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Pennsylvania Non-Resident CHL permits (License To Carry Firearm -- LTCF) by mail too

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Herb Martin

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Jun 16, 2008, 2:03:03 PM6/16/08
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Apparently Pennsylvania will let you use your existing CHL.

$26 isn't a bad price if it gives you states you need on reciprocity.

Pennsylvania Non-Resident CHL permits (License To Carry Firearm -- LTCF by
mail.
http://www.co.centre.pa.us/sheriff/license_application.asp

Instructions for License to Carry Firearm Application
Completed and Signed Application must be accompanied by the following:
1. A photo copy of a license to carry a firearm (concealed carry permit)
from your home state if that state has a concealed carry law.
2. A photo copy of your Driver's License.
3. A self addressed stamped envelope.
4. $26.00 fee for five year license and out of state processing.
(Check/money order made out to Centre County Sheriff.)

Mail to:
Centre County Sheriff's Office
213 East High Street
Bellefonte, PA 16823

License to Carry Firearm Application
http://www.co.centre.pa.us/sheriff/license_to_carry.pdf


RosemontCrest

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Jun 16, 2008, 5:57:58 PM6/16/08
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On Jun 16, 11:03 am, "Herb Martin" <n...@learnquick.com> wrote:
> Apparently Pennsylvania will let you use your existing CHL.
>
> $26 isn't a bad price if it gives you states you need on reciprocity.
>
> Pennsylvania Non-Resident CHL permits (License To Carry Firearm -- LTCF by
> mail.http://www.co.centre.pa.us/sheriff/license_application.asp

>
> Instructions for License to Carry Firearm Application
> Completed and Signed Application must be accompanied by the following:
>    1. A photo copy of a license to carry a firearm (concealed carry permit)
> from your home state if that state has a concealed carry law.
>    2. A photo copy of your Driver's License.
>    3. A self addressed stamped envelope.
>    4. $26.00 fee for five year license and out of state processing.
> (Check/money order made out to Centre County Sheriff.)
>
> Mail to:
>   Centre County Sheriff's Office
>   213 East High Street
>   Bellefonte, PA 16823
>
> License to Carry Firearm Application
>    http://www.co.centre.pa.us/sheriff/license_to_carry.pdf

New Hampshire's Pistol/Revolver License is easy to get too with
requirements similar to Pennsylvania's. $20 for 4 years.

http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/ssb/permitslicensing/documents/dssp260.pdf

When I got mine in addition to my resident license, the number of
states in which I could carry legally nearly doubled to 30. Not quite
as good as Florida or Utah licenses, but certainly less expensive.

Herb Martin

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Jun 16, 2008, 6:25:14 PM6/16/08
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"RosemontCrest" <rosemo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 16, 11:03 am, "Herb Martin" <n...@learnquick.com> wrote:
> Apparently Pennsylvania will let you use your existing CHL.
>
> $26 isn't a bad price if it gives you states you need on reciprocity.
>
> Pennsylvania Non-Resident CHL permits (License To Carry Firearm -- LTCF by
> mail.http://www.co.centre.pa.us/sheriff/license_application.asp

>
> Instructions for License to Carry Firearm Application
> Completed and Signed Application must be accompanied by the following:
> 1. A photo copy of a license to carry a firearm (concealed carry permit)
> from your home state if that state has a concealed carry law.
> 2. A photo copy of your Driver's License.
> 3. A self addressed stamped envelope.
> 4. $26.00 fee for five year license and out of state processing.
> (Check/money order made out to Centre County Sheriff.)
>
> Mail to:
> Centre County Sheriff's Office
> 213 East High Street
> Bellefonte, PA 16823
>
> License to Carry Firearm Application
> http://www.co.centre.pa.us/sheriff/license_to_carry.pdf

=New Hampshire's Pistol/Revolver License is easy to get too with
=requirements similar to Pennsylvania's. $20 for 4 years.

Yes, we have discussed New Hamshire here previously, but had not
known about Pennsylvania being so easy to obtain, and almost
as cheap -- I also believe you may get one or two extra with PA
vs. NH if you are starting from TX residential.

http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/ssb/permitslicensing/documents/dssp260.pdf

=When I got mine in addition to my resident license, the number of
=states in which I could carry legally nearly doubled to 30. Not quite
=as good as Florida or Utah licenses, but certainly less expensive.

I don't know your state, but now TX pretty much covers the entire
"30" for us.

