Public Religion Survey Proves Right Wingers Evolving into Commies, If Not Already Commies

[Kurt Nicklas]

ed...@post.com wrote

> Subject: Public Religion Survey Proves Right Wingers Evolving into
Commies, If Not Already Commies
> From: "ed...@post.com" <ed...@post.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
>
> Those who buy into former President Trumpƒ Ts lies over the 2020
election and those who watch the far-right channels that amplify his
rhetoric are increasingly embracing anti-democratic opinions and even
contemplating political violence, according to a new poll.
>
> The poll from the nonpartisan Public Religion Research Institute paints
a troubling portrait of a growing segment of the public that is
increasingly unmoored from reality as it embraces conspiracy theories
about child abduction and stolen elections.
>
> It found a deep divide between those who trust right-wing media outlets
and the rest of the nation ƒ " and even a divide between those who trust
Fox News and those who trust outlets like One America News Network and
Newsmax.
>
> The poll found about 3 in 10 Americans, 31 percent, believe the 2020
election was stolen from Trump, including two-thirds of Republicans and a
whopping 82 percent of those who trust Fox News more than any other media
outlet.
>
> Among those who trust far-right outlets like One America News Network
and Newsmax, 97 percent say they believe the election ƒ " which even
Trumpƒ Ts own cybersecurity and election security officials agreed was the
safest and most secure ever conducted in the United States ƒ " was stolen.
>
> One in 5 Americans believe in the core tenet of the QAnon conspiracy
that ƒ othere is a storm coming soon,ƒ while 1 in 6 believe the United
States government is controlled by a group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles
who run a global child sex-trafficking ring.
>
> The same share, 18 percent, say they agree with the statement that
America has gotten so far off track that ƒ otrue American patriots may
have to resort to violence in order to save our country.ƒ
>
> The poll found 30 percent of Republicans agree that violence might be
warranted, compared with 17 percent of independents and 11 percent of
Democrats. Those who buy into the farthest-right media outlets are even
more likely to contemplate violence; among those people, 40 percent agree.
>
> ƒ oIƒ Tm not an alarmist by nature, but Iƒ Tm deeply disturbed by these
numbers. I think that we really have to take them seriously as a threat to
democracy,ƒ said Robert Jones, the founder and chief executive of the
Public Religion Research Institute.
>
> The FBI has reported in recent years that white supremacists pose a
critical threat to the safety and security of the United States.
>
> Jones said the growing share of Republicans and arch-conservatives who
buy into the false and violent rhetoric are transforming one of Americaƒ
Ts two major political parties into a party of racial and religious
grievance, one that sees the ominous other encroaching on what it means to
be an American.
>
> Just 29 percent of Republicans say life has changed mostly for the
better since the 1950s, before civil rights movements ushered in new
protections and more rights for minorities, women and the LGBT community.
The share of white evangelical Protestants and white Catholics who say
life was better 70 years ago ƒ " when the average American made far less
and lived for a shorter time than they do today ƒ " has also grown in
recent years.
>
> ƒ oThereƒ Ts a kind of wistfulness and nostalgia, the power of the
mythical past,ƒ Jones said. ƒ oIt is an ethno-religious identity, it is
a white Christian America and specifically a white Protestant America that
people are harkening back to.ƒ
>
> John Pitney, a political scientist at Claremont McKenna College and a
former top official at the Republican National Committee during George
H.W. Bushƒ Ts presidency, said the data reflected a wholesale reinvention
of a Republican Party that once aspired to Ronald Reaganƒ Ts shining city
on a hill.
>
> ƒ oBack in the 1980s, Republicans aspired to be the party of hope and
opportunity. Now it is the party of blood and soil. The culture war is
front and center, and for many Republicans, it is close to being a literal
war, not just a metaphorical one,ƒ Pitney said. ƒ oRepublicans have a
nostalgia for an America that never really existed.ƒ
>
> The poll found Republican voters far more likely than Democrats to argue
that religious or nativist traits are important to being an American: 9 in
10 Republicans, but only two-thirds of Democrats, say speaking English is
important to an American identity. Nearly two-thirds of Republicans said
both being born in America and being a Christian are important to being an
American; more than half of Democrats said those traits were not important
to an American identity.
>
> Eighty percent of Republicans said America is in danger of losing its
culture and identity, and 98 percent of far-right television viewers
agreed; just a third of Democrats and half of independents said the same.
More than half of Republicans, 56 percent, said things have changed so
much in America that they often feel like a stranger in their own country;
just 31 percent of Democrats agreed.
>
> More than half of Americans, including 55 percent of independent voters
and even 9 percent of Republicans, say the Republican Party today has been
taken over by racists, while just 45 percent say the party is trying to
protect America from outside threats.
>
> Forty-four percent said the Democratic Party had been taken over by
socialists, a number that has not risen in recent years.
>
> Trump, who based his first campaign on a pledge to end ƒ oAmerican
carnageƒ and who rose to the pinnacle of the Republican Party at which
he remains today by pledging to build a wall on the Mexican border, is not
entirely responsible for the transformation of Reaganƒ Ts GOP, experts
agreed. Instead, some said Trump took advantage of an environment of fear
and angst that already existed, directed it toward the ominous other and
became something of a metaphorical bulwark himself.
>
> ƒ oTrump walked onto a stage that was already set. The set was painted,
the props were there, he turned out to be considerably effective at using
those props and strutting about that stage, but itƒ Ts not a stage of his
creation,ƒ Jones said. ƒ oHe metaphorically presented himself as a wall
against these changes, and he presented himself as the only thing standing
between his followers and a changing America.ƒ
>
> The economic anxiety that some point to as the genesis of Trumpƒ Ts rise
certainly exists, though it is an angst that crosses racial and
demographic lines and one that predates the pandemic. More than 8 in 10
Americans said costs of housing and everyday expenses are rising faster
than their income, and 4 in 10 are concerned about their ability to pay
for basic goods.
>
> The shares of Black and Hispanic Americans who worry about paying for
basic goods, rent and credit card debt are all higher than the share of
white Americans. But 38 percent of whites said they, too, are worried
about affording basic goods.
>
> At a time when politicians ƒ " and Trump, most prominently ƒ " are
pitting groups against each other, those anxieties manifest in the divides
that are widening today, Jones said.
>
> ƒ oAmericans are feeling the economic crunches and they donƒ Tt just see
it as a result of the pandemic,ƒ Jones said. ƒ oThat doesnƒ Tt help turn
the flame down on these cultural conflicts, it exacerbates them. If people
are feeling like the pie is too small and itƒ Ts a zero-sum game, thatƒ Ts
not a great place for political compromise or finding common ground.ƒ
>
> The Public Religion Research Institute poll was conducted from Sept. 16
to 29 among 2,508 adults over the age of 18. It carried a margin of error
of plus or minus 2.1 percentage points.
>
> https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/579160-stunning-survey-gives-
grim-view-of-flourishing-anti-democratic-opinions
>
>

Rightists love citing Russia Today (RT.COM) and failed president free
spending mental case trump is their idol.

Soon will be the to round up rightists and russians alike and gass 'em.


