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Come On "Tax Cheat" Mitt...Pretty Please...How about showing us just FIVE years of tax returns?

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Too_Many_Tools

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Aug 19, 2012, 8:30:57 AM8/19/12
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Laugh...laugh..laugh...

Just five little years of tax returns...what would it hurt?

Get the feeling that Obama knows exactly what Romney is hiding?

Of course he does.

Romney is SO SCREWED.

And like a good little crooked conservative, he did it to himself.

Laugh..laugh..laugh..

TMT

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-tells-romney-release-five-years-tax-returns-133110779.html

Obama tells Romney: release five years of tax returns
AFP – Fri, Aug 17,

President Barack Obama's re-election team made rival Mitt Romney a
surprise offer on Friday: release five years worth of your private tax
returns and we will stop talking about the other five.

The Republican's response? No -- but thanks for the note.

Obama's challenger, a multimillionaire former private equity baron,
has been lambasted by Democrats for refusing to release a decade's
worth of his personal tax returns from before 2010.

"Governor Romney apparently fears that the more he offers, the more
our campaign will demand that he provide," Obama's campaign manager
Jim Messina wrote in a letter to his counterpart, Matt Rhoades.

"So I am prepared to provide assurances on just that point," he
promised.

"If the Governor will release five years of returns, I commit in turn
that we will not criticize him for not releasing more -- neither in
ads nor in other public communications or commentary for the rest of
the campaign."

Rhoades rejected the offer in a casually worded email that began: "Hey
Jim, thanks for the note."

"It is clear that President Obama wants nothing more than to talk
about Governor Romney's tax returns instead of the issues that matter
to voters, like putting Americans back to work, fixing the economy and
reining in spending.

"If Governor Romney's tax returns are the core message of your
campaign, there will be ample time for President Obama to discuss them
over the next 81 days," he added.

Rhoades said Romney would lay out his plans for the public health
insurance program for seniors known as Medicare, welfare and the "23
million Americans struggling to find work in the Obama economy."

The email was signed off with "See you in Denver," a reference to the
first debate between the two contenders at the University of Denver on
October 3.

Describing Obama's offer as "surely not unreasonable," Messina said a
five-year disclosure would help the clear up outstanding questions
about Romney's tax history, including the range in the effective rates
he paid.

"Other presidential candidates have released more, including the
governor's father who provided 12 years of returns," Messina noted.
Romney's father George Romney unsuccessfully ran for president in
1968.

The release of Messina's letter comes a day after Romney offered his
fullest explanation to date about his tax status, saying he paid at
least 13 percent a year over the past decade, a much smaller
proportion than most US wage-earners.

But Obama's campaign appeared less than impressed, demanding proof.

Romney paid an effective tax rate of 13.9 percent in 2010, according
to returns he has released, as his income from investments was taxed
as a capital gain rather than under the higher rates applied for
salaried income.

Observers saw Messina's letter as a way to fuel the controversy and
keep it in the headlines.

David Gregory, political journalist and moderator with broadcaster
NBC, called the move "total gamesmanship, an opportunity to keep this
alive."

Harold Burton

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Aug 19, 2012, 9:12:30 AM8/19/12
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In article
<33c0c0c5-edc0-4d14...@o3g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Laugh...laugh..laugh...
>
> Just five little years of grade transcripts...what would it hurt?
>
> Get the feeling that Obama knows exactly what he is hiding?
>
> Of course he does.
>
> Obama is SO SCREWED.
>
> And like a good little crooked DemcocRAT, he did it to himself.
>
> Laugh..laugh..laugh..

Indeed.

Too_Many_Fools

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Aug 19, 2012, 9:17:32 AM8/19/12
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"I'm Going To Kill The President"
It's OK, this is from 2003…
http://www.salon.com/2003/10/29/president_3/

Laugh..laugh..laugh...

On Aug 19, 8:30 am, An_Asshole<too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Laugh...laugh..laugh...
>
> Just five little years of tax returns...what would it hurt?
>
> Get the feeling that Obama knows exactly what Romney is hiding?
>
> Of course he does.
>
> Romney is SO SCREWED.
>
> And like a good little crooked conservative, he did it to himself.
>
> Laugh..laugh..laugh..
>
> TMT
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/obama-tells-romney-release-five-years-tax-retur...

Neolibertarian

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Aug 19, 2012, 10:36:33 AM8/19/12
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> Laugh...laugh..laugh...
>
> Just five little years of tax returns...what would it hurt?
>
> Get the feeling that Obama knows exactly what Romney is hiding?
>
> Of course he does.
>
> Romney is SO SCREWED.
>
> And like a good little crooked conservative, he did it to himself.
>
> Laugh..laugh..laugh..

Let's summarize the Obama position, shall we?

Currently, the U3 unemployment rate is 8.3%, and the U6 unemployment
rate is 15%. There are over 13 million unemployed Americans. A record
number of people have applied for Social Security disability and food
stamps as more and more give up trying to find gainful employment.

$800 billion was tacked onto Bush's 2009 budget, laughingly referred to
as a "stimulus" bill. Since then, even while still under a decisive
Democrat majority, not a single Democrat or Republican in Congress has
voted for an Obama budget. President Obama has never subsequently even
attempted to negotiate or resubmit.

As a result, government financing has been on "autopilot" throughout his
administration. This has served to raise the debt by $5.3 trillion in
just 4 years.

Obama and the Democrat majority passed the Affordable Care Act over the
voiced objections of about 60% of the American electorate. President
Obama promised that the Act would include something less than a $ 1
trillion in new spending. One of the ways the Democrats achieved this
was to take $500 billion out of already bankrupt Medicare, and then
applied it to new spending in the ACA. True to historical Congressional
practice, this money was counted twice--which brought the total for the
ACA at under $1 trillion. Recently, the CBO tells us this number was
actually $741 billion, instead of $500 billion. The actual total will
undoubtedly climb higher.

Either way, FICA deductions stopped paying for Medicare and Social
Security years ago. Rather than attempt to save the programs and raising
the FICA deductions, President Obama instead REDUCED them.

Hunh?

Federal leases for energy exploration and drilling are at an all time
low.

The President, in reaction to the BP oil spill, suspended indefinitely
new drilling in the Gulf, putting thousands out of work.

The only reason energy prices aren't far higher than they already are is
because the Gas and Oil Boom in Montana and the Dakotas is occurring on
private lands.

With the probability of creating 10's of thousands of high paying jobs,
President Obama has delayed construction of the Keystone Pipeline until
next year.

The Middle East appears to be overrun by Salafist Extremists. Egypt,
Libya, Yemen, all hopeless gone. Syria is collapsing. Afghanistan is
slipping through our fingers. Iraq seems under attack by extremists and
terrorists once again.

The one insurrection there that might have been beneficial to the
interests of the United States was the one which sparked all the rest:
the Green Revolution in Iran. Even while innocents were brutally killed
and their slaying displayed on YouTube, the Obama administration refused
to utter even a mild word of disapproval.

Obama ordered the assassination of Osama bin Laden, which succeeded.
Judging by records recovered from the bin Laden compound, Osama was a
completely irrelevant figure in the Global War on Terror, with no
connections or influence with any terrorist group anywhere in the world.

This is the Obama Position.

And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
tax returns?

Right. Now pull the other one.

--
Neolibertarian

"Global Warming: It ain't the heat, it's the stupidity."

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 19, 2012, 10:39:00 AM8/19/12
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>Neolibertarian <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
>tax returns?

If it takes the spotlight off of Holder's refusal to provide Congress
with Fast and Furious documents, hell yes! ;>

deep

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Aug 19, 2012, 11:21:39 AM8/19/12
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
<cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:


>And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
>tax returns?

