Tea Party Flourishes
Cliff
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_b_413876.html
"The Tea Party Flourishes, Progressives Flounder, Wall Street Wins"
Well worth the read.
--
Cliff
edi...@netpath.net
class Americans lost ground under both the Democrat liberal Klintons
regime and the Republican pseudoconservative Bush regime - and now
again are losing ground under the Democrat commie Obama regime.
http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
Psychic Democrat
"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
news:0q1ck5900dftc5c46...@4ax.com...
The stupid and ignorant in this country will likely be our down fall , they
are politically active but too damned stupid to have a clue , supporting
those who are against the country's best interest as well as their own . I
swear there are no dumber people on this entire planet than the republicans
right here in the good old USA .
And they run on the same goddamn platform that destroyed the country under
Bush!
Catfish Hunter
> "Cliff" <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>
> news:0q1ck5900dftc5c46...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_b_...
> > "The Tea Party Flourishes, Progressives Flounder, Wall Street Wins"
>
> > Well worth the read.
> > --
> > Cliff
>
> The stupid and ignorant in this country will likely be our down fall , they
> are politically active but too damned stupid to have a clue , supporting
> those who are against the country's best interest as well as their own .
That is a great description of the 2006 and 2008 elections. We have
allowed the idiots to elect liberals. What has it gotten us? Record
breaking deficits, high unemployment, ect.
In 2010, we should be able to rid our Democratic Party of these
liberal idiots. Goodbye Harry Reid, goodbye Chris Dodd....
Psychic Democrat
"Catfish Hunter" <workisafou...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
news:d15469b4-54ec-43a9...@22g2000yqr.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 7, 10:43 am, "Psychic Democrat" <a...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Cliff" <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>
> news:0q1ck5900dftc5c46...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_b_...
> > "The Tea Party Flourishes, Progressives Flounder, Wall Street Wins"
>
> > Well worth the read.
> > --
> > Cliff
>
> The stupid and ignorant in this country will likely be our down fall ,
> they
> are politically active but too damned stupid to have a clue , supporting
> those who are against the country's best interest as well as their own .
That is a great description of the 2006 and 2008 elections.
======
You are a loony imbecile with the common sense of a goony bird. Extinct.
The South rose again... to it's level of incompetence under Bush's
Christofascist nutters, flunked, drowned in it's own vomit and has been
cremated during a book burning at a Teabagger Wingding in Nutterville,
Flarduh.
Strabo
> "Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
> news:0q1ck5900dftc5c46...@4ax.com...
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_b_413876.html
>> "The Tea Party Flourishes, Progressives Flounder, Wall Street Wins"
>>
>> Well worth the read.
>> --
>> Cliff
>
> The stupid and ignorant in this country will likely be our down fall , they
> are politically active but too damned stupid to have a clue , supporting
> those who are against the country's best interest as well as their own . I
> swear there are no dumber people on this entire planet than the republicans
> right here in the good old USA .
>
Hmmm, well, supporters of the the Democratic Party at least run a close
second. But the Tea Party people do not identify with either and they
are not your downfall.
>
> And they run on the same goddamn platform that destroyed the country under
> Bush!
>
Oh, "the country" was destroyed long before Bush I or Bush II.
But we'll put it back together for you, without the 14th, 16th or 17th
amendments; without the Federal Reserve and Income Tax Act; without
90% of the welfare state to which you've become accustomed.
John Q Public
Bravo!
These asslicks don't want responsibility, they are little children
wantin big mommie govt.
to give them a handout so long as its the other guy gets screwed.
Thats why socialism fails, it rewards the worst among us!
HH&C
> The Tea Party gets the allegiance of the masses because MOST middle-
> class Americans lost ground under both the Democrat liberal Klintons
> regime and the Republican pseudoconservative Bush regime - and now
> again are losing ground under the Democrat commie Obama regime.
>
Coincided with NAFTA and most favored nation trading status with China.
Lookout
The term "progressives" was coined by conservatives to try and split
the democrats.
The teabaggers named themselves and are succeeding in splitting the
republican vote as proved by the loss of a republican seat in New
York. I LOVE the teabaggers!
Lookout
<workisafou...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>On Jan 7, 10:43�am, "Psychic Democrat" <a...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> "Cliff" <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>>
>> news:0q1ck5900dftc5c46...@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_b_...