Their inferior intelligence AND lies can no longer be tolerated by
patriots.

[Kurt Nicklas]

[RichA]

ed...@post.com wrote

> Those who buy into former President Trump’s lies over the 2020

election and those who watch the far-right channels that amplify his
rhetoric are increasingly embracing anti-democratic opinions and even
contemplating political violence, according to a new poll.
>
> The poll from the nonpartisan Public Religion Research Institute paints
a troubling portrait of a growing segment of the public that is
increasingly unmoored from reality as it embraces conspiracy theories
about child abduction and stolen elections.
>
> It found a deep divide between those who trust right-wing media outlets

and the rest of the nation — and even a divide between those who trust

Fox News and those who trust outlets like One America News Network and
Newsmax.
>
> The poll found about 3 in 10 Americans, 31 percent, believe the 2020
election was stolen from Trump, including two-thirds of Republicans and a
whopping 82 percent of those who trust Fox News more than any other media
outlet.
>
> Among those who trust far-right outlets like One America News Network

and Newsmax, 97 percent say they believe the election — which even
Trump’s own cybersecurity and election security officials agreed was the
safest and most secure ever conducted in the United States — was stolen.

>
> One in 5 Americans believe in the core tenet of the QAnon conspiracy

that “there is a storm coming soon,” while 1 in 6 believe the United

States government is controlled by a group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles
who run a global child sex-trafficking ring.
>
> The same share, 18 percent, say they agree with the statement that

America has gotten so far off track that “true American patriots may
have to resort to violence in order to save our country.”

>
> The poll found 30 percent of Republicans agree that violence might be
warranted, compared with 17 percent of independents and 11 percent of
Democrats. Those who buy into the farthest-right media outlets are even
more likely to contemplate violence; among those people, 40 percent agree.
>

> “I’m not an alarmist by nature, but I’m deeply disturbed by these

numbers. I think that we really have to take them seriously as a threat to

democracy,” said Robert Jones, the founder and chief executive of the

Public Religion Research Institute.
>
> The FBI has reported in recent years that white supremacists pose a
critical threat to the safety and security of the United States.
>
> Jones said the growing share of Republicans and arch-conservatives who

buy into the false and violent rhetoric are transforming one of Americaâ
�™s two major political parties into a party of racial and religious

grievance, one that sees the ominous other encroaching on what it means to
be an American.
>
> Just 29 percent of Republicans say life has changed mostly for the
better since the 1950s, before civil rights movements ushered in new
protections and more rights for minorities, women and the LGBT community.
The share of white evangelical Protestants and white Catholics who say

life was better 70 years ago — when the average American made far less
and lived for a shorter time than they do today — has also grown in
recent years.
>
> “There’s a kind of wistfulness and nostalgia, the power of the
mythical past,” Jones said. “It is an ethno-religious identity, it is

a white Christian America and specifically a white Protestant America that

people are harkening back to.”

>
> John Pitney, a political scientist at Claremont McKenna College and a
former top official at the Republican National Committee during George

H.W. Bush’s presidency, said the data reflected a wholesale reinvention
of a Republican Party that once aspired to Ronald Reagan’s shining city
on a hill.
>
> “Back in the 1980s, Republicans aspired to be the party of hope and

opportunity. Now it is the party of blood and soil. The culture war is
front and center, and for many Republicans, it is close to being a literal

war, not just a metaphorical one,” Pitney said. “Republicans have a
nostalgia for an America that never really existed.”

>
> The poll found Republican voters far more likely than Democrats to argue
that religious or nativist traits are important to being an American: 9 in
10 Republicans, but only two-thirds of Democrats, say speaking English is
important to an American identity. Nearly two-thirds of Republicans said
both being born in America and being a Christian are important to being an
American; more than half of Democrats said those traits were not important
to an American identity.
>
> Eighty percent of Republicans said America is in danger of losing its
culture and identity, and 98 percent of far-right television viewers
agreed; just a third of Democrats and half of independents said the same.
More than half of Republicans, 56 percent, said things have changed so
much in America that they often feel like a stranger in their own country;
just 31 percent of Democrats agreed.
>
> More than half of Americans, including 55 percent of independent voters
and even 9 percent of Republicans, say the Republican Party today has been
taken over by racists, while just 45 percent say the party is trying to
protect America from outside threats.
>
> Forty-four percent said the Democratic Party had been taken over by
socialists, a number that has not risen in recent years.
>

> Trump, who based his first campaign on a pledge to end “American
carnage” and who rose to the pinnacle of the Republican Party at which

he remains today by pledging to build a wall on the Mexican border, is not

entirely responsible for the transformation of Reagan’s GOP, experts

agreed. Instead, some said Trump took advantage of an environment of fear
and angst that already existed, directed it toward the ominous other and
became something of a metaphorical bulwark himself.
>

> “Trump walked onto a stage that was already set. The set was painted,

the props were there, he turned out to be considerably effective at using

those props and strutting about that stage, but it’s not a stage of his
creation,” Jones said. “He metaphorically presented himself as a wall

against these changes, and he presented himself as the only thing standing

between his followers and a changing America.”
>
> The economic anxiety that some point to as the genesis of Trump’s rise

certainly exists, though it is an angst that crosses racial and
demographic lines and one that predates the pandemic. More than 8 in 10
Americans said costs of housing and everyday expenses are rising faster
than their income, and 4 in 10 are concerned about their ability to pay
for basic goods.
>
> The shares of Black and Hispanic Americans who worry about paying for
basic goods, rent and credit card debt are all higher than the share of
white Americans. But 38 percent of whites said they, too, are worried
about affording basic goods.
>

> At a time when politicians — and Trump, most prominently — are

pitting groups against each other, those anxieties manifest in the divides
that are widening today, Jones said.
>

> “Americans are feeling the economic crunches and they don’t just see
it as a result of the pandemic,” Jones said. “That doesn’t help turn

the flame down on these cultural conflicts, it exacerbates them. If people

are feeling like the pie is too small and it’s a zero-sum game, that’s
not a great place for political compromise or finding common ground.”

[Kurt Nicklas]

ed...@post.com wrote

> Subject: Public Religion Survey Proves Right Wingers Evolving into
Commies, If Not Already Commies
> From: "ed...@post.com" <ed...@post.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
>

> Those who buy into former President Trumpƒ Ts lies over the 2020

election and those who watch the far-right channels that amplify his
rhetoric are increasingly embracing anti-democratic opinions and even
contemplating political violence, according to a new poll.
>
> The poll from the nonpartisan Public Religion Research Institute paints
a troubling portrait of a growing segment of the public that is
increasingly unmoored from reality as it embraces conspiracy theories
about child abduction and stolen elections.
>
> It found a deep divide between those who trust right-wing media outlets

and the rest of the nation ƒ " and even a divide between those who trust

Fox News and those who trust outlets like One America News Network and
Newsmax.
>
> The poll found about 3 in 10 Americans, 31 percent, believe the 2020
election was stolen from Trump, including two-thirds of Republicans and a
whopping 82 percent of those who trust Fox News more than any other media
outlet.
>
> Among those who trust far-right outlets like One America News Network

and Newsmax, 97 percent say they believe the election ƒ " which even

Trumpƒ Ts own cybersecurity and election security officials agreed was the
safest and most secure ever conducted in the United States ƒ " was stolen.