His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
and that he is, in fact, the corrupt and greed businessman and tax
cheet that he seems to be. So it's fine with me that he won't release
his tax records. Means millions of moderates and independents will
return to Obama because they will know Romney can't be trusted.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 19, 2012, 11:23:51 AM8/19/12
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>deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
><cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
>>tax returns?
>
>His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,

You're lying. I will add this to your list later.

>and that he is, in fact, the corrupt and greed businessman and tax
>cheet that he seems to be. So it's fine with me that he won't release
>his tax records. Means millions of moderates and independents will
>return to Obama because they will know Romney can't be trusted.

[chuckle]

Mick Mahan

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Aug 19, 2012, 11:36:54 AM8/19/12
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"deep" wrote in message news:711238pnqrgga652m...@4ax.com...

On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
<cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:


>And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
>tax returns?

His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,

>^^^^^

Post YOUR " PERSONAL" history on line, you freaky rat retard. :)
TAXES PAID is not a national security issue, as THOSE "Documents" can all
be fudged and don't mean a thing!
Like the "Watergate Tapes", Holder had "THE DOCUMENTS", stopped and
destroyed by Obama... and are now DESTROYED!

Where are Obama's tax records from 1990?

Even I have mine from 1974!





pyotr filipivich

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Aug 19, 2012, 1:18:16 PM8/19/12
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Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@yahoo.com> on Sun, 19 Aug 2012
08:23:51 -0700 typed in misc.survivalism the following:
>>deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>
>>On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
>><cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
>>>tax returns?
>>
>>His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
>
>You're lying. I will add this to your list later.

that Deep dud hasn't revealed his arrest record merely proves that
he (deep dudu), like Harry Reid, has something to hide. Not saying
he's a pederast - that's the rumor about Harry Reid - but well, that
does raise the question of what is Dudu hiding?

The question "Who cares?" is also raised, with more interest.
--
pyotr filipivich
Most journalists these days couldn't investigate a missing chocolate cake
at a pre-school without a Democrat office holder telling them what to look for,
where, and why it is Geroge Bush's fault.

deep

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Aug 19, 2012, 1:32:56 PM8/19/12
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:18:16 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@yahoo.com> on Sun, 19 Aug 2012
>08:23:51 -0700 typed in misc.survivalism the following:
>>>deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>
>>>On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>><cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
>>>>tax returns?
>>>
>>>His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
>>
>>You're lying. I will add this to your list later.
>
> that Deep dud hasn't revealed his arrest record merely proves that
>he (deep dudu), like Harry Reid, has something to hide. Not saying
>he's a pederast - that's the rumor about Harry Reid - but well, that
>does raise the question of what is Dudu hiding?

Am I running for President?

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 19, 2012, 1:40:33 PM8/19/12
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>pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@yahoo.com> on Sun, 19 Aug 2012
>08:23:51 -0700 typed in misc.survivalism the following:
>>>deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>
>>>On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>><cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
>>>>tax returns?
>>>
>>>His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
>>
>>You're lying. I will add this to your list later.
>
> that Deep dud hasn't revealed his arrest record merely proves that
>he (deep dudu), like Harry Reid, has something to hide. Not saying
>he's a pederast - that's the rumor about Harry Reid - but well, that
>does raise the question of what is Dudu hiding?

Why *is* Dudu hiding his criminal record? He's not required to reveal
it, but the fact that he HAS NOT certainly "proves" he has one.

In the interests of open posting, I hereby release my criminal records
for all to see:

NAME: SCHADENFREUDE, KLAUS
CRIMINAL RECORDS: NONE
ARREST RECORDS: NONE
INCARCERATION RECORDS: NONE

Anyone who would like to see the original document can send me $25 to
cover copying, postage and handling.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 19, 2012, 1:43:22 PM8/19/12
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>deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:18:16 -0700, pyotr filipivich
><ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@yahoo.com> on Sun, 19 Aug 2012
>>08:23:51 -0700 typed in misc.survivalism the following:
>>>>deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>>><cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
>>>>>tax returns?
>>>>
>>>>His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
>>>
>>>You're lying. I will add this to your list later.
>>
>> that Deep dud hasn't revealed his arrest record merely proves that
>>he (deep dudu), like Harry Reid, has something to hide. Not saying
>>he's a pederast - that's the rumor about Harry Reid - but well, that
>>does raise the question of what is Dudu hiding?
>
>Am I running for President?

Fortunately, no. The rush of people running to work on the campaign of
your opponent would destroy the nation's transportation system.

Q. Is Romney required to release tax records?
A. No

Q. Does his refusal to release his tax records prove ANYTHING?
A. No.

Q. If you think it DOES prove something, does YOUR refusal to release
your criminal record prove you are a criminal?
A. Yes.

Gray Guest

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Aug 19, 2012, 1:54:14 PM8/19/12
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Neolibertarian <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote in news:k0qtlj$er4$1@dont-
email.me:
Brilliantly stated! I'm making a copy which I may make additions and
subtractions to for future use in this and other venues and for which I will
credit you for the original.

Bloody well done.

--
Refusenik #1

Gray Guest

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Aug 19, 2012, 1:56:26 PM8/19/12
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deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in news:711238pnqrgga652mcljucemk6tljoi7jq@
4ax.com:
Ja und vat is your real hiztory?

--
Refusenik #1

Neolibertarian

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Aug 19, 2012, 2:04:00 PM8/19/12
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In article <711238pnqrgga652m...@4ax.com>,
deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> >And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
> >tax returns?
>
> His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,

He hasn't anything to hide, and he's got nothing he might need to prove
to you.

You voted for the Obama with sealed school transcripts, no medical
history, and even the official records during his time in the Illinois
Senate have been locked away by the Democrat-led Illinois legislature.

And I'm with YOU on this.

I could care less about his lies and deceptions concerning his
background. Let him keep all of that hidden for as long as he lives.

That part of his resume was never important, and it's even less
important today.

Very few people will be voting for Romney November 6th. But I think
about 60% of the electorate will be voting to get the Obama out of
office.

We either take him away from the instrumentalities of the United States
Government, or we'll deserve what comes next.

> and that he is, in fact, the corrupt and greed businessman and tax
> cheet that he seems to be. So it's fine with me that he won't release
> his tax records. Means millions of moderates and independents will
> return to Obama because they will know Romney can't be trusted.

The moderates and independents want their jobs, security and futures,
just like everyone else not already living in the abject despair of the
dole.

Scout

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Aug 19, 2012, 2:37:07 PM8/19/12
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"deep" <de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
news:711238pnqrgga652m...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
>>tax returns?
>
> His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
> and that he is, in fact, the corrupt and greed businessman and tax
> cheet that he seems to be.

Then why can't the IRS find it?

After all they have ALL of his tax returns.

If he did anything illegal, then the IRS should be all over it.

Right?



deep

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Aug 19, 2012, 2:38:11 PM8/19/12
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:04:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
<cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>In article <711238pnqrgga652m...@4ax.com>,
> deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
>> >tax returns?
>>
>> His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
>
>He hasn't anything to hide, and he's got nothing he might need to prove
>to you.

How do you knnow?

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 19, 2012, 2:41:45 PM8/19/12
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>deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

Same question back atcha, you ignorant moron.

What's he hiding?

deep

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Aug 19, 2012, 3:11:46 PM8/19/12
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I know what Romney's hiding. He's hiding cheating on his taxes. It
must be bad or else he wouldn't be committing political suicide by
refusing to reveal his records.

