Re: Bill Bonde discovers reality ... by accident Simpson didn't KIDNAP anybody fercrisesakes!!!
Reality_CheckŠ
the gun'' ) wrote:
> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>>
>> "Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote
>>
>>> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>>>> He goes into a room to get property stolen from him and yells out
>>>> "Don't let nobody out of this room." and the govt calls that
>>>> kidnapping!!!!
>>>
>>> Yep. Read the criminal statute, you stammering imbecile.
>>
>> I know what the statute says, you idiot, and that doesn't make it so.
>> Suppose the state redefined murder to include just shooting at
>> someone, even if you miss?? Would you convict someone of murder for
>> doing that?
>>
>> You want me to convict someone of kidnapping, the victim better be
>> tied up and restrained for hours at least. THINK
>>
> Actually, kidnapping has often required the element of being moved.
> For example, stealing something usually also requires that you move
> it from where it was. Imagine if that wasn't required. You stole
> something and you didn't even move it. Doesn't make a lot of sense.
> But we need to know what the rules are in Vegas for kidnapping.
>
> It seems that kidnapping has come to mean also just detaining. I'm
> not sure I'm willing to buy that given that it's difficult to
> commit an armed robbery and not "detain" someone for the time it
> takes to commit the armed robbery. I would certainly feel
> "detained" if someone was pointing a gun at me.
>
> We don't want to equate armed robbery with kidnapping and then hand
> out life sentences because there's then no reason for every armed
> robber not to just kill everyone he robs, fewer witnesses.
So are you asserting that tougher/longer prison sentences actually
increase the potential level of violence, thereby making citizens less safe?
Oh my!
Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who brought the gun'' )
No, I think that you have to have sentences that are different for
different levels of crime. If you give life to someone who steals a
horse, why shouldn't they kill all the witnesses? If you lack the
death penalty, what stops someone who kidnaps from murdering the
victim? Since the punishment is the same, why increase the odds
you'll get caught? Plainly OJ should've murdered the memorabilia
dealers and burned down the hotel. There would be nothing left but
the remains of the building suggesting a terrible accident.
"I saved as much of the stuff that was mine as I could but I
couldn't get any of the poor victims out of the door." ~OJ Simpson
talking to reporters outside the still smoking structure where he
heroically rescued some pictures and things he wanted back.
--
"Oh, I'm broke."
"Take another mortgage, don't give in."
"I thought you were broke. Where did you get all that money from?"
"Don't question me."
"Where did you get it?"
"I borrowed it from the bank."
"Well, you can't do that, that's cheating."
"Listen you little stoat, I own Park Lane, I can borrow as much
bloody money as I like."
~Joanna Lumley and Julia Sawalha, "Absolutely Fabulous"
Reality_CheckŠ
Exactly. So the myopic U$$A's "tough on crime" minimum mandatory
decades long sentencing for non-violent drug crimes increases the
propensity -- necessity -- towards violence for the reasons you've
given.
> If you lack the death penalty, what stops someone who kidnaps from
> murdering the
> victim?
What makes you think death is a "penalty" when the alternative is Life
without Parole
locked in a cage, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year, for the
rest of
one's natural life?
> Since the punishment is the same, why increase the odds
> you'll get caught? Plainly OJ should've murdered the memorabilia
> dealers and burned down the hotel.
Killing the witnesses worked out pretty well for him in 1995, eh?
Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who brought the gun'' )
To whatever extent that is true. Is it true that you'll get life
for having a few oz of cannabis?
> > If you lack the death penalty, what stops someone who kidnaps from
> > murdering the
> > victim?
>
> What makes you think death is a "penalty" when the alternative is Life
> without Parole
> locked in a cage, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year, for the
> rest of
> one's natural life?
>
I don't think that prison is the same as being locked in a bamboo
box. In America, I'm pretty certain you can get reading materials.
In fact, I think you can get legal reading materials. This is how
prisons get educated and come up with innovative appeals to clog
the courts with. I certainly wouldn't turn that down to die. Why
would you want to die?