>
> One in 5 Americans believe in the core tenet of the QAnon conspiracy

that ƒ othere is a storm coming soon,ƒ while 1 in 6 believe the United

States government is controlled by a group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles
who run a global child sex-trafficking ring.
>
> The same share, 18 percent, say they agree with the statement that

America has gotten so far off track that ƒ otrue American patriots may
have to resort to violence in order to save our country.ƒ

>
> The poll found 30 percent of Republicans agree that violence might be
warranted, compared with 17 percent of independents and 11 percent of
Democrats. Those who buy into the farthest-right media outlets are even
more likely to contemplate violence; among those people, 40 percent agree.
>

> ƒ oIƒ Tm not an alarmist by nature, but Iƒ Tm deeply disturbed by these

numbers. I think that we really have to take them seriously as a threat to

democracy,ƒ said Robert Jones, the founder and chief executive of the

Public Religion Research Institute.
>
> The FBI has reported in recent years that white supremacists pose a
critical threat to the safety and security of the United States.
>
> Jones said the growing share of Republicans and arch-conservatives who

buy into the false and violent rhetoric are transforming one of Americaƒ
Ts two major political parties into a party of racial and religious

grievance, one that sees the ominous other encroaching on what it means to
be an American.
>
> Just 29 percent of Republicans say life has changed mostly for the
better since the 1950s, before civil rights movements ushered in new
protections and more rights for minorities, women and the LGBT community.
The share of white evangelical Protestants and white Catholics who say

life was better 70 years ago ƒ " when the average American made far less
and lived for a shorter time than they do today ƒ " has also grown in
recent years.
>

> ƒ oThereƒ Ts a kind of wistfulness and nostalgia, the power of the

mythical past,ƒ Jones said. ƒ oIt is an ethno-religious identity, it is

a white Christian America and specifically a white Protestant America that

people are harkening back to.ƒ

>
> John Pitney, a political scientist at Claremont McKenna College and a
former top official at the Republican National Committee during George

H.W. Bushƒ Ts presidency, said the data reflected a wholesale reinvention
of a Republican Party that once aspired to Ronald Reaganƒ Ts shining city
on a hill.
>
> ƒ oBack in the 1980s, Republicans aspired to be the party of hope and

opportunity. Now it is the party of blood and soil. The culture war is
front and center, and for many Republicans, it is close to being a literal

war, not just a metaphorical one,ƒ Pitney said. ƒ oRepublicans have a
nostalgia for an America that never really existed.ƒ

>
> The poll found Republican voters far more likely than Democrats to argue
that religious or nativist traits are important to being an American: 9 in
10 Republicans, but only two-thirds of Democrats, say speaking English is
important to an American identity. Nearly two-thirds of Republicans said
both being born in America and being a Christian are important to being an
American; more than half of Democrats said those traits were not important
to an American identity.
>
> Eighty percent of Republicans said America is in danger of losing its
culture and identity, and 98 percent of far-right television viewers
agreed; just a third of Democrats and half of independents said the same.
More than half of Republicans, 56 percent, said things have changed so
much in America that they often feel like a stranger in their own country;
just 31 percent of Democrats agreed.
>
> More than half of Americans, including 55 percent of independent voters
and even 9 percent of Republicans, say the Republican Party today has been
taken over by racists, while just 45 percent say the party is trying to
protect America from outside threats.
>
> Forty-four percent said the Democratic Party had been taken over by
socialists, a number that has not risen in recent years.
>

> Trump, who based his first campaign on a pledge to end ƒ oAmerican
carnageƒ and who rose to the pinnacle of the Republican Party at which

he remains today by pledging to build a wall on the Mexican border, is not

entirely responsible for the transformation of Reaganƒ Ts GOP, experts

agreed. Instead, some said Trump took advantage of an environment of fear
and angst that already existed, directed it toward the ominous other and
became something of a metaphorical bulwark himself.
>

> ƒ oTrump walked onto a stage that was already set. The set was painted,

the props were there, he turned out to be considerably effective at using

those props and strutting about that stage, but itƒ Ts not a stage of his

creation,ƒ Jones said. ƒ oHe metaphorically presented himself as a wall

against these changes, and he presented himself as the only thing standing

between his followers and a changing America.ƒ
>
> The economic anxiety that some point to as the genesis of Trumpƒ Ts rise

certainly exists, though it is an angst that crosses racial and
demographic lines and one that predates the pandemic. More than 8 in 10
Americans said costs of housing and everyday expenses are rising faster
than their income, and 4 in 10 are concerned about their ability to pay
for basic goods.
>
> The shares of Black and Hispanic Americans who worry about paying for
basic goods, rent and credit card debt are all higher than the share of
white Americans. But 38 percent of whites said they, too, are worried
about affording basic goods.
>

> At a time when politicians ƒ " and Trump, most prominently ƒ " are

pitting groups against each other, those anxieties manifest in the divides
that are widening today, Jones said.
>

> ƒ oAmericans are feeling the economic crunches and they donƒ Tt just see

it as a result of the pandemic,ƒ Jones said. ƒ oThat doesnƒ Tt help turn

the flame down on these cultural conflicts, it exacerbates them. If people

are feeling like the pie is too small and itƒ Ts a zero-sum game, thatƒ Ts

not a great place for political compromise or finding common ground.ƒ

>
> The Public Religion Research Institute poll was conducted from Sept. 16
to 29 among 2,508 adults over the age of 18. It carried a margin of error
of plus or minus 2.1 percentage points.
>
> https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/579160-stunning-survey-gives-
grim-view-of-flourishing-anti-democratic-opinions
>
>

[RichA]

ed...@post.com wrote

> Those who buy into former President Trump’s lies over the 2020

election and those who watch the far-right channels that amplify his
rhetoric are increasingly embracing anti-democratic opinions and even
contemplating political violence, according to a new poll.
>
> The poll from the nonpartisan Public Religion Research Institute paints
a troubling portrait of a growing segment of the public that is
increasingly unmoored from reality as it embraces conspiracy theories
about child abduction and stolen elections.
>
> It found a deep divide between those who trust right-wing media outlets

and the rest of the nation — and even a divide between those who trust

Fox News and those who trust outlets like One America News Network and
Newsmax.
>
> The poll found about 3 in 10 Americans, 31 percent, believe the 2020
election was stolen from Trump, including two-thirds of Republicans and a
whopping 82 percent of those who trust Fox News more than any other media
outlet.
>
> Among those who trust far-right outlets like One America News Network

and Newsmax, 97 percent say they believe the election — which even
Trump’s own cybersecurity and election security officials agreed was the
safest and most secure ever conducted in the United States — was stolen.

>
> One in 5 Americans believe in the core tenet of the QAnon conspiracy

that “there is a storm coming soon,” while 1 in 6 believe the United

States government is controlled by a group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles
who run a global child sex-trafficking ring.
>
> The same share, 18 percent, say they agree with the statement that

America has gotten so far off track that “true American patriots may
have to resort to violence in order to save our country.”

