Maybe the NRA really is right...
Lloyd Wood
so...@primenet.com (Soren Ragsdale) wrote:
>I still think that a suppressed MP5 is the finest firearm ever made. Last
>summer I learned to shoot 5" groups with it at 30 feet while running, from
>a guy who used to be in the South African military.
Have you ever wondered why paper targets on shooting ranges are man-shaped
and black?
L.
did not serve in the South African Defence Force. Did not shoot blecks.
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Lone_Wolf
In <4sc4jc$5...@info-server.surrey.ac.uk> Lloyd Wood <L.W...@surrey.ac.uk> writes:
#so...@primenet.com (Soren Ragsdale) wrote:
#>I still think that a suppressed MP5 is the finest firearm ever made. Last
#>summer I learned to shoot 5" groups with it at 30 feet while running, from
#>a guy who used to be in the South African military.
#Have you ever wondered why paper targets on shooting ranges are man-shaped
#and black?
Depends on what targets you decide to use. The ones I use for self-defense
practice are usually blue. I use black bullseye targets when practicing
for accuracy. I've also used red, orange, and brown targets.
James
#L.
#did not serve in the South African Defence Force. Did not shoot blecks.
#--
#<URL:http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/L.Wood/><mailto:L.W...@surrey.ac.uk>
Steve Hix
In article 5...@info-server.surrey.ac.uk, Lloyd Wood <L.W...@surrey.ac.uk> writes:
:so...@primenet.com (Soren Ragsdale) wrote:
:
:>I still think that a suppressed MP5 is the finest firearm ever made. Last
:>summer I learned to shoot 5" groups with it at 30 feet while running, from
:>a guy who used to be in the South African military.
:
:Have you ever wondered why paper targets on shooting ranges are man-shaped
:and black?
Odd. At the ranges I patronize, they are black and white or black, white, and
orange. And concentric circles.
They are only man-shaped if you have circular or spherical friends...
Lone_Wolf
In <4sg223$s...@rs10.tcs.tulane.edu> f...@cs.tulane.edu (Frank Silbermann) writes:
#><4sc4jc$5...@info-server.surrey.ac.uk> Lloyd Wood <L.W...@surrey.ac.uk> :
#>
#># Have you ever wondered why paper targets on shooting ranges are
#># man-shaped and black?
#>
#In article <4sdru6$1...@gypsy.cad.gatech.edu>,
#Lone_Wolf <gt6...@cad.gatech.edu> wrote:
#> The ones I use for self-defense practice are usually blue.
#You're training to kill cops? :-)
No, then I'd be using dark blue targets that shoot back :-) These are
light blue targets, which just HAPPEN to be the same sort some of the local
cops use... :-) (yes, there HAVE been certain political groups claiming that
the color targets used is an indication of bias on the parts of cops, and few
living people have blue skin :-) ).
James
George Herbert
Frank Silbermann <f...@cs.tulane.edu> wrote:
>Lone_Wolf <gt6...@cad.gatech.edu> wrote:
>> The ones I use for self-defense practice are usually blue.
>
Where I shoot regularly, they stock black and green and white-on-black
silhouettes. I asked for pink on black so I could work out some of
my northern-california-wants-to-nuke-southern-california angst but
apparently it's not manufactured.
-george
Michael McClary
In article <4sc4jc$5...@info-server.surrey.ac.uk>,
Lloyd Wood <L.W...@surrey.ac.uk> wrote:
>Have you ever wondered why paper targets on shooting ranges are man-shaped
>and black?
Man-shaped targets are black-on-white because a human silhouette will
normally be darker than the background regardless of the human's skin color.
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Bruce Erickson
In article 5...@info-server.surrey.ac.uk, Lloyd Wood <L.W...@surrey.ac.uk> () writes:
>so...@primenet.com (Soren Ragsdale) wrote:
>
>>I still think that a suppressed MP5 is the finest firearm ever made. Last
>>summer I learned to shoot 5" groups with it at 30 feet while running, from
>>a guy who used to be in the South African military.