> > Since the punishment is the same, why increase the odds
> > you'll get caught? Plainly OJ should've murdered the memorabilia
> > dealers and burned down the hotel.
>
> Killing the witnesses worked out pretty well for him in 1995, eh?
>
But that was the crime. If he'd done that as part of a robbery, you
might have a point.
nys999
news:48E8F999...@yahoo.co.uk:
Dang, real logic and humor, all at the same time. In a Bonde post. Pardon
me while I ship some ice skates to Hell
Reality_CheckŠ
Oklahoma, for example, has what are overall probably the harshest pot
penalties in the United States. Possession of any amount (such as the
residue of a joint) can bring up to a year in jail and a $500 fine. A second
offense (a second bust for the residue of a joint) warrants two years to
life and a $20,000 fine. Possession of paraphernalia (say, a single rolling
paper) is punishable by a year in jail and a $1,000 fine. Four years to life
imprisonment is mandated for sale or delivery of under 25 pounds, and the
minimum penalty increases with larger quantities. Punishments are doubled
for sale to a minor or within 1,000 feet of a school. And, as in several
other states, you can have your driver's license suspended as penalty even
if you're not driving while nabbed.
Will Foster is the most well-known victim of Oklahoma's zero-tolerance
legislation. The 42-year-old Tulsa father of three was given a 93-year
sentence in 1997 for 60 plants (said the prosecutor; 10 plants and 50
seedlings and clones, Foster maintained). Foster has advanced rheumatoid
arthritis, precisely the kind of ailment for which pot has been shown to be
an effective medicine in numerous studies, including six presented to the
Society for Neuroscience in Washington, D.C., in 1997. Governor Frank
Keating has ignored repeated pleas and declined to pardon him. In fact,
Keating is pushing the Oklahoma legislature to toughen its marijuana laws.
>
>>> If you lack the death penalty, what stops someone who kidnaps from
>>> murdering the
>>> victim?
>>
>> What makes you think death is a "penalty" when the alternative is
>> Life without Parole
>> locked in a cage, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year,
>> for the rest of
>> one's natural life?
>>
> I don't think that prison is the same as being locked in a bamboo
> box.
The first 3 words of what you wrote are the most accurate.
> In America, I'm pretty certain you can get reading materials.
How certain are you?
> In fact, I think you can get legal reading materials. This is how
> prisons get educated and come up with innovative appeals to clog
> the courts with.
So the courts are "clogged with innovative appeals", eh?
Refer back to the first 3 words you wrote.
> I certainly wouldn't turn that down to die. Why
> would you want to die?
Ask the ~800,000 people who attempt suicide every year in the U$A,
or the 30,000 who are successful ...
>>> Since the punishment is the same, why increase the odds
>>> you'll get caught? Plainly OJ should've murdered the memorabilia
>>> dealers and burned down the hotel.
>>
>> Killing the witnesses worked out pretty well for him in 1995, eh?
>>
> But that was the crime. If he'd done that as part of a robbery, you
> might have a point.
You don't think that Ron Goldman was "collateral damage" during the
deliberate
murder of Nicole ?
Reality_CheckŠ
> "Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who brought
> why do executing states have higher murder rates than those
> that do not?
Shhhh ... G aWol Bu$h will order a "surge" in executions ...
jerry warner
"Reality_CheckŠ" wrote:
Exceptin Missouri where everyone is rabid to begin with.