>> > �"The Tea Party Flourishes, Progressives Flounder, Wall Street Wins"
>>
>> > �Well worth the read.
>> > --
>> > Cliff
>>
>> The stupid and ignorant in this country will likely be our down fall , they
>> are politically active but too damned stupid to have a clue , supporting
>> those who are against the country's best interest as well as their own .
>
>That is a great description of the 2006 and 2008 elections. We have
>allowed the idiots to elect liberals. What has it gotten us? Record
>breaking deficits, high unemployment, ect.
Nah...YOU had 8 years of control. Give the dems the same amount of
time and then reach a conclusion based on facts for a change.
>In 2010, we should be able to rid our Democratic Party of these
>liberal idiots. Goodbye Harry Reid, goodbye Chris Dodd....
Yup and the party will be better for it.
Lookout
Actually it was dying gasp of the moral majority.
Lookout
wrote:
YOU have cost the republicans several elections already.
Thanks for your support.
HH&C
> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:11:21 -0500, Cliff
>
>
> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_b_...
> > "The Tea Party Flourishes, Progressives Flounder, Wall Street Wins"
>
> > Well worth the read.
>
> The term "progressives" was coined by conservatives to try and split
> the democrats.
Ah, no! There are books written about the "progressive era." Try
reading one.
Gray Ghost
news:dsfdk55ro9kv5g3pt...@4ax.com:
No you pathetic dullard.
"To destroy this invisible Government, to dissolve the unholy alliance
between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the
statesmanship of the day." - 1912 Progressive Party Platform, attributed to
Theodore Roosevelt[1] and quoted again in his autobiography[2] where he
connects Trusts and monopolies (sugar interests, Standard Oil, etc.) to
Woodrow Wilson and William Howard Taft, and consequently both major political
parties.
--
Al Gore didn't invent the internet, but he did invent Global Warming.
"Hide the Decline"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk
31,486 American scientists, including 9,029 with PhDs, don't agree the
science is settled.
http://www.petitionproject.org/
What it appears to be all about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEZszGJHbK4&feature=video_response
Siobhan Medeiros
wrote:
> On Jan 7, 10:43 am, "Psychic Democrat" <a...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Cliff" <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>
> >news:0q1ck5900dftc5c46...@4ax.com...
>
> > >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_b_...
> > > "The Tea Party Flourishes, Progressives Flounder, Wall Street Wins"
>
> > > Well worth the read.
> > > --
> > > Cliff
>
> > The stupid and ignorant in this country will likely be our down fall , they
> > are politically active but too damned stupid to have a clue , supporting
> > those who are against the country's best interest as well as their own .
>
> That is a great description of the 2006 and 2008 elections. We have
> allowed the idiots to elect liberals. What has it gotten us? Record
> breaking deficits, high unemployment, ect.
>
Excuse me, moron, but the high unemployment is because of Dubya's
financial crisis, remember? And it was Dubya that started spending
like a drunken sailor after Clinton had balanced the budget, remember.
The #1 rightard complaint - Obama isn't cleaning up their mess fast
enough.
Siobhan Medeiros
> >news:0q1ck5900dftc5c46...@4ax.com...
> >>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_b_...
> >> "The Tea Party Flourishes, Progressives Flounder, Wall Street Wins"
>
> >> Well worth the read.
> >> --
> >> Cliff
>
> > The stupid and ignorant in this country will likely be our down fall , they
> > are politically active but too damned stupid to have a clue , supporting
> > those who are against the country's best interest as well as their own . I
> > swear there are no dumber people on this entire planet than the republicans
> > right here in the good old USA .
>
> Hmmm, well, supporters of the the Democratic Party at least run a close
> second. But the Tea Party people do not identify with either and they
> are not your downfall.
>
> >
>
> > And they run on the same goddamn platform that destroyed the country under
> > Bush!
>
> Oh, "the country" was destroyed long before Bush I or Bush II.
>
> But we'll put it back together for you, without the 14th, 16th or 17th
> amendments; without the Federal Reserve and Income Tax Act; without
> 90% of the welfare state to which you've become accustomed.
