothing
more than an insane political rant.
_ Prof. Jonez _
>>> "Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote in
>>>> Chris Morton wrote:
>>>>> Reality_CheckŠ says...
>>>>>
>>>>>> The 100,000+ Innocent Civilians were NEVER a "legitimate target"
>>>>>> you
>>>>>
>>>>> Unlike the innocent civilians of Nanjing and Manila?
>>>>
>>>> Did the U$A drop NUCLEAR BOMBS upon those CIVILIAN population
>>>> centers too ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just how ignorant of history are you?
>>
>> The history that the amoral U$A is the ONLY nation to have used
>> NUCLEAR WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION upon CIVILIAN Population centers
>> ...
>> TWICE ... killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the
>> process.
>>
> When are you going to explain why it immoral to use nukes on those
> cities
If you don't know why it's immoral to drop NUCLEAR BOMBS upon
CIVILIAN Population centers, killing 100,000+ innocent men, women
and children then you're forever doomed to be the lowlife amoral
repugnant piece of shit that you are.
Chris Morton
Not AT ALL "moral" like the Rapes of Nanjing and Manila...
Chris Morton
>Only a sick twisted amoral sociopath would think it's right to
...end a genocidal war of aggression by the Japanese characterized by mass
murder, mass sexual slavery, artificial starvation, and human vivisection?
Oh well, if the jackboot fits...
Felix D.
"Chris Morton" <cmo...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:g84sc...@drn.newsguy.com...
> In article <6gltguF...@mid.individual.net>, Reality_CheckŠ says...
>
>>Only a sick twisted amoral sociopath would think it's right to
>
> ...end a genocidal war of aggression by the Japanese characterized by mass
> murder, mass sexual slavery, artificial starvation, and human vivisection?
>
> Oh well, if the jackboot fits...
You just know it does. It's that Tolerance and Diversity thing they're going
to lay right up against your head.
r_c_...@hushmail.com
> In article <6gm4apFg76t...@mid.individual.net>, _ Prof. Jonez _ says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >Gray Ghost wrote:
> >> "Reality_Check©" <Real...@Check.it> wrote in
> >>> Chris Morton wrote:
> >>>> Reality_Check© says...
>
> >>>>> The 100,000+ Innocent Civilians were NEVER a "legitimate target"
> >>>>> you
>
> >>>> Unlike the innocent civilians of Nanjing and Manila?
>
> >>> Did the U$A drop NUCLEAR BOMBS upon those CIVILIAN population
> >>> centers too ?
>
> >> Just how ignorant of history are you?
>
> >The history that the amoral U$A is the ONLY nation to have used NUCLEAR
> >WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION upon CIVILIAN Population centers ...
> >TWICE ... killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the process.
>
> Not AT ALL "moral" like the Rapes of Nanjing and Manila...
Mr. Morton, I know that you are familiar with the concept of total war
("Total war is a conflict of unlimited scope in which a belligerent
engages in a total mobilization of all available resources at his
disposal, whether human, industrial, agricultural, military, natural,
technological, or otherwise, in order to entirely destroy or render
beyond use his rival's capacity to continue resistance"), as is Mr.
Ghost. I expect that Mr. Jonez and Mr. Check are also.
The fact is that "The Second World War is considered the
quintessential total war of modernity. The sheer - indeed, total -
level of national mobilization of resources on all sides of the
conflict, the immense battlespace being contested, the massive scale
of the armies, navies, and air forces raised through conscription, the
active targeting of civilians (and civilian property), the general
disregard for collateral damage, and the unrestricted aims of the
belligerents marked the full and, to the present, final realization of
the concept of total war."
"Everybody did it" (referring to total war) is not a particularly
"moral" argument, but it does reflect the reality of the times.
Saying "those guys used bigger weapons" (in total war) is not a
"moral" argument either.
One result of the War is that countries have not used nuclear bombs on
other countries since. Is this a "moral" position? Possibly.
Another fact: the use of nuclear bombs in the War ended it. Was that
"moral"?
From a total war viewpoint, definitely.
From a post total war viewpoint, possibly not.
>
> --
> Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with
> 210lb. rapists.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
tankfixer
grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com says...