Peter Hucker
> "Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who brought
> the gun'' )" <tributyl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> news:48E8F999...@yahoo.co.uk:
>
>>
>>
>> "Reality_Check©" wrote:
>>>
>>> Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who brought
>>> the gun'' ) wrote:
>>> > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> "Reality_Check©" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote
Followup abuse detected
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nys999
news:op.uil7m...@fx62.mshome.net:
> On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 21:26:49 +0100, nys999 <nys...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> "Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who
>> brought the gun'' )" <tributyl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:48E8F999...@yahoo.co.uk:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Reality_CheckŠ" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who
>>>> brought the gun'' ) wrote:
>>>> > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote
Awwwwwww
Reality_CheckŠ
the gun'' ) wrote:
> "Reality_CheckŠ" wrote:
>>
>> Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who brought
>> the gun'' ) wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think you have carefully dodged the argument re justice. Forget
>>>> the rest of society for a moment. Consider yourself having
>>>> committed a murder because the man you murdered was preferred by a
>>>> woman you desired. You are found out and you are sentenced to
>>>> death. Would you consider that an unfair sentence? I don't
>>>> think you would - you would still fight against it but not because
>>>> you thought it unfair. (Aren't I doing a good job arguing for the
>>>> retentionists?) Of course one can't forget the rest of society
>>>> and the grisly business of state killing. 'One must kill the
>>>> killer because killing is wrong' is still an unshakable paradox.
>>>>
>>> Killing isn't what is wrong, murder is what is wrong. Heroes kill in
>>> war
>>
>> You really are one sick perverted ignoramus, aren't you Bonde?
>>
> What the hell?
>
>
>
>>> . The death penalty is just society making sure that those who
>>> commit the worst crimes are permanently separated from those whom
>>> they would otherwise make their next victims.
>>
>> That's what Saddam said when he had "criminals" executed in Iraq.
>>
> Since I'm not arguing that the death penalty can't be unjust, do
> you have any point? Are you going to say that making the trains run
> on time is fascist because Mussolini could do it?
>
>
>
>>> It also provides an important additional level of punishment beyond
>>> life in prison
>>> without parole.
>>
>> You still haven't shown that death is necessarily a "penalty",
>> especially in the context of the alternative being Life without
>> Parole locked in a cage, every minute of every hour of every day of
>> every week of every month
>> of every year for the rest of one's life.
>>
> With room to move around, TV, reading and study materials,
> communications with the outside. Prison isn't pleasant but it's not
> generally as bad as being dead.
What proof do you have that being dead is bad?
Don't you believe the Judeo-Christina bullshit about Heaven?
> And since most people who are on death row fight for
> a reduction to life in prison, your argument doesn't have merit.
800,000 Americans who attempt to commit suicide, and 30,000
who succeed EVERY YEAR say you're wrong.
Reality_CheckŠ
> On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:10:15 +0100, "Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more
> time for him than the guy who brought the gun'' )"
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> "Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John Rennie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Punishment is supposed
>>>>> to be useful for those that live. It is supposed to teach them
>>>>> not to transgress again or they'll get punished again. But as
>>>>> I posted above I don't take a moral stand on capital punishment -
>>>>> I'm a pragmatic abolitionist. I think it's antique and it
>>>>> places the US on the bottom rung of so called civilised countries
>>>>> as well as being a great waste of money.
>>>>>
>>>> I don't think you've addressed how it does give another level of
>>>> punishment which would discourage people from killing all the
>>>> witnesses.
>>>
>>> Post your proof that the DP "discourages people
>>> from killing all the witnesses"
>>>
>> It's pure logic. If there is nothing worse that can happen to you
>> beyond life in lockup and what you've already done warrants life in
>> lockup, why not do whatever you can to minimize getting caught, why
>> not kill all the witnesses and burn down the hotel?
>
> If what you've already done warrants the death penalty why not kill
> all the witnesses?
A logical killer who wanted to minimize their chances of being convicted
would have to consider that.
Fact is, most murders in the U$A that don't have witnesses NEVER get solved.
Reality_CheckŠ
> David Johnston wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:10:15 +0100, "Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more
>> time for him than the guy who brought the gun'' )"
>> <tributyl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who
>>>> brought the gun'' )" <tributyl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John Rennie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Punishment is supposed
>>>>>> to be useful for those that live. It is supposed to teach them
>>>>>> not to transgress again or they'll get punished again. But as
>>>>>> I posted above I don't take a moral stand on capital punishment
>>>>>> - I'm a pragmatic abolitionist. I think it's antique and it
>>>>>> places the US on the bottom rung of so called civilised
>>>>>> countries as well as being a great waste of money.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think you've addressed how it does give another level of
>>>>> punishment which would discourage people from killing all the
>>>>> witnesses.