So in other words, you're in favor of slavery, and taking away the
people's right to democratically elect their senators. I see, a
racist and a fascist to boot.
You'll take those amendments away over YOUR dead body.
Siobhan Medeiros
> On 2010-01-07 21:17:30 -0500, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net> said:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Psychic Democrat wrote:
> >>news:0q1ck5900dftc5c46...@4ax.com...
> >>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_b_...
>
> >>> "The Tea Party Flourishes, Progressives Flounder, Wall Street Wins"
>
> >>> Well worth the read.
> >>> --
> >>> Cliff
>
> >> The stupid and ignorant in this country will likely be our down fall , they
> >> are politically active but too damned stupid to have a clue , supporting
> >> those who are against the country's best interest as well as their own . I
> >> swear there are no dumber people on this entire planet than the republicans
> >> right here in the good old USA .
>
> > Hmmm, well, supporters of the the Democratic Party at least run a close
> > second. But the Tea Party people do not identify with either and they
> > are not your downfall.
>
> >> And they run on the same goddamn platform that destroyed the country under
> >> Bush!
>
> > Oh, "the country" was destroyed long before Bush I or Bush II.
>
> > But we'll put it back together for you, without the 14th, 16th or 17th
> > amendments; without the Federal Reserve and Income Tax Act; without
> > 90% of the welfare state to which you've become accustomed.
>
> Bravo!
> These asslicks don't want responsibility, they are little children
> wantin big mommie govt.
> to give them a handout so long as its the other guy gets screwed.
> Thats why socialism fails, it rewards the worst among us!
So, you like slavery too? Figures.
Siobhan Medeiros
wrote:
> Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:dsfdk55ro9kv5g3pt...@4ax.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:11:21 -0500, Cliff
>
> >>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_b_...
> >>6.html
> >> "The Tea Party Flourishes, Progressives Flounder, Wall Street Wins"
>
> >> Well worth the read.
>
> > The term "progressives" was coined by conservatives to try and split
> > the democrats.
> > The teabaggers named themselves and are succeeding in splitting the
> > republican vote as proved by the loss of a republican seat in New
> > York. I LOVE the teabaggers!
>
> No you pathetic dullard.
>
> "To destroy this invisible Government, to dissolve the unholy alliance
> between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the
> statesmanship of the day." - 1912 Progressive Party Platform, attributed to
> Theodore Roosevelt[1] and quoted again in his autobiography[2] where he
> connects Trusts and monopolies (sugar interests, Standard Oil, etc.) to
> Woodrow Wilson and William Howard Taft, and consequently both major political
> parties.
>
So Woodrow Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt were both progressives? Pretty
good endorsement in my book!
> --
> Al Gore didn't invent the internet, but he did invent Global Warming.
>
> "Hide the Decline"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk
>
Which means absolutely nothing when taken in context.
> 31,486 American scientists, including 9,029 with PhDs, don't agree the
> science is settled.http://www.petitionproject.org/
Oh, please. The OISM project is a farce. Pure fraud.
>
> What it appears to be all abouthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEZszGJHbK4&feature=video_response
A broken link?
Cliff
Ghost) wrote:
>Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:dsfdk55ro9kv5g3pt...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:11:21 -0500, Cliff
>><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_b_41387
>>>6.html
>>> "The Tea Party Flourishes, Progressives Flounder, Wall Street Wins"
>>>
>>> Well worth the read.
>>
>> The term "progressives" was coined by conservatives to try and split
>> the democrats.
>> The teabaggers named themselves and are succeeding in splitting the
>> republican vote as proved by the loss of a republican seat in New
>> York. I LOVE the teabaggers!
>>
>
>No you pathetic dullard.
>
>"To destroy this invisible Government, to dissolve the unholy alliance
>between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the
>statesmanship of the day." - 1912 Progressive Party Platform, attributed to
>Theodore Roosevelt[1] and quoted again in his autobiography[2] where he
>connects Trusts and monopolies (sugar interests, Standard Oil, etc.) to
>Woodrow Wilson and William Howard Taft, and consequently both major political
>parties.
So they were opposed to fascism.
Why are you for it?
Explain in detail.
--
Cliff
f. barnes
<workisafourletterw...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 7, 10:43 am, "Psychic Democrat" <a...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Cliff" <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>
> >news:0q1ck5900dftc5c46...@4ax.com...