FL is expensive, Utah requires that pesky UT instructor given
course (even if given outside the state.)

I think I saw a Dallas-Ft Worth Texas CHL class that claimed
they run the UT at the same time for those who want to pay
a little extra and take the extra test etc.

NH and PA (now that I know) are both cheap and easy to
do by mail.

WA state isn't very expensive, but it requires you to show up
in person for the application, prints, picture, and only buys
you one or two states usually.


Mr. Albritton

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Jun 17, 2008, 10:01:39 AM6/17/08
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Pretty awesome!!! Personally, I have a Colorado CCW. In my case, it would
not be beneficial to get one from Penn State.
For those who are interested.... GO FOR IT!!! It's a whole lot better than
nothing!


Herb Martin

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Jun 17, 2008, 10:38:50 AM6/17/08
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"Mr. Albritton" <albri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Yes, the need for cross licensing is becoming less critical as more
and more states join the 30+ that tend to reciprocity.

FL, NH, UT, and (now) PA offer the easiest additional licenses,
those that can be acquired by mail without actually visiting the
state first.

I wonder if there are others. WA allows quick and easy out of
state licensing even without an existing CHL but you have to
show up at least once and then wait a couple of months so it
is no good for a 'first visit' or your 'next visit' until you do that.

RosemontCrest

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Jun 17, 2008, 10:58:00 PM6/17/08
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On Jun 16, 3:25 pm, "Herb Martin" <n...@learnquick.com> wrote:
> "RosemontCrest" <rosemontcr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/ssb/permitslicensing/document...

>
> =When I got mine in addition to my resident license, the number of
> =states in which I could carry legally nearly doubled to 30. Not quite
> =as good as Florida or Utah licenses, but certainly less expensive.
>
> I don't know your state, but now TX pretty much covers the entire
> "30" for us.
>
> FL is expensive, Utah requires that pesky UT instructor given
> course (even if given outside the state.)
>
> I think I saw a Dallas-Ft Worth Texas CHL class that claimed
> they run the UT at the same time for those who want to pay
> a little extra and take the extra test etc.
>
> NH and PA (now that I know) are both cheap and easy to
> do by mail.
>
> WA state isn't very expensive, but it requires you to show up
> in person for the application, prints, picture, and only buys
> you one or two states usually.

Yes, now that TX recognizes by governor's proclamation the right to
carry, my WA resident license is valid in that state until that
proclamation is revoked by the whim of any TX governor. If that
proclamation is revoked, I would need to acquire a PA non-resident
license to legally carry in TX. With both WA resident and NH non-
resident licenses and the proclamation by the TX governor, I'm legally
authorized to carry in at least 30 states.

It's not difficult, but it's a PITA to keep track of these "governor's
proclamations" enabling or restricting concealed carry within their
jurisdictions.

Herb Martin

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Jun 17, 2008, 11:26:03 PM6/17/08
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"RosemontCrest" <rosemo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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It won't be revoked -- they did that to rationalize the process for
those states that seem to be incapable of reciprocity.

Get WA to support reciprocity and you will get formal agreements.

RosemontCrest

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Jun 18, 2008, 12:00:02 AM6/18/08
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RosemontCrest

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Jun 18, 2008, 12:18:23 AM6/18/08
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Regarding the claim that the "right to bear arms" will not be revoked
by the TX governor, I remind readers that this recognition is made
solely by the currently-active TX governor. Such proclamation can be
published by any TX governor and revoked by same. Beware.

Herb Martin

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Jun 18, 2008, 7:40:56 AM6/18/08
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"RosemontCrest" <rosemo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 17, 8:26 pm, "Herb Martin" <n...@learnquick.com> wrote:
> "RosemontCrest" <rosemontcr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> > WA state isn't very expensive, but it requires you to show up
> > in person for the application, prints, picture, and only buys
> > you one or two states usually.
>
> :Yes, now that TX recognizes by governor's proclamation the right to
> :carry, my WA resident license is valid in that state until that
> :proclamation is revoked by the whim of any TX governor. If that
> :proclamation is revoked, I would need to acquire a PA non-resident
> :license to legally carry in TX. With both WA resident and NH non-
> :resident licenses and the proclamation by the TX governor, I'm legally
> :authorized to carry in at least 30 states.
>
> :It's not difficult, but it's a PITA to keep track of these "governor's
> :proclamations" enabling or restricting concealed carry within their
> :jurisdictions.
>
> It won't be revoked -- they did that to rationalize the process for
> those states that seem to be incapable of reciprocity.
>
> Get WA to support reciprocity and you will get formal agreements.