Frank

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Aug 19, 2012, 3:21:33 PM8/19/12
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Yup, the IRS was too stupid to see that he cheated on his taxes ;)

Scout

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Aug 19, 2012, 3:24:25 PM8/19/12
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"deep" <de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
news:0ie238lir2q8h80bk...@4ax.com...
So why couldn't the IRS find his cheating?

I mean you are aware that they have EVERY ONE of his returns, right?


RogerN

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Aug 19, 2012, 3:52:41 PM8/19/12
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#youmightbealiberal If you think we should give guns to drug dealers and
take them from American Citizens.

#youmightbealiberal If you want to be more like Europe and less like the
founding fathers.

#youmightbealiberal If you are genetically incapable of staying on point
when discussing politics.

#youmightbealiberal If you think gun control keeps criminals from getting
guns.

#youmightbealiberal If you think Bob the Builder’s tagline is a great
campaign theme

#youmightbealiberal If you think the Bush deficits justify Obama’s
quadrupling them.

#youmightbealiberal If you still think it was a good idea to elect a first
term Senator w/ no executive experience & a radical past

#youmightbealiberal If you’ve never questioned anything your college
professor told you.

#youmightbealiberal If you know what’s best for everyone else.

#youmightbealiberal If you are not concerned with the type of people Obama
surrounds himself with.

#youmightbealiberal If you think socialism is a viable economic system.

#youmightbealiberal If you think Republicans had enough votes to be
obstructionists.

#youmightbealiberal If you’re one of the two dozen people watching MSNBC.

#youmightbealiberal If you think the Daily Show is news.

#youmightbealiberal If you refer to Hugo Chavez as ‘democratically elected’

#youmightbealiberal If you think you can put some chocolate sprinkles on a
turd of #hcr bill and make it taste good.


Mick Mahan

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Aug 19, 2012, 3:55:52 PM8/19/12
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"deep" wrote in message news:0ie238lir2q8h80bk...@4ax.com...
>^^^

How does Doo Doo "know?", when HE is a known and proven liar?


Too_Many_Tools

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Aug 19, 2012, 4:23:39 PM8/19/12
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On Aug 19, 7:30 am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Laugh...laugh..laugh...
>
> Just five little years of tax returns...what would it hurt?
>
> Get the feeling that Obama knows exactly what Romney is hiding?
>
> Of course he does.
>
> Romney is SO SCREWED.
>
> And like a good little crooked conservative, he did it to himself.
>
> Laugh..laugh..laugh..
>
> TMT
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/obama-tells-romney-release-five-years-tax-retur...
Laugh..laugh..laugh...

And all the conservatives have are excuses, excuses, excuses as to why
poor little "Tax Cheat" Mitt shouldn't release his tax returns...even
when it means that the Republicans will LOSE the election.

I suspose they are practicing for after election when they will have
to explain how they LOST the election.

Laugh..laugh..laugh..

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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Aug 19, 2012, 4:26:16 PM8/19/12
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On Aug 19, 12:32 pm, "dcas...@krl.org" <dcas...@krl.org> wrote:
> On Aug 19, 12:16 pm, Ignoramus3194 <ignoramus3...@NOSPAM.3194.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Dan, it would be interesting to see how things play out. I will keep
> > watching.
>
> > i
>
> I tend to snooze a lot, but will try to wake up in about Oct.  Always
> interesting to see how things really turn out.
>
> I sure wish you were closer, but my wife is probably glad you are
> not.  She is not thrilled when I bring home some heavy rusty steel
> objects.  The last thing was a 80 lb vise.  She has not spotted it and
> I hope to get it really clean and painted before she sees it.  It is a
> model 985 as shown at this web site.
>
> http://www.dayid.org/mediawiki/index.php/Charles_Parker_Vise  Maybe I
> should reweigh it.  The web site says that model weighs 107 lbs.  The
> scrap yard only charged me for 80 lbs.
>
> Dan

So you cheated the yard...like Romney would?

Or are you going to go back and pay the difference?

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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Aug 19, 2012, 4:27:56 PM8/19/12
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On Aug 19, 2:11 pm, deep <d...@dudu.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:41:45 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
>
>
>
>
>
> <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>deep <d...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>
> >>On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:04:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
> >><cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>In article <711238pnqrgga652mcljucemk6tljoi...@4ax.com>,
> >>> deep <d...@dudu.org> wrote:
>
> >>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
> >>>> <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> >And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
> >>>> >tax returns?
>
> >>>> His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
>
> >>>He hasn't anything to hide, and he's got nothing he might need to prove
> >>>to you.
>
> >>How do you knnow?
>
> >Same question back atcha, you ignorant moron.
>
> >What's he hiding?
>
> I know what Romney's hiding.  He's hiding cheating on his taxes.  It
> must be bad or else he wouldn't be committing political suicide by
> refusing to reveal his records.  - Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I agree.

Prove us wrong.

Laugh..laugh..laugh..

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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Aug 19, 2012, 4:20:13 PM8/19/12
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On Aug 19, 9:36 am, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <33c0c0c5-edc0-4d14-9b37-19c370c66...@o3g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
Let's summarize the Romney position, shall we?

Bent over, fisting himself with his tax returns, without any lube.

And "Lying" Ryan just jumped on to help double fist the effort.

This IS the Romney Position.

Will they charging for the private showing at the Republican
Convention?


And what we're REALLY concerned about ARE Mitt Romney's 5 years worth
(aka ancient to Republicans) income tax returns?

So why is Mitt "No Tax" Romney so worried about releasing his tax
returns..doesn't he want to be President?

About that "ancient"...are you telling us that Tax Cheat" Mitt hasn't
paid taxes in the last few years?

Maybe someone better update Obama on that...

Laugh..laugh..laugh...

TMT


"Global Conservative Cull: It ain't the heat, it's their stupidity."



Too_Many_Tools

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#youareaconservative If you think Americans will vote for a
conservative tax cheat...they won't.

TMT

BeamMeUpScotty

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Aug 19, 2012, 4:37:40 PM8/19/12
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Obama had to hire 16,000 IRS agents, because 9 out of 10 of them can't
tie their own shoes.


Government employment has become a form of welfare.






Scout

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"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Poor TMT, and for that matter Dudu. We don't have to prove you're wrong. You
have to prove you're right.

So show us that Romney is cheating on his taxes.

The IRS has his returns, they haven't seen any cheating.

So what makes you think that either you or Dudu know better?


BeamMeUpScotty

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Aug 19, 2012, 5:04:18 PM8/19/12
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Charlie Rangel is a Democrat tax cheat, as are so many others.... But
they are OK and Romney that pays his taxes is somehow the problem?

Only a Liberal could come to that conclusion.



--

*Rumination*
#56 - You have a right to your own opinions, but NOT to your own facts.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 19, 2012, 5:05:53 PM8/19/12
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>deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:41:45 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
><klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>
>>>On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:04:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>><cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <711238pnqrgga652m...@4ax.com>,
>>>> deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>>>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
>>>>> >tax returns?
>>>>>
>>>>> His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
>>>>
>>>>He hasn't anything to hide, and he's got nothing he might need to prove
>>>>to you.
>>>
>>>How do you knnow?
>>
>>Same question back atcha, you ignorant moron.
>>
>>What's he hiding?
>
>I know what Romney's hiding. He's hiding cheating on his taxes.

Prove it.

> It must be bad

You just SAID he was cheating on his taxes. You KNOW the IRS gives
rewards, right? When are you applying for yours?

You could donate it to the Brady Center.


>or else he wouldn't be committing political suicide by
>refusing to reveal his records.

[chuckle]

Nobody's talking about it any more.

Except you losers.