> "Reality_Check©" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote in news:d5fed$48a5c054$30194
> @news.teranews.com:
>
> > Chris Morton wrote:
> >> In article <6gkr3hF...@mid.individual.net>, Reality_Check© says...
> >>
> >>> The 100,000+ Innocent Civilians were NEVER a "legitimate target" you
> >>
> >> Unlike the innocent civilians of Nanjing and Manila?
> >
> > Did the U$A drop NUCLEAR BOMBS upon those CIVILIAN population
> > centers too ?
> >
>
> Just how ignorant of history are you?
I think his ignorance extends well beyond history...
Gray Ghost
@mid.individual.net:
So basically you are an inarticulate baboon screeching profanities from the
treetops.
If you cannot articulate your reasons, you don't count.
I explained why I beleive it was acceptable. You have contributed profanity.
_ Prof. Jonez _
> <th...@anhywhere.usa> wrote in message
> news:t1k0a4p36ebsuieof...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:19:34 -0700, tankfixer
>> <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <48mdnbfot6VbVgLV...@comcast.com>, "Al. E.
>>> Gator Esq." <ObamaCroc08.net> says...
>>>
>>>> yellow cocksucking coward
>> You're wasting your time on Alzhemier E.
>> Gator,Tank.He doesn't have the mental capacity to absorb anything
>> above the 6th Grade level.
>> Too much aluminum-producing toxins in his system is now curdling his
>> brain. His posts show the classic mental deterioration of Alzheimer's
>> patients: dementia, loss of capaicty for lineal thought, resort to
>> scatalogical terms to express his feelings, pathological hatred of
>> certain ethnic groups. The Alzheimer's Ward of an Assisted Living
>> Facility is in his near futrue, if he is not already so situated.
>
> you guys living together or what ?
>
> and,
>
> is this the best the two of you can come up with ?
>
> surrender now
Maybe they'll frag each other in a final act of panicked cowardice ...
... like Pat Tillman ... yeeeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaaa! Stay the Course!
Bama Brian
That's because the US was the only country at the time that had nukes.
If any of the Axis Powers had had nukes, they would have used them.
Those two nukes brought Japan's surrender to us; otherwise the death
tolls would have been MUCH higher in terms of American and Japanese
casualties.
--
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana, 1863 - 1952
Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
Bama Brian
Dead is dead. Wounded is wounded. Crippled is crippled.
And it doesn't matter if the US used rocks, sticks, knives, guns, bombs,
or nukes.
There is NO morality in war. That you can sit in the comfort of your
home, sixty-three years later and critique what happened shows only that
you want to lord it over everyone else with a self-adjudged moral
superiority. Too bad for you that giving yourself such a laurel wreath
only counts in the confines of your skull.
Gray Ghost
qdnUHCPOsdnjrVn...@earthlink.com:
> _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
>> Gray Ghost wrote:
>>> "_ Prof. Jonez _" <the...@jonez.net> wrote
>>>> Gray Ghost wrote:
>>>>> "Reality_Check©" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote in
>>>>>> Chris Morton wrote:
>>>>>>> Reality_Check© says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The 100,000+ Innocent Civilians were NEVER a "legitimate target"
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> Unlike the innocent civilians of Nanjing and Manila?
>>>>>> Did the U$A drop NUCLEAR BOMBS upon those CIVILIAN population
>>>>>> centers too ?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just how ignorant of history are you?
>>>> The history that the amoral U$A is the ONLY nation to have used
>>>> NUCLEAR WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION upon CIVILIAN Population centers
>>>> ... TWICE ... killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in
>>>> the process.
>>>>
>>> When are you going to explain why it immoral to use nukes on those
>>> cities
>>
>> If you don't know why it's immoral to drop NUCLEAR BOMBS upon
>> CIVILIAN Population centers, killing 100,000+ innocent men, women
>> and children then you're forever doomed to be the lowlife amoral
>> repugnant piece of shit that you are.
>
> Dead is dead. Wounded is wounded. Crippled is crippled.
>
> And it doesn't matter if the US used rocks, sticks, knives, guns, bombs,
> or nukes.
>
> There is NO morality in war. That you can sit in the comfort of your
> home, sixty-three years later and critique what happened shows only that
> you want to lord it over everyone else with a self-adjudged moral
> superiority. Too bad for you that giving yourself such a laurel wreath
> only counts in the confines of your skull.