:Regarding the claim that the "right to bear arms" will not be revoked

It's not the "right to bear arms" that is being protected but rather
ability to have a LICENSE or recognize an existing license.

:by the TX governor, I remind readers that this recognition is made


:solely by the currently-active TX governor. Such proclamation can be
:published by any TX governor and revoked by same. Beware.

You are more likely to lose your entire CHL law living in WA with
largely Democratic politicians and Seattle being so anti-gun or
pro-gun-control.

One key is that ALL CHL laws are really an egregious violation
of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. No such license to exercise
a right should ever be require.

Only Alaska has this part right -- a license IF you want it so that
you can travel to less free states and none required if you only
want to stay at home. Vermont wins for overall wisdom on the
very few laws regarding firearms -- mostly those forced by the
Federal law.

ALL Gun Control laws are worthless and therefore unconstitutional;
a RIGHT cannot be infringed without compelling state interest,
a PROVABLE benefit of the infringement and without using the
LEAST invasive method.

Since no gun contron can be shown to work, it is ALL a violation
of the Constitution.

But until we can remedy that, having a CHL is better than being
disarmed.

None of the CDC, the National Academy of Sciences of Sciences, nor DoJ
were able to find that ANY gun control reduces VIOLENT CRIME, MURDER,
SUICIDE or ACCIDENTS in any significant manner.


Don B. Kates and Gary A. Mauser, "Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and
Suicide? A Review of International Evidence" (June 6, 2006). ExpressO
Preprint Series. Working Paper 1413.
http://law.bepress.com/expresso/eps/1413
http://law.bepress.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6426&context=expresso
<<In this connection two recent studies are pertinent. In 2004 the U.S.
National Academy of
Sciences released its evaluation from an review of 253 journal articles, 99
books, 43 government
publications and some empirical research of its own. It could not identify
any gun control that had
reduced violent crime, suicide or gun accidents.(15) The same conclusion was
reached in a 2003
study by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control's review of then-extant
studies"(16)

(15) Charles F. Wellford, John V. Pepper, and Carol V. Petrie (eds.),
FIREARMS AND VIOLENCE: A CRITICAL REVIEW
(National Academy of Sciences, 2004). It is perhaps not amiss to note that
the review panel,
which was set up during the Clinton Administration, was almost entirely
composed of scholars who, to the extent
their views were publicly known before their appointments, favored gun
control.
(16) "First Reports Evaluating the Effectiveness of Strategies for
Preventing Violence: Firearms Laws" (CDC,
2003) <http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5214a2.htm>
>>


HeyBub

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Jun 18, 2008, 7:49:43 AM6/18/08
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RosemontCrest wrote:
>>
>> It won't be revoked -- they did that to rationalize the process for
>> those states that seem to be incapable of reciprocity.
>>
>> Get WA to support reciprocity and you will get formal agreements.
>
> Regarding the claim that the "right to bear arms" will not be revoked
> by the TX governor, I remind readers that this recognition is made
> solely by the currently-active TX governor. Such proclamation can be
> published by any TX governor and revoked by same. Beware.

Am I missing something here?

OUR governor corrects a grievous wrong done to the fair citizens of
Washington by their own elected pussies and YOU caution US over a courtesy
extended to the, evidently few, responsible citizens of your state?

It won't bother us if a future governor revokes the recognition; it will be
YOUR co-citizens who would be penalized. WE are not the ones to be
cautioned.

Still, while possible, it is inconceivable that such a revocation would take
place. We Texans do not elect such feckless fellows as you worry about.


Herb Martin

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Jun 18, 2008, 8:00:45 AM6/18/08
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"HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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And in fact our legislatures have been opening the CHL rules and removing
silly restrictions every session or two.

Ours is way overpriced* but at least they keep finding ways to reduce it.

Actually have to pay at all is wrong, and $1 over a drivers license is
over price.


Buck Rogers

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Jul 20, 2008, 4:44:11 PM7/20/08
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> published by any TX governor and revoked by same. Beware.- Hide quoted text -
>
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The people of the state of texas have the last say in this !! Texas
is not dictatorship that I know of .You need to learn your American
politics Brain !!

Buck Rogers

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You must over look Brain, his mouth out runs his pee brain. More
offten than not !
He needs to learn American politics, if he can get out of the fifth
grade !
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