Cite your proof.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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>Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>On Aug 19, 2:11 pm, deep <d...@dudu.org> wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:41:45 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude

>> I know what Romney's hiding.  He's hiding cheating on his taxes.  It
>> must be bad or else he wouldn't be committing political suicide by
>> refusing to reveal his records.  - Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>I agree.
>
>Prove us wrong.

You're a child molester.

Prove me wrong.

deep

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That's the whole problem for Romney. It's legal. And it will prove
him part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Harold Burton

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Harold Burton

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Aug 19, 2012, 5:34:50 PM8/19/12
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In article <k0rjlk$nlb$1...@dont-email.me>,
Actually the questions is "what makes you think THEY think at all", I've
yet to see a posting of theirs that would indicate they do.


And . . . if they really KNOW that Romney is a tax cheat why don't they
rat him out to the IRS. The IRS pay rats 15 to 30% these days? That
would be a lot of money. BTW dudu and Drools, it's form 3949-A you want.


Laugh . . . laugh . . . laugh.

Harold Burton

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Aug 19, 2012, 5:42:35 PM8/19/12
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In article <dgl238tmru7auk2o3...@4ax.com>,
So why do your fellow idiot leftards keep claiming he's a tax cheat.

Leftard rule #1: lie, lie again, then lie about lying.



> And it will prove him part of the problem . . .


So you're now claiming that Mitt was secretly a member of Congress and
secretly voted to pass the current tax code.


Gawd, leftards are stupid.



laugh . . . laugh . . . laugh.

BeamMeUpScotty

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Aug 19, 2012, 5:44:26 PM8/19/12
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>> On Aug 19, 2:11 pm, deep <d...@dudu.org> wrote:

>
>>> I know what Romney's hiding. He's hiding cheating on his taxes. It
>>> must be bad or else he wouldn't be committing political suicide by
>>> refusing to reveal his records. - Hide quoted text -
>>>

If Romney can hide his tax cheating from 16,000 NEW IRS agents, I don't
just want to vote for him I want to hire him as a consultant for my tax
preparers.....

Scout

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Aug 19, 2012, 6:02:28 PM8/19/12
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"Harold Burton" <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hal.i.burton-D762...@news.newsguy.com...
They don't. Which is why TMT is regularly in my twit filter, and Dudu often
is.


> And . . . if they really KNOW that Romney is a tax cheat why don't they
> rat him out to the IRS. The IRS pay rats 15 to 30% these days? That
> would be a lot of money. BTW dudu and Drools, it's form 3949-A you want.

Well first they would have to find someone who could fill it out for them.


Scout

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"deep" <de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
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If it's legal then he isn't cheating.

Which means you lied about him cheating.

>And it will prove
> him part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Not at all, even SCOTUS has ruled that no one has any obligation to pay more
tax than the law requires.

I will simply note people have proposed an alternative system, which you
have rejected.


Harold Burton

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Aug 19, 2012, 6:45:08 PM8/19/12
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In article <k0rnuu$h81$1...@dont-email.me>,
Leftard rule #1: Lie, lie again, then lie about lying.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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>deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>>>> I know what Romney's hiding. He's hiding cheating on his taxes. It
>>>> must be bad or else he wouldn't be committing political suicide by
>>>> refusing to reveal his records. - Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>> I agree.
>>>
>>> Prove us wrong.
>>
>>Poor TMT, and for that matter Dudu. We don't have to prove you're wrong. You
>>have to prove you're right.
>>
>>So show us that Romney is cheating on his taxes.
>>
>>The IRS has his returns, they haven't seen any cheating.
>>
>>So what makes you think that either you or Dudu know better?
>>
>That's the whole problem for Romney. It's legal. And it will prove
>him part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Backing off from your whole "I know he's cheating" bullshit already?

usually you carry on for several days. Are you not feeling well?

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 19, 2012, 7:58:21 PM8/19/12
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>Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
Typical leftist bullshit. "If I can't do it, you shouldn't be able to
do it either."

See? Now we're all "equal"!!!!

ROFLMAO

Oglethorpe

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Aug 20, 2012, 12:01:46 AM8/20/12
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"Mick Mahan" <PatBe...@bass.gov> wrote in message
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Romney's revealed his records, dipshit.


deep

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You dumbass rightard cocksuckers just don't get it. The wealthy have
made cheating on their taxes legal with loopholes. And regular
Americans are sick of it. Besides, you don't know that the IRS hasn't
brought charges against Romney for tax evasion. Maybe that's what it
is he is trying to hide.

Harold Burton

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Aug 19, 2012, 10:30:25 PM8/19/12
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In article <rd73381o9sb3kgl8r...@4ax.com>,
Congress did that, Democrat as well as Republican, and you're right most
Congresscritters are wealthy.

Take Hary Reid, for instance:

<http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/12498-where-does-harr
y-reid%E2%80%99s-wealth-come-from>


But since Romney was never a member of Congress he had nothing to do
with all those loopholes you're whining about. Whine at the likes of
Harry Reid.



Leftards, batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.

Scout

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Aug 19, 2012, 10:58:02 PM8/19/12
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"deep" <de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
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If it's legal then it's not cheating.

Maybe you should talk to Congress about closing these 'loopholes".

Oh, but then according to you a "loophole" is anything you disagree with
even when it's specifically stated as legal in the law.

So maybe that's not going to work since I doubt Congress cares about your
opinion.

> And regular
> Americans are sick of it.

As if you would know what regular Americans feel.

> Besides, you don't know that the IRS hasn't
> brought charges against Romney for tax evasion.

That's a matter of public record and I'm that if the IRS had an indictment
against him the media would be all over it.

Looks like your just trying to scramble to find some excuse to justify your
BS claims.

> Maybe that's what it
> is he is trying to hide.

Then you don't need his returns you simply need to check for an indictment
against him which would be a matter of public record.

So where is it?


Message has been deleted

Gray Guest

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Aug 20, 2012, 12:18:28 AM8/20/12
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deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in
news:0ie238lir2q8h80bk...@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:41:45 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
><klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>
>>>On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:04:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>><cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <711238pnqrgga652m...@4ax.com>,
>>>> deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>>>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient
>>>>> >income tax returns?
>>>>>
>>>>> His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to
>>>>> hide,
>>>>
>>>>He hasn't anything to hide, and he's got nothing he might need to
>>>>prove to you.
>>>
>>>How do you knnow?
>>
>>Same question back atcha, you ignorant moron.
>>
>>What's he hiding?
>
> I know what Romney's hiding. He's hiding cheating on his taxes. It
> must be bad or else he wouldn't be committing political suicide by
> refusing to reveal his records.
>

So you work for the IRS? What's the deal, why didn't you arrest him, then?

That stupid nigger AG can't seem to find him either.

--
Refusenik #1

Neolibertarian

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Aug 20, 2012, 1:32:02 AM8/20/12
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In article
<8723569d-a95a-4505...@p8g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
No, we're not. And you know as well as I, neither the Obama Campaign,
nor you would be satisfied with 5. With 10. Or 20.

There is no compelling reason to even offer up one year of tax returns.
It's a stupid, pointless practice to offer up any.

I don't care about what Obama has been hiding with his medical records,
his school records, or his records during his time in the Illinois
Senate.

You don't need a weatherman to tell you which way the wind blows.

I knew who he was from the outset. He made it plain enough.
>
> So why is Mitt "No Tax" Romney so worried about releasing his tax
> returns..doesn't he want to be President?
>
> About that "ancient"...are you telling us that Tax Cheat" Mitt hasn't
> paid taxes in the last few years?