>>>>
>>>> Post your proof that the DP "discourages people
>>>> from killing all the witnesses"
>>>>
>>> It's pure logic. If there is nothing worse that can happen to you
>>> beyond life in lockup and what you've already done warrants life in
>>> lockup, why not do whatever you can to minimize getting caught, why
>>> not kill all the witnesses and burn down the hotel?
>>
>> If what you've already done warrants the death penalty why not kill
>> all the witnesses?
>>
> finding ways to make it in the criminal's interest not to kill all
> the witnesses and burn down all the buildings is in order.
So how would your absurd assertion to lock up all "sex criminals"
for life achieve that?
Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who brought the gun'' )
What proof do I have that being dead is bad? I can see that
discussing anything with you is going to require building a
foundation that you don't seem to already have.
> > And since most people who are on death row fight for
> > a reduction to life in prison, your argument doesn't have merit.
>
> 800,000 Americans who attempt to commit suicide, and 30,000
> who succeed EVERY YEAR say you're wrong.
>
Most of those people don't really want to die. It's not that hard
to die, it's life that's difficult. In any case, we aren't talking
about people who want to die, we are talking about people who are
on death row or could be on death row for committing murder. Most
of them plainly do not wish to die.
Donna Evleth
> From: "Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who brought
> the gun'' )" <tributyl...@yahoo.co.uk>
> Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to
> those who come after us.
> Newsgroups:
> alt.activism.death-penalty,alt.true-crime,aus.legal,misc.legal,talk.politics.g
> uns,uk.legal
> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:37:20 +0100
> Subject: Re: Bill Bonde really is dumber than dirt -- Simpson didn't KIDNAP
> anybody fercrisesakes!!!
>
> Most of those people don't really want to die. It's not that hard
> to die, it's life that's difficult. In any case, we aren't talking
> about people who want to die, we are talking about people who are
> on death row or could be on death row for committing murder. Most
> of them plainly do not wish to die.
But some do. How do you explain them? I gave you an example, and you gave
me a repulsive response. You're going to have to do better, and give a real
explanation. If you can.
Donna Evleth
Reality_CheckŠ
Translation: You ain't got squat.
>
>
>
>>> And since most people who are on death row fight for
>>> a reduction to life in prison, your argument doesn't have merit.
>>
>> 800,000 Americans who attempt to commit suicide, and 30,000
>> who succeed EVERY YEAR say you're wrong.
>>
> Most of those people don't really want to die.
Got proof?
> It's not that hard to die, it's life that's difficult.
Exactly. So why make it easier via the Death "Penalty" ?
> In any case, we aren't talking about people who want to die,
> we are talking about people who are on death row or could
> be on death row for committing murder.
No, we are talking about your so called "Death 'Penalty'".
You still haven't proffered one shred of evidence or
support for your unfounded assertion that death is
necessarily a penalty.
Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who brought the gun'' )
A repulsive response? I didn't claim that no people wanted to die.
If you asked me, I would say that some people do want to die. In
fact, I believe that Ted Bundy said that he went to Florida to
continue his murder spree because they were more likely to put him
death. So the death penalty apparently attracts some killers.
Donna Evleth
> From: "Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who brought
> the gun'' )" <tributyl...@yahoo.co.uk>
> Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to
> those who come after us.
> Newsgroups:
> alt.activism.death-penalty,alt.true-crime,aus.legal,misc.legal,talk.politics.g
> uns,uk.legal
> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:09:32 +0100
> Subject: Simpson didn't KIDNAP anybody fercrisesakes!!!
>
> I didn't claim that no people wanted to die.