>
> The poll found 30 percent of Republicans agree that violence might be
warranted, compared with 17 percent of independents and 11 percent of
Democrats. Those who buy into the farthest-right media outlets are even
more likely to contemplate violence; among those people, 40 percent agree.
>

> “I’m not an alarmist by nature, but I’m deeply disturbed by these

numbers. I think that we really have to take them seriously as a threat to

democracy,” said Robert Jones, the founder and chief executive of the

Public Religion Research Institute.
>
> The FBI has reported in recent years that white supremacists pose a
critical threat to the safety and security of the United States.
>
> Jones said the growing share of Republicans and arch-conservatives who

buy into the false and violent rhetoric are transforming one of Americaâ
�™s two major political parties into a party of racial and religious

grievance, one that sees the ominous other encroaching on what it means to
be an American.
>
> Just 29 percent of Republicans say life has changed mostly for the
better since the 1950s, before civil rights movements ushered in new
protections and more rights for minorities, women and the LGBT community.
The share of white evangelical Protestants and white Catholics who say

life was better 70 years ago — when the average American made far less
and lived for a shorter time than they do today — has also grown in
recent years.
>
> “There’s a kind of wistfulness and nostalgia, the power of the
mythical past,” Jones said. “It is an ethno-religious identity, it is

a white Christian America and specifically a white Protestant America that

people are harkening back to.”

>
> John Pitney, a political scientist at Claremont McKenna College and a
former top official at the Republican National Committee during George

H.W. Bush’s presidency, said the data reflected a wholesale reinvention
of a Republican Party that once aspired to Ronald Reagan’s shining city
on a hill.
>
> “Back in the 1980s, Republicans aspired to be the party of hope and

opportunity. Now it is the party of blood and soil. The culture war is
front and center, and for many Republicans, it is close to being a literal

war, not just a metaphorical one,” Pitney said. “Republicans have a
nostalgia for an America that never really existed.”

>
> The poll found Republican voters far more likely than Democrats to argue
that religious or nativist traits are important to being an American: 9 in
10 Republicans, but only two-thirds of Democrats, say speaking English is
important to an American identity. Nearly two-thirds of Republicans said
both being born in America and being a Christian are important to being an
American; more than half of Democrats said those traits were not important
to an American identity.
>
> Eighty percent of Republicans said America is in danger of losing its
culture and identity, and 98 percent of far-right television viewers
agreed; just a third of Democrats and half of independents said the same.
More than half of Republicans, 56 percent, said things have changed so
much in America that they often feel like a stranger in their own country;
just 31 percent of Democrats agreed.
>
> More than half of Americans, including 55 percent of independent voters
and even 9 percent of Republicans, say the Republican Party today has been
taken over by racists, while just 45 percent say the party is trying to
protect America from outside threats.
>
> Forty-four percent said the Democratic Party had been taken over by
socialists, a number that has not risen in recent years.
>

> Trump, who based his first campaign on a pledge to end “American
carnage” and who rose to the pinnacle of the Republican Party at which

he remains today by pledging to build a wall on the Mexican border, is not

entirely responsible for the transformation of Reagan’s GOP, experts

agreed. Instead, some said Trump took advantage of an environment of fear
and angst that already existed, directed it toward the ominous other and
became something of a metaphorical bulwark himself.
>

> “Trump walked onto a stage that was already set. The set was painted,

the props were there, he turned out to be considerably effective at using

those props and strutting about that stage, but it’s not a stage of his
creation,” Jones said. “He metaphorically presented himself as a wall

against these changes, and he presented himself as the only thing standing

between his followers and a changing America.”
>
> The economic anxiety that some point to as the genesis of Trump’s rise

certainly exists, though it is an angst that crosses racial and
demographic lines and one that predates the pandemic. More than 8 in 10
Americans said costs of housing and everyday expenses are rising faster
than their income, and 4 in 10 are concerned about their ability to pay
for basic goods.
>
> The shares of Black and Hispanic Americans who worry about paying for
basic goods, rent and credit card debt are all higher than the share of
white Americans. But 38 percent of whites said they, too, are worried
about affording basic goods.
>

> At a time when politicians — and Trump, most prominently — are

pitting groups against each other, those anxieties manifest in the divides
that are widening today, Jones said.
>

> “Americans are feeling the economic crunches and they don’t just see

it as a result of the pandemic,” Jones said. “That doesn’t help turn

the flame down on these cultural conflicts, it exacerbates them. If people

are feeling like the pie is too small and it’s a zero-sum game, that’s

not a great place for political compromise or finding common ground.”

[RichA]

[RichA]

[RichA]

[Kurt Nicklas]

ed...@post.com wrote

> Subject: Public Religion Survey Proves Right Wingers Evolving into
Commies, If Not Already Commies
> From: "ed...@post.com" <ed...@post.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
>

> Those who buy into former President Trumpƒ Ts lies over the 2020

election and those who watch the far-right channels that amplify his
rhetoric are increasingly embracing anti-democratic opinions and even
contemplating political violence, according to a new poll.
>
> The poll from the nonpartisan Public Religion Research Institute paints
a troubling portrait of a growing segment of the public that is
increasingly unmoored from reality as it embraces conspiracy theories
about child abduction and stolen elections.
>
> It found a deep divide between those who trust right-wing media outlets

and the rest of the nation ƒ " and even a divide between those who trust

Fox News and those who trust outlets like One America News Network and
Newsmax.
>
> The poll found about 3 in 10 Americans, 31 percent, believe the 2020
election was stolen from Trump, including two-thirds of Republicans and a
whopping 82 percent of those who trust Fox News more than any other media
outlet.
>
> Among those who trust far-right outlets like One America News Network

and Newsmax, 97 percent say they believe the election ƒ " which even

Trumpƒ Ts own cybersecurity and election security officials agreed was the
safest and most secure ever conducted in the United States ƒ " was stolen.

>
> One in 5 Americans believe in the core tenet of the QAnon conspiracy

that ƒ othere is a storm coming soon,ƒ while 1 in 6 believe the United

States government is controlled by a group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles
who run a global child sex-trafficking ring.
>
> The same share, 18 percent, say they agree with the statement that

America has gotten so far off track that ƒ otrue American patriots may
have to resort to violence in order to save our country.ƒ

>
> The poll found 30 percent of Republicans agree that violence might be
warranted, compared with 17 percent of independents and 11 percent of
Democrats. Those who buy into the farthest-right media outlets are even
more likely to contemplate violence; among those people, 40 percent agree.
>

> ƒ oIƒ Tm not an alarmist by nature, but Iƒ Tm deeply disturbed by these

numbers. I think that we really have to take them seriously as a threat to

democracy,ƒ said Robert Jones, the founder and chief executive of the

Public Religion Research Institute.
>
> The FBI has reported in recent years that white supremacists pose a
critical threat to the safety and security of the United States.
>
> Jones said the growing share of Republicans and arch-conservatives who

buy into the false and violent rhetoric are transforming one of Americaƒ
Ts two major political parties into a party of racial and religious

grievance, one that sees the ominous other encroaching on what it means to
be an American.
>
> Just 29 percent of Republicans say life has changed mostly for the
better since the 1950s, before civil rights movements ushered in new
protections and more rights for minorities, women and the LGBT community.
The share of white evangelical Protestants and white Catholics who say

life was better 70 years ago ƒ " when the average American made far less
and lived for a shorter time than they do today ƒ " has also grown in
recent years.
>