You're not interested in his returns from 2003-2011, dummy. I know you
THINK you are, but that's not what your think-masters have been claiming.
>
> Maybe someone better update Obama on that...
>
> Laugh..laugh..laugh...

Tee hee!

>
> "Global Conservative Cull: It ain't the heat, it's their stupidity."

Sorry, it just doesn't sing.

Neolibertarian

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Aug 20, 2012, 1:35:00 AM8/20/12
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In article <4jc238p27p2rpp2m6...@4ax.com>,
deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:04:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <711238pnqrgga652m...@4ax.com>,
> > deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
> >> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
> >> >tax returns?
> >>
> >> His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
> >
> >He hasn't anything to hide, and he's got nothing he might need to prove
> >to you.
>
> How do you knnow?

Because he has the one and only absolutely essential qualification for
the Presidency in this 2012 election:

He's not Barack Obama.

Neolibertarian

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Aug 20, 2012, 1:54:59 AM8/20/12
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In article <0ie238lir2q8h80bk...@4ax.com>,
deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:41:45 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
> <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >
> >>On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:04:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
> >><cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>In article <711238pnqrgga652m...@4ax.com>,
> >>> deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
> >>>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
> >>>> >tax returns?
> >>>>
> >>>> His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
> >>>
> >>>He hasn't anything to hide, and he's got nothing he might need to prove
> >>>to you.
> >>
> >>How do you knnow?
> >
> >Same question back atcha, you ignorant moron.
> >
> >What's he hiding?
>
> I know what Romney's hiding. He's hiding cheating on his taxes. It
> must be bad or else he wouldn't be committing political suicide by
> refusing to reveal his records.

This may come as a surprise to you, but the IRS pretty much
automatically audits anyone making over $10 million a year.

It pays to do so. Millionaires are forced into submitting telephone book
sized returns, and they're usually filed quarterly. It's pretty easy to
find questionable entries on ANYONE's returns from that tax bracket.

If we'd do without automatic deductions, and you had to file quarterly,
you'd be angry as hell at the US Revenue Codes, and totally in the
Romney camp.

There is no way, of course, to have a fair income tax rate. They've been
tinkering with this one for 99 years. Every damned session of Congress
they change, add and/or subtract from the code. No body but a tax lawyer
really understands the codes, and we're not sure even they do completely.

The top income rates have gone from a low of 25%, to a high of 91%. Low
income rates have gone from a high of about 25% to the ridiculous low of
today, where about 47% of lowest wage earners pay no income tax
whatsoever. Due to the ludicrous EIC, many of these wage earners
actually have a negative tax rate.

There is no way to levy income taxes in a fair and equitable manner.
After 99 years, the jury is in: it can't be done--and believe me they've
TRIED.

Stop trying to do what obviously can't be done. Stop the crazy, self
destructive practice of taxing income.

There are many much better ways of raising revenue for your government.

And stop worrying your pretty head about some candidate's income tax
returns.

You don't need them. And you don't need Obama's college transcripts, or
even his long form birth certificate.

You don't need any of that to see how clearly the Obama Administration
has cavalierly overseen a marked decline in every aspect of American
life.

They are cavalierly distracting your attention so that you won't
remember what a disaster the last four years have been for you.

That you fall for it so eagerly just encourages your think-masters to
conclude all Americans as stupid and gullible as you.

Gunner Asch

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Aug 20, 2012, 2:32:18 AM8/20/12
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 00:35:00 -0500, Neolibertarian <cogn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <4jc238p27p2rpp2m6...@4ax.com>,
> deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:04:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <711238pnqrgga652m...@4ax.com>,
>> > deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
>> >> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
>> >> >tax returns?
>> >>
>> >> His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
>> >
>> >He hasn't anything to hide, and he's got nothing he might need to prove
>> >to you.
>>
>> How do you knnow?
>
>Because he has the one and only absolutely essential qualification for
>the Presidency in this 2012 election:
>
>He's not Barack Obama.

Indeed!


--
"I was eating breakfast with my 13-year-old granddaughter
and I asked her, "What day is the 20th of February?"

She said "It's President's Day!"
(She is a smart kid.)
I asked "What does President's Day mean?"
I was waiting for something about Washington or Lincoln .... etc.
She replied, "President's Day is when President Obama steps out
of the White House, and if he sees his shadow we have
one more year of unemployment."
You know, it hurts when hot coffee spurts out your nose..."


Too_Many_Tools

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Aug 20, 2012, 2:54:45 AM8/20/12
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On Aug 20, 12:32 am, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <8723569d-a95a-4505-8a36-5f7fc040d...@p8g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
> "Global Warming: It ain't the heat, it's the stupidity."- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Laugh...laugh..laugh..

All your excuses aren't going to help "Tax Cheat" Romney.

He is SO SCREWED.

And he did it to himself.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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Aug 20, 2012, 2:57:25 AM8/20/12
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On Aug 20, 12:54 am, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <0ie238lir2q8h80bk3eip56m51812v6...@4ax.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
>  deep <d...@dudu.org> wrote:
> > On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:41:45 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
> > <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >>deep <d...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>
> > >>On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:04:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
> "Global Warming: It ain't the heat, it's the stupidity."- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yawn...more excuses but it doesn't change the fact that "Tax Cheat"
Mitt hasn't released his tax returns.

No returns...no votes.

Tough shit for Romney.

Laugh..laugh..laugh..

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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Aug 20, 2012, 2:55:42 AM8/20/12
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On Aug 20, 12:35 am, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <4jc238p27p2rpp2m66t727u1drgf9ua...@4ax.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
>  deep <d...@dudu.org> wrote:
> > On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:04:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
> > > deep <d...@dudu.org> wrote:
>
> > >> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
> > >> <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
> > >> >tax returns?
>
> > >> His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
>
> > >He hasn't anything to hide, and he's got nothing he might need to prove
> > >to you.
>
> > How do you knnow?
>
> Because he has the one and only absolutely essential qualification for
> the Presidency in this 2012 election:
>
> He's not Barack Obama.
>
> --
> Neolibertarian
>
> "Global Warming: It ain't the heat, it's the stupidity."- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL...remember that when Obama is reelected.

He wasn't Barack Obama.

TMT

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 20, 2012, 6:04:38 AM8/20/12
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>deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>You dumbass rightard cocksuckers just don't get it. The wealthy have
>made cheating on their taxes legal with loopholes.

Um, no, you ignorant dumb ass. Congress makes tax code. Using the tax
code Congress makes isn't "cheating."

>And regular
>Americans are sick of it.

Regular Americans use the SAME tax code as Romney.


> Besides, you don't know that the IRS hasn't
>brought charges against Romney for tax evasion. Maybe that's what it
>is he is trying to hide.

Right. Or maybe you're just insane.

I think that's a more likely prospect.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 20, 2012, 6:41:52 AM8/20/12
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>Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>Yawn...more excuses but it doesn't change the fact that "Tax Cheat"
>Mitt hasn't released his tax returns.

Doesn't change the fact that we're still enjoying, you, Pelosi, and
Reid lying about it.

Where's the proof?

Jeff M

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Aug 20, 2012, 7:39:09 AM8/20/12
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No they don't. Only a small percentage of even high income earners get
audited annually. Moreover, the concerns voters have, or information
Romney wants to conceal, may not be the sort of illegality the IRS is
concerned with. Foremost among these is simply how little Romney
legally had to pay in taxes.


Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 20, 2012, 7:42:26 AM8/20/12
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>Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
Not only are your taxes higher, you are chances of being audited are 1
in 20 if you earn $100,000 or more.