>
>and black?
>
>
>did not serve in the South African Defence Force. Did not shoot blecks.
Why are they printed with the same ink used by newspapers?
(Excpet for the targets printed in green and orange)
Frank Silbermann
><4sc4jc$5...@info-server.surrey.ac.uk> Lloyd Wood <L.W...@surrey.ac.uk> :
>
># Have you ever wondered why paper targets on shooting ranges are
># man-shaped and black?
>
In article <4sdru6$1...@gypsy.cad.gatech.edu>,
Cwazy Wabbit
In article <4sdru6$1...@gypsy.cad.gatech.edu>
gt6...@cad.gatech.edu (Lone_Wolf) writes:
> In <4sc4jc$5...@info-server.surrey.ac.uk> Lloyd Wood <L.W...@surrey.ac.uk> writes:
> #Have you ever wondered why paper targets on shooting ranges are man-shaped
> #and black?
> Depends on what targets you decide to use. The ones I use for self-defense
> practice are usually blue. I use black bullseye targets when practicing
> for accuracy. I've also used red, orange, and brown targets.
>
> James
Lloyd must be referring to the targets found on Police ranges.
B-Jay
[x] No Guns [x] No Rights [x] No Future [x] No Shit
onet...@why.net
> > The ones I use for self-defense practice are usually blue.
>
> You're training to kill cops? :-)
>
Nope. Smurfs.
Francis A. Ney, Jr.
In article <4shi42$24...@trout.ab.umd.edu> tmi...@umabnet.ab.umd.edu writes:
> Me, I like the Barney targets myself :).
The archery range at Pennsic (a medieval war in PA) usually has a 3-foot
Barney downrange. Score one point for a hit, three points for a hit in a
critical area (no, his head is *not* considered a critical area).
Barney must die! Death to the purple pedophile!
---
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cause of individual liberty. Not with the Democratic Fascist Party being led
by a terrorist mass-murderer and his crooked wife, Lady Macbeth, the Socialist
Republican Party opting to run a retarded zombie for President, and the
Drool-chinned Stumblebum Party (oops, make that 'we' Libertarians) giving a
spastic nod and a belch to an electoral cross between Werner 'EST' Erhard and
Immanuel Velikovsky." - L. Neil Smith
Thomas H Miller
From a computer far far away George Herbert (gher...@crl.com) wrote:: >> The ones I use for self-defense practice are usually blue.
: >
: >You're training to kill cops? :-)
: Where I shoot regularly, they stock black and green and white-on-black
: silhouettes. I asked for pink on black so I could work out some of
: my northern-california-wants-to-nuke-southern-california angst but
: apparently it's not manufactured.
Me, I like the Barney targets myself :).
Tom
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So then f...@cs.tulane.edu (Frank Silbermann) said:
]
] ><4sc4jc$5...@info-server.surrey.ac.uk> Lloyd Wood <L.W...@surrey.ac.uk> :
] >
] ># Have you ever wondered why paper targets on shooting ranges are
] ># man-shaped and black?
] >
] In article <4sdru6$1...@gypsy.cad.gatech.edu>,
] Lone_Wolf <gt6...@cad.gatech.edu> wrote:
] > The ones I use for self-defense practice are usually blue.
]
] You're training to kill cops? :-)
]
No, Smurfs.
BoB
teCh
THAT one was obvious
aut...@mainelink.net
Seeing the tit;le of this post, I couldn't resist responding.
Of course the NRA is right -- faaaar far right.
Jim
Keith Marchington
author writes:
: Seeing the tit;le of this post, I couldn't resist responding.
: Of course the NRA is right -- faaaar far right.
And I must assume from the tenor of your post that you think this
is a bad thing. Funny, that, I feel just the opposite.