> ƒ oThereƒ Ts a kind of wistfulness and nostalgia, the power of the

mythical past,ƒ Jones said. ƒ oIt is an ethno-religious identity, it is

a white Christian America and specifically a white Protestant America that

people are harkening back to.ƒ

>
> John Pitney, a political scientist at Claremont McKenna College and a
former top official at the Republican National Committee during George

H.W. Bushƒ Ts presidency, said the data reflected a wholesale reinvention
of a Republican Party that once aspired to Ronald Reaganƒ Ts shining city
on a hill.
>
> ƒ oBack in the 1980s, Republicans aspired to be the party of hope and

opportunity. Now it is the party of blood and soil. The culture war is
front and center, and for many Republicans, it is close to being a literal

war, not just a metaphorical one,ƒ Pitney said. ƒ oRepublicans have a
nostalgia for an America that never really existed.ƒ

>
> The poll found Republican voters far more likely than Democrats to argue
that religious or nativist traits are important to being an American: 9 in
10 Republicans, but only two-thirds of Democrats, say speaking English is
important to an American identity. Nearly two-thirds of Republicans said
both being born in America and being a Christian are important to being an
American; more than half of Democrats said those traits were not important
to an American identity.
>
> Eighty percent of Republicans said America is in danger of losing its
culture and identity, and 98 percent of far-right television viewers
agreed; just a third of Democrats and half of independents said the same.
More than half of Republicans, 56 percent, said things have changed so
much in America that they often feel like a stranger in their own country;
just 31 percent of Democrats agreed.
>
> More than half of Americans, including 55 percent of independent voters
and even 9 percent of Republicans, say the Republican Party today has been
taken over by racists, while just 45 percent say the party is trying to
protect America from outside threats.
>
> Forty-four percent said the Democratic Party had been taken over by
socialists, a number that has not risen in recent years.
>

> Trump, who based his first campaign on a pledge to end ƒ oAmerican
carnageƒ and who rose to the pinnacle of the Republican Party at which

he remains today by pledging to build a wall on the Mexican border, is not

entirely responsible for the transformation of Reaganƒ Ts GOP, experts

agreed. Instead, some said Trump took advantage of an environment of fear
and angst that already existed, directed it toward the ominous other and
became something of a metaphorical bulwark himself.
>

> ƒ oTrump walked onto a stage that was already set. The set was painted,

the props were there, he turned out to be considerably effective at using

those props and strutting about that stage, but itƒ Ts not a stage of his

creation,ƒ Jones said. ƒ oHe metaphorically presented himself as a wall

against these changes, and he presented himself as the only thing standing

between his followers and a changing America.ƒ
>
> The economic anxiety that some point to as the genesis of Trumpƒ Ts rise

certainly exists, though it is an angst that crosses racial and
demographic lines and one that predates the pandemic. More than 8 in 10
Americans said costs of housing and everyday expenses are rising faster
than their income, and 4 in 10 are concerned about their ability to pay
for basic goods.
>
> The shares of Black and Hispanic Americans who worry about paying for
basic goods, rent and credit card debt are all higher than the share of
white Americans. But 38 percent of whites said they, too, are worried
about affording basic goods.
>

> At a time when politicians ƒ " and Trump, most prominently ƒ " are

pitting groups against each other, those anxieties manifest in the divides
that are widening today, Jones said.
>

> ƒ oAmericans are feeling the economic crunches and they donƒ Tt just see

it as a result of the pandemic,ƒ Jones said. ƒ oThat doesnƒ Tt help turn

the flame down on these cultural conflicts, it exacerbates them. If people

are feeling like the pie is too small and itƒ Ts a zero-sum game, thatƒ Ts

not a great place for political compromise or finding common ground.ƒ

>
> The Public Religion Research Institute poll was conducted from Sept. 16
to 29 among 2,508 adults over the age of 18. It carried a margin of error
of plus or minus 2.1 percentage points.
>
> https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/579160-stunning-survey-gives-
grim-view-of-flourishing-anti-democratic-opinions
>
>

[RichA]

ed...@post.com wrote

> Those who buy into former President Trump’s lies over the 2020

election and those who watch the far-right channels that amplify his
rhetoric are increasingly embracing anti-democratic opinions and even
contemplating political violence, according to a new poll.
>
> The poll from the nonpartisan Public Religion Research Institute paints
a troubling portrait of a growing segment of the public that is
increasingly unmoored from reality as it embraces conspiracy theories
about child abduction and stolen elections.
>
> It found a deep divide between those who trust right-wing media outlets

and the rest of the nation — and even a divide between those who trust

Fox News and those who trust outlets like One America News Network and
Newsmax.
>
> The poll found about 3 in 10 Americans, 31 percent, believe the 2020
election was stolen from Trump, including two-thirds of Republicans and a
whopping 82 percent of those who trust Fox News more than any other media
outlet.
>
> Among those who trust far-right outlets like One America News Network

and Newsmax, 97 percent say they believe the election — which even
Trump’s own cybersecurity and election security officials agreed was the
safest and most secure ever conducted in the United States — was stolen.

>
> One in 5 Americans believe in the core tenet of the QAnon conspiracy

that “there is a storm coming soon,” while 1 in 6 believe the United

States government is controlled by a group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles
who run a global child sex-trafficking ring.
>
> The same share, 18 percent, say they agree with the statement that

America has gotten so far off track that “true American patriots may
have to resort to violence in order to save our country.”

>
> The poll found 30 percent of Republicans agree that violence might be
warranted, compared with 17 percent of independents and 11 percent of
Democrats. Those who buy into the farthest-right media outlets are even
more likely to contemplate violence; among those people, 40 percent agree.
>

> “I’m not an alarmist by nature, but I’m deeply disturbed by these

numbers. I think that we really have to take them seriously as a threat to

democracy,” said Robert Jones, the founder and chief executive of the

Public Religion Research Institute.
>
> The FBI has reported in recent years that white supremacists pose a
critical threat to the safety and security of the United States.
>
> Jones said the growing share of Republicans and arch-conservatives who

buy into the false and violent rhetoric are transforming one of Americaâ
�™s two major political parties into a party of racial and religious

grievance, one that sees the ominous other encroaching on what it means to
be an American.
>
> Just 29 percent of Republicans say life has changed mostly for the
better since the 1950s, before civil rights movements ushered in new
protections and more rights for minorities, women and the LGBT community.
The share of white evangelical Protestants and white Catholics who say

life was better 70 years ago — when the average American made far less
and lived for a shorter time than they do today — has also grown in
recent years.
>
> “There’s a kind of wistfulness and nostalgia, the power of the
mythical past,” Jones said. “It is an ethno-religious identity, it is

a white Christian America and specifically a white Protestant America that

people are harkening back to.”