"Higher income earners are more likely to be audited because there is
more tax money at stake," Tyson said. "The IRS is a business, they
have employees and they do not have time to let them audit people if
they are only going to earn $2 worth of tax."

Earning less money really isn't an option, but high earners should be
aware that the government is eyeing their returns very carefully. So
any temptation to tack on another $1,000 to a charitable deduction
shouldn't be indulged.

http://money.cnn.com/2005/01/31/pf/taxes/avoid_audit/index.htm

>Moreover, the concerns voters have, or information
>Romney wants to conceal, may not be the sort of illegality the IRS is
>concerned with. Foremost among these is simply how little Romney
>legally had to pay in taxes.


Which is none of your business.

deep

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Aug 20, 2012, 9:53:08 AM8/20/12
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 00:35:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
<cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>In article <4jc238p27p2rpp2m6...@4ax.com>,
> deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:04:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <711238pnqrgga652m...@4ax.com>,
>> > deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
>> >> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
>> >> >tax returns?
>> >>
>> >> His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
>> >
>> >He hasn't anything to hide, and he's got nothing he might need to prove
>> >to you.
>>
>> How do you knnow?
>
>Because he has the one and only absolutely essential qualification for
>the Presidency in this 2012 election:
>
>He's not Barack Obama.

That's pathetic. Obama is a great man. You better be careful what
you wish for. If you in any way favor Romney evenfor the absurd
reason of your hatred for Obama, then you prove you know nothing about
the Mormons. A Mormon President is the worst thing that could happen
to this country.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 20, 2012, 10:08:01 AM8/20/12
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>deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 00:35:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
><cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <4jc238p27p2rpp2m6...@4ax.com>,
>> deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:04:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >In article <711238pnqrgga652m...@4ax.com>,
>>> > deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>> >> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> >And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
>>> >> >tax returns?
>>> >>
>>> >> His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
>>> >
>>> >He hasn't anything to hide, and he's got nothing he might need to prove
>>> >to you.
>>>
>>> How do you knnow?
>>
>>Because he has the one and only absolutely essential qualification for
>>the Presidency in this 2012 election:
>>
>>He's not Barack Obama.
>
>That's pathetic. Obama is a great man.

On a good day, he's completely average and forgettable.

>You better be careful what
>you wish for. If you in any way favor Romney evenfor the absurd
>reason of your hatred for Obama, then you prove you know nothing about
>the Mormons. A Mormon President is the worst thing that could happen
>to this country.

Oh? Why is that?

George Plimpton

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Aug 20, 2012, 10:27:15 AM8/20/12
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On 8/20/2012 6:53 AM, deep wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 00:35:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <4jc238p27p2rpp2m6...@4ax.com>,
>> deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:04:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <711238pnqrgga652m...@4ax.com>,
>>>> deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>>>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
>>>>>> tax returns?
>>>>>
>>>>> His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
>>>>
>>>> He hasn't anything to hide, and he's got nothing he might need to prove
>>>> to you.
>>>
>>> How do you knnow?
>>
>> Because he has the one and only absolutely essential qualification for
>> the Presidency in this 2012 election:
>>
>> He's not Barack Obama.
>
> That's pathetic. Obama is a great man.

He's the antithesis of a great man.

George Plimpton

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Aug 20, 2012, 10:33:53 AM8/20/12
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On 8/20/2012 7:08 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>
>> On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 00:35:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <4jc238p27p2rpp2m6...@4ax.com>,
>>> deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:04:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <711238pnqrgga652m...@4ax.com>,
>>>>> deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>>>>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
>>>>>>> tax returns?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
>>>>>
>>>>> He hasn't anything to hide, and he's got nothing he might need to prove
>>>>> to you.
>>>>
>>>> How do you knnow?
>>>
>>> Because he has the one and only absolutely essential qualification for
>>> the Presidency in this 2012 election:
>>>
>>> He's not Barack Obama.
>>
>> That's pathetic. Obama is a great man.
>
> On a good day, he's completely average and forgettable.

That is exactly right. No matter the Harvard law degree and the
editorship of the law review, his career between that and somehow
flim-flamming his way into the presidency was sheer mediocrity. He was
a nullity. Nothing he did was remarkable.


>
>> You better be careful what
>> you wish for. If you in any way favor Romney evenfor the absurd
>> reason of your hatred for Obama, then you prove you know nothing about
>> the Mormons. A Mormon President is the worst thing that could happen
>> to this country.
>
> Oh? Why is that?

Skip it - it's nothing but bigotry. It's the same kind of thing people
said about John Kennedy being Catholic. Scheisskopf is simply a bigot.

BeamMeUpScotty

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Aug 20, 2012, 11:58:25 AM8/20/12
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On 8/19/2012 11:24 PM, Deucalion wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 15:21:33 -0400, Frank
> <frankperi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> On 8/19/2012 3:11 PM, deep wrote:
>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:41:45 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
>>> <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:04:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>>>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <711238pnqrgga652m...@4ax.com>,
>>>>>> deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>>>>>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
>>>>>>>> tax returns?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He hasn't anything to hide, and he's got nothing he might need to prove
>>>>>> to you.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you knnow?
>>>>
>>>> Same question back atcha, you ignorant moron.
>>>>
>>>> What's he hiding?
>>>
>>> I know what Romney's hiding. He's hiding cheating on his taxes. It
>>> must be bad or else he wouldn't be committing political suicide by
>>> refusing to reveal his records.
>>>
>>
>> Yup, the IRS was too stupid to see that he cheated on his taxes ;)
>
> The IRS is too stupid to see that a lot of people cheat on their
> taxes. :)
>


Tim Geitner
Charlie Rangel
Warren Buffet


But then they don't ban them from public office or put them in jail do
they....




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you might call them the Liberal-Socialist "MACHINE" that has created
your matrix.

BeamMeUpScotty

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Aug 20, 2012, 12:07:47 PM8/20/12
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> On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 00:35:00 -0500, Neolibertarian <cogn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <4jc238p27p2rpp2m6...@4ax.com>,
>> deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:04:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <711238pnqrgga652m...@4ax.com>,
>>>> deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>>>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
>>>>>> tax returns?
>>>>>
>>>>> His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
>>>>
>>>> He hasn't anything to hide, and he's got nothing he might need to prove
>>>> to you.
>>>
>>> How do you knnow?
>>
>> Because he has the one and only absolutely essential qualification for
>> the Presidency in this 2012 election:
>>
>> He's not Barack Obama.

We don't even know if Barak Obama "is" barak Obama.....







pyotr filipivich

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Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@yahoo.com> on Mon, 20 Aug 2012
03:41:52 -0700 typed in misc.survivalism the following:
Romney Campaign Issues:
Intelligence Leaks
$5.3 Trillion deficit in three years - a new record
Fast and Furious
15.9 Trillion National Debt - up from 10 trillion in just three
years.
Obama has no plans to save Medicare
- or Social Security
Obama's Cutting of $716 Billion from Medicare
The Worst Economic Recovery in U.S. History
GDP is at 1.5%
41 months of "recovery" and official Unemployment over 8%
46 million on Food Stamps
Highest Poverty rate in 50 years
First ever US Credit Downgrade
Diminished US Global Standing
Islamic Extremism
Record Spending
GM Losses
Joe Biden.

Obama's Campaign Issues
Mitt Romney's Tax Returns.

=====

Thanks to Michael Ramirez at the Investor Business Daily
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at a pre-school without a Democrat office holder telling them what to look for,
where, and why it is Geroge Bush's fault.

RD Sandman

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Aug 20, 2012, 12:50:13 PM8/20/12
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deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in
news:rd73381o9sb3kgl8r...@4ax.com:
Actually, Congress made those loopholes and presidents signed them into
law. I certainly hope that they read them first.....don't you?