> If you asked me, I would say that some people do want to die. In
> fact, I believe that Ted Bundy said that he went to Florida to
> continue his murder spree because they were more likely to put him
> death. So the death penalty apparently attracts some killers.
Look at your last sentence. It is in direct contradiction to the idea that
the death penalty is a deterrent. You are telling us that it may be a
stimulus. Bravo!
Donna Evleth
>
Mitchell Holman
news:C5126538.7129B%dev...@wanadoo.fr:
You mean Bonde doesn't know what he is talking about?
Tell us it ain't so!
Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who brought the gun'' )
1) I'm aware of what I'm saying.
2) The whole paragraph talks about how some people are essentially
attracted by the death penalty to the place that has the death
penalty, the last sentence clearly states that as fact. I'd prefer
to leave out the obvious part, instead allowing the reader his
chance to figure it out for himself, but I know that such
"ambiguity" of purpose is responded to around here with the claim
that it's bad English.
3) The people attracted to the death penalty are few and not
representative of the average person's reaction to the threat of
capital punishment.
Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who brought the gun'' )
So your reaction to my example is that I don't know what I'm
talking about? Is my example wrong? I think you could look up Ted
Bundy and find that my example is valid.
Mitchell Holman
news:48ECE067...@yahoo.co.uk:
Actually you are the one claiming that Ted Bundy
moved to Florida because he was more likely to get
the death penalty there.
Care to back up that claim?
Planet Visitor II
Heh heh...
Pot...
Kettle...
Black...
> Tell us it ain't so!
Mitchell insists that "The Preident (sic) of the US can pardon anyone
he wishes without asking anyone's permission. Any action by the
Federal government trumps the power of the state governments"
Of course that is total nonsense and is exposed as nonsense by the
Federal government itself at --
http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/pardon_instructions.htm
Where one will find the explanation that -- "Under the Constitution,
only federal criminal convictions, such as those obtained in the
United States District Courts, may be pardoned by the President. In
addition, the President's pardon power extends to convictions obtained
in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia and military
court-martial proceedings. However, the President cannot pardon a
state criminal offense. Accordingly, if you are seeking clemency for a
state criminal conviction, you should not complete and submit this
petition. Instead, you should contact the Governor or other
appropriate authorities of the state where you reside or where the
conviction occurred (such as the state board of pardons and paroles)
to determine whether any relief is available to you under state law.
If you have a federal conviction, information about the conviction may
be obtained from the clerk of the federal court where you were
convicted. "
Tell us it aint' so, Joe!!!
Planet Visitor II
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/dictionary.html
Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who brought the gun'' )
You are free to google on these things if you want to know more. I
remember that that is something he claimed.
--
Here's an idea that any state can run with if it thinks it makes
sense. How about when times are good, instead of expanding the
state's budget so much, which just makes it harder to pay for when
times get bad again, start to get ahead of the curve by saving.
Eventually you could have a quarter then half a year and then
finally an entire budget year of funds socked away drawing interest
and ready for spending. You'd know what you had and wouldn't have
to estimate. What a concept!
Mitchell Holman
the gun'' )" <tributyl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
In other words you can't back up your claim.
Because you made it up, of course.
> I
> remember that that is something he claimed.
We have already dealt with your fabrications
based on your memory.
Mitchell Holman
"Saddam repeatedly attacked the US."
Bill Bonde, Aug 11, 2001. He has since been unable to
back up this claim.
Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who brought the gun'' )
I would never do that. You are the liar here. It is possible that I
can make a mistake, or recall something incorrectly, but I'm not
going to just make it up. Ted Bundy did say he went to Florida to
increase the chances of getting the death penalty. I don't know why
you have a problem with that unless it's just your usual view that
anything I say you have to counter with claims I "lied".
> > I
> > remember that that is something he claimed.
>
> We have already dealt with your fabrications
> based on your memory.
>
Liar. I didn't fabricate anything.
>
> "Saddam repeatedly attacked the US."
> Bill Bonde, Aug 11, 2001. He has since been unable to
> back up this claim.