>
> John Pitney, a political scientist at Claremont McKenna College and a
former top official at the Republican National Committee during George

H.W. Bush’s presidency, said the data reflected a wholesale reinvention
of a Republican Party that once aspired to Ronald Reagan’s shining city
on a hill.
>
> “Back in the 1980s, Republicans aspired to be the party of hope and

opportunity. Now it is the party of blood and soil. The culture war is
front and center, and for many Republicans, it is close to being a literal

war, not just a metaphorical one,” Pitney said. “Republicans have a
nostalgia for an America that never really existed.”

>
> The poll found Republican voters far more likely than Democrats to argue
that religious or nativist traits are important to being an American: 9 in
10 Republicans, but only two-thirds of Democrats, say speaking English is
important to an American identity. Nearly two-thirds of Republicans said
both being born in America and being a Christian are important to being an
American; more than half of Democrats said those traits were not important
to an American identity.
>
> Eighty percent of Republicans said America is in danger of losing its
culture and identity, and 98 percent of far-right television viewers
agreed; just a third of Democrats and half of independents said the same.
More than half of Republicans, 56 percent, said things have changed so
much in America that they often feel like a stranger in their own country;
just 31 percent of Democrats agreed.
>
> More than half of Americans, including 55 percent of independent voters
and even 9 percent of Republicans, say the Republican Party today has been
taken over by racists, while just 45 percent say the party is trying to
protect America from outside threats.
>
> Forty-four percent said the Democratic Party had been taken over by
socialists, a number that has not risen in recent years.
>

> Trump, who based his first campaign on a pledge to end “American
carnage” and who rose to the pinnacle of the Republican Party at which

he remains today by pledging to build a wall on the Mexican border, is not

entirely responsible for the transformation of Reagan’s GOP, experts

agreed. Instead, some said Trump took advantage of an environment of fear
and angst that already existed, directed it toward the ominous other and
became something of a metaphorical bulwark himself.
>

> “Trump walked onto a stage that was already set. The set was painted,

the props were there, he turned out to be considerably effective at using

those props and strutting about that stage, but it’s not a stage of his
creation,” Jones said. “He metaphorically presented himself as a wall

against these changes, and he presented himself as the only thing standing

between his followers and a changing America.”
>
> The economic anxiety that some point to as the genesis of Trump’s rise

certainly exists, though it is an angst that crosses racial and
demographic lines and one that predates the pandemic. More than 8 in 10
Americans said costs of housing and everyday expenses are rising faster
than their income, and 4 in 10 are concerned about their ability to pay
for basic goods.
>
> The shares of Black and Hispanic Americans who worry about paying for
basic goods, rent and credit card debt are all higher than the share of
white Americans. But 38 percent of whites said they, too, are worried
about affording basic goods.
>

> At a time when politicians — and Trump, most prominently — are

pitting groups against each other, those anxieties manifest in the divides
that are widening today, Jones said.
>

> “Americans are feeling the economic crunches and they don’t just see

it as a result of the pandemic,” Jones said. “That doesn’t help turn

the flame down on these cultural conflicts, it exacerbates them. If people

are feeling like the pie is too small and it’s a zero-sum game, that’s

not a great place for political compromise or finding common ground.”

[RichA]

[Fred J McCall]

In article <su5r0i$16sir$1...@news.freedyn.de>
governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Democrats are fascists.
>

There is only one word to describe Democrats' recently unveiled
strategy for the midterm elections: weird. It's incredibly weird
to falsely label all supporters of Donald Trump as fascists and
terrorists. It's weirder still to believe insulting people will
somehow convince them to vote for you.

President Joe Biden made the strategy abundantly clear last week
when he excoriated all conservatives as terrorists in his
Philadelphia speech, shaking his fists while illuminated in red
as if standing at the gates of hell, yelling at anyone who
disagrees with him that they are evil. "Anyone who calls for the
use of violence and refuses to acknowledge an election has been
won," Biden intoned last week, "that is a threat to democracy."

Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD), a member of the U.S. House's Jan. 6
select committee, echoed Biden's slanderous accusations,
claiming, "Two of the hallmarks of a fascist political party
are, one, they don't accept the results of elections that don't
go their way, and two, they embrace political violence. And I
think that's why President Biden was right to sound the alarm
this week."

This follows White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre's
confirmation that the Biden administration views "MAGA
Republicans" as fascists.

Do Democrats really think they can win the midterm elections
this way? People across the United States are suffering from
inflation, high gas prices, a humanitarian crisis at the
southern border, rampant violent crimes in cities across the
country, critical race theory indoctrination in schools, and
radical gender theories targeting vulnerable children.

But Biden calls half the country fascist terrorists? That is a
wild political miscalculation.

This insane strategy also raises the obvious question: If we
accept Raskin's definition of the two key elements of fascism as
refusing to accept the results of elections that don't go one's
way and embracing political violence, which party in the United
States is the more "fascist" of the two?

Consider that on January 6, 2017, Raskin himself objected to the
certification of the 2016 presidential election. Raskin refused
to accept the outcome, then, of the presidential election that
didn't go his way傭ecause Trump won.

What's more, following her 2016 loss to Donald Trump, Hillary
Clinton herself claimed, "You can run the best campaign, you can
even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen
from you."

Kamala Harris, during an appearance on "The Breakfast Club"
prior to the 2020 election, agreed that Trump was an
illegitimate president. On the campaign trail in 2020耀eemingly
the one time he actually left his basement唯iden likewise
claimed Trump was an illegitimate president.

If we're playing by the rules of the Left, the Democratic Party
has embraced the first element of fascism. The second element,
according to Raskin, is embracing political violence. Um, which
party does that?

Ask denizens of Minneapolis, Louisville, Charlotte, D.C.,
Kenosha, Seattle, Atlanta, Portland, and countless other
neighborhoods and cities destroyed during the summer of 2020.
They were ravaged by Black Lives Matter riots and Antifa thugs
who were rioting in pursuit of their Marxist political agenda.
Recall too that then-vice presidential candidate Kamala Harris
tweeted, at the time, a call to raise funds to bail rioters out
of jail. So if we're playing by the rules of the Left, the
Democratic Party has embraced the second element of fascism, too.

Notwithstanding the hypocrisy, Democrats' midterm strategy
remains clear: Falsely accuse all Republicans of being fascists.
The question is: why?

The answer lies in the details surrounding the FBI's raid of Mar-
a-Lago last month that you won't hear from the mainstream media.
As gleaned from a court filing from 2021 from Judge Tanya
Chutkan, it seems the FBI raid was predicated not upon allegedly
classified documents housed improperly at Mar-a-Lago, but upon
the then-embryonic Jan. 6 select committee's desire to fish for
evidence to bolster its false allegation that Trump coordinated
the Capitol riot.

This is the Democrats' long game. The reason for the Democrats'
seemingly bizarre midterm elections strategy, then, isn't 2022;
it's 2024 and beyond. The Left wants to criminalize Trump, so he
can't run in 2024, by criminalizing his criticism of the
integrity of the 2020 presidential election. The Left can
therefore kill two birds with one stone. If the Left succeeds in
criminalizing Trump's speech, it can criminalize any speech
questioning the integrity of an election. And if leftists
criminalize your speech, they will successfully criminalize any
criticism of their own corruption. If they criminalize your
speech exposing their corruption, they will cement for
themselves power in perpetuity.