And regular
> Americans are sick of it. Besides, you don't know that the IRS hasn't
> brought charges against Romney for tax evasion. Maybe that's what it
> is he is trying to hide.

If they had, it would be front page news and you know it.



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Any ship can be a minesweeper.......once!!


Sleep well, tonight.....

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RD Sandman

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Deucalion <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in
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> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 15:21:33 -0400, Frank
> <frankperi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>On 8/19/2012 3:11 PM, deep wrote:
>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:41:45 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
>>> <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:04:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>>>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <711238pnqrgga652m...@4ax.com>,
>>>>>> deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>>>>>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient
>>>>>>>> income tax returns?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to
>>>>>>> hide,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He hasn't anything to hide, and he's got nothing he might need to
>>>>>> prove to you.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you knnow?
>>>>
>>>> Same question back atcha, you ignorant moron.
>>>>
>>>> What's he hiding?
>>>
>>> I know what Romney's hiding. He's hiding cheating on his taxes. It
>>> must be bad or else he wouldn't be committing political suicide by
>>> refusing to reveal his records.
>>>
>>
>>Yup, the IRS was too stupid to see that he cheated on his taxes ;)
>
> The IRS is too stupid to see that a lot of people cheat on their
> taxes. :)
>

Well, it is based on the voluntary honor system.

deep

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Aug 20, 2012, 12:55:36 PM8/20/12
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Congress made those loopholes at the behest of the wealthy's
lobbyists. The rich have been tweeking our tax system to their
benefit for years. Middle class Americans who don't have their own
tax lawyers aren't capable of taking advantage of changes in the tax
code. Regular people are sick of the wealthy exploiting the system
because they don't want to pay taxes.

RD Sandman

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Aug 20, 2012, 12:56:27 PM8/20/12
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Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in
news:Gd-dnWrJwo58vK_N...@giganews.com:
Hmmmm, then obviously that wouldn't be a "sort of illegality" that the
IRS would be concerned with. That is tax policy not tax evasion.

Jeff M

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Aug 20, 2012, 1:06:27 PM8/20/12
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No, it's tax avoidance, which is something American voters need to learn
a lot more about, so they have a better idea exactly who is paying what
sort of taxes, and who really isn't. Then maybe there will be some
healthy changes in tax policy.

RD Sandman

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Aug 20, 2012, 1:28:28 PM8/20/12
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deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in news:4qq438hqu9ue7unv883jjh934qkkriuqk2@
4ax.com:

> On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 11:50:13 -0500, RD Sandman
> <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in
>>news:rd73381o9sb3kgl8r...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:45:08 -0400, Harold Burton
>>> <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <k0rnuu$h81$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>> "Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "deep" <de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:dgl238tmru7auk2o3...@4ax.com...
>>>>> > On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 16:51:48 -0400, "Scout"
>>>>> > <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> >>news:96c4b61d-a594-4d05-8252-
71c2f1...@j3g2000yqi.googlegroups.c
That doesn't matter. What matters is that Congress has passed those laws
and president have signed them into law. On whose behalf they did it is
a moot point.

The rich have been tweeking our tax system to their
> benefit for years.

See above. Of course most congresscritters fit into the wealthy class
than into the populous class so it is also in their interests. Of
course, they are the only ones with the actual power to enact laws.

Middle class Americans who don't have their own
> tax lawyers aren't capable of taking advantage of changes in the tax
> code. Regular people are sick of the wealthy exploiting the system
> because they don't want to pay taxes.

Then tell them to get off their lazy asses and get involved in politics.
Get those politicians who keep appeasing the rich out of there. Of
course, when nearly 70% of them don't really give a damn about politics
until November 1st and only 39% of them even know who the Vice President
is, don't expect much.

RD Sandman

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Aug 20, 2012, 1:31:44 PM8/20/12
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Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in news:1vydnSW9O_oK86
_NnZ2dnUV...@giganews.com:
That's one name for it, however, since it is legal and follows the laws
laid down by our Congress and Presidents, can you imagine where it needs
to be addressed?

Do you pay more taxes than is required?

which is something American voters need to learn
> a lot more about, so they have a better idea exactly who is paying what
> sort of taxes, and who really isn't. Then maybe there will be some
> healthy changes in tax policy.

Perhaps, if the American voter would get off his or her lazy ass and
learn some stuff about politics and how thing like government work, we
could do that. Instead, we have an electorate where only 39% of those
voters even know who the VP is.

Gunner

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Aug 20, 2012, 2:17:52 PM8/20/12
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:08:01 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>
>>>Because he has the one and only absolutely essential qualification for
>>>the Presidency in this 2012 election:
>>>
>>>He's not Barack Obama.
>>
>>That's pathetic. Obama is a great man.
>
>On a good day, he's completely average and forgettable.


A good day being a day with no problems with his teleprompter or VP.


One bleeding-heart type asked me in a recent interview if I did not
agree that "violence begets violence." I told him that it is my
earnest endeavor to see that it does. I would like very much to ensure
- and in some cases I have - that any man who offers violence to his
fellow citizen begets a whole lot more in return than he can enjoy.

- Jeff Cooper

BeamMeUpScotty

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Aug 20, 2012, 2:29:50 PM8/20/12
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On 8/20/2012 2:17 PM, Gunner wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:08:01 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
> <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> Because he has the one and only absolutely essential qualification for
>>>> the Presidency in this 2012 election:
>>>>
>>>> He's not Barack Obama.
>>>
>>> That's pathetic. Obama is a great man.
>>
>> On a good day, he's completely average and forgettable.
>
>
> A good day being a day with no problems with his teleprompter or VP.


*Rumination*
#59 - A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work.

Harold Burton

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Aug 20, 2012, 3:25:11 PM8/20/12
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In article <XnsA0B564123...@216.196.121.131>,
Maybe not, dudu is not too smart. :-)

Harold Burton

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Aug 20, 2012, 3:26:02 PM8/20/12
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In article <4qq438hqu9ue7unv8...@4ax.com>,
They make loopholes at the behest of EVERYONE's lobbyists.


snicker

RD Sandman

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Aug 20, 2012, 3:48:39 PM8/20/12
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Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:hal.i.burton-556F...@news.newsguy.com:
While true, more lobbyists work for the 1% than work for the 99%.

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5 second fuses last about 3 seconds...

RD Sandman

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Aug 20, 2012, 3:49:01 PM8/20/12
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Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:hal.i.burton-43D3...@news.newsguy.com:
;)

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Harold Burton

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Aug 20, 2012, 4:44:54 PM8/20/12
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In article <XnsA0B58252B...@216.196.121.131>,
Proof? Cite?


snicker

deep

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Aug 20, 2012, 5:38:52 PM8/20/12
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:26:02 -0400, Harold Burton
Lobbyists work for people with lots of money.
>
>snicker

Harold Burton

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Aug 20, 2012, 5:45:42 PM8/20/12
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In article <sib538d43978e9lf4...@4ax.com>,
and for the middle class.


snicker

deep

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Aug 20, 2012, 5:49:04 PM8/20/12
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:45:42 -0400, Harold Burton
Bullshit. I bet the 1% have 10 times more lobbyists and a million
times more money to throw around than does the 99%

>snicker

RD Sandman

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Aug 20, 2012, 6:33:30 PM8/20/12
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Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:hal.i.burton-67EA...@news.newsguy.com:
They pay much better. ;)

Cite?
>
>
> snicker

RD Sandman

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Aug 20, 2012, 6:34:27 PM8/20/12
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deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in
news:sib538d43978e9lf4...@4ax.com:
So? Poorer people can get together and raise more money. ;)

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RD Sandman

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Aug 20, 2012, 6:35:05 PM8/20/12
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deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in
news:a5c538pjm5a0gsopv...@4ax.com:
Not collectively.