--
Keith
#
# The opinions expressed herein are those of the author and do not
# represent the views of the Hewlett-Packard Co.
#
Peter H. Proctor
In article <4slngu$q...@news.ime.net> aut...@mainelink.net writes:
>From: aut...@mainelink.net
>Subject: Re: Maybe the NRA really is right... in a weird way
>Date: 18 Jul 1996 16:07:58 GMT
>Seeing the tit;le of this post, I couldn't resist responding.
> Of course the NRA is right -- faaaar far right.
> Jim
Speaking for my self, I've always been a liberal democrat. You make
the same mistake that cost the Dems the '92 election. This is not really a
left-right conflict. it's a civil liberties issue. All of us believers in
the entire Bill of Rights against all you authoritarians <g>.
Dr. P
Sam A. Kersh
aut...@mainelink.net wrote:
>Seeing the tit;le of this post, I couldn't resist responding.
>
> Of course the NRA is right -- faaaar far right.
>
> Jim
>
May we assume from this, Jim, the ATF Guy, that you are from the
FAR LEFT??
Sam A. Kersh
sa...@i-link.net
NRA Life Member
TSRA
===============================================================
To hell with the "big stick," carry a Colt.
Me
Soren Ragsdale
In article <4sgm4g$c...@gypsy.cad.gatech.edu>, gt6...@cad.gatech.edu
(Lone_Wolf) wrote:
> No, then I'd be using dark blue targets that shoot back :-) These are
> light blue targets, which just HAPPEN to be the same sort some of the local
> cops use... :-) (yes, there HAVE been certain political groups claiming that
> the color targets used is an indication of bias on the parts of cops, and few
> living people have blue skin :-) ).
Possibly the most horrible thing I have ever seen in my life was a slide
that my dad brought home from work one day. Another genetic disease
conference, possibly the same one that he took the baby through carry-on
to.
There's a disease where your skin gets messed up. Instead of cuticle to
grow nail staying on your fingers, it covers your entire body. What this
means is that if you're unfortunate enough to be that baby, you grow until
your fingernail exoskeleton splits.
In this circumstance, the skin/nail is markedly blue. These babies,
however, are not a threat to anyone and should not be shot, even if they
_do_ seem to be attacking someone.
--
Soren Ragsdale - so...@primenet.com
Scout
In article <4sc4jc$5...@info-server.surrey.ac.uk>, Lloyd Wood <L.W...@surrey.ac.uk> says:
>
>so...@primenet.com (Soren Ragsdale) wrote:
>
>>I still think that a suppressed MP5 is the finest firearm ever made. Last
>>summer I learned to shoot 5" groups with it at 30 feet while running, from
>>a guy who used to be in the South African military.
>
>and black?
Actually, most of the targets I've ever seen at shooting ranges are
circular. With the exception of military and police ranges. Now
I have sometimes seen such targets at civilian ranges, but they're
rare, and usually because the person involved is training for
self defense. As to their being black, that's the result of the
standard one color print job. ie. when printing with only one color
the standard color is black. ie. black on white or if it's a cheap
print job black on tan. Since tan paper isn't bleached white, and
thus is cheaper than white paper. You can get targets printed in
other colors, but they are usually more expensive (unless many are
made) as the printer must change the color of ink in the presses, a
fairly long job. Unless you want yellow, blue, or red which are the
standard the standard colors for color print jobs. However, these
colors provide less of a contrast for the shooter, thus making it
harder to distiguish the target.
Lee Doolan
In article <1996Jul2...@msuvx1.memphis.edu>,
<keba...@cc.memphis.edu> wrote:
=so...@primenet.com (Soren Ragsdale) writes:
=
=[talk.bizarre retained in followup because the subject is... --KB]
=
[ ... some snippage ... ]
=>
=> that my dad brought home from work one day. Another genetic disease
=> conference, possibly the same one that he took the baby through carry-on
=> to.
=>
=> There's a disease where your skin gets messed up. Instead of cuticle to
=> grow nail staying on your fingers, it covers your entire body. What this
=> means is that if you're unfortunate enough to be that baby, you grow until
=> your fingernail exoskeleton splits.