By preemptively labeling every conservative a fascist and
terrorist, Democrats are therefore conditioning the American
people for what comes next after they indict Trump following the
midterm elections. It won't be pretty.

Liz Wheeler is host of "The Liz Wheeler Show."

https://www.newsweek.com/what-fascist-opinion-1740873

[Fred J McCall]

In article <smepp7$8cs$7...@news.dns-netz.com>
governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Global warming is bullshit.
>

Outspoken about the "existential" threat posed by climate change
when he was Prince of Wales, King Charles III on Friday seemed
to signal an effective end to his decades-long public advocacy
for lowering greenhouse gas emissions, which are warming global
temperatures.

In his first speech as king, Charles pledged to uphold the
constitutional principles that kept the sovereign, including his
late mother, Queen Elizabeth II, from weighing in on what could
be seen as political matters.

"My life will of course change as I take up my new
responsibilities," Charles said in his videotaped speech. "It
will no longer be possible to give so much of my time and
energies to the charities and issues for which I cared so
deeply, but I know this important work will go on in the trusted
hands of others."

For more than 40 years, Charles had championed environmental
causes, including the need to transition the global economy off
of fossil fuels so as to avert a climate catastrophe. In
November, at the start of COP 26, the United Nations climate
change conference in Glasgow, Scotland, Charles said climate
change was an "existential threat to the extent that we have to
put ourselves on what might be called a war-like footing" and
called on world governments to begin "radically transforming our
current fossil fuel based economy to one that is genuinely
renewable and sustainable."

Three months later, however, Russia launched its own war on
Ukraine, disrupting oil and gas supplies for Europe and the U.K.
in the process and throwing the British government's pledge of
reaching net zero greenhouse-gas emissions by 2050 into doubt.

With Russia cutting off deliveries of natural gas, the continent
is bracing for an energy crisis that will send energy prices
skyrocketing during the cold winter months and cause governments
to resume oil exploration and using coal at a time when climate
scientists have warned that mankind needs to immediately
transition to renewable sources of energy or face dire
consequences such as those witnessed this summer in places like
Pakistan, the Horn of Africa, Europe and the American West.

On Thursday, newly appointed Prime Minister Liz Truss announced
measures to try to blunt the impact of skyrocketing energy
prices over the coming months, including lifting a ban on
hydraulic fracking and green-lighting new oil and gas drilling
in the North Sea. She has also appointed Jacob Rees-Mogg, who
environmental activists call a climate science denier, to
oversee the country's energy sector.

In 2020, Charles addressed the World Economic Forum, calling for
"a shift in our economic model that places nature and the
world's transition to net zero at the heart of how we operate."

Needless to say, a continued reliance on oil was not exactly
what Charles had in mind. The king, being a symbolic figure who
is not elected, has no control over the government's policies,
however.

Truss also named Ranil Jayawardena, who has spoken out against
the installation of solar farms on agricultural land, as
environment secretary.

Over the years, Charles has been a champion of solar power,
winning approval in 2021 to install panels atop London's
Clarence House, his former residence, and praising India's
expansion of solar capacity.

Charles had delivered countless speeches on addressing climate
change, written books on the topic and had made the issue
central to his role as Prince of Wales. That decision also
earned him ample criticism from those who saw his activism as
overstepping the bounds of the monarchy.

In his Friday speech, the new king did not mention the words
"climate change," and that, in and of itself, spoke volumes.

https://news.yahoo.com/king-charles-iii-appears-to-signal-an-end-
to-climate-change-activism-174330601.html

[Shamus MacGonagal]

In article <som4pa$c0f$3...@news.dns-netz.com>
kensi <kkensi...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>
> Racial and economic inequality have always come with environmental
> inequality.

Bullshit.

[Bill Steele]

In article <soimcg$og$4...@news.dns-netz.com>
David Hartung <kicking....@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Joe is going to get fucked because Schumer is a liar and untrustworthy.
>

Schumer agreed to press for legislation allowing more drilling
permits to get Manchin's vote for a mega-spending bill

Sen. Joe Manchin's deal with Senate Majority Leader Chuck
Schumer for an oil and gas permitting bill in exchange for the
West Virginia senator's support for the White House's $739
billion climate change spending and tax hike, signed into law
last week by President Biden, is in jeopardy, as progressives
say they are not bound by any agreement and vow to oppose the
legislation.

Critics say that Manchin gave up leverage to get the permitting
bill through the House by helping Democrats first pass the
Inflation Reduction Act through a party-line process known as
budget reconciliation.

"Manchin was so eager to side with President Biden that he
shoved spending down America’s throat based on the falsehood
that liberals would allow more domestic oil pipelines," Rep.
Alex Mooney, R-W.Va., told Fox News Digital. "They won't."

Mooney has been pegged as a likely challenger to Manchin's re-
election in 2024.

In a statement to Fox News Digital, a spokesperson for Manchin's
office expressed confidence that the permitting bill would pass.

"Senator Manchin has always had West Virginia’s best interest in
mind and the Inflation Reduction Act delivers for West
Virginians and Americans by lowering prescription drug and
healthcare costs, addressing high energy prices by increasing
domestic energy production and permanently securing black lung
benefits," they said. "Senator Manchin looks forward to
following this momentum by passing comprehensive permitting
reform next month."

Democrats began working on the reconciliation bill shortly after
Biden took office. Initially named Build Back Better, the
legislation was proposed as an ambitious overhaul of the
nation's economy and climate infrastructure.

That iteration of the bill died within the 50-50 Senate amid
Manchin's fears it would exacerbate inflation. The West Virginia
Democrat reversed course this year after getting sufficient
concessions from Schumer and whittling the bill down from its
initial $3.5 trillion price tag.

As part of the deal, Manchin also received a commitment from
Schumer to pass legislation by the end of September streamlining
the permit approval process to drill for oil and gas.

The permitting bill, which has yet to be made public, would set
timelines by which environmental agencies must conduct reviews
for proposed projects. It would also require the federal
government to hold more leasing auctions for the right to drill
on federal land.

Manchin's biggest prize in the deal, however, is provisions of
the expected bill that would catalyze approval of a natural gas
pipeline running for more than 300 miles through Virginia and
West Virginia. The $6.6 billion Mountain Valley Pipeline was
started in 2014 and is nearly 90% complete, but has stalled in
recent months among environmental lawsuits.

"The Mountain Valley Pipeline is the only project in the entire
country that can bring 2 billion cubic feet of natural gas per
day onto the market in just six months," Manchin said earlier
this month when news of the deal first broke. "Completing this
pipeline will increase supply, strengthen American energy
security and bring down gas prices."

Progressive House Democrats disagree, however. They say the
permitting bill desired by Manchin threatens to undercut any
climate benefit derived from the Inflation Reduction Act.

"We will be united in defeating the separate Manchin ‘permitting
reforms’ that will accelerate climate change and pollute Black,
brown, Indigenous and low-income communities," said Rep. Rashida
Tlaib, D-Mich. "Manchin went back on his word to get [Build Back
Better] done, and we owe him nothing now."