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Harold Burton

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Aug 20, 2012, 8:31:31 PM8/20/12
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In article <a5c538pjm5a0gsopv...@4ax.com>,
So back it up, prove it.


But remember the AFL-CIO, UAW, UMWA, IBT, NEA, CTA, AFGE, IBEW, and
numerous other unions have a LOT of money to throw around on lobbyists.



<http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/09/labor-lobbying-union-pac-money.h
tml>


Leftards, batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.

Harold Burton

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Aug 20, 2012, 8:32:32 PM8/20/12
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In article <XnsA0B59E89D...@216.196.121.131>,
Don't confuse the idiot sunk deep in dudu with inconvenient facts. :-)

Harold Burton

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Aug 20, 2012, 8:33:30 PM8/20/12
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In article <XnsA0B59E457...@216.196.121.131>,
Proof?

Harold Burton

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Aug 20, 2012, 8:35:48 PM8/20/12
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In article <XnsA0B59E6E8...@216.196.121.131>,
Yeah, like the AFL-CIO, UAW, IBEW, NEA, CTA, UMWA, etc. And they DO.


<http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/09/labor-lobbying-union-pac-money.h
tml>

But try not to confuse idiots like sunk deep in dudu with inconvenient
facts. :-)

Neolibertarian

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Aug 20, 2012, 8:50:43 PM8/20/12
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In article <XnsA0B56B1C2...@216.196.121.131>,
RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Perhaps, if the American voter would get off his or her lazy ass and
> learn some stuff about politics and how thing like government work, we
> could do that. Instead, we have an electorate where only 39% of those
> voters even know who the VP is.

39%?

Who woulda thought it was so high?

--
Neolibertarian

"Global Warming: It ain't the heat, it's the stupidity."

Neolibertarian

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Aug 20, 2012, 8:56:03 PM8/20/12
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In article <s4g4389nebjbreojo...@4ax.com>,
deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 00:35:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <4jc238p27p2rpp2m6...@4ax.com>,
> > deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:04:00 -0500, Neolibertarian
> >> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <711238pnqrgga652m...@4ax.com>,
> >> > deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:36:33 -0500, Neolibertarian
> >> >> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >And what we're REALLY concerned about are Mitt Romney's ancient income
> >> >> >tax returns?
> >> >>
> >> >> His failure to reveal his tax history means he has something to hide,
> >> >
> >> >He hasn't anything to hide, and he's got nothing he might need to prove
> >> >to you.
> >>
> >> How do you knnow?
> >
> >Because he has the one and only absolutely essential qualification for
> >the Presidency in this 2012 election:
> >
> >He's not Barack Obama.
>
> That's pathetic.

Innit though?

> Obama is a great man.

Yes, I've heard that said a time or two. Not lately, but I've heard it.

"Obama is a great man."

I'm genuinely curious--exactly how is that?

You know, when you claim Abraham Lincoln was a great man, it's not so
hard to substantiate with evidence.

Why is Abraham Lincoln great? Well, because he successfully conducted
the Civil War and preserved the union, that's why. He freed the slaves.
He stood athwart the currents of his time and did what he believed
right, despite the criticism and push back such actions inevitably drew.

Likewise, if you'd claim George Washington was a great man, there are
many apparent virtues, works and accomplishments to point to. Same for
Charlemagne. Caesar. Benjamin Franklin. Thomas Paine. Karl Marx. Mao
T'ze-tung.

Even Joe Montana and Michael Jordan--it's easy to point to something
which made them great, as well.

So this should be easy. This is your golden opportunity to educate the
conservatives.

Barack Obama is a great man because: _________________________________.
(Please fill in the blank. Use reverse side if more space is needed.)


> You better be careful what
> you wish for.

Believe me, I'm well aware of the hazards.

They're all politicians, after all.

If I only could figure out a way to get someone who's not a politician
elected to office, I'd be onboard.

But "if only" is for children.

> If you in any way favor Romney evenfor the absurd
> reason of your hatred for Obama, then you prove you know nothing about
> the Mormons.

Oh come now.

You can't judge an entire religion just because of one crooked, slimy,
dimwitted malcontent like Harry Reid.

> A Mormon President is the worst thing that could happen
> to this country.

Don't know about that, but I know it's been a huge disaster with a
Mormon Senate Majority Leader since 2007.

BeamMeUpScotty

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Aug 20, 2012, 10:07:32 PM8/20/12
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NOT nearly as bad as a Socialist President.



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you might call them the Liberal-Socialist "MACHINE" that has created
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BeamMeUpScotty

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Aug 20, 2012, 10:24:26 PM8/20/12
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Jobs from rich people?


That sure is odd? ;)


How does government hire someone, they take the money from rich people
and then hire the poor.... For every government worker there is a
wealthy person that paid the bill when government hired them.



SO how many jobs did Obama create? And why is Obama's economy
floundering in StagFlation...

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*Rumination*
#24 - Business is the art of making painful choices and getting it right
often enough to stay in business.

Scout

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Aug 20, 2012, 10:46:51 PM8/20/12
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
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You want a health change in tax policy.

US Tax Code.

A = Your total income
B = Poverty Level Deduction
C = Federal income tax rate

Federal Income Tax = (A-B) * C

You could do your income taxes on a matchbook.

Somehow, I suspect a consistent and fair tax policy won't meet with your
approval.


Too_Many_Tools

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Aug 20, 2012, 11:31:53 PM8/20/12
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On Aug 20, 1:33 pm, "dcas...@krl.org" <dcas...@krl.org> wrote:
> On Aug 20, 9:53 am, deep <d...@dudu.org> wrote:
>
> > That's pathetic.  Obama is a great man.  You better be careful what
> > you wish for.  If you in any way favor Romney evenfor the absurd
> > reason of your hatred for Obama, then you prove you know nothing about
> > the Mormons.  A Mormon President is the worst thing that could happen
> > to this country.
>
> So name the great things that Obama has done.
>
> And why is a Mormon President the worst thing that could happen to
> this country?  Take all the electrons you need to reply.  But we want
> details.
>
>                                                        Dan

We won't have one if he doesn't show us his tax returns.

TMT

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 21, 2012, 7:27:55 AM8/21/12
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>deep <de...@dudu.org> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>Congress made those loopholes at the behest of the wealthy's
>lobbyists. The rich have been tweeking our tax system to their
>benefit for years. Middle class Americans who don't have their own
>tax lawyers aren't capable of taking advantage of changes in the tax
>code.

Another lie that I'll add to your list.

> Regular people are sick of the wealthy exploiting the system
>because they don't want to pay taxes.

Romney paid more in taxes in one year than you'll ever MAKE in your
lifetime.

dca...@krl.org

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Aug 21, 2012, 9:42:43 AM8/21/12
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On Aug 20, 11:31 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > And why is a Mormon President the worst thing that could happen to
> > this country?  Take all the electrons you need to reply.  But we want
> > details.
>
> >                                                        Dan
>
> We won't have one if he doesn't show us his tax returns.
>
> TMT

Ah, but we will elect Romney. Watch the poll numbers and see how
they change after the Republican convention.

Dan

STEADY EDDY

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Aug 21, 2012, 10:21:40 AM8/21/12
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Wake up you are dreaming. Everyone gets a bump in the polls after the
convention. If the bump in the polls dissipate after 2 weeks Romney
will be back to square one. The problem for Romney is the booming
stock market.
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