>
This is another of your lies. Saddam did repeatedly attack the US.
Here's a pic:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/10/17/article-1078392-0225C6E2000005DC-795_468x510.jpg
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9609/04/iraq.operation/index.html
#begin quote
September 4, 1996
Web posted at: 12:10 p.m. EDT (1610 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A U.S. fighter jet patrolling the expanded
no-fly zone in Iraq fired a missile at an Iraqi radar installation
Wednesday, U.S. officials said.
An Iraqi radar site on the ground locked on to an Air Force F-16,
the officials said. The fighter retaliated immediately with a
missile that locks on to radar signals and follows them to their
source. It was not known whether the missile hit the radar
facility.
#end quote
These radar locks, missile firings and whatnot are attacks on the
US whether you take them as such or not. Notice that the US
responds using deadly force. That wouldn't be the case if it were
not considered an attack.
Mitchell Holman
the gun'' )" <tributyl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
Prove it.
>
>
>> > I
>> > remember that that is something he claimed.
>>
>> We have already dealt with your fabrications
>> based on your memory.
>>
> Liar. I didn't fabricate anything.
You fabricate constantly.
>
>
>>
>> "Saddam repeatedly attacked the US."
>> Bill Bonde, Aug 11, 2001. He has since been unable to
>> back up this claim.
>>
> This is another of your lies. Saddam did repeatedly attack the US.
> Here's a pic:
> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/10/17/article-1078392-0225C6E2000005D
> C-795_468x510.jpg
>
> http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9609/04/iraq.operation/index.html
> #begin quote
> September 4, 1996
> Web posted at: 12:10 p.m. EDT (1610 GMT)
>
> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A U.S. fighter jet patrolling the expanded
> no-fly zone in Iraq fired a missile at an Iraqi radar installation
> Wednesday, U.S. officials said.
>
> An Iraqi radar site on the ground locked on to an Air Force F-16,
> the officials said. The fighter retaliated immediately with a
> missile that locks on to radar signals and follows them to their
> source. It was not known whether the missile hit the radar
> facility.
> #end quote
>
> These radar locks, missile firings and whatnot are attacks on the
> US whether you take them as such or not.
You are claiming that radar signal is an "attack
on the US"?
Seriously?
Amazing..................
Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who brought the gun'' )
Why? Because I don't have a URL doesn't make it a lie, you kook.
> >
> >
> >> > I
> >> > remember that that is something he claimed.
> >>
> >> We have already dealt with your fabrications
> >> based on your memory.
> >>
> > Liar. I didn't fabricate anything.
>
> You fabricate constantly.
>
You are lying and you know it. I wouldn't do that.
It's a radar lock, you kook. Does firing the missiles count as an
"attack"?
> Amazing..................
Mitchell Holman
the gun'' )" <tributyl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
Just back up your claim, the way you demand
others back up theirs.
>
>> >
>> >
>> >> > I
>> >> > remember that that is something he claimed.
>> >>
>> >> We have already dealt with your fabrications
>> >> based on your memory.
>> >>
>> > Liar. I didn't fabricate anything.
>>
>> You fabricate constantly.
>>
> You are lying and you know it. I wouldn't do that.
So back up your claim that Bundy moved to Florida
so he could get executed.
Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who brought the gun'' )
I don't demand that people have URLs for everything they say.
That's what you do.
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > remember that that is something he claimed.
> >> >>
> >> >> We have already dealt with your fabrications
> >> >> based on your memory.
> >> >>
> >> > Liar. I didn't fabricate anything.
> >>
> >> You fabricate constantly.
> >>
> > You are lying and you know it. I wouldn't do that.
>
> So back up your claim that Bundy moved to Florida
> so he could get executed.
>
I remember him saying that. It's not important to proving my views
on the general subject. If anything, it's evidence for the death
penalty being the opposite of deterrence. Of course I didn't claim
that the current death penalty was a deterrence, but that seems to
be the strawman I've got to defend.