>
> > >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_b_...
> > > "The Tea Party Flourishes, Progressives Flounder, Wall Street Wins"
>
> > > Well worth the read.
> > > --
> > > Cliff
>
> > The stupid and ignorant in this country will likely be our down fall , they
> > are politically active but too damned stupid to have a clue , supporting
> > those who are against the country's best interest as well as their own .
>
> That is a great description of the 2006 and 2008 elections. We have
> allowed the idiots to elect liberals. What has it gotten us? Record
> breaking deficits, high unemployment, ect.
>
> In 2010, we should be able to rid our Democratic Party of these
> liberal idiots. Goodbye Harry Reid, goodbye Chris Dodd....
>
The liberals put a druggy and street agitator in the white house just
because he was a good-looking, well spoken, black man. They had no
interest in his total lack qualifications. And all he offered was
some vague, undefined, "change". But it felt good to elect a black
man, so they threw all caution to the wind and went for it. Now we
are all stuck with the idiot for three more years. They are so damn
stupid!
>
>
> > I swear there are no dumber people on this entire planet than the republicans
> > right here in the good old USA .
>
> > And they run on the same goddamn platform that destroyed the country under
> > Bush!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
RD (The Sandman)
news:d21bd175-6379-4c4a...@35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
> On Jan 7, 9:39�am, Catfish Hunter <workisafourletterw...@hushmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On Jan 7, 10:43�am, "Psychic Democrat" <a...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Cliff" <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:0q1ck5900dftc5c46...@4ax.com...
>>
>> > >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_
>> > >b_.
> ..
>> > > �"The Tea Party Flourishes, Progressives Flounder, Wall Street
>> > > Wins
> "
>>
>> > > �Well worth the read.
>> > > --
>> > > Cliff
>>
>> > The stupid and ignorant in this country will likely be our down
>> > fall ,
> they
>> > are politically active but too damned stupid to have a clue ,
>> > supportin
> g
>> > those who are against the country's best interest as well as their
>> > own
> .
>>
>> That is a great description of the 2006 and 2008 elections. We have
>> allowed the idiots to elect liberals. What has it gotten us? Record
>> breaking deficits, high unemployment, ect.
>>
>
> Excuse me, moron, but the high unemployment is because of Dubya's
> financial crisis, remember? And it was Dubya that started spending
> like a drunken sailor after Clinton had balanced the budget, remember.
Clinton balanced the on-budget items. He still added a few billion
dollars to the national debt.
> The #1 rightard complaint - Obama isn't cleaning up their mess fast
> enough.
My complaint is that he keeps blaming everything on Bush. When does he
assume ownership?
--
Sleep well tonight,
RD (The Sandman)
Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass
a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand
it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who
hasn't read it, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn't
pay his taxes because he didn't understand TurboTax, overseen by an obese
Surgeon General and financed by a country that's nearly broke.
What could possibly go wrong?
RD (The Sandman)
> On Jan 7, 6:17�pm, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net> wrote:
>> Psychic Democrat wrote:
>> > "Cliff" <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>> >news:0q1ck5900dftc5c46...@4ax.com...
>> >>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_b
>> >>_..
> .
>> >> �"The Tea Party Flourishes, Progressives Flounder, Wall Street
Slavery was the THIRTEENTH amendment. The Fourteenth was to apply the
Bill of Rights to the states, the Sixteenth was clearing up powers of
taxation and the Seventeenth was the change to how senators are elected
to the Senate.
Now, I know you know this. ;)
and taking away the
> people's right to democratically elect their senators. I see, a
> racist and a fascist to boot.
>
> You'll take those amendments away over YOUR dead body.
--
Harry Callahan
> On Jan 7, 6:17�pm, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net> wrote:
>> Psychic Democrat wrote:
>> > "Cliff" <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>> >news:0q1ck5900dftc5c46...@4ax.com...
>> >>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_b_..
>> >>.
>> >> �"The Tea Party Flourishes, Progressives Flounder, Wall Street Wins"
>>
>> >> �Well worth the read.