>
Actually this is really only about his obssession with his hatred for
America.
The .it in his email addy suggest Italy and he writes as if he were an
outsider. He is an insignificant anonymous coward who simply hates America,
not for any rational reason but I suspect becuase we are successful, not the
use of $ in U$A.
Having no rational basis on which to base his claim of immorality, or at
least his inability to articulate it or to facutally contradict any of the
information presented here, one can safely dismiss RC as a impotent terroist.
He hates the US to the very core of his soul, but lacks the courage and
commitment of his Islamist brethern to do anything more than anonymously
spout profanity at us.
Miguel A. González
<Rea...@Check.it> wrote:
>
>"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:Ka6dnXoT1tzfPQLV...@comcast.com...
>> "Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote ...
>>> "Kayid Al-Kuffar" <Kaye...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>> War Crimes at Hiroshima and Nagasaki
>>> by Jacob G. Hornberger, ------
>>> The central idea behind the concept of war crimes is that even with
>>> the brutality of war, there should be limits on the behavior of
>>> combatants. Thus, over the centuries, warring nations have developed
>>> the notion of what might be called "civilized rules of warfare."
>>
>> Yes, so the first thing I'd suggest to you, Al-Kuffar, and Hornberger,
>> is to look at the laws that existed at that time.
>>
>> Those bombings were legal and allowed.
>
>Doesn't make them moral or ethical, scumbag.
>
>> Both cities had major military targets.
>> Japan had not even tried to call them "Open Cities."
>
>So it's ok to drop NUCLEAR BOMBS on CIVILIAN population centers
>killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in the process?
No worse than the firebombings of other Axis cities. Under the Geneva
conventions, Japan and Germany left themselves open to attacks on
their civilian populations by:
a) distributing the war industry in civilian population centers, in
the case of Japan, by relying on cotttage industry.
b) intentionally targeting civilian population centers in the case of
Germany.
c) commiting crimes against civilians
>
>The enemies of the U$$A will be glad to hear that when they plan their
>next 9.11 style "pre-emptive" strike against YOU city, scumbag.
The only scumbag here is the one rooting for the terrorists.
>
>
Miguel A. González
<ObamaCroc08.net> wrote:
>
>"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.comm> wrote in message
>news:MPG.230964c93...@nntp.earthlink.net...
>> In article <FaCdnRX_YKgaIgLV...@comcast.com>, "Al. E.
>> Gator Esq." <ObamaCroc08.net> says...
>>>
>>> so when is your fat,gutless, overfed,unemployed, miserable creature ass
>>> going to
>>> fight for your freedom there goober, and all the rest of the gutless
>>> hillbillies here
>>> waiting around with their thumbs up their asses for some "GIRL", poor
>>> kid,
>>> or minority
>>> to do the fighting for you ?
>>
>> It must piss you off that all those folks you describe are better
>> qualified to serve than you ever will be.
>
>
>nice evasion there el coward hillbilly, typical of you gutless, dick sucking
>bitches,
>
>it must be terrible to be a yellow coward eh goober ?
>that why yall be a clingin to them thar useless
>shootin irons, yall ain't a got the balls to use ?
>
>does it make you BITTER ?
>
>
>BBBBBBWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhh
>
>yall must feel like those two yellow cocksucking cowards in that ther white
>house
>with the cement pond
Don't you have anything intelligent, or relevant to this thread, to
say, other than the same old tired cliches and stereotypes.
What a maroon? You'r nothing but a troll, and not a very good one at
that.
>
Chris Morton
r_c_...@hushmail.com says...
>Another fact: the use of nuclear bombs in the War ended it. Was that
>"moral"?
I suppose it depends.
If you were in a Japanese POW or internment camp, starving to death and facing
the certainty of execution when Allied troops approached to liberate you, or if
you were in occupied China, facing death by starvation or at the merest whim of
any Japanese soldier, or if you were strapped to a table in Manchuria awaiting
human vivisection, I suppose your perspective would be somewhat different than
if you're a drug addled leftist bereft of the capacity for rational thought, and
for whom hating the United States and indeed liberal democracy in general is a
pseudo-religion.