=>
=> In this circumstance, the skin/nail is markedly blue. These babies,
=> however, are not a threat to anyone and should not be shot, even if they
=> _do_ seem to be attacking someone.
=
= Come on now, 'fess up... this must be an urban legend.
=
= You_might_be able to get a baby that grew scales, but a
=continuous keratin "husk" is a bit unlikely it seems to me.
=An embryo that's that bad messed up genetically is probably
=going to be a spontaneous abortion or a stillbirth or something.
=You shouldn't be able to live with a condition like that,
Now that's where you are most definitely and demonstrably wrong. A
young lady from my neighborhood gave birth several years previously
to a child with such a condition, known as Houghton-X-Ra syndrome
after it's principal developers. The child metamorphosed, after a
time, into a Pterodactyl which I have seen flying past my living
room window on numerous occasions.
keba...@cc.memphis.edu
so...@primenet.com (Soren Ragsdale) writes:
[talk.bizarre retained in followup because the subject is... --KB]
> gt6...@cad.gatech.edu (Lone_Wolf) wrote:
>
>> No, then I'd be using dark blue targets that shoot back :-) These are
>> light blue targets, which just HAPPEN to be the same sort some of the local
>> cops use... :-) (yes, there HAVE been certain political groups claiming that
>> the color targets used is an indication of bias on the parts of cops, and few
>> living people have blue skin :-) ).
>
> Possibly the most horrible thing I have ever seen in my life was a slide
> that my dad brought home from work one day. Another genetic disease
> conference, possibly the same one that he took the baby through carry-on
> to.
>
> There's a disease where your skin gets messed up. Instead of cuticle to
> grow nail staying on your fingers, it covers your entire body. What this
> means is that if you're unfortunate enough to be that baby, you grow until
> your fingernail exoskeleton splits.
>
> In this circumstance, the skin/nail is markedly blue. These babies,
> however, are not a threat to anyone and should not be shot, even if they
> _do_ seem to be attacking someone.
Come on now, 'fess up... this must be an urban legend.
You_might_be able to get a baby that grew scales, but a
continuous keratin "husk" is a bit unlikely it seems to me.
An embryo that's that bad messed up genetically is probably
going to be a spontaneous abortion or a stillbirth or something.
You shouldn't be able to live with a condition like that,
since your digestive endothelium is, as I recall, also derived
from the same germinal layers as your skin.
--
**x*dna Ken Barnes, LifeSci Bldg. The University Of Memphis
*(==) * <keba...@cc.memphis.edu> Memphis, Tennessee, U.S.A.
* \' * NRA/JPFO/ASM/GOP/U-U [Clinton Gone '96]
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"If it came to me, a repeal came to me,
I wouldn't sign it. I'd probably veto it too..."
--former Republican Presidential candidate
Robert Dole, _CBS Evening News,_ 7/12/96
"Keep the assault weapons ban."
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Nosy
< Seeing the tit;le of this post, I couldn't resist responding.
< Of course the NRA is right -- faaaar far right.
Not nearly as far "right" as the organizers of the "Good Old Boy"
roundup, who happen to have been in the Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco, Firearms and Nigger Hunting Licenses.
Gee, I wonder if "Author" ever spent any time in the
Nashville office....
Michael Emery Stora
Lee Doolan (ldo...@pangloss.ucsf.edu) wrote:
: In article <1996Jul2...@msuvx1.memphis.edu>,: =[talk.bizarre retained in followup because the subject is... --KB]
: =
: [ ... some snippage ... ]
: =>
: => conference, possibly the same one that he took the baby through carry-on
: => to.
: =>
: => There's a disease where your skin gets messed up. Instead of cuticle to
: => grow nail staying on your fingers, it covers your entire body. What this
: => means is that if you're unfortunate enough to be that baby, you grow until
: => your fingernail exoskeleton splits.
: =>
: => In this circumstance, the skin/nail is markedly blue. These babies,
: => however, are not a threat to anyone and should not be shot, even if they
: => _do_ seem to be attacking someone.