>> >> --
>> >> Cliff
>>
>> > The stupid and ignorant in this country will likely be our down fall ,
>> > they are politically active but too damned stupid to have a clue ,
>> > supporting those who are against the country's best interest as well
>> > as their own . I swear there are no dumber people on this entire
>> > planet than the republicans right here in the good old USA .
>>
>> Hmmm, well, supporters of the the Democratic Party at least run a close
>> second. But the Tea Party people do not identify with either and they
>> are not your downfall.
>>
>> �>
>>
>> > And they run on the same goddamn platform that destroyed the country
>> > under Bush!
>>
>> Oh, "the country" was destroyed long before Bush I or Bush II.
>>
>> But we'll put it back together for you, without the 14th, 16th or 17th
>> amendments; without the Federal Reserve and Income Tax Act; without
>> 90% of the welfare state to which you've become accustomed.
>
> So in other words, you're in favor of slavery, and taking away the
> people's right to democratically elect their senators. I see, a
> racist and a fascist to boot.
>
> You'll take those amendments away over my dead body.
>
Well, if that's what it's gonna take, I'm game.
--
"I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Well, to
tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself. But
being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and
would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I
feel lucky? Well, do ya punk?"
SaPeIsMa
"Harry Callahan" <4...@mag.num> wrote in message
news:Xns9CFB874591C12We...@216.196.97.142...
Yes.
Scum like you are always "game" to enslave others, and kill them otherwise
Harry Callahan
news:h8adne_rLYpVnNfW...@posted.cpinternet:
>
> "Harry Callahan" <4...@mag.num> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CFB874591C12We...@216.196.97.142...
>> Siobhan Medeiros <sbm...@shaw.ca> wrote in
>> news:69188ca9-2ab4-4ec6...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> On Jan 7, 6:17 pm, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net> wrote:
>>>> Psychic Democrat wrote:
>>>> > "Cliff" <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>>>> >news:0q1ck5900dftc5c46...@4ax.com...
>>>> >>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_b_
>>>> >>.. .
Dude, you should read the thread more carefully. Remember me, I am not the
enslaving type? Siobhan Medeiros is the one who says we want to reestablich
the Constitution with the slave parts intact. Strabo only said he wanted to
remove the 14th, 16th and 17th Amendments. And get rid of the Federal Reserve
and Income Tax Act; and90% of the welfare state to which SM had become
accustomed.
I was simply assuring SM that if it required his dead body to do so, I was
game.
I've got no interest in enslaving anyone and probably wouldn't want to see
the 14th tossed aside. But seeing SM dead, well that's OK by me.
Lookout
(Gray Ghost) wrote:
>Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:dsfdk55ro9kv5g3pt...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:11:21 -0500, Cliff
>><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_b_41387
>>>6.html
>>> "The Tea Party Flourishes, Progressives Flounder, Wall Street Wins"
>>>
>>> Well worth the read.
>>
>> The term "progressives" was coined by conservatives to try and split
>> the democrats.
>> The teabaggers named themselves and are succeeding in splitting the
>> republican vote as proved by the loss of a republican seat in New
>> York. I LOVE the teabaggers!
>>
>
>No you pathetic dullard.
>
>"To destroy this invisible Government, to dissolve the unholy alliance
>between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the
>statesmanship of the day." - 1912 Progressive Party Platform, attributed to
>Theodore Roosevelt[1] and quoted again in his autobiography[2] where he
>connects Trusts and monopolies (sugar interests, Standard Oil, etc.) to
>Woodrow Wilson and William Howard Taft, and consequently both major political
>parties.
TODAY you dumbass. TODAY
Fuck you're an idiot
Lookout
As most experts have opined it will take at least a decade to get out
of this mess.
Beam Me Up Scotty
Expert Obama and expert Democrats said it would all be over by 2010.
It was those "nasty America Hating Republicans" that wanted the economy
to go bad.... that said Obama was plunging us into a 10 year DEPRESSION
with his Keynesian government style Borrow, print and spending of
$trillions of dollars.
Liberal-Socialists like Obama have been telling Republicans to sit down
and *SHUT UP* and now you say that, Democrats are saying what
Republicans had said one year ago.
--
RD (The Sandman)
news:8b4kk55sm7ngo9pgb...@4ax.com:
A mess that should be shared by both sides of the aisle, not just place
all the blame on Bush and his administration.
Lookout
Cite?
Nah..you won't respond because you're lying again.
>
>It was those "nasty America Hating Republicans" that wanted the economy
>to go bad.... that said Obama was plunging us into a 10 year DEPRESSION
>with his Keynesian government style Borrow, print and spending of
>$trillions of dollars.
And another lie
>Liberal-Socialists like Obama have been telling Republicans to sit down
>and *SHUT UP* and now you say that, Democrats are saying what
>Republicans had said one year ago.
Yes..republicans had their chance with 6 years of Congressional
control and 8 years in the White House and they fucked up the economy
almost beyond repair. They DO need to sit down and shut the fuck up.
Lookout
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
Wrong. The damage was done because of 6 years of republican control in
Congress and 8 years of bush when the democrats had no way what so
ever.
RD (The Sandman)
news:f6ikk5dvjruillqff...@4ax.com:
Excuse me? Who was the Chairmen of the House and Senate Finance
Committees with oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac since 2006? Who
gave those institutions a clean bill of health claiming that they were
healthy and solvent with no problems as recently as July of 2008? Bonus
points if you can name both of them.
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Sleep well tonight,
RD (The Sandman)
Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass
a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand
it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it or allowed bipartisan input,
signed by a president who hasn't read it or provided the public with the
C-Span overview of the plan or the process, with funding administered by
Lookout
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
The damage started with Reaganomics.
Lookout
>On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:38:18 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>The root cause was the underlying economic theories embraced by the
>reagan regime---that massively cutting taxes on the wealth class and
>corporations, deregulation of industries would (somehow) be beneficial
>in a stagnat economy. Didn't work because Oil was the problem--not
>the conditions that tax cuts would help
>
>Bush reinstituted those "theories", left the tax cuts in place---but
>with the GOP dominated congress (after blowing the surplus of 2000)
>not only started a war based on lies---but went on a spending spree
>that made the historical democrats look like misers.
I think that's pretty simple to figure out.
RD (The Sandman)
news:fidnk5h9fmcps890r...@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:25:30 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:f6ikk5dvjruillqff...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 12:44:16 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
>>> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>news:8b4kk55sm7ngo9pgb...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:44:43 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
>>>>> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Siobhan Medeiros <sbm...@shaw.ca> wrote in
>>>>>>news:d21bd175-6379-4c4a-ba13-05b00ee1a1bd@
Ahhh, you can't name either. ;)
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Sleep well tonight, RD (The Sandman)
Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass
a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand
it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it or allowed bipartisan input,
signed by a president who hasn't read it or provided the public with the
C-Span overview of the plan or the process, with funding administered by
a Treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes because he didn't understand
TurboTax, overseen by an obese Surgeon General and financed by a country
RD (The Sandman)
news:k61ok55jh1hp2mg04...@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:38:18 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> The root cause was the underlying economic theories embraced by the
> reagan regime---that massively cutting taxes on the wealth class and
> corporations, deregulation of industries would (somehow) be beneficial
> in a stagnat economy. Didn't work because Oil was the problem--not
> the conditions that tax cuts would help
>
> Bush reinstituted those "theories", left the tax cuts in place---but
> with the GOP dominated congress (after blowing the surplus of 2000)
You mean the paper surplus on only budgeted items? Clinton never showed
a real surplus as the national debt continued to rise ever year of his
presidency. He did manage to slow the rate of ascent.
> not only started a war based on lies---but went on a spending spree
> that made the historical democrats look like misers.
>
>
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Sleep well tonight, RD (The Sandman)
Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass
a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand
it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it or allowed bipartisan input,
signed by a president who hasn't read it or provided the public with the
C-Span overview of the plan or the process, with funding administered by
a Treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes because he didn't understand
TurboTax, overseen by an obese Surgeon General and financed by a country
RD (The Sandman)
4ax.com:
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:25:30 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Excuse me? Who was the Chairmen of the House and Senate Finance
>>Committees with oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac since 2006?
Who
>>gave those institutions a clean bill of health claiming that they were
>>healthy and solvent with no problems as recently as July of 2008?
Bonus
>>points if you can name both of them.
>
> The GOP was in power in 2006
Who won control of the house in 2006. Can you answer the questions above
or would you also prefer to ignore them?
> THe crisis came to a head during Bush's regime---the stimulus was his
> puppy
The stimulus was born of both Bush and Obama in joint discussions and was
not part of the question you chose not to answer.
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Sleep well tonight, RD (The Sandman)
Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass
a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand
it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it or allowed bipartisan input,
signed by a president who hasn't read it or provided the public with the
C-Span overview of the plan or the process, with funding administered by
a Treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes because he didn't understand
TurboTax, overseen by an obese Surgeon General and financed by a country
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:38:18 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> reagan regime---that massively cutting taxes on the wealth class and
> corporations, deregulation of industries would (somehow) be beneficial
> in a stagnat economy. Didn't work because Oil was the problem--not
> the conditions that tax cuts would help
Is that why the Democrats in congress *all in lock step* said there was
no problems with Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
> Bush reinstituted those "theories", left the tax cuts in place---but
> with the GOP dominated congress (after blowing the surplus of 2000)
> not only started a war based on lies---but went on a spending spree
> that made the historical democrats look like misers.
>
The Democrats were in denial because they didn't want their very own
back door welfare program to be shut down.
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V
wrote:
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_b_...
> � "TheTeaPartyFlourishes, Progressives Flounder, Wall Street Wins"
>
> � Well worth the read.
> --
> Cliff
Tea party threw me out...
I joined a Tea party online forum in Ohio Valley. After 3 or 4 posts
they banned me. Was run by a power hungry lady it seems. She only
liked to hear herself talk. Said I was a 'trouble maker' for having an
opinion.
Had to laugh...didn't the tea parties back in the day cause trouble?
Lets hope this lady never makes it into politics.
Anyway, tea baggers are all bark and no bite. Develop some self
sufficiency and organize a citizens union to strike the corrupt
political system...they you will be really making tea my friends.
As far as 3rd party? Could we do much worse than being fed our diet of
shit? Sure we could theoretically do worse, but we could always go
back to the old diet of scumbag reps and dems.
Let's say the dream of the tea party would come true and they would
get a tea bagger prez in office. The house and senate is run by the
good old boys (dems and reps) and would not work with the tea prez. It
would just be one big brawl day in day out.
Now, if you could change the house and senate to tea baggers, in
quantities enough to get things done, then you may have something
workable.
And, most important, start returning the 'power to the people' by
having national votes on most of the legislation the tea baggers
propose. This is the only way you would have a chance to change the
political status quo. (But I think this is all fantasy and wishful
thinking myself.)
But, don't be under the delusion of thinking that tea baggers will fix
all our woes. You must accept we have built a defective model for long
term population support in the world and very much in America.
I've heard people on TV say they just want their old America back?
America's golden age was back in the 50's. Yes, it was a marvelous
time to have lived. But alas, it is far gone and never to return...so
start getting used to it.
China is positioned to take over as the number one world super power
and by mid century Hispanics will be a projected 33% of the pop in the
US of A...that is 1 out of 3 people will be Hispanics.
Now, I got nothing against Hispanics. They are hard working and nice
people in general. I was born in L.A. and lived there for 35 years, so
being outnumbered by Hispanics is nothing new to me. Last time I was
in L.A. I thought I was in Mexico. I just bring this stat up to
underscore that fact that our world is always evolving...and
flexibility is the hallmark of a good survivalist.
But, whether we are #1 or #2 in the world and irrespective of our
favorite national food is hamburgers or Tacos - we should still work
in a direction to run our country under the principles America was
founded on to the best of our abilities.
Lookout
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
Sure I can. It's been all over the news. And it's irrelevant to the
topic.
Lookout
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>smo...@board.net wrote in news:631ok5pfs00eikqncefra5q8aalpmja6mh@
>4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:25:30 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
>> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Excuse me? Who was the Chairmen of the House and Senate Finance
>>>Committees with oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac since 2006?
>Who
>>>gave those institutions a clean bill of health claiming that they were
>>>healthy and solvent with no problems as recently as July of 2008?
>Bonus
>>>points if you can name both of them.
>>
>> The GOP was in power in 2006
>
>Who won control of the house in 2006. Can you answer the questions above
>or would you also prefer to ignore them?
>
>> THe crisis came to a head during Bush's regime---the stimulus was his
>> puppy
>
>The stimulus was born of both Bush and Obama in joint discussions and was
>not part of the question you chose not to answer.
Cite the discussions please.
RD (The Sandman)
news:7mjrk5tqumk1elk7v...@4ax.com:
No, it isn't. It is only irrelevant to those who are so partisan, they
can't stand having the Democrats really having to share blame for the
economy.
RD (The Sandman)
news:4ojrk5l11qg66m20m...@4ax.com:
It was on TV, mon ami. Obama was fully aware and in on the plans that
Bush had for the stimulus. Or do you think that he walked into office
on January 20 with absolutely no idea what was going on? Your choice.
Lookout
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
He had nothing to do with the plan itself as you implied. Or I'll wait
for some proof that you haven't been able to come up with yet.
I'm not Gomez Adams..the French won't help you.
Lookout
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
I know where it started. I never said the dems had nothing to do with
it so you're lying again. The problem started with and the majority of
the problem was trickle down economic, unregulated banks and Wall
Street and tax breaks for the rich. Don't like the truth? Too bad.
RD (The Sandman)
4ax.com:
> On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:02:30 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>> Sure I can. It's been all over the news. And it's irrelevant to the
>>> topic.
>>>
>>
>>No, it isn't. It is only irrelevant to those who are so partisan, they
>>can't stand having the Democrats really having to share blame for the
>>economy.
>
> Having been out of power from 1994-2006 in the body that makes law and
> appropriates money, and out of power from 1980-1992 and 2000-2008,
> Care to explain what major Democratic policies caused the massive
> economic failure?
Since the Republicans never had a veto proof majority, some Democrats had
to cross the aisle and vote with them. If you truly think Democratic
hands are perfectly clean, you may try answering the question that was
posed in this thread. Who ran the oversight for Fannie Mae and Freddie
Mac in 2007 and 2008. And gave both of those entities clean bills of
health with no problems in sight as late as July of 2008? Bonus points if
you can name both of them.
(keep in mind that in 2000 clinton reduced the
> debt,
No, he didn't. The debt increased every year he was in office. He had a
surplus one year in budgeted items. It was the off budget stuff that did
him in.
> the economy was fine, and he handed a major surplus to bush)
He handed a *projected* surplus to Bush.
> I wanna hear your answer about that.
See above.
RD (The Sandman)
news:hhcsk5lm78spm2tga...@4ax.com:
Good, because they did. However, you did say that.
However, since you already had your warning......look just below.
so you're lying again.
PLONK!!
The problem started with and the majority of
> the problem was trickle down economic, unregulated banks and Wall
> Street and tax breaks for the rich. Don't like the truth? Too bad.
>
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RD (The Sandman)
4ax.com:
> On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:04:00 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>It was on TV, mon ami. Obama was fully aware and in on the plans that
>>Bush had for the stimulus. Or do you think that he walked into office
>>on January 20 with absolutely no idea what was going on? Your choice.
>
> And?
> '
> What Caused Bush to have "stimulus" discussions, bozo?
>
> Was it massive failure of the American Economy under REPUBLICAN
> government?
>
> or not?
>
Yep. BTW, I am not a Republican. I am a liberal....however, I wouldn't
stoop to being a Democrat either.
RD (The Sandman)
news:uacsk55acied534gk...@4ax.com:
You don't have any idea what the term "joint discussions" means? Or do
you think it means talking to a marijuana plant?
> I'm not Gomez Adams..the French won't help you.
>
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Lookout
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
Show us where I said that.
>
>However, since you already had your warning......look just below.
>
>so you're lying again.
>
>PLONK!!
>
>The problem started with and the majority of
>> the problem was trickle down economic, unregulated banks and Wall
>> Street and tax breaks for the rich. Don't like the truth? Too bad.
>>
I didn't say the dems had nothing to do with it in that statement. I
said it "STARTED with and the MAJORITY of the problem". Are you having
problems with that word? Started? Or is it majority you're having
problems with?
You lied again. I never said the dems had nothing to do with it.
Lookout
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
Uh..you're avoiding the question. Show us where Obama and bush had
discussions concerning the stimulus BEFORE they were enacted. That's
all you gotta do. Prove you're not lying. Simple, huh?