Tlaib and others from the 98-member Congressional Progressive
Caucus are pledging to vote against the permitting bill if it
comes up for a vote in the House. The opposition could be costly
given that Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., can only lose four
Democrats on any bill before having to rely on the GOP.

Progressives are also warning House Democratic leaders against
trying to slip the permitting bill into a bigger legislative
package. They say if the measure comes to the House floor it
should be standalone.

Far-left lawmakers are not the only ones taking issue with the
permitting bill. Some Senate Republicans say their votes are not
guaranteed, especially after Manchin sided with fellow Democrats
to advance Biden's tax and climate agenda.

"If you think you're going to get 60 votes to get the sweeteners
that can't be done in reconciliation, you need to think long and
hard about what you're doing," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

Late last month, the nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation
(JCT) revealed in an analysis that the Inflation Reduction Act
would increase taxes by billions of dollars, including on middle-
class earners.

Since the permitting bill was left out of the larger
reconciliation package, it will need at least 60 votes to pass
the Senate. The tenuous position Manchin finds himself in has
GOP critics questioning his image as a skilled dealmaker.

"Joe Manchin sold out West Virginia for a signing pen from
President Biden," said Mooney. "He single-handedly restarted the
Biden administration’s inflation-causing spending binge."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/joe-manchins-dealmaking-prowess-
questioned-after-house-democrats-snub-oil-permitting-bill

[Shaun E. McAlmont]

In article <snuems$r12$3...@news.dns-netz.com>
Rudy Canoza <r...@cap.con> wrote:
>
> I wear Liz Cheney dresses when I dust my Trump pictures.
>

Liz Cheney has made some enemies for her role in the Jan. 6
committee—and this time, it’s coming from the committee members
themselves. As the group sets to wrap in six weeks, some panel
members reportedly feel frustrated by Cheney’s influence and her
singular focus on former president Donald Trump. Fifteen
staffers told The Washington Post they were frustrated to learn
a draft report would focus almost solely on Trump, leaving
reports on law enforcement and the intelligence community’s
failures on the cutting-room floor. “We were told this would be
an important fact-finding investigation that would inform the
public,” one former committee staffer said. “But when [the
committee] became a Cheney 2024 campaign, many of us became
discouraged.” Cheney has doubled down on her Trump laser focus,
with her spokesperson sending a statement to the Post saying
some staff submitted “subpar material” that “reflects long-held
liberal biases.” “She won’t sign onto any ‘narrative’ that
suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and
women in law enforcement, or suggests every American who
believes God has blessed America is a white supremacist,” her
spokesperson said.

<https://www.thedailybeast.com/january-6-committee-staffers-feel-
liz-cheney-has-hijacked-panel-with-donald-trump-obsession-report-
says>

[howard]

In article <ssq0ca$ltma$1...@news.freedyn.de>
Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> On Fri, 9 Sep 2022 18:55:26 -0000 (UTC), bob user
> <bob...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >Too Much Wind
> >Wind mill crippled when support tower fails during high winds at Florida
> >Power & light (FPL Energy) owned wind farm in North Palm Springs,
> >California.
>
> I guess you've never driven around Altamont Pass.
> https://goo.gl/maps/UZv9NLNSwoaMy4mX9
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> There are almost 5,000 windmills out there.

Yah but all the windmills of California still can't outperform
the windbags in Sacramento.

[Bill Steele]

In article <so1jsm$du4$9...@news.dns-netz.com>
David Hartung <kicking....@Hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Joe is going to get fucked.
>

Democrats say Manchin's bill will force them to choose between
more pollution or government shutdown

Nearly a third of House Democrats warned Speaker Nancy Pelosi on
Friday against tying this month's must-pass government funding
bill to legislation spurring oil and gas drilling that is
desired by Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va.

Seventy-one House Democrats penned a letter to Pelosi, D-Calif.,
warning that the bill's inclusion will force them to seriously
consider voting against the short-term government funding
measure, known as a continuing resolution.

"In the face of the existential threats like climate change and
MAGA extremism, House and Senate leadership has a greater
responsibility than ever to avoid risking a government shutdown
by jamming divisive policy riders into a must-pass continuing
resolution," said House Natural Resources Committee Chairman
Raúl Grijalva, an Arizona Democrat who spearheaded the letter.
"Permitting reform hurts already-overburdened communities, puts
polluters on an even faster track, and divides the caucus."

Signing on to the letter was a wide cross-section of the House
Democratic Conference.

Signatories included not just progressive firebrands, like
Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, but also
leadership allies. The latter included Reps. Joe Neguse of
Colorado and Debbie Dingell of Michigan, whom Pelosi has tasked
with leading the House Democratic Policy and Communications
Committee.

Neither Manchin's nor Pelosi's offices returned requests for
comment.

Earlier this year, Manchin struck a deal with Senate Majority
Leader Chuck Schumer to pass legislation streamlining the permit
approval process to drill for oil and gas by the end of
September. In exchange for the commitment, Manchin agreed to
back the White House's $739 billion climate change and tax hike
package.

Schumer, D-N.Y., confirmed earlier this week that he would
attach the permitting legislation to the government funding
bill, which must pass by Sept. 30 or risk a shutdown.

"Our intention is to add it to the [continuing resolution],
absolutely," said Schumer.

House Democrats say the decision is fraught with risk, however.

"Such a move would force Members to choose between protecting
[environmental justice] communities from further pollution or
funding the government," the lawmakers wrote in their letter.

Progressive Democrats have long argued that Manchin's side deal
was with Schumer and not with them.

"We will be united in defeating the separate Manchin ‘permitting
reforms’ that will accelerate climate change and pollute Black,
brown, Indigenous and low-income communities," said Rep. Rashida
Tlaib, D-Mich. "Manchin went back on his word to get [Build Back
Better] done, and we owe him nothing now."

The permitting bill, which has yet to be made public, would set
timelines by which environmental agencies must conduct reviews
for proposed projects. It would also require the federal
government to hold more leasing auctions for the right to drill
on federal land.

Manchin's biggest prize, however, is provisions of the expected

bill that would catalyze approval of a natural gas pipeline
running for more than 300 miles through Virginia and West
Virginia. The $6.6 billion Mountain Valley Pipeline was started
in 2014 and is nearly 90% complete, but has stalled in recent
months among environmental lawsuits.

"The Mountain Valley Pipeline is the only project in the entire
country that can bring 2 billion cubic feet of natural gas per

day onto the market in just six months," Manchin said in August

when news of the deal first broke.

The opposition by House Democrats to the oil and gas permitting
bill has put the pipeline at risk. Manchin's GOP critics say the
senator gave up any leverage to get the permitting bill through
when he agreed to vote on the $739 billion climate change and
tax package first.

"Joe Manchin sold out West Virginia for a signing pen from

President Biden," said Rep. Alex Mooney, R-W.Va. "He single-

handedly restarted the Biden administration’s inflation-causing
spending binge."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/71-house-democrats-warn-pelosi-
against-tying-manchins-permitting-deal-government-funding-bill