: =
: = Come on now, 'fess up... this must be an urban legend.
: =
: = You_might_be able to get a baby that grew scales, but a
: =continuous keratin "husk" is a bit unlikely it seems to me.
: =An embryo that's that bad messed up genetically is probably
: =going to be a spontaneous abortion or a stillbirth or something.
: =You shouldn't be able to live with a condition like that,
: Now that's where you are most definitely and demonstrably wrong. A
: young lady from my neighborhood gave birth several years previously
: to a child with such a condition, known as Houghton-X-Ra syndrome
: after it's principal developers. The child metamorphosed, after a
: time, into a Pterodactyl which I have seen flying past my living
: room window on numerous occasions.
What the hell is this doing in T.P.G?
The poster may be a bit confused . . . There are abot three types of
collagen in the human body and there is a genetic defect which causes
people to substitute the very stiff type of collagen used in tendon for
the collagenin in their dermis. As the children grow, their mouths get
stuck open and limbs immobilized without repeated corrective surgury.
This is not a hard "finger nail-like shell", but mearly much stiffer,less
elastic skin. This is the only thing I am aware that resembles what the
author is refering to. Otherwise, he may just be making it up.
Mike
keba...@cc.memphis.edu
st...@grove.ufl.edu (Michael Emery Stora) writes:
> keba...@cc.memphis.edu (Ken Barnes) wrote:
>
>> so...@primenet.com (Soren Ragsdale) writes:
>>
>> [talk.bizarre retained in followup because the subject is... --KB]
>>> [...]
>>> There's a disease where your skin gets messed up. Instead of cuticle to
>>> grow nail staying on your fingers, it covers your entire body. What this
>>> means is that if you're unfortunate enough to be that baby, you grow until
>>> your fingernail exoskeleton splits.
>>>
>>> In this circumstance, the skin/nail is markedly blue. These babies,
>>> however, are not a threat to anyone and should not be shot, even if they
>>> _do_ seem to be attacking someone.
>>
>> Come on now, 'fess up... this must be an urban legend.
>>
>> You_might_be able to get a baby that grew scales, but a
>> continuous keratin "husk" is a bit unlikely it seems to me.
>> An embryo that's that bad messed up genetically is probably
>> going to be a spontaneous abortion or a stillbirth or something.
>> You shouldn't be able to live with a condition like that,
>
> What the hell is this doing in T.P.G?
We somehow wandered into the subject of shooting targets
that are shaped like blue people. (Or purple dinosaurs.)
> The poster may be a bit confused . . . There are about three types of
> collagen in the human body and there is a genetic defect which causes
> people to substitute the very stiff type of collagen used in tendon for
> the collagenin in their dermis. As the children grow, their mouths get
> stuck open and limbs immobilized without repeated corrective surgury.
> This is not a hard "finger nail-like shell", but mearly much stiffer,less
> elastic skin. This is the only thing I am aware that resembles what the
> author is refering to. Otherwise, she may just be making it up.
>
> Mike
I'm subsequently informed by the original poster that
none of these "hard shell" babies are born alive, which
is what I suspected would happen in such a case. Now,
if one were to figure out an enzyme pathway for synthesis
of aramid fibers, and clone it into an embryo, wouldn't it
be bizarre to have someone who can grow "bulletproof" skin?
Sounds like one of those militaristic science-fiction
movies about the engineered "supersoldiers," eh? :)
H Keith Henson
keba...@cc.memphis.edu wrote:
[snip]
: I'm subsequently informed by the original poster that
: none of these "hard shell" babies are born alive, which
: is what I suspected would happen in such a case. Now,
: if one were to figure out an enzyme pathway for synthesis
: of aramid fibers, and clone it into an embryo, wouldn't it
: be bizarre to have someone who can grow "bulletproof" skin?
: Sounds like one of those militaristic science-fiction
: movies about the engineered "supersoldiers," eh? :)
On a par with the gene spliced goats. They make cheese which
is over